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>> bernard: it's sunny in new york. it's sunny and 65 degrees. tomorrow's going to be 75 degrees. we are going to join the enjoye hill out of it. stay strong, president trump. >> sandra: "outnumbered: overtime" with melissa starts right now. >> melissa: president trump blasting james comey's tell-all. this is "outnumbered: overtime," i am melissa francis in today for harris faulkner. depicting the president "unethical and untethered to the truth." the president trump tweeted... using classifying information for which you should be prosecuted. he lied to congress under oath. among the claims in the book, whom he likens the president
to -- "i once again was having flashbacks to my earlier career as a prosecutor against the mob." the u.s. or the us versus them worldview. the lying about all things large and small. the put the organization above morality and above the truth. white house correspondent kevin corke joins us now. no shortage of news, my friend. >> what a crazy morning. when those tweets came out, we were all saying "i wonder what this day is going to be like." white house officials are looking at it this way, they are saying this guy is not under oath. he's out here trying to sell a book. he's intentionally wanting to be provocative but the president himself is not taking this with a grain of salt. no, he's a bit less measured than that. let me share something else the
commander-in-chief had to say about the former fbi director. he calls him an untruthful slimeball. who was, as time is proven, a terrible director of the fbi. his handling of the crooked hillary clinton case and the events surrounding it will go down as one of the worst "botch jobs" of history. it was my great honor to fire james comey." wow. the book is called "higher loyalty." you pointed out, he calls the president "untethered to the truth, has never recoiled from causing another person pain." she likened him to being a mob boss. as for james comey's view, look, these are the words of a man who is a patriot and lifelong public servant but there are some white house officials who are, let's just say...
questioning his recollection. >> he's a psychoanalyst, giving advice on how people look. he's a marriage counselor. i find that particular excerpt and be really egregious and over-the-top and i hope people of all political stripes, including those who did not like james comey in late october 2016 to really push back on it. >> i expect we will hear more about this topic this afternoon. you don't think that will happen, do you, melissa? >> melissa: i don't think anyone's going to ask about it. i think it will go right by. >> just another friday. >> melissa: for more reaction, our first guest, former utah congressman and fox news contributor, jason chaffetz. is this what you expected? >> i have not read the whole book. from the experts i've seen, the discontent or the disconnection with loretta
lynch. to go so far as to suggest they weren't on the same page, but there were real problems with the objectivity of the attorney general herself and her proximity to hillary clinton, they went through extraordinary actions. there are no bombshells but that would be the biggest thing i've seen so far. the other stuff is just petty. based of what he said. but loretta lynch, that's a whole different story. >> melissa: i know a know a lot of people would like to see the president impeached. there are a lot of bombshells. if there were something of that nature that would even lead a trail towards impeachment, would it be appropriate to reveal it in a book or as a law enforcement official, would he have the duty to bring that to law enforcement authorities? >> he had multiple opportunities in front of congress paired that's why you have -- i don't
know how many hours, none of these type of things really surfaced. it does question how honest he was. remember when senator grassley asked him very specifically, were you party to leaking of information? the answer was yes but he said no. when john roche asked him to exonerate hillary clinton, he said it with after his interview but all of the notes and details actually suggest no, he had been working on it for months. the biggest thing america should read and pay attention to will be the inspector general report. that's two weeks out, as far as i can tell. >> melissa: if you are looking up what that tells you about james comey, one thing i've seen so far they cost me the most pause was where he said when he was going out and talking about the emails they came out on anthony weiner's laptop, he said he was operating under the assumption, like everyone else around him, that hillary clinton
was going to be the next president and he was worried about not wanting her presidency to be illegitimate. if the calls have been closer or donald trump had been ahead, he said he might have acted differently. i don't know. the idea that he's making law enforcement decisions based on a false notion of how a political election is going to come out, is not flying in the face of what he supposed to be doing as a law enforcement official? >> melissa, you've hit it right on the head. to do it the way he did it was absolutely wrong. every single democrat was going to fire james comey the moment they could possibly do it. because they felt he meddled in the election. i think democrats have a point that he did not do the same thing about donald trump, whom they were looking at, the democrats have a valid point. washington, d.c., on both sides of the aisle did not like director comey and there's not a
single person that would have reconfirmed him. he was playing politics. to suggest they would review hundreds of thousands of emails and a few hours, which ended up being a couple of days? it's a ridiculous notion. there's no way they were possibly doing those type of things. i think you are absolutely right. >> melissa: he could make a lot of money off the book. everybody's talking about it. what do you think are the long-term political at implications of it, if anything? >> i hope this is a strong signal that those that are playing talked about politics at the top of the food chain have got to be rooted out. this is not something they should be involved in and engaged in. it should not be a double standard if your name is clinto clinton. at the end of the day, she started her senate conversation. she was trying to subvert the process. it still comes back to
hillary clinton herself. >> melissa: jason chaffetz. thank you. fox news alert, new fallout from the fbi raids earlier this week targeting president trump's longtime attorney michael:become a for the president. cohen telling a federal judge, chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is a live in latest. >> the hearing resumes just an hour from now. a decision on the cohen search warrant, it's on hold until monday. executed earlier this week on his office apartment and hotel room, seized the business records and one computer and cell phone. the court must decide what evidence is clear game and not protected by attorney-client privilege. in court, the two sides debated this morning the use of a so-called clean team, composed of fbi agents or federal
magistrate who review the material and determine what is in the scope of the warrant and what has to be excluded based on attorney-client privilege. lawyers for "abc news" and "the new york times" will argue for access to the court records and it should be as transparent as possible. stormy daniels, he backed that request. >> we don't know the full scope of everything that was seized. we don't have privy to that information. as a general proposition, we believe as much information about this process should be made public as much as possible. we will fight on behalf of the public for that access. >> the first impact, implying press freedom and it implies to every american who hires a lawyer and wants those communications to remain privat private. >> melissa: great reporting, catherine herridge, as always. for more on this, let's bring in former federal prosecutor doug
burns. how do you start with the idea of the clean team? is it too late for that? have they already looked through what they've got? >> academically, the clean team tries to find out what is privileged and they put it to the side. more important, they don't participate in the investigation. however, i agree with him 1000%. come on, there to go find distinctions. the same group of agents that were all involved in the same branch of government. with the professor saying you should maybe have an independent monitor or someone outside of the fbi or executive branch, finding out what is privileged. i figured that was a lot of the discussion. today, we would like some court intervention to give more clear guidance as to what is privileged. >> melissa: where is that right now and have they started
looking for through it? >> they go in and to the search. up sensibly, some people call it a clean team. or a wall team. we get the idea. the point is, it would be walled off. >> melissa: can't go near it. >> right. except the wall agents are allowed to look at it. again, these are very fine distinctions. i endorse not to be a broken record, having either an independent monitor or the judge be involved. >> melissa: what about media access? what does it mean? >> it's very common, the media steps forward and wants to be involved. i don't have a crystal ball but i don't think they will get it right now. >> melissa: he has been tainted as a fixer. there's a lot of evidence that makes him seem like he's a fixer as opposed to a personal attorney. in the legal sense, what is the difference, if any? >> great distinction. a lot of people are saying
different lawyers acting as, for example, a business partner. or business advisor. not in the role of the attorney. that can be outside of the scope of privilege. >> melissa: is that true? >> yes, that's true. but again, it's hard to say from a lawyer's office involving a client or even a business advisor would certainly endorse 1000% airing on the side of caution, seriously, in terms of whether or not, to your question, you can categorize it as attorney-client privilege. >> melissa: what would you imagine? what would make him more of a business partner? if you is investing or accepting payment? some of the things you hear about, getting paid for speaking. >> the hypothetical being he is simply a partner in the deal. do you follow me? the minute there is a device or what we would call attorney work product, that's the key term,
you have to be very careful because this privilege concept, it goes to other people. if an attorneys apartment is rated, what about the rest of his office? the other clients? like with a doctor's office? >> melissa: something everyone's talking about, tapes. >> you have to get back to the real fundamentals. what exactly is in the search warrant? everybody's offering all kinds of opinions. just like when we were talking about the fisa applications. you have to look at it. >> melissa: can we see that? >> probably not. it will remain under seal. in most cases, you do see it. most cases, the lawyers will see it. the question is, what is the exact scope? a search warrant lists exactly what you are seeking. is this material they are seeking or does it go beyond it?
>> melissa: doug burns, it seems like there's an awful lot to fight about and search there. president trump is expected to pardon former dick cheney aide scooter libby, he was convicted of lying to the fbi in 2007. what could be the fallout and is the president sending a message to witnesses in the mueller probe? we are awaiting president trump's response to the weapons attack in syria, presented with several options. what's our best move? a member of the house foreign affairs committee joins us next. >> we all need independent verification, three agents have verified that. we have to go big and we have to truly take away the delivery capability he has. wish we got money back on gym memberships.
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the administration is in a difficult position when it comes to determining their best move. >> did a chemical weapons attack happen? yes, the u.s. has analyzed yes, it has happened. the u.k. has analyzed yes, it has happened. rance has analyzed yes, it has happened. you don't rash decisions like this. if you rest decisions, you make a mistake. we are taking all the information, if we do something, what will happen, how will it happen, and will it hurt anyone? >> melissa: chief national security correspondent jennifer griffin is a live the latest. >> another national security meeting at the white house late this afternoon. all eyes will be on that meeting. from the pentagon's point of view, the various military options were presented to the president yesterday, during that nearly two hour national security meeting at the white house. it was a menu of options, involving more targets than what was presented to the president a
year ago after the last chemical weapons attack. the russian foreign minister called the energy attack "a ho" >> our specialist who examined the area did not find any examination or application of chemicals or any other kind of poison. moreover, we have irrefutable evidence that this was another staging with which the special services of a certain nation had a hand in. a nation trying hard to be in the front row of the campaign. >> inspectors headed into syria to try to collect evidence. the opc w or organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons inspectors hope to be on the ground in douma. he said he needed more proof that assad launched the regime on the deadly chemical weapons attack. >> we are looking for the actual
evidence. >> ambassador nikki haley spoke at the u.n. moments ago, presenting a united front with france and britain, all of whom have agreed to participate in military action. >> there is proof that this happened. what i will tell you is as a mother of two children, as a wife of a combat veteran, i am unbelievably proud of how president trump has looked at the information, analyzed, not let anyone rush into this. >> meanwhile, the u.s. has added another missile destroyer to the mediterranean and two warships with missile capability in the red sea. the french president called vladimir putin today, risking russian or iranian forces has already moved jets to russian airbases, protecting them from the bombs. the pentagon wants wants to know
what's next if an attack is ordered. >> melissa: we are learning president trump has in fact pardon former dick cheney chief of staff scooter libby. this is a statement coming from the press secretary right now. today, president donald trump issued an executive grant of clemency. a full pardon to scooter libby, former chief of staff to richard cheney for conviction stemming from 2007 trial. president george bush -- he also served two years probation. in 2015, one of the key witnesses against mr. libby recanted her testimony. judith miller. stating publicly she believes the prosecutor withheld relevant information from her during interviews that would have altered significantly what she said. in the next year, the district
court of columbia union is loosely reinstated libby to the bar, and the court agreed with the disciplinary counsel, who stated mr. libby had presented credible evidence in support of his innocence. including evidence that a key prosecution witness had changed her recollection of the event in question. before his conviction, mr. libby had rendered more than a decade of honorable service to the nation as a public servant and the department of state and defense. his record since his is similarly unblemished, and is continued to be held in high regard by his colleagues and peers. in light of these facts, the president believes mr. libby is fully worthy of his pardon. "i do not know mr. libby, "says president trump.
"but i hope it will rectify a very sad portion of his life." john roberts, live with more. the discussion will be, what with the tea leaves and all of that? >> the president would at some point in the afternoon announce he was pardoning scooter. a couple of interesting aspects. scooter libby's attorney was victoria ten thin. she is the wife of joe digenova and the two of them are now a part of the president's outside legal team for the russia investigation. not to suggest there is influence but there certainly is that suggestion. joe did to the java they think he was railroaded by a special counsel investigation that ran amok during the bush administration, patrick fitzgerald's special counsel investigation into who leaked
the name of the cia operative in terms of the run-up to the war in iraq. what's interesting about that whole case, whoever leaked the name of valerie, everyone knew it was richard armitage. kept on, going down rabbit holes, pulling on strings to see what was at the other end of that. he got scooter libby and what many people believe was a perjury trap. scooter libby insists he merely forgot the exact date on which he learned about valerie's name but by that time, fitzgerald had him online to investigators for obstruction of justice. the second interesting part of this is you can see this as president trump sending a message. reading a statement that he doesn't know, mr. libby come about for years, he deserves he's been treated unfairly. they all also think michael
flynn, his national security advisor, was treated extremely unfairly by the mueller investigation and that he was caught in some sort of perjury trap. the president could be sending the message that he believes scooter libby was treated unfairly and also michael flynn was treated unfairly by a special counsel investigation. is it also possible that the president is telegraphing his intentions? maybe he will pardon flynn? that might be a bridge too far but certainly, there's a lot of different things you can read into today and partnering scooter libby. the biggest thing is the president believes they deserve to be pardoned. melissa. >> melissa: interesting.
john roberts, thank you. bill mcgurn, a former speechwriter for president george w. bush and main street columnist for "the wall street journal." what's your reaction? >> i served with scooter in the bush white house. the president's powers of pardon are one of the most unlimited powers. not completely unlimited but in the constitution, these are the kind of things they are exercised for. apart from whether scooter was guilty or innocent, it sends a message about prosecutorial excess. when there is no underlying crime and people are indicted for all sorts of other things, i think that's very unfair. this is the president, the constitution gives the president this power specifically to serve right from wrong and to address some balances that the law doesn't allow for. >> melissa: first of all, you talk about special counsel
starting to go look for something and ends up going down another trail, go where the evidence leads you. a couple of people have said this recently, if you want and you looked that deeply into anyone, you would find something illegal. do you really think that is true? of all the people in our audience, you and i appear >> maybe not me. i do want to give the federal prosecutors on me. special counsel's corrupt, independent counsel's corrupt, absolutely. the special counsel's a bad idea. partly because they go looking for crimes. they are supposed to investigate a crime. it's kind of find the person first and then the crime. it's a terrible thing. not just in the case now but it's a terrible way to render justice. >> melissa: that's a really good way to put it.
and then find a crime to put on the person. that would be very dangerous in our society. that could easily be turned on absolutely anyone in our audience. it doesn't matter politics or what it is. >> some of the critics of the special counsel pointed out a regular prosecutor. is this really going to bear fruit? pursuing this one man as long as they can until they can find a crime to pin on him. >> melissa: i give her a lot of credit for coming forward, saying she made a mistake and was talking about one of the reasons why this is important is because in her mind, it was the beginning of the politicization, some of the things we hold most dear in this country.
using these remedies to really go after your political foes and legal sense and using our institution. >> i did see what she said that my impression is, what she's saying is we don't want to criminalize policy. when i was in the bush administration, i think it is happening now at the same time with the russia investigation. these are very, very dangerous things. >> melissa: criminalizing policy, that sounds like we would never do that. you think that's going on right now? >> remember, this special counsel was set up for counterintelligence investigation. not the investigation of a crim crime. what is very dissatisfying, only indictments. the only answer, i think the
constitution is a different point of view. the president is accountable in two ways. one, at the ballot box. vote them out. two, he could be impeached. that's the proper procedure for investigating a president. impeachment. but instead, a lot of people on both sides, some people want hillary indicted an trump indicted. indictments are not a good way to solve political questions and they lead to a lot of bitterness. >> melissa: although the special counsel is a means to impeachment. >> you've got some constitutional issues, justice scalia pointed out. just another prosecutor. >> melissa: for more on this, republican congressman, can i
get your reaction to the pardoning of scooter libby, lee zeldin? >> all reasons why you could issue the pardon or prevent a president from issuing a pardon and in this case, the facts are over a decade later, what happened with scooter libby, have a special counsel who was running their office unlocked. additional facts have come to light. a parting doesn't say scooter libby is innocent. it does have consequences. it allows scooter libby to be able to move on with his life and she has done his time. he was sentenced. there was a commutation but he didn't receive a 30 month sentence. a $250,000 fine.
he's had to live with this for over a decade. there was more to what took place. when you look at the scales of justice, you could have handled this entire situation differently and especially with the additional information that came to light afterwards, it's obvious the special prosecutor at this time did not have to pursue the course he did as he did it. scooter libby has an opportunity to move forward with his life. >> melissa: what message do you think the president is trying to send, if any? >> for one, he used this case alone on its merit. he has people around him who know scooter libby well. the president apparently doesn't know scooter libby. the people around him do. they talk about his decades of service to our country. you take that public service. putting scooter libby aside, you
do have -- i have my own personal opinions as it relates to michael flynn. in my opinion, the way michael flynn was treated was very unfairly. we are learning more about peter strzok and his role at the fbi and his antitrust bias. you see trump's fingerprints on the documents that are affiliated with ending the hillary clinton probe. peter strzok's fingerprints on the dossier that extended the trump probe. that led to an interview with michael flynn. i'm not going to speculate or make an assumption that there is a connection but if you were to ask if there's a message to be sent? in my own personal opinion, i think michael flynn was absolutely in the right for making a phone call he did after the november 2016 election. if you remember why those calls
were being made, president obama and his team were trying to get past in the anti-israel security council, you have a transition team trying to set themselves up for success. and then peter strzok gets involved in an interview and really tries to trap michael flynn and get him from someone who also has served. when i was an army intelligence officer, it's unfortunate. it's unfortunate how his career ends when it is in the hands of peter strzok. i'm not going to say there is a message but a message does get sent to the current special counsel now and going forward. it's really important as a previous guest just said, you
don't identify a person and then just tried desperately to create a crime for anywhere to try to take someone down. instead, you should be investigating a crime. and try to bring these cases to a conclusion. instead of what we are seeing right now, it happens. it's prompted by james comey leaking classified information to the media, which is a crime in the end of itself. prompting a special counsel investigation even though there was no evidence that president trump had colluded with the russians. now you have a 43-headed monster and all kinds of different directions with no end in sight. it also sends a message whether it is intended or not to the justice system that we should not be identify people and desperately chasing after crime crimes. >> melissa: from our last guest, we are kind of getting to
a place where it seems that we are criminalizing our political differences. >> watching hillary clinton ending off for what happened, a person who is a defendant, going into court as a defendant before a judge because he made a right-hand turn on red and they got caught. for all the defendants across our country, how does that make them feel? when there is anyone in this country about the law, everyone should be equal under the law, regardless of what your last name is, regardless if you are republican, democrat, conservative, equal. what we've seen over the course of the last few years, especially towards the end of president obama's time in office, we were using the justice department as a sword for people with political biase biases. i think it's important moving forward to level the playing
field. treat everybody equally. and never politicize this awesome power given to the justice department. >> melissa: how do we do that? every time we call for a special counsel that his pursuit of a crime, the others feel that they are trying to do justice. that is what the special counsel is doing. if they happen to come upon another crime in pursuit, what is wrong with that? that's where the evidence took them. >> the reason why the trump-russia probe began was because president trump won the g.o.p. nomination for president. under the cover of some really bad alternative justifications that we see in the memo that started the investigation, to cover the real purpose for why the investigation started, it's also clear why the fbi and doj
did not want to have the devin nunes memo released. they misled a fisa judge. they did not provide all their facts to spy on american citizens. that's why the russia probe continued. we talked about why the special counsel probe started and the way james comey triggered that by leading classified information to the media. when you are continuing it, the entire time, trey gowdy talks about we are seeing numbers -- we are so right with the way they put that. it shouldn't really have nothing to do with what party you are. >> melissa: or what outcome you think is going to have in elections, as we are learning from james comey's book. you were coming on as a part of the foreign affairs committee.
i want to ask you, we understand along with us, the u.k. and france agreed there's enough evidence that this happened. that aside didn't once again used chemical weapons on his people. where does that leave us, in your opinion? >> the first three or so major steps, you want to build a coalition. you are talking to your allies, other countries who may be aligned with you on this particular situation, even though you might not with some of these countries be aligned on others. we see conversations with u.k., france, israel, there are some very wealthy arab nations that really do need to be involved. saudi arabia, uae, qatar, other countries could be involved. part of it is a coalition.
in that intelligence sharing. we all have information. some information we can share validates the information that other countries have. third, once you are building a coalition and you've shared intelligence and feel good about your conclusions, it's bringing your take to the united nations and the international community. russia has all sorts of bizarre conspiracy theories as to what happened. first they were blaming the rebels and now i hear that they might be blaming the u.k., as if britain was part of it? there's a fight for the legitimacy going forward. the next step, there's likely going to be targeting legitimate locations, control, infrastructure, it could be the syrian air force, the way they deliver chemical weapons. where the people that make the
decisions are located. some personnel could be targete targeted. if we were going to strike a particular target, would civilians be impacted by that particular strike? a lot of the options ahead of the path forward are one that they are legitimate, they are specific, they are targeted and they also don't get us into a long, drawn out war. >> melissa: that's the case. that's what so many people are afraid of. congressman lee zeldin. thank you for joining us. >> i was appalled by what director comey did. call to james comey acted in id outrageous way. >> it was an outrageous mistake. >> melissa: president trump's g.o.p. allies launching an ad campaign attacking the former fbi chiefs credibility, labeling
him "lying comey." they labeled him as a self-serving narcissist. david avella is chairman of gopac and former g.o.p. strategist. suraj patel is a candidate for congress in new york, democratic strategist. >> i think this web site is absolutely beneath the president of the united states to tweet something about a private citizen. >> melissa: he's got the book. we are at this point where it's very embarrassing on all sides. we all concede that. what does it achieve and does the g.o.p. try to counter it? does that work? >> the president has tried to attack the messenger time and time again instead of addressing the message. the president fired james comey because of an investigation and
he admitted that to lester holt days after he did the firing. it is disingenuous of them to say democrats wanted this or whatever. but i think it's crazy is when i say black lives matter, this very president and his allies tell me i'm denigrating law enforcement. yet he consistently tweets and attacks -- >> melissa: i don't want to get too left field from the book. here we are in this back and forth again. g.o.p. wants to come out and man the book before it hits the show. other people are saying there's not much sense doing it anyway. his their way to do these things ahead of time ? given that there aren't a ton of revelations in the book. it's the personal tax and stuff. the people that don't like the president were really enjoying and that would people who do
like the president won't buy. >> james comey is one of every other disgruntled employee who has a different understanding of why they were fired and why were actually fired. the president had every right to do, and you will and pleasure employee of the president. when he decides he want to go, you are gone. melissa, what james comey does now, he does speeches and interviews, now he has his book. the only way she is relevant is to go out and tell his story about his interactions with the president. there is no news for stories or interviews if he comes on your show and you ask him about the 2016 election and why he handled it the way they did. now they are back in love with james comey. it's hard to keep up with whether democrats love or hate james comey. >> you are absolutely right. it's counterproductive.
it's counterproductive for the president to elevate the book for himself, but he did it. >> melissa: this is his new way of making a living. there you go. he's going to go out and say, what about that point, if you just ignored it? >> conservatives have for decades been told you just sit on the sidelines and you don't respond to this. part of the reason why donald trump was appealing to conservatives was because he wasn't going to take the liberal bias that has attacked conservatives for decades. for people that like the president, they aren't going to buy it. >> melissa: pulled out at the beginning of his presidency, whether that could be more
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he would only entered the agreement if it was substantially better than it was under economic president obama. here is his academic advisor, larry kudlow. >> as it exists now, it was bad. it was white right for presidep to pull out. maybe he can be approved, maybe not. maybe we will have market openings for our exports. maybe not. maybe it will reduce trade barriers for us. maybe not. >> melissa: joining me now is congresswoman diane -- part of the house committee and budget committee. thank you for joining me. they were saying it has gone ahead without the u.s. and they might not even want us at this point, that they've just moved on. do you buy that? >> i don't buy that. they are very interested in the american product and i think there's an opportunity for us to be able to, especially with my
state looking at agriculture being so important to our state, this might be an opportunity for us and our producers, like with soybeans. i'm glad the president is at least opening the door. it may or may not benefit us. i think the president will say we are out if it doesn't. the one the point was supposed to be to band together to attack china's advantage in all of these different trade policies. which is what the president says he wants to do anyway. he wants to start getting tough on china. why did you not like this? >> one was beans, one was rice, we were not being treated fairl fairly. under ambassador froman, we continue to let him know that there were certain things that were not available because we were not being treated fairly ad we would not see our way
through this. when the president got elected and he saw what was happening, he pulled out. there were good reasons for that. i will tell you, we never really felt comfortable when it was being negotiated. we were in the right place. >> melissa: what you are talking about, how the heck did that happen? when we are this huge nation with all this power and all these goods? how did we lose the advantage? if that's how it is? >> we haven't been strong in making those trade deals. we have a president that is a strong president. he's a negotiator. he has done this and that's what he's doing here. we've not had people that have pushed back. i really did feel that way under previous ambassadors, that they were not pushing the way we
needed those trade representatives to push. when that happens, the stronger countries, china is a very strong country. strong negotiators in japan. we would not get will be deserved if we got into a trade deal that is not really beneficial to our producers. >> melissa: with those defending the old deals, they always say there's more at stake than the dollars and cents. one of those deals that looks like they are at a financial disadvantage, how do you respond to that argument? >> when they were making those negotiations, we of course have trade at the top of our priorities. i have watched that we've not always negotiated the way we need to. i traveled around the country and spoke to some of these
countries. i know we were not seeing as strong as what we needed to be seeing. at least not as strong as with those people were towards us. >> melissa: seems that way. representative diane black. thank you very much. we are awaiting the white house press briefing. we will expect more reaction to james comey's tell-all book and president trump's pardon of dick cheney's aid, scooter libb scooter libby. more for you, next. more . o to share. three times the harvest. one powerful guarantee. miracle-gro. i had a very minor fender bender tonight!
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>> melissa: all right. the podium means that we are awaiting the white house press conference, sure to be a fiery one on this day as james comey's book is about to come out. i'm melissa francis in today for harris faulkner. have a great weekend. >> dana: a fox news alert. the white house briefing is scheduled for a half hour from now as sarah sanders sure to take questions about newly released excerpts from former fbi director's james comey's book. hello, everyone, i'm dana perino. and this is the daily briefing. ♪ ♪ >> dana: there is also breaking news with president trump issuing a pardon to scooter libby just a short time ago. libby, who was vice president's dick cheney's chief of staff who had been crickeconvicted of lying to the fbi in 2007. chris stirewalt is standing by. but let's begin with chief intelligence correspondent kathleen herrige. kathleen, you spoke to scooter. what did he have to say? >> yeah, within the last hour i was able to have a very brief conversation with scooter libby. i wanto