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martha mcsally was on hand to celebrate the purple heart's return to that family. congratulations to that goodwill guy. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight, that's it for this "special report." fair, balanced, and unafraid. "the story" hosted by martha starts right now. >> martha: good evening, bret. a great story, good to see you tonight. all right, first it was collusion, then the argument was destruction obstruction, and other democrats want to impeach the president for racism. moments ago, the house voted to officially condemn the president's remarks about the women known as the squad, the four freshman congresswoman, and perhaps set the starting point for this third chapter in the impeachment story. so has the goalpost for impeachment been moved yet agai again? >> collusion or conspiracy, whatever you want to call it, to move forward with impeachment on this president. >> this president and his admin is duration of the gauged obstruction of justice.
i believe congress should stick to my take some steps. >> it is time for us to stop allowing this president to make a mockery out of our constitution. it's time for us to impeach this president. >> martha: so now, back in the polls after a device a few days, the democrats have united again against the president. nancy pelosi in a very dramatic moment moved to condemn the president of the united states on the house floor. prompting republican doug collins to yell back and to insist that her comment now be stricken from the record. >> every single member of this institution, democratic and republican, should join us in condemning the president's racist tweets. to do anything less would be a shocking rejection of our values and a shameful abdication of our oath of office to protect the american people.
i urge -- -- >> is going to give the speaker of the house if she would like to rephrase that, bearing >> i've cleared my remarks with the parliamentary before i read them. >> martha: just for some context here in this kind of condemnation on the floor of the house of representatives, you remember when ilhan omar was criticized for anti-semitic remarks like this tweet in which she wrote that support for israel was "all about the benjamin's, baby." the house then basically folded on that condemnation. he argued about it for days. they chose, in the end, not to even name her per se, and lumped in her comments by coming out against all forms of hate speech. at the time, speaker pelosi reacted very differently to omar's remarks. >> it's up to her to explain, what i do not believe that she understood the full weight of the words.
>> martha: let's bring in jim jordan's and i, member of the house judiciary and oversight committee. at what was it like on the floor tonight watching all of this play out? >> democrats are going to stop. there are so focused on going after this president, so focused on getting to impeachment, i believe they are not going to stop at anything, even if it means breaking the rules on the house for where there's a certain level of decorum that you must maintain. at the speaker of the house didn't do that. her words should have been taken down, should have been removed. unfortunately what you end up doing, even though the parliamentary hearing world in mr. collins forever, she just wanted of having to vote on the democrats all voted with her but they are solely focused on doing whatever they can to stop this president instead of frankly working on what can help the country. >> martha: she said she cleared her comments with the parliamentary. >> obviously she didn't, but the parliamentarian would have told the person presiding over the house that her words were okay and we would have moved on. so obviously she didn't. >> martha: a president worked
pretty hard to contain any potential republican defectors on this boat. four of the members of the house that voted yes on this. we are going to put them up on the screen. cumbersome and heard, congressman fitzpatrick, upton, and brooke. you voted no to this. do you believe the president's comments were justified in that we? >> i think the president was expression the frustration that so many americans are feeling about what's going on at the border. understand this, martha. it was just a couple months ago when the president said this is a crisis and all the democrats said no it's not, if manufactured, it's contrived, and it wouldn't provide the money we needed to actually deal with the situation on the border. then when the real crisis gets worse, the democrats say wait a minute, it is a crisis, but it's your fault, mr. president, even though you asked us eight weeks ago, nine weeks ago, ten weeks ago, for help to deal with this, so the frustration he feels is frankly the same frustration the american people feel when they hear comments like abolish i.c.e., abolish dhs, laws are
immoral, noncitizens should vote. these detention centers are concentration camps. at the frustration he feels and i think the american people feel and he was expressing that i think in his statements over the weekend. >> martha: so the four women who call themselves "the squad" said yesterday we are not going to take the bait on any of this and get, you know, they seem to be spending a lot of time talking about this, although they say that they want to move on. they were on cbs died on the evening news with norah o'donnell, let's take a look. >> aren't dealing with the biggest bully i've ever had to deal with in my lifetime and trying to push back on that and trying to do the job that we all have been sent here to do, which is centered around the people at home. this is a distraction. >> do you feel enough republicans have spoken up against the president? >> absolutely not. we just held a vote today. the normalization of it. the fact that it's against our core american values, that they were choosing him over country. >> martha: that was beasley gayle king on cbs this morning.
what you make of those comments? >> these are the same people who said abolish i.c.e., abolish the department of homeland security. i mean, these are the radical positions they have taken. these are the same individuals who have said that that detention facilities can deal with the influx of -- the amazing numbers we've seen on the border, they call these detention facilities concentration camps and were supposed to figure out a way to work with them? it's just difficult. again, i keep using the word frustration, but i know i -- the people i have the privilege of representing, they don't understand why we can't come together and deal with the crisis that's on the border and not have the kind of language we hear from these four members of congress. >> martha: politically, is this fight really exactly where president trump wants to be? politics is all about contrast and these women are creating a heck of a lot of contrast for president trump and for your party. >> president trump wants to be where the country is right now because of his leadership. taxes cut, the economy growing
at an unbelievable rate. lowest on employment in 50 years, we are out of the iran deal, the embassy is in jerusalem, the hostages are home from north korea at a whole bunch of other things. that's where the president wants to be and he's going to keep doing the things he told the american people he was going to do when he they elected him and that includes dealing with the border, that includes building the border security wall, fixing our salamat and dealing with this crisis that for weeks and weeks and weeks the democrats that was manufactured, it was fake, it wasn't real. then it gets so bad, wait a minute, it is real, and it is your fault, mr. president even though we've done nothing to help you deal with it. if that's what's going on here and that's with the president is going to campaign on. >> martha: i want to ask you one question about robert mueller's testimony, which has now been moved to next week. it is going to happen next week, is that your understanding? >> i think so. but i may come about, jerry nadler told me this is going to happen to a half months ago. scheduled for next week. we will see. we are working on what we are going to ask them. we look forward to it and we'll see how it goes. >> martha: let me play something from devin nunes last night on sean hannity, watch
this. >> i fear what's going on right now is that mueller is working with a lot of his staff who are back channeling to the democrats, so it is very possible that mueller is going to have a few little sound bites that are going to give the democrats exactly what they want. >> martha: he suggesting that robert mueller has been fed specific things to say that will allow democrats to sink their teeth into some of these phrases for impeachment proceedings or impeachment investigation. >> we will see. i guess it wouldn't surprise me if that's going on, but i don't know. will just have to wait and see. there's the one thing i do know though. the investigation, the attorney general of the united states has asked john durham to do, which is to get to the bottom of the origins of this entire thing, the spying that took place and everything else, that the investigation that counts, like the one i'm looking forward to. when we get the results of investigations next week we will ask questions and see how it goes. >> martha: congressman jordan, thank you very much, good to see her tonight.
>> thank you very much. >> martha: former president consul under president clinton annie fox news contributor. as we sort of laid out in the introduction, thank you for being here tonight, there have been sort of different chapters of the argument for impeachment and it almost seems like you get past one of them and it kind of falls to the wayside, but then there's another reason why this president needs to go, and quickly, according to the people who believe that. the latest one is that he makes racist comments. is that an impeachable offense if that's what he did? >> i don't think so, if that's what he did, and i beasley people are going to debate and reasonably differ over the nature of those comments. but when you talk about impeachment, we are in a stage of our history where impeachment is becoming the tool of first resort as opposed to last resort. and, martha, you and i know that is not what the founding generation wanted, not what they intended, so we need to bring
this back and have a debate, have a discussion, have a vote, but let's put the impeachment talk aside. we know there's not going to be a majority or even -- much less a super majority, in favor of the impeachment of the president of the united states, so they should march on. >> martha: what did you make of this note tonight? >> i think at least expressing themselves through this kind of resolution to me -- whether i would have voted in favor of it or not, make sense as opposed to let's start impeachment. so yeah, express or disapprobation or your approval as the case may be. notice a lot of folks want boating. i think a lot of the elected members would like to see my just as ben said, let's move forward, let's talk about the real issues. >> martha: what you think about the national conversation that's going on? i just wonder if somebody sort of had tuned out for several years and then turned on the television and here's the things that are being discussed in america right now, and here's the way that these democrats,
not all democrats, but these democrats, feel about things like ice, feel about things like dhs, which was created to protect americans after 9/11, what do you think? >> very deep divide, the kind of polarization that we just have not seen. we do not have the foreign enemy at war. we have threats from china, threats from russia and so forth. so we don't have a view of the dome a unifying force in heaven forbid that there be a 9/11, but i think we are a deeply divided country, but here's the good news, we've always been deeply divided. and we always will be deeply divided. i just wish the rhetoric were a little bit toned down. >> martha: i want to ask you one quick question before i let you go. you talked the other night about your involvement in the epstein case. today information that came out that says that he was -- even when he was under basically house arrest he was allowed to go home and work during the day in the florida arrangement that he got that he was continuing these attacks during the time that he was under house arrest.
>> i don't know. my role in that connection was simply limited to one thing, that the allegations that we had were state allegations and did not implicate at all federal interest. that was the state of the information that we had and also that alex acosta, who i think conducted himself honorably, but nonetheless, he's taken the position that he should step down, but in any event, let's see what these allegations are, and we'll find out. >> martha: ken starr, good to see her tonight, thank you very much for being here. >> you back, thank you. >> martha: thank you. so president barack obama promised to unite the country. this was before he became president. >> there is not a black america and a white america and latino america, and asian america. there is the united states of america. >> martha: sounds like a very different time, doesn't it? now there is a call for him to
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♪ >> it's because folks like you, folks like me, it's how workers rights came about and women's rights came about and civil rights and immigrants rights and lgbt rights. that is how the story of america became a story of progress, because we got out there and did the work. >> martha: that was president obama during the midterms proving to be one of the democrats most effective advocates during that election. but he is largely so far in this process remained silent for the moment. now a new column in "the washington post" argues that his return to the national conversation is long overdue. arguing that president obama is
one of the few people who can bring our country back from the brink. she writes "president obama, what we need more than anything else right now is someone who can lift this country's sites against, someone who can charge us as you once did with a mission to march into the future. let us keep that promise, the american promise, and in the words of scripture, hold firmly without wavering to the hope that we confess. find your voice again, reclaim your legacy, do it now. she says we cannot wait for your memoirs, we need it now. joining me now, marc theissen, cohost of the american enterprise institute new podcast what is going on and fox news contributor, and chris, do you want me to say that for you on podcast? former aide to senator chuck schumer. i have to wonder, chris, that longing for president obama. on the one hand, she wants him to be a voice of stability and civility, but on the other hand, does it signal that there's
something deeply missing in the democrat field? >> i think it's a little bit of both, martha. if i was running for president right now i would be channeling obama's optimism of america and contrasting it with the president pessimism and doing america somehow as as a pastoral scene from the gallant south, which most americans fear, so i think it's time for whoever is running for president right now to start looking at obama's tapes, finding that voice, and if you don't have that voice, maybe it's time to get off the stage. there's too many of you anyway. and i think we're going to find somebody like that. crises like these bring out the best in people who want to lead, let's see what happens. >> martha: really, what do you think? >> obama is obvious that an iconic figure in the democratic part of it with the exception of joe biden," which are, people, the entire democratic field is running against his legacy. if you think about it, obamacare is considered to be to moderate today in the democratic party. obama said to the american people if you like your health plan, you can keep your health
plan. it was a lie, but at least he felt compelled to lie to the american people because he thought that's what they wanted. today democrats say medicare for all. >> mark. mark buried your missing the moment, mark buried >> nor not. >> the moment right now is to define america, this racist chaos, '30s, an 'and factory 50s. to tell somebody to go back to where they came from. my grandfather who came here from germany was told to go back where he came from because he was a jew. when they hear language like that from the president of united states who should have grace, who should rise above this rhetoric and be welcoming to all, you long for somebody like obama, whether you agree with him or not. >> do know why donald trump is in the white house? i will tell you why donald trump is in the white house today. it's because millions of americans in states like michigan and ohio and pennsylvania who voted twice for barack obama are not racist, voted twice for the first african-american president in
history, switched the poster donald trump. >> there will the dice. they rolled the dice, my friend. in the meantime, i don't think they're going to roll the dice that way again. >> are you going to stop interrupting me? the reason they switched is because obama promised them hope and change and they got me there. they lost 200,000 manufacturing jobs on obama and biden's watch and barack obama actually said get used to it, those jobs aren't coming back. 500,000 manufacturing jobs under donald trump, the lowest unemployment -- >> obama had 11% unemployment when he took over. he had 4% when he left. >> martha: hold on. chris, chris. all on, guys. hold on. chris, the fact of the matter is that donald trump won the presidential election, that he won in the state that mark mentioned. i know it's not by a margin that impresses you, but the matter of fact is that he won the electoral college. and that's the situation -- he also reached out to the so-called forgotten americans
who came out and voted in a way that they had not in a long time and some of them did vote for president obama and then they switched over and voted for president trump. those are all facts. that's not an exaggeration. there's nothing inaccurate about that. i want to play this from joe biden this morning. because he is trying very hard to be the legacy to president obama despite the fact that president obama has chosen so far not to endorse him or come out in support of him. a bee that will come down the road. here's joe biden this morning. >> a lot of people want to know about your relationship with president obama. are you in contact? you worked with him for eight years. you were bud's. why no endorsement? >> because i've asked him not to do that. i don't want to put him in that spot. and i want to earn this on my own. this is not a third term of obama. the world has changed. it's different. we have the same value set, hand
eye, and i don't think we give him enough credit. he's a guy that our kids can look up to and they did look up to. >> martha: here's my question for you, chris, when you talked a moment ago about someone taking that mantle, someone speaking that way, someone being eloquent talking about hope and change, is joe biden the person that jumps into your mind when you imagine that legacy? >> he's not. i will be honest with you -- i don't know, you might still have a chance to be president of the united states, but i'm not seeing it the last couple of weeks. he needs to turn things around in a dramatic way between now and september. if he doesn't, he's done. >> martha: mark, what do you think? >> i think you're right, chris, that joe biden is not picking up the obama mantle, but is the only one carrying the obama policy mantle. democratic party has gone so far left. remember when barack obama said during his state of the union address that it is absolutely false that illegal immigrants will get health care under my plan and joe wilson stood up and said you lie.
and he apologized for that, he shouldn't have done that, but guess what, he's been vindicate vindicated. >> yeah, okay... >> martha: they said they will health care to illegal aliens. >> illegal aliens had health care right now when i go to the emergency room. we have to find a realistic way to pay for it and stop this nonsense that we are not paying for it. we are american, we don't deny character people are sick and dying in hospital. he could just put them on a plan. >> martha: that's clear. that is the democratic platform right now. all illegals should be covered. >> should they deny care to people who are undocumented? >> nobody says they should be denied care. >> is aware getting health care in america. filibustering. you pay for it in a normal way. we would rather spend triple what we could pay. >> martha: chris is going to blow a gasket, mark, one last thought. >> you know what, there's a difference between denying illegals health care at hospita
hospital. and having a policy of decriminalizing a border crossing. free health care for illegal aliens which will turn america into a magnet for people to come up here. free stuff, socialism, and open borders is a path to national suicide and that the democratic party 5. >> martha: everything is going to be free and are going to be taken care of, is absolutely no reason -- absolutely, you have to come in legally, chris. if you have to come here legally, just as generations of ancestors did. that's the way -- the fact that there is no process is on congress. it's on congress and its on democrats right now. >> the 2013 border security economic opportunity and immigration, modernization act that passed the senate with lindsey graham supporting it. if they introduce it in the house today it would pass and it would have to pass the senate again and the president could get it done and be a hero for it and maybe put this racist incident behind him. >> martha: all right, we are going to leave it there. he's not going to blow a gasket. he's in good shape.
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engaged through social media and other things. obviously the immigration issue has been front and center every day as well. there are 2020 impact could decide this election. as tight margins in swing states where they have large populations like arizona, nevada, florida, pennsylvania could decide this presidency. >> [speaking spanish] >> right before he leaves, right before he walks off, i'm going to tell him adios. >> i went up 17 points because on top of the border because the hispanics want toughness of the border. if they don't want people coming in, taking their jobs. they don't want criminals to come, because they understand the border by than anybody. >> [speaking spanish] >> martha: i'm joined by the bipartisan panel of hispanic voters, thank you all so much
for being here. let's start with you. what goes through your mind when you hear that, when all the candidates sort of do their moment where they are speaking spanish, what do you think? >> i cringe. [laughs] >> martha: anybody else cringe when that happens? >> especially cory booker. i love the effort, but you could do a better job. i could teach them. >> martha: would you rather they not do it and just speak english to everyone in america where do you think it serves a purpose? >> if they didn't have the intent that they had i feel that it would be -- it would be a lot more appealing to people, but the problem is and will cory booker, he's my senator, beto o'rourke and julian castro, they're all doing this bipartisan hackery. a lot of them are doing it just to tell them vote democrat, we can >> members. out of nowhere comes to politics it's a lot more than trying to relate to people at an identity level. a lot of it's down to the actual issues like what we are concerned about the most was about immigration or the economy or jobs because it's not just
immigration that hispanics care about. >> martha: absolutely not. i think with every generation, as more people, more groups of immigrants over the course of history become more and more active in politics and more established in the country, obviously you care about everything, right? what do you care the most about? >> what i care the most about right now with be what we're doing with families. i will say i will be that person with that voice about keeping families together. i live in an area of eastern long island that is basically fueled by immigrant labor. it is what it is, the beauty of it is, the parent is that it is because of the immigrant labor that has been there for a number of generations and yesterday we were hoping to different families that were both the focus of the raids that happened yesterday in our area. those were not hardened criminals, that was a father and a daughter and a mother and her daughter, two separate families that did not even know if they had a removal order and therefore they were the ones that were the subject of this particular raid. that is not a hardened criminal, that is something that shouldn't be happening. >> martha: whether taken away?
>> they were not taken away. they actually have been heeding the advice of many advocates in our area, which was to not answer the door, and they in fact right now are safe someplace and we are going to make sure that they remain so. >> i'm a retired police officer, so we dealt with issues and for the most part immigrants are here to work and to maintain and do jobs that in reality a lot of americans won't do. but in that mixture their culture sometimes doesn't mix with hours and they don't really have any other family, so they tend to almost fight with themselves and some alcohol because they are lonely, they are away from their families and the kind of lens sometimes to alcohol and to working six, seven days a week and then when they get a free time, sometimes trouble happens and police officers and other people really
don't understand the difference in that culture. it >> martha: so you're saying that the pattern as a police officer that you saw with some of the recent immigrants? >> correct. >> martha: what goes through your mind when you hear this conversation? >> i'm a teacher in an urban district and i see something different. i get to see the children and the parents and i guess see a little bit of everything. you can't really generalize. but i see people that come to work hard, they come with that american dream and they come seeking refuge and i just see a different picture. >> martha: let me just ask you, did the rate actually come, did someone bang on the door and try to get them to come out? >> yes. yes, the rate happened in southhampton and bridgehampton and east hampton and riverhead. and i do want to kind of echo a sentiment, because we get to work a lot -- i get to work a lot directly with law enforcement and actually really love it so we get to do latino diversity training with law enforcement that essentially is just keeping a dialogue going
so that some of the stereotypes are some of the myths that we can break on both sides so latinos don't want to look at law enforcement a particular way that's only negative. we want to break those kinds of barriers. what i do see though is that a lot of times law enforcement, when you're doing that job, you're encountering people often times in crisis and not at their best so i think with education i think other aspects of our community, the face that our community has, -- catholic masses are 600, 700 people strong in spanish, so what we are working also with our latino youth leadership, these are folks, we've got 45% latino student body across our 20 plus east and district. they are valedictorians, solutes dorians. they are leaders so we see a lot of that as well. there's definitely crisis, but that's why we work together on that. >> martha: so a lot of attention on alexandria ocasio-cortez. she's from new york. what do you think about when you hear what she's saying, do you feel like she speaks for you?
>> no, absolutely not. because the problem is, especially with the democratic party, a lot of them feel that they are entitled to any nonwhite book that they can get, especially latinos and latinos of course, there's going to be 32 million registered voters this year. that's a lot. and to think that all hispanics think the same is just ridiculous. people from puerto rico tend to vote more democrat, people from cuba and venezuela tend to vote more republican and a lot of that is because they understand what socialism is. they understand what aoc and bernie sanders socialist policies are to the highest extent and office but they don't want a repeat of that in the united states and i feel the exact same way. >> martha: what do you think >> my parents are cuban, they came from a first generation and i kind kind of feel the same w. i find that the democrats are leaning too far to the left and that something that bothers me and although i grew up a republican, because when you're cuban, -- >> martha: it you're usually a republican. >> that's really ingrained.
as i got older i became more of an independent and right now i'm leaning more towards the democrats. >> martha: would you like? >> i feel that aoc's trump reelection committee. that's what i fear. right now i really don't have one person, maybe biden, but there's just so many candidates, so many issues that i feel that i feel like i have to give it one time. >> martha: let me take a little mini pole and no one is going to hold you to it, but if the election were held today, would you vote for? >> president trump. >> biden. >> probably warren. >> trump. >> martha: very interesting. thank you all very much for being here and i hope you will come back because it's a long process and we would love to check in and see sort of how you are feeling about all of this later in the process. thank you very much for being here. >> thank you. >> martha: great panel, thank you guys. next. >> the department of justice
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difficult-2-watch a video. tonight we know that the department of justice has made the call not to charge daniel. trace gallagher group joins us from our west coast newsroom with this story tonight. hi, trace. >> prosecutors were definitely at a stalemate, civil rights division recommended that charges be brought against the officer, but the u.s. attorney's office for the eastern district of new york disagreed saying the government's burden of proof could not be met, and here's why. my senior doj official tells fox news they could not prove that the officer and other officers were acting "willfully" during the confrontation despite videotape showing eric garner saying "i can't breathe" at least 11 times. watch. >> the officer was not engaged in a choke hold on mr. garner when he said he could not breathe, and neither the officer nor any other officer applied a
choke hold to mr. garner after he first said he could not breathe. >> the doj also relied on the supreme court case graham v connor or the court ruled that "not every push or shove violates the fourth amendment, meaning the right to be secure against unreasonable search and seizure. the court also ruled that officers must make split-second decisions, so in this case the government would have to prove the officers were acting with "some clarity of thought." ultimately attorney general bill barr made the call not to bring charges after several briefings with lawyers on both sides of the issue, which did not sit well with 2020 democratic president of candidates elizabeth warren and cory booker, who tweeted the following. "this decision is wrong, unjust, and a painful reminder of just how broken our criminal justice system is. eric garner should be alive today. i pray his loved ones can find peace."
we should note that a state grand jury also refused to indict officer pantaleo and the nypd is in the process of conducting its own investigatio investigation, the family of eric garner is now calling for officer pantaleo to be immediately fired. >> martha: thank you very much, trace gallagher from l.a. coming up next, a breaking update on the city council story, remember this story that we brought you? they voted to do away with the pledge of allegiance at the beginning of their meeting. an update tonight next. ♪ >> into the republic for which it stands. one nation under god. usa!it usa! ♪ it never questions the tasks at hand. but this year, there's a more thrilling path to follow. (father) kids...
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♪ >> martha: an update on a story that we first brought you last week. after days of protest in minnesota, a local city council been reversed course on their decision to stop reciting the pause of allegiance at their meetings at the top of the meeting. they voted unanimously, in fact, to reinstate the pledge. members of the firestorm of controversy took a toll on the city and its workers. so we see a lot of presidential candidates on tv these days and there are a lot of similarities and some of the positions that
they take about themselves and about them the country. for as one example from beto o'rourke just days after the fourth of july. >> this country was founded on white supremacy and every single institution and structure that we have in our country still reflects the legacy of slavery and segregation and jim crow and suppression, even our democracy. >> martha: that was remarkable. rich lowry responded to that comment in a new op-ed today writing this. "just in case the newcomers were inclined to believe that they had escaped to the greatest country on earth, and open, dynamic, generous society that whatever their struggles now will afford them opportunities unimaginable back home. beddoe was there to tell them of all its sins. he has made himself into an instrument of woke assimilation. joining me now to talk about this and give us their opinions this evening, charlie kirk and
leslie marshall, progressive radio talk show host and a fox news contributor. good to have both to be with us tonight. that is a very striking comment that beto o'rourke made, every single institution and structure in the united states of america still basically finds its footing in a discriminating stomach discriminatory culture. >> i don't know what country is talking about. if that's not america. i don't understand what part of the population the democrats are catering to hear. what i can understand, donald trump stole the base of the democratic party away from them, working-class voters, i guess this is an attempt by democrats to find a new base. essentially the reagan democrats of the '80s in '90s that voted for clinton and gore and kerry, they now came to donald trump. the democrats are searching rapidly for a base that doesn't believe this is the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world and it's troubling and depressing for
even myself as a patriot to have to see this sort of conversation happen. it's very, very disturbing. >> martha: does a lot of sort of down, negative feeling. and it's interesting because chris hahn was all fired up earlier tonight, leslie, and he was saying someone needs to bring back sort of that positive message about the country, that hopefulness, that president obama had buried it seems to be missing in this field right now. >> i wouldn't disagree that we need some more hope and change. it beto o'rourke isn't even in the top five, so he certainly doesn't speak for the democratic party. he's not going to be the democratic nominee. recently beto o'rourke admitted that he was an ancestor of slave owners and perhaps he was doing some soul-searching but historically is not that off. white men came into this country and slaughtered, massacred, native americans to take the land and make the country their own at one time. we do see in our current justice system, we do see in our current economic system i think things
that hearken back to some of our sins historically. >> martha: we have had over the last decades generations of people who have come to this country from immigrants who have made this country very strong, and i know there's a huge debate radio about legal immigration versus illegal immigration. the whole message was to become american, to embrace what the country offered. to aspire to have the american dream for you and your family and it feels like there's this feeling of, you know, just having to sort of put on the mantle of shame about so much, charlie. >> yeah, so the one thing i will say, if this was really true, why is it that asian-americans are actually the wealthiest and highest incomes of any group in america? that would actually go against the idea that the entire country is built on which the pharmacy still. u.s. constitution was not written in korean, it wasn't written in chinese, but it shows that any individual, any person that comes here with hard work
and entrepreneurial attitude can succeed. i'm really depressed to see that a whole party seems to be positioning away from that. >> martha: leslie, super quick final document >> it's not a whole party position to weigh, but i think in light of some comments recently made by the president towards four minority individuals who have achieved the american dream, i don't think that some of the fear of hatred along those lines is unwarranted. >> martha: well put, both of you. thank you very much, good to have you here tonight. more of "the story" coming up next. i was there, just not always where i needed to be. is she alright? i hope so. so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira is for people who still have symptoms of crohn's disease after trying other medications. and the majority of people on humira saw significant symptom relief and many achieved remission in as little as 4 weeks. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers,
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