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>> and what makes a good couple. i mean, did not matter where they were in the world as long as they were together. >> met at a christmas dance. 16 years old. thanks for joining us. "happening now" starts right now. >> jon: and we begin with a fox news alert on new tension in the trump administration with talk of confusion and then an apology. good morning to you on this wednesday. i'm jon scott. >> good morning. i'm melissa francis. talk of new sanctions for russia with the national economic council director who is larry kudlow appearing to offend nikki haley suggesting that she was suffering from "momentary confusion" when she said new sanctions were imminent. haley firing back all before kudlow apologized. this comes amid big news on the north korean front with president trump confirming that secretary of state nominee mike pompeo met with kim jong-un over the easter weekend.
>> a very real chance that this trump policy of firmness is leading kim jong-un to decide that he wants a deal. i think that would be remarkably historic, and i think that having a willingness to meet with him going through this process really opens up possibilities that are very important. >> kevin corke is live in west palm beach florida with more on this story. kevin? >> hi, melissa. mike pompeo given his experience is perfectly suited for such an overture as the administration continues to prepare for a likely meeting with the north korean dictator, one that would come as soon as the end of may and into perhaps even early june. let's take you to twitter. you've talked about it today. mike pompeo met with kim jong-un in north korea last week. the meeting went smoothly. you correctly pointed out it was
during the easter weekend. meeting went smoothly and a good relationship was formed. details of the summit are being worked out now. denuclearization is being worked out. that meeting, as i mentioned, come ahead of what most observers believe will ultimately happen probably sometime in early june, a summit between the two leaders. while expectations remain relatively low that some sort of major deliverables will be hammered out before then, there's still some signs of cautious optimism. >> we've had talks at the highest level. well, let's leave it short of that. we've had talks at the highest level. it's going very well. we'll see what happens. >> now, all this is happening as there has been just a bit of a distraction, a little dust-up between the white house and the state department. the two sides try to get on the same page on their messaging. we're talking about as it relates to sanctions against
russia. we've talked about this since yesterday. larry kudlow, the chief economic adviser was asked a simple question if he felt like there was a gap or space between what the white house has been saying about possible sanctions and what nikki haley, the u.n. ambassador said. she said there would be new sanctions and roll out monday. they didn't roll out on monday. that created a bit of a gap. kudlow saying in florida, maybe there was confusion about when that roll-out would happen. as you can imagine, that didn't go over well with the u.n. ambassador. she said the following, and i'm quoting now, "with all due respect, i don't get confused." straightforward from nikki haley. kudlow apologized. he wasn't trying to make more of it. the white house continuing to insist there may be more sanctions. they're considering more opportunities to hit the russians if they continue to support the assad regime but
they've not made a formal announcement just yet. >> interesting stuff. thank you. >> yeah. >> jon: tributes are pouring in this morning for first lady barbara bush. she's the wife of a former president and one of one as well. >> she was wonderful until you got out of line. she wasn't too warm and wonderful. she was awesome. >> funny and fierce and strong-minded. a great role model for me. i learned how to be a first lady. >> joining us now, chris wallace, anchor of fox news sunday. your memories of barbara bush, chris. >> well, i have to say, listening to the two of them talk so warmly and so accurately about mrs. bush. first of all, we have to talk about her in a historic way.
she and abigail adams, the wife of john adams and john quincy adams, are the two of them of the mother and wife of presidents. she was a force to be reckoned with. she was known as the silver fox, known as the enforcer. she lived up to both of them with george h.w. bush on the road a lot campaigning and doing his business before that, his oil business. she was the enforcer in the family. it was a rowdy family of bushes and a rowdy family of the children and the grandchildren and she was always in charge. i have to say, a few times when i was with the two of them, you gravitated to her almost more than president bush because she was very much the center of gravity in a social situation in that family. funny, tart and when she wanted to let you have it, she would let you have it in between the
eyes. >> jon: it was quite a career. i mean, i think of her primarily as first lady. her husband was a u.s. representative, a u.n. ambassador, a cia director and then ultimately a vice president and president. he had quite a career and she was there at home raising the kids and keeping the home fires burning. >> yeah. one of the things if you've been around politics and you would agree with this, jon, any successful politician, particularly somebody that rises to the level of being president, almost always there's a wife that's been deeply involved and very much a partner and power that was true of nancy and ronald reagan and certainly true of barbara and george bush. she also, not just in helping him with his career, but she established her own as first lady doing tremendous work on literacy, tremendous work on
private philanthropy, part of the president's program of 1,000 points of light. one of the things i have to say, this is the longest marriage in the history of first couples in our country. 73 years. i can't help but wonder what life is like today in bush 41's household. she's been part of his life nor 70-plus years. seven decades. it was a very touching statement put out by the staff yesterday that he was holding her hand all day yesterday, president bush as she slipped away. it touches my heart to think what it must be like this morning. i'm sure he has the support of his family. the center of his life is gone. that must be a tremendous void. >> jon: i remember seeing the pair of them when he flipped the coin at the super bowl a year ago, 1 1/2 years ago.
he looked so frail. she didn't look great but she was on her feet. it's just so sad for him that she's gone now. raised more than a billion dollars for literacy through her foundation. >> she was an extraordinary force. as i say, anybody that got cross-wise with her -- i was reading an essay today by chris buckley, the very talented writer and a speechwriter for george h.w. bush. early in his vice presidency he clifford a speed that chris had written. afterwards, they got on air force 2. barbara said to chris, i think that's the best speech any husband has ever given. she said we all worked on on it. she said don't be such a pollyanna. i'm giving you a compliment, accept it. there was no artifice to her. she would take the bark off. you know, one of the things she
did, she made you want to be better. she made you want the be stronger and speak to our higher angels. better angels. she was -- she will be missed on the national scene and the bush family. >> jon: absolutely. we all with. chris wallace, anchor of "fox news sunday," thank you. >> you bet. >> the chemical weapons investigation in syria is now delayed after reuters reported that gun fire broke out while a security team was preparing for international inspectors to visit douma yesterday. nobody was hurt. the investigators will have to wait to visit the site and collect evidence on the april 7 gas attack that killed dozens of civilians. >> jon: this fox news alert. another scare for southwest airlines. a flight to phoenix turning around after a bird strike. it happened shortly after take-off in nashville.
nobody was hurt. this as the ntsb investigates yesterday's nightmare. jennifer reardon, a banking executive and mother was killed after engine failure caused shrapnel to break a window on board a 737. the aircraft made an emergency landing in florida. the pilot, tammie jo schultz being praised for preventing this to become worse. a full report coming up at 11:30 eastern time. >> extremely dangerous weather conditions fuelling fast-moving wild fires in western oklahoma. how firefighters are battling the flames. plus, a divide in the golden state. san diego county backing president trump in his suit against california's sanctuary laws. why more californians are taking sides. >> it was a big day for san diego. today marks the day that we sent
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>> melissa: right now wild fires in oklahoma raging out of control. firefighters battling a rapidly spreading blaze and dangerous weather conditions. not seen in years. two people have been killed and more than 240 acres burned. at least four tanker aircraft have been deployed to drop water on the fires. red flag warnings are in effect through this evening. >> jon: a clear split in california. cities pushing back on the sanctuary laws. this week, san diego county joining the trump administration's lawsuit to challenge the state's laws. it's not just san diego. the president tweeting there's a
revolution going on in california. so many sanctuary areas want out of this ridiculous crime-infesting concept. jerry brown is trying to back out of the national guard at the border. the people of the state are not happy. they want security and safety now. joining us now, amos sneed, founding partner of s-3 public affairs and press secretary for roy blunt and dave brown. thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> dave, if san diego wants to exempt itself from california's state law that declares itself a sanctuary state and prevents local law enforcement officials from reporting illegal immigrants that have been in jail and so forth, why should they not be allowed to do that? >> it's going to be a question for the courts and a question for california. what i think is really striking here is looking at president trump's tweets today and just his ongoing fight that he's chosen to pick with california, it's striking to me that he
would rather pick a fight with california than do the important work, the very serious work of passing bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform, which is something that he and the house and senate have failed to do. >> jon: the president did offer to, you know, offer citizenship to 180 million people who -- i'm sorry. 18 million people who had been so-called dreamers, amos. >> yeah. i think if you look at this, i don't think you can put the blame on republicans or president trump. look back. nobody wants to talk about immigration or looks into this. you had when president obama in office, democrats controlling the senate and the house and chose not to do anything. now it's politicized. if you look at it, president trump will continue to talk about this because he and his team fully believe this is why the american people put him in office.
>> jon: i put the decimal place in the wrong point. 1.8 million was the number. but dave, you know, look, we can talk about the politics all we want. president obama had a democratic house and senate and didn't do anything with it. so it's a little bit incorrect to blame it all on president bush -- i'm sorry, president trump right now. the fact that you have california that passed this law. some of its counties don't like it. san diego county doesn't look it. orange county doesn't like it. why shouldn't they be allowed to follow national law? >> 53% of californians do support the law. you are underscoring an important point. we need consistency, uniformity in how our immigration laws are enforced in this country. this is -- right now this is a political debate and politics
for the president leading to mid-terms. he promised to security funding for a border wall and failed to do that in the omnibus. he's covering bases by playing to his base and offering up the red meat. in fact, a study from the university of california san diego found that sanctuary cities on average are safer and more economically prosperous. i'm not arguing in favor of sanctuary cities by saying that but it's politically incorrect and reckless for the president to say that cities that are sanctuary cities are less safe. >> jon: amos, listen to what jerry brown said about this. >> a lot of politics in this. i tried to carve a path down the middle to respect our immigrants and respect or border and our law. >> jon: one way you respect law is by respecting immigration law, right? >> yeah. if you look at this, what san diego did is it's in the interest of their public safety. that's how they're looking at
it. any as you take on immigration, especially in california right now in this environment goes completely political. >> jon: amos sneed, dave brown, this discussion will go on awhile. thank you both. >> melissa: thank you. up next how you can check your child's phones for apps that can be tracking their every move right now. remembering and celebrating the life of a beloved first lady, barbara bush and her impact on our country. our presidential historian weighs in next. >> our entire family are very grateful for people's prayers and sympathies. you know, it's the end of a beautiful life. mom? dad? hi! i had a very minor fender bender tonight in an unreasonably narrow fast food drive thru lane. but what a powerful life lesson. and don't worry i have everything handled. i already spoke to our allstate agent, and i know that we have accident forgiveness.
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concerns related to popular childrens apps on the google play store. 6,000 of these apps could be in violation of the children's online privacy protection act. that's because they collect personal data of children younger than 13 without their parent's permission. the study includes basic enforcement work needs to be done. google says they're taking the report seriously and looking into their findings. >> melissa: remembering the life and legacy of barbara bush. america mourns her death at the age of 92. the matriarch was known for straight talk, signature pearls and her sharp wit. >> barbara bush and george bush had a way of making sure everybody felt special.
they had an amazing capacity for love. she wanted to be known as a wife, a mother and a grandmother. she's so much more. you see that today. it's wonderful to see in today's day and age everyone lifting up the memory of barbara bush. a life of great consequence. >> melissa: joining us now, a presidential historical and former senior white house staffer for george h.w. bush. i know you also wrote a big about mothers of presidents you know, we heard george w. bush saying this morning he learned a lot by being surrounded by strong women his whole life. he had a strong mother, a strong wife and now strong daughters. what do you think she teaches us as mothers from your observation? >> a great question, melissa. definitely the power of a mother, most of these presidents are mommas boys. i remember one day melissa, in
the white house, 1989 and i went into the oval office to see the president. barbara was there. she turned around. she looked at me and she said, you tell george not to run. we don't want him to run. he was thinking about running for governor of texas in 1990. he didn't do it until 1994. she didn't want it. that later became public. she told reporters, let's face it, jeb is like his father. george is too much like me. well, if i had done my study by then, i could have told her, mrs. bush, george is going to be the president. it's the momma's boy that will be the president. if he's like you, he's on track to be president, not jeb. so a mother can have great power and influence. she did -- you have to say she's one of the greatest women that ever lived or she's lucky. there's two governors and a
husband and a son as president. it's amazing. >> melissa: it is interesting because she sort of redefined what it means to be a feminist icon. in this day, you think of somebody out front and the ceo. she's shaped a ton of lives and very forceful. she achieved a lot for women and for humans in our country. she said i never got a paycheck, right? >> right. a good point. if there was a mount rushmore of first ladies, she would go on it. but not as hillary clinton or eleanor roosevelt. one was secretary of state. her resume would be the impact she had on others. i can't think of another person that has had a greater impact. for example, there's no first
lady that has ever had a son that was elected governor. she's had two of them and two presidents. what many people don't know is at one point they were grooming neil bush to run for governor of colorado, too. so she's had a tremendous impact as a woman. if you're a woman born when she was born, limited by the limitations she had, how can you make a difference? i don't think you can do much more than what she did. >> as a role model for anyone, male or female that wants to be of service, two of her characteristics that stuck out is her humility and herselfle herselflessness. in every story you've heard today, she put others first and how although she was so very strong and outspoken, she was very humble. wouldn't you agree? >> i would agree with that. there's one thing that has been missing in the conversations today, she was forgiving. she knew how to forgive herself when they failed to tell george about the leukemia and robin. she for gave me.
there's people in public life that put me on a black list and were upset with me and barbara bush reached out when she turned 90 years old and told a&e when they redid her biography, they said we want doug wead to do the historical commentary on it. so she knew how to forgive others. she kept things light. her mother, pauline, was tight, controlling, bitter. barbara's revenge is i'm going to have fun. life should be fun. >> doug wead, thanks so much. >> thank you, melissa. >> jon: the latest on the investigation into an emergency landing that ended with the death of a passenger. more on the southwest airlines accident. what we're learning about the pilot ahead. plus, some lawmakers pushing for legislation to protect special counsel robert mueller from
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information as passengers tell their stories. >> we knew something was wrong and something wouldn't be right. you know, just looked up and saw like a flight attendant run to the front of the plane. i don't know. it was terrifying. >> melissa: wow! meanwhile we're learning about the woman that died on the flight as well as the experienced pilot being held as a hero. julie banderas is live in new york city with more. >> that's right. the female passenger killed in yesterday's doomed southwest airline's flight 1380 has been identified as jennifer riordan from albuquerque, new mexico. the mother of two and a wells fargo bank executive. it's been confirmed that riordan was the passenger hit with
shrapnel when the engine exploded blowing out her windows. she was partially sucked out of the window hole. >> the engine went out. had a -- the window went out. the late did went out the window. we couldn't pull her in. a guy helped. we got her pulled in. they tried to resuscitate her. >> meanwhile, the pilot, tammie jo schultz is being hailed as a hero for landing the plane without more passengers being injured. schultz started at the airline in 1994. listen to her calmly speaking with air traffic control. >> can you have medical meet us on the runway? we have an injury passenger.
it's not a fire but part of it is missing. >> severe weather's ceo said she handled the job magnificently. aviation experts said it threw a fan blade, when is a rare occurrence. it happened in 2016, same engine, same airline. check out the two side by side photos. the ntsb says a complete investigation could take up to a year. thanks to the pilots and the crew and the passengers everybody survived the flight. the similarities is striking. tells you a lot. julie, thank you. >> sure. >> that's not necessary. there's no indication that mueller will be fired. i don't think the president will do that. and just as a practical matter, even if we passed it, we would
he sign it? >> jon: that's mitch mcconnell saying he will not bring legislation to the senate floor that would protect special counsel robert mueller from being fired by the president. his response after a bipartisan group of lawmakers proposed a bill to ensure the special counsel can only be fired for "good cause." let's bring in florida congressman matt gates, member of the house judiciary committee. congressman, what do you think of the senate majority leader's position that such a bill is unnecessary? >> it's rare that i agree so firmly with mitch mcconnell, but in this case, he's absolutely right, that the senate has far more important work to get to. over 500 bills that we've sent from the house that the senate has not taken action on. i met yesterday with a cabinet official that has 20% of their leadership team confirmed by the senate. so this would not be an appropriate use of their resources of time. i think it may become appropriately eventually to set
some legislative guardrails on the robert mueller probe. we have the probe going beyond the election meddling to financial investigations before trump ran. >> jon: there are questions whether that kind of legislation would be constitutional. do you have an opinion on that? >> it's my assessment the president has broad powers when it comes to the employees of the executive branch. sometimes good facts make bad laws and people can get wound up in one particular fact pattern and can make laws that would impair presidential power. so i don't think it would be wise for us to limit the president's able tility to hire fire members of the branch. but some guardrails should be set and only focused on foreign
interference in our election, not every untoward thing that every person has done that haas been in touch with the president. that seems broad to me. >> jon: yeah. it seems that the people are in trouble had nothing to do with russian election meddling. here's what the president tweeted regarding james comey most recently. i'm sorry. he writes "slippery james comey, the worst fbi director in history, was not fired because of the phony russian investigation where by the way there was no collusion except by the dems". you're suggesting the president you don't think is going to fire muler? >> i don't think he's going to fire mueller. i do believe the attorney general and the deputy attorney general should take a stronger leadership role as it relates to mueller. i understand the president's frustration when it comes to james comey. james comey wasn't in any way bringing these issues to light in real time. he waited until he was able to
make money off of a book deal. now we can see james comey finally has the job he wants. he's a television star. it seems to be this is a person that always wants to be in the light light, put frustrating to the president. >> jon: we'll continue to watch all of these stories as they play out. congressman matt gaetz, thank you. >> thank you. >> melissa: let's get you a quick check on the dow right now. it's up 26 points on the session. this is after stocks rallied big time yesterday and positive earnings records. major indices closed yesterday at their highest level in about a month. you can see up again today.
>> jon: the secrets of david copperfield, the famous magicians tricks revealed in court. why one spectator is suing him for what happened during a performance. plus a key cabinet member on a top secret mission to prepare for a summit president between -- president trump and kim jong-un. >> i hope to meet with kim jong-un and hopefully it's a success and maybe it will be and maybe it won't be. we don't know. we'll see what happens. i'm just worried about the house and taking care of the boys. zach! talk to me. it's for the house. i got a job.
disappear at once. british tourist gavin cox said he fell during the vanishing act and the injuries from the fall have cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars. >> melissa: former first lady barbara bush declining additional medical treatment in the days leading up to her death. she sought comfort care at home. former president george w. bush joining maria bartiromo this morning and talking about his mother kept her sense of humor right until the end. >> laura and i went over to see her a week ago saturday. we had a wonderful visit. she was strong, lucid. >> funny. >> she and i were needling each other. the doctor came in and said you want to know why george w. is the way she is? the doctor looked someone surprised. she said because i drank and
smoked when i was pregnant with him. >> she's hilarious. >> she's funny. >> melissa: joining me dr. mark seago. a fox news consultant. last time we saw the couple together, many of us, was at the super bowl. she looked to be the stronger of the two on her feet there. she had copd and congestive heart failure. what does that mean? >> the copd is emphysema and chronic bronchitis where you can't catch your breath, you need oxygen all the time and have frequent infections. she had frequent hospitalizations the past year. she just reached a point where she decided with severe heart failure and emphysema, she didn't want to keep taking the trips to the hospital, being in and out of the hospital, icu. this is what the last year of her life was. she was wearing oxygen.
that decision to when to go to a less aggressive care and comfort care -- >> melissa: what does that mean? we've heard that in the past few days. what is "comfort care?" >> it's confusing people. we should clarify that. what that means is, you can still eat, you can still take your medicines, you still get supportive care and treatment and oxygen, but focuses now on making you comfort. pain relief, if you're in pain. you're not going to end up on a respirator. >> melissa: not aggressive. >> yes. jim baker visited her. he's her husband's former secretary of state and chief of staff. she had a glass of bourbon and joking and relaxing. so i think she just made a decision. this can be very instructive for everybody out there, it's not a matter of your diagnosis or how old you are. you can be in your 90s and not make this decision. but it's not based on a diagnosis.
people with emphysema and heart failure are often reluctant to have comfort care. she's blazing the trail here. not only cancer, not only brain cancer or stroke. can it be useful for people that just can't catch their breath. >> melissa: what does that mean for regular people out there? obviously this is someone that has so many resources and support and access to education. from a regular person, you know, can you just say i would prefer comfort care at this point? i don't want aggressive treatment? >> the role of a physician is to press for aggressive treatment. it's also my role as a physician to be sensitive to what the patient wants. if a patient has a debilitating disease that i know won't get better and it's progressive and i know they won't live that long, i have to bow to their wishes and say okay, that's what a dnr is for.
it's on an individual patient. it's not about a medical doctor or in america that we think always the time always aggressive. >> melissa: what about if you're a parent? can you make that decision for someone else? if you don't want aggressive treatment for someone else it's a huge burden to bear. >> a fantastic question. the patient should make that question for themselves as long as they're in condition to do so, which she was. if you're talking about somebody demented, with alzheimer's, yes, it's the role of the caretaker or next of kin. tough decisions to make. oftentimes it's the right decision to pull back some. my father is 94 and doing great. he has the new heart valve. he has quality of life. i had another patient that was living for bowling. when he could no longer bowl, he scaled it back and brought in
hospice. hospice has its right movements. comfort care has its right time. she's blazed a trail here as she did earlier in her life with literacy, with hiv aids, volunteerism. she's blazed a trail, this is looking at the individual and say what do they need, what do they want, their quality of life. >> melissa: a great point. thanks, dr. mark. >> great to see you. thanks. >> jon: up next, what we're learning about the cia director that flew overseas to meet with kim jong-un to set up a historic summit between president trump and the north korean leader. once there was an organism so small
>> melissa: coming up on "outnumbered," the life of barbara bush being celebrated after her passing yesterday. we'll have the latest on all of it. and cia director mike pompeo had a secret meeting with kim jong-un a few weeks >> what? >> yeah. what does that mean for the president's possible summit with the north korean leader? >> so much to discuss. breaking news. james comey continues the media blitz to plug his group. republican lawmakers are calling to open for a criminal
investigation of him due to the handling of the hillary clinton e-mail scandal. >> and our guy of the hour. check it out. >> melissa: president trump is preparing for a meeting with kim jong-un as fox news confirmed that cia mike pompeo made a troop to north korea over the weekend and met with the north korean dictator. the surprise visit aiming to law the ground work for the historic summit between the two leaders. president trump acknowledging all this in an early morning tweet. mike pompeo met with kim jong-un last week and the meeting went smoothly and a good relationship was formed. details of the summit are being worked out now. denuclearization would be a great thing for the world and north korea. joining me now, rich edson at the state department. is that really what the meeting
was about? it was about details for the upcoming meeting. was it to talk about a site or feel him out? what do you think transpired? >> possibly all of that. these are things that we don't have a site or a date that we know of publicly. so these things have to be set. the parameters of what the two leaders will discuss. before any major meeting like this, officials from each other's countries get together and they work out, what are they going to talk about? they try to reach a lot of agreements or much of the agreement right before the two leaders sit down and try to close any type of a potential deal. so we still don't know publicly what kim jong-un is willing to give up, how much is he willing to denuclearize, what kind of inspections regime he might agree to or what does he want in exchange for that? that is key for the united states. does he want u.s. forces off the korean peninsula? so what does he want to give, what does he want to get?
those are things we don't know about and the cia director was trying to lay out the terms or the broader overview of what they might be discussing if and when they do meet. >> this isn't the only meeting that would have to happen, right? they would have to meet with other countries that like might be involved. we saw the meeting with japan. who else? >> this is the meeting between president trump and kim jong-un would happen after a meeting next week between kim jong-un and the south korean president. these are two major meetings happening. they're talking about potentially ending the korean war. we're still with an armistice. there's no face peace treaty. there's been a pause button there. that's on the table next week, melissa. >> melissa: a lot to do there. rich edson, thanks so much. >> jon: james comey doubles down on attacking president trump. he promotes his new book in a media blitz. the criticisms aren't sitting well with every one.
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>> melissa: that was fun. >> jon: it was. >> melissa: thanks for joining us. >> jon: "outnumbered" starts now. >> we begin with a fox news alert. the nation is mourning the passing of former first lady barbara bush. she died yesterday at her houston, texas home surrounded by family. she was 92. president trump ordered flags lowered to half staff in her memory. mrs. bush, the wife of one president, the mother of another, being remembered for her unwavering devotion for her family. her death came days after an announcement that she would no longer seek medical care. later this hour, we'll have more on her life and legacy. plus, fond memories from her elder son, former president george w. bush and his wife,