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167 miles-an-hour. and that's how fox reports this sunday august 18th of 2019. i'm jon scott. thanks for joining us. see you again next weekend. and i will see you tomorrow morning for america's news headquarters. ris wallace.>> that is all for us. >> i'm dana perino in for chris wallace. the president delays tariffs on china amid concerns a drawnout trade war could hit home. [inaudible] markets are bouncing back after planes but investors are weary as china threatens to retaliate. >> i never said china would be easy. they want to make a deal, >> will discuss the presence move and concerns for a recession with our white house economic advisor, larry kudlow. then montana governor and democratic presidential
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candidate, steve bullock comes out swinging against the d&c. will ask the governor about his uphill climb to make the next debate stage, "fox news sunday" exclusive. plus, new fox news poll show senator elizabeth warren surging and president trump is taking notice. >> i did the pocahontas thing and it looked like she was down and out. but that was too long ago i should have waited. no worries. >> will ask the sunday panel if the -- about the biden front runner status. hello again from fox news in washington. a turbulent week the president announced he will delay tariffs on chinese goods in order to save holiday sales. the u.s. china trade war could hurt u.s. consumers. the dow plunged 800 points wednesday but recovered some losses. another president is in bedminster new jersey. in a moment will speak live with white house economic advisor larry kudlow about reports of why they are trying to reassure people that we are on firm footing.
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but first kevin with the latest. before thanks to an inverted yield curve, fears of the dreaded r word, recession. completely convinced the u.s. economy is now the best in the world, it is the best bet for american voters in 2020. the week that was on wall street earned a letter grade it would get a v for volatility. sliding 1.5 percent a reaction say xmas to a number of factors including the u.s. china trade dispute. ongoing unrest in hong kong and the inverted yield curve. with a longer note like the 10 year offering less than shorter treasuries like the two year. even as a 30 year yield default to an all-time record low. while there are signs of optimism for example retail sales have jumped 3.4 percent from one year ago, consumer confidence has fallen.
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6.4 percent from july. >> i will never ever let you down, that i can tell you. >> undaunted, president trump took his message of economic evangelism on the road to new hampshire this week. a key 2020 target for the gop war on appointment is low and democratic promises of an economic overhaul have been met with skepticism. >> you have no choice but to vote for me. because your 401(k) 's down the tubes, everything will be down the tubes. so whether you love me or hate me, you've got to vote for me. >> on friday, the chairman of the federal reserve, jerome powell will make comments on economy. of course is a frequent target of the president. it will give us a chance to measure the impact on the markets and obviously gauge white house reaction as well. dana? dana: kevin corke reporting live mark, thank you so much. and join them in our white house economic advisor, larry kudlow. welcome to "fox news sunday".
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>> thank you, dana. appreciate it. >> is been mixed economic numbers this week. were talking about the dow dropped and them bounce back, retail sales are up, job growth continues, manufacturing slowing down. is the administration considering any new legislative policies or executive actions to stave off what some are saying could be a possible coming recession? >> first of all i do not see a recession at all, second of all, the trump progrowth program which i believe it has been succeeding, lower tax rates, being rolled back regulations, energy opening, trade reform, we will stay with that, we believe that is the heart of the free enterprise. we want an incentive oriented supply-side economy. providing opportunities for everybody across the board and as you report, we have brought retail sales, let me just pause there, consumers first of all,
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they are working. employment numbers are terrific. second of all, they are working at much higher wages. third of all, they are spending. and forth interestingly, they are saving even while they are spending. that is about as good as it gets and i notice at the end of the week, a lot of the wall street has been marking up economic growth forecast. we are in good shape want to say we should not be afraid of optimism. i don't know what it is everyone wants to talk about pessimism, recession on the horizon. what is wrong with a little optimism? >> you know me i'm an optimist. i wonder why the president called on the banks that they when it went down. your message from the white house, there is no recession coming and we are just calling to assure you that we think the economy is on firm footing and no additional measures are needed? >> i do not think additional measures are needed. now hang on, i want to talk
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about the ongoing china negotiations. we will get to that in a moment perhaps. we are looking at the usmca, nafta two -- 2.0. a good deal of european union finally making great progress on japan with respect to agriculture and various telecommunications. so those are new initiatives. trade initiatives and we may be doing much better on china is a tough one. that is the add on. the potentially progrowth trade deals with china, with japan and the eu. >> we talk about beef and a trade deal you know me i'm from wyoming, i love talking about this kind of deals.
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but i do wonder about an idea that president trump mentioned late last year that would certainly help a lot of people. this is what he said in 2018. watch. >> we are going to be putting in a 10 percent tax cut for middle income families. it is going to be put in. >> is that still on the table? >> we are looking at it! tax cuts 2.0. we'll get there. senator rick scott of florida, very smart guy, made interestingly proposal, into the network last week he said look, why don't we take the tariffs from the china trade and turn those back to the taxpayers in the form of tax cuts, that is an idea. >> piraino is in all of that money going to shore up our farmers? >> we have room to do that as well. i mean look, let's let people keep more of what they earn, let's let them keep more of what they invest, that is the
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supply-side. we believe in that. i cannot say definitively this morning, i am saying there's a lot of good ideas, to create more incentives to work, save and invest. president trump is transforming and rebuilding this economy. we have done very well in the first two years. just short of three percent which is kind of a miracle as we face severe monetary restraints from the fed. seven rate hikes, i think they are reversing that now. but that was tough going. but no, i want an open economic freedom and opportunity economy for entrepreneurs, large businesses, small businesses and again, look at the consumer, consumers are working, wages are rising, their spending and they are saving. a lot of wall street firms looked at the numbers last week and they raised their forecast.
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so no, there is no recession in sight. quincy said we'll talk about a trade war with china. with some investors i think they have heartburn but donna is also taking a hit according to the slowest gdp in 27 years since 1992. here's what the white house trade advisor peter navarro said this week about that. >> the endgame is clear, to have china stop engaging in these acts and economics, the cost is over 70,000 factories. >> china threshold for paintings is pretty high even the president knowledge this week it could impact consumers and delay the announcement of additional trade tariffs, how do you think this will end and can you assure us that any deal with china makes it possible for countries to believe that the intellectual and proprietary property will not be taken by them? >> that is a key point! right there. that is a very key point. we are in kind of a technological war with china. we cannot let them steal our family jewels. which is the heart of the american economic growth, where
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the only economy growing and the rest of the world. look, the tariffs have hurt them enormously. and as i think you mentioned, you have a bunch of numbers, steps coming out of china last week all of them down. i think the production number was the worst in 17 years. business investment is falling, retail sales are in economic trouble. president trump is using tariffs in order to put more pressure on the chinese economy, i think his strategy is in fact working. what we did, we gave some relief to big american consumer companies for christmas because it already locked in their orders and in dollar terms and prices. so will give them some relief and exclude them but on december 15, 10 percent tariff is likely on the rest of the $300 billion to take place. one other point on china. look, kudlow acxiom better to
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talk than not talk. that's usually the case. so, we had a successful conference call, secretary mnuchin and ambassador lighthizer. point number two, in the conference call, they agreed with the chinese team that the deputies will be meeting by teleconference in the next week or 10 days. point number three, if those deputies meetings pan out, as we hope they will and we can have a substantive renewal of negotiations, then we are planning to have china come to the usa and meet with our principles to continue the negotiations and continue the talks. president trump has said, he is willing to negotiate, he is willing to make a deal.
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it's got to be the right deal to protect american interests. i said a million times, the presidents goal is very simple. he wants to defend the american economy. and china which has been stealing intellectual property and forcing technology for transfers and cyber hacking, china has got to play by the rules. china has got to have lower barriers across the board, no more unlawful practices. this can be done over a period of time if they are willing to do it. we are willing to talk as i said, the phone calls last week actually produced a lot more positive news than has been reported in the media and i am hopeful. -- >> a lot of those calls are in private so i take your word that they were better than, we are not there listening but there are a series of ongoing issues on parallel tracks during this trade war. the ministrations reportedly going to grant another temporary reprieve for huawei
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the president has walked a very careful on about the protests in hong kong, you know that took place in russia and the united states is poised to sell taiwan $8 billion in fighter jets so it surely is going to wrangle china even further and as we might be able to separate all those issues out, to the chinese? >> well, yes the chinese are very smart. they know quite well. we have the american interest not only economic interest but our security interest. it is very important. with respect to hong kong, you have another weekend, hundreds of thousands of people protesting. for freedom, for voting rights, against arbitrary extradition, we are on the side of freedom democracy, that is the presidents view. that is what america does, it is part of our idea, we want to
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help hong kong. president has said he would like to talk to president xi jinping about a peaceful and remain solution to the hong kong story. might hong kong interfere with the trade deal? well, i don't really want to get there at this point. all i will say is, we do not want violence in the united states. we want a humane ending. and if that can happen of course, that might bolster the trade deal so i will leave that they are but the chinese know full well, that trade, security, hong kong, these things are all part of the general landscape. and we are protecting our consumer companies. they got stuck, they made their deals with china suppliers months ago. the supply chains, the prices. we have decided to give our companies, this is just for the united states, our companies, some extra time so they won't
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have to jack up prices, the goal here is very simple. when you have want to minimize any impact on the american consumers so far it's been virtually the hero. i just saw forecast, professor near fulkerson of harvard and never hoover institute china, china is paying for these tariffs by a ratio of about 4 to 1. that's what we expected to happen. >> larry i've enjoyed having you. i've a last contribute if you get asked to do a site survey about purchasing greenland, can i go with you? [laughter] >> maybe i will run the central bank. it's an interesting story. is developing, we are looking at it, we don't know. years ago, harry truman wanted to buy greenland. denmark owns greenland, denmark is an ally, greenland is strategic place up there and they have a lot of valuable
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>> president trump this week on his handling of the u.s. china trade war. and it is time now for our sundaygroup, jason chaffetz, former republican congressman, juanwilliams , fox news poll at the -- analyst -- josh holmes, you heard larry kudlow just now, he doesn't think there is a recession coming is at the general view in the white house? >> there is an opinion in the white house. on economics lines that really have been coming for a couple of months but just happened over the last couple of weeks. the inverted yield curve that we all now know is a traumatic none of us probably had. >> i kept thinking of credit default swaps but -- >> exactly. we all learned what that was back then and we are learning what this is. this is basically just an indicator in the bond markets which are often other countries
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are not doing as well, china not doing as well. the point is that our economy is okay but are they considering doing anything? i heard of a middle-class tax cut is on the table? >> you invited them to say what the additional steps would be and he responded with a series of existing proposals for trade deals and trade initiatives. and said that they are considering a tax cut. but clearly if they wanted to do that they could have moved on already. it is still under consideration, he is right. our sources tell us that white house is looking at other ways that they can add to this demos but trump is running out of options to do that. he is really already used most of the things that are within his immediate executive -- dana: what the republicans want him to do in the economy? they 100 talk about a lot into 2018. the economy is good, on a plane is down, wages are rising especially for the lower levels
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so what would republicans want him to do now if anything? >> i think the republicans in the heartland are actually going after nancy pelosi and democrats for not passing out the usmca. i think republicans need to turn the corner into the deals are ready to go farmers wanted, business interest want it, it's really in her camp not donald trump. he's in her thinking to reduce regulation, cut taxes. dana: can they do anything more does the president need to put his shoulder behind this even more? >> yes they need to ratchet it up. i want with joni ernst and kim reynolds and i will what they been doing, they been doing on the ground, grassley is going around doing that.>> we know it has to happen from the white house peer. >> presidential candidates also need to be asked this question and the media doesn't. dana: juan, the presidents position is to be tough on
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china but can they draw a contrast between what the president is doing and what they would do differently or should even try or just get behind him? >> i think most americans including democrats want to confront china on their trade policies. clearly they have stolen intellectual property, there is a need for this but i think donald trump 's british approach is the problem. -- bruttish approaches the problem. i think we series the unpredictably of trump and with global recession. you cannot do that it barely unpredictability something that really scares wall street because it depresses a likelihood of capitol investments which is necessary for stock growth. dana: josh's is an asset or liability for the president and for the democrats, will cover this closely, what is there compelling economic message as
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a contrast to that president trump is provided? >> i will start with that piece. i don't to the habit as long as the economy is good everything democrats in 2020 you're talking about are fundamentally opposed to where the american people are. you do not want to restrict an economy that's working for those people. on the first piece, predictably i think the answer is both. it is extremely good for negotiation purposes. i think we've got china basically confused about how to get out of this because they need a solution as much as ours does. but on the market side is not great. you can see the markets react to sort of ongoing, lack of clarity about where the offramp is to china. i think they have to do that. the other thing that to jason's point, their multifaceted approach to what we are doing. nancy pelosi will not pass tax cuts for the american people period. which might under enough pressure possibility the usmca which will have huge impact on
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american consumers. >> i think that the trade war aspect is what i was getting at is that it's not, we are not winning because the president has had to delay even the tariff. first he said, were not paying for the tariffs, china is. now he says i'm delaying the terrace because it will drive consumer cost up into the holiday season. that is not good for americans economy. >> your premise your initial comments were that everyone agrees we have confront china, it's multifaceted. >> and something else i wanted to ask jason your thoughts on this. what i heard larry kudlow subtly same to the chinese is that we do not want to see violence in hong kong. like we need this to be a peaceful resolution. the president said that. i feel like the united states has been sending a message to china for the protesters saying do not do anything rash. >> the president, i think he is picked the perfect path so far.
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but that is not going away easily. that is not just subtly going to, everyone dispersed and it is a very tough day. you couple that with selling $1 billion worth of weaponry to taiwan, it gets under the skin of the chinese leadership but again, donald trump is i think he's doing the right thing. i think most people in the country think we are finally holding your own and taking it to the chinese and putting pressure on them and i think it is a winning position. dana: what about just inside baseball a bit. i think when you read stories about divisions within the white house are different opinions it can send exaggerated or little over in. but how real is it and it is a problem or does it not matter because the president takes all these different points of view and then make his own decision. >> actually think china and hong kong example is a good one on that because i heard larry kudlow say something there that the president has not. and is not so much that it's a division of opinion, larry kudlow said we are on the side
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of freedom and democracy. president trump is not actually sent that, the state department has. you know anonymous administration spokespeople have said that. >> why does it have to be on background? >> thank you. it shouldn't have to be on background. but the president actually hasn't and he views say much in support of the demonstrators in hong kong as potentially weakening his hand in the china negotiations. and a number of people who work for him disagree with that. but they are not going to make a big federal case out of it. i think that is a level of concern on the hill about that. i mean humorous and democracy. >> error messages almost universal support for what's happening with the protesters in hong kong. but i think people have differentiated this administration approach to china with our support for human rights. i think we've been very clear
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about that but the issue that we are dealing with on the economic front is incredibly complicated and there's a lot of pieces to this negotiation that frankly, we don't -- dana: last quick question will senator mcconnell do a big push on the usmca and try to get that trade deal done? >> i think all republicans, i don't speak for them including the present i think everyone at this point really -- >> the problem is it is not that big a difference. from what previously existed but just to quickly say here, i think that when it comes the idea of protectionism and nationalism on both the economic side and in terms of reaching out and spreading democratic idea, i don't think it works very well. and i think we're seeing the consequences that hannah protectionism and the threat. dana: will give you last word on that. we have to take a break, we will be right back to rome come back montana governor joins me for an exclusive interview after his week taking on the dnc and a billionaire rival candidate. and we do not mean president trump.
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candidate who won statewide office in the trump stay in 2016 but the selling point has not lost him into the democratic field and they are starting to question the dnc approach to this primary. i have him here with me, governor bullock, thank you for being here. >> good to be here. dana: have the lane all to yourself you're the only one running that won statewide in 2016 and now since governor hickenlooper decide to get out of the presidential race are the only western governor they are. even with those distinctions you're having a difficult time breaking through. what you think is going on? >> i think for about six months -- >> 24 weeks. >> yeah and really, i did get a little later than everyone but what i'm seeing both on the
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debate stage and now in the field, just got back from new hampshire, people want to make sure that we can win the places we lost michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania.i've also governed with a majority republican legislature. they want government to actually get stuff done. so some from outside of the city, like i cannot just give plans for press releases or just speeches from someone that is test to get some things done. i think i will break through. >> some describe as a biden understudy more of a moderate. and there is speculation, what if biden does go the distance? is it lane you can move into? >> well and i think that certainly, that is the case. i often say that the word progressive it is progress, healthcare, affordable college, i view myself as kind of so in the get stuff done that matters to peoples lives. and i think that is where we as democrats need to be focused on. >> i think the advertiser at .5
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percent. the question about what's going on with the dnc and the process, even critical of tom steyer, a billionaire he threw his hat in the ring, he's on the cusp of making the september debate. he spent a lot of money to make that happen. are you frustrated by that? >> this week there are two different polls the key mother had me at two percent. still a long way to go but the thought he could spend $10 million to get on the debate stage, i don't think it's really good for democracy. i think well-intentioned, the democratic rules work to say we need to show that we have a small donor you know small donors but what exactly happened is as more and more money gets shifted to facebook ads, google, anyone that says you're spending not to get donors demonstrates -- >> your concerned -- >> is disclosed money but we should actually be talking to voters, not spending money just trying to get -- >> does it matter to you if you
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make it to the debate? >> i would love to be on it. all of your viewers go to my website maybe i's always early states to take big fields a lot smaller. something in the field that no one else is in and i think we had to focus on beating donald trump in making the economy and things work for everyone. >> was known to the issues. this week two congresswomen found themselves into controversy over their planned visit to israel.senator bernie sanders tweeted this about the controversy. if israel does not want members of the united states congress to visit their country, maybe they can respectfully decline the billions of dollars we give to israel. and then, democratic strategist said this, the only person who won and got what they wanted was trump. no one else was happy about it. he goes over the top and attacking them and israel goes over the top and responding and then you force even hawkish democrats to jump to their defense. are you frustrated as a democrat the francis of having to causally respond to
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questions of taking something it has been a longtime bipartisan issue, and now the democrats are on the defense? >> i think the unfortunate part is, israel is a trusted ally and it's been a good friend but i think the president politicize this more by tweeting and saying, any member of congress should have the ability to go there. >> 51 members of congress and the ghosted republicans and 20 democrats, they did not want to go on the trip. because either way, at the end of the day israel ought to be saying that we welcome members of congress to come to their country. i mean, this is, look, i do not agree with the things some of the members of congress have said about israel. i do not agree with the approach but that is also you know, as a trusted ally, israel should be allowed to have that certain -- >> is moved to immigration. the new cycle goes so fast, it
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was just last week, regarding a new rule addressing legal immigrants and welfare benefits. watch ken cuccinelli at the white house and one of your competitors, julian castro. >> president trump's administration is reinforcing the ideals of self-sufficiency and personal responsibility. >> these are not undocumented these are immigrants i have a visa basically preventing them from taking part in any program even though they are paying taxes. >> the state of california has sued the trump administration over this and it comes after california had already moved to allow people who are illegal to get healthcare benefits. what kind of danger to democrats face trying to win national elections by taking these positions? >> i think there are two different things. one, putting cuccinelli in charge of integration is like putting putin in charge -- what
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i disagree with, we using immigration essentially to divide the country. we need to as a democrat, and for border security. i am for figuring out copperheads of immigration reform. but i do think the presidencies immigration is not only with families to be pulled apart but also the family. >> the legal immigrants in trying to bring people to the country but having them be depended on welfare benefits per. >> i think the idea is to turn around to everyone that comes the country with documentation wants to make sure that they can succeed and live the american dream. i think that -- >> it was probably around 80 percent in the country. >> living the american dream? >> yes, hopefully 100 percent but we have some skeptical. and president trump has unique way of recognizing that not everyone loves him. he is at 53 percent approval on the can see that
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especially when it comes to tech. but what he's doing is on the backs of -- >> do you think he's not made the farmers whole? >> absolutely not. under no farmers in montana are not made whole. but they also, the payments will not matter if ultimately, we do lose market share. for the president to say japan does not want to buy our week. montana, we grow the wheat that goes to japan. what farmers want is to make sure that they have a market. they want trade, not aid. >> what about the possibility of for you, and we talked about this a little before. senator schumer really wants to take back the united states senate. if you get to point where we are four weeks off to iowa that looks like this is not going to be possible for you, would you consider running and trying to help the democrats win back the senate? >> i will do everything i can to get who we nominate for montana. elected, it will not be me. i also think you know we have this discussion, we talked about colorado and texas we should also be told not state
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like north dakota and indiana and missouri. places we lost last time. so if we really want to make sure that we can be competitive in red states it might help to have someone that's actually won a red or purple state at the end of the ballot and that is me. >> listen to the interview with larry kudlow. i asked if i could go to a site survey with them if they were going to purchase greenland. i mean, is that wild an idea? >> i am guessing not since the louisiana purchase had bought the west. it is a wild idea. and for him to say we are exploring it, actually put up a website, is greenland for sale? see if people will look at it. we will not be purchase agreement. >> of the governor will you be trying to purchase anything in canada? >> and where did this come from? >> harry truman, he had the original idea. [laughter] thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me.>> up as the new york times reporting the former president obama told joe biden quote -
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across, that's fine. pocahontas is rising. i did the pocahontas thing. i hit her really hard. and it looked like she was down and out. but that was too long ago i should have waited. but don't worry, we will revive it. dana: the present keeping of attacks on democratic front runner joe biden and elizabeth warren who is climbing in the polls. we are back now with the panel. take a look at this. this is a fox news poll showing where the race is right now it democrats, joe biden sold the
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top, i learned a new phrase this week that i never heard before that democratic strategists whose talk to voters were only concerned about electability as to who can beat donald trump they call them pungent voters. and electability has never really been nothing that's driven people to passionately get out there to the polls. but has president trump changed up for democrats? >> i remember during the obama years, that was the main theme for republicans i can actually beat barack obama. i don't think of anything the selling was interesting is that joe biden in the last 48 hours has reached out again to republicans but again you're trying to get these very progressive left-wing voters to vote for you, but the center of the road i can get along with everybody, in part i think the strategy is that to have a clash of personality. one that is more a little bit more calm, cool and collected versus what donald trump
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represents. but i tell you, people like the fight, the energy and donald trump, is contagious. >> and he watched her all you could see it. once he gets in campaign mode he's like a different level of energy. we are talking about joe biden and the electability lane. this week the new york times story that says president obama said you do not have to do this, you really don't, are the obama folks thinking that joe biden doesn't have what it takes to take on president trump? >> i think it's a little big. clearly if one has had doubts about his age, failed prior attempts to run for president, going back to 16, president obama clearly made it obvious he likes hillary clinton to run for the nomination you know joe biden's son just died and the like. but what we saw recently is that the president has met with biden campaign aides and especially about social media and like you just had lunch with joe biden last month. so i think a lot of it boils
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down to sort of leak gossip, new stuff but it's predicated on something interesting to me. joe biden is consistent as the front runner because of the black vote and it's predicated on the idea of his ties in service with barack obama the first black president. so now you get all of the stories coming up as well, is obama really on board with joe biden? elizabeth warren pumping up bernie sanders. a lot of people taking shots at the front runner i think that's what you're seeing. >> what do you know about that between obama and biden? not you about the men sometimes it matters -- >> does matter in this case i think it is the relationship between the two men that is more important. that new york times piece, urge everyone to read this. it's a really thoughtful look at a long relationship that has changed a lot over many years. starting with a mutual distrust and even almost dislike between
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them when they were primary competitors. and up to now, in which the article shows how obama is on board and has tried to help and has been offering advice. and how his own view shifted from you don't really have to do this to being supportive. you're going to do this.>> the big question now is when will he endorse?will he endorse? >> i don't think he will. >> because he only has one chance to be a kingmaker or a peacemaker. >> a good way of putting it. it certainly would not be before -- josh, i have to ask about elizabeth warren. numbers are going up but not you start to hear the new york times piece about -- the democrats are kind of nervous, what if we do nominate her, does that really hurt reelection chances?>> electability is in the eyes of the beholder. electability for joe biden is one thing. electability for more
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progressive left is another. i think the bottom line, what do you have to conclude is the heart of the democratic primary elections with joe biden it's with bernie sanders. but you're starting to see voters after couple of debates -- >> they start to organize. >> start tocome to the conclusi perhaps there is a feeling ceiling for bernie sanders for the candidate that has the best case to make it taking his economic progressive economic agenda forward is elizabeth warren. >> what you want to say? >> bernie sanders is not doing as well as this point in the race this year as he did last time out. that ceiling -- >> he was a unicorn last time. and the problem for the democrats as they all rushed and took over his policy. he's not even a registered democrat! >> he should have just the mission accomplished. >> we are so far to the left i
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don't how they recover in a general election because they have these crazy -- >> which is the governor of montana on, not being able to break through. he put almost all of his eggs in the iowa basket. he thinks if he can cigna for a while. what do you think? >> i think he's an exceptionally nice guy. with all due respect i think he is heading towards if the democrats somehow miraculously like the interior secretary i do not see him going any further than this. >> he has said he will not run for u.s. senate. do you think they would pressure him? >> i mean i do know exactly when the filing deadline is but that full effort for both parties happens all the way until the very end. we see folks like mike pompeo and the republican people work right up until june 2020 to try to get him in. i have no doubt they will try. problem is for the presidential candidates what we've seen recently, it doesn't really translate well with them going back. you see people start to accumulate these massive liabilities with hickenlooper is a good example. some can walk into the
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democratic non-nation present too much of the will now have a real battle in the debate. >> what about -- >> on electability, i think you identified three key issues for democrats. i think democrats are looking for various lanes and candidates. [multiple speakers] >> hang on, it is all about beating donald trump. one thing if you look at the polls, all democrats abandon and the question is how do you do this? and elizabeth warren, she may be rising but can a woman beat donald trump? >> hillary clinton won -- that when democrats say a woman cannot beat donald trump, hillary clinton won the popular vote. she did not win three key states. >> and who did she lose with? working-class white men in michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania. [multiple speakers] >> remember hillary clinton voices this way.
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>> that should not be true. for all of them they all know that. panel, i would love to keep talking to you but we will see you next sunday. thank you for watching. up next, our player of the week. a guitar maker turned tech guru. hmm. exactly. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. nice. but, uh... what's up with your... partner? not again. limu that's your reflection. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ what might seem like a small cough can be a big bad problem for your grandchildren. babies too young to be vaccinated against whooping cough are the most at risk for severe illness. help prevent this! talk to your doctor or pharmacist today about getting vaccinated against whooping cough. sleep number 360 smart sale of the year on the can it help keep us asleep? yes, it senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you both comfortable. save 50% on the sleep number 360
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ranging from world-famous musicians to a former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. as we first saw as a pre-take someone special at our power player of the week. >> i am moving things in my head like a videogame and then there's harmonics. >> he's explained in the work he does in two different worlds. guitars and high tech. he's a big success at both. >> everyone from carlos santana to u.s. special operations command wants your product. why? >> they need a tool to do a job so they can have clarity to make a good is the same thing it's a tool to do a job.>> will start with guitars. because that's where smith started. this is now the third biggest electric guitar manufacturer in the us. behind only bender and gibson. he showed us one of his top end
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models. >> your wrecking the guitar. >> i'm not wrecking anything! look at how beautiful. so is clear coated it almost explodes with color.♪ ♪ >> smith not only makes ♪ them, he plays them.♪ ♪ you are telling me that is ♪ mathematics? ♪ >> look, it is art and mathematics. and woodworking and spraying and finishing but, for me, i am rotating the part of my head i can see it.>> it brings us to the second part of the story almost 20 years ago smith and his father who was a retired navy mathematician, working on a synthesizer that turns digital data into sound.>> they discovered they could make it do a lot more than that. amplifying information you cannot hear or see. >> here's an ex-wife. it is done with low radiation, it's very hazy and we were able
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to do the information of the fossil doctors can see what's going on and here it is. >> now i can see. >> because of eye.>> he set up digital harmonic in 2015 and has almost 100 pending and other trademarks. >> mr. petrone at night and then we're putting into the algorithm, the machinery is deciding what to do with this thing. and you can see details you can dose not see the fascinating part for me is it is in color, not black and white. >> fascinates me is that you can see -- and cars and all kinds of things that are not there. >> if you still do not understand how it works, don't worry, neither did i. >> on the computer how can it see it? >> because it says is higher. >> it is too. >> is graphic map. almost like tic-tac-toe and chess. >> is it fair to say the u.s. military and intelligence
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community are interested in what you do? >> i think the intelligence community is very interested. >> which brings up one final question. which is more satisfying for you? the music or the high tech? >> that is not fair! you watching carlos santana play on stage playing a prs that is good. i'm looking information that i know, no one is ever seen before. that is good too. you cannot compare the two. those are good i mean what is the best because that's not fair. >> since the story originally aired, smith has heard from leaders in aerospace, defense, auto manufacturing and even astronomy. all interested in the technology that he has created. and that is it for today, for the latest news stay with fox station and fox news channel. during the weekdays for the daily briefing at tpm eastern and at 5:00 on fox news channel. have a great week everyone, and
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