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dr. joseph tweets... and finally, linda stone says... that is all the time we have tonight. i like the last one. shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team will take thing from here. mace shannon. >> shannon: the roll tide, they broke my seminoles hearts. congrats to you guys on winning it all and a good day at the white house. thanks, laura. i am shannon bream in washingto washington. we begin with a fox news alert. it's unclear what the president and pentagon want to do about terry. a powerful fleet is expected to deploy shortly but tonight we are watching the skies over the middle east, as european air traffic control agencies warns airlines around the world, a possible muscle strike into syria. we don't know how they came across this specificity but came check it out for you due to the
possible launch of air strikes into syria, with air to ground and/or cruise missiles within the next 72 hours, and the possibility of intermittent destruction of radio navigation equipment, due consideration needs to be considered when planning flight operations. also tonight, ed henry keeping an eye on the white house of our claims the president has reached his limit with special counsel robert mueller and deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. first, let's go to kristin fisher at, as the world waits and watches for the white house response to the chemical attack in syria. good evening. speak about president trump and the secretary of defense have canceled big plans to be away this weekend. on top of that, what you were just talking about, shannon, eurocontrol, essentially the air traffic control for europe, it issued that alert warning airlines of possible air strikes into syria sometime over the next 72 hours. when you add it all up, it is looking very likely that if the
u.s. and its allies retaliate, it will likely be near the end of this week. the last time president trump responded to the syrian president's use of chemical weapons, it led to 59 tomahawk missiles being launched from two major destroyers. now almost exactly a year later, even more warships, armed with even more missiles, our arm to the region. tomorrow, they will be setting sail for norfork and has mediterranean. it's part of a prescheduled appointment but it could be within striking range of syria in about a week. joining the truman are seven warships capable of firing hundreds of tomahawk cruise missiles. there are significant firepower headed to the region. at the same time, a coalition is balding to determine what to do with at. >> we are working with our partners and our national security team to look at all options. >> those allies include french
president emmanuel macron and british prime minister theresa may. >> these attacks that took place in syria is a barbaric attack. obviously, we are working urgently with our allies and partners to assess what has happened on the ground. we believe that those responsible should be held to account. speak of the u.s. and its allies are working to confirm that chemical weapons were in fact used. today, the press secretary said that the white house has confidence in its declaration that it was indeed a chemical attack. as for how exactly president trump will respond, all she would say is that all options continue to be on the table. >> i'm not going to get ahead of anything the president may or may not do in response to what has taken place in syria. >> tonight, some very harsh words from the u.s. ambassadors, after russia vetoed a u.s. draft resolution which would have establish and independent investigation into the use of chemical weapons in syria. accusing rush of "protecting a monster and trashing the credibility of the council."
shannon? >> shannon: kristin fisher, thank you very much. as a strike at midnight tonight? what were the longer-term implications be? oliver north and new york republican congressman, great to have both of you with us tonigh tonight. appellee, the president is in conversations, domestically with the domestic allies. let's talk about in the region, many folks think we need air partners in this. the director of the allison center for foreign policy at heritage says, "i think it would be worth the dip of medic legwork that it would require. a very strong message if arab countries cooperated." >> it is so important for us to see these countries, which are actually quite wealthy, whether it is -- jordan has been involved with what is been going on in syria to a certain extent, israel has been involved. as far as these other arab countries that exist in the
region, it is imperative. they are concerned about iranian aggression. this is the moment to push back. if you don't push back now, it will get worse. >> shannon: colonel, if you are suggesting potential options to the administration from a military in nature, what would you suggest? >> first of all, you have to get enough assets in the region. they are not there yet. i was sitting in a planning cell 32 years ago tonight, picking targets in libya because on the fifth of april, more market off he had detonated a bomb at a discotheque in west germany. it took ten days to get the assets in place to make all the arrangements. if you are going to use more than just a handful of aircraft, you have to place -- have to have places to recover, refuel, search and rescue assets in place. i think it is -- a lot of people thinking it could happen tonight, i just couldn't imagin
imagine. >> shannon: how important is turkey? >> turkey is very important. it has closed a nato air base. he is not a threat. he doesn't particular care for the assad regime but on the other hand, he doesn't care much for us because he has not been helping us much at all. at the end of the day, you have to have a covered base because you can't a land aircraft. israel can be very helpful in terms of search and rescue. it takes time to place those assets in position so that they can be recovered. >> shannon: on capitol hill there's been discussion, we talked about last night, senator mike lee saying if there is going to be a robust military response, the president needs to come to congress for that. in the meantime, democratic senator richard blumenthal talking about what kind of assets we need to have, what kind of reaction we need to have, who needs to be held responsible. here's what he says.
>> there has to be robust reaction and action, not just words. the response has to have military components. bashar al-assad, it all starts to send a message to his enablers. >> shannon: it has to send a message to his enablers. the president called outputted by name, called out to iran as well. where do we go from there? >> we have all these different countries, approaches. within syria, you could be targeting command-and-control, infrastructure, personnel, it may not just be syrian. it may be iranian. there may be ways to deliver the chemical weapon, maybe it is part of their air force, or part of their infrastructure, how they are able to carry out the chemical attack. with iran, the future of the nuclear deal, the effort to ramp up sanctions, that is what brought the iranians to the table in the first place, when
you set a negotiation take place during president obama's term. same thing with russia, talking about sanctions and what leverage we have. there's a debate at the u.n. security council. that will continue. ambassador haley can't, countering the narrative that the russians and others are trying to put out. all of those needs to take place. what we saw a year ago, i expect to see that again. i do expect there to be a strike. i don't think it is just going to be that. last time it was just us, now we are seeing britain and the french. i think there will be more of a coalition. i think it is going to be us utilizing multiple leverages of the dying principle of the principle of economics. i look forward to it being effective. >> shannon: quickly, and he gets on a timeline? >> i would say probably a little bit more than 72 hours. i really don't know. i know we where certain assets are in the air moving in the right direction. it took ronald reagan ten days to make a decision on the seventh of april for the attack on tax day. i would look around for tax day
or later. >> shannon: gentlemen, great to see both of you tonight. congressional leaders are warning the president against firing special consul robert mueller or deputy attorney general rod rosenstein rod rosenstein. chief national correspondent ed henry following the very latest for us from the white house. >> good to see you. a lot of news breaking for us in a special counsel investigation is president trump lot that his. he was dining at the white house tonight with his personal attorney jay sekulow as well as alan dershowitz. alan dershowitz says they were talking mitty's policy but he has also called mueller apolitical zealot in charge of the justice department, already violated michael cohen michael cohen's constitutional right by raiding his homes in office. his perspective meshing with the anger the president expressed last night. the president saying it was disgusting that cohen had faced those raids. two's distinct tweets that said much the same, far fewer words.
attorney-client privilege is dead, he tweeted. then added a total witch untied. tonight, cnn reporting a president is considering whether to fire deputy attorney general rod rosenstein, who has given mueller wide latitude, and when apparently he came to rosenstein, the deputy attorney general authorize the fbi and the u.s. attorney in the southern district of new york to move forward with those grades. firing rosenstein could have in the mueller probe without ending it. "the new york times" is reporting that the president saw two fires beef -- sought to fie mueller in december. after those stories were corrected, the president calmed down, because it was a second time the president allegedly pushed to fire mueller. today, a shift from sarah sanders, who at the white house podium has previously said the president has neither the intention to fire mueller, nor was thinking about it. for the first time, she would not issue a denial today. as alan dershowitz lashed out at
the cohen raid. >> this is a very dangerous day today for lawyer-client relations. if this were the shoe on the other foot, if this were hillary clinton being investigated anyone into her lawyers' office, the aclu would be on every television station in america jumping up and down. >> sarah sanders asserted the president does have the power to fire mueller. chuck schumer insisted that the president cannot remove mueller because of attorney general jeff sessions recusal, instead, rod rosenstein has the power, which is why he appears to be the man on the hot seat tonight. >> shannon: ed henry, thank you very much. one day after ambassador john bolton took over as the new national security advisor, tom bossert, homeland security divisor, announced his resignation. he's garnered bipartisan praise for his role in the administration's response to hurricane harvey, which ravaged houston. he is the latest departure. joining a growing list of high-profile resignations and firings this year.
>> for the president's top advisors to be turning over in this way indicates a profound fusion, even chaos. it must be mystifying and deeply troubling to our allies. >> i thought tom did a great job but everybody deserves their day. >> shannon: a white house source told fox news that has resignation was the result of bolton's cleaning house at the national security council. the source also said that bolton may merge the national security council and the homeland security council, which now function separately but do share staffs. we will check in with chris stirewalt on the mueller probe, plus facebook grilled on capitol hill. mark zuckerberg sitting through hours of questioning about privacy issues. and some unusual questions today. >> do social media companies hire consulting firms to help them figure out how to get more
dopamine feedback loops so that people don't want to leave the platform? >> no, senator . >> shannon: after complaints about the doj slow rolling congress, will the house judiciary committee finally get the unmasking documents that and answers it wants? a u.s. attorney is overseeing the fight for their release. >> it's very clear that my direction is to make sure we get the documents produced as quickly as we can. we do so completely, under the law, we do so with integrity, professionalism. >> shannon: the verdicts are in him just as neil gorsuch's first year on the supreme court. how his vote could not impact the landmark decisions we are awaiting from the high court tonight. ♪ experience the 2018 lexus nx and the nx hybrid. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.
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>> shannon: facebook ceo mark zuckerberg spent hours on capitol hill today taking questions from senators about facebook's role in the 2016 election but also on illegal immigration and possibly brainwashing your teens. mike emanuel staying up late with us tonight, telling us what it's about. >> good evening to you, shannon. many questions about privacy and mark zuckerberg was quick to apologize for facebook's blunders. he testified for about five hours before a joint senate hearing in front of the judiciary and congress panels before it dropped earlier this evening.
a democrat pushed him late in the day on his whether facebook would cooperate with federal authorities on immigration related issues. >> if you are asked to provide or cooperate with i.c.e. so that they could determine whether somebody is going to commit a crime for example or become fruitful members of our society, would you cooperate? >> we would not proactively do that. when law enforcement reaches out to us with a valid legal subpoena or request for data, in those cases, if their request is overly broad, we will push back aggressively. >> this was a big scene on capitol hill, tons of media with the ceo of a social media concept with billy as billionsf subscribers. they praised zuckerberg for the facebook success story, starting all of it in his dorm room. >> only in america, would you agree with that? you couldn't do this and trying
to right? what you did. >> senator, there are some very strong chinese internet companies. >> you are supposed to answer yes to this question. [laughter] >> partisan concern late in the day about children, the privacy rights of children, and about whether young people are getting basically brainwashed by facebook. >> do social media companies hire consulting firms to help them figure out how to get more dopamine feedback loops, so that people don't want to leave the platform? >> no, senator. that is not how we talk about this or how we set up our product. >> we need a law to protect those children. that is my question. do you believe we need a law to do so? yes or no? >> senator, i'm not sure if we need a law but i think that this is certainly a thing that deserves a lot of discussion. >> i couldn't disagree with you more. >> a number of unusual questions today but not a lot of fireworks. zuckerberg is not in the clear
just yet. he is due back on the house side of the capital for what promises to be another marathon hearing. shannon? >> shannon: i bet he cannot wait. mike emanuel come alive on the hill, thank you. we are back to one of our top stories, the fbi raids on the president's personal attorney. do they have anything to do with pressure collusion? why the left keeps saying the president is about to fire the special counsel, despite the white houses repeated comments to the contrary. editor of the halftime report, chris stirewalt joins us now. >> it may be the last thing because the president said he might. it's possible that the president, and a public setting, in front of cameras, said that he might greatest be when i thought it was interesting when he said last night, he was really on a roll, when he was talking about going into the syrian meeting with his generals, asked about it, he didn't say he was or wasn't going to -- >> he entertained. >> shannon: that showed restraint i thought.
>> [laughs] >> shannon: then he said he's making a phone call. >> i think he knows what newt gingrich and other people have told him and have said publicly, which is you do that, you make the move, remember, he can't fire mueller. >> shannon: he thinks he can. the white house said today they believe he is within that authority. >> i think i can still fit into a 48 long jacket but that is not going to happen. the president can fire the deputy attorney general if the deputy attorney general does not meet the president's commandment to -- >> shannon: rod rosenstein. >> he can order rosenstein to fire mueller and a process to" rather than do it, then the president would have to go through the ranks of the justice department to find someone who would do it. i think newt gingrich is very much on the money in terms of the political consequences. you just shatter the republican party. you take a party that right now, if we were to lay aside the
massive, almost insane level of fixation on this stuff, because remember, we have no idea what michael cohen did or was said to have done or anything. >> shannon: this may be completely about stormy daniels and metal situation. it may have nothing to do with russia. >> or something unrelated. we have no idea. everyone is shadowboxing pretending like they know. nobody knows. we have this, this giant kerfuffle, they make a kerfuffle of all time. taking place around us. if we look at the lodgers for the republicans, the president's approval numbers have nudged back up, there are republicans , their map is expending for the senate, they have a chance to make it through this midterm. going to be tough to keep the house but they can expand their majority in the senate conceivably. they have all of this over here. if the president starts firing people at the justice department to shield himself from a criminal probe, all the good for republicans right now goes away. >> shannon: there are numbers to prove this. the quinnipiac poll, 69% versus
13% to say, no, do not fire mueller. that is a huge thread, 55% of republicans say no, we should not fire mueller, 22% say yes, 23 percent don't know. that gets the appointive republicans thinking let's not stir up the wasp's nest. >> there are two groups of identified that seem to want the president to fire -- to get mueller fired. those are a lot of journalists who would love to cover this and i would also include in the same, democrats who think it would harm him. then there's this other set of people who believe that the president is in mortal peril, somehow everything is about to come crashing down and mueller will do all of that. if they would like the president so much, why do they think he is so guilty? why do they think that he is facing so much exposure on this? i can't imagine -- firing mueller's option a, bad. that is the big one, then there's another one after that, which is refusing to cooperate,
digging in his heels, fighting his way through this, every american should want mueller to expeditiously and quickly finish this work. we have more important things to do in the country then play out these dramas every night. >> shannon: including the president, which people close to him -- she's always maintained his innocence. let's just let this play out. you could cleared and move on. we shall see. the white house saying he's not getting fired. with that -- >> it's only tuesday. >> shannon: thank you, chris stirewalt by the president's top economic advisor says the congressional budget office has it wrong when it coms to estimates about future federal deficit. >> our view as you know is lower tax rates, particularly business, create incentives to invest and work. i think we will pick up productivity and wages. that gives you a entirely different baseline. >> shannon: congressional budget office says the combined effect of the tax cut bill will cut the deficit and predicts a
20 trillion deficit by 2020. larry kudlow said china may have "blinked three times" in offering trade concessions. china's president promised to cut auto tariffs in the move trying to defuse escalating trade tensions. president trump predicting on twitter today that the two core countries will "make great progress together." governors of three border states ascending national guard troops to the southern border but what about california? governor jerry brown has been uncharacteristically quiet. if he refuses, code president trump force troops to the california border? >> if he nationalizes folks from the california national guard, they would be -- he could do that without the consent of the governor. >> shannon: at our democratic candidates defying their own party on the i word when it comes to president trump? when we return. ♪ advil is relief that's fast
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>> shannon: members of the national guard in arizona, new mexico, and texas have already begun arriving at our southern border. for the president's request. leaving california, where democratic governor jerry brown, nothing is happening yet. trace gallagher is tracking it yet. hey cut my trace. think of this scenario has played out before in california where then governor alan schwarzenegger was asked by president bush in 2006 and obama in 2010 to send the california guard to the border. he took two weeks to decide. in this case, governor jerry brown is battling with the trump administration over the sanctuary laws and for his recent pardon of five criminal illegal immigrants facing deportation. as for whether brown plans to send the card to the border, his offers will only say he's considering it, though he has had a number of conversations with homeland security kirstjen nielsen.
the governors of arizona, texas, and mexico have already said a combined 1600 guard members will be deployed to the southern border, with arizona governor doug ducey saying that it's not a "partisan issue or an identity issue, it's about lovee lawlessness around the border." if governor brown said no, he is well within his legal north authority, though president trump could nationalize the california guard. ohio g.o.p. congressman steve sieber said he doesn't think it will come to that. watch. >> with almost half a million folks in the national guard across the country, the easier thing to do is to work with states who are willing to serve and to send their soldiers to the border. that is probably the most likely course of action. >> president trump says he wants to use troops at the border until progress is made on the border wall and defense secretary james mattis has
approved paying for 4,000 national guard personnel from the pentagon budget through september. remember, the guard is not there to apprehend illegal immigrants, but rather to support the border patrol and things like aviation, surveillance, and logistics. customs and border protection's it says the of border apprehensions this month was up more than 200% from last march. shannon? >> shannon: trace gallagher live on the west coast. thank you very much for your time now for your real news roundup. democratic party elders like former president obama's chief strategist david axelrod have a strong warming at the party search the left ahead of the right terms. do not commit to impeachment. democratic senate candidates like congressman beto o'rourke raising lots of money in his challenge to republican incumbent ted cruz don't appear to be listening. he was just asked on a radio station if he supports impeaching president trump. here's his answer. >> the answer is yes. i don't think that
president trump has the fitness or confidence competence or jue in that position. >> shannon: if he wins the senate seat, and on the house had come a minority leader nancy pelosi becomes a speaker again, she knows she will have an ally for conviction of the house and peaches the president. meanwhile, pelosi, democrat from california, is getting two pinocchio some of "the washington post" fact-checker tonight. the post finding fault with her claim last week that 86 million middle-class families will see a tax hike under g.o.p. led tax reform. that claim is misleading, said "the post," 80% of taxpayers are expected to get a tax cut, just 5% a tax hike. that is according to the nonpartisan and left-leaning tax policy center. the harvard crimson reporting tonight university school of public health plans to interview faculty interview faculty anonymously flagged for micro aggressions. the faculty is being targeted thanks to its student questionnaire if they have
experienced any verbal or nonverbal insults that targeted an identity group. the formalists, age or disability, gender, immigrationl views, race, ethnicity, orientation, and socioeconomic classes as examples of identity groups. it is the latest move in what has been seen as a highly contentious process by the federal prosecutor from chicago now in charge of turning over subpoena justice department documents to congressional committee, waiting and waiting as they investigate alleged bias against president trump. will the g.o.p. finally get answers? we'll break it down with our panel. president trump's executive order aimed at putting more folks to work and getting them off the welfare role. that story coming up. $15.99 for a limited time. get a 6oz sirloin and make it your own with a choice of honey sriracha, barbecue, or dry rub ribs. so hurry in to outback now.
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out of there. the additional folks that have been added is going to be helpful. >> shannon: let's bring tonight's panel. fox news contributor and radio host richard fowler. host of the fox news radio show, fox news contributor by mike guy benson. and all of you are radio hosts. there was a lot of black backl, from trey gowdy, what has been happening in the month since we are at risk? >> classic bureaucratic response. the failure of government leads to more government. the failure of bureaucracy leads to more bureaucracy. they are not getting the job done, added another layer of government to make sure the job gets done. we had to bring in a guy from the midwest who will bring a little common sense to this dance here in washington, d.c. try to get them to turn over unredacted documents to the
congress, this has become absurd of course. i feel sorry for the guy, now he's going to be crushed in the midst of the tectonic plates that are shifting around in washington, d.c. if he is successful, i don't think you'll get a lot of credit for it, if he is not, he'll be the goat. >> shannon: a lot of people come to washington and realize it's a tough place to survive and navigate. >> it's better late than never in my view. it's the job of congress to oversee the executive branch and executive agencies in many cases by the fact they are trying to get documents and are unable to do so month after month is deeply frustrating. this guy is a trump appointee, a good reputation in the private sector and public sector. he is coming in, saying this is my entire job, streamlining the process, getting these requests fulfilled. i would prefer to have that than the status quo going on and on with nothing getting accomplished. again, may not be an ideal solution but i think it's better than what was previously the case.
>> kind of embarrassing. >> shannon: richard, one of the complaints that congress has is these things are leaking out. we can't get a look at them but they are leaking out in the media and other places, like, why can't you speed this up, if you can link it to the media, why can't we see it? >> i think that's part of the problem. we've had a leakapalooza. problem number one. problem number two, we haven't seen any resolution to the fact that we have a problem with fisa courts generally speaking. a problem since their creation. democrats have complained and moaned about how fisa courts are an implosion of due process in this country, republicans have joined us to say that fisa courts are indeed a problem because there is no representation for the people that are getting these warrants, and now we hope will become a congressman to get these documents, maybe we'll pass some laws to fix this unbalanced court. that is the largest problem we have around fisa courts which is how we got here in the first place. >> shannon: meanwhile, a way that a lot of people get documents, if you are lucky
enough, is through the freedom of information act. we are hearing something from the american center for law and justice, they had months ago, maybe more than a year ago, asked about unmasking requests within the obama administration on the trump administration and they said they found a number of things from the u.n. ambassador samantha power, that -- they report to 200 unmasking request requests, part of what they had to say about the materials that they've gotten. they say the same top level obama administration official is reported to have made 260 unmasking requests, seeking information about the president, communications and as she consoled over the election results, closer to the mainstream media, and actively sought out ways to undermined e the new administration. >> there are a lot of things that are very odd about this
story. these multiple hundreds, apparently come of requests came between november and january. that is a very short. lack of time in between the two administrations, during this transition process. apparently, to undermined in some cases the incoming administration. i think if nikki haley, the u.s. ambassador under trump, were doing something similar about it and coming democratic administration, they would be some hot questions asked about the left. it's also strange that ms. power's a position was that of the u.s. ambassadors seeking unmasking. bottom line is, the ig, inspector general from the doj, is looking into this. there's also a federal prosecutor looking into this based in utah as well. we do need to get to the bottom of some of these questions and find out where these unmasking's unusual? it seems like they are. were they inappropriate? we don't know that yet. there are enough strange smells about this that merit further.
>> shannon: richard, you first. >> i agree with you in a little bit, there is this whole idea coming from the u.n. that it's weird but every white house operates differently. we are not role samantha power played. was she more than ambassador? we are also not sure if the unmasking was the same person. until we know who was unmasked -- remember, all unmasking means is that there was an intelligence report, there was an american that was him as a diligence report, samantha power asked the person to be revealed. they could have been the same person, we know for fact that there was individuals who have now pled guilty for lying to the fbi who were engaging in bad behavior in this transition. mack, flynn. >> shannon: it's for lying about it. >> we also cover the people working with experts --
we don't know what the underlying evidence is and we don't know -- >> you are saying that the special prosecutor? >> making a lot of assumptions assumptions -- >> the assumption that you are making is that she is unmasking -- >> you are operating under the assumption that she is operating under bad behavior. >> let's find out, shall be? >> i'm for that. >> also, the communications that she was bouncing back makes it clear she was extremely upset about the incoming administration. we have no evidence she was asking for unmasking's before the election. suddenly there is a flurry of activity and it's very anomalous. >> shannon: folks who got their hands on this say there is so much redacted, they continue, they plan to go to court to fight more. maybe we'll get more information. we can all debated again. thank you, gentlemen. celebrating an anniversary, scoring just as neil gorsuch's
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and roughly 60 votes so far, he has been clearly aligned with clarence thomas. three big decisions await. gerrymandering, the trump travel ban, religious liberty, masterpiece cake shop, many others. union dues, all kinds of things. how do his critics and supporters viewed addresses his first year? last asked chief counsel carrie severino and elizabeth elizabe. "unfortunately, justice gorsuch has fulfilled most of our expectations by taking from residence on the extreme right wing shown willingness to hold president trump's travel ban and against the rights of lgbtq plaintiffs." >> a lot of those decisions were
not shocking. with a travel ban, it was unanimously agreed to across the court. what we have seen, in the most cases, a large number of them are in fact unanimous. i think he's been amazing on the court because he's gone back to some of those same themes we saw during his confirmation hearings of, let's be faithful to the text of the law, let's stick with the constitution and make sure we are going back to that. he's called the court back to that in several cases, and his opinions and oral arguments. i think it is been great because what you saw during the confirmation hearing, and what everyone was impressed with, is what you have got, very faithful to his oath. >> shannon: that is what leonard leo, instrumental in suggesting and getting him on the white house radar, clearly, he is executive vp of the federal society, "he's been a very worthy successor, referring to justice scalia, i think trust as neil gorsuch has proven to be everything the president had dissipated." elizabeth, depending on whether you on the left or right, that's a good or bad thing.
he is what people expected. >> that remains to be seen. he talked a lot about judicial minimalism, respecting state legislatures and the decisions of congress when it comes to the role of the judge, not to bring a politician and a robe. here we have had potentially striking down about half of the states ways of the interact with the public sector employees in the union case. in the masterpiece cake shop case, there are a number of states that have decided that they don't want to allow businesses to discriminate against gay and lesbian couples. we'll see if he wants to be the judicial minimalist. what i'm looking forward to in the big cases that are yet to come down, is how he rules on the actual merits of the trump travel ban. >> shannon: version 3.0. >> the last day of arguments.
he claims he would be an independent check on the president, even on the president is the one who put him on the bench. we'll see whether he will rubber-stamp trump discriminatory travel ban or actually, in my opinion, follow the constitution and the law where it leads, which is to say that it's unlawful. >> shannon: carrie, the court has a lot, we all know, over the last few years, put a check on executive power in a number of cases. where did they go on the travel ban? where do you see justice gorsuch fall in that vote? >> when you look at the merits of the order as it stands, this one is even stronger position than the previous iterations of the travel ban. the national security issue is an area where the president and executive has its strongest power. i think it is not just just as gorgeous as -- justice gorsuch. president trump or not, the president has strong authority and national security realms and what they have done or not --
this is not a broad ban on just one religion for example. >> shannon: i want to ask you quickly about this union. public-sector employees. in this case, teachers, whether they could be forced to pay union dues and fees when they disagree with the politics of what the union is doing. they can have a huge impact. he did not say one word during this case. he's been a very active questionnaire. what does that say to you, that he was in a tipping his hand at all? >> that was very interesting. in that case, constitutional -- as a matter of federalism, you should allow the states to have arrangements with public-sector unions that require the small fair share fee to cover the amount of collective bargaining that goes to safer workplace conditions, that our pay and hours et cetera, and that is really a fair arrangement. as a matter of federalism, the supreme court, when there is no
good reason the first amendment, should let it stand. we'll see whether he's a federalist, minimalist, all of that. >> shannon: i see a twinkle in the eye over there. you can be multiple things. >> and when there is no good reason, compelled speech, it forcing people to subsidize speech they disagree with. when you're talking about a public employee union, everything from the payment, to requirement plan, the same thing people are running on. safe workplaces should not be a political issue. >> shannon: it will be a very busy next few weeks of the court. great to see you both. thanks for coming in. more news right after this. ♪ yeah, my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. what?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. ♪ ♪ ♪ raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens ♪
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