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>> bret: officially a wrap in south korea, tomorrow we are live in beijing, china. two live shows there. if you want to see the dmz piece we did, just posted it online. full coverage of the elections here on fox news channel, that's it for this special report, fair, balanced and unafraid. here's martha with the rest of the day's coverage. >> martha: amazing show tonight, thank you so much. we pick up "the story" from here. breaking tonight, it is 7:00 p.m. in virginia, where the polls have just closed in a closely watched a gubernatorial race republican ed gillespie and democrat ralph northam. too early at this stage, as we like to say on election night, to predict a winner. fox news voter analysis, which is great stuff that we have put together for you tonight, shows a very close race right now. also in new jersey, democrat phil murphy and republican kim, their race has developed essentially into a referendum on governor chris christie, one of
the most unpopular governors in the united states of america. that's an interesting distinction. we're keeping our eyes on new york city where bill de blasio is hoping for another term as he tries to be mayor once again of the nation's largest in america. here's how that shaped up, but we begin with a big story tonight in virginia. fox's kristin fisher live at north of headquarters, with the first to peter, who is at gillespie headquarters in richmond, virginia. what's the good word over there, peter? >> martha, at the big reason that the gillespie campaign has been getting so much national attention is because he was a republican trying to win without trump, but tonight, a presidential robo call is spreading throughout the commonwealth for the president's voice is heard telling voters that ed gillespie will help make america great again. polls that showed the gillespie is in second place, but closing in on the lead lately and staffers i have spoken to today
say they think his candidacy actually got a boost when the northam supporting outside group, the latina victory fund, released an ad showing a gillespie supporter, a fictional supporter, trying to run over minority children with a pickup truck. however, this new fox news voter analysis finds that virginians believe gillespie made the most unfair attacks throughout the course of the campaign, more than the democrat northam. this analysis also finds the voters today prefer gillespie on the economy, but two-thirds of virginians say they think virginia's economy right now is excellent or good, which is a contrast to what president trump tweeted today, that they need to move away from democrats because the economy has been terrible under democratic rule. now for a look at the democratic candidates headquarters tonight. our colleague kristin fisher. >> hey peter. it for a candidate who came into this race the clear favorite, ralph northam is ending it uncomfortably close in the
polls. in the closing days of this campaign he has been hit on the right by his component and by president trump for being weak on crime. he has also been hit in the far left flanks of his own party reversing decisions -- reversing his stance on things like sanctuary cities and confederate statues. he's also been accused by some democrats of running a rather lackluster campaign. in fact many of them have compared it to hillary clinton's campaign, as being too establishment, lacking enthusiasm, playing it too safe. and for just being perhaps a bit too old-fashioned for the trump era. but make no mistake, there is a lot on northam side tonight. if this is the state that hillary clinton won by five points, almost exactly one year ago today. and president trump remains deeply unpopular here in northern virginia, which is really just about a quick 20 minute drive away from washington, d.c. this is the only southern state
that president trump lost, so throughout the course of this campaign, northam has been trying to tie his opponent to president trump's policies. he is expected to win, or he was at least in the beginning of this race, he is favored to win. the current outgoing democratic governor says tonight that he believes he will win, but this race is very close tonight, and there's a lot of nerves here tonight. >> martha: no doubt, thank you very much kristin and peter, who was over at gillespie headquarters. joining me now, karl rove, former deputy chief of staff to george w. bush, also fox news contributor. chris stirewalt is in the house, fox news politic editor. great to have both of you here. tell everybody at home what they need to watch in virginia tonight. >> basically virginia is two states. which of the best part and put in the west virginia, but what we left behind, you have northern virginia, which is basically a small, very affluent northeastern corridor state.
if donald trump lost it by 20 points or something, and then you have the rest of virginia, which is about, i don't know, two-thirds of the vote in the state. a southern state that if you took out northern virginia, donald trump would have won by about a dozen points. now you have a race between the voters of these two states, who can get the turnout going tonight? so we will be looking at that, counties in the far outskirts, those of the swing counties. and we will also be looking for can republicans turn out and less populous world counties like they did for donald trump. >> martha: what you think about at gillespie strategy so far in this race? he distance himself from the president in the early going and as late as today, make america great phone calls were going ou out. >> i'm not sure i would say he distanced himself, he tried to establish himself as a person with a vision and a plan for the future of virginia. he has issued 21 position
papers, he has highlighted those with events. he stopped in great detail about how we will cut taxes, grow the economy, reform state government, innovate. it has been an amazing campaign of substance and that was to establish himself earlier this year as a candidate worthy of being the governor of virginia. i would say he spent more time on that than just simply trying to either glom on to the coattails of trump in places where he's popular, or to do what ralph northam did, it was basically make most of his campaign about how he was going to oppose donald trump in all things, whether they affected virginia or not. >> martha: we have these new fox news voter analysis numbers that we are kind of boring over here. let's put up one about the most important issue facing the state, health care. this could be a national poll. what we see when you look at these numbers nationally, health care and then the economy. you never know, chris, with health care, whether people want to hang onto obamacare, or whether they are really upset
with republicans for not overthrowing it. >> i think we have a pretty good sign in virginia with other people were most concerned about health care are northern voters, they will trend democrat in that state. that interest breakdown is why i like our new research tool so much. that breakdown is reflective -- this is why we care about virginia so much tonight. it is important, yes, but we care about it so much because it looks a lot like america. a lot of the same demographic and ideological and partisan splits that we see in the country, rich and poor, rural and urban, and all that stuff. i think that a lot of what you are seeing in america. >> martha: obviously president trump lost in virginia by about five points. this will be a huge upset if at gillespie is able to pull this off tonight, right? >> absolutely. i'm not going to just look at counties, i think chris had some good counties there. i will be looking at the total turnout. in a presidential election, 70% of the registered voters turned out. in an off your gubernatorial
election, 40 percent do. the variation is important to look at. we also need to look at the growing part of the state. fairfax county, northern virginia, 273,000 votes in '09. 306,000. it be interesting to see how much larger it is this year to grow in part of the state. then i will be looking at margins. it's not just whether they won or lose them. first of all, are they poaching? at gillespie will try to get more votes than a republican normally gets in northern virginia. northam is trying to get more votes in that virginia beach area where he is a originally from and where he has a military background. then we will see running up the totals. at gillespie will do this particularly in southwest virginia. if you look down at the coal country, the area south of west virginia, it was won by mitt romney, but at gillespie won the senate bid in 2014 but he didn't get the margins that romney did, and then trump came
and won that county overwhelmingly. the question is, is at gillespie going to be able to get trump-like margins in the southwest part of the state? >> martha: very interesting. with that to go, but just pop up the monument number. virginia has been a hotbed for this issue. the robert e. lee statues and thomas jefferson stay up, 63%, take them down, 31%. we will see if that has any meaning. >> that's how you get a guy from new jersey to fall in love with his confederate heritage. at gillespie didn't know which side of the blue or gray he really felt until i guess he was running for governor. >> martha: we seen that happen with the yankees won hillary clinton comes to new york. thanks a lot, good to see you tonight, thank you very much. we will be watching the race throughout the course of the whole hour and we will keep you posted on every development where that is concerned. coming up next cover this. >> when you say that
hillary clinton, barack obama and former dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz stripped the party to a shell for their own purposes, what does that say? >> martha: donna brazile throwing new bombs today at debbie wasserman schultz for living the high life off of democrat donors dimes, and that is not all. stick around, former congressman jason chaffetz and zach are here. plus, why did the head of fusion gps, paid by the democrats at this moment in time, meet with the russian lawyer directly before and after she sat down with donald trump jr.? the fishy timing, and the latest on the carter page story as well. former trump campaign manager cory levin turowski weighs in on that. and the texas killer escaped mental hospital. why was this criminal free to kill? >> it should have been reported and put in the database, and that's why we have launched this complete full-scale review of
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new jersey, and also new york. as we get the numbers rolling we will put them up on the bottom of the screen, and we will keep you posted on that throughout the course of the "the story" tonight. comes at a critical time for the democratic party, which appears to be having some issues, shall we say, in the wake of the bombshell new book by former dnc chair donna brazile, who was gone after everybody from president obama, debbie wasserman saltz, ellery clinton over the course of all of this. listen to this this morning. >> i read the book, that you were upset with robbie what, you also some very angry with hillary clinton. the hacking was an issue. >> my emotions or my emotions, but there's no question that i was very upset at the time. i'm chair of the party, i have a lot of skin in the game. i don't report to the democratic establishment, i report to the voters. >> martha: chief national correspondent ed henry live at the white house tonight with the back story. >> great to see you, some top aides to hillary clinton are now lashing out at donna brazile, but she is bowing she will not
be silenced, so the hits keep on coming for the democratic party. and of the most shocking revelations in this new book is that brazile charges that quentin's staff was dominated by a small number of male aides who she claims exhibited sexist behavior to her. shocking, because you will never clinton spent so much time in public talking about inclusion and shattering the ultimate glass ceiling, while charging that then-candidate donald trump mistreated women. but brazile writes that in private, top clinton officials, like the campaign managers behave differently. nodded when she talks but then not actually listening to her are following up on what they agreed upon. it got so ugly that in one instance, she blurted let's just put our manhood out on the table and see who has the bigger one because i know that mine is bigger than all of yours. remember, we already learned brazile's account what happened after the ten fainted the 9/11 memorial event, she briefly considered changing the ticket. that led dozens of clinton aides
to sign an open letter to brazile charging she was buying into russian propaganda about quentin's health. brazile scoffs at all of that, so she just wanted basic respect from clinton and her team while wishes that there was not so much turmoil in places like virginia and new jersey ahead of these gubernatorial races. >> i also one of the candidate in her campaign to respect the democratic national committee. i was an officer of the dnc and i felt that my job was to protect the democratic national committee, which meant all of the candidates, not just the presidential, but the down ballot candidates as well. >> i'm sure she was under a lot of pressure from her publisher to put this book out right on the selection week when we have critical elections happening around the country. i wish he just put her foot down and said no. >> brazile also unloading at her predecessor, debbie wasserman schultz for carving out purse that caps are "fat and happy while the party was broke."
a body woman to lead her around, and a giant suv with a driver. brazile says that schultz, clinton and then president obama all had titanic egos who stripped the dnc down for their own purposes, leaving the party, and her suggestion, in shambles. >> martha: thank you very much, ed henry at the white house. here now with more, jason chaffetz, former house oversight chairman. now a fox news contributor. norma dnc advisor who also worked on the clinton campaign. let me go to you first get your reaction to all of this, zach. >> i think that it is really unfortunate that it's coming -- that this book is being put out right before the election. i was one of the clinton campaign staffers that wrote a letter that talked about how this is not the campaign that we recognize. most anything that is displayed in the book, i think it is just generally pretty unfortunate. there are large swaths of the
book that have been debunked. >> martha: what you think your motivation is, why would she lie in her book? >> i can't speak to her motivations. donna brazile is a friend, and i like her very much, but i do think that this is incredibly unfortunate timing and she chose to do this especially right before the election. >> martha: you have no guess as to why -- you are saying she's not telling the truth. >> i'm saying that i think it made for a good book. >> martha: she was disrespected by men on the campaign, she said that they would look at her and not but not listen to her. she was so obsessed with his data. they blew it, they blew the campaign so she is saying wake up because nobody listen to me and i knew what we should have been doing. >> i will certainly not diminish or experience on the campaign. what i can say is, that is certainly not the campaign that i recognize and i think it is a little -- i think it is unfortunate that this is what
some democrats are talking about going into the election. >> martha: jason. >> it is pretty stunning, the gravity of it. she was very revered, she had decades with the democratic party and revered enough to make her the chairman of the party. >> martha: she came in a pretty tough time. >> at a very difficult time. i think the most serious allegation is the joint fund-raising agreement, that may have been actually money laundering. i think one of her frustrations is she couldn't bring in impartial staff. clinton had signed this document basically saying i will help you raise money but you have to hire my people. there are reasons that there are limits. you can't do that, that's called money laundering and i think there's a real legal liability. >> martha: zach is shaking his head, why is that? >> those agreements are incredibly common. >> martha: after the nominee is picked. >> donald trump had one before he was the nominee. >> you can't do that and putting your own people.
>> that has nothing to do with the actual agreement. there was a memorandum of understanding. wow that stated, all activities performed under the agreement, the general election and at the democratic primaries. this is an agreement that was extended to the bernie sanders campaign, they said that if they raise money into the dnc that they could have a say in how that money was spent. they decided not to do that, but they didn't decide to complain about it afterwards. >> martha: i want to get your thoughts on this other issue, the comey draft statement. back on may 2nd 2016, he drafted a statement in the investigation of hillary clinton saying that there was evidence to support a conclusion that secretary clinton and others used the private email server in a manner that was grossly negligent with respect to the handling of classified material. he then came out on july 5th and used this phrase, watch. >> there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.
>> martha: why did grossly negligent become extremely careless, and what difference does it make? >> within the statute, you don't have to prove intent, but that's where the fbi director continue to go, we could improve the intent. within the statute is gross negligence. that begs the other question, if that was in the original statement, why did you take it out, and the other huge question i have is, why were you crafting a statement weeks before you've even interviewed what ended up being nearly 16 people including the primary suspect herself, hillary clinton? if a judge had started to write his opinion before the trial was over, wouldn't we all look suspiciously at that as a one of the world are you doing? >> martha: i will give zach one very quick -- >> i think you have to pick your attack on james comey. first it was that he was too hard of hillary clinton needs to be fired, now it was that he was too easy on her. you have to pick one of your nonsense attack lines. >> there is no democrat who would vote reconfirm jim call me.
>> martha: let me just say this, what we are talking about is very specific arrow, and it is a statute language, grossly negligent so it is a very legitimate question to say why would that language be removed from the statement several months later, it's a perfectly legitimate question to ask of the attorney general. of the head of the fbi. >> it is simply an attempt to undermine the fbi at a time when they are bringing down indictments. >> martha: just look at the language and a question why. >> it's a hypocritical. given the way that the people were attacking james comey. >> martha: i don't know why anybody would be afraid to ask questions about why the fbi director would change his language on that. a perfectly legitimate question. thank you, good to see you both. up next, more evidence on clinton collusion. the russian lawyer at the center of the secret trump tower meeting spent time or before the donald trump jr. meeting with the man on the left, the head of fusion gps, then she met with donald trump jr. and she met up with clinton again right after
that. former trumped campaign aide says that one of the president's closest advisors approved his controversial trip to russia. former trumped campaign manager corey lewandowski, answers to that in a moment. but president trump heading to china tonight for the most crucial leg of the asia trip. general jack keane joins us live with his message that he says should be sent. ♪ you nervous? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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>> martha: breaking tonight, explosive new developments involving the russian lawyer at the center of the controversial june 2016 trumped our meeting with donald trump jr. fox news confirming that the russian lawyer met with the fusion gps cofounder glenn simpson before and after that meeting. simpson's firm is behind the anti-trumped dossier, which the clinton campaign and the dnc paid for. this comes as we are getting a closer look at the former trumped campaign aide carter pages testimony as well before the house intel committee. page claims that corey lewandowski knew about a trip that he was taking to russia. here's his testimony with congressman trey gowdy. i'm quoting here from the
transcript. if you weren't going to moscow in 2016, would you tell, why did you tell them and what did you tell them? page: i had mentioned to them that i had received this invitation and i just wanted to let you know. and how do they respond? he said if you would like to go on your own not affiliated with the campaign, that's fine. but what judge jeanine asked about carter page back in march, he said this. >> i've never met carter page. to the best of my knowledge, the president of the united states has never met him. he had no formal role in the campaign. >> martha: cares corey lewandowski, former campaign manager for donald trump. welcome, good to have you on "the story" tonight. thanks for being here. how do you reconcile those two things? >> there is no reconciliation necessary because they are exactly the same things i told judge jeanine, which will then telling you, to the best of my recollection, i don't know carter page.
carter page never had a donald trump.com email address. no formal role in the campaign that i'm aware of. was never compensated by the campaign, and what a low level volunteer decides that they want to take a trip overseas and doesn't report to me or work for the organization, what jurisdiction but i potentially have of telling him or her they can or could not travel overseas? all it was clear about was if you are going to travel, please do not pretend to be part of the campaign and say that you are part of the campaign because you are not. >> martha: so you say you never met him, but you do remember that exchange from you to remember him sending an email that said i'm going to take this trip and you said fine, just out of part of the campaign, is that right? you remember that? >> you have to remember in the context of the campaign world, my memory has been refreshed, but to be clear, what i understand in what i recall, that email was sent on june 19th 2016, about 18 months ago, and it also happened to be father's day on a sunday, it also happened to be the date
prior to may be terminated from the campaign. with all due respect, there were many other things on my mind that day other than trying to understand why volunteer was telling me he may or may not be traveling outside the country. >> martha: but in retrospect, you say you do remember, you recall that, getting that from him? >> what i recall is seeing that email, it has been brought back to my attention, i didn't recall it at the time. >> martha: in terms of papadopolous, who is now cooperating with the feds, he sent half a dozen requests to member of the trump team saying that he was trying to arrange meetings with officials in russia, that putin wants to host the trump team when the time is right. he said april of 2016. he forwarded a note from a russian official, putin would like to meet with trump. manafort is on record as saying we need somebody to communicate that donald trump is not going to make the strips. what do you remember about interactions with papadopolous? >> again, as the campaign
manager, i wouldn't have had much interaction with george papadopoulos, it's possible i met him in passing somewhere. it's possible he sent me a series of emails and from what we now have seen from his email exchange, it wasn't just about russia, but he was asking to meet with a series of people, including the greeks and the italian-americans and a number of other people, and this is a person who seemed to fancy himself as a person who had much more authority in the campaign than he ever had other than being part of what seems to be one time he participated in a 30 minute discussion. >> martha: so what do you think about the fact that he is now working with them, and that he could have been an informant for several months after he was arrested back in october? does this concern you? are they going to find that there's any connection between anyone in the trump campaign and him trying to set up any kind of nefarious meeting, or even an dumb meeting on his part that he was sucked into because heat they to use them? >> i don't know, but from what
has been reported, if he was lying to the fbi, and that's why he did a plea deal, because he was lying to the fbi for not being truthful, then he should suffer the consequences of that. i am very certain that there is no relationship between me as the campaign manager in donald trump as the candidate and george papadopoulos that would have incorporated collusion, cooperation or coordination with russia in any way, shape, or form to the best of my knowledge. if he was lying to the fbi, which is a crime, that he should be accountable for those lies. >> martha: understood, i want to ask you about the other issue which i mentioned in the introduction, it's been revealed that glenn simpson, the founder of fusion gps, was paid by multiple campaigns over the course of this, but the democrats at this point in the process, that he saw the russian lawyer who very much wanted to secure the meeting with donald trump jr., we know now it was to talk about repealing a sanction, that he met with her before hand and after that
meeting. what you make of that? >> what i make of it is if you listen to dianne feinstein, the senator from california, she said as her professional opinion as the ranking member in the intelligence committee, she has seen no collusion or cooperation between the trump campaign in russia, but we can't say the same about the clinton campaign. the clinton campaign has not publicly admitted that they spent millions of dollars to a spy overseas, and am i six former agent to provide information and money to russia to provide this dossier. the dnc as part of it, seems that she might have had some cooperation between fusion gps. there are grave concerns about the clinton campaign and their ability to funnel money to a spy from great britain so they can go and get information from russia, which included fusion gps, which she seems to have been meeting with now. >> martha: a lot more documents from fusion gps, they are stonewalling them on the request and we will stay on top of it. very interesting element of this whole story.
thank you very much, good to see you tonight. >> thank you. >> martha: getting some early numbers in virginia and i should stress that they are very early numbers. you can see 10% of the vote is in, and that's how it looks right now, ed gillespie at 51%, ralph northam at 44%. there are many counties that have not come in, so we will continue to keep a close eye on these as they come across, and we will keep you posted as we got more. coming up next. >> we will be tomorrow, china, the president has been very helpful. we will find out how helpful soon. >> martha: president trump sounding optimistic as he travels to china tonight with hopes of getting the president on board to try to stop the nuclear threat from north korea. that is a very tall order, a delicate matter in so many ways. who better than general jack keane to tell us what he thinks about this tonight? ♪
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>> martha: brand-new video coming in from the president's trip in south korea. we will take her to that in just a moment, but look at these numbers first of all. 19% of the vote is in and as you can tell it's tightening up quite a bit. like a very tight race, 49% to 50% with ed gillespie just slightly ahead. 19% of that vote in. we will get some analysis on that and look at the counties, what the importance is of what has been recorded and what is still out there so we can give you a better sense of where this thing looks like it may be headed, and we will do that in just a moment. in the meantime, new video, as i said, in from south korea, where the president attempted to travel to the demilitarized zone between north and south korea. use our bret baier there earlier with a fascinating package about what it is like to be right on that border, but we are told that bad weather moved in, and they turned the motorcade
around. the president had said earlier that -- the white house rather that they weren't going to do that trip, which a lot of presidents do make because they want to spend time with the troops. we will see what came of that, but tonight as you know he is headed to china where he will begin his meetings with the president. general jack keane, chairman -- a fox news military analyst. what do you think about the dmz? >> i can understand. i've always thought it's overrated. the north koreans take huge advantage of the president visiting the dmz. >> martha: you mean the president going there? >> i thought the decision to go see the troops was a better decision and not give the north koreans a photo op. this pressure around the president, you got to go there and see this, i've been there a few times myself. it doesn't measure up. >> martha: not a big deal. let's talk about the more important substance of the trip to china.
he has had a good relationship so far with president xi i'm a cede some movement from china that we didn't expect to see, but it's a long way to go. >> this is the centerpiece trip. as much as you will go to to countries after that, this is really with the far east trip is all about. this is the most important bilateral relationship the united states is going to have in the 21st century, and president xi has more power and more ambition, or strategic ambition to be the preeminent global power in the world and replace the united states. he wants to dominate asia and the pacific for sure. he's coming close to it already. that's why the president is reassuring our allies we are back, we are in the game. we will stand by you. he's got this incredibly delicate situation. he needs his help on north korea. he will tell them you are not doing enough, i need it faster, i need more. at the same time, it's going to
try to talk to them about chinese aggression trampling all over our allies in the pacific and also our own interest, and he will talk about unfair trade balances, the fact that the u.s. companies can't compete so well inside of china. he's got to talk to them about cyber espionage, ripping off our intellectual property so much in united states. how he works that is really going to be statesmanship. >> martha: the art of the deal, right? >> that is a tough deal. he needs his help, but he's got to put the other things on the table for xi will walk out of there with a victory. >> martha: it works both ways, china meets us economically, and they also don't really want a lot of trouble from north korea. they don't want to deal with refugees pouring across their border. >> or a war. >> martha: or a war. there are common things that they both want, but i do find the most fascinating part of what you just said is his desire for world dominance.
putin has the same desire. it got president trump and president xi and vladimir putin all fighting, and they are all strong characters, for the future of the world. >> we return to an era of big power competition, you are not old enough to realize that, but i am. we are there and we are right in the middle of it. putin can't get to world domination because he doesn't have an economy to support them, but china can. we are on a collision course. >> martha: general jack keane, we will be along for the ride with you by our side. thank you very much, good to see you. coming up tonight, we will get you numbers on the race in virginia as we continue to watch these come in, 19%, 49-50. very tight in the very early going, and we will get some analysis on these numbers. chris stirewalt will tell us what's counties are in, we will see what these numbers really mean in just a moment. ♪ ressure
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27% of the vote is a man chris stirewalt is back on deck with us. mollie hemingway is also joining us now, senior editor of the federalist. chris, let me go to you first, what do these numbers say? >> it is still quite early. we are seeing signs of quite a lot of turn out, i like a lot of turnout. >> martha: who was that good for? >> it depends on where it is, and we are seeing a ton of turnout in places like northern virginia and charlottesville, which will be good for northam, but at the same time, places in rural virginia are keeping pace, at least for 2013 levels that they had. people forget about this in 2013, this is actually true. in 2013 when i had the last rac race, the candidate written off by many that within two points. virginia likes close races, and we will keep watching this. >> martha: molly, what do you think? >> this commonwealth is difficult to poll, but it does seem like northam was heading into this with a solid lead. this is a blue state, it seems to get bluer every year, so we really should be able to pull this off.
there were so many things about this race that made it seem -- ed gillespie is a strong candidate. he almost won when he ran last time a few years ago for the senate. he's a little bit more favorable than most republicans are in northern virginia, which is lobbyist-heavy because ed gillespie himself is from that part of the economic sector. then of course ralph northam -- [laughter] >> martha: the economic sector. you mean the huge slot that drives real estate through the roof in the washington, d.c., area? >> having just purchased a house, i can assure you that's exactly what i mean. northam coordinated on that bore he basically accused all republican voters of running on immigrant children and that seemed to spark some interest. i heard many made mike neighbor say they would crawl over broken glass to vote against him after that add ran. i think northam should win but i do think it will be close. >> martha: i think we have a poll on what people thought of that ad, just to remind of her buddy, we did that story the
other night, we showed -- it's like an suv, a black-window suv with a confederate flag on it and is ripping down neighborhood street, and riddled children are running in panic and fear for their lives. there's a small black child, a hispanic child, they clap, grab their friend, a muslim girl. the suggestion is that gillespie is going to run you out of town. how does that go over with voters do we think? >> obviously it wasn't very good because they folded in about a day. a heinously ugly race. steve bannon, the president's former strategist called ed gillespie trumpism without the trauma. if you can find a way to when and rip virginia using these issues, crime, crime, crime. crime works great for gillespie in northern virginia, there is a large central and latin american population, ms-13, talked about crime, immigration. that works really well for him
there. he had as focusing on that. talking about crimes against children that i actually couldn't let my sons watch, it was so shocking. the ads in this race have been pretty garbage. >> martha: let's talk about new jersey for just a moment. the polls close there at 8:00, do we have the chris christie sound bite from today? this is chris christie when he went about today in vintage chris christie form. watch. >> to sit here and complain. >> i don't have the money like you? >> i'm sure. easier to sit here and complain, but that's the joy of public service. if serving folks -- if serving folks -- yeah. if serving folks like you that is really such a unique joy. it really is. you are fabulous. any other questions? >> martha: that's my home state, i know you are talking about what -- that is just vintage bada bing.
>> chris christie is arguably the least popular governor in the united states, and he seems to revel in it to a certain degree, he likes being the guy that they don't like being the heel, and he kind of digs it. i think he's down with that. i think his lieutenant governor probably wishes that his numbers were a little better, but new jersey is a state that likes to flip-flop its governorship. >> martha: that's true, kim, the race is far from over in new jersey, as we know. molly, your thoughts on sort of the situation that chris christie was in, and maybe put his lieutenant governor in? >> chris christie might be dragging down his side of the ticket there, but i think what's interesting about all these races is what it teaches us about how people are going to run in the next year. i think as chris said, what gillespie did here by creating a coalition of establishment republicans and bannon-ites. that is a way forward for republicans. i think you will see people taking lessons from all of these local races, the state races and
see how they can make it work for them next time around. >> martha: he didn't embrace president trump in the early stages of this. there was no trump-ed gillespie rally happening in virginia, which i would imagine the president would have been happy to do if he had asked for it. why not? >> it's fraught, because we were talking about before, virginia is two states. you have northern virginia, which is a democratic state with a strong lien or donald trump only got about 35% of the boat in 2016. then you have the rest of the state where if you put it altogether donald trump would have one back by three points. that can help you in southwestern virginia if you go out to roanoke, he can help you a lot out there in appalachian virginia, but he can't help you in the other side. this is a problem for republicans in virginia going forward, most of the votes are up there in northern virginia. >> martha: will we see rural turn out like we saw in the national election? to think they are fired up and some of those areas where they weren't before? your thoughts on that?
>> we will just have to wait and see. you don't know too much from exit polls or even earlier results, but it's worth noting mike pence did campaign for ed gillespie and much of the way that ed gillespie ran reminded me about how mike pence ran in the general last year for the presidential election. if there are a lot of people who support donald trump as president, who might not support his style, were very into the conservative principles, and it's just as important as it is that ed gillespie didn't campaign withdrawn. it's also important that he didn't run against trump. i think that is a healthy balance you will see a lot of republicans do. >> martha: surprisingly close at this moment would you say? >> no. >> martha: we will take a quick break, we will be right back.
tight race. and it's looking like turnout is pretty strong as well, so we will continue to valdez drop the the course of the evening. stay with fox news and foxnews.com. tucker carlson is coming up next, see you tomorrow at 7:00. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." it is election night and a few small parts of america, voters in new jersey and virginia elect their next governor tonight. the new york city voters decide whether bill de blasio deserves the second term as mayor. de blasio remarkably seems certain to win there. democrat bill murphy heavily favored in the state of new jersey. all eyes are on virginia tonight where republican ed gillespie is in a dogfight to the finish with democrat ralph northam. polls have closed exactly an hour ago. our fox news motor analysis shows the race is too close to call. if there are some competing impulses in the commonwealth of virginia