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>> president trump landing in france this morning for the g-7 summit there on the french coast. just about dinner time there. i'm leland vittert. welcome to america's news headquarters from washington. gillian: good to be with you, leland. i'm gillian turner. the president talking about the summit and doubling down on the state of the u.s. economy despite the escalating trade war with china and more than 600-point drop at the closing bell on wall street on friday. correspondent john roberts is in
france with the latest, john? >> gillian, good afternoon to you. the president touched down here about eight miles north of where we are. and the first order of business with the president was lunch with french president emmanuel macron. the leaders insist the relationship is staying strong, in spite of macron putting in a tax that could affect american companies and in president trump implementing tariffs against french wine. listen to what the president said. >> we actually have a lot in common, been friends for long time. every once in a while we go at it a little bit, not search very much. we get along very well in the relationship, sort of, i think i can say a special relationship. >> bilateral meetings and the g-7 sessions the president will
talk about pro-growth. what he's done with tax cuts to keep the american economy humming. many european countries are talking about taxes to invigorate the economy. let's hear what the u.s. ambassador to germany said earlier today. >> our economy is the one that's humming and i hear every single day that german ceo's are racing into the u.s. because of the pro-growth strategies. look, the german economy is struggling. people are looking at the largest economy in europe and they're trying to figure out what to do and what we're trying to say is, when we go to the g-7 and we're supposed to talk about growth, tole us, do what we did. >> taking over the summit though, a lot of concern where the global economy is headed because of the escalating trade war between the united states and china, in particular, the new tariffs to both said they would level against each other on friday. as he arrived at biiraitz, boris
johnson,s british prime minister, saying he would urge the president to dial back. and the european president critical of president trump's approach to china. listen here. >> if someone, for example, the united states and president trump use tariffs and taxation as a political instrument tool from different political reasons, it means that this confrontation can be really risky for the whole world, including the eu. this is why we need g-7 and this is why we need our really frank and open discussion about intentions and to-- i hope that we will be wiser aft after. >> but president trump insists his trade war is with chinese is
not about politics, it's to ensure america's long-term prosperity. the president tweeting yesterday that he believes that american companies should find alternatives to doing business in china. source their manufacturing materials in places maybe like vietnam, malaysia, indonesia, bangladesh which is where a lot of american companies are. he says he's got the authority to order such a thing as well and the president taking another swing at his fed chairman, jerome powell, saying he's not happy with him, he doesn't think he's much of a chess player. and in a tweet saying who is the bigger enemy of the united states, is it jay powell or xi jinping. a remarkable thing for a president to say about his fed chairman. gillian: also interesting, john, to hear the president of the european council to say that the trade war with china is dangerous for the entire world. john, we'll check back with you in a four. see you next. leland: from flint, michigan, we
bring democratic congressman andy levin. nice to see you, sir. we appreciate it. the president saying he wants to bring american companies back to the table to bring back more manufacturing back to the united states. and it's something like you from a manufacturing state would be for? >> 100% we want to bring those jobs back to michigan, back to the united states, but the president is acting like a socialist if he's going to order companies. he said he woulds ordering our companies about where they're going to produce things, that's not capitalism, that sounds like josef stalin and we want companies to make things here based on sensible steady trade policy not this kind of crazy sputtering around he's doing. leland: who thought they would see the day it was the democrats talking about free trade and free markets and the republicans talking about tariffs.
it brings up an important point in terms ever where the economy is, especially in michigan, a state that the president won by the smallest of margins, conceivably has to win for reelection again and put it up in terms of the pew poll of exactly how americans look at the economy. all right, i can see in terms of democrats, republicans, and the total, 55% right now say president trump since took office has positive economic views so far. you can see that in the middle line, the orange line there. if you go to this issue of-- are you better to have four years ago than you are today, i'm guessing that a lot of people in michigan would answer that question with a yes? >> i'm not so sure, leland. let's take-- let's stick with the issue you're talking about, trump's trade war with china. we make jeep grand cherokees and ford mustangs that we export to
china. china is putting tariffs on them making them not profitable and hurts us in michigan. his tariffs hurt our farmers. the stock market-- >> yeah, but congressmen we've done stories about both of those things. about cherry farmers in northern michigan, done a lot of stories about the auto industry in michigan, but you look at the unemployment rate in michigan, 4.9%, when president trump took office down to 4.3% right now. i spend a lot of time in michigan and see help wanted signs all over the place, signing bonus billboards all over the place. people don't vote based on trade policy they vote on how they feel in their own pocket book and you're telling me that people in michigan aren't better off? >> absolutely, absolutely. yeah, people in michigan are hurting, leland. the idea that the unemployment rate is low doesn't mean that people are doing well because wages have been lagging.
people cannot afford to get prescription drugs. they can't afford to pay their premiums. they can't afford to send their kids to college. they have student debt at the highest level we've ever seen. leland: there's no question that people certainly have issues. hold on, congressman. >> go ahead. >> give me an economic statistic where people are worse off in michigan today than they were in 2016. >> manufacturing is turning down. we are having a slowdown in manufacturing and as you know, that's the heartbeat of michigan's economy, especially metro detroit. i represent warren, michigan, and sterling heights, michigan and where a lot of this manufacturing is, gm has closed the warren transmission plant. people are scared. they're out of work and you know, a lot of the low unemployment is people working two and three jobs running around like chickens with their heads cut off and the job doesn't pay enough to support a
family. leland: we all know the fallacy of the argument that the employment rate is low because people have multiple jobs. it doesn't count as multiple jobs in the unemployment rate. why has the unemployment rate in michigan gone down if things are so much worse? >> well, the problem is this, leland. companies need to decide where to invest and those-- when you're in manufacturing, those decisions are like ten-year decisions. leland: true. >> right now what's happening, is that gm and ford and chrysler and other big companies are deciding -- are not adding manufacturing jobs here. leland: interesting. >> because of these tariffs and it's a real problem for us. leland: interesting point on that, especially in terms of the horizon as companies are looking at where they're going to invest.
congressman, good to see you as always. we appreciate it. enjoy the last few days. >> thanks so much, leland. leland: in michigan, it's god's country there, we appreciate you joining us. >> thank you so much. leland: good to see you. take care. gillian. gillian: let's bring in the republican side of this equation, from wisconsin, mike gallagher, appreciate you being with us. and kicking off the g-7 by essentially saying the united states trade war with china highlights why we need the group of 7 more than ever to help weigh in with situations like this. do you get the feeling that president trump is going to be taking advice from these foreign leaders this weekend? >> well, i think the president has an enormous opportunity to unite the free world in opposition to china's predatory practices. there's no question in my mind that the chinese communist party represents our biggest economic and geopolitical threat over the long-term. i believe we're at the beginning
of a generational struggle and i believe the best weapon we have in that fight is to be on the same page with our allies in pushing back against the ccp. and far more important than any-- >> do you think that some of the foreign leaders there like angela merkel of germany, macron of france, do you think their words to the same tune as you just laid out, are really going to make an impression on president trump? do you think maybe he's going to kind of take a step back in the trade spat or do you think he's going to come out of there and want to go even harder? >> well, i don't know. you know, obviously, i haven't been in that room. i just would say this, i think the sooner we resolve disputes with our allies, as we have as pertains to the 232 tariffs with canada and mexico and some of our other allies. the better chance we have of uniting our allies in opposition to china, i think one positive step we could do from congressional, irrespective of what happens in the g-7 is to bring the new nafta to a vote.
the fact we're on recess when this issue is unresolved is absurd. i think they should call us back and have the debate. nancy pelosi should feel the pressure to do so. we should keep our focus on protecting sensitive u.s. technology exported to china where it will be used at best to repress chinese citizens and one day against our soldiers, airmen, marines and sailors on the battlefield. gillian: you bring up a good point which is a sticking point in the trade spat with china since day one has been intellectual property. it's china stealing everything from sensitive, classified, u.s. business information, to stealing all kinds of technological know-how from the united states. how do you think president trump is taking on that issue specifically so far in the, you know, in this back and forth? do you think he's really getting at the heart of the matter?
>> well, i think the trump administration deserves enormous credit for drawing attention to that issue. for the a least two decades prior to the trump administration, the bipartisan policy was if we integrated china into the economy it would moderate their behavior in terms of military activity, diplomatic activity and economic activity. the only problem was that was entirely wrong so the national security strategy and defense strategy of the trump administration say our foremost geopolitical threat is china, china, china. the next phase of this is it to ensure the future of the internet is not dominated by the chinese communist party particularly huawei and-- >> unfortunately, congressman, the problem is that president trump's administration has shined a spotlight on the issue, but we're not seeing concrete progress in terms of deterring chinese hacks. i mean, over the last two months, the number of chinese espionage experts that have been
identified on u.s. business websites have actually skyrocketed. >> it's an enormous challenge and that's why i chair something, a commission reviewing u.s. cyber policy. i would say we've made significant changes in our cyber policy in the last two years we've allowed our cyber warriors more latitude to atonight a policy of persistent engagement and i think that's one of the reasons we didn't see as many concerns about the 2018 election as we did in the 2016 election in terms of hacking. no doubt to your point there's much more that needs to be done. ultimately, this is a human problem. we need the best and brightest in the private sector in the silicon valley to work with the pentagon and not the communist chinese party. that's the only way to win this over the long-term and if the consensus in silicon valley they'd rather work with the ccp than refining their instruments than with our warriors, then
we're in the trouble. kristin: it would be helpful with companies didn't work with them for a search engine-- congressman, thank you. tune in on sunday tomorrow, chris wallace as an interview with treasury secretary steve mnuchin. look for time and channel. and on media buzz, talking to maria bartiromo how the media is covering president trump's economy. leland: all right. north korea saying it will remain america's biggest threat and to prove the point, north korea fired two unidentified missiles off the east coast. and these aren't the ballistic missiles that the president has been talking about in terms of his promise with kim jong-un, right? >> these are short-range missiles. we've found out that north korea has fired them off. at least seven of the types of
missiles since july. the missiles were launched from north korea's east coast and south korea officials say they flu roughly, 235 miles before ending up in the sea of japan. on friday night, before he left for europe, president trump said despite these tests, the u.s. has a very good relationship with the north. >> we'll see what happens. kim jong-un has been, you know, pretty straight with me, i think, and we're going to see what's going on. we're going to see what's happening. he likes testing missiles, but we never restricted short-range missiles. >>, but japan's defense minister says these tests can't be tolerated. he held a news conference in which he says, quote, this conduct proposes for our community, firing of missiles is a clear violation of the u.n. security resolutions no matter the distance or type, it's not something that can be overlooked. now, fox news's jennifer griffin
sat down with an interview on newly defense secretary mark esper this week and asked about the u.s. relationship with north korea. >> do you trust kim jong-un? >> no, this is one of these things where you have to have a verifiable agreement in place, clearly. >> will he ever denuclearize? >> the experts will tell you probably not, but we'll see. growing up in the 1970's and 1980's, i never thought we'd see the soviet union fall. >> now, the latest tests come amid turmoil and southeast asia says it will terminate an intelligence sharing greet with japan and the two often shared information about the tests. the decision to abandon the agreement goes into effect in three months, leland. leland: very busy part of the world including the taiwan straits. thanks, mark, watching through the weekend. gillian. gillian: supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg recovering off radiation therapy for a
pancreatic tumor. and saying that her growth was treated definitively and there's no evidence of disease elsewhere in the body. a biopsy performed late last month confirmed her tumor was malignant, but the 86-year-old justice will not need additional treatment. ginsburg has undergone treatment for cancer several times beginning back in 1999. leland: the case we've been following, a jury found a florida man, michael drejka guilty of manslaughter for the fatal shooting of marqukeis mcglockt mcglockton. it was over a parking spot outside of a store. drejka could now face three years in prison. gillian: police used tear gas on hundreds of protesters in hong kong, part of the massive demonstration in that city for
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october, and faces 30 years in prison. gillian. gillian: president trump says he's had -- ♪ >> president trump says he had a, quote, great conversation with denmark's prime minister after a week of tension over the president's talk about buying greenland. during that back and forth, president trump slammed the n.a.t.o. ally for not meeting its two recent military spending commitments. here to talk about that public spat is former ambassador, a distinguished fellow at the atlantic council, ambassador daniel fried. >> thank you for having me. a little bit in the lead up, tariffsen france, russia maybe being readmitted to the g-7. tell us what kind of a foot it sets up? >> what's the point of fighting with your friends? and wasn't the central argument of this administration's foreign policy that we've entered a
period of great power competition? well, if so-- >> but america first. >> fine, but then work with your friends to deal better with your adversaries. why fight with your best friends? what's the point of a fight with denmark, for god's sakes? when we asked, they sent troops to iraq and afghanistan. and some of those troops died in common cause with us. what's the point of a fight over greenland? >> so it sounds like you're not really buying the premise that the president looks at greenland as a potentially strategically useful acquisition and thinks it's an important more for him to make, is that right? >> well, we may have interest in greenland and what i've heard cited is mineral resources, our military base there and making sure the russians and chinese don't buy it out. okayment fair enough. but all of those interests can be better advanced by not fighting with denmark. gillian: maybe not worth it, not
worth having a fight over? >> well, if we're interested in opportunities for american companies to do mining in greenland for some of the important minerals they have, why not say, go to denmark, talk to the greenlanders, they'd be happy to do deals. but by making a fight, alienating the people you want to do business with. now, which american interest does that advance? america first? bony baloney, that's putting america last. gillian: take a listen to what the general said this week about how this impacts n.a.t.o. take a listen. >> when we talk about threatening germany with tariffs on automobile production, which is one of the biggest factors in the german economy. when we disparage the prime minister of denmark, we're weakening n.a.t.o. we're playing into putin's hands. gillian: do you agree with that? >> general clark is a wise man.
we should be working to lead our friends to deal with the autocracies that threaten us, whether that's russia, whether it's the challenge of china. we shouldn't be dissipating our energies in pointless fights. if the trump administration argues it's time to take on china, okay, that's a serious argument, but then rally the europeans. gillian: which is certainly doing on the financial front, anywayments don't do it alone. rally the europeans so you do it from a position of strength rather than being isolated. what good is that doing? >> i was i go this about the president wanting to acquire greenland. in a sense it plays into, fits into the narrative that so many of president trump's followers have been talking about for a couple of years, which is countries, country's sovereignty, national sovereignty still matters and
territories matter. can you kind of see the thread there that connects all of that? >> the american way was to look at a rules-based order, not because it's charity for other countries, but because we make a lot of money that way. that was america's great grand strategy, starting 100 years ago. and under american leadership, the free world grew prosperous, stayed free. democracies, peace, those are all good things. gillian: all worthwhile things. >> all good things. so you don't need to advance our interest by getting into a territorial fight. you need to have a rules-based system so american companies can go out and make money and the greenlanders will welcome it. now we've made it harder because the greenlanders are going to make it suspicious of us. that's not advancing american interests and that's not the great american strategy with with which we have led the free world since the end of world war
ii. >> an important reminder, ambassador. thanks for joining us. stick to the play book and don't fix things that aren't broken. >> and believe in the american system. believe in the american way. that's-- we've set out to lead the world not by replicating the old imperial european system, but the new american way, and stick to what works. stick to what made us great. gillian: great, we're going to leave it there. thank you for your time today. >> my pleasure. leland. leland: and a fox news alert. as there is chaos once again in the streets of hong kong, police and anti-government demonstrators clashing again. there had been a relative calm period of peaceful protests. clearly today changed things. kitty logan in london with why this matters. hi, kitty. >> yeah, this is the first time in a couple of weeks we've seen these protests turn violent again. don't forget that they have been going on now since almost three
months, this pro democracy movement. it shows no sign of letting off at all. and we see police using large quantities of tear gas and trying to disperse the demonstrators who simply refused to move. they fought back and some carried baseball bats and set up road blocks and calling for the government to meet their demands. the government says these protests pose a threat to public safety. and they want to now test china's patience if these kind of clashes continue. there were also today smaller protests in other parts of the city, hundreds gathered into the area. and on friday, there was a much more peaceful demonstration, thousands of people linking hands to form a human chain. now, these protests from earlier in the week were also largely
more peaceful but so far, authorities are refusing to meet the demands of any of the demonstrators, although a controversial bill was introduced some time ago. and. with more protests planned for the coming weeks, there's going to be a mass rally and a strike across the city and some boycotts in some universities. certainly this pro democracy prochlt has still got a lot -- protester still has got momentum. leland: kitty logan, thank you so much. gillian. gillian: tover a dozen candidats are there, anticipating an event. and among those not attending is the leader contender, joe biden. jeff paul is standing by with the latest. >> gillian, the candidates have left the builder here at dnc summer meeting in san francisco.
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he chose to spend time in new hampshire where he had an event this morning and now he'll head to new york. before he stopped speaking to voters in new hampshire, he touched on the president and france and other world leaders. >> i've never criticized the president's policy when he's abroad, and i mean that seriously and i'll have a lot more to say about the president's policy and what's going on at the g-7 and what is in fact going on with russia, et cetera, which has me greatly concerned. i will not take the time today. it's emissiomission of intentio don't think it's right for me to talk about it when he's abroad on policy. the other 2020 candidates had no problem criticizing president trump. and cory booker says they can beat trump by not being like
him, but how they've beat demigods in the past. >> and that he had a long wrap sheet he came into office saying he would help everybody from farmers to the auto industry. >> then he passes a trade policy by tweet based on unilateral action born out of a fragile ego that's resulted in farmers across our country-- i've spent a lot of time in iowa looking at bankruptcy because they've got soy beans rotting in bins. we know by the end of the year as many as 300,000 auto workers may be out of a job. >> now, congressman seth moulton, who spoke yesterday here yesterday at the dnc summer meeting, decided to drop out of the race. meanwhile, senator michael bennett who says he will not qualify for the next debate is vowing to stick with it. gillian. gillian: i think we should hold former vp biden's feet to the fire and see if he doesn't say
anything negative at all about president trump at all over the next three days. we'll check back with you and see how he does. thanks, jeff. leland: watch that. meantime new reporting how democrats hope to capitalize on their 2018 successes and retake control of state houses and governor mansions. right now, republicans control 61 of 98 state legislative chambers. joining us now to discuss republican strategist go-pac chairm chairman. this was your play book and now the democrats are saying we want those back. >> when you have 61, 2020 was always more about defense than offense for republicans. though there are chambers where we do believe we have a chance to take a majority back. these are going to be crucial elections, particularly as president trump goes into reelection and looks at a second term because what do you see happening right now by democrat governors and democratic state legislature. they are passing laws like california did that make it harder for law enforcement. the governor of south--
or north carolina to veto a bill that says you can't work with ice. i mean, the state level now is having a huge impact on federal policy. leland: these are different races though, a state legislative race is very different than a federal house or a federal senate race. we don't want you to give plays away and i understand if you don't want to answer that question, but what does the blocking and tackling look on this? >> the blocking and tackling how you win any race, you have to have your name i.d. up, and they have to lake your strategies better. and doesn't give anything away, republicans need to talk about health care next year, particularly at the state level. leland: there's so much reporting though that there is this influx of good democratic candidates and they're doing a better job recruiting than republicans. fair? >> no, it's still very-- we still haven't had filing deadlines yet in many of the state legislative race snoos if
you look at the money, the associated press is reporting, 5.4 million from george soros, sussman, 4.8. emily's list, 600,000 just in virginia for the fall elections. you're talking about millions and millions of dollars going up against what you could do on, you know, pennies. >> sure. leland, it's almost like you want the president to tweet about how biased your questions are again. money isn't everything in politics and certainly there have been plenty of times where the democrats have spent more money than republicans, but let me just say, look at this, look at the federal level and how much more money the republican fan committee has than the democratic national committee has and as you're looking at putting the infrastructure together and putting that ground game together there's going to be a lot of air cover from the national level that's going to come down and help the state races. leland: issues specific that will be good for republicans and bad for republicans at the state level? >> the economy is going to be
good, but we can't rust on our laurels. there's more that needs to be done. leland: you run on the economy, you run on health care. where are the vulnerable flanks? where are you going to have to protect your flanks on defense? >> we have to see where the economy is next year. leland: that's a concern for you? >> sure, it has to be a concern. all indicators are that the economy are going to continue to be strong. consumer confidence continues to be strong. 68% of the u.s. economy is based off consumer spending. ku consumers spending. >> and as democrats talk more about abortion, is that a wedge issue on-- >> it's a wedge issue. it fires up their side, but fires up our side, too. leland: dave avella, thank you. gillian: president trump and world leaders gathering at the g-7 today on france's west
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looking it i--- at this today what do you think of the gap? why are they so critical of what he's doing? >> in those country there's a diverging approach to multilateralism to what the president is pushing in the united states. and of course his twitters and elsewhere on those leaders of the countries and in contrast-- >> is it a policy disagreement with the president rit large or a stylistic beef-- >> his approach is not appreciated when you compare him to merkel, macron, and theresa may although he has a better relationship with boris johnson. gillian: that's interesting, we'll get the first sight
picture of president trump interacting with boris johnson for the u.k. they have been interacting at a different level. they've always had an affinity to one another and a lot of people are looking forward to seeing the tet denmark, the yeuropean countri s countries-- >> boris johnson will be focused on the next couple of months is brexit and president trump does want to get a good trade deal between the u.k. and the united states through this brexit process. so that's probably going to be at the top of their agenda. gillian: here at home, president trump received a lot of criticism from democrats about his relationship with vladimir putin of russia. before departing for the g-7, the president said maybe it's not such a bad idea to invite russia back into the g-7. how do these countries feel about that? >> that's what he said the other day when he was talking to us on the south lawn. gillian: yes.
>> there's very conditional support for that, even among those who are a bit sympathetic to that. macron-- >> but there is some support? >> there is, but it's only. we have to remember what the g-7 is, a group of democracies leading the industrialized countries. and does russia fit. and remember why they were kicked out. gillian: 2014, right? >> crimea and also the continuing operations in eastern ukraine and parting the paramilitary. and macron made it clear there's not russia back in until there are some concessions. gillian: at least made a move to withdraw. >> there's no indication of that right now, gillian. gillian: we'll check back with you soon, leland. leland: a russian rocket headed to the international space station had to abort. what went wrong when we come
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video of the president and the president of france having lunch there in france. they're all there for the g7 summit, kicks off this afternoon with a big dipper. welcome to "america's news headquarters" from washington. the west coast of france sounds better than washington. gillian: i mean, i would want turn it down. leland: i'm leland vittert. our future french riviera correspondent. [laughter] gillian: i'm available. it's great to be with you. president trump is expected to talk about his economic success here at home all weekend long, he's doubling down so far on his domestic policies amid rising fears internationally about a global recession. and the stock market dive yesterday. chief white house correspondent john roberts is in france with the latest john? >> reporter: gillian, good evening to you. the president will be heading about 8 miles north of us to
dinner with g7 leaders in about half an hour's time, the economy will be a big focus of what they'll be talking about tonight. as soon as he touched down, he went to have lunch with the french president, emmanuel emmal macron, and despite the fact there have been some tensions including macron's decision to put a digital tax on many american companies which the president may retaliate for, president trump said the relationship is still strong. listen here. >> we actually have a lot in common. we've been friends for a long time. we go at it just a little bit, not very much. we get along very well. i think i can say it's a special relationship. >> reporter: hanging over this summit, though, a lot of questions about where the global economy is headed after dual action by both china and the united states yesterday. let's put them up on the screen so you can follow along. yesterday china announced it was going to slap tariffs on $75
billion worth of american goods as of september 1st. the president in turn said he would raise by 5% tariffs on $550 billion in chinese goods, and here's how it breaks down. the president would rise, raise from 25 to 30% tariffs existing already on $250 billion in chinese goods, that would happen on october 1st. and then he's planned to raise tariffs on $300 billion worth of chinese goods would go up by 5% to 15%. some of those tariffs would take effect september 1st, some would wait until december the 15th. leaving the white house last night, the president says in order to preserve america's economic prosperity in the future, he's got no choice but to take on china and that the united states will ultimately prevail. listen here. >> we're having a little spat with china, and we'll win it. china's been hurting our country for 30 years with the money they've been taking out. other presidents should have done something about it. i'm doing it, and i have no choice because we're not going
to lose close to a trillion dollars a year to china. and china understands that. >> reporter: in a tweet that surprised a lot of businesses yesterday, the president ordering u.s. companies to find alternatives to doing business with china while companies are wondering whether the president is serious or just posturing in that tweet. the president insists he does have the authority under a 1977 law, the international emergency economic powers act, to order companies to do that. and the president took another swing at the fed chairman, jay powell, who the president is not very happy with. the president saying who is the bigger enemy, is it jay powell or is it xi jinping of china? the president also saying that if jay powell were to tender his resignation, he would not stand in his way, gillian? gillian: john, as always, a great report. thanks for teasing out a little bit of the long-term impact there of the trade war. next time you're going to france
and i'm going -- [laughter] have a good one. thanks, john. leland: all right. we'll dig in a little bit more about what's happening with china. we'll bring in former white house trade official, cleat williams. cleat, you would have been in france -- >> i would have. leland: it would have been a lot better. i don't know, the sound bite that john had, the president said we're going to ultimately prevail. that's long way from trade wars are quick and easy to win. >> look, this is the a very tough undertaking that the administration's involved in -- leland: do you think they realized that when they started? >> absolutely. we had long conversations about how things could go back and forth between the united states and china, and ultimately what we decided was we could not allow this problem to go on forever because that would be much worse for our economy than any short-term impact of tariffs. leland: okay. so why frame it in this, oh, it's going to be quick and easy to win, don't worry about it, if
you guys knew it was going to be this long slog with the chinese keep going back on their word? >> look, i like the way the president's talking about it this week. i think he was right to say there may be a short-term impact, but that's small compared to what happens if we go another decade and allow china to continue to steal our intellectual property, to force companies to turn over their technology, to access the market. leland: all right. let's dig in in terms of how the president's talking about it this week. here was the tweet from a couple weeks ago, it is even more obvious to everyone that americans are not paying tariffs, they are being with paid complements of china. then we heard from the president saying something very differently are. take a listen. >> just in case they might have an impact on people, what we've done is we've delayed it so that they won't be relevant for the christmas shopping. leland: really only ten days to figure out that american
consumers were going to get hurt by this? >> look, i think there's been an understanding all along, but let me take this from a different angle and just say, you know, i understand the president's frustration right now. a lot of us who have dealt with this have been frustration with china's unwillingness -- leland: do you think he underestimated that in the beginning? >> look, i'm not sure, but what i can tell you is this, the president, i believe, is still looking for a deal. and the 5% yesterday, it could have been a lot more. and that signals that the administration wants to keep talking, and i would give them two pieces of advice. i'm no longer in the room, but i think two things are critical. the first one you were touching on, which is rhetoric. i love the way the vice president articulated it earlier this week. the vice president said very clearly we're not trying to contain china, we're just trying to create a level playing field. that's how i believe the president sees it, that's how i've understood from my conversations with him. he needs to start saying that more and more frequently. and the second thing that's
really important is the administration needs to use the g7, it needs to use these engagements with allies and make progress. hard to do that when you're talking to macron about putting tariffs on wine and getting into other spots. it's hard to have them back you up on them, right? >> he put a tax on -- leland: you've got to have priorities. >> my point is this, the last thing china wants to see is for us to have an fta with japan, for us to pass usmca. they don't want to see a unified front from the allies, so if we're going to be successful with china, we need to make progress on that. but it's important for another reason, and i haven't heard this talked about much. there's a question of business uncertainty, and a lot of the folks that i now represent at akin, these are folks who say we love the tax cuts and the deregulation, but the uncertainty is killing us. so if the administration wants
to have the strongest possible hand vis-a-vis china, it needs to have some certainty with the e.u., with mexico, canada and with japan, and that's going to strengthen our hand against china, and that's really important. leland: in order to have that policy play out, the president's got to win re-election. let's listen to one group in particular, strong trump supporters, who are now really feeling this. no coincidence there. take a listen to a farmer we had on earlier. >> we want trade, not aid, and i think that farmer support -- while it was there for president trump in the previous election, it's starting to become really strained. we are struggling. at the end of the day, we want to be in the game. we are tired of being on the sidelines when it comes to china, one of our major trading partners, and we are concerned that we're losing our spot to countries in south america or australia. leland: we also had a small business owner who voted for president trump saying he felt like they were being sacrificed. you say president trump wants a deal. he has until november in terms
of the election whether or not he's going to be able to make a deal, and the chinese know that. xi jinping's president for life. are the chai e news going to be able to outmaneuver that? >> one of the things that i experienced negotiating with china is that that they weren't unified internally in the sense that they had some folks who wanted a deal because they wanted to focus on reform, and they thought that was the best way for them to grow. you know, protecting intellectual property, good for investment in china. there were others who were more nationalistic, more hard-line who said we're not going to deal with the u.s., we're going to do it our own way. and he has to manage that. i do think that's an underappreciated fact, just because he's called himself president for life, he doesn't have any political accountability, it's not the way that it is. and what we have heard is that he's under a lot of pressure from folks -- leland: yeah, especially if the economy in china -- >> he owns that economy. leland: yeah. >> owns the chinese economy, and he owns this deal one way or
another. leland: well, i think you're now stuck with the term the pride of denobody shah, wisconsin. [laughter] it's good to have you, as always, and appreciate the insights. gillian? gillian: u.s. officials are confirming an israeli airstrike on an iranian weapons depot in iraq that killed two iranian military commanders last month. officials spoke on condition of anonymity, but israel has yet to confirm the attacks, but it would be the first known israeli airstrike in iraq since 1981. to add to our perspective on this, we bring in the author of "god is in the crowd," former israeli air force pilot and cofounder of charity capital, tal keenan. thanks so much for being with us this afternoon. you have lived in israel and in the united states, you've raised your family in both countries. give us some perspective on what you see happening, the sort of breakdown here in the united states along political lines of jewish-americans. >> sure. well, first of all, with regard
to that attack, it's interesting that it's really not a top news item in the israeli press, which i've been listening to -- gillian: oh, that's interesting. >> yeah. which i, it's not -- i don't think it's so surprising to most israelis. policy's been pretty clear, you have a regional power with ambitions for regional hegemony and an explicit intention to eradicate israel. gillian: right. >> the israeli's policy has been to interrupt that ambition wherever possible, and i don't think there are any boundaries on that. jill well, you know, we talk here in the u.s. both sides of the aisle very concerned about, you know, iran's nuclear ambitions. president trump super critical of president obama's nuclear deal that he inked with iran. but we have to keep in mind, you know, some of our closest allies like israel are in iran's backyard. the threat's much more immediate and tangible. >> yeah, it's important to remember. israel is the size of vermont, and it's right next door to most
of its, most of its enemies. so it is a much different threat, or certainty perceived -- certainly perceived as a much different threat in israel, and i think that's natural. gillian: take a listen to president trump wednesday at the white house. i want to get your reaction. >> in my opinion, the democrats have gone very far away from israel. in my opinion, you vote for a democrat, you're being very disloyal to jewish people, and you're being very disloyal to israel. gillian: major, major pushback. both sides of the aisle to that comment, some people going so far as to say it's an anti-semitic comment in that it brings up a history where j everything ws have been -- jews have been accused of being lis i do y'all -- disloyal. >> i think the president makes clear he's talking about disloyalty to the jewish people and to israel, not disloyalty to
the united states, and that's an important distinction. gillian: yeah. >> there's been some disingenuous reactions to that. he was not raising the old canard. this is neither an attack, nor defense of donald trump's statements, but we should be honest in how we're looking at this. that disloyalty canard, i understand why it evoked that sort of reaction among jews. it's been raised from the times of the pharaohs in egypt. i just don't think that's what's happening here. i also think it's important to make a distinction between disloyalty e and dual loyalty. the dual loyalty charge, to me, it's not a charge -- gillian: right, right. >> two very compatible loyalties. to put a point on it, i know a lot of american jews who have served and do serve in the u.s. military, put their lives at risk, in some cases sacrifice their lives in defense of the united states. very difficult to accuse them of
disloyalty. virtually all of those people that i know are also zionists. they love the jewish people unabashedly and people's right to a national home. i think those two are actually quite compatible. gillian: a lot of jewish-americans feel that prime minister netanyahu has sort of insinuated himself into the political arena here in the united states and resent that, you know? they feel that he's allied himself with president trump, which is great, you know, it's good to have the leaders of israel and america be close, but that he's actually pushed democrats here in washington, you know, out of his corner, and they feel that this is going to cause lasting damage. when's, what do you think about that? >> yeah, so i would agree that bibi netanyahu has some responsibility for that split or for israel beginning to look like a wedge issue in american poll tibs. he's not the only -- politics. he's not the only one. to be clear, he is a politician
with an electorate that he's got to serve. he's coming up for an election where he is quite vulnerable in september. he's doing what's good for bibi netanyahu, and that's something i think we all need to understand, and he didn't invent that, right? that's democratic politics, that's how it works -- gillian: can't really blame a politician for serving their own interests. >> well, it is what it is, right? i'd like to see him put israel's interests a little higher than i think where he puts it, but that just goes with the territory. what i will say though is bibi netanyahu is not the state of israel, and you can disagree with his policies, which many israelis -- frankly, most israelis in polls do -- and still support the state of israel. i think that's a nuance that has been somewhat lost in the american discussion of israel. gillian: absolutely, and thanks for inserting that and reminding everybody here. that'll keinan, we'll have you back. thanks so much. leland? leland: learning a little bit
more overnight about north korea and their firing of two unidentified projectiles off of their coast. the u.s. and south korea just ending those military drills that the north koreans have been so upset about over the past couple of years. mark meredith with this. hi, mark. >> reporter: hey, leland, good afternoon. a lot going on. japanese and south korean officials are calling on north korea to stop these missile tests. officials believe north korea has fired at least seven short-range missiles since july. now, the most recent tests happening early saturday morning local time. the projectiles were launched from north korea's east coast and flew some 235 miles. president trump addressed the test before he left washington on friday night. >> he likes testing missiles, but we never restricted short-range missiles. we'll see what happens. many nations test those missiles. we tested a very big one the other day, as you probably noticed. >> reporter: this week fox's own jennifer griffin interviewed
u.s. defense secretary mark esper, here's what he had to say before this most recent launch. >> i think our biggest concern with the long-range tests that were being conducted, certainly, we don't dismiss the short-range tests. we watch them, monitor them, try e to understand what they're doing and why, but we also shouldn't be thrown off the diplomatic path. >> reporter: japan's defense minister says these tests cannot be tolerated. he held a news conference today in which he said, quote: this conduct poses a grave problem for the international community including our country. the firing of ballistic missiles is a clear violation of the u.n. security council resolution. no matter the distance or type, it is not something that can be overlooked. south korea said in a statement it's closely monitoring the situation and maintaining a readiness posture. all this comes just days after south korea announced on thursday it will terminate an intelligence-sharing agreement with japan. the two nations often share this kind of information about these
weapons tests. leland? leland: yeah, that's an important point and also how can china plays into this in terms of the taiwan straits. see a bit more this weekend. gillian: vaping dangers making headline news this weekend. the centers for disease control and prevention identifying what they say could be the first death linked to vaping. garrett tenney's got that story. garrett? >> reporter: well, gillian, there's a lot of concern about this because in the last week alone the number of potential cases of severe lung illness tied to vaping have more than doubled, and health officials still aren't exactly sure what the cause is. as of now the one common link in the cases is vaping in general. the cdc and state investigators are currently looking for other connections though including if a specific product or compound was used. the users are teenagers or young adults, and a number of them reported vaping with cannabis oil or thc, the same
high-inducing ingredient in marijuana. shortness of breath, chest pain, vomiting and diarrhea, which is what 17-year-old tristan zokol experienced this summer when he nearly died of lung failure which doctors blamed on vaping. >> it was these real quick half breaths, throwing up everywhere. i could feel my heart just pounding out of my chest going super fast. >> reporter: this week the illinois department of public health announced what was believed to be the first death in the u.s. linked to vaping, saying, quote: the severity of illness people are experiencing is alarming, and we must get the word out that using e-cigarettes and vaping can be dangerous. the president of the american vaping association is pushing back and suggesting its nicotine products remain a safe alternative telling fox news several health departments are now linking street vapes containing synthetic drugs to these illnesses. we remain confident this is the case across the country. these latest health cases are only adding to the cdc's concern
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leland: all right. the unmanned russian soyuz spacecraft had to scrub a landing at the international spacation today. the craft is carrying a robot designed to help astronauts, they might try again a little bit later this weekend. gillian: l.a. public health officials say that people who have recently visit disneyland and other popular tourist spots in california may have been exposed to measles. a new zealand teen had the disease august 11th. authorities say she then went to desert palms hotel in anaheim as well as believed to have visited universal studios, the tcl chinese theater and madame tussauds between august 14th and
15th. health officials also say it can take up to 21 days after exposure for measles symptoms to appear, that's why they're tracking it. [laughter] leland: all right. much of the president's time in france this weekend will be spent talking about trade and trying to shore up the american economy. the markets, well, they didn't really like president trump's new tariffs friday, and the order for u.s. companies to, quote, start looking for alternatives to china. dow down 623 points on friday. with that, we bring in syndicated talk a radio host, the voice of indianapolis and parts around the web, tony katz. good to see you, my friend, as always. i can only imagine your reaction, the steam that would be coming off of your head if president obama had, quote-unquote, ordered american companies to do something. >> and i think there was plenty of steam from a lot of people, the kind of language nobody
wants. but when president trump says it, everyone says, okay, all right, we know that he tweeted it, he said it, let's take a look at the rest of it. if you take a look at the rest of it, he's having a conversation i wish he'd had a year ago. tariffs are a national security conversation, not just in china. it's absolutely accurate, yeah, nobody's going to defend order american companies, but american companies should look at bringing their productivity, their construction and manufacturing back to the u.s., and the u.s. should continue to make it easier for, by reducing regulations to make that happen. leland: a lot of questions in terms of also u.s. government moving supply chains to vietnam and how much more difficult that's becoming. but it brings up the larger question about sort of how the white house is framing this tariff fight. they've gone from trade wars were quick and easy to win to, oh, never mind, it may not be quick and it may not be easy, but china's going to pay all the a tariffs, and now they're getting to where you were a year ago which is this is a national security debate. voters have somewhat long
memories. is that going to be a problem, or are they going to now all of a sudden buy into the national security debate? >> i think that you can get people to buy in because it's a legitimate, serious debate. i think the question you're asking goes to will they seek pain or relief? one of the things the president said was he's willing to go with two months of pain in order to get the deal proper with china. and his reaction to china adding more tariffs -- [inaudible conversations] may have upset the markets, but it wasn't a bad reaction. leland: he's been saying two two months for almost two years now. it's not getting done. the chinese somehow keep getting away, you know, without their -- our boot on their neck. >> well, let's remember two things. i believe tariffs hurt us. i believe tariffs also hurt china, and china also has a couple serious other issues. the hong kong issue is a massive, massive issue in china. hong kong trying to engage some kind of freedom fight? that takes a lot away from
president xi being able to show he's got control. he also doesn't know how to deal with president trump, again questioning his levels of control. leland: that's an excellent point. want to get to a situation about somebody you know extraordinarily well from indiana, mike pence. fascinating reporting from politico about this rivalry now that is developing between nikki haley, former governor of south carolina, former u.n. ambassador and the vice president. the inner circle is convinced haley is laying the groundwork for a future presidential bid since departing the administration late last year, she's crisscrossed the nation raising money for down-ballot candidates and conservative groups. does nikki haley have a chance to move in to knock mike pence, first, off of the ticket in 2020, second as what would have to be the presumptive front-runner to 2024 nomination? >> i think these are two separate conversations, and to
treat them as such, there is nothing that i have seen, nor source of mine has ever provided that makes me think mike pence is not on the ticket in 2020. and the tweet that nikki haley put out about this is a friend, he's been very loyal to the president, i think that's accurate. i don't think anybody is discussing 2020. if you think i'm going to be surprised or the vice president, i would say would be surprised, that nikki haley is looking at 2024, making sure she's got her ducks in a row, of course she does. she's a politician. she's got her eye on the future. she's 47 years old and nothing but upside. absolutely, she's looking at it, and she is formidable. leland: formidable for a number of reasons, as is mike pence and somebody you know well and have interviewed a number of times. tony, always good to see you, my friend. enjoy the last few weeks of summer in indianapolis. >> dun and dun. done and done. gillian: the 2019 dnc summer meeting is underway in san
francisco. while over a dozen 2020 democratic presidential hopefuls are there, joe biden noticeably absent, stay thing on the east coast this weekend -- staying on the east coast this weekend. jeff paul is there with everything that's going on. jeff. >> reporter: he is the front-runner and the former vice president, but joe biden skipping out on the bay area. still plenty of other 2020 candidates vying for the white house. their message to voters after the break. ♪ ♪ fact is, every insurance company hopes you drive safely. but allstate actually helps you drive safely... with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost. unfortunately, it can't do anything about that. now that you know the truth... are you in good hands? take prilosec otc and take control of heartburn.
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getting underway in the third and final day of the dnc summer meeting, again, big topic of conversation, where is joe biden, he decided to skip out on this summer meeting here in the bay area and instead focusing on campaigning, new hampshire. he was there this morning before he headed to new york where he told voters at an event that he will not criticize president trump while president trump is overseas and france, also skipping out mayor pete, spending time in new hampshire just like joe biden where the topic of china came up, it's been on the news a lot lately, pete asked about his relations with china potentially and if they could mere cold war geopolitics. >> what we need to do is strategically engage china in mutual interest and stability in the pacific rim and around the world, recognize to compete them in the eye with tariffs because
they will poke back, if they are prepared to put more in belt and road initiative, if they are ready to invest more in that, we are ready to invest in our own, we will fall further and further behind. we need to lead the world in climate diplomacy. >> also happening at dnc summer meeting, one of the many 2020 candidates decide today -- decided to bow out. he says while he will support whoever is nominated, he left dnc with a warning about the future. >> we need to stay grounded on what it's going to take to win the trust of voters, all kinds of democrats, independents like obama-trump voters and even disaffected republicans and beating hateful politics of donald trump. >> meanwhile senator michael bennett who spoke here at the
dnc summer meeting yesterday saying he will not qualify for the national debate but he will continue and also blasted the dnc, saying the debate process is cycling, leland. leland: very choice words about the dnc there, jeff paul, jeff, thanks so much, a panel with more. >> a look at what's coming up next on 2020 campaign trail we turn to our political panel, democratic strategist president and founder of defiant strategist kristin and blue dog communication director and democratic strategist christian. christian, as of this week 4 democrats have dropped out, 10 have been announced as they will make it to the next round of debates coming up in just a couple of weeks, reading the tea leaves, what's happening to the rest of the folks that are in the running between now and next round? >> well, i hope it continues to consolidate, the field, right
now it's been too crowded, up until this point and so, you know, i'm hoping that we can keep it to around 10 from what i've read. gillian: 10 total. >> 10 total. gillian: threshold has been met. >> once you're past 10 you're about to having two more debates, two nights. gillian: as of now the debate is planned for thursday night but if they go over -- >> exactly. gillian: friday the 13th. >> no one. [laughter] >> right, exactly. there's been so many people in the field up to this point, but even those who work in this arena are having hard time keeping names straight, they are the front runners that we all know, so many others that -- they don't have any traction, so i think if those of us who work in democratic politics, keep up, think about people who have normal lives who do not leave and breathe sort of thing every day, there's not enough bandwidth to take in this number of people, too many candidates. gillian: kristin, how many would you like to see on next debate
stage? [laughter] >> totally agree. it's hard for -- it's too much for people and they are not paying attention, okay, i'm waiting for -- >> hard for anybody to breakthrough the message. >> i think that you've got bidden with a strong lead, the numbers, i think the numbers and percentages, they will change. >> speaking about biden, he's kind of layed low in the past week, no headline events, no gaffes going viral, is that part of the deliberate strategy by his team to kind of prevent any unforced errors leading to next debate? >> i think biden is doing the right thing. those of us who know, he sometimes not being in the headlines is a good thing. gillian: is that what his team is thinking?
>> i think his team is making sure he's in the right places, not being at the dnc is fine. i worked in the house for a very long time and we would not send members to the convention, they need to be out talking to voters, they don't -- i get why kamala is there, that type of thing. i think that mayor pete and -- and others that aren't there, they are coming up -- they have to be in, you know, rhode island and new hampshire. >> a lot of made about rise of some of the progressives, andrew yang, elizabeth warren doing well this week, yang has gone viral on twitter a bunch of times, elizabeth warren sort of displaying some tough line properties, criticism like not sticking to her and going over to bernie sanders. tell us about that. >> warren has a much more well thought out plan followed positions than bernie does and there's this sort of nonaggression pack among the
progressives because they feel the need to kind of all, you know, keep moving forward, it's an uphill battle for them, but what i will say that while warren has the plans really bernie has the base, he has a very strong core group of supporters going back the last time he ran, what i'm thinking is what -- what advantage would either one of them have in attacking each other or try to distinguish themselves too much right now what they need to prove is the viability of any progressive in the field before narrowing it down to one progressive potential nominee, it's too early for that. gillian: hard break in a minute so we will have to leave it there. >> thanks for having us. >> leland. leland: new details on the trump's administration proposal to allow undocumented families to be detained indefinitely. will it work, will the courts allow it, we will be right back.
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gillian: we are getting live pictures now out of western france where president trump and first lady melania trump will head to dinner shortly with other leaders of the g7, president trump met with emmanuel macron earlier for lunch upon his arrival, there's he is with the first lady of france bridgeete macron as well as president of the eu council, all heading to dinner. leland: we will keep an eye and if the president has anything to say when he shows up. the trump administration this weekend is defending a in proposal to deter migrants from even coming to the u.s. border and crossing illegally, the administration wants to be able to detain migrant families together indefinitely rather than separating children or releasing families to a wait
court dates, with that we bring in vice president national security foreign policy the heritage foundation james carafano. something that the more hawkish tougher immigration folks were pushing for for a long time. 60 days for court fights by the aclu and others on this one, are they going to be able to do this? >> they'll be a court challenge but we always talk about is this something of the hard right, this is much more humane policy, first of all, if you're dragging children across the border, that's putting children at risk and the number one responsibility of the u.s. government is to make sure the children are safe and taken care of. does anybody -- so first of all, deterrent to doing that to begin which is child endangerment but the other thing does somebody think it's a great idea to take family to bus stops and say, you are on your own -- leland: the question, though, is will this make it through the courts or is this just a --
>> two things, number one deterrent, even if it -- oh, maybe we shouldn't do this. the other thing is -- and this is part of, i think, a political status, the president is saying, before november 2020i will do everything possible to show the american people that i'm trying to enforce law and secure the border and they are not, he's trying to drive that as big as he could. leland: that's an interesting point. this is the tweet from beto o'rourke in terms of looking tat politics of this as we put the tweet from beto up on the screen, we have it, we don't have it. there it is. thousands of kids separated from their parents, children dead as a result of our care, countless more sleeping on concrete floors, the cruelty will only get worse until we end it. that plays into your point. >> right, what's his solution? let people drag kids across the border, put them in danger to death, rape and murder and dehydration and death in the
desert and being dumped into american cities, what's a better answer? leland: we take a look now at what is happening in the g7 summit, this is the beginning of right now the summit that starts with a dinner, emmanuel macron is the host of the dinner as it works out here, so he hosts everybody who comes in, we already saw the president of the european union, we see some other world leaders walking up, what a shot looking out there over the atlantic ocean, boris johnson is now coming up in the land rover as we look at the pictures, you think about the picture that just happened between emmanuel macron and boris johnson who will get out of the land rover right there, boris johnson the mayor of london was seen sitting next to emmanuel macron in the french president's office with his foot up on the coffee table, they looked like they were yucking it up. gillian: the first time we are
seeing president trump interact with boris johnson as prime minister n. the -- in the past, lot of press, first time they are coming together as two heads of state, heads of government, so it's a very big moment for the two allies, there he's standing in between french president emmanuel macron and wife bridgette. leland: james carafano, heritage foundation, this is the big g7 summit where all the european leaders and boris johnson before brexit. >> johnson has been a rock and he said we are leaving and he has completely changed the dynamic and negotiations of the eu and quite honestly they don't know what to do about it. i think we are heading for hard brexit. leland: hutch of that is going to be sort of the under currents
of this, we've got macron and boris johnson smiling and pointing out the beautiful spot that they're at, et cetera, et cetera, it seems as though there's a little bit of real -- >> france thinks their status is elevated if britain is out, they are happy to see deal. this isn't about let's figure out how we can do this, everybody has their own agenda and macron has a definite agenda and he's happy to see a deal and johnson knows that. leland: what do we watch for in this? what would be the surprises? >> i don't know if there are any surprises in this thing in particular. i thought this was just the whole thing was going to explode, so many issues on the table, fighting over iran, they are fighting over brexit, they are terrified about the stagnation of the economy and europe and what to do with china gillian: buy greenland.
leland: used to be g7 everybody was coming together and talking and, et cetera, et cetera, now it's almost that there's nothing that they agree on, they are fight over everything. gillian: yet they all come together for glorious weekend to shake hands. leland: i would go for one weekend. >> issues that affect our lives. that doesn't happen at the g7, though, it is important that they get together and they talk. >> so crucial no matter what is said, what is accomplished or not accomplished, the fact of them getting together having face time in a room with each other and then one-on-one bilaterally still huge. >> when you pointed out boris johnson and donald trump, revolutionized foreign policy, really good for the united states to have the guys together. that's huge for us. gillian: president trump distancing himself from the other western european powers, it's important that he has somebody in his corner in that part of the world. that's boris johnson. >> you mention greenland,
denmark, everybody hates trump. the reality is they know trump is a serious player, they can't talk about this in public because everybody hates trump but when they close the doors, they have real discussions about real issues and they put all that, the junk aside and they really talk about this, it is a big, big deal. >> noteworthy, i think it was either the last g7 or the one before that in canada where president trump tweeted out as he was flying over the atlantic, those landed like 30 bolders and getting back together with this group, is enough of people being able to brush the shoulders because as you see the president seen as serious player or there's animosity that still exists? >> in the back room nobody know that is you can't go it at it alone. we will figure out how to mobilize the global economy together, we are going to figure out how to deal with iran together, they know that.
leland: surprise of president trump being so different than everybody else, probably warn off -- gillian: the question what may go behind closed doors, is the president going to raise with them individually the same thing that he's raised publicly here in the united states on twitter, like, for example, allowing russia back into g7 or is that more the comment that the president makes to rile people up and take a temperature check? >> let's buy greenland, i think the president likes to play with the world. china, iran, the global economy, those are real discussions. >> greenland was serious enough to cancel the visit over. that's not just planned. >> you don't poke at the president of the united states and get away with it and that was, i think, a very remark and could have came back we love that you're interested in greenland.
>> the response could have been much more diplomatic. leland: the united states responded if -- [laughter] >> there you go. california, okay, let's talk. leland: think about that too. >> greenland is actually a really, really big issue. it's an incredibly important place, security, enormous resources there, the future is important to the united states, we should be working with denmark and canada on this, the fact -- i don't care how it got started, the fact that we are talking about greenland and dealing with some of the issues, i'm excited about that, kudos to the president for doing that. leland: didn't it started with tom cotton? >> heritage foundation, the first think tank --
>> you at the heritage foundation. >> it's important for the environment, it's important for energy, it's super important for transalantic security. gillian: abe of japan, we are waiting for german chancellor angela merkel but so far it looks like president macron of france are greeting everyone as they are coming in, what do you think is on president trump's mind for dinner tonight, their lunch earlier today, lost track of time, they talked about some -- they talked about trade, they talked about the common national security interest, but tonight what do you think is on president trump's mind? >> well, i think the number one thing for the united states really has to be the global economy and continue global growth, that is key to reelection campaign and key to
policy, growing economy, that's not to be number one. also pointed out that there's something on the agenda that doesn't get to talk about and they invited african countries to come to europe and that's important because china is competing in africa and not in a healthy way, it's corrupt, undermining democracy, it's actually not helping economic -- gillian: this is the arrival of japan's prime minister shinzo abe, there he is with his wife greeting president macron. >> chinese experts at playing everybody else against each other. they play us off against the europeans, to your point in africa, in central america, in latin america as well buying up ports, building things as part of road, et cetera waxer needs to happen at an event like this for everyone to say, look, we are willing to put aside our minor differences in order to confront china because that
hasn't happened and president trump hasn't been able to bring everybody together. >> he has on his watch, he has really helped bring to light the notion that -- leland: he hasn't been able to bring macron and abe and merkel and everybody else on board to confront china in the meaningful way. >> but the point is everybody now recognizes that china is a global challenge and that the rise of china is destabilizing, so you're right, we are not at the point that we all agree 100% and we know it's a problem, here is the other thing, this is what gets said in the back room, they know that to solve the problem they have to work on it together. >> the arrival of german chancellor angela merkel, arrive to go meet the french president. leland: longest serving member of leaders. gillian: and how much longer she has left is unclear, she struggled in the last couple of years with an immigration crisis
in her country, president trump has made a lot about comparing that crisis to what he's dealing with here in the u.s. southern border, a lot of challenges for her this year. leland: james, we wrap up here for the hour, take ways to watch for, anything that would you'd say, wow, that really was either great or gee, this could be trouble? >> like you said, normally talk fest. >> most important things happen will never get reported, but the conversations that start. gillian: well, we have to leave it there, thanks, james, thanks for joining us, we will hand it over to new york coming up in a couple of seconds, we will see you tomorrow. eric: the pictures are stunning and spectacular, there's president macron along with wife
bridgette add angela merkel admiring the view while there's questions of what they are talking about, state of global economy, this as president trump attending g7, we will show you live in france, right now the world leaders about to hold working din we are the 7 richest economies, you can see president macron and wife are greeting one by one, each of the other g7 leaders as they arrive at that cliff side park, admire the view and have informal conversations before they all retire to the formal dinner in just