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he served as prime minister of the united kingdom until 1945 as the war ended and then again from 1951 to 1955. we will see you back here monday night at 7:00. thank you for being part of our story tonight. tucker carlson joins us next. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. from philadelphia to san francisco to college campuses everywhere, suddenly the american pro-life movement, not just the pro-life movement but anybody who has the mildest qualms about legal abortion is under attack from the intolerant left. the newly energized a newly radical left. we have footage of the latest attacks coming from the university of north carolina. we'll show it to you just ahead. but first tonight and related matters, one of the most bill ordering things to watch over the past couple of years has been a steady migration of the american left from concern of civil liberties to an embrace of authoritarianism. it wasn't that long ago that
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liberals worried about powerful government agencies that might be stepping on somebody's rights, they had hearings on the subject. they don't anymore per they don't worry about it anymore pair they applaud it. instead, the left now controls government agencies. they understand a permanent bureaucracy is a powerful tool of social control. they know it's on their side. that's why cnn is so invested in promoting former creepy bureaucrats like comey and the clapper. it's why the news media became absently hysterical when trump pointed out the previous demonstration had spied on this potential campaign, which they absolutely did. the press could not admit that when they had to be absolutely certain that you would never believe it. >> president trump has a new favorite word and every time he uses it, he is lying. that is the word "spy." >> these baseless claims of spy.
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>> telling him don't believe what the federal government is doing and that has dangerous consequences. >> the notion that somehow the fbi implanted, planted someone inside the campaign to spy on the campaign is just not true. >> there is absolutely no evidence there was a spy. >> he wants you to believe that his campaign was spied on and it's one of the worst things that we've ever seen from government. >> tucker: the government's brother. they were all lying people should have been telling you the truth, hiding the truth, acting as willing tools for the surveillance state. they should be ashamed of themselves. they are not. a town hall starring former fbi director jim comey, a pure white wash. should've paid the network for schilling for him. spying, comey said? the fbi doesn't spy. it investigates. >> "the new york times" reported that the fbi send an investigator posing as an assistant to meet with a trump aide george stephanopoulos
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george papadopoulos in 2017? >> i'm not going to comment on a particular investigate of step because that's for the bureau to do. i'm not in the government any longer. the fbi doesn't spy to begin with by the fbi investigates. >> tucker: okay, jim. moments later after telling us, i'm not going to comment on current operations, comey changes his mind. says it was improper to comment specifically, but he did. why? he had to reply that spies invest getting president of campaigns is the most common thing in the world. totally normal in his words! >> sending an investigator undercover to meet with somebody who is connected to the campaign, they claimed he was later on just a coffee boy. that is an extreme step, no? >> that was the guy,
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papadopoulos, the subject of the information we got from the australians that he had talked to the russians. >> did you sign off on the investigation going? >> i don't remember talking about the particular step. i knew they were trying to see if they could check it out. that's a totally normal step. see if you can get someone close to the person and see if they'll confirm what i don't know if i had anything to do with it, but it would be bizarre if you didn't send secret agents to lie to advisors on the campaign, and it's totally normal. of course he doesn't believe it. everyone knows it's terrifying that the obama people sent spies on their political opponents. jim comey says it's normal, and cnn backed him up so be quiet. if you don't agree with that then are the enemy. >> they start to make
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compromises that stay on the team, echo his words and use the term spying, and in the process he has eaten their soul, their loss. >> tucker: ignore the obvious, agree with me or you have no soul. who talks like that? the sort of person who will say or do absolutely anything for power, a scary person talks like that. not long ago, jim comey was one of the most powerful men in the world. you could investigate you or anyone else at will. he could ruin lives if you wanted them to sometimes he did. how did a person like that ascend to a position of such authority in our government? what kind of system would promote a man like that? what kind of media would cover for him? those are the questions we got to be asking tonight. if there was one jim comey and the federal government, that would mean there is many others. eli, thanks very much for coming
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on. when you hear the former director, it's totally normal to send it not one but two investigators into a rebel campaign without telling the candidate, does that sound righ right? >> no, it was a slippery answer because what he was saying is it's normal if we get a lead to investigate it. but the issue here is, not only was there a dangle that appears with some of these trump campaign people and that there were efforts to try to get them to acknowledge things with not one, but two people that were basically informing or spying for the fbi, but once trump wins the election, the existence is not a political weapon. and that there is a clear-cut
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case of surveillance and intelligence abuse of power, and one thing that, the story of the existing counterintelligence. >> which is not supposedly for good reason. >> that's exactly right. >> but leaking an investigation hasn't shown or proved anything. >> and that's the first of several leaks that we know that were gleaned from surveillance such as the mike flynn surveillance with the russian ambassador during the transition or the existence of the fisa warrant or surveillance warrant. it should never, ever be leaked,
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and that was a journalist that someone gave me which is a heck of a story. it's also somewhat compromising the intelligence. it just seems that he's really just buffing his image at this point. >> tucker: it does seem that. i don't think you as a partisan. michael tracy is an independent journalist. if there's one thing is a journalist you want to be on guard against, it's overreached by secretive government agencie agencies. , . it also constituted unnatural
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encroachment by the federal law enforcement and agencies into the domestic political affairs of the united states. and if that was so very normal as james comey insists, can he please provide a president in u.s. history where something akin to that took place? because i've looked and i haven't found it. the term normalcy implies that this is a routine event. one thing that i try to import to my progressive friends that tried to brush this issue aside and don't particularly particularly care about it, if you were telling me that the trump administration were to send a spy or a series of spies to, i don't know, grow and try to entrap a campaign official, and the president gets enshrined and that can then be used for other purposes down the road.
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>> tucker: i want to be absolutely clear on this point because i think it's a central point. this has actually been run down, there is no precedent for this in modern american history. >> the fbi and cia are very secretive institution so there might be something that i didn't personally come across, and i don't know, in the truman association or something. the thing is, all the craziness around this issue and the democrats failing to even convince as scintilla of curiosity about it, and that's why they were freaking out about bill barr and didn't want to acknowledge the impending ig report from the department of justice. in this wormhole that they've been psychologically invested in for years and they can't extricate themselves from it, and it's sad and pathetic to
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watch. >> tucker: and it's hurting so many institutions that we will need when the trumpet era is over. thank you for your perspective. so, this era will end at a certain point. the fbi will still exist, at that point, it will be clear to find out what kind of damage has been done. we would like to get some sense of it now. we are joined by danny colson. thanks very much for coming on. so, as someone who devoted a lot of his life to the fbi, how do you feel watching the former director behaved like that on television? >> it's absolutely disgusting. i was only there for 31 years so i have some sense of the fbi and, currently to see him say that this is normal, this is not normal. there are certain guidelines and principles that we follow. you have to have a preliminary investigation and a full
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investigation, but the real problem here at tucker is that this case didn't start with the fbi field office. it started basically on the seventh floor of the fbi. and when it's done by a field office like iran contra or watergate, you have checks and balances at the very bottom level. these cases will never get to headquarters. this came across my desk, especially in a phis application. it would have done that in about 5 minutes. it's unverified and salacious. i think the question is here, if it was, why would we have the audacity to walk that to the fisa court and give it is something that would be the basis for violence in the fourth amendment issue. so it's not common. it's aggravating and they still do a lot of work for the fbi. the skies go to the academy? don't you know the rules here?
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clearly they did and they ignored them. that's what upsets us all. >> what a tragedy for people that are serving them right now, we are watching their integrity impugned by this lunatic. >> absolutely. we take a lot of pride and credibility. people talk to us because of our credibility and our ability to follow the law and follow the constitution. these guys just jumped right over that. again, maybe this is too strong but i'm going to say it, it's disgusting to see what the director of the fbi says. also this is troubling. the head lawyer for the fbi finds no problem with what happened even now, in retrospect he doesn't have a problem with it. i think that tells you the mentality of the james comey watch on the second floor. >> thank you so much. >> a pro-life campus activist assaulted on video by the left, for her views, and that's next
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>> tucker: a from philadelphia to san francisco, pro-lifers are under attack in america. last march of 35-year-old man n was brutally attacked when he tried to stop a much younger man from stealing his banner. >> old man, stay on the ground. stay on the ground old man, you are going to get hurt.
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>> tucker: is now a student at the university of north carolina has been arrested for assaulting a pro-life activist. carley shimkus joins us tonight. >> high hey tucker, how are yo. it's always been controversial but now it's grown violent. a string of attacks on pro-life activists have taken place in recent weeks. in april a pro-life group was holding a peaceful demonstration eight unc chapel hill. >> it's going to come down. [shouting] >> calm down. >> this is not okay, shut the
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[bleep] up right now. >> this woman just punched my friend four or five times. >> you are a terrible person. >> campus police a arresting julian ward and charging her with assault. last march, and 85-year-old pro-life man was assaulted outside of a planned parenthood in san francisco. disturbing footage shows the attacker throw his bicycle and repeatedly kicked him. after the incident, 85-year-old reportedly went back to planned parenthood to pray but this time with bruises. and then there is representative brian sims who heckled an elderly woman outside of a philadelphia planned parenthood. the incident was caught on camera but this time by sims himself who probably posted it to social media. in a previous encounter, he recorded himself harassing a mother and her teenage daughters and even offering social behavior is $100 to identify them.
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but that situation is backfiring as a group of 1,000 pro-life supporters gathered outside of sims local planned parenthood today. in the meantime, the rhetoric among pro-choice look activist has become extreme. john rogers created waves this week by saying "i'm kids are unwanted, so you kill them now or kill them later. >> tucker: thanks so much. we appreciate it. as you just heard of, painful attacks on the pro-life movement are now normal. you just heard what happened in downtown philadelphia with the pennsylvania representative. here is part of it. >> hello everyone, representative brian sims here and i'm outside of planned parenthood. there's a bunch of pseudo-christian protesters who are shaming young girls. i have $100 to anyone who will identify any of these three. i will donate it to planned parenthood.
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three white people standing outside and shaming people. there's nothing christian about what you are doing. >> tucker: today pro-life activist held a rally outside of that same planned parenthood in response to that behavior. your story was told in a recent film "unplanned." of course, is it our imagination or is the reaction to antiabortion activism including prayer turning violent? but they are not willing to come out and talk about this behavio behavior. nobody from the national organization for women who are supposed to stand up for women, nobody is coming out and condemning this behavior. it just sort of goes unchecked.
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it goes without notice and consequences. there were a thousand other pro-lifers that were there today to say, this is enough. we are not going to be believed, not harassed, we are out there and this is within the first amendment rights to do so. >> tucker: what do you think is driving this. these are people that are arguing for abortion. in some cases post liability and late-term abortion. not only are they ashamed, but they want to hurt anyone who disagrees. where does that come from? >> i think it's a couple things. i think right now abortion supporters are feeling the heat. feeling the pressure. we have these heartbeat bills being signed all across the country, pro-life majors taking place, and now we have a supreme court that is being set up to overturn roe v. wade and
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in some ways it's a response to the sort of impending doom that they feel that role might one day be actually overturned. but i think also, we've got over 60 million abortions on the books recorded since roe was passed in 1973. and we are dealing with a group of people who are very wounded. they are very hurt and they need to really justify their own actions. a lot of times that hurt comes across as anger and they don't see the difference. >> tucker: i think that's exactly right. when you know you are wrong, that is when you are the most mad. that's how i am and that's how most people are. it's sad. thank you very much. the left has recently decided that people's tax returns which were private are now fair game for politics. so what other private information not to be available to everyone? why not your medical records?
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>> tucker: it has been an exciting week for cnn, russian collision is still a lie. but they finally got someone to leak information on donald trump's taxes from 30 years ago. that information show that trump lost money. people at the network were excited about this. >> this is cnn tonight and i don the men.
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are you listening? the president of the united states is a fraud and a con man. you are saying is a sociopath? >> without any question. >> it was a con, all of it? >> this person is a walking fraud. >> he calls people losers and has such disdain but he is literally the biggest loser in the country. >> tucker: if you remember the 90s, you might recall that trump's business problems or real news story. they were real, trump wrote a book about them. but don't tell don lemond, he was shocked. >> you know what they say about casino gambling, the house always wins. well, not always. not if it is a trump casino. come on in. who loses money at a casino except for the person gambling. not the owner. because i'm good enough, smart enough, and doggone it, people love me.
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[laughs] >> tucker: what are the odds that he says that early in the mirror every morning? joe concha joins us from the hill. so this didn't -- they basically discovered that trump lost a ton of money in the 90s which, anyone who is alive then new because it was a major story. but this was news because, why? >> it was presented as a recycled news. i don't like to use the term fake news, tucker but in this case you could have read donald trump's book from 2007, the art of the comeback. you could have read any of the new york tabloids. "the new york post" and "new york daily news" talked about the trump slump. you could have watched their apprentice, season one episode one, the very first segment. donald trump literally says on video that he lost billions of dollars.
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he was billions in debt and he was able to come back. so to keep all of that out of reporting, if we want to call this even reporting, this was the bias of omission and that was the worst kind of bias. and, he was very transparent about it on tv and on books. you are being sold a bill of goods here that, this is new revelation. it was anything but new. >> tucker: this was his whole story. this was -- he bragged about it endlessly. once was lost and now i'm found. did you hear anybody covering this pause for a moment to say, it's a little weird that we are looking at private financial information that is supposed to be proprietary?
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no one is supposed to have this information. did anyone say that? >> no, no one does. i remember i was on your show and we talked about the access hollywood tape. there was a content of it but then there was another part of that story which was, how exactly did that tape get out of nbc and into the hands of "the washington post" ," a major one, three weeks before. that's the fact that was leaked by somebody, confidential information and got into the hands of "the new york times" and obviously will spread everywhere. and by the way, i get that don lemon is on at night and there are a lot of opinions at night but he is still built as an anchor. for him to talk that way an act that way, i could never picture bret baier or chris wallace or david muir ever acting like that and you want to hear about
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struggles. so in cable news, you have to get down to the number 36 out of fox and nbc, number 36 to find the highest rated cnn shovel. the other are the other two networks. they are alienating their viewers by acting like children on the air, but they are doing it and the results are horrible from a business perspective. >> tucker: because it's a political mission, i think that's it. joe concha, great to see you tonight. thanks for that. >> heavy, happy weekend. >> tucker: the new york senate will make it easier for congress to request and publish the president's state tax returns. so while we are going full authoritarian, what else should be fair game? to help figure that out, we are joined now by a new york democratic state senator brian benjamin. thanks for coming on. so it's a sincere question, you want to see trump's tax returns.
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whatever, if they come out i will read them, that's fine. but it's bigger than just trump. is there anything that should be private? >> first of all as you knows on the federal level, the ways and means committee on the senate finance committee and the joint committee on taxation, they can request anyone's federal return returns. all they are saying is if they want state returns, they are able to have that in new york. if either the senate finance chair or the ways and means chair or the joint committee type agent chair, -- >> tucker: why don't you just release them? >> i like to see them and i agree. you are forcing it. >> we are not forcing anything. if it specified and a legitimate legislative purpose, then -- >>
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that's an investigation going on. you know all this is going on. >> tucker: this is total war. and that's fine, whatever it takes. that is not what this bill is about. i'm talking about the principal. why is it different than the principal? you want to destroy somebody because you don't like it. right? >> we want to facilitate the investigations if they are requested. but tucker, i'm open to other things. >> tucker: you don't want to help eyes keep aboard a secure, it's a sanctuary state. but you will help the congress pull a guy's tax returns because you are facilitating an investigation? just be honest. >> they have told them now. but are you saying that what you could do what you are doing at the state level? >> tucker: are you okay with,
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select a "new york times" piece the other day had information from ten years of trump's tax returns. that supposed to be private information and it should not have been leaked. that is not what this bill is about. >> i wonder, is anybody going to stop lying for like ten seconds in the last year? just be honest and say, i don't like the guy. i want to destroy him. i will do whatever it takes. if that means releasing his tax returns against his wishes, i will do that. >> its congressional oversight over the executive branch. if the congress asks for his tax returns, -- that is the law. all we are saying is we want to follow with the federal laws are. >> are you for the fact it is a century state by the way? >> am i for what? >> the fact that it's a sanctuary state. >> i think the fed should be a sanctuary state. i think new york should be a
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sanctuary state. no principles. >> follow the law. tell steven mnuchin to follow the law and provide the tax returns that congress is asking for. >> tucker: then we wouldn't have a problem. it was nice of you to come on the show, i do appreciate that. >> no problem. >> tucker: so what are the plans of the democrat, democratic for your guns? we will tell you after the brea break. ♪
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>> although they want to help school safety, i get it. by focusing on banning guns, not only do gun bans not work but they make us less safe. you want to guarantee a place will have a shooting? make it gun free. the places are guns aren't like this. >> tucker: they wouldn't make the own places gun free. they are surrounded by bodyguards. >> they are surrounded by fences and walls and they call for no wall. it's
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>> tucker: it's friday. naturally things are blowing up. especially dan bongino's news explosion. our former -- favorite former secret service agent and new york city cop here to rank the top three stories of the past
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week. hey, dan. >> hey! tucker, how are you? i'm happy to be here. this is my favorite segment of the week. get to it. the most explosive story of the week. numero tres, number three. joe biden discovers the money fairy and wants to give healthcare to people in the country illegally. have you heard this? this is fascinating. so when you factor out the united states, the world has 7 billion people. of course, there is no rate limiting factor providing healthcare for everyone. how we afford that, i have no idea. but joe biden will figure it out in conjunction with the money fairy. he's got this. >> i can't wait to see the money fairy. >> crazy that happened. explosive story number two of the week. china gets a taste of its own medicine. president trump hammers china back with 25% tariffs. i'm a free trader. i know you probably are, too. but china is not trading
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fairly. we told them when they jumped jd they would handle themselves for freely but it hasn't happened. good for president trump for fighting back. this is a very important story. >> tucker: all right. >> this is big. the gold medal of stories this week. i have to spend a little time on this. this is critical. jerry nadler, jerry nadler competing with adam schiff to be the biggest problem in congress, nadler filing contempt charges against attorney general bill barr for not producing a report, tucker, that you and i can get on our iphones right now. you can go -- did you know this? this may be breaking news. you're laughing but you can go to amazon right now, or barnes & noble or whatever you want to do and pick up a copy of the mueller report that jerry nadler wants to file criminal charges against bill barr for
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not producing. are we living on peak stupid? are you and i crazy or we are peak stupid? this one piece of the reaction that they want that bill barr cannot produce because it's congress' own law. do you find it confusing? you can buy the mueller report. the redactions he wants he can't get because congress created this law of the federal rule 16. again, we are living in the dumbest of times. i'm have to do that. it reminds me of billy madison. do you remember the scene we're all dumber for having heard that now. >> tucker: and degrading, too. hating this much diminishes people. they have been diminished. i think nadler was never that impressive but we wasn't a full on buffoon as he today. dan bongino. >> doesn't it make you feel bad the people are in power? it's pathetic. >> tucker: i wouldn't want them to have more power.
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that would make me very nervous. >> god forbid. >> tucker: dan bongino, have the best weekend. thank you for the explosion. >> you, too. see you next week. >> tucker: a fair of well-known lawmakers proposed a bill to protect americans from predatory lending. it's interesting. why aren't more republicans getting on board? we'll tell you after the break. ♪ ♪ run with us. on a john deere z500 series mower. built to mow better, faster. because sometimes... when you take a look around... you notice... your grass is long... your time is short... and there's no turning back. ♪ ♪ nothing runs like a deere™. run with us. visit your john deere dealer today,
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>> tucker: bernie sanders and alexandria ocasio-cortez have a new proposal out. the lone shark prevention act. their bill would cap interest rates on credit cards at 15%. for a lot of people that would make a difference. the median interest rate on credit cards in this country right now is 21%. some cards charge over 35%. banks meanwhile can borrow money from the federal reserve at 3% interest. do the math. it's a very good business. now you know why they are always sending you offers for new cards. they are getting rich from your debt. the bill would also apply the same 15% limit to consumer
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loans. it would been a, in effect, pay -- it would ban in effect the by aday loans that could exceed 500-600% every year. no doubt many republicans in the congress will oppose the bill because of who sponsored it. bernie sanders and ocasio-cortez are only demagogues. they don't mean half of what they say. the other half they don't understand. they are not impressive. but on this one issue, they are indisputably right. there is a reason why the world's great religions condemn usury. and why societies have restricted it for thousands of years. high interest rates exploit the weak. credit card debt destroys people. not just chronically irresponsibly, but good people. decent people. probably some people you know. maybe a lot of people you know. what the banks are doing is disgusting. it's wrong. the real question is why did it fall to a couple of childish socialists to point
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this out? there is no reason that capping interest rates ought to be a left wing issue. most por mall people agree -- most normal people agree with it over whelmingly. south dakota one of the most conservative states in the country. they went for trump over clinton by 30 points. but they also voted to crackdown on the payday loans and cap interest rates on credit cards. historically fighting usury has been a republican position. in 1991, republican sponsored legislation to cap credit card interest at 14%. that is lower than what bernie sanders is proposing now for perspective. president george h. w. bush endorsed the bill and the senate passed it. so why is that the law -- isn't that the law today? "chicago tribune" at the time said five loans by banking interest and one-day plunge of the stock market killed the bill dead. after that republicans decided to cave permanently. they became the party of wall
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street. what is interesting, though, is wall street is no longer republican. not even close. wall street is the economic engine of the democratic party. finance titans went overwhelmingly for hillary over trump in 2016. chuck schumer is their personal senator. they all have his cell phone. trust me. big finance is one of the most aggressively liberal sectors in this country. if you are watching this show, they despise you. that became very obvious in the last presidential election. the only people that didn't get the clear message are republicans in washington. they are on autopilot. they are still siding with big banks over their voters. it's a lunatic strategy. it won't end well. what happens when you refuse to give people what they desperately need? they go elsewhere. the republicans should not be surprised when that happens. that is it for us tonight. the hour is over. we'll be back 8:00 p.m. monday. the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity,
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smugness and group think. in the meantime, have the happiest, most relaxing weekend. away from politics. away from those devices with the people you love. good night from washington. "hannity" is next. see you monday. ♪ welcome to the special edition of "hannity." justice in america. i'm jason chaffetz in for sean. for the hour we highlight the bad actors in the deep state that must be held accountable and we start with the fired f.b.i. director james comey. last night, the unemployed hyper partisan bureaucrat made another appearance on cnn. where he continued to impugn the character of the president and float baseless conspiracy theories about trump and russia. watch this. >> do you think the russians have leverage over president trump? >> i don't know the answer to that. do you think it's possible? >> yes. i think

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