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>> have a wonderful thanksgiving. >> i'll be working this week. many thanks to former congressman jason chaffetz, we are back tomorrow at noon eastern and now here is melissa francis and for harris. >> melissa: a fox news alert, president trump renewing his call to build his wall after a border agent is killed in the line of duty. this is "outnumbered overtime," and i melissa francis and for harris faulkner. a manhunt underway in southwest texas after a border patrol agent was killed and his partner seriously injured sunday while on patrol. customs and border protection agents say the agent and his partner were "responding to activities" when they were attacked. the agent's death brings us with the reaction from the president who repeated his call for all border wall a short while ago.
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>> we lost border patrol officer just yesterday and another one was brutally beaten and badly hurt. it looks like he'll make it. but a very badly hurt, a lot of things are happening along the border, the southern border and we are going to straighten it out. >> melissa: casey stegall is live from our dallas bureau with more. >> the vice president of the u.s. border patrol union is telling a local affiliate down in el paso that they believe rocks were used with this attack. however the fbi will not confirm that information for us, the feds did however give some clarification to early reports that the agents were shot at and to the agency said that those reports are untrue, that they did not come under fire. a spokesperson with the fbi office in el paso says they are currently working to piece together a timeline and that's
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about all we know. we can tell you the customs border protection officials say that martinez and his partner have responded to activity in an interstate area, big big ben dn texas. moments later the partner called over the radio for help. both were transported to an area hospital where agent martinez died. his partner is said to be in serious condition right now. this as law enforcement continues to search for possible suspects or witnesses. reaction is coming in, you've heard the president talking about it. republican senator ted cruz of texas also released a statement, it reads "this is a stark reminder of the ongoing threat that an unsecure border poses to the safety of our communities and those charged with defending them." according to the customs and border protection web site, 38 u.s. border patrol agents have been killed in this country in the line of duty, it goes back
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to 2003. >> melissa: thank you. for more let's bring in chris cabrera, spokesman for the national border patrol council and a border patrol agent himself, he joins us by phone, thank you so much for joining us. what do you think happened in this situation? if these agents weren't shot, what do you think happened? >> it's clear that our agents were ambushed, obviously one of them was murdered, the other was an attempt on his life and it's just sickening to think that this happened. it is quite possible that they were hit with large rocks which rendered them unconscious, the rest -- >> melissa: what do you think should be done to stop this from happening in the future? >> there's many things i need to be done, obviously the border is not secure, anybody who is watching this or is following
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border patrol for any period of time knows the border is not secure. we need to get a handle on this border, we need to have more manpower, that's a very important factor, and prosecutions need to be stepped up for anybody that lays a finger on the border patrol agent. to prevent incident like this from happening again. >> melissa: we've heard others say it feels like authorities are being slow with details about what happened, do you think that's the case, do you agree with that assessment or no? >> i think the details are coming out little by little, there is an ongoing investigation. the problem i had with the details yesterday coming out is that there was -- they were cordoning off the area but they didn't want to come out initially and see two agents were brutally assaulted and one was murdered. they didn't want to commit to the fact that one of our agents was murdered. they were waffling between the fact that maybe it was an accident, maybe it was this or that. when they knew that our agent
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had been murdered there was a manhunt underway, they didn't see that it was a priority to get this information out there. >> melissa: why do you think that was? >> i have no idea of the thought process of the agency, i'm glad that it's starting to get out there that what happened did happen and that there is a serious threat to law enforcement throughout the country as well as our border patrol agents. >> melissa: we mentioned at the beginning that you are a border patrol agent yourself, does this make you nervous about being out there? doesn't make you think twice about doing it? >> it angers me that it happened and it saddens me that one of my brothers in green ultimately had to pay the price for securing our borders, it's sad to me for that and like i said i am angry that it happened and hopefully we will get those in custody that did this and the full weight of the justice system will come down on them. >> melissa: people in our audience to understand what it's
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like, can you explain to us with the situation might've been like, what were they facing? i would you be in that area, but would you be doing? it's hard for a lot of us to understand how this works. >> our agents are out there at any given time, we work in large groups by ourselves or with one or two people, it's not uncommon for an agent to arrest 20, 30 people at a time by himself. we go down there and work these areas, communication is spotty at best and it's a normal part of the job out there in the brush in the middle of nowhere by yourself. he called for backup to assist him and unfortunately events happened the way they did and it's terrible, especially for his family and the holidays coming up, it is a terrible thing to think about. >> melissa: how do you feel about the president's response to this? >> i am actually -- it's comforting for the fact that we've never seen that before, usually when an agent or an
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officer dies in the line of duty at least under the past eight, ten years, you would never hear anything about it from the white house. and now for president trump to come out and address the family and let them know -- let us know that we are in his thoughts and prayers and that something will be done, it is very comforting. let's just hope we can get to the bottom of this soon. >> melissa: it's also worth noting that it's not just a wall that would make a difference in the situation. it's about more support all the way around. >> a wall -- the tools we have, the wall would be like a hammer, it's not the only thing in the toolbox, it's necessary but you also need more infrastructure, more personnel and of the biggest thing you need is the political will to get these things done and make these changes. without that nothing else is going to work. sue them very well said, chris cabrera, thank you. also a short time ago the president stepping up to push for tax reform, saying democrats
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are standing in the way and that he will personally work with republicans to get this done. watch. >> with the democrats giving us no votes for tax cuts for purely political reasons, obstructionists, it will be up to the republicans to come through for america. i think they well, i hope they will, it's up to the senate and if they approve it, the house and the senate will get together, i'll be there right in the middle of it. >> melissa: now the white house signals it is open to dropping the controversial repeal of obamacare is individual mandate to get more republican lawmakers on board. susan collins says she doesn't think it should be included in the bill and she is one of several senators who are on the fence. the senate can only afford to lose two votes, of course. here is mick mulvaney yesterday. >> if we can repeal part of obamacare is part of the tax bill and have a tax bill that is still a good tax bill that can
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pass, that's great. if it becomes an impediment to getting the best tax bill we can come up we are okay to taking it out. >> melissa: and marsha blackburn is a member of the house commerce subcommittee on health, she is joining us now. what do you think about taking out that element? >> it would be wonderful to get that off the books and here's the reason why. it is one of the biggest impediments to people getting the insurance they can afford and then that they can afford to actually use. we hear it every single day. the cost of insurance in tennessee has gone up 176%. since the affordable care act went on the books. we are 122,000 families that had to pay the penalty last year, they couldn't even afford the marketplace insurance. melissa, 100,000 of those families had income under $50,000. this is something -- get this
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off the books. let people go by insurance they can afford and that they want. let's pass across state lines, open up the marketplace. >> melissa: exactly what you said, according to the irs, 58% of the people who paid the penalty or 58% of the money that was paid came from people who made under $50,000. it's very regressive in that sense and people would rather pay the penalty than by the insurance, that really says a lot. is that the big hurdle? where else are the differences on this bill, how do you think you can collect more votes if your only goal was to get to the finish line, what would you add or eliminate? >> i would be certain that everybody understands that this mandate is hurting families and it's hurting middle-class families to get rid of it. the second thing, look at those marginal rates. the 39.6% rate, bring it down. so that everyone is going to see
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a tax cut, we want everybody to see a tax cut. the middle classes going to see most of the tax cuts from this bill and that's where the emphasis ought to be. hardworking families keeping more of their money, not spending it to washington, d.c., to be wasted on programs they don't want. >> melissa: you said something very politically dangerous, talking about lowering that top rate on the wealthy, both republicans and democrats seem united in the idea that they do not want to give anyone who is wealthy a tax cut, you dare go out on that ledge, how come? >> i think it is important that we make certain that individuals are going to keep more of their money and you are going to see more of that money stay in local communities, stay in local businesses. and c jobs grow. one of the things i like about the house bill so much is having that 9% rate on that first
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$75,000 that will be net income from all of your small businesses. think of the energy that is going to put into main street america. we've gotten a lot of positive from that. give everybody a tax cut, boost economic growth and make it a goal to get 4% economic growth. make it a goal to get wages up. >> melissa: 4% is not that much and now it seems like pie-in-the-sky in terms of economic growth. if your only goal was to garner more votes, to make a bill that was passed, what would you add or subtract that would get more fellow lawmakers on board? >> what i would do is again, make certain that you are protecting those middle-class taxpayers, those hardworking americans and that they are not going to be paying more. make certain there is fairness in the business side of the
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column. >> melissa: would you put the state and local deduction back in? to make sure people who are protected in states that have high taxes? >> i think you can see a little bit of wiggle room around that, take a state like mine that doesn't have a state income tax but a lot of our small businesses will say we may be paying above $10,000 in sales tax because of the way we organize our business and they want to be able to maximize that portion of the deduction. there might be some wiggle room around that, there may be some wiggle room around the home mortgage deduction. the point is the senate needs to pass the bill, they need to get into conference with the house and we need to get this to president trump's desk by the time we get to christmas. this is imperative, we have to get the job done.
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>> melissa: on a scale of 1-10, 10 being certitude, how likely do you think it is that you get some into the president's desk by christmas? >> i think we all need to say it's a ten. the requirement is a ten, get the job done. >> melissa: get it done. thank you so much, we appreciate your time. fox news confirming the next step in special counsel robert mueller's investigation as he reportedly plans to interview three people close to the president. the white house is saying this may be over by thanksgiving. plus we are learning about new allegations against senator al franken, this time a woman is reportedly claiming he touched her inappropriately while they posed for a photo. he was in office at the time. what this could mean for him. prudential asked these couples:
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>> melissa: of fox news alert, another woman reportedly coming forward accusing democrats senator al franken of touching her inappropriately.
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she told cnn he grabbed her butt at the minnesota state fair while they were posing for this photo. she says it happened in 2010 when he was already a senator. he tells cnn "i take thousands of photos of the state first surrounded by hundreds of people and i certainly don't member taking this picture. i feel badly that she came away from our interaction feeling disrespected." this comes just days after he was first accused of forcibly kissing and groping a woman in 2006. let's bring in the editor in chief for the hill, what's your take on this? >> this is a problem for al franken, he was being mentioned as a possible dark horse candidate for president in 2020 another question is can he survive this. the key is that no other accusers come out, now we have two, i think this will probably be added to the investigation
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that is ongoing even though the first accusation, he wasn't in office but this one he clearly was. i think this is a problem and i -- the key here is that no prominent democrat has called for him to resign. this investigation is not over and that's going to be the key for him, keeping his democrats on his side. that remains to be seen. >> melissa: not going in his favor, i'm not sure i heard anyone register surprised. you didn't hear a lot of that. you have heard other lawmakers saying this is disgusting, this sort of thing is disgusting, you think the tipping point is he needs to have a party leader come out and say you must step down? >> i think it will depend on what this investigation pans out. when you think about it, senator schumer was very quickly saying the ethics panel needs to investigate this.
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i think that's the key, are there more women who accuse him of this, there were some female staffers that used to work for him that are supporting him and put out a letter on it but at the same time, i do think -- his future is very much up in the air. >> melissa: i would think he is probably not the only one misbehaving in washington if history is any guide and i don't know who's going to want to step out and say -- you would have to have a sparkling clean path to be the one to step forward and say he should go because you would think that immediately you are past is going to be taken apart. >> that is right, especially if you are talking about alleged activities that happen before you got to the senate and that is what roy moore is facing in alabama and if he wins there will be an ethics investigation of him. if you are going to look into all allegations before you were senator, you could have a lot of ethics investigations going on. >> i guess it comes down to when you hear about allegations and different people, now it is
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everywhere. it's spread to every industry, it is sort of rampant, people finally speaking up but have we become a society where we are looking at the charges and saying "does this person deserve to lose their career or keep it? >> the first al franken accuser said she does not support him stepping down, she accepted his apology and that is a big factor but you are right. we are probably just at the beginning, there are going to be more bombshell allegations made as you mentioned. across various industries. >> melissa: speaking of which, glenn thrush, a white house correspondent for "the new york times," very prominent, very outspoken against the president just himself was suspended as a reporter from the newspaper after allegations came in about him and various sexual misconducts. does it surprise you, what does this tell you? >> i have been surprised at the extent of all these allegations, what we've seen, glenn is a
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contributor for msnbc, they are also going to await "the new york times" investigation. there are going to be a lot of investigations, obviously they should be looked into and i don't think it's going to stop, i think you will probably see -- whether it is in media or politics, there will be more. >> melissa: i wonder at what point we become desensitized to it. as more and more allegations come out and it does seem like people are still being punished, it gets less surprising with with each person and what does that mean overtime? >> i think when you have some allegations which are very severe, like roy moore, and you have others that are less severe but a very serious, i think there is a danger of saying well, we've heard it all before and i think that's a danger moving forward. but i don't think -- other women
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have come up because they have been emboldened by the brave women who have come forward. that's not to say every allegation is true but clearly there have been allegations that have been proven to be true and admitted to. >> it seems like at this point we had to take everything one at a time, the danger comes when you start lumping them together. different victims, different circumstances in different degrees. there is no sign of stopping, where do you think it heads next? >> i think this is a special moment in history that i have not seen before and that is why i think that it really is going to build upon itself and we are going to see a lot more, i would be stunned if it slows down because clearly there've been a lot of activities that have been inappropriate over the years that are just coming out. >> melissa: more than any of us ever imagine. thank you. it president trump announcing new action against north korea, what the president did and what he said it was long overdue.
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plus the russia investigation is now expanding. coming up, what special counsel robert mueller wants from the justice department and from white house staffers like communications director hope hicks. my friend susie cracks me up. but one laugh,
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large, the highest level of sanctions. it's unclear what exactly that could be since north korea is already so heavily sanctioned by the united states. this announcement came about two hours ago during the cabinet meetings at the white house, his final one before heading to florida for the thanksgiving holidays. the president says this is something that should've happened a long time ago, north korea was on the list for 20 years before being taken off back in 2008 in an effort to save a deal to stop its nuclear program. that clearly didn't work out so well, north korea is about to be back on the list, joining the ranks of iran, syria, and sudan. listen as president trump makes his case a few hours ago. >> in addition to threatening the world by nuclear devastation, north korea has repeatedly supported acts of international terrorists including assassinations on foreign soil. as we take this action today our
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thoughts turn to otto warmbier, wonderful young man, and countless others. >> one active terror being cited by officials is the murder of kim jong un's half brother. there's been some debate within the state department that north korea didn't meet the legal standard to be put back on the list, it's very clear today that president trump believes they do meet that criteria and he and his administration are going to make it official at some point later today. >> melissa: new developments in the russia pro, special counsel robert mueller's team is now asking the justice department for documents related to president trump's firing of fbi director james comey and attorney general jeff sessions decision to recuse himself from the russia investigation earlier this year.
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fox news is also learning that mueller's team is scheduled to interview more senior white house officials in the coming weeks, including white house communications director hope hicks, white house counsel doug mcgann, and a close aide to the white house senior advisor jared kushner. you wrote the book on all of this, what is your take on this latest development? >> i think it is very worrying, it shows that mueller is going well beyond his authority as a prosecutor and is trying to make a case that the president might have engaged in obstruction of justice by engaging in constitutionally protected acts. the president is entitled to fire the head of the fbi, the president is entitled to direct his attorney general who to investigate and who not to, that is what the law has been since thomas jefferson directed his attorney general to go after aaron burr. if we want to change it, we
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should change it by legislation or constitutional amendment but you can't change the law by having a prosecutor make a crime out of something that is constitutionally protected. >> melissa: it doesn't matter what his motivation was? it seems like that's what they are seeking. if they are looking for the motivation. >> do we really want to psychoanalyze every president's motivations? how many of the motivations are political, how many of them are opportunistic, you vote for a president. we are entitled as citizens to look at the president's mine and speculate and say he was badly motivated, i don't see that the prosecutor should have a right to turn a constitutionally protected acts of the president into a crime by speculating about what his motive might have been. >> melissa: this originally was about investigating russian meddling into the election. it seems like they can go as far afield of that is they want. does that include when you hear
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the president's son saying "what about uranium one?" what about the deals that hillary made with russia in the run-up to the election, isn't that meddling with the election? >> i took the position from the beginning that there should be no special counsel appointed, these are political sins if they are sins at all, they are not crimes. we shouldn't say they are investigating trump, therefore they should investigate clinton. we should stop investigating both, appoint a bipartisan national commission to look into russian influence on american elections in order to prevent them from happening in the future. special counsel is the worst way of going after these problems. >> melissa: what if the original allegations about the clinton foundation are true, this idea that they's accepted $145 million during the time of this decision about uranium one was sitting before a committee of which she was a part, she didn't have full control but she certainly was enriched by people who had business in front of the state department, does not fall
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anywhere in there? >> i don't think so, i think it is much like the bob menendez case, they never could connect what he received, plane rides, and what he did. presidents and secretaries of state and others do things for a multiplicity of reasons. the clinton foundation got funds for a multiplicity of reasons, making that connection and a criminal context is dangerous. >> melissa: it seems like you've never be able to do it unless you had emails that said "please sign on the dotted line, i am giving you $145 million and i expect in return that you are going to approve this deal. short of that, how do you make a case like this to? >> the israeli government has a statute, cast your bread upon the waters. it makes it a crime to give anything of value to somebody who is in a position to help you. the united states law isn't that, quid pro quo. it has to be i am giving you this and in return you are giving me that. that's what the legislature decided we have to apply current law, not what we hope law should
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be. >> melissa: going back to the original question, what is next, what do you think is going to happen? >> he is going to do the domino game, he is going to try to find low-hanging fruit, anybody close to trump who we can indict for jaywalking or you name it. failing to complete a form, he will squeeze them to try to make them sing. some of those people when they are squeeze, they not only sing, they compose. they know the better the evidence, the sweeter the deal. it's a very dangerous tactic and it is used by both sides against their political enemies. >> melissa: absolutely. thank you so much, thanks for being here, we appreciate it. new controversy after the father of 1 of three ucla basketball players release from chinese custody bashes present to my president trump. the dad says the president has little to do with his son's return home, the president responding. plus a woman accusing roy moore
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of sexually abusing her when she was 14 years old is defending her decision to speak out. >> when you see that young lady, what do you think? what goes through your mind. >> she didn't deserve to have a 32-year-old man prey upon her. [ click ] [ keyboard clacking ] [ clacking continues ] good questions lead to good answers. our advisors can help you find both. talk to one today and see why we're bullish on the future. yours.
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but i was a 14-year-old child trying to play in adults world. "the washington post" sought me out, i did not go looking for this, it fell in my lap and i had to make a decision. i told them that at that time, the reporters who were wonderful to me, that if they found additional people, i would tell my story. >> melissa: on a radio show yesterday, moore was on the attack, suggesting the senate majority leader conspired with "the washington post" to get that story out to stop his campaign. >> i believe with all my heart, mitch mcconnell and the establishment are in cahoots with the democrats to stop this campaign. i believe they put this information to -- these ideas to "the washington post" ."
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>> melissa: back from the "outnumbered" couch, fox news contributor and democratic strategist and president and founder of the advanced group, katie, that interview was very compelling, some other things things she said where she hasn't received money, she has lost time that she hasn't been able to work, and she didn't tell a lot of people at the time and she always wanted to come forward but it didn't seem possible. >> she is a private citizen, telling this private story and achieving this overnight has to be difficult for her. let's not forget that mitch mcconnell endorsed luther strange, his opponent in the primary. he dumped a lot of money into making sure luther strange won the primary, he lost. if this is really mitch mcconnell being in cahoots with democrats it would've
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happened a long time ago and it is happening now and these people are now telling their stories. >> melissa: what you think about that theory? >> i think in this society we have an obligation to be vigilant about sexism and misogyny. >> melissa: we are getting more vigilant every day around here. >> we started to slip into the beginning of blaming the victim and even question motives in question what kept women from bringing these cases forward is beginning to raise questions about the veracity of the accusations. whatever the conditions, it doesn't change what actually happened. >> are you around in the '90s, are you saying this is just the beginning? >> that's not what i'm saying. >> this was going on in the '90s when democrats were allowing bill clinton to set the bar here to get away with years and years of allegations of sexual harassment.
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>> the point i was making -- >> melissa: the point you were making is that we are starting to blame the victim. we are going in the other direction, it used to be the reason why women didn't come forward is because they knew they would be taken apart and now more than ever it seems like we are suddenly believing the victims more than usual. >> we should be believing the victims more than usual since we don't know what contributes to having a woman hesitate to bring something forward. that is her decision when she bring something forward, we have to question the veracity of the charges and clearly the candidate offended this 14-year-old girl, that is all that matters. >> melissa: turning back to politics, in this particular race, the fact that he won't own up to any portion of it and goes out and continues to do these radio shows does seem to be working a bit in his favor even though his numbers have dropped there was still that part of his state that said we don't want anybody from the outside telling them who to vote for.
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>> he is not backing down on any of this and not giving an inch to any of these allegations and it is true that the voters in alabama will make a decision, do they want to democrat senator or a republican senator who is roy moore and that is something they will have to make a decision. as we talked about earlier, president trump endorsed luther strange and the people of alabama didn't care much. they are going to make their own decision and when roy moore gets to the senate we will see how he plays there. >> melissa: what happens at that point? if he is elected, with all this out there, you are in new territory because you are saying the voters knew this when they put him there, who's right is it to take him out? >> was it an illegal act? was a crime committed? that's an issue for a district attorney to address. it begs the question, if
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forcible touching isn't a crime, why isn't it a crime? the second question is, as it violated the standards of the u.s. senate? we have the right as a citizen to expect a higher standard from those we really, it's our right. >> we have taken character out of both sides. it's all about how the person is going to vote for the bigger agenda and that is fine but let's not act like character actually matters much anymore. >> melissa: on the other side we are going to talk more about this, ucla basketball players arrested for shoplifting in china are now back home after president trump says he got involved. by now a new war of words between the president and one players dad raising questions about what any president should do when u.s. citizens are speaking abroad, that's next.
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>> we are awaiting the start of the white house briefing where we expect quite a few topics to come up today, like the president's announcement moments ago that north korea will be designated a state sponsor of terror, plus a new sexual misconduct allegations were political figures on both sides of the aisle, and can congress
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pack's tax reform in the middle of all this drama? find out when i asked a couple of top g.o.p. lawmakers on the daily briefing. ♪ >> melissa: a new twist in the saga of three ucla basketball players who were arrested in china for shoplifting, they are back home after president trump says he personally asked china's president to help in their case. mr. trump now saying he should've let china keep detaining the three freshmen after one players father downplayed the presidents role in their release and says he's seen a lot worse than shoplifting sunglasses. levar ball telling espn "what was he over there for? don't tell me nothing, everybody wants to make it seem like he helped me out." president trump firing back on twitter, "shoplifting is a very big deal in china as it should be. he should've gotten his son out during my next trip to china
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instead." china told them why they were released, very ungrateful. we are back with our power pane panel, scott, i will let you go first. >> you've got to believe the president has shares in the sneakers. there is nothing that explains him attacking this father except that he wants to move the sneaker brand. the three players thanks to the president, they held a press conference thanking the president. the president attacks the father of one of the players. he made a choice to promote with the father says for his own agenda. >> did the dad say thank you? china is a communist country, shoplifting is 5-10 years. out of all the people that president trump could have aske
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asked, including the wife of a nobel peace prize winner who has been held in prison and on house arrest for nearly a decade, by the way. the president only gets a few of those, he took three of them to get these guys out when they committed these crimes, they were falsely accused of spying and thrown in prison unlawfully, they did the crimes. president trump got him out instead of saying graciously, thank you mr. president. >> let's distinguish between the fun and son and the father. they are individual human beings, you cannot hold the sun accountable for the actions of the father. >> i am holding the father accountable for the actions. >> the president of the united states -- -- to nitpicka twitter war with the father of a college basketball player, isn't that -- let me finish, please. isn't that mean-spirited?
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>> do you know who really appreciated president trump's help getting their son back? otto warmbier's parents, and that was a more severe situation where he did nothing wrong. >> melissa: is a parent myself, if my child went on a trip abroad and was detained, i will be beside myself. if he came back, the last thing i would do is go on a show and talk about -- >> the president of the united states chose to engage him. he didn't choose to engage the players who to thank him. he could've said you are welcome, i'm glad i could be helpful. he chose to pick a fight with the father. that was the president, the president's choice on who to engage. the bully pulpit, he chose to make a response. >> he has power. again, i want to make the point,
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there are a number of americans who are held in china. the president of the united states only gets a few asked to get them out. he specifically asked for these guys take it out over others who deserve to be out for us. they thanked him, the father did not. being a little grateful no matter the circumstances would be helpful. >> melissa: thank you to both of you, appreciate it. we are awaiting the white house briefing set to start moments from now. we will take you there live. life happens.
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>> thank you for joining outnumbered overtime. i'm melissa francis. here's dana. >> dana: president trump designating north korea as a state sponsor of terrorism. one of the big stories we're following as we wait for the white house briefing. hello, everyone. i'm dana perino and this "the daily briefing." also today major developments on two high profile sexual misconduct scandals. a second woman now accusing senator al franken of inappropriate contact as roy moore's first accuser tells her story on national television. >> i think it's a combination of all of those things. my sorrow that others have had to go through this. but here's the beauty of what has happened. the support has been amazing. women and men have come forward to tell their

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