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broadcast? well, big win over navy yesterday with, a nail-biter right to the very end as the field goal went wide left. as lucas tomlinson pointed occupant, both teams of incredible men and character. gillian: awesome. chris: i'm chris wall lace. roy moore amid allegations of sexual misconduct while on capitol hill members of congress start resigning. ♪ ♪ >> i am leaving while a man who has bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the oval office. chris: senator al franken takes a parting shot as he and two other members of congress step down in the sexual harassment scandal. but president trump doubles down on his support for roy moore. >> this guy's screaming, we want roy moore. he's light. chris: we'll discuss whether this will be a political issue in 2018 and the effort to change how congress handles allegations
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of harassment with republican congresswoman barbara comstock and democrat debbie dingell. then, the president recognizes swrem as israel's -- jerusalem as israel's capital, igniting protests. >> the president does want us the move in a very concrete and steadfast way to insure the embassy is located in jerusalem. chris: we'll sit down with nikki haley, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations. plus, republicans hammer robert mueller and the fbi as the russia investigation closes in on the trump inner circle. we'll ask our sunday panel about gop charges our top law enforcement agencies are pursuing a political agenda. and our power player of the week, a conservative voice for the next generation. >> if you're a conservative millennial, i think you tend to be more idealistic. just as younger people are generally. chris: all right now on "fox
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news sunday." and hello again from fox news in washington. the reckoning over allegations of sexual harassment came this week on capitol hill. over the course of three days, the political careers of three lawmakers ended. on tuesday the retirement of the longest-serving member of congress, john conyers, and thursday the resignations of senator al franken and congressman trent franks. all this ahead of tuesday's senate contest in alabama with a republican candidate, judge roy moore, who faces allegations of sexual misconduct with teenagers. in a few minutes, we'll talk with two leading congresswomen, barbara comstock and debbie dingell. but first, let's bring in peter doocy live in birmingham, alabama, with the latest on the special election. peter? >> reporter: chris, the senate candidate everybody has been talking about hasn't been seen in days. no events for judge roy moore so far this weekend, but the republican accused of sexual
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misconduct by multiple women is hoping to get by with a little help from president trump and his friends. election eve in alabama will feature a robocall from president trump and a rally headlined by his former chief strategist steve bannon. in a statement to fox, the deputy campaign manager for the moore campaign, hannah ford, says, quote: turnout is the key to victory, and we have pulled all hands on deck. our volunteers are on fire for the truth and are termed to stop pro-abortion, pro-taxes, pro-amnesty liberals from stealing their senate seat. the democrat doug jones is counting on heavy african-american turnout to flip the senate seat jeff sessions held for 20 years and called in two potential 2020 contenders on saturday, former massachusetts governor deval patrick and new jersey senate cory booker -- senator corey beaker. cory booker. >> taking constituent calls, not
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caring if they're black or they're white -- don't let me get in trouble now -- if they're gay or they're straight, it's about representing all of the people. >> reporter: something that's been overlooked lately, the write-in candidate. many voters here still plan to write in their preferred republican even though nobody ever staged a formal write-in campaign which means there are countless wildcards in this race. chris? chris: peter doocy reporting from birmingham. peter, thanks for that. back here in washington we're joined now by republican congresswoman barbara comstock of virginia and democratic congresswoman debbie dingell of michigan. welcome, both of you, to "fox news sunday." let's start with judge moore and the senate election in alabama. on friday night president trump spoke in pensacola and gave moore his full endorsement. here it is. >> we can't afford to have a liberal democrat who is completely controlled by nancy
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pelosi and chuck schumer, we can't do it. so get out and vote for roy moore. [cheers and applause] chris: congresswoman comstock, does that bother you as a republican to see president trump and the republican national committee both supporting judge moore who faces several allegationings of misconduct -- allegations of misconduct with teenage girls, one as young as 14? >> well, i was of, i think, the first republican women to call for him to step aside. i was happy to see my friends like senator cory gardner, tim scott and many others take the other side of that and say that we don't need to have him here. now, the voters are going to decide on tuesday,but i think what they're going to have is an ethics investigation, and what we've been doing on my committee is we've been hearing the voices of the women and the victims. that is what is going to happen, because every woman has a story. jeff sessions said he believed these women, and i think if roy
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moore doesn't underperform and he's here, he'll be facing the ethics committee. chris: but does it bother you as a republican congresswoman to see president trump and the republican national committee supporting roy moore? >> yes, i mean, it doesn't represent me. i don't think it represents most of the republican women as well as my colleagues like senator tim scott and others and corey gardner have made clear. chris: congresswoman dingell, democrats moved fast this week to finish both john conyers, your fellow congressman from michigan, and al franken, senator from minnesota, to ten ten -- to step down. and there are signs that your party is trying to seize the moral high ground on this issue. take a look. >> where is their outrage? in fact, on the opposite end they're coming forward to support roy moore. how's that for totally inappropriate positions? chris: is there a difference in how the two parties are handling
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this issue of sexual harassment among members of congress, and is that a legitimate issue in the 2018 campaign? >> i think that the voters are going to hold everybody accountable whether republican or democrat when the 218 campaign happens. this probably was the most difficult week of my career, when you look at somebody like john conyers who had the legacy that he did have to step aside. but this has been going on for a very long time, chris. we know what our values are. i don't consider this a partisan issue. i find it -- i mean, barbara and i totally agree on this issue. i've also called that i think congressman fainter hold should resign. $84,000 is a lot of money, and it wasn't for nothing. we cannot have a double standard, and we still have somebody running for office and somebody in the white house that has acknowledged that they have done things that are not okay, or at least the president has. so it's disturbing. but we have to know who we are, and i think we're all going to
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be held accountable next, republican or democrat, next november. chris: but to -- do you see a difference in the president and roy moore on the one hand and pushing out conyers and franken on the other and democratic leaders demanding that they leave? >> i think that everybody's got to be accountable. so i, i think those that aren't -- i mean, there are, obviously, you've seen sitting at this table republicans are calling for this man to step down. and republicans have even criticized the president for what he did. i think we know what our values are. i think we know what we stand for, and i think the american people are going to hold people accountable next november. >> it's been clear from the past month these issues aren't partisan. they've been in the media, they've been in entertainment, and that's why we took a look in congress. i'm on the committee of jurisdiction m we were looking at this issue even before some of these stories came forward because we knew if we were seeing what we saw in media, in
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the entertainment industry and across all industries that it was going to be in congress too. and that's why we're going to change the procedures. we've already passed resolution, my bill on having mandatory training, and we know there's a lot more that we need to do both in congress as well as with the public at large. so i think it's important, as debbie said, that this not be seen as partisan because it's a watershe would moment where listen men and women are coming together across the divide to change the culture here. that's why you're seeing people leaving, democrat and republican. there's still some democrats and republicans there who have been asked to leave who haven't left yet, but this is still going to be playing out. let's focus, too, on the women and their stories, because we need to see where their stories are and how we can make them whole. that's the real problem here is that women have been denied their careers because of these men in power. and it's a power abuse, not really about sex so much --
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chris: i want to talk about that. we'll talk about reforms in a moment, but let's review what we have seen on capitol hill just recently. excuse me. three members of congress resigned this past week, three more have either settled sex harassment cases or face allegations. congresswoman dingell, how widespread do you think this problem is? i've heard reports that as many as 30 or 40 members of the house and senate may face allegations of sexual harassment. >> i'm hearing those same rumors. the numbers grow each week. i don't know what the truth is, and i'm not going to deal in speculation. i'm going to tell you what i'm the most worried about, which is -- and barbara touched upon. the only reason i wonders, i didn't wander into it, this issue is very personal to me. but this isn't real. everybody says this is a watershed moment. is this really a watershed moment if it's not real for the tip waitress or factory worker or somebody in a law firm or a teacher or a nurse or a doctor? and we need to look at the way that even those who've had the
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courage to come forward in the last few weeks have been treated and demonized. that has been the people -- we're all trying to wrap our head around this. it's happening so fast, and there are names that nobody -- some had heard, some didn't know. we need to make sure that we come out of this, men and women together, changing the culture, working together as we go forward. so we've got to make sure that women who do have the courage to come forward aren't hurt, that their careers are not hurt, they're treated with respect, and those that -- and we have fair processes and we're treating, we are improving workplaces across the country. chris: people have been shocked to learn, excuse me, how congress handles sex harassment cases. and let's put some of this on the screen. there's a 90-day process including counseling and a cooling-off period before a staffer can file a complaint. the office of compliance has paid out more than $17 million in taxpayer funds to secretly
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settle workplace complaints. not all of them, but certainly some of them about sex harassment. congresswoman comstock, you're working on legislation -- what do you want to see? how much do you want to streamline that process for women to file complaints? how much disclosure, transparency do you want to see for people who have settled complaints in the past, and should we be naming past people or should they somehow be protected? >> no, i think we should be naming past people, and that should be fully disclosed. i think we may need to have maybe an outside counsel come in to totally review any of these cases to make sure we get that all out there. so i do fully support it. also the priority needs to be on the victims and fundamentally changing the system so that victims feel they have a process that works for them and advocates for them. so we've been advocating either having a counsel or an ombudsman or some kind of advocate who protects the victims so they
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feel there's a system that allows them to come forward. but i think first we have to know who in the past -- and those names should be disclosed. they're going to come out one way or the other, and they should, as you mentioned. all of that fund is not at all for sexual harassment. so whatever the sexual harassment should come forward, and i believe it will, and i support it. i also support nondisclosure for them not having to honor those nondisclosure agreements. the woman in alcee hastings cass speaking out, and we need to make sure that women like her will be protected to come forward and talk. and i fully support protection -- chris: i've got less than a minute left, congresswoman dingell. is this going to change? i mean, it's pretty easy to pass this resolution everybody has to get training, but are we going to see a real change in the way congress handles these cases and the naming of people who have made -- settled these, at
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taxpayers' expense in the the past? >> [inaudible] >> i think there is total could be r concurrence that we should never use taxpayers' money to pay for somebody's irresponsible, just despicable, unacceptable behavior. so i think everybody's trying to figure out how do you make sure that you take care of the survivor and that the survivor doesn't have consequences. too much of this has consequences. and going forward, chris, we need a conversation in this country that needs to happen at dinner tables, in churches, in barbershops and every place across the country. men and women and families have got to work together on this. chris: all right. thank you, and we to need to point out this is not just about members of congress, although that certainly is egregious. it's in all businesses including our own. congresswoman dingell, congresswoman comstock, thank you both. >> thank you. chris: up next, we'll bring in our sunday group to discuss how big an issue the sex harassment scandal may turn out to be in the 2018 midterm elections. ♪
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>> i, of all people, am aware that there is some irony in the fact that that i am leaving while a man who has bragged on tape about his history of sexual sexual assault sits in the oval office, and a man who has repeatedly preyed on young girls campaigns for the senate with the full support of his party. chris: al franken taking a parting shot at president trump and roy moore in his resignation speech on the senate floor, and it's time now for our sunday group. former speaker of the house newt gingrich, charles lane of "the washington post", rachel bade
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who covers congress for politico, and the head of heritage action for america, michael needham. well, democratic women moved with stunning speed on wednesday to demand that al franken step town. here's a -- step down. here's a sample. >> enough is enough. i mean, this is a conversation we've been having for a very long time, and it's a conversation that this country can needs to have. >> it was really difficult for each of us to come to this point, what i would call a tipping point for each of us. chris: speaker gingrich, i think it's fair to say that you're no fan of al franken, but you had an interesting reaction to him being pushed out. you said this, quote: this is a party which is losing its mind -- talking about the democrats. they suddenly curled into this weird puritanism which feels a compulsion to bo out and lynch people without a trial. question, why was this a lynching? >> he's never faced his accusers, he's never had due process, he's never had an opportunity to clear his name.
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suddenly -- and you saw it in the way he described it, suddenly the social pressure of the left wing of the democratic party came together, made it inappropriate for him to to stay. now, a million people had elected him, and 30 people decided he was inappropriate. they haven't decided that bob menendez can, by the way, is inappropriate. this is purely and simply hysteria. chris: is it also politics? it was interesting, because i asked the two congresswomen, they backed away from that. do you think there are democrats trying to make this an issue? >> i was told by a reporter who really tries the pay attention to this stuff that to some extent the blowback on nancy pelosi when she tried to defend john conyers was so intense from the left that everybody else on the left said, got it, lynch mobs are in this week, let's go lynch somebody, franken's availability. the party, it's amazing to me, especially the man who wrote "giant of the senate,"
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supposedly a very funny book, he was a comedian before he ran, we all know that. he just crumbles under the social pressure. there was no objective force to kick him out. he wasn't going to be expelled, he just couldn't take the social ostracism. chris: chuck, democratic senator tim kaine said we've got a new standard here and that people who are elected to office will be judged, among other things, on their behavior before they took office. do you have any problem with the pressure on franken to resign? was this, as the speaker says, a lin p. ing? >> i think it's highly inappropriate to call anything like this a lynching when you think about the history of what actual lynchings really were in this country. having said that, i would add that i think for a lot of women they may feel like, well, you know, when in the past these things came up, there wasn't so much speed about addressing the complaints, that they got swept under the rug. what we're into right now though as these sort of extreme points
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of view are show is a -- view show is a situation where contrary to senator kaine, there isn't a new standard, there's a shifting standard. there is not an established rule here either about what a fireable offense is or what the procedure should be, and at the end of the procedure what the punishments should be. so i think, you know, what the democrats politically are trying to do by ousting franken is establish we are consistent, we are the party that, you know, means what it says and says what it means. i would suspect that's going to be very difficult, actually, to sustain a consistent view of this because every case is going to be a little different, and the politics are going to change constantly. and i think that was the wisdom of your two the guests when they said this isn't a partisan matter, because truthfully as cases come along you're going to see it's very hard to be consistent about this. chris: let me just pick up with rachel because you've covered congress. as you watched what was
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unfolding in the senate on wednesday when all of the democratic women senators called for him to leave and then a lot of the men followed, how much of this was genuine outrage and how much of it was whatever, whether it was because of pelosi or whatever, a decision we're going to distinguish ourselves from the republicans and trump and roy moore and make this an issue for 2018? >> i think it was both. from what we were hearing, these women in the senate had been talking and texting about franken, they were uncomfortable with what -- the stories they were hearing, and there was sort of this agreement that if one more credible accuser came forward, they would all jump together and ask him to resign, and that's what you saw happen. however, i do think politics is seeping into this. democrats have long sort of fashioned themselves as the party of women, and right now they're trying to show their a base that they don't only espouse these verbally, but they act as well, and they're going to try to claim they have the moral high ground when 2018 comes and say we pushed our
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members out who had this issue. however, i do not think this is just democrats, of course, right? we have a president who is embracing a candidate in alabama who has been accused of child molestation, right? i know there's a bunch of republicans on the hill who are very uncomfortable and hi he's only doing -- and think he's only doing this because of politics, and i think that's why you saw speaker ryan push out trent franks over allegations he also had sexually harassed women. chris: let's talk about roy moore. here's an ad that an outside group is running against moore in alabama right now. >> i want decent people in office. that's why i can't vote for roy moore. what he's done and what he stands for, it makes us republicans and us christians look bad. chris: michael, talk about the politics of roy moore thing in terms of the sexual harassment issue. also does moore win, and if he wins, will the republicans in the senate refuse to seat him or vote to expel him which we heard
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a lot of talk about in the beginning, we're not hearing so much about now? >> yeah. i think it looks like roy moore will win, and it looks like they'll have a senate ethics investigation if he comes there, and i think he should welcome that. he will be a more effective legislator if these allegations can be investigatedded, if the truth can come out, and the entire united states senate can be more effective at legislating if rather than every time you walk down the hall you have to talk about this, that or the other and instead can point to an investigation. it relates to al franken. the other thing that didn't come out is that al franken had absolutely no interest in being a serious legislator. he introduced 141 pieces of legislation, not a single one in his entire career including time with a democrat president was ever signed into law. al franken was a mean-spirited bulldog who had no purpose in the united states senate if he couldn't be one, which he couldn't do with these allegations out there. he wasn't interested in being a legislator before or now, and i think that's part of why he stepped down without even having
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the grace to apologize. chris: not an al franken fan. [laughter] >> that's exactly right. chris: coming up, tensions flare over president trump's decision to ec are nice jerusalem -- recognize jerusalem as israel's capital. we'll report on the latest. and we'll talk with the u.s. ambassador to the united nations, nikki haley, about the fallout. that's next. ♪ ♪ ♪ like the flame that burns the candle ♪ ♪ the candle feeds the flame ♪ topped steak & twisted potatoes at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
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president trump's decision to recognize jerusalem as israel's capital continues for a fifth straight day. as demonstrators in beirut and jakarta marched on the u.s. embassy early sunday morning. in the palestinian territories, protesters clashed with security forces at israeli checkpoints in bethlehem and other palestinian cities. two palestinians have been killed and more than 1,000 injured. while the israeli air force launched airstrikes in gaza following a launch of rockets by hamas. two militants were killed. but it's not just muslim and arab countries protesting president trump's decision. secretary of state rex tillerson faced a barrage of criticism in europe this week from france to great britain the turkey, system of america's closest allies demanding answers why the white house made this decision now, receiving nothing in return that would move the peace process forward. vice president pence arrive here
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in the holy land for a visit next week, and already palestinian leaders are saying they won't meet with him, believing the u.s. has crossed a red line with this decision that undermines past american efforts to act as an honest broker of peace here. chris? chris: conor powell reporting from jerusalem. conor, thank you. joining me now, the u.s. ambassador to the u.n., nikki haley. let's start with president trump's reasoning in making this move. here he is. >> this is a long overdue step to advance the peace process and to work towards a lasting agreement. chris: ambassador, how does recognizing jerusalem as the capital of israel and starting to move our embassy there specifically, how does that advance the peace process? >> well, it, first of all, you have to say what's realistic. jerusalem is the capital of israel, that's why the
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parliament's there, the supreme court's there, the president and the prime minister are there. so we have always, the united states has always had its embassy in the capital city. and so israel should be no different. there have been presidential candidates on both sides of the aisle that have all said that jerusalem is the capital of israel. and so what we have said is enough talking about it, let's do it. this is the will of the american people. the president wanted to follow through. presidents bush, clinton and obama all said they were for it but never did anything about it, and this president said it's time. and we think it's actually going to help us fastball the peace process going forward. chris: but i've got to tell you, actually, i don't have to tell you that president trump's decision is being criticized from all corners. let's just take a quick rundown. palestinian leader abbas calls it a declaration of withdrawal from the peace process. british prime minister may calls it unhelpful in terms of prospects for peace in the region. pope francis expressed profound
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concern. question: what are abbas and may and even the pope missing? >> you know, i mean, leaders understand that courage is important, and we don't do things just to please every other country in the world. we to things to advance the ball, and that's what the president did with this. he said this is time that we acknowledge reality. it's been 22 years in the making, it was time. and not only that, chris, it's the right thing to do. it's the right thing to do. israel should be no different. we didn't set any parameters, we didn't say this was the final status. what we said is we're going to do like we do in every other country, and we're going to put the embassy in its capital, and we're going to continue and are going to continue the fact that we are as committed to the peace process as we've ever been before. and we're going to keep going until we get it. chris: i want to pick up on something you said in that last answer. are you suggesting that despite president trump's decision to recognize jerusalem as the capital, to begin to move the embassy there that the final status of jerusalem is still up
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for negotiation, that in a negotiation east jerusalem could still end up as the capital of the palestinian state? and, again, if so, why make this move now? >> well, i think the president, if you notice in his speech, he made a point not to talk about borders or boundaries. what he did was say that jerusalem is the capital of israel and that we're moving our embassy there. because he strongly believes that, those final status issues should be decided between the palestinians and the israelis. no outside group shuled decide what the final status -- should decide what the final status looks like. at the end of the day, they have to be comfortable with the peace process and the resolution that we come up with. we just want to support them in that process. chris risk so again, specifically, east jerusalem -- if that's the result of the negotiation -- east jerusalem could still be the capital of the palestinian state. >> we will respect anything that the two parties come together on. chris: i want to talk about something else that happened this week. you spoke before the u.n.
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security council when they met on this subject, and you called out some of your fellow ambassadors. here you are. >> over many years the united nations has outrageously been of the world's foremost centers of hostility towards israel. the u.n. has done much more damage to the prospects for middle east peace than to advance them. chris: why, ambassador, why was that helpful? >> because it's the facts. i mean, ever since i have gotten to the united nations there have been repeated attempts to hit israel for no reason whatsoever. it's israel-bashing sessions, constantly trying to find ways to pick at them, and we've seen that start to diminish. but i want the security council and all of the international community to understand when you bully israel, you are not helping the peace process. and we see israel as one of our best allies. we're not going to put up with it anymore. so when we see it, we call them out on it. it's time for them to realize
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that all of these things they've done to israel have only hurt the process. we need the treat palestinians and israelis fairly. we need to hope that they both come together for a peaceful solution, and we need to support both of them. that has not happened for years in the united nations, but it's starting to happen now. chris: now, there has been a suggestion of a resolution to criticize or condemn the president's move in the security council. of course, you would veto that, so the suggestion is perhaps it would be the u.n. general assembly that would pass a resolution. what would the u.s. reaction be to that? >> oh, i would have a strong reaction to that. we have the right to do whatever we want in terms this terms whet our -- in terms of where we put our embassies. and, you know, what i have always said is if we are honest, if we tell the truth, that's when peace comes p. this was the president telling the world the truth. and this was him going through with the will of the american people who had asked for 22 years to get this done. and he had the courage to show it, and i think a lot of americans have a huge sigh of
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relief because of it and now, hopefully, we can see peace process really come together. chris: i want to change trouble spots in the world on you which is part of your job because at the same time the united states is calling on the rest of the world, the united nations to impose, enforce sanctions against north korea. you say that the world has cut off 90% of trade with north korea but only 30% of oil to north korea. and i guess my question is after all the efforts president trump has made to cajole china, to pressure china, why is it the chinese president xi is not doing more? >> well, i think what we are seeing is china is actually following through with the sanctions. they are -- as is the international community. and i'll tell you, when we talked about leadership earlier, the united states is the one that led the entire international community to, basically, oust north korea and say that they had to denuclearize and cut everything
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off. so we've done a great job at doing that. china has followed through on sanctions. but to be clear, china can do more, and we're putting as much pressure on them as we can. the last time they completely cut off the oil, north korea came to the table. and so we've told china they've got to do more. if they don't do more, we're going to take it into our own hands, and then we'll start to deal with secondary sanctionings. chris: well, i was going to ask you, because certainly president trump has launched a charm offensive and also a threatening offensive towards china. why is it that president xi refuses to do more? >> well, i think, you know, president x has his reasons to have red lines, but president trump and president xi have a very good relationship, and for that i think that's why we've gotten as far as we have in getting what we've gotten done. but president trump is really starting to put pressure on saying that they've got to do more. now it's time for china to respond. chris: let's continue in the renal. the u.s. olympic committee says it intends to send a full u.s. team to the winter olympics in
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south korea in february, but this week you said that that is still an open question. here you are. >> i think it fends on what's going on -- it depends on what's going on at the time in the country. we have to watch this closely, and it's changing by the day. chris: so what is the status on this sunday? is the u.s. going to send a few u.s. olympic team to south korea or not? >> yes, we are. the only thing is we're doing in this olympics what we've done in every single olympics. if you look back, we have always talked about security in the olympics. we've always talked about keeping our athletes safe. this is no different. and we are looking at the circumstances just to make sure we're doing everything we can. we're at locations, we're starting to secure the process. but we always look out for the best interests of the united states' citizens. but, yes, there will be a delegation that goes, and we will do everything we can to make sure they're safe. chris: the full u.s. olympic team. >> yes, the full u.s. olympic
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team. chris: during your time at the u.n., ambassador, i think it's fair to say you have stood out for your blunt, sometimes undiplomatic talk for a diplomat. just the other day you said if there's war, that north korea -- the regime there will be utterly destroyed. why such tough talk? >> it's the truth. i mean, the reality is if north korea even attempts to try and threaten the united states or any one of our allies, they will be utterly destroyed. you know, diplomacy is great in some respects, but you have the as be honest. -- you have to also be honest. and this was something that north korea needed to hear and the international community needed to hear. north korea has pushed the envelope to an extreme level. the united states isn't going to put up with it. and the international community has also rallied around saying that north korea has to denuclearize. but that's just the honest facts. if north korea attempts to threaten or do anything to destabilize us or our allies, we
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absolutely will utterly destroy them. chris: so given how well you reflect president trump's approach -- whether you call it diplomatic or undiplomatic -- there's been a lot of speculation that if secretary of state tillerson were to leave his job sometime early next year, that the president might ask you to take the job, and you said this week that you would, quote, not take it. and i guess my question is, why on earth not in. >> i have said for months that i am not interested in the secretary of state position, and it's because i know that i am valuable here at the united nations. i am able to negotiate. i'm able to move the ball. i'm able to really diplomatically to what i need to and sometimes not diplomatically do what i need to. so i think i'm effective, and i try and do the best i can for the president as well as the american people. and so that's why i choose to stay in new york. chris: i just want to follow up quickly -- [laughter] because i can understand why given the fact that tillerson
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hasn't left you would say that, but are you making a sherman-esque -- and as a southerner, you'd understand what that means -- absolutely not, you would not take the secretary of state jobsome. >> i would not take it. i am perfectly happy in new york and trying to be as effective as i and will continue to do so as long as the president allow me to serve. chris: ambassador haley, thank you. thanks for your time this weekend. always good to talk with you. >> thanks so much, chris. chris: next, we'll bring back the panel to discuss the troubled state of robert mueller's russia probe. plus, what would you like to ask the panel about gop allegations of bias in the investigation? just go to facebook or twitter at fox news sunday and we may use your question on the air. ♪ ♪ they really appreciate the military family, and it really shows. we've got auto insurance, homeowners insurance. had an accident with a vehicle, i actually called usaa before
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>> it is absolutely up acceptable r fbi employees to contaminate any investigation. there is no finer institution than the fbi and no finer people than the men and women who work there and are its very beating heart. chris: bob goodlatte questioning the impartiality of the fbi while new director christopher wray defended his agency. well, there were several allegations this week about special counsel robert mueller's probe. first, that lead agent, fbi agent peter strzok was taken off the case in july after mueller learned he was sending anti-trump messages to a colleague. second, that top justice official bruce oher had undisclosed meetings with two people involved with the so-called russia dossier: michael, how seriously does this compromise mueller investigation?
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>> well, i think it certainly raises issues that need to be addressed. i mean, the entire purpose, the reason many of us embraced it, was that the american people deserve to know the truth, they deserve a quick and thorough investigation so we can move on from these innuendos and claims of things that have p gone on. now you look at this, the very best thing that can be said about peter strzok is he's completely unprofessional for somebody in that role to be sending anti-trump, pro-hillary tweets. the fbi refuses, the justice department refuses to talk about what role did this russian dossier that now we find out a top justice department official was involved in talking with the person who put it together, what role did that play in getting a fisa warrant to be able to investigate members of the trump campaign. you have investigators on mueller's team who spent over $60,000 supporting hillary clinton and democrats, defending the clinton foundation, defending ben rhodes, barack obama's national security adviser. chris: that was all before -- >> all before that. all of these are things that that cause people to say is it
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possible for team to put forward a full investigation. i think bob mueller needs to come toward and regain the trust of the american people, give us confidence that this is coincidence and it can be a fair investigation. chris: rachel, there are some legitimate issues and questions here. on the other hand, do you, do you believe from your reporting that there is a concerted effort by republicans both in the white house and in the senate and house to discredit the mueller investigation as it begins to get closer to the trump inner circle? >> yeah, i definitely say there are some republicans, namely trump allies in the house, who are revving up the campaign to discredit the investigation. we saw that this week with the clip you played with goodlatte talking about tainted agents that the if fbi needs to rid itself of. they also accuse the fbi of botching the clinton e-mail investigation. however, i think there's sort of a split right now in the republican party, and we're going to see evidence of that going forward. there are some, like devin nuñes who chairs the house
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intelligence committee that is investigating the investigator, who are calling for the fbi to be held in contempt of congress. but you have people like speaker paul ryan, lindsey graham, trey gowdy, the oversight chairman, you don't hear that coming from them. so i think there are some republicans who want to let mueller to his job and don't want to sort of make this a partisan mud-sling. so -- chris: we asked you for questions from the panel, and we got in this on facebook from michael p. mullhall. have the revelations of special counsel mueller's investigation met the threshold for dismissal yet? was it an e egregious mistake to stack his council with such highly partisan lawyers? speaker gingrich, how do you answer michael? >> i look at it as a great disappointment. he had a great reputation that should stabilize the situation, then he hires somebody like wiseman who has a terrible record and now we know was at
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the clinton election night -- chris: this is andrew wiseman, senior prosecutor. >> when you start going down the list here, i think the number of pro-clinton, anti-trump people he's hired makes you wonder what he's doing. the other thing is to look at, you know, hillary gets discussion, i think, for four hours never under oath, so she can't possibly have committed perjury. meanwhile, you get general flynn after 35 years in service -- now, he did something bad. hillary's top two aides clearly committed perjury, but they don't get attacked. the imbalance in the justice department's entire process between the clinton information and way they've -- clinton investigation and the way they've gone after the president is just, i think, staggeringly corrupt. i don't think any word short of corrupt explains the gap between the way these two things have been handled. chris: i know you want to talk about that, but i am going to switch, and i'm going to talk about us because we, the media, have become part of this story. and i want to turn to the reporting on the russia
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investigation in the last couple of weeks because there have been at least three cases of media reporting damaging stories about donald trump, putting them up and then having to take them down. perhaps the most damaging, and as it turned out, the worst mistake was abc's brian ross who reported on general michael flynn after he pleaded guilty. here he is. >> he's prepared to testify that president trump, as a candidate donald trump, ordered him, directed him to make contact with the russians which contradicts all donald trump has said at point. chris: but it turned out that that reporting was wrong. he said that candidate trump had urged flynn to the reach out to the russians. no, he later had to clarify it was president-elect trump urging flynn to reach out to the russians after the election which is a very different thing. i guess the question is, chuck, particularly at a time when donald trump is bashing us as the fake, as fake news, this
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isn't helpful. >> it is not. what is helpful is that brian ross appears to have been disciplined. i think he was suspended for a month. and that will be at least a beginning toward correcting any of these flaws that come up. i think as the speaker's comments about bob mueller and this situation, what they have in common is that this situation calls for an honest broker, right? whether it's the justice department or the media or whatever, the public would be best served by institutions that everyone accepted as factual. and the whole idea of honest brokers is breaking down in our country across the board, and people don't trust institutions. they don't trust federal government, they don't trust the media, etc., etc. and so when mistakes are made, people will accept them the they are perceived to be made in good faith. what we have now is a situation where people believe these mistakes are being made in bad faith, and the president is end
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couraging that -- encouraging that belief. chris: but some would argue that the reporters are encouraging that too. >> "the new york times" took out a full-page ad saying that the truth matters now more than ever. i would love to know why it matters more now than three years ago. >> brian ross doesn't work for "the new york times," and i -- [inaudible conversations] >> "the washington post", okay, it was "the washington post" that corrected a mistake on cnn that was damaging to donald trump. the media's also right now, at least one newspaper i work for, targeted by groups trying to feed it fake news -- >> if i read one more story in the press about the fact that the president likes big mac and filet of fish sandwiches -- >> is that true -- >> who cares? >> that might be true -- chris: all right. i will point out that was included in the book that's just been written by two trump supporters, corey hue wan dow sky and david bossie, that's a lot of calories. thank you, panel, see you next
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conservative podcast in the country. plus i do like that tranquilizer proceedings there is about 10 insults that he uses. they keep going around and around.>> editor of the daily wire that has 100 million page views per month. and a big presence on college campuses. for his militant conservative views for protests. you're not a medic you think you are a man. this exchange is a 22-year-old college student over transgender identity has attracted 47 million views on facebook. is like can you not identify as 60? you cannot magically change agenda. you cannot magically change her sex. you cannot magically change your age. >> university of utah listed what he calls a hierarchy. >> you have black and hispanic folks than women, then sewage, agent and then white -- their
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opinions don't matter at all. wes shapiro has been called the boys of conservative millennias.how are conservativecolonials differ from baby boomers? there always is in every choice, every political choice particularly with the lesser of two evils.if your conservative millennial at the detent to be more idealistic. as younger people are generally pure. >> while i applaud some of the policies, he says that the tweets are needlessly divisive. and turn off his generation. >> young people in the united states dramatically disliked its administration and the republican party. and it is the presidents responsibility for the conservatives anyway to fix that. and sitting there on twitter and retreating in first comment will not doing that. >> needs work for breitbart in the campaign but then he said he quit when he turned when it comes a trump propaganda.
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>> i think steve bannon is very interesting being perceived as powerful. i think he is not nearly as much as he wants to seen as request as said, he has always moved fast. at age 5 he just for halloween as john adams. by age 17, he wrote a nationally syndicated political column. >> i skipped a couple of grades. actually thought it was going to double major in genetics and music i was always pretty driven. things that i hate. >> is only plan now is to keep pushing his special brand of combative conservatism. >> sometimes to get your messages across is to keep going. i'm not going to deliberately offend people. i'm just saying what i think is true. in precisely what is needed to convey the message. >> after the interview i had one piece of advice shapiro. find talking a little slower so
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some of us can keep up with him. that is it for today. have a great week! see you next "fox news sunday" that's it for me. james rosen. julie: we will be back, 4:00. >> today i'm announcing that in the coming weeks, i will be resigning as a member of the united states senate. i of all people am aware that there is some irony in the fact that i am leaving while a man who has bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the oval office, and the man who has repeatedly preyed on young girls campaigns for the senate with a full support of his party. >> welcome to the journal

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