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temperatures in times square. gillian: that is a fun crew, you don't want to miss that. leland: and i you can stay at home. happy new year. gillian: happy 2018. leland: see you tomorrow. daines: i'm dana perino in for chris wallace. president trump warns iran the world is watching as protesters rise up against the regime. ♪ ♪ we'll have a live report on the wave of rallies, the reaction from the white house and how it's raising the stakes. then, lawmakers face a host of issues when they return to washington as the clock ticks down to 2018. >> really do believe we're going to have a lot of bipartisan work done, and maybe we start with infrastructure. dana: but what are the odds republicans and democrats can find common ground? >> we hope the future will be different and our republican friends realize their legislative and political goals are better served by bipartisanship and compromise rather than gridlock and strife.
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deign from a: we'll spend the hour with our sunday panel. plus, from natural disasters to the opioid epidemic, we'll find out the state of the nation's most pressing crises. all right now on "fox news sunday." hello again and happy new year's eve from fox news in washington. we begin with breaking news. the protests in major cities across iran, including the capital from college students and others -- angered by the country's worsening economy -- are challenging the government in a way not seen since the islamic republic's disputed 2009 presidential elections. president trump has tweeted his support of the protesters, and it's sparked pushback from iran. let's go live to steve harrigan in west palm beach, florida, for the latest from the winter white house. steve? >> reporter: the protests across iran clearly a focus for president trump. he has tweeted about them for the past three days in a row
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including just minutes ago, drawing attention to the demonstrations and showing his support for the protesters. the president tweeted: many reports of peaceful protests by iranian citizens fed up with regime's corruption and its squandering of the nation's wealth to fund terrorism abroad. iranian government should respect their people's rights, including the right to express themselves. those remarks drew a sharp response from iran's foreign ministry saying: iranian people give no credit to the deceitful and opportunist remarks of u.s. officials. the protests which have spread to cities across iran began with food shortages. but the anger has expanded to target the islamic regime itself and the supreme leader by name. on saturday president trump retweeted a portion of his address to the united nations from september in which he predicted the iranian people would soon face a choice.
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>> oppressive regimes cannot endure forever. >> reporter: it is hard to tell where the protests are heading, but as their scope has gotten wider, so too has the intensity of the crackdown which has seen arrests, tear gas, water cannons and now shots fired in at least two -- and at least two protesters killed. one thing that is clear no matter how these protests do develop is that this president will not sit by silently on the sidelines. and this just in from iran's state tv, the government has at least temporarily shut down instagram and the internet messaging app telegram. dana, back to you. dana: steve harrigan in west palm beach, thanks for that. bruce mehlman, former assistant secretary of commerce for technology policy under president george w. bush, former dnc communications director, marie hart, former spokesperson under president obama, and michael need ham, head of heritage action for america.
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right before the show president trump tweeted again about iran. take a look at this. he says -- let's see if we can pull it up here. yes. big protests in iran, the people are finally getting wise as to how their money and their wealth is being stolen and squandered on terrorism. looks like they will not take it any long or. the usa is watching very closely for human rights violations. michael, let me start with you. what do the protests tell us about what's happening inside iran, and does the fact that there are these protests for perhaps as unorganized as they are, but they are growing, put aside the theory that president trump had united iranians behind the regime because he had been tough about iran and threatened to decertify the iran nuclear deal? >> it certainly does. as you mentioned a month ago "the new york times" had done a big story headline saying that president trump was unifying the iranian people behind the regime. that's clearly not what's going on. these were protests that started
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over the price of poultry and eggs, but clearly it's about much more than that. it's about terrorism. they're saying death to hezbollah. exactly the types of things you need to see going on in iran for a change in behavior if not the actual regime. all that said, you have an extraordinarily powerful regime. it's powerful with money that was given to it in the iran deal that president obama struck, it has arms, it has proxy militias all through the region that it has set up. and so the protesters are certainly up against a very powerful regime. that's where the united states can come in, help provide them with access to the types of secure communications they need to go forward. we've got ambassador haley could do something symbolically at the u.n., and really we need to put pressure on our european partners to step up. it's pretty embarrassing right now that all of these post-nationalist human rights defenders in europe are completely silent when you actually have people standing up for themselves, standing up for their economic and human rights, and europe and canada, frankly, have been completely silent. dana: and we've seen a lot of
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video of women who are being very brave in particular because of the crackdowns that they have to go through. bruce, how important is it for the united states to consider helping on this issue of being able to communicate? you heard steve harrigan say the iranians have shut down the ability to the communicate via instagram, twitter, other social media, and it's also how western media finds sources and gets information. >> you know, i guess i have two thoughts on that. first, we've got to be careful. we too often in these kinds of conversations make the rest of the world's politics all about us. is this about them supporting trump or hating trump or supporting obama or not, and the reality is this reflects a population's unhappiness with a repressive regime that's not delivering positive economic results and in some ways is, rather than the global terrorism story, this better fits into the global populism story and the concerns with establishments that aren't delivering the type of growth for the nation and the type of freedoms for the nation that people want. that also explains brexit.
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it's a lot to do with the election in 2016 here. with respect to shutting down technology, people often forget the internet and all of these social media applications are neither good nor evil. they are forces that can be used for great good in encouraging population or in problematic ways to crack down on people. you know, the united states certainly wants to see the success of the people michael described. at the same time, if the policy of the united states becomes we're going to weigh in on the domestic politics of other nations around the world, getting involved through technological means, boy, that sounds a lot like something the former xbi director's -- fbi director's looking at. dana: the attempt was to try to get people the access that they need. marie, there's no secret that part of the storyline here in america as we, of course, focus on ourselves is that they're comparing president obama's reaction or lack of support for protesters in 2009 to what you see from president trump and pence and the rest of the administration today. is that criticism fair, or do
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you look at it and think it was circumsubstantial and different back then? >> well, i think as we're look today in 2017, almost 2018, the united states has to walk a very fine line here. it will not help protesters to have overt united states support for them. the iranian government is already accusing protesters of being western lackeys, u.s. lackeys. that does not help their cause. so while we should -- and the president did say the world is watching -- we should stand with people standing up to repressive regimes, there is a fine line here. because if the goal is to make sure these protesters actually have space to express themselves, the united states weighing in on their behalf stronger than -- you know, some people wanted us to do that in 2009. the reason we didn't was because it was our judgment, and we were hearing from iranians protesting on the streets that your support will not help us. and so that's the line the trump administration has to walk here. and i hope they continue to look at it from that, from that perspective.
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dana: moe, this is all happening while there's another geopolitical, imminent problem from north korea, and it is a regime that is racing towards becoming a nuclear power with capability to wipe out any city in the united states, as they say. is this a race against time if china and russia are not going to fully cooperate? >> i think so. i think so. there's no question that china is really the key here, that they will -- that they have more leverage on north korea than almost anyone else. russia needs to play an important role here, and if they don't step up, then i think north korea is headed on a trajectory that's going to be very hard to slow down. a lot, this past year we've seen a lot of back and forth with this administration and the best way to deal with it. i think now looking back on the first year of the trump administration, i don't think the tone that the president has set was as successful as he thinks it is. i don't think it has slowed them
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down at all. so i think our diplomatic efforts need to be focused more on china and on russia, getting them to step into the very important roles that they need to play. because otherwise we are headed on a very dangerous trajectory. dana: michael, president obama's handling of national security issues played in large part in the midterms of 2014. do you see that as a big part of going into the 2018 mid year for president trump? >> well, i think, look, there's a lot of issues that played in 2014. i'm not sure national security will be number one or number two, but people should look at this and say we finally have a president of the united states with a coherent national security strategy where he's taken all the different thicks he's talked about -- things he's talked about and put it into a national security strategy. we have a strategy that's about more than just cutting a deal with iran on the nuclear issue, but is dealing with the fact that they are striving to be a regional hegemonic power. i think it needs to be stronger to get the chinese to engage, and during the first term of the
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bush administration we put secondary sanctions on a bank in hong kong that really had an impact on the behavior of the north korean regime. we need to be doing that again, secondary sanctions on there's 12 chinese banks that could be targeted. but we finally have a coherent national security strategy, coherent engagement with the rest of the world that is making us safer. and if you look at this at the end of eight years of the bush administration, the world was safer for america. at the end of eight years of the obama administration, the world was less safe for our country, and i think we are well on the trajectory right now -- and people should keep that in mind in 2018 and beyond -- dana: i should mention there was the issue of isis in 2017, and the administration points to the fact that they're quite diminished not only just in territory, i think 98% to of the territory is diminished, bruce, and the fighter thes are out. but the cybersecurity threat and also the online recruitment of terrorists by isis, is that something you're going to be looking at in 2018? >> i think everybody has to look
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at that. there is a threat not only from isis, but around the world. the internet has empowered more people, created more economic opportunity and been better for the world than any prior technology, and it also creates greater vulnerabilities and threats than any prior technology. we are brilliant at connecting and creating those opportunities and pretty inept at defending ourselves and our allies around the world. a lot's going to have to change and, hopefully, it can change before something really bad happens. dana: all right, panel, we have to take a quick break. when we come back, the effort to avoid a january federal shutdown and what is on to-do list when congress returns. ♪ ♪ quit smoking. but when we brought our daughter home, that was it. now i have nicoderm cq. the nicoderm cq patch with unique extended release technology helps prevent your urge to smoke all day. it's the best thing that ever happened to me. every great why needs a great how.
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>> we're going to pick up where wet off and get back at reforming health care, reforming these entitlements, and we're going to take on welfare reform where we're basically paying able-bodied people not to work. >> i think the democrats are not going to be interested in entitlement reform, so i would not expect to see that on the agenda. dana: paul ryan and mitch mcconnell somewhat at odds over what to tackle next as part of the republican party's agenda in 2018. and we're back now with the panel. michael, let me start with you. after a rocky several months on the legislative front, the republicans pull it together, and they're able to leave with several accomplishments. they point to economic growth in the regulatory rollback, judicial appointments, the fight against isis and now the tax bill. so i'm wondering if at this point as you look back an the year, is the republican civil war sort of coming to an end as they figure out a way to work together? >> well, we need to get things done. there are still are differences
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of opinion, and i think part of the reason was donald trump got elected was he recognized that the chamber of commerce agenda that the republican establishment in washington likes to fight for isn't actually what people across the country who are anxious need. we need growth, which is why i think the tax bill is so important. i think when you look at, as speaker ryan talked about the welfare system which not only keeps able-bodied people out of the work force which, again, hurts growth, but is a complete attack on the human flourishing of people being able to go in and find self-worth and dignity, those are the types of policies that we need. that's different than what the republican party, which loves to come to town and worry about insurance programs for, you know, for companies or the export-import bank or the typical agenda of the chamber of commerce. i don't think the republican civil war is over. we need to come together around an agenda that actually gives dignity and achievement to people all across the country who feel like washington doesn't care about them. dana: but, mo, a lot of republicans are thinking at this
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point even if they felt like the populism strain of the trump campaign wasn't something that they could go for, that actually the agenda they could largely agree on, especially when it comes to tax cuts, wasn't necessarily what they thought woulds happen at the end of the year -- would happen at the end of this year. and are democrats starting to get concerned that rage against president trump will not be enough to carry them into successes in 2018 or even in 2020 if they don't have a coherent message and accomplishments of their own? >> yeah. there's two parts to a successful campaign message, right? one is, you know, when you're the party out of power making the aggressive case against the party that is in power, but you've got to offer an alternative as well. so democrats do need to offer some sort of an agenda. now, i will say this about 2017 and the republicans in congress -- arthel: right now we're going to dip into this press conference out of colorado involving that shooting this morning. let's listen. >> they're helping us, so there'll be a lot of folks here,
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so i thank you for doing that, and i thank you for your prayers. i ask you for that again. it's not a simple thing. it is a very meaningful thing, to pray for zack's family. they're still coming into town, and his wife and his two little people. so i'll answer a few questions. a lot of stuff that we're not going to share at this point, and i apologize right up front. so i'll to a few things, do a few questions if you have some. >> sheriff, can you give us just a sense of the timeline, how long this unfolded and how you finally brought it to a conclusion with the suspect being shot? >> we responded to the residence at 5:14 this morning on a verbal disturbance, and it was almost immediately after that upon arrival the officer, the shooting took place.
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the officers were injured and were extricating themselves away from the apartment complex, and then other officers came in, and we maintained and secured it. the suspect continued to shoot at officers for some time until he was engaged by officers and was killed. >> reporter: was that a s.w.a.t. team or was that a -- >> it was members of a joint task force unit. we do have a regional s.w.a.t. team that all these guys up here are part of, and so the officers that were involved in the actual shooting, their names aren't being released, obviously, at this point because the investigation is still ongoing. but they are a part of a regional it is task force. [inaudible conversations] >> reporter: was zachary one of the first ones on -- [inaudible] so we can understand why he got, so many people got shot.
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>> the four officers all arrived at the same time, and they went into the house at the same time and contacted him, and they, a bedroom portion of the apartment complex. and the sequence of the officers who was shot first, i don't have that available. we'll hopefully get some body cam footage that will help me answer some of those questions. although i do know that all of them were shot very, very quickly, and they all went down almost within seconds of each other. so it was a, it was more of an ambush type of attack on our officers. he knew we were coming, and we obviously let him know that we were there to investigate the disturbance. and so i don't have any other particulars on -- >> reporter: when you said that you -- [inaudible] when you said you can't say much more, but can you give us an idea of how many calls to that
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apartment you've had in the past or how well are you familiarized with -- [inaudible] >> we, we -- if it's who we believe it is, we know that he has had law enforcement contact on a number of occasions. i was it would just a few moments ago that there was no criminal history, so he has had encounters with law enforcement throughout the metro area, and that's about the only thing i can say right now. >> reporter: what kind of weapon, sheriff? >> that is still being determined by the investigators. we to know that it was a rifle, and other than that i can't tell you. >> reporter: can you tell us more about zachary and his children? >> i will. i'll come right back to you, anastasia. what was that? >> [inaudible] >> well, yes, they are. domestic violence investigations are very, very dangerous. when the officers arrived at the department, they quickly figured out that, you know, that there was some kind of unfortunate circumstance that was taking place in that apartment.
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and they immediately started to investigate it, and that's when they were shot. >> reporter: can you tell us more about zachary? i know he worked with you for a short time -- [inaudible] >> i don't know why he chose to come to work for us. he worked for a great police department, he came from castle rock police department. and loved it there. and they're a great agency, and so he chose to come over to douglas county. his children are young, that's all i'm going to say at this point right now, but he has two very young children. and his wife, they have a great support system in place. obviously, with the holidays there were a lot of people here available to them. and we have resources available to her as well and the children. >> reporter: sheriff, you said that, first of all, you arrived around 5:13, and i believe the shooting didn't start until about -- [inaudible] if i'm right on the timeline, correct me if i'm not, but what
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was going on in that amount of time before the shooting started? >> what i know about that, i don't have the particulars on the time available to me, but i do know that the officers were engaging him, they were having conversation, they were trying to talk to him. they were talking to other persons or person that was at the apartment complex. and so they were conducting an investigation. and during that time is when he chose to barricade himself into a bedroom. >> reporter: and did they know the specifics, the previous call history at that -- >> yes. yes, yes. >> reporter: why did you choose to go in the house? were there hostages or something? why did they choose to go in the house? >> there were no hostagings. they were let in the house by either the other person that lives there or him, i don't know the particulars on that. but they were let into the house to conduct their investigation. >> reporter: could you tell us at what point your department -- [inaudible] does a reverse 911 call, if
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there was a lag and why was there a lag. >> good question. i have no answer. i don't know. if there was a lag in the reverse 911, we'll look into it. i don't know that. i do know that we do send out 911s, and i don't know the particulars on what the message was sent. i do know that officers were working to try to get people that were on either side of the apartment complex evacuated. but the time frame on the reverse 911, i can't answer that. >> [inaudible] is there one thing that -- [inaudible] escalated to the -- [inaudible] was the shooting immediate upon their arrival? >> no, and i don't know if there is anything that escalated it, why he chose to do that. those officers will be interviewed as soon as they're able to be out of the hospital.
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and we can get more information on what led to him barricading himself and shooting at the officers. >> [inaudible] officers were wearing body cams? >> yes, ma'am. >> reporter: do you know how many people were in the apartment at the time of the response? >> i believe just one -- two. >> reporter: two people. any children? >> no children. >> reporter: and so who called you guys? >> a neighbor called with the noise disturbance. >> reporter: so it was not -- [inaudible] >> well, it's not a male/female domestic. it was a disturbance at the house. we originally got it as a domestic, but when the officers got there, they quickly learned it wasn't a husband/wife or, you know, partner type of thing. and that was part of their investigation, but it was originally called in as a domestic and then quickly learned it was a disturbance. >> [inaudible]
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was there a fight? was there -- [inaudible] what was going on in the apartment? >> he, the suspect was just making a ton of noise and annoying everyone around him. >> reporter: sheriff, i understand one of your deputies -- [inaudible] separated from the others and was actually in the apartment with the suspect which must be an agonizing thing, but can you tell us how long that deputy -- [inaudible] >> i don't have the exact time frame but, yes, he was. when he was shot and went down, the other officers went down right around him, and they tried to pull him out, but they were unable to due to their injuries. and so they were able to crawl to safety. he was not conscious, and so they weren't able to talk to him or to get him out. and the suspect continued shooting at the officers over
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zack. so the time frame, how long it was before we went in there and got zack and eventually was engaged with the suspect, shot and killed him, i can get you that time frame. i don't have it available. >> reporter: just to clarify two civilians, one in the apartment was a suspect? one was a neighbor? you mentioned there was two -- >> no, there was two separate people, not the person involved in the disturbance. >> [inaudible] >> yes, ma'am. >> reporter: the civilians who were injured, were they in other apartments or bystanders? how does that -- >> i believe they were in other apartments, but i need to clarify that to lock that in. >> [inaudible] >> we respond to every call anticipating that everyone has a gun. this is colorado. everybody has a gun. and so we anticipate that when we respond to them, that people have guns, and we address it in
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that fashion. i don't know if there was any lead-in information that there were guns until they encountered it, and at that point it was too late for them to, you know, make any further assessments. >> reporter: sheriff, we know that four people were taken to -- [inaudible] one of the three people taken, i'm told, is -- [inaudible] who was taken to -- >> that was the castle rock police officer that was taken -- [inaudible] you had a question? >> reporter: so the two men inside the apartment when you responded, one of them being the suspect, the other one, what was his relationship to the suspect? was he a roommate -- [inaudible] they both lived there presumably? >> they were just roommates. he's cooperating in the investigation fully. >> reporter: and he has not been injured? >> he was not injured. >> reporter: how long when the first shots started til -- [inaudible] >> [inaudible] >> 7:30, so 5:45 to 7:30.
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>> was zack, were you able to take out zack -- >> a little before that, yes. >> [inaudible] >> yes, he was. >> reporter: do you know if he died -- [inaudible] >> i talked to, i don't want to speak on behalf of the coroner, but i did talk to the emergency room physician that attended him at the hospital, and i did that so i could go meet with his wife to tell her, you know, how long he was there. really i've got to worry about my officers who backed out, and they think their partner's inside. the physician said that he had no ability to survive the injuries that he was hit, he was hit multiple times, and the locations he was hit would not have been able to save his life. >> reporter: sheriff -- [inaudible] however, just if --
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[inaudible] how does the department deal with such difficult events and such -- [inaudible] >> well, i have good friends standing behind me who have been through this before, and i have good support mechanism through the county, and that's where it's very important. commissioner dave weaver who used to be my boss came and was there, support. so it's great to have a support mechanism to help us, because this is not something that you can go to school to learn how to do. so i've been asking them all questions about am i doing the right thing. the key here is taking care of zack's family and taking care of the family of the officers and the officers who survived this and make sure that we can get through it on the other side and
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continue to do what we do best, and that is provide a service, a public service to the people of douglas county, try to keep them safe, try to eradicate this type of behavior. and that's what these officers do in the middle of the night, they go to these calls hundreds of times, and they all turn out okay. unfortunately, tonight did not. it didn't turn out okay for zack and for the other officers. so i have a lot of support mechanism, a lot of folks here, my command staff are at my side all the time, and really what we're trying to do right now is to figure out how we can put together a farewell service to deputy zachary parrish and the service that he did for the citizens of douglas county. >> reporter: were all of your deputies wearing -- [inaudible] >> yes, ma'am. >> reporter: and where was the deputy when he was shot? [inaudible]
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>> there is a female, and that's taylor davis, female officer. they were all wearing vests. and the rounds all struck them outside the area where the vest was at or in areas where the vest doesn't cover. >> reporter: didn't you say four originally responded? >> yeah. of the castle rock police officer, i'm not sure where he was injured. i'm not sure exactly where he was injured. >> he was shot in the leg. >> he was shot in the leg. >> reporter: and did that happen after the fact? i was told -- [inaudible] >> yeah. i believe that was when they were engaging him to go rescue zack. >> reporter: sir, could you just give us a sense of the speed and the level of violence that occurred here? it's, obviously, hard for those of us -- [inaudible] to fathom what happens when you have five officers standing there and one person gets the drop on them. >> there's a lot that's going to
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come out of this investigation, and we will looking into that on what was going on in that room. like you said, we'll examine body cam. but initial interviews with the officers, they were doing exactly what we do in every other disturbance call. and people have guns in their homes, and once they barricade themselves, you can almost always assume that there's a gun there. and so this situation, you know, went very quickly once the officers could no longer negotiate with him, could no longer talk to him. and this happens a lot in these types of calls. >> reporter: the worst on your watch, is this the worst day in the department's history? >> well, losing an officer is, you can't put one above the other, and i've been here 37 years, and i've lost friends in the line of duty. you mentioned a detective that was shot just a little bit more than a year and a half ago.
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that's difficult. it's never easy to lose one of your deputy sheriffs. this is a first for me as a sheriff, to have an officer that's killed in the line of duty, and that is why i lean on my partners that are here to help guide me through this and my friends in the community. this is a tragic day, and this is a tragic day that we'll be feeling for a long time. zack was a good kid, smiley kid. go up and down the halls, you could see his face. he was eager to work and eager to serve. his wife told me today that he loved this job more than he had loved any job he'd ever had. and so you get a kid like that, that's, you know, just loving to serve, and unfortunately he was called today. >> reporter: sheriff, you said that -- [inaudible] let you into the apartment, or
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let your officers into the apartment? >> i don't have that information. i can get that for you. i don't know who let who in. >> reporter: just to clarify, he was in the apartment. >> two males lived in the apartment complex. we didn't kick any door down or anything like that. we were engaged in the situation. >> reporter: can you tell us about the final half hour before the gunman was shot, anything you know at this point realizing it's preliminary? >> i know that we were doing what we could to secure the neighborhood and putting officers in place, snipers and other tactical officers in the place to secure that area in the event that it went mobile or he got out. and so there was a lot of work with happening. we had a lot of resources. officers from a lot of law enforcement agencies responded to assist us in this, and they were making plans to go in and extract zack and try to do it in
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the most safest possible way while the suspect was continuing to shoot at officers. so there was, there was a plan to deal with someone who was shooting at them and to do a officer rescue. they put that plan together very quickly, and i think very efficiently. and at some point the suspect engaged officers and was shot and killed. >> reporter: zack was the first one in? >> i don't know who was the first one in. i can't tell you that. >> reporter: you said that the roommate was cooperating with the investigation. can you talk a little bit about how he's helping you and what he's told you? >> all i can say is he met with detectives just a few moments ago and is cooperating with all their questions. >> reporter: you said the suspect engaged with officers at some point. was that -- was he inside the apartment? did he come inside the apartment? >> he engaged them inside the apartment. >> reporter: will there be charges filed against the roommate? >> it's too early for me to
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tell. >> [inaudible] >> i don't have that information yet. we're waiting for search warrants and other issues that we have to go through, and then once we have that, i'll -- we'll have that information. i'll share it, i just don't have that right now. >> reporter: are neighbors allowed back in their homes yet? >> yes. neighbors are allowed except for the immediate location, and i think that we're working with folks that live there to try to get them back into their apartments that are adjacent. >> reporter: again trying to understand those last few minutes, you said it was inside the apartment. apartments generally are not very larges so did your deputies enter the apartment and then the shootout started? what can you tell us about -- >> they had entered the apartment and were having dialogue with him, there was conversation. i don't know what that is until we can look at the body cam, but they were, they were talking to the him and calling out and asking him questions. [inaudible conversations]
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>> yes, and what was that? >> [inaudible] >> yes. he was in a, in an adjacent bedroom. >> reporter: sheriff, you mentioned that law enforcement had been there before, had they been there earlier this morning before that 5:00 call? >> yes, they were, we were there earlier around 1:30 on a noise complaint, but when the officers arrived, there was no noise, and they couldn't find any evidence that there was any kind of issue going on. so they left which, again, happens all the time. >> [inaudible] >> actually not going to take any more questions. we will be putting out a press release shortly. if you have other questions, feel free to contact us, and we'll answer everything we can. >> you go over one more time the names of the officers and which agencies they were with?
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>> yes. mike doyle, douglas county sheriff, taylor davis, douglas county sheriff, and officer tom o'donnell, cat canning rock police department, and then zachary parrish, douglas county sheriff. >> [inaudible] >> pardon me? >> [inaudible] >> p-e-l-l-e. >> the first name of -- [inaudible] >> taylor. yes, ma'am. >> you verify that your officer, castle rock's officer, was he shot outside or -- [inaudible] >> we don't know exactly that information yet until we finish conducting the investigation. and that is, as lauren has said, if you have any further questions, you can try to get what you can off of our press release. we probably will not be doing another -- arthel: okay. we've been listening to a press conference there by tony
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spurlock, he's the douglas county sheriff there. the sad news out of this story is that 29-year-old zachary parrish, douglas county sheriff's deputy, lost his life this morning during gunfire with a suspect who had barricaded himself in an apartment complex there. let me tell you more what we know about zachary parrish. he was 29 years old. he is survived by two young children and a wife. he had just joined the agency seven months ago. the sheriff just said he wasn't sure why such a fine officer left the castle rock police department, but they were happy to have him. they're sad isenned by this tragic -- saddened by this tragic news which began, actually, at 1:30 this morning when a disturbance call for loud noises was placed, and the police responded to this noise complaint. nothing happened. he says that's not unusual. and then again they were called at 5:14 again for a verbal
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disturbance, and that is when sheriff's deputies from the douglas county sheriff's department responded to the call. they apparently went inside of this suspect -- by the way, who was killed in the gunfire by deputies. the deputies entered the suspect's apartment. they began talking to him, calling out, asking questions. he was in an adjacent bedroom, according to the sheriff, and then shots began firing. that is the result, unfortunately, you have five deputies injured, one who was killed, that was 29-year-old zachary parrish. and one of the deputies injured in this shooting is jeff pelle, the son of the boulder county sheriff, joe pelle, who has undergone surgery. we don't have an update on his condition at this point. three other deputies injured in this shooting are in stable condition at nearby hospitals. again, this started at 5:14 this morning there just 15 miles
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south of denver, colorado, at the copper canyon apartments, a domestic disturbance call went in to the sheriff's department and, unfortunately, has ended with one sheriff's deputy, 29 years old, having lost his life and five others injured. this is what we have at point. we'll continue to follow the details as they become available to us here in fox newsroom, at our fox newsroom. in the meanwhile, keep it right here. eric and i will be back live at 4 p.m. eastern with an update, and if there are any warranted updates for you in the meantime, we'll break in to our programming that we will now take you back to which, at the moment, is "fox news sunday." i'm arthel neville in new york city. >> campaign has always said they have nothing to hide, they should let this investigation play out. and they should let it come, come to the end if they really are innocent as they say. i think the american people deserve that. dana: michael, what about the president's point? he say that is the collusion was actually between the russians and the democrats. is that going to go anywhere?
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>> well, i mean, the one thing that we know is that the dnc hired fusion gps which then hired christopher steele to put together this russian dossier, and it relied on at leastwo high ranking members of the kremlin for some of the information in it. so that is the one thing that's come out this year that we know with a reasonable amount of certainty happened, and it was coordination between the dnc through fusion gps with kremlin officials. and so that's -- with all of this we are better off kind of waiting, letting this investigation play out, kind of every month new stuff comes out and trickles out. the american people deserve this investigation. they deserve it to play out fairly, they deserve to know what happened, and we are best served by waiting to get all the facts before we try to kind of interpret each piece along the way. dana: an attack on institutions is not new, this is something we saw certainly during the lewinsky scandal as well. take a look at this sound between two congressmen, rooney and bass. if we could play that. >> i would like to see the
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directors of those agencies purge it and say, look, we've got a lot of great agents, a lot of great lawyers, those are the people who i want the american people to see and know the good works being done. >> the type of purges he's talking about hearkens back to the cold war when there was a purge by mccarthy to find communists that were hidden in the federal government. dana: so, bruce, what i'm wondering about is no matter what mueller decides, have the people already made up their minds that the system is corrupt and they're either going to think that trump did something wad or that he never did anything bad, and is that just the way it's going because it's becoming too politicized? >> well, it's definitely way too politicize ised, and i think you can't say regardless of what is found because facts still matter a lot. but when you and i were talking about this year and my observation that i think 2018 is going to make 2017 seem tame, one of the reasons is we're going to see a war on a potential counsel. we saw it against cox in the
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nixon area, it succeeded against ken starr, it failed against cox. in part, question one is the special counsel and the investigation vulnerable? if you hire people who are democratic donors, which they did, if you have people high up related to people who were in the fbi, there is vulnerability. starr had some vulnerability, cox did not. you have the media, and how's the media playing it. the media was entirely against nixon, entirely for clinton, the media's going to be mixed here because of fox and "the wall street journal" and others, you're going to have media on both sides. allies, you had republican senators in the case of nixon willing to go famously to the white house and say we don't have your back anymore. when bill clinton, it was proven lied under oath and otherwise came out, only joe lieberman was willing to stand up and say, hey, this is wrong. we can't stand for this. i think it's going to be potentially mixed in 2018 and is a lot more supportive because folks like flake and, god forbid, likely senator mccain and others may not be there in
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the senate and corker. and then it comes town to the facts. and -- down to the facts. at the end of the day, if the facts are merely debate about obstruction, i think you're going to have a fight over whether the special counsel ran a fair investigation, whether what they found is a high crime and misdemeanor, and that's not going to be helpful for a lot of the policy we're talking about we'd like to see and will certainly roil the elections. dana: mo, do the democrats -- have they ceded too much ground on policy while they focused on russia, and is there a vulnerability there if they have a litmus test to call for impeachment such as tom steyer has recommended? >> to the latter question, yes. i don't think democrats should be pursuing all impeachment strategy, and i think that can be incredibly counterproductive at this point, especially at this point. now, if the investigation plays out and we get a lot more information that starts pointing towards the direction of high crimes and misdemeanors, then let's have that conversation. but at this point, i think
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putting all your eggs in that basket is incredibly dangerous. i would, i think challenge the premise of the first part of your question. i don't think they are doing that. i think there are some democrats out there who are doing that, but you look at what's going on in the senate, there are a lot of democrats in the senate who are standing firm and trying to challenge this administration on policy issues whether it was trying to repeal the aca, whether it was trying -- whether this most recent tax fight. so democrats are having the policy debates while also trying to keep the appropriate focus on the investigation. and people like mark warner in the senate who's leading that charge over there. dana: yeah. >> in, i think, the appropriate manner. dame deign marie, what about looking forward, and, michael, i want you to comment on this too. the integrity of elections and the alleged interference or the attempted interference by foreign powers trying to nuance our elections. is the united states doing enough to try to prevent that from happening in 2018 or 2020?
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>> i don't think we are. and part of that is because for president trump i think it's hard for him to separate out the idea that foreign powers are trying to meddle in our systems from the collusion investigation. there was a story this week that state election boards are going to have to wait up to nine months, almost til the election, to have dhs scan their systems with their most exhaustive security screening. i don't think the administration is taking seriously preventing it from happening in the future because it gets clouded with this issue of collusion that they see as unfair. we should absolutely be doing more, and i think that 2018 and 2020, they need to focus on that. dana: michael, last word. >> yeah, look, elections are part of our critical infrastructure, they should be defended. the russians spent $54 on facebook ads in wisconsin. that's neglecting wisconsin even worse than hillary clinton. [laughter] so donald trump won this election because he tapped into what the american people felt, he tapped into real emotions, and that's the lesson that should be learned from this.
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dana: best quote of 2017. [laughter] it was right here on "fox news sunday." it's time for a quick break. when we return, 2017 was a year of natural disasters from hurricanes in the atlantic to deadly fires in the west. we'll check in on those recovery efforts with the panel next. ♪ ♪
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>> the team is going to come over e with the efforts to rebuild. >> we can be the generation that ends the opioid epidemic. dana: that's a look back at some of the big stories of 2017 that will have an impact in the new year. and we're back now with some bonus time with the panel. mo, let me start with you. want to ask you about the president and charlottesville, because that seemed to be this big, seminal moment of the year, and is that continuing to drive the frustration, the disapproval of the president from democrats mostly? >> i think it's a big part of it. i think it was one of the greatest missed opportunities of this administration. the way the president failed the seize the opportunity to unite country against hate, against
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racism, against white nationalism and allowed himself -- whether it was in his heart or just rhetorical blundering -- allowed himself to appear to the white nationalists, to the racists as their champion was a huge, hugely problematic thing that i think set the tone. and any hope he had of reconciling with a huge portion of the electorate, i think, ended right there. dana: and yet, michael, the president did seem to have his finger on the pulse of how people felt about the protests of the anthem at the nfl, and he really trove -- drove that home as a cultural issue. >> yeah, he did. this is a nation that's having a civic breaking apart, and it's bad for the country. it's indefensible that we can't as a nation agree that it's unacceptable for people in inner cities not to feel like the police can be there for them. it's also unacceptable that cops
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feel they have to go out on the street and if they make the wrong decision in a split second, they could be tarred a racist. we need to find a way as a nation to come together, and there's no doubt that the president has not healed in some of those ways, there's no doubt that barack obama missed opportunities. i mean, lighting up the white house in a rainbow flag the day that something that was deeply disturbing to half of the country happened at the supreme court was not something that brought people together. we need to step back and figure out as a country how do we unite, how do we have the civic reawakening that this nation has had in the? deign -- in the past? dana: the pew study said our civics education is a disaster. we've got to get on that in 2018. i do want to talk about an issue that's certainly on a lot of people's minds and hearts, and that's the opioid crisis. a person dying every 16 minutes from an opiate overdose, that's what mixes this an end -- makes this an epidemic.
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we also want to connect people to treatment, we don't want to keep resuscitating them. we want to have bridges to treatment. also as a nation's doctor, i think it's important we address prescribing alternatives to opiates for pain management. bruce, the number of people dying from overdoses has contributed to the fact that our life expectancy in the united states for the second year in a row has declined. is america starting to come to grips with the scope and scale of the opiate epidemic? >> i think americans are. the question is, are policy leaders likewise doing it and playing their role? there's a lot of debate about the proper parole of government, and i think there's -- role of government. and i think we need to regulate adequately so there's not sub instants out there without people and doctors understanding what they do and what the risks are. there's a lot of relief that and needs to happen. that's one of the bright spots with senator portman, and i think senator klobuchar, put
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legislation together to try to help deal with the opioid crisis. there's more bipartisan opportunities there. that's one of the rare issues i think any democrat would work with president trump on. dana: also, marie, a lot of the new opiate problem is coming from across the border or overseas, and it's synthetic fentanyl or others. do you think whether it's the cia, atf, dea, is that needing to have more mobilized to deal with that problem? >> absolutely. we need a whole of government approach here. when 91 americans are dying every day, fentanyl, as you said, is so addictive that even first responders are having to be very careful when they're handling it. we need a whole of government approach led by the white house, led by the surgeon general, led by scientists and, yes, by a bipartisan congressional effort to get funding for treatment, real long-term treatment because we know this is a, you know, addicts need a long time in recovery and treatment. we need more first responders having the overdose antidote
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that isn't a solution, but it helps keep people alive. and is we need prevention, and we need all of those things. they all require money, they require time, they require focus. and during an election year, it's hard to lose all of those things. but for the sake of our country's health, we have to stay focused on it, we absolutely do. dana: the president's speech in the east room that day at the white house where he talked about even his personal experience, you know, losing his brother to addiction, was very powerful. one of his most powerful moments, and, of course, we can't leave without mentioning hurricanes harvey, irma and maria and, of course, the mass shootings in las vegas. and, of course, we still have citizens in puerto rico to who are trying to recover from the hurricane. in all of these things though, there were moments where you realized that humanity still exists in 2017 and that there is hope and happening that can be done -- hope and healing that can be done. >> no, that's right.
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my most optimistic moment in 2017 was in the wake of hurricanes that ravaged texas and how we all came together to support those communities. the federal government did what it needed to do, state government did what it needed to do, humanitarian efforts did what they needed to do, and we all came together. breaks my heart a little bit that we're not seeing that same kind of rallying around the people of puerto rico who are still ravaged months later. they deserve so much better from their government and from the rest of us. dana: well, it's been wonderful to have all of you here and to end 2017 and begin 2018, i wish you all very well. thank you so much. that's it from us for today. from all of us, a very, very happy new year to you. i will see you next week for the daily briefing, 2 p.m. eastern, on the fox news channel, and your very own, your favorite, chris wallace will see you next "fox news sunday is." ♪ ♪
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paul: welcome to this special edition of "the journal editorial report" as we look back on the highs and lows of president trump's first year in office and ahead to the challenges that await him in 2018. i'm paul gigot, and we begin this weekç with a look back at the president's first year from the rocky rollout of the travel ban to the triumphant passage of his historic tax overhaul. here with a look at his accomplishments and setbacks is columnist and deputy editor of the "wall street journal" dan henninger, columnist kim strassel and assistant editorial page editor james freeman. all right, dan, let'st


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