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once they get those technical issues with the parliamentarian done, we are off to the races, folks. 20 hours. it's like a neil cavuto family reunion. and then the vote can ensue. more after this. >> kimberly: i'm kimberly guilfoyle with juan williams, jesse watters jesse watters, dana perino and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five" ." this morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern, another stunning announcement. >> good good morning. breaking news overnight. matt lauer has been terminated from a nbc news. >> kimberly: matt lauer fired from nbc for alleged inappropriate behavior in the workplace. the news chairman released a statement that says a complaint was filed last night by a
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colleague and there's reason to believe it wasn't an isolated incident. now we know it may not have been. in a piece published by variety, it is reported that lauer was accused of sexual harassment by multiple women. savannah guthrie had the emotional and difficult task of breaking the news to the world. >> always can say is we are heartbroken. i am heartbroken for matt. he's my dear friend and partner and he is loved by many people here. i am heartbroken for the brave colleagues who came forward to tell her story and any other women who have their own stories to tell. we are grappling with a dilemma that so many people have faced these past few weeks. how do you reconcile your love for someone with the revelation that they have behaved badly. i don't know the answer to that. as painful as it is, this moment in our culture and this change had to happen. >> kimberly: that was savannah
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guthrie, former colleague of mine from court tv, having an emotional, challenging time. she had a close relationship, friendship with matt lauer. they said she found out this morning and had to go on a and tell everyone. >> greg: i remember the good old days when it was just fnc and everybody was making fun of us. fnc is the first kid on the block who got chicken pox and all the other kids laughed. and then it spread and they are all going holy crap. seems to be with lauer, quite pervasive. it's a pattern of acquiescence. when you're at a company and you make a lot of money, the people around that person won't listen to you because he feels he can do what he wants. in a weird way, a lot of these people seem like children. they have to be told how to act. they have been told yes so many times. the idea of somebody saying no makes no sense to them so they
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bring you into an office and press a button behind their desk so the door locks. i would like to see that conversation with office services. i can understand getting a clap on light but saying i would like a button behind my desk so i can lock the door so i can have sex with a stranger. >> dana: i think they're going to say no to that. >> kimberly: dana, here we are. back in the old studio today. we will be in here until friday. >> dana: we look good in here. >> kimberly: i think so. >> dana: i'm talking to her. >> kimberly: a lot of the people that have grown up watching "the today show" with matt lauer. >> dana: is these revelations have come out, the harvey weinstein one was kind of one of the biggest. and then every day, you can have another story like this. just last week, you had cbs's charlie rose and i think about
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how all these other networks covered fox news when we went through our own difficulties. that's been about a year now. within the last year. one thing that's different with nbc from the others so far is that nbc got ahead of the news coverage. i wondered about that with cbs and others. you know these reporters are working on stories. with cbs, "the washington post" story ran and then the news came out that they were going to suspend unfired charlie rose. in this case, i suppose what happened is because the young woman, i don't know young, the woman came forward to the nbc executive at the same time they knew these stories were being worked on by various publications. "the new york times" and others. they went ahead into their own investigation and took decisive action beforehand so they got to announce the news. nbc announced the news. >> greg: they did a preemptive strike because they knew the
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story was going to break. >> kimberly: one of the suggestions, they said they had discovered, somebody can forward on monday with the reporting. it's stating they had been aware of complaints and that newspapers had been working on these items which they usually will contact the media relations department if they have something like this going on to let them know, especially if they want to speak to people that work there. >> jesse: only nbc news how far back the allegations go. whether they were really decisive, we don't really know that because they could've known about these things for a very long time and because of the avalanche of reporters out to break something, that could have forced their hand also. this woman coming forward. when savannah guthrie said what she said today, i think myself and many people here can understand what she is saying. on the one hand if you work with someone for many, many years and you admire that person and you know that person closely, you feel very sad for that person to crash and burn.
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but at the same time, you feel horribly saddened for the alleged victims of any sort of sexual harassment or impropriety. it's a very complicated and complex situation for everybody when they are involved and they are working with people that deal with this. this guy made so much money for nbc news. can't really be understated. "the today show" was the cornerstone of the network. they made i think hundreds of millions of dollars each year in profit, profit for this network. and matt lauer was paid very handsomely. he just signed a $20 million a year contract. it's like the new england patriots losing tom brady. their franchise quarterback. the key to the offense, so to speak. >> greg: that is familiar, right? >> jesse: we have been through it. other companies have been through it, now it's happening to them. it's almost like it's too big to fail. the financial crisis, the companies are doing a lot of bad
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things, making a lot of money for shareholders and then they crashed the system and then they get bailed out. perpetuating the bad behavior. now people are saying not too big to fail. they are allowed to let that people go, people accused of doing bad things and they're willing to take the hit and start fresh, and i think that's kind of going to be the new outlook when you handle these things. start fresh. >> kimberly: juan, to the allegations that "the new york times" was about to release the story that nbc knew other stories were about to drop. what do you think about how this was handled and how they handled the communications with savanna today. >> juan: i don't have much to say about it. i was surprised reading not only about the button behind the desk that greg mentioned but that they called matt lauer last night before he went to bed to let them know but they didn't tell anybody on the staff until this morning when "the today show" staff was coming in.
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my take on it is we are in a moment in american culture, i think no question when you wake up, it was shocking. i thought "really? they fired matt lauer?" as jesse said, he was kind of the central pillar of nbc for a long time. i agree, i think a lot of companies have to have a different way of thinking. you can't just say revenue and profit is the be-all and end-all. it's going to be social consequences and repercussions as a result of backing this. i think back to what happened with anita hill and the kind of outpouring. now you have the hashtag #metoo movement. i thinking about the idea that president trump continues to be involved. he was tweeting this morning and saying andy lack, the president, he said go look at andy lack. i don't know what that referred to but apparently something as they are. to me what this boils down to is you get a situation in our country at this moment where in
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the political support that's going on, you have republican saying the liberals, the democrats, they don't apply the same standard to their people that they impose on a president trump or a roy moore in alabama who, by the way, is apparently back in the lead in the polls in the alabama senate race. then you see nbc, always posited of as the left, take immediate action. there's more pressure on conyers to resign. >> dana: not really. >> juan: i think there is. i'm talking overall. inside the cbc, there is pressure. i think there is no question conyers is under pressure. >> greg: i don't think this is a political story. it's of cultural significance. there is no due process right now. we are talking about a sea change. people keep talking about it. could be a panic.
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when the entry for allegations becomes lower and there is no investigation, there is no questioning by law enforcement, no time frame to allow the accused to defend themselves. the workplace and the surrounding universe of public opinion is operating now like a college campus. on college campuses, administrators could adjudicate an assault case. that's what's happening now. we are adjudicating law enforcement. if someone accuses you of assault, which is what we are hearing with matt lauer, the law should be involved. >> kimberly: criminal conduct. >> greg: but it happened in sochi so it's hard to do that because it's in another country. the common bond in these cases, media, politics and on campuses, no due process. we have to worry not just about women but about men because these are your brothers and your sons, they are your siblings, your fathers or grandfathers. you have to somehow create a
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process for these people to answer. the way this reads, the man is a creep. a lot of people might not be creeps. >> juan: why do you think he did not get due process? >> greg: maybe he didn't have enough -- >> juan: i don't know that. i think they probably did ask matt lauer. they said they conducted an intense investigation over a 36 or period. i can't imagine they didn't go to lauer. the lawyer for the woman is pleased and said clearly nbc -- i think there is something there. the key here in this discussion about the cultural moment, the reckoning, sea change, however you want to refer to it as that previously the advertisers would not of said a thing. they would've said well, this is a popular show. that's for someone else to decide. in this cultural moment, the advertisers, much like the voters in alabama, are going to have their say. >> greg: but i want to know everything then. i want to know everything about
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what's going on, the specific elements. it's like drug overdoses. you benefit from knowing precisely how people died, the ingredients you have in every case is important. that's the difference between a panic and a sea change. >> juan: there is confidentiality. >> jesse: speaking of panic, we are mentioning this in the green room. the pendulum swings the other way now and unfairly or fairly, women can be unfairly punished because men are now so scared of, rightly or wrongly, being alone with a woman in the office, going on a golf trip, a corporate golf trip, an excursion. anything where you are alone with someone who you work with, there is a climate of fear and you don't want women unfairly punished and not included in meetings or in sessions where you are kicking around ideas because of the fear of some sort of unfair retaliation. i don't think it's going to happen that way. to say that now, can we go out
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for drinks? what's going to happen? i fear that's going to happen. i don't think it will but you never know. >> juan: isn't that the pence rule? >> jesse: he was mocked. >> greg: don't be alone. >> kimberly: he is saying he doesn't want the effect where women are deprived of opportunities. though they might have been included on. and then the abundance of caution and fear and paranoia because there isn't perhaps due process and an allegation could be enough to blow you out or an allegation could be investigated and you find the evidence that supports it. right now, it's a state of flux. everything is piled in together and it's tough to sort it out. >> dana: to bring it back to this in particular, you had matt lauer and charlie rose, for example, and mark halperin. they were commenting on things about things that happen to the network, we were the first one.
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chicken pox. then they are covering these stories. you think about what happened last week when al franken gave his nonapology apology. what would you have thought two weeks ago? he said this never would've occurred to me. i have to wonder, when they were doing the commentary or interviews about what was happening at fox news, internally if they had any idea that their behavior was going to come back to haunt them. it might be one thing that's weird culturally in this moment. do men in positions of power have to rethink what they've been doing, if they thought it was okay before. >> greg: i remember sitting in a bar at cleveland. you were sitting over there. matt lauer was sitting right there and all he kept doing was asking me about roger ailes. constantly asking me. this is not the right place to talk about it. it was the day before, roger ailes wasn't gone yet. >> juan: what about his interview with o'reilly? >> greg: he said the top man doesn't go or something like that. >> juan: something about
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asking questions or exercising power over your subordinates. >> kimberly: coming up, president trump at a tax cut rally in missouri hammering home the need for the senate to pass the package. highlights next. stay with us. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember.
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♪ >> dana: president trump wrapping up a speech in missouri to rally support for his tax cut plan that's awaiting a crucial vote in the senate. if passed, it would be the nation's first tax overhaul in three decades. here were some of the highlights. >> if we do this, then america will win again like never, ever before. of vote to cut taxes is a vote to put america first again. this is going to cost me a fortune, this thing. believe me. believe me. this is not good for me. i have some very wealthy friends not so happy with me. it's great for companies because companies are going to bring back jobs. and we are lowering the rates substantially. that's good for everybody in the room, whether you have a company or whether you want a job.
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it's not easy dealing with the democrats. they want to have people pour into our country, illegals. they don't care where the the l they come from. they don't want to take care of the military. little rocket man, rocket fuel for the american economy. we must start totally winning and winning and winning again. remember what i used to say? we are going to win so much. we're going to keep winning and winning. >> dana: he went after claire mccaskill who opposes the tax package. she's a top republican target in the midterm. i thought we're going to have more sound. okay, so the tax bill, greg. it's got some momentum. how do you feel? >> greg: i don't know. i'm confused. that's my fault. i'm not going to blame it on anybody but me. it's not simple enough for me in the individual parts.
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incorporate, i get it but as an individual, it's like they took a brand-new rubiks cube it is already complicated and then they washed it -- mushed it. it's like untangling your earbuds to your iphone. i will say i enjoy watching him do this stuff. you can see in his head him contemplating jumping off the cliff of a joke. he looks up. he is gauging the benefits versus risks of each joke and you see it coming. unlike a lot of people, he jumps which is kind of refreshing. >> dana: juan, what to think about the democrats. heidi heitkamp from north dakota and senator manchin of west virginia have said they are not necessarily a "no." is it possible president trump is having some impact doing these speeches in their states? >> juan: i think that's why he
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was in missouri. to go after claire mccaskill. mccaskill does not look to be winnable or persuadable at this point. with heidi heitkamp and manchin it's a different situation. chuck schumer has been watching those two because he worries that in fact a populist trump movement, trump won in both big, it could lead them to lose their seats. republicans overall, polls show it's not a popular package. >> dana: a lot of republicans do want tax reform. is it perfect? no, not necessarily. >> juan: it's what greg said. it's not tax reform. this is tax cuts. >> dana: but if you are eliminating -- >> kimberly: tax cuts are -- >> dana: if you are changing out deductions people are no
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longer going to have to come is reform. >> juan: reform as you make it simpler. >> jesse: they are reducing the rates. >> kimberly: tax cuts are within tax reform. comprehensive change that's going to produce a different outcome, consistent with his campaign message that he wanted to make sure middle-class people across the country were going to be able to get a little bit of a boost and help for their families by making things more affordable. >> juan: i think that's why it's not popular. if you do away with things like state and local tax deductions, if you limit property tax deductions, this is why people don't like it. >> dana: they have messaging problems on the republican side with some republican voters saying wait. when i look at this, i don't know how i'm going to come out. i think people agree on the corporate tax rate but they have a problem. today in "the washington post"
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column, if you have a unified republican government, how is it some people's taxes are going to go up? >> jesse: leave it to the republicans to mess up tax reform. not surprised. it was smart to go to missouri. claire mccaskill is vulnerable. i don't know if she's going to vote for this. i think she should. he was pretty funny about it when he went after her. she is weak on crime, borders, national security. great on everything else. it's cute, and it will play big in the local media markets but this is a "america first" speech. he did the drain the swamp deal, hit the big slogans. played a little class warfare. i'm not getting helped out by the tax cut, which i don't like. i don't think it's fair. i think everybody should get an across-the-board cut but he's playing it up because he needs votes from democrats. i don't think he's going to get them and i think he is a little ashamed about being so wealthy and reducing his own taxes so i have to say that.
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again, i agree with juan. >> kimberly: i don't think he is ashamed about being wealthy. >> jesse: he knows he's vulnerable on tax cuts for the rich. >> kimberly: good messaging, like dana said. we talked about how many times we think the messaging, best person to sell it is the president. nobody can do it like he does. let him get out there and get in front of the people because it's memorable. it sticks with people. that's the way they understand it. if you -- of people, like greg says, problems with the individual. he has to sell it to him and the neighbor down the street and he's got to do something that's going to stick with them so they can say i'm behind it. >> juan: we may not be talking about this in a little bit because we will be talking about the fact that the democrats, he needs votes on a budget deal. >> dana: next friday the government could shut down. you want to stay tuned. i had come is your privacy at stake? the supreme court is hearing
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arguments on whether smartphones can be seized without a warrant. that's up next.
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involvement in nine robberies of t-mobile and radioshack stores in ohio and michigan. the government looked at his data, where he received i made phone calls and based on the cell phone towers, said he was near each of the crimes. the lower courts allowed it. now they are being tested in the supreme court. i go to my friend kimberly guilfoyle. >> kimberly: information grabber. >> juan: what about your privacy? someone said i want to follow you, you would say what? >> kimberly: that happens all the time. i think it's important in cases, circumstances, kidnapping cases are missing children. individuals in the area or someone who matches the suspect description, you want to be able to move expeditiously on something, and sees information.
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in that sense, i don't like you have a problem. you could go to a judge, to be extra careful because what you don't want to do is have a case kickback or reverse on appeal. a warrantless seizure of information. it gets tricky and i'm curious to see how they come down on it because people are going to complain about their privacy and say you should take the time to go to the court. the flip side, you lose the moment. versus tracking and pinning. if your loved one was missing or a family member, what would you want to do? >> juan: jesse, the funny thing about this is tea party americans for prosperity, conservative groups and liberal groups are on the same side of. they say supreme court, protect data rates because the government can use it to punish you, tell us whether or not you
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go to a certain church, political activity. >> jesse: i've changed my mind twice. listening to kimberly and listening to you. i came in thinking i don't want anybody being able to look at my location without a warrant. you go to a judge and get the warrant and then you can find out someone's location. you changed my mind. if it's a situation where you need the information immediately, kidnapping or high-speed chase, terrorism, exactly. people's lives are in imminent danger. i understand you need to do that as fast as possible but how long does it take to obtain a warrant? >> kimberly: remember san bernardino, the terrorists were fleeing. i want to find out where they are going if you could track them on their mobile device and catch them. >> jesse: that seems fine. i would carve out of public safety exemption. but they can also crack into your internet search history. i bet greg gutfeld is terrified of that.
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to be the information to look at his search history. i wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. >> kimberly: no reasonable expectation of privacy in those records. c7 facebook, google, apple have filed a brief. they are caught in the middle and they safety sensitive. >> dana: the way it was explained to me by a senior law enforcement officer is the difference between contact and content. say you have a situation where there were five rapes in an area and you get the cell phone information. this one number, he was in all five places. then you've got your guide. that's not content. they don't know what was in those phone calls or messages where he was where there was a pain. you'd have to get a warrant for that. contact should be allowed for law enforcement. >> juan: greg, what do you think? the court is saying you are not
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supposed to have a long-term surveillance of a car, for example, if you are law enforcement, without getting a search warrant. in this case, it would be like, if he had a cell phone on him, so we tracked it. >> greg: the idea of what is private these days is completely nuts. google doesn't charge you because you are their product. they are selling you to advertisers. security and freedom are not enemies. they are siblings. you can have no freedom without security. here's a great example. somalia has no security whatsoever. you would assume they would be as free as ever. one of the least free countries in the world. infrastructure. they guarantee security and guaranteed freedom. poor people in somalia would love to have the security we do. we live in an era of luxury secluded from threats. we have no idea what's going on around us, therefore when we see
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these stories go oh, my god. they are attacking our freedoms. but we don't know what terror attacks have been prevented and because we don't know, naive libertarians can squawk and say security isn't needed. >> juan: that's your bottom line. security, not privacy. >> greg: wait a second. no. i said security and freedom go hand-in-hand. you can't have one without the other. you put it in the juan williams decoder. >> juan: the supreme court -- >> greg: you took a rubik's cube. >> juan: i am saying if you are on the court. >> greg: it is over, juan. >> juan: you need to make a vote. coming up, a highly controversial message to white students printed in a college newspaper. gregory's monologue picks it apart next.
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♪ >> greg: it's not often i get to do a monologue where i don't get to say anything. just quote. texas state university newspaper piece tells white students your dna is an abomination. the writer begins "when i think of all the white people i've ever encountered, there is perhaps only a dozen i would consider -- if you think that's mean, try the ending. rudy writes "whiteness will be over because we wanted to be, and when it dies, there will be millions of cultural zombies aimlessly wandering across a vastly changed landscape. white death will mean liberation for all. until then, remember this: i hate you because you shouldn't
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exist. you are the dominant apparatus and the void in which all other cultures upon meeting you died. i have to say that semiamazing writing, as evil as it is. according to the "washington examiner," the writer was arrested in d.c. during trump's inauguration and tried to crowd fun for legal fees. that's not surprising. that figures. what is surprising that is in the air of safe spaces where students get out of classes or band speeches because of diverse opinions on words, college paper in texas can run this savage call to violence. as hollywood creates movies and t of tv shows creates the myth that america isn't sexist, racist tyranny, college newspaper would run a piece that essentially calls for genocide. i guess the color is white, mass murderers okay. i was going to rhyme. rhyming is too easy.
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sometimes i like to switch it u up. you love this, didn't you? >> dana: i can't understand why they think this is a good use of their time. it's interesting. is it just an outlet? are they trying to get outraged? >> greg: it is to raise awareness. it's always important to raise awareness. >> jesse: that was the excuse. they wanted to start a conversation. can you ban that? >> greg: i think i did six years ago. >> juan: they were listening. they also say minorities can't be racist. the only people who can be racist are people with power. i disagree. anyone can believe another race is inferior. this was basically calling for racial extermination. if you are reversed white and black, this never would've been published. i agree there are advantages to being white in this country. criminal justice system, socially, corporate america, i get that. i'm not acutely aware of it because i'm white but i agree it
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exists. there's also advantages to being handsome or attractive or rich. or well educated. we can talk about that. i think classes of bigger determination of success in this country than race, and if you ask people and appalachia if they are giving a lot of benefits from their white skin, i don't know if they would agree. >> greg: within that weird commentary from jesse, there was some truth, juan, and that is that old-school leftists, it was always about class and not identity. right now, you are seeing the arguments about class, the class system and the oppressive classes, it's being replaced with skin color. >> juan: first of all, obviously the history of the country, skin color was determinative. pieces like this, appeared in more than student newspapers when it came to the demeaning black people are calling them out as somehow inferior. i was interested in this but i must say in response to your point that this guy identifies as a marxist and has previously
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written in those terms which i find bizarre. the editor of the paper who apologized said he intended to use this space to talk about class and identity politics. and bring it into that. but to me it was an offensive piece. i don't see how you can get awa away. my instinct was to say, as the sky -- is this guy lashing out? he said he had friends and lovers and associates were whit white. >> greg: that is like saying some of my best friends are black. generally, the great thing about this is everything lives foreve forever. how hard is it going to be for this guide to get a job? you google somebody's name and that comes up, they are racist. >> kimberly: it's a conversation stopper. okay, it's not going to work out too well. i am offended by it. i get he has a first movement right. i don't think it was very nice,
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number one. i think it's racist to say that. can you imagine if it's a black or latin or whatever or brown is it abomination. can you imagine? yet it's okay to behave like this and act so racially divisive. i don't understand. >> dana: he must get some benefit out of it. attention. >> greg: he is on "the five" right now. >> kimberly: he said he had lovers, did you notice the plural? >> greg: monica lewinsky is not happy about a new tv special about her affair with bill clinton. that's next. time to open the laptop... ...and compare medicare health plans. why? because plans change, so can your health needs. so, be open-minded. look at everything-like prescription drug plans... and medicare advantage plans from private insurers. use the tools at medicare.gov. or call 1-800-medicare. open to something better?
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♪ >> jesse: monica lewinsky is not happy with a new special. it is called "the clinton and louise lewinsky scandal." she offered a title change. her revision: "the starr investigation or, does she have a point? >> kimberly: it might not be nice sometimes to be monica lewinsky. especially the whole issue being resurrected again.
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i imagine she's lived her whole life like this and was put down by so many people. the climate and time has changed so much. you can only imagine with what she went through but at the same time, she does maintain it was can sensual -- consensual. disparity in terms of the power of the relationship and perhaps the impropriety of it. his position as president of the united states. i am sure she probably doesn't want a show about herself. >> jesse: no, it must be painful for her. juan, do you think she they shd change the title? >> juan: yeah, it's not really about her. it's about bill clinton. it's not fair to her. >> dana: i don't think it's fair, but it is what it is. it's going to be hard to change that. it's not necessarily -- she doesn't have a lot of money behind her to do a rebranding exercise. i've never met her but i know
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people who do and they like her very much and say she's brave and courageous. what i like about this is that she's kind of funny. she was greater than a way to figure out a way to do this and you social media. >> greg: the real outrage is that one choice someone made in their 20s will be the lead in their obituary. there's nothing she's going to be able to do that will get past that. in the issue of fairness, it should be the same for bill clinton and in the first paragraph of his obituary should be this scandal. >> juan: oh, come on. >> kimberly: monica lewinsky scandal. >> juan: you are too much. >> jesse: "one more thing" is next. getting a bad haircut. overcrowded trains. turnstiles that don't turn.
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♪ >> kimberly: it's time for "one more thing." dana. >> dana: the capitol christmas tree came from a national forest in montana. it's beautiful, 79 feet tall. it's in engelman spruce. it would not have made it without larry behind the wheel of his big rig. he drove the tree from montana to d.c. it took him two weeks, making 20 stops. he's been on the road with for almost 50 years. over 1 million accident free miles. >> every stop we made along the whole journey, there was nothing
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but happy faces because this is the tree for the people. i'm going to call this the crown jewel of a driving career, and i guess i'm blessed and lucky to have such an opportunity. a >> dana: he wrote a piece about his journey on foxnews.com. congratulations, and thank you, sir. tonight in new york they are lighting the christmas tree and rockefeller center. >> greg: i'm going to avoid that like the plague. speaking of christmas, it's time for... greg's fashion news. this is going to make you throw up through your eyeballs. check out the ugly sweater sweater. it's a long-sleeved sweatshirt designed with holiday themed sweat stained patterns. this is possibly the most disgusting thing i've ever seen. i ordered 60 of them. i'm going to give them to everybody on my staff and i expect them to wear them at the christmas party.
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it's fake sweat. >> kimberly: would you wanted to be real? >> greg: you should sweat and the pattern of sweat should show up. >> kimberly: anyway. let's move on. >> greg: forget about "special report." >> kimberly: , yeah that's what people are saying at home. >> jesse: now for a new edition of... as you know, my mom is part of the resistance and writes me texts. >> juan: yay, mom. >> kimberly: they are very dark lately.
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>> greg: i think she has a future at msnbc or somewhere. >> kimberly: spot on. >> greg: she could sit in for juan when he is not here. >> juan: time to pay up. california senator kamala harris made a bet with ted cruz. on the world series. as you know, in seven games, i think it was one of the great world series. houston astros beat the l.a. dodgers. the bill came due yesterday. she is making good on the friendly wager. she produced a lunch of california goods, a cross party example of respect. >> kimberly: congratulations to michaela, making history sunday at as the first woman wh down syndrome to compete in the
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miss minnesota usa pageant. set your dvrs. never miss an episode of "the five." "special report" is next. >> bret: they do want to see "special report." a busy news day. this is a fox news alert. i am bret baier in washington. big news here but another big day, the dow closing on another milestone as the economy did better in the third quarter than previously thought. the industrial average continues to march into uncharted territory, gaining 104 points today to close at another record high. 60 points shy of the 24,000 mark. s&p 500 lost 1. nasdaq down 88. this comes as the senate prepares to begin debate on a tax reform bill. the senate is in session now, and world leaders condemn yesterday's missile test by north korea, signaling a new dangerous stage of the standoff with the communist north. moments ago at the

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