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florida up to north carolina. >> bill hemmer is live this morning in florida. >> it is not the day to eat at joe's. wait until tomorrow at least. >> see you tomorrow morning. >> bill: thank you, guys, another day of dorian. i'm bill hemmer live atlantic beach, florida. 10 miles due east of jacksonville on the atlantic ocean where hurricane dorian is a category 2 and winds of 105. overnight we watched the storm parallel the coast. the eastern coast of florida as it moves up gaining strength and gaining speed as it moves. now moving at 8 to 9 miles per hour, which is substantially different from where it was 48 hours ago, then a stationary storm over the bahamas. it wreaked havoc for so many people out there. there are hurricane warnings still in florida, georgia, south and north carolina as we
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move throughout the next three hours we'll let you know on "america's newsroom," welcome and good morning. i'm live here in florida and a big welcome back to julie banderas working for sandra. >> julie: millions of americans as bill was talking about from florida to the carolinas now bracing for hurricane dorian, the now very strong category 2 killer packing winds of more than 100 miles per hour. meanwhile we're seeing scenes of utter devastation in the bahamas. communities there flattened homes and buildings destroyed. at least seven people dead and that number is sure to rise. >> going through it was terrifying. i went through hurricane matthew, which was another strong storm, and that paled in comparison. we're happy to be alive. glad my family is safe. you know, we can rebuild.
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>> they need every piece of help they can get. it is totally devastating, heartbreaking. >> bill: you think two days ago on labor day it was a category 5 hurricane. with me today rick leventhal. we worked late last night and start this morning. good morning in neptune beach, florida. hello. >> we're getting some squalls blowing through here and light rain falling now. nothing too bad. winds not bad now but expected to get worse throughout the day. the highways are virtually deserted behind me and florida is so lucky this storm tracked further east off the coast. the northern bahamas as you mentioned got absolutely devastated by what was at that time a category 5 and a very powerful category 4. authorities are just now getting to the hardest-hit areas of abaco slammed by 180 plus miles per hour winds, torrential rains and a two
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story tall flood surge that left much of the island under water and residents without roofs or walls. death toll has risen to seven. the prime minister and leaders of the bahamas say the death toll could rise as they get to more areas. people in free port were trapped in attics and shelters destroyed. some of those people being rescued by jet skis and boats. authorities say at least 13,000 houses, 45% of the homes in grand bahama and abaco are damaged or destroyed. 60,000 people need food and clean drinking water. in florida the situation far better. there has been some localized flooding. 20,000 power outages reported, roughly 2500 customers here in duvall county, the bridges are
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open. you see some traffic out here. the causeways will close if and when winds reach 39 miles an hour. it could happen later today and gusts up to 65 through the night and into possibly tomorrow morning. the worst threat now is to the north and south carolina coastlines where this storm may well hit as at least a category 1 hurricane. >> bill: thank you, rick. good to have you back from jacksonville, florida. from atlantic beach the police chief is here with us. what did you observe in your wonderful beachside community? >> thank you. we were busy last night. we started to see the trees coming down, localized flooding. we do have power outages within our community. the beach surf and erosion is starting to happen. >> bill: you had a curfew at 10:00, lifted at 6:00 a.m. i am told that half of the residents decided to ride this out. does that sound right to you?
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>> i would argue the number is probably higher which is scary. we're fortunate now the impacts aren't terrible but we're still waiting for the brunt of the storm to hit us along the coast here. we expect more trees to come down and more wires to come down and more flooding to happen. >> bill: the flooding can shall flash flooding in jacksonville. what is it like on the coast? >> it's just water rising. although i wouldn't describe it as flash flooding the water can rise quickly if waves break the dunes. we're concerned about the waves coming over the dunes and flooding streets and homes. >> bill: back to the residents who live and chose to ride it out. does that number surprise you? it seems very high. >> it does. over the years we've had close calls with storms. i think people have a sense of confidence that nothing will happen here. but all it takes is one as you see in the bahamas. it takes one storm and it can devastate you. our hearts go out to those in
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the bahamas suffering now and we hope we won't feel the same thing here. >> people are watching the television and making their own best decision as to whether or not hour by hour, day-by-day they should get out for stay behind. i just thought that number was very high. >> it is high. i would caution people to listen to the local authorities. we have the best interests of the community at heart. we were in contact with the national weather service daily and when we issue warnings we ask people listen to them. we want everybody to be safe and want people to go home to their houses and be in one piece and be safe. >> bill: you can't go inside their house and yank them out. >> no, we can't. we wouldn't do that. if there is an emergency call for service, we'll get our first responders out there as quickly as we can and try to do our best to help them. >> bill: last question, what do you expect throughout the day today? >> we expect conditions to deteriorate more, more high wind, rain, surf, flooding.
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a long day for atlantic beach. >> appreciate you coming back. you guys have been terrific. thank you for taking great care of us. move up the coast now. in the crosshairs very soon will be the state of georgia and then south carolina into north carolina. hurricane warnings set up for all these states. category 2 storm. maybe thursday into friday morning trails off to a category 1 as it moves up the coast. with me in north carolina and raleigh is lieutenant governor dan forest. you get a sense what's going on in northeastern florida. what are you getting ready for in the carolinas? >> as always, bill, good morning. you always have to hope for the best and prepare for the worst in these hurricanes. we've seen that through modern technology people can track these storms minute by minute. as you see a storm drop from a 5, 4, 3, 2 all of a sudden you may make the assumption that
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category 1 hurricane is not a bad storm. it is still a hurricane and people are still in the path. north carolina may take multiple hits as it moves across the state. you always have to prepare for the worst. we have a phenomenal emergency management team here in north carolina doing just that. >> bill: as you look at this storm and you've been watching it for more than a week, right? now every day you get a different shift in the trajectory. what are you hearing from people up there? here in florida they're fatigued and they've grown a bit weary after watching dorian for so long, sir. >> i think that happens storm after storm, we've had so many lately. the recent ones from matthew to florence and what happens in north carolina more recently is that we kind of downplay the wind as i was just saying, the category version of the storm but forget about the water and flooding. it has been the flooding that has been devastating in north carolina and generally where
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people lose their lives, bill. people need to pay attention to the water levels rising and those types of things. if you have the ability to get out, you should get out. these storms are still massive storms and can wreak havoc on the coast. the barrier islands are very fragile and just inland from there in places like new burn. they had massive flooding where they never had it before. a lot of issues. you can't predict these storms. there are 2600 meteorologists that work for the national weather service and they're fighting minute by minute to try to figure out what the storm is doing. they can't predict it a day from now. >> bill: you think about hurricane florence that came through there on the eastern half of your state was under water. i don't think a lot of people expected that. that's the unpredictability of the storm. 20 years ago hurricane floyd headed for jacksonville and parked over your state and you saw historic flooding then as well. >> we've had hugo do massive
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damage in charlotte far inland. fran and floyd do massive damage in very far inland from the coast. if you think about a 30 mile-per-hour wind it's significant. gusts up to 60 and 70 miles an hour it can do serious damage with the oak trees we have. my house was destroyed during hurricane matthew. a tree feel on my house and destroyed it. i'm in raleigh. everybody needs to be prepared for these things. we the end to take them for granted and downplay. don't do that if you're on the coast of north carolina. >> bill: we'll get updates from your team in raleigh. the good news for here in florida, sir, is that the storm is 100 miles offshore and we'll feel tropical storm winds here but we won't feel hurricane-force winds. 24 hours ago if you had told a lot of people here in northeastern florida that's what they would get they would have taken that.
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last comment on that, sir. >> i would say 24 hours ago in north carolina we saw this thing pushing out into the atlantic and everybody was thinking it will be 100 miles off the coast. now it looks like it might be hitting multiple points along the coast of north carolina. again, prepare for the worst and pray for the best. >> bill: thank you, sir, the lieutenant governor live in raleigh. our best to you up in north carolina. you've seen your share in recent years. thank you for your time today. the last point there, julie, he is making. if you look at some of these predictions. 2600 meteorologists, there might be more than that right nou. a lot of amateurs online. the models show a strong chance of south carolina and north carolina. there is still the hope, however, that this thing veers off and blows out to the ocean. over the weekend i guarantee you, julie, no one was expecting that strong -- that to even be a possibility. it is today and we hope and
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pray that ultimately that could be the case. once these storms interact with land we never know what they will do and how they will act. >> julie: yeah. this one is definitely all over the place. the residents in florida breathing a bit of a sigh of relief today. we'll go back to you momentarily. meantime another major story that we're following for you today. new video from the coast guard of that tragic dive boat fire in southern california. 34 people are presumed dead. what the coast guard is telling their families this morning. plus reaction pouring in as wal-mart announces a big change to its gun policy in the wake of several mass shootings and we've got more team coverage of hurricane dorian as northern florida and the carolinas brace for impact. florida congressman ted yoho is here next. >> it was a hurry up and wait. we're enjoying the quiet time nou. it definitely picked up
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and obviously we'll see the damage that we end up taking. >> julie: florida governor ron desantis. coastal communities are feeling hurricane dorian. they dodged a direct hit but slamming northern florida and south carolina with wind and rain. joining us now florida congressman ted yoho. thank you for talking to us. this storm while as unpredictable as possible spared florida from a direct hit. people along the coast of florida aren't just yet out of the woods. what advice for the people of your district? >> julie, are you absolutely right. as you know when you lived in florida these things are unpredictable. this is a dynamic structure that's still moving out of the bahamas and moving north, northwest. it has the possibility of gaining strength and reorganizing and changing its direction and so the most important thing is follow the recommendations of the leaders
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in your area. your emergency operations centers, your sheriffs, your county administrators and mayors because they have your best interests at heart. and the best thing that we can hope for is this bypasses us and the rest of the united states. we've been through too many of these especially in the last three years. and this is not something to mess with. be prepared and act accordingly. >> julie: right now a category 2. by the time it makes landfall in the carolinas it will be downgraded to category 1 and expected to speed up after it sat over the bahamas and created the most devastation that that area has ever seen. once it travels off the daytona beach coast it will be sometime around 2:00 p.m. by this afternoon. what do you expect where you are and what do you expect for the coastal communities in particular? nonetheless it is a category 2 storm, 100 miles off the coast
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but pushing in some strong winds. >> real strong winds. category 2 is still 110 miles an hour. what we're predicting here is a rise in the water levels especially along the st. john's and the coasts around jacksonville and further south. with the st. john's it's a river that runs north. the mouth is in jacksonville. if the waves and winds rip around the water can't get out and exit into the ocean. so it fills up. i had a report this morning from local bait shop there in florida at tom's trail boss and he said that the water is at a sustainable level right now. it's six inches to a foot below the sea wall. what we're looking is monitoring that and advising people to heed the warnings and make sure you leave in plenty of time. >> julie: other advice for people don't do what the people on the upper right side of your screen was doing that was
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yesterday in jacksonville. the waves and storm surge, the undertow is not something to play around with if you go to the beach. don't get in the water. >> absolutely not. and power lines come down and you just don't know when they'll come down. just stay out of that area for the safety of everybody. >> julie: you talked about me being in florida. i lived in florida and grew up in singer island, florida. every time a hurricane or tropical storm we were evacuated. i know what it feels like to live along the southern and eastern seaboard of the state of florida. what do you do when you have a hurricane like this where basically the entire state was expecting something, right? now everybody is under all these mandatory evacuations especially in the low lying areas, people that live in mobile homes. what does everybody do? we go north, right? now that storm is headed north. what are you hearing about all those people, the evacuees that were told you have to evacuate and now you have to come back before the storm hits further
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northwest? >> well, you know, again as you said it's just preparation in florida. that's part of life in florida. i was in marathon, florida with my wife when this first started heading this way. so we were debating do we go north or stay here. we came up north because we have a house on the st. john's river. we spent the day yesterday putting sandbags around the pertinent structures that we could and hopefully we don't have to use those. the best thing is be prepared and hopefully you don't have to use any of that. >> julie: congressman ted yoho, thank you very much. a brand-new op-ed, why it is warning a narrowing democratic field could be bad news for the president. former arkansas governor mike huckabee will weigh in. plus newly released video showing rescuers responding to that tragic dive boat fire off the southern california coast. and what we're now learning about the 34 victims next. >> we will not be determining
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>> bill: back here in atlantic beach, florida still dealing with dorian and we will for several days to come. hurricane-force winds extending 60 miles from the center. tropical storm winds 170 miles from the center. storm is about 90 to 100 miles off the shore. what you see here as it rides up the florida coast we're going to experience these bands of winds and rain for the next day and a half here in northeastern florida. we've watched the skies and the sun came up earlier today peeking through the clouds for a moment. we can see light clouds to my right and darkening clouds to
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my left. shows you the bands that will lash out here in northeastern florida for the next well into thursday afternoon. so we're watching it and let you know what we learn in a moment. coming up we'll talk to fema. big operation for the federal government to try to keep everybody okay. also what we're learning about the bahamas. critical state right now when you think about this storm and the legacy already has been life-changing for so many in the bahamas. we'll get you there live and that's coming up shortly live here in florida. back to new york now and more with julie. >> i see five guys in a dinghy or the ender at the back of the body and they're calling for help. i'm thinking about they're trapped underneath, what kind of horror are they going through. i knew instantly that they weren't going to get off alive. i'm sorry, i knew they were all going to perish. >> julie: new information coming in on the horrific boat fire just off the coast of
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california. the search now for survivors has been suspended as the coast guard switches its operations toward recovering remains. as we learn more about the 34 people on that dive boat who are now presumed dead. william la jeunesse is live in santa barbara this morning. hi, william. >> three investigations underway now. one by the sheriff on the criminal side. the coast guard and the ntsb which will provide an initial report within 10 days on the crews' response as well as the fire and any mistakes and malfunctions. two boats behind me. the closest one is an identical copy to the boat that sank. the ntsb has 16 experts here and use it as a guy or model to piece together what they hear from the crew and the first responders. you'll notice on the top deck is where the crew slept and was apparently awake when the fire broke out around 3:30. the second deck is the galley,
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the kitchen as well as the dining area. below deck is where the 33 passengers and one crew member were sleeping. that, of course, is one of the focuses of the ntsb. we have video from the coast guard from a helicopter that was shot around 6:50 in the morning, three hours after this fire began. how did it happen? why did it move so quickly? the boat is a fiberglass-clad wood boat. gas in the generator, propane in the grill. oxygen fed into the scuba tanks and nitrox, highly flammable gas, a leak in the system it would be like a blow torch, the ntsb said it's confident of reaching a finding. >> 100% confident that our investigators will determine the cause of this fire, why it occurred, how it occurred, and what is needed to prevent it from happening again absolutely.
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>> the other focus will be on the limited escape routes. there is a memorial to the victims placed on the dock where the -- for the victims ages 17 to 60s including a family of five. the sheriff said, however, that those victims were literally trapped by the fire and could not get out. >> appearing as though the people below deck were trapped and unable to exit the vessel. that does appear to be exactly what happened. that there was a stairwell to get down the main entry way up and down and there was an escape hatch and it would appear as though both of those were blocked by fire. >> the county has brought in some experts from the state for dna rapid analysis. it was used in the wildfires that can go through five samples in 90 minutes rather than sending it to the lab to help identify the victims.
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>> julie: the sooner the better for the answers the families are waiting for. thank you. now back to bill in atlantic beach in florida >> bill: janice dean is watching the updates there. el is down shore and we'll talk to fema in a moment about the needs of the southeastern u.s. that's coming up in a moment as we continue. >> it doesn't take much to imagine what could have happened in florida or in other states up the coast when it comes to dorian. you look at the bahamas. still not over yet. be prepared for any scenario.
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>> bill: back here live in atlantic beach, florida, 9:30 on the east coast here. 9:33 in the morning we're watching the devastation from the bahamas and we'll get updates throughout the morning to try to get more information out of the hard-hit area. we're underneath a deck area here that protects us from the
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rain and wind, too, that enables us to stay on the air the next three hours. we're in a pretty good spot frankly with the storm churning 100 miles off the shore of florida it won't make a direct hit at least in this part of the u.s. the hotel we stayed in for the last couple of nights have these hurricane-proof winds, two years ago when the hurricane ripped through here it tore apart that hotel. the windows are 2 inches thick. it's -- to watch the storm on the outside and not hear it at all and to feel safe and protected. it is extraordinary technology that so many people around the state of florida are using to help protect them when these storms roll through. in a moment we will talk to the fema director in washington, d.c. and ellison barber 150 miles down the coast in melbourne but get to janice dean and get to the coordinates and what you're seeing on the radar with all that technology. >> if i could just say for one
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moment the national hurricane center has had a great forecast especially within the last three days. this is the cone five days out. this storm stalled for a matter of two to three days around the bahamas. they had that in their forecast and knew it would move northward and the forecast three days out was excellent and we knew what would happen. florida was always in the cone of uncertainty and that's why we have to give you that margin of error. there was the potential for this storm to move a little bit more towards the west and that's why as forecasters we had to warn folks in florida, georgia and the carolinas that you could have impacts from this storm. now as forecast it is moving north and northwest 8 miles per hour. we're seeing the tropical storm winds along the coast of florida for the next couple of hours. we have a very good indication we could come with a close
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brush if not the landfall of a hurricane between the border of north carolina and south carolina thursday night into friday. so people need to be on their guard, listen to their local officials and local forecasters as well, bill, back to you. >> bill: great stuff. janice, thank you. 150 miles south of here on the atlantic ocean and melbourne, florida, ellison barber is back there. how are conditions now, ellison? >> conditions are improving and they're getting better every minute. overnight the strongest wind gust recorded in brevard county was 70 miles an hour a little after midnight. since 6:00 a.m. this morning wind gusts in the area have not exceeded 30 miles an hour. people are on the beach and coming for walks and taking photos. looking at things. some have been picking up any debris left behind. if you look out in the water you will see surfers. we've seen more and more
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surfers come out this morning taking to the waves. the national weather service says it is risky, the surf is still high and rough. they say people should still expect strong wind gusts and brief bursts of heavy rain all day today. coastal flooding is still a threat as is beach erosion. tropical storm warning is in effect for this area but about 30 minutes ago, bill, the county of brevard lifted the mandatory evacuation orders. >> bill: amazing to see how many people stuck around. thank you, melbourne beach, florida south of us. to fema we go in washington, d.c. with me now is jeffrey byard. i've seen you on tv for several days now. thank you for spending a few moments for us. what is your headline at the moment as you watch this target the southeastern u.s. >> thank you very much. our headline is those residents that are still in the cone of uncertainty please make sure you are heeding your local and
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state warnings. this storm has been a very slow moving storm and it has caused a lot of fatigue along the coast. it is coming. residents in south carolina and north carolina and georgia dorian is headed your way. the governor has done a great job of getting on mandatory evacuations early in those states. i'll say thank you to the media. the storm has been a marathon for all of us. the continuing coverage that you give and your ability to get out to the citizens that this storm is still a threat has been phenomenal. appreciate that. >> bill: when you know it's a marathon storm how does that change things for you and the men and women who work with you? >> we're all -- our nature by nature we want to fix things when they're broke. that's what emergency management does. we want to help people when they need help. in a situation like this we want to take advantage of every minute we have. we want to make sure we're communicating and have lines of communication open all the way
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from here at headquarters and the region all offices through the states and locals and we have that. we want to make sure we have adequate amounts of water, mres and other critical supplies necessary should and when the storm impacts and we have that. having the time is great for that. also you have to have the mental patience and operational discipline to understand that you have to be here for the long haul and take care of the men and women behind me to make sure they're ready to go when that landfall hits and we are. so unfortunately and fortunately we've had a lot of experience, 2017 we were in this type of activation for over 80 days. we know what it takes to do that. again, we want to help people. >> bill: wow. just want to jump in there a moment. a storm like this or even two years ago do you reposition every 24 hours, every 12 hours, 6 hours, what is it? >> we really start positioning
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and repositioning days before, as much time as we have before. for example, with this storm especially when the track started to move north, we started building out resource bases in north carolina and south carolina and georgia and florida. the bulk of the staff in florida and started spreading the peanut butter across the southeastern coast. we have staff in south carolina, georgia, north carolina. we try to be as proactive in anticipating. when we do that we go big. so we want to be there and now what you'll see happening is we'll start moving staff behind the storm so that any impacts we're there to support the state and local partners with anything they may need. >> bill: right. flooding and power, that's always the two things you deal with after a storm like this. finally can you tell us anything about coordination with the bahamas or what is happening there with regard to the u.s. coast guard at all? >> the men and women of the coast guard are truly america's first responders, you know.
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they're part of dhs. they're our sisters and brothers across the department. they're already there and doing what they do. they save lives is what they do every day. the situation in the bahamas our hearts and prayers go out for them. fema we're focused on what we're intended to focus on which is that dorian strike on our coast, however, we're supporting interagency partners through coordination efforts. they're doing an outstanding job working with the secretary and working with the acting administrator making sure what we can provide is there. you know, our urban search and rescue, we have international teams that are preparing to support. they do an outstanding job. it is a one team, one fight. you have to remember that dorian has definitely -- still has its sights on the american coastline the fema is supporting state and locals on that effort. >> bill: they need it in the
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bahamas. that's for certain. thank you for your time from fema in washington, d.c. good luck to you. you have a big job ahead of you. you aren't over. i know you know that. thank you for your time today. just getting an alert locally. duvall county just west of our location, the alert reads life threatening ocean conditions in duvall county. stay off the beach and out of the water. as you can see the beach churn behind us we saw one of these emergency vehicles go by an hour ago on the mega phone. they tell everybody to evacuate. they issue the mandatory evacuation. a lot of people listen to it. for a storm like this that has been lingering for so long in the caribbean, people really have been watching their tvs julie and making their own decisions hour by hour. more than half as you heard the police chief say last hour, more than half of the people here in atlantic beach and up and down the shoreline decided to stay and ride it out.
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>> julie: we're floridians. some predicted what would happen and they do grow weary as you mentioned earlier. back to you in a moment. first democratic frontrunner joe biden making his pitch to the hawkeye state. listen to this. >> i'll still go there every time. i'm going to compete for every vote in the state. >> julie: before the vice president said iowa is not a must-win state. former arkansas governor mike huckabee joins us next. leading them to discover: we're woven together by the moments we share. everything you need, all in one place. expedia. you may have gingivitis. when you brush, and the clock could be ticking towards bad breath, receding gums, and possibly... tooth loss. help turn back the clock on gingivitis with parodontax. leave bleeding gums behind. parodontax.
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>> julie: let's head to the 2020 campaign trail for a moment. democratic frontrunner joe biden brushing off iowa as a need to win state. senior advisor for his campaign saying this, i quote. do i think we have to win iowa? no. we think we're going to win. we think it's going to be a dog fight. but we think there are several candidates in the field. there are probably three or
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four that are going to go awhile. joining me now is former arkansas governor and fox news contributor mike huckabee. are those confident words? after months of campaigning does it sound like biden's team is lowering expectations by saying iowa is not a must-win state? >> it is a bizarre statement. a self-fulfilling prophesy when you think we don't think we'll win iowa and doesn't matter. what happens in iowa with somebody who combated the forces of iowa a couple of times politically and won it one time. here is the fact. if you tell the people of iowa very politically savvy and very politically in tune that you probably won't win there, you aren't going to work that hard there, you aren't going to win there. they'll look for a candidate who wants to win iowa, who fights to win iowa. he might as well quit going to biden, go to new hampshire and south carolina and skip it together. he just toasted his own buns.
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>> julie: there are recent national polls show that biden is the dominant frontrunner still. senators warren and sanders are trailing in second and third place. doug schoen has a new piece out here is the headline. shrinking field of presidential candidates is bad news for trump. here is why. first i want to ask you, do you see anything at this point that president trump should be worried about? >> well, i think any time you are in a campaign you have to be worried. there are only two ways to run a campaign, unopposed or scared. and he is not unopposed so he needs to run with a sense of all out, which he is doing. he is not putting his feet up. this is the hardest working campaigner i've ever seen in my life. that's not an issue. he can't take it for granted. one thing he has 90% of the news media that attacks him every single day. that is something he has to
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continually overcome. i hate to say it but i think doug shown is right. the sooner the field narrows down the worse it is for the president. the better for the democrats because then their money and support isn't spread out over 374 candidates. >> julie: i want to get more into the piece. the narrowed field will help to eliminate the noise and confusion that voters face when dealing with a large primary field and finally allow for the top candidates to have an open dialogue digestible to voters. one result of the smaller field appearing on one night will be that biden will at last share the stage with warren, his fiercest progressive contender. so we talk about the race for the democratic nomination for the president becoming less crowded. should biden be the one more worried with attention on his gaffes taking center stage more and more as the crowd narrows? >> biden needs to be worried because biden just doesn't seem to be able to handle it at the podium. he better read from a
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teleprompter and bring a script. even then he has trouble getting to joe 330 and understanding what that means. the one thing about doug's piece i might take a little issue with. if the democrats narrow their field and pick a candidate early there is an advantage. the disadvantage what if they pick the wrong one? what if they pick someone who immroeds or pick someone early and all the others are out of the race and the person they pick can't go the distance either because they just don't have ideas that people want, or they continue to expose themselves as radically left? >> julie: great to see you. thank you very much. the stars of a hit tv show backtracking from some pretty controversial comments online. what one actor is now saying about a black list of trump donors in hollywood. stunning new details on the college admissions scandal. what one dad caught up in the case is accusing the university of southern california of doing.
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>> julie: will and grace star mccormick is now saying he doesn't support black lists as he calls it and that his comments were misinterpreted. robert gray is following this from our los angeles newsroom this morning. >> that's right. the latest in a string of social media quotes from the actors in the tv show "will & grace" are related to a fundraises for the president. caused a lot of controversy. mccormick posted he is not calling for a boycott of trump donors. he doesn't support black lists or discrimination of any kind. he wanted to know full transparency who the donors are and last week of course he
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tweeted to the hollywood reporter to report on everyone attending the event so they would know who they didn't want to work with. co-star debra messing used social media to be asked that the list of attendees be published. it struck a nerve with some in hollywood including whoopie goldberg as she recalled damage done to the lives of many during the mccarthy era black lists. >> people did this, people ended up killing themselves. this is not a good idea. in this country people can vote for who they want to. that's one of the great rights of this country. you don't have to like it. >> john o'hurley best known for his seinfeld row said the tweets sent the wrong message and he was embarrassed for both of them. >> it underscores the fact that we aren't receptive to diversity of thought, which is
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the exact opposite of what you feel the liberal way would be. >> the president is not the only candidate heading this way. joe biden and senators cory booker and kamala harris scheduled to hold fundraisers in the l.a. area this month. >> julie: thank you very much. let's head back to florida and bill hemmer. >> bill: back on dorian now. steve harrigan is live in the bahamas. we'll get a read on where we are today in a place of the world that has been forever changed as a result of a category 5 hurricane. back in a moment as our coverage continues live here in florida.
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>> bill: hurricane dorian continues to church off the florida coast. good morning, everymer. hour two begins now. our coverage of hurricane dorian continues as well. the storm itself is moving up the florida coast 100 miles offshore. good news to people in florida that have had high anxiety for a week and a half trying to figure out where the storm goes next. at the moment category 2, winds at 105 miles an hour moving west/northwest at 8 miles per hour. it picked up steam overnight. that from a category five storm two days ago that sat staish naer over the bahamas leaving at least seven dead, seven fatalities in the bahamas as we
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get the assessment from there. steve harrigan is live there and we'll talk to him in a moment and get an assessment what the people will need now. it will be a lot. here if florida in the meantime you have 18,000 without power and i think if you had forecasted that a few days ago, that would be considered a victory with this storm with only 18,000 losing power. on the beach behind us encouraging people to stay off the beach. a lot of people chose to ride out the storm. you can hear the siren on the truck behind me. the loudspeaker went out last hour telling people to move away. a few people here or there but not the numbers we saw yesterday when a lot of the sun was out here in northeastern florida as well. want to get to griff jenkins, my colleague down the coast live in daytona beach, florida. about 80 miles south of here. not sure what the conditions are. we're live on the air, griff, go ahead. >> we're here in daytona. you can see the pier behind me.
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look at the waves pummeling the pier. folks in daytona are feeling a little bit of a sigh of relief. they've still got a high tide coming in at 1:00 p.m. in the fear of storm surge and flood is very real but as you can see, it is very high, it's a king tide and will be mixed with the inland intercoastal way, the halifax river in daytona flooded three years ago during hurricane matthew and two years ago in irma. they dodged a major bullet. i got off the phone with the sheriff. things have gone well. no widespread flooding being reported yet. they have just got to make it through this afternoon and through this tide you can see coming up on us. they'll get some water today but doesn't look like it will be anything imagine or. they told me they just made the call to lift curfew tonight. that means things are heading in the right direction.
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feeling very lucky here in daytona, guys. >> bill: good stuff. thank you griff jenkins down the shore here. back here in atlantic beach the mayor of jacksonville is with me now, lenny curry. good morning to you. you had very strong words of advice yesterday. what did you pick up overnight? >> people are saying inland it is quiet when i was out and b. as we came into the beach cities here we see the wind bands and rain. i want people to be smart. the worst of this will come sometime between now and later today. it is south of us moving northwest which is good. and we hope there is little impact. there is still the possibility of major storm surge with wind bands and rain. just be smart. >> bill: just be smart. you're right to say that. a lot of people chose to ride it out. what do you think of that call? >> i would always hope that people would heed evacuation orders. if in fact there is not bad
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impacts, i'm okay with that and coming out on the other side of this and people saying why did you ask us to evacuate? we're making decisions with the best information we have so we can keep people safe. but this storm is still coming up the coast so i don't want people particularly on the coastal communities to rest easy and think they can go out and about or don't get in the water. >> bill: i know you know this well. you've heard the question a lot. you tell us to leave and we leave and it costs us money. we come back, unpack our homes again. you tell us the next time the storm rolls around and eventually fatigue sets in. you as a public servant, how do you answer those questions? >> my third storm in four years. the last two had major impacts. so i have held people crying because they lost property and homes were flooded and they were thirsty, hungry and needed medical attention. when you live through that and experience that as a leader i'm going to always err on the side of making sure people are safe.
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as people are watching this in jacksonville, the storm is still off of our coast. let's be smart. >> bill: look at the clouds out here and the wind shifting from the east to northeast to the north earlier this morning. still coming from the north probably for the next 12 to 18 hours i would guess. >> public safety experts, law enforcement tells me the bridges could still close. this storm it is a fatiguing storm it is moving so slow. we're almost a week into this now. it is off of our coast now. if you're tired and frustrated, this isn't the time to make a move. just let the next -- let the rest of the day go by and this thing to disappear. >> bill: think about all the electric companies that pre-positioned the trucks and we saw the images over the past labor day weekend. 18,000 have lost power. that's amazing. that number is low. >> it is low and again going back to what we've been doing in previous storms. people without power for days. the pain that comes on the
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other side of a storm that hits you hard, you have to exercise every precaution on the front end with the information you have. i'm consulting with public safety experts on the national weather service. they have the best information. i take that information, process it and do what i can to make people safe. >> bill: you have been great to us. thank you for your hospitality here. the mayor from jacksonville, florida. thank you very much. i know yesterday you had a very strong message for the people in the bahamas and we're all feeling for them as well. >> we know some folks over there. i got news today some folks have been in communication with people that we know. so -- >> bill: good news. my best to you and the people here. speaking of the bahamas, steve harrigan left for there late yesterday. he is now live in nassau where the scenes of destruction and the overhead video that has been shot from various helicopters that came in late yesterday afternoon is really just a sight that few of us have ever seen, frankly.
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want to go to steve live now and figure out what they're dealing with today. hello in nassau. >> those images from the sky are simply devastating to look at. it is a total sense of destruction on large parts of the bahamas. there are 70 separate islands. the grand ba hama island as well as abaco islands to the north got pummeled. we just landed on the ground in nassau, which is largely unscathed. the scale of destruction we're talking about at least 15,000 houses destroyed. sometimes entire neighborhoods from the air look like they've just been wiped off the map. the population in those northern islands about 70,000. right now as we stand at least 60,000 people in dire need of food, medical attention, and drinking water. aid has begun to arrive. u.s. coast guard, u.n., as well as the red cross are shuttling aid there as quickly as possible. some real challenges for that
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aid. some of the airports six feet underwater. think about what these people have gone through over the past several days. we had a category 5 hurricane with record level winds, 185 miles per hour sustained winds for two days that sat over the bahamas destroying almost everything in its wake. add to that another 35 inches of rain. people are just really still being discovered. the prime minister put the death toll early on at seven. that's a number we're likely to see rise considerably as the scope of this destruction becomes more clear. back to you. >> bill: steve, let's talk a little bit about the u.s. coast guard and how we can help as a country and government with our men and women who have been flying in and out of there. the coast guard late last night say they've been working in cooperation with the bahama government. can you give us a better sense of how much we can do with that storm lifting past the bahamas?
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>> i think the coast is much clearer now for that aid to get through and the response by the coast guard has been rapid and robust. not only cutters but helicopters as well. international relief aid as well from the u.n. and the red cross. initially the help was simply volunteers. it was people with jet skis, boats, ropes. people swimming trying to save their relatives and trying to save their neighbors. that aid is getting ramped up remarkably quickly as helicopters in the sky above me now, people have seen those pictures, they've seen the complete devastation and the world is answering, the u.s. coast guard is answering quickly to help those in desperate need of aid, bill. >> bill: you are our eyes and ears on the ground in the bahamas. we'll rely on you in the coming days to try to figure out what comes next for those people. thank you from nassau, bahamas. back live from northeastern florida as we continue to gauge
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dorian. warnings in florida, georgia, north carolina and south carolina for the next two days. back to you in new york city. >> julie: as central florida deals with dorian the state of emergency expands in georgia as officials there brace for potentially catastrophic storm surge. >> you'll see in the modeling that we have that the hurricane-force winds have moved closer to the shore, which, you know, is concerning. the rain models changed a little bit for the better but the problem we have is with the storm surge that we're expecting. >> julie: now several areas are under mandatory evacuation orders including the city of darian. the mayor from there joins us by phone hugh hodge. all highs are focused in your direction when we were focused on florida and the bahamas. how is georgia now bracing for what it is expecting to see on
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the impact of dorian? >> good morning. right now we're kind of experienced in the calm before the storm. we've already had four trees gone here in darian and some of the streets are already covered in water and all. we expect our worst weather around midnight starting out. >> julie: i talked about how the folks in georgia are bracing for a potentially catastrophic storm surge. that's what has been the talk about the storm is the storm surge. there aren't mandatory evacuations for the entire city of darian, six different counties received evacuation orders in georgia. when are all residents urged to get out by? >> we pretty much already asked everyone and advised them to do a mandatory evacuation. it's situated right on the
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coast. a shrimping community of 2,000 residents. we have a lot of high wind. our main thing is we're worried about the high tides and the flooding and all and worried about the tornadoes that usually are associated with the high winds and everything. but like i say, we've already asked everybody to move away and the ones that didn't i ask them hunker down now and prepare and keep everybody in their prayers. i want to say -- everybody in our community is pulling together and worried about each other. the thing that gets me is even though i'm worried about people's lives, of course, but the people that have been out of work all week have been buffered down all week and a lot of small businesses have been closed. i'm kind of worrying about their after the storm needs and everything. we're working on that also. the county and all is really pulling together. >> julie: did you happen to experience any influx of
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evacuees? we've been watching this hurricane for a week and it was so slow moving over the bahamas that the state of florida has been in limbo and what we understand is that about half of floridians in evacuation low-lying areas did evacuate. typically they the end to move north into the carolinas and into georgia. did you get florida evacuees? are they now having to head back down south? >> we got quite a few of them. most of them just as i say just passed through. and just to let you know darian is a mile off the interstate. we have highway 17. one main road that goes through our downtown and area and everything. the georgia state patrol and law enforcement handled everything good. most of them just stopped by to get their necessities and moved on through. >> julie: mayor, thank you very much for talking to us. appreciate you coming on. good luck to you and the people of georgia.
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thank you. >> yes ma'am. i want to thank fox news. you all are doing great coverage on it. >> julie: i appreciate that and bill appreciates it as he is standing in the thick of it for now. we appreciate you watching as well. thank you. death and destruction in the bahamas. alexandria ocasio-cortez lays the blame on climate chain warning more people will die unless everyone goes along with her green new deal. plus new concerns for joe biden. will iowa make or break his campaign? why his advisors are saying it's not a must-win state. >> nobody went into this race thinking joe biden was the perfect candidate. he already ran for president a couple of times and fell flat on his face. there was no way to know for sure. hey guys.... daddy, it's pink! but hey. a new house it's a blank canvas. and we got a great one thanks to a really low mortgage rate from navy federal credit union.
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>> julie: youtube facing a steep fine after the federal trade commission said the site illegally collected children's personal data without their parents' consent. the corporate parent google agreeing to pay $136 million to settle with the fcc and another $34 million in a deal with new york state after facebook was find $5 billion by the fcc earlier this year. >> i learned you hold the key
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to the kingdom. you can't get out through iowa, you can't go any further. i've learned that the people of iowa are really informed. >> julie: former vp and 2020 hopeful joe biden stressing the critical role of iowa. now his campaign is saying they're playing down the importance of the hawkeye state saying it's not a must-win contest on the road to 2020. how important is the first in the nation caucus state and can he afford to lose there? let's bring in our a-team. brad blackman, jeanne zaino, political science professor and tom bevan from real clear politics. let's go to you first, brad. i want to talk about biden saying that iowa is not a must-win for him. it seems they are sort of taking the wind out of their own sails. i don't understand what's the tactic here?
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>> the tactic is biden came out and had to win iowa before. now they're lowering expectations. but joe biden has a history with iowa. in 87 he had to leave the race because of scandal and plagiarism and came in fifth in 2008. obama and then we had hillary and joe biden came in fifth. i think they're lowering expectations. remember, you have the third is iowa, it's a caucus, not a direct vote primary and then new hampshire on the 11th and his firewall is later in that month in south carolina. >> julie: how important is iowa? can biden afford to lose there? >> he can afford to lose there and make it into new hampshire and south carolina and keep going. they're lowering expectations, which i don't think is a bad strategy myself. but i think we have to admit the democrats are in a bind here. they've got two progressive
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liberal candidates and one moderate candidate in joe biden who has done this twice before and lost. and so that is the moderate lane. he has taken all of that energy unless somebody like kamala harris does well in california and comes through there i think the democrats have themselves in a little bind with this top three at this point. >> julie: first of all let's look at the real clear politics average now when it comes to iowa and biden is in the clear lead with 30%, warren and sanders are trailing him. is he not -- what's the lack of confidence all about? it seems to me there is a lack of confidence here. >> well, the iowa caucuses favor more progressive candidates. biden does well about african-american voters. very few of them in iowa or new hampshire. he has to wait for south carolina. no presidential candidate in the modern era has won the nomination by losing iowa and new hampshire in the same year.
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so he has to -- if that were to happen. joe biden is a shaky frontrunner. we saw it with barack obama once he won iowa there was a massive shift in the electorate who said this guy can win. i'll move over and support him. i do think a loss for joe biden in iowa could change the dynamics. >> julie: i talked about doug schoen. he came out with a piece the narrower the democratic field the more threat it could potentially be for the president but reince priebus is saying the narrower the field the bigger the threat to the democrats themselves. i want to play him and have you react to them. >> the biggest threat to joe biden is the democratic party. can joe biden run a traditional d.c.-fueled campaign in an insurgent democrat party? i think back to 2016 governor bush had the problem within our own party. could he run a traditional republican campaign fueled by
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traditional republicans in an insurgent republican party? and the answer was no. >> julie: are the democrats -- in the end, if biden is their guy, are they all going to get behind him? is biden going to be at stake for potentially hurting himself more with all the gaffes he has committed recently and when all eyes are on biden could it hurt the democratic party? >> yes, i think if you look at joe biden where he stands in the polls and add up the support for bernie and others, warren and buttigieg, he is under water. so biden, my opinion, the democratic party has long passed him by. he was a progressive, surely. and now is he a socialist democrat? because that's where the party is going. i think the party has been hijacked by a super minority of vocal upstarts and as we've seen in other debates they've pinned themselves into issues that are so far left it will be hard to come to the middle. remember, you have to be
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selected by the party before you are elected by the people. >> julie: speaking of the left. alexandria ocasio-cortez makes biden look like a conservative. as far as the other democrats within his own party and what he is up against. a number of the 2020 dem hopefuls are preparing to talk climate change in town halls tonight. i want to read a tweet put out by ocasio-cortez on climate change. this was yesterday. this is what climate change looks like. it hits vulnerable communities first. i can already hear climate deniers screeching it has always been like this. you're dim, etc. no, this is about science and leadership. we either cut emissions or we don't and let people die. she is saying that opposition to her green new deal will kill people. those are strong words. i want your reaction. >> you know, the bill itself is flawed beyond anything that is going to pass the congress. congress needs to act on climate change, democrats, moderate, liberals, many
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republicans agree on that. that bill is dead on arrival. even amongst democrats. so that rhetoric makes very little sense. they should be talking about climate change, jay inslee, there is a wide open field. the number one issue on the minds of many, many democratic primary voerts and we've seen already several people try to come into that lane. most promisingly elizabeth warren. i would say she is a really bright light in the democratic field. she is making signs that she could moderate some of her views and running the best campaign. >> julie: do republicans need to admit that global warning could be behind some of the upcoming more frequent tropical storm that some experts and scientists and meteorologists have predicted. >> i think some republicans do say the climate is changing. there is a debate whether it's manmade or not. they acknowledge that. this is part of the problem that democrats have. as jeanne mentioned it is a high priority issue on the list of democratic voters. not on republican minds and
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independents. when you couple that on the minds of voters in 2020, the economy, how does the plan that bernie sanders or elizabeth warren or joe biden comes up with that will cost trillions of dollars and they want to decarbonize the economy how do voters think about how it will affect their kitchen table economics? >> julie: great to see you all on this hurricane dorian day. we head back to bill hemmer who is watching it on the ground. >> thank you very much. just watching the coastline in florida we know georgia and the carolinas are next. florida is not done yet. you watch the churn of the storm and the size of it. many people will be impacted. in a moment we'll talk to a local mayor in neptune beach, florida. the police chief is here as well. we'll let you know what they're telling us about overnight last night and into today. back in a moment live in atlantic beach as the watch the
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odessa failed a back ground check and bought the gun through private sale is action congress can take. >> the guy failed a background check because of mental health issues and finds away around it. that's what we're talking about. loopholes. when trump blames mcconnell and the senate and mcconnell says i have to wait on trump it is a game of whack-a-mole and they're playing it at the expense of our kids and people's lives. >> that might not be as easy as democrats suggest. >> the first question we should ask ourselves is how do we actually regulate those private sales? the answers to that question is more elusive than we think it s. what i don't want to do is have a debate about making people feel better but the laws don't actually make you any better. that's the wrong path. >> senate democratic leader chuck schumer made this appeal
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on twitter. people across the country are calling on congress to do something to end gun violence. it's time to lead on this issue. put the house passed background checks bill on the senate floor for a debate and a vote. in the aftermath of the odessa attack the house republican leader told me his focus is making sure whatever congress does is effective. >> that is something we want to make sure we're able to have these hearings, we're able to have law enforcement that has looked at these shootings before and what is the legislation that can prevent this. lots of times we hear legislation come forward that will not prevent this. >> expectations are president trump and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell with speak next week about what the president is willing to accept. >> julie: thank you very much. i'll head down to bill hemmer now in florida. >> bill: thank you, julie. back in florida 10:33 on the east coast. 20 minutes away from the next update from the national hurricane center. julie, when we watched this storm yesterday and woke up in the morning it was moving at 1
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mile-an-hour. throughout the day 2 miles and then 5 and now 8 miles an hour. it's important to give people relief in the bahamas and important to give a lot of people -- millions of people in the southeastern part of the u.s. an idea as to what to expect. when a storm is just sitting there and it is churning in the ocean, and you are guessing as to which way the storm is going to go next, it creates an enormous period of indecision. but at the moment we have at least a better indication where the storm is going. national hurricane center with an update coming up here again in about 10:55 eastern time. they do it every three hours. with me now the mayor of neptune beach is elaine brown and police chief is richard pike. also of neptune beach. good morning to both of you. you are the next beach down. we're in atlantic beach here. how were things last night, mayor? >> that false sense of security, etc. a lot of people looking to come to the beach.
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we're keeping them off the beach as much as we can. no destruction, no flooding. so we feel very fortunate right now, bill. >> bill: how about you, chief? what is your report for the moment and your forecast for today? >> thank you for helping get our message out. remember we're still not at the peak of the atlantic hurricane season. there still could be many evacuations. city leaders, mayor brown, we take those very serious and made in very serious situations so please as the hurricane season unfolds, please heed the warnings. they are dangerous. >> bill: here in atlantic beach last night curfew went into effect at 10:00 a.m. lifted at 6:00 a.m. this morning. my assumption is it goes back on tonight. any issues on your beach? >> no, sir, not yet. it goes in effect at 10:00 tonight. our officers will be out enforcing that curfew. >> we'll see how that goes. you were on vacation and you were in the panhandle. far western part of the state. that got hit by hurricane
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michael just about a year ago. you are driving back a few days ago. what did you see? >> it was frightening. mexico beach was still devastated. there was debris everywhere piled up all the way up to panama city and we hear you better get back home, enough vacation and driving towards our home and our beach all i could picture was what had happened there. and it was mind-boggling. >> bill: part of that -- the mind tends to run wild sometimes when you allow it to and you get caught up in the anxiety of the possibilities that may be waiting for you. in this case, do you think you got lucky? >> we got very lucky. as the chief said we're getting into the hurricane season. there are storms out there right now as you have been covering. what we're seeing is complacency could set in and that's what we don't want to happen. when we say evacuate it's because hundreds of people are saying the storm could be destructive to you, your city, your home and lives. >>
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>> bill: thousands of people decided to ride it out. >> we're several hours from the hurricane being off the beach and the condition of the seas now will only get worse as every hour goes by closer to it. >> bill: we're underneath the deck giving us protection. we wanted the stay out of the elements. the winds are from the north and sustained for the next day from the north. a striking thing to see the way homeowners have now built their houses, a home with four-inch thick hurricane proof windows can take the force of a bullet and prevent it from going inside the home. the hotel has 2 inch thick windows. you can stand inside the hotel room. watch the storm and not hear it. that's amazing. >> that's amazing. as we start looking at sea levels rising and codes change. the codes are changing to make
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sure homes are built higher, there is more tilt homes, cedar key down in south florida will have to start preparing for what this will be in the future. >> bill: to that point every storm changes the way we live, does it not, chief? >> yes, sir. although construction has improved as everybody knows, the highest rate of death during a hurricane, of course, is flood and drowning. regardless of how strong your structure is, if the water is rising around you you still risk that chance. >> bill: you've been on the job how many years? >> 34 years, four as chief. >> bill: as you as mayor how many. >> three years and again this is third hurricane that i've been through right here in this place. we again got very lucky. >> bill: you can understand the fatigue. three storms in four years. >> fatigue of everybody. you and other media have been
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reporting this. keeping people off the beach has done a lot of good. and, you know, you don't know what is going to happen in the afternoon. so i'm urging people to stay away from the beach. >> bill: thank you, my best of luck today. you still have your work cut out for you. chief, the message was well delivered. thank you for your time and my best to all of you. terrific hospitality after the last few days. more with julie in north -- new york city. >> julie: an act situation that secret documents from the university of southern california reveal a rampant culture of pay to play opening the door wider for the children of major donors. plus the deadly california boat fire sparking major questions about safety measures and legal liability. with more than a dozen of the victims still unrecovered. >> we know that there are people here who are learning of loved ones and friends with the folks who may have lost their
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lives on the boat that are mourning today and we mourn with them. hi i'm joan lunden.
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>> julie: new revelations in the massive college admissions scandal. lawyers for miami developer robert van grilo, one of the nearly three dozen parents accused of fraud claim they have data that proves usc gave preferentialal students whose families made generous donations, spreadsheets and emails showing students tagged as v.i.p. and special interest candidates. the university response. his filing appears to be part of a legal and public relations strategy to divert attention away from the criminal fraud for which he has been indicted by a federal grand jury. >> i am 100% confident that our investigators will determine the cause of this fire, why it
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occurred, how it occurred and what is needed to prevent it from happening again. >> julie: the ntsb has a team of 16 investigators on the scene of monday's deadly california boat fire. and a key question they will try to answer will be why no one below deck was able to escape. marie napoli is a trial attorney with experience in maritime law and joins me on set. we know the fire was fast spreading. forensics teams have concluded two reasons why the fire spread so quickly. nonetheless the crew members escaped and passengers didn't stand a chance. do you see many lawsuits? >> i see many lawsuits coming down the pike on this one. i think the passengers and the crew have lawsuits against not only the boat, but the boat owners and anyone else that was
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involved in causing this catastrophe from happening. >> julie: interesting that you mention the crew members potentially will be suing. is it possible that the passengers' families will try to serve crew members for perhaps not reacting and diving off the boat? >> if they were involved and negligent in their conduct, yes. my understanding is that they jumped off the boat because there was fire at both egresss to the lower deck and there was no way of saving those people so they jumped off the boat to save their own lives. so i don't think that there is going to be much of a lawsuit there unless they did something to where they placed the oxygen tanks that caused them to explode. there are a number of things they could have done negligently that would bring liability against them and also the boat owner. >> julie: the investigation is still in the very early stages. coast guard hasn't really clarified whether there was an explosion.
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we know this fire engulfed and turned into a raging inferno within seconds. the boat recently passed inspection and was up to code. does it make it harder to sue the owner? >> not really. two ways to sue them under common law negligence, duty, breach of duty and damages. and then there is a statutory negligence where people violate those statutes. you have to remember that was in february that they found everything up to code. they required smoke detectors in the bunk room, fire suppressant systems in the engine room. fire extinguishers throughout and the two forms of egress. they said in february it was all in check. a lot happens in that time period and were those ways of egress actually open or were they blocked in some manner other than the fire? >> julie: i want to highlight the fact where this fire
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happened is a huge bonus, i guess, to those who are going to be suing. under maritime law wrongful death would be much different and harder to press if it happened three miles from shore. this happened 20 yards from shore. not good for the boat owner. >> it's not going to be good for the boat owner in that there are certain losses that you can't get if you were three miles offshore, the laws would be different. basically if you're within the three-mile zone, three nautical mile zone you can get all your damages. >> julie: wrongful death being among them. >> i'm sure the boat owners have a boat like that there is insurance that will be picking up on this. >> julie: you don't think any charges can be brought here. we were talking lawsuit, but charges? >> at this point it is way too early to tell. i don't think so. it had a very good -- the boat had a very good reputation for safety standards. if there was anything
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substandard it was immediately fixed. they're just a very good reputation in the industry. certain things that may change, certain codes because those beds were so close together, they were three on top of each other. they had numerous people in a very small place even if it wasn't a fire evacuating would be very difficult. >> julie: thank you very much. we appreciate you coming on. nice meeting you. let's send it back to bill. >> bill: amazing story in california. more to be told on that. thank you very much. back live in florida now. very soon over the coming 12 to 18 hours the major focus for dorian, it will shift to the north and be on georgia, south carolina, north carolina. north carolina was hit by florence in the last year and wilmington became this bathtub surrounded by floodwaters for hundreds of miles. is that the fate again today? we'll take you there live in a
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>> bill: minutes ape way from
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an update from the national hurricane center. in all likelihood we'll get information about what's to come next and what's next is north carolina. doug mcelway is live in wilmington where he has been waiting a few days. it is coming your way. what do you have for us now? good morning there. >> we're waiting and watching right now. we're on the outskirts of wilmington on the banks of intercoastal waterway behind me. on the other side of that is wrightsville beach, one of the many barrier islands under mandatory evacuation per the governor's orders as of yesterday. you can't get onto wrightsville bridge over the draw bridge unless you're a resident with a sticker to prove it or a caretaker or contractor. we tried to use our media passes and the police said no way, you are not going. access is very, very limited. a lot of people gathering at this marina now where a press conference will be happening at
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11:00. but as you can imagine a lot of people are upset with the early evacuation because it gave them very limited time to get their belongings or boats out of the water. you can see some of the boats making their way under the draw bridge now. there is a boat ramp on the other side. we spoke to a gentleman who told me he has taken 70 boats out over the last 48 hours or so. he charges $30 per foot to extract the boats and get them to dry land. the bridge the ender pro pry tors. what are you most afraid of? >> the surge. we can weather the wind. if we can keep the surge off of us being more than six feet keeping it out of the restaurant and all we'll be fine. if it keeps falling apart i feel pretty good about it. we've been through worse. >> i want to point out that you can see some concrete pilings
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behind me. those things rise 27 feet above high tide so those big boats that you see behind me could be safe here. the docks rise and flow with the concrete pilings. they've learned their lessons in the past and hope they don't have to experience them again. bill, back to you. >> bill: a year ago they felt it from florence, right? wilmington and eastern half of that state was submerged in water. thank you, doug mcelway live. in a moment senator thom tillis from north carolina is our guest in the moment. new information from the national hurricane center moments away as our coverage continues here. day, we put our latest technology and unrivaled network to work. the united states postal service makes more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. after we reach age 40, there's a big drop in our energy level and now you can get it back.
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love the changes a baby brings. ♪ >> bill: 11:00 here in northeastern florida. good morning. our coverage continues. i'm bill hemmer live in atlantic beachal hurricane center with new coordinates on dorian. category 2 still tracking 105 miles per hour at the core gusts of 125. one change. it is moving north/northwest at 9 miles an hour. that's an increase of precisely 1 mile-an-hour for a storm this size. not only will the bahamas be a significant story after the effects of dorian after the storm has blown out to sea but the movement of this storm. the stubbornness of dorian is something many in this country will remember for a long time.
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9 miles an hour for a storm of this size. sometimes that's considered normal. in the case of dorian she has chosen to take her sweet time for the past week and a half. good morning, i'm bill hemmer. julie, good morning to you back in new york. >> julie: good morning to you, bill. great job out there. i'm julie banderas in for sandra smith in new york. dorian a strong category 2 with winds at 105 miles per hour lashing florida's east coast and heading for georgia with a possible direct hit on the carolinas. the killer storm devastating the bahamas doing what is being described a as apocalyptic damage to two islands. now she is closing in on the southeast coast where million else are under evacuation orders. >> these things are unpredictable. it is still moving out of the bahamas and moving north/northwest. it has the possibility of gaining strength and
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reorganizing and changing its direction. and so, you know, the most important thing is follow the recommendations of the leaders in your area. >> bill: we have teams up and down the east coast. we've been here for days now and get to some of our reporters in a moment here. janice dean is watching things back in the weather center in new york city. we'll talk to her in a moment. rick leventhal is near our location. two hours ago you were in jacksonville, florida. are you still there and what are you seeing, rick? >> we're in neptune beach now, bill, where a lot of businesses shut down ahead of the storm. this restaurant closed a couple of days ago. sandbags out front and windows shut erd on the main street. not much traffic to speak of. we have police officers doing their patrols. you see a lot of the hurricane shutters have been closed. we're getting bands of heavy rain and some wind gusts topping 40 miles per hour already even though the center
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of the hurricane is 100 miles offshore and not come all the way up the coast to where we are. tropical storm force winds extend beyond that. they're predicting tropical storm force gusts at least for this section of coastline in duvall county and beyond throughout this afternoon and evening. as you mentioned this is not the big story. the big story is down in the bahamas where the abaco islands and freeport and elsewhere got slammed. grand bahama got slammed. they had category 5 and 4 winds for a couple of days. many of the homes there were completely flooded and ripped to pieces. they are talking about roughly 50% of the structures heavily damaged or destroyed. some 60,000 people in desperate need of good food and drinkable water. the way to get those supplies to those people will be the biggest challenge here. we know the coast guard has made some rescues down there and they're trying to get resources into the bahamas.
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it will be tough and they'll be a lot of people in need there for a long time, bill. again, this storm now moving up the coast and it has north carolina and south carolina in its sights next. >> bill: yeah. thank you, rick. rick leventhal in neptune beach on florida's east coast. saw a sign the other day said closed for weather on tuesday and wednesday and thursday is weather dependent. >> julie: the entire state in limbo for a week now as the slow-moving storm now inches northwest and dorian is slamming northern florida. conditions are expected to worsen today along the georgia and south carolina coast. janice dean is watching this with more. what an unpredictable storm. >> it has been very predictable over the last three days. i would say over the weekend we were watching it and had a little more of a cone of uncertainty but within the last three days we have had a good
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indication this is going to remain mostly offshore for florida. as we get into the carolinas, that's when we get a close brush with the hurricane, perhaps landfall. i want to point your attention to a tornado warning. a tornado warning storm with these hurricanes, the landfalls systems that come close to land we have the threat for isolated tornadoes. we have one for st. augustine. not only gusty winds and potential for heavy rains but weak tornadoes up and down the coastline. people need to be vigilant and listen to the weather forecast. keep your weather radio handy for the tornado reports if they come in. thursday morning. the core of the winds extend 60 miles from the center of the storm. look as we get into thursday around 9:00 p.m. the center coming very close to wilmington and that means those hurricane drk force winds
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coming on shore. the worst of the storm surge, wind and rain moving into vulnerable areas. 5 to 7 foot storm surge will do a lot of damage and we're indicating we could see a couple of potential landfalls along a coast of south carolina and north carolina. we have hurricane warnings in effect for south carolina now extending to north carolina and cape hatteras, that's new. hurricane warnings are in effect meaning we'll see the hurricane conditions in the next couple of days. the storm surge is the biggest concern. that kills more people in landfalling hurricanes or hurricanes that come close to shore. in some cases we get 5 to 8 feet of storm surge around myrtle beach and wilmington. some areas hit by florence are still out of their homes. so we have to keep a close attention. for the last three days this forecast has been pretty spot on. >> julie: unpredictability as
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far as where the storm was headed. a week ago if you told people in florida only 18,000 would be without power. >> five days ago florida was always in the cone of uncertainty. >> julie: thank you very much. toss it back to bill now. >> bill: thank you julie and janice. want to bring in senator thom tillis. what are you hearing today? >> we're trying to be best prepared for the storm. i encourage anyone along the coast or a few miles inland to heed the warnings of your local elected leaders and emergency response official efs to get out of the way of this storm. we expect water and wind, lightning, possibly tornadoes. the best thing you can do is retreat and take advantage of evacuation shelters and other facilities available in north carolina. >> bill: the thought that comes
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to my mind immediately is our experience when we were there covering hurricane florence a year ago this month. and what you don't -- what it's hard to imagine is when you are in the city of wilmington and all that water comes in you are on the high point of the bathtub and all the water surrounds you and you can't get anywhere and it goes on for hundreds of miles. senator, you remember this well also, 20 years ago this month hurricane floyd was destined for jacksonville, florida and took a northern turn and parked itself over north carolina as well. the flooding was extensive. both storms causing historic flooding in your state. i have to think that's top of mind right now for you and others in the tar heel state. >> that's exactly right. wind is dangerous but water is deadly. most of the deaths from hurricanes occur as a result of floods and the storm surge. we have a geography similar down in charleston. we have a lot of rivers
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draining into the ocean in that area. when the tides come in and we have a surge at the same time it can be devastating miles inland. it's why getting out of harm's way is the best message people can receive over the next 48 hours. >> bill: i don't know if you've had any contact with the u.s. coast guard. you've seen the images from the bahamas. is there anything you can add as a member of the u.s. senate as to how they are doing and how we will ultimately be able to help, senator? >> we've already got coast guard on the ground helping with recovery efforts. coast guard is already pre-positioned to help north carolina and south carolina. we have dorian has put a number of -- millions of people on alert. the best thing you can do for the coast guard, national guard, emergency management is get out of their way so they can be prepared for the storm's impact and then they'll be there to help you get back into your homes after it's safe to
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return. >> bill: one final comment if you don't mind, senator. i'm hearing the trucks on the beach behind me again. the one thing they want to make sure, senator, no one goes in the water. in order to prevent that to happen they have to keep people off the beach. hard to do yesterday. more than half the people stayed behind the ride out the storm. as a public official you always want to warn people to get out of the way. sometimes it's easier said than done when you are watching a radar system hour after hour and day after day and telling people to be patient and hang on. it can be hard to do when you are trying to control a lot of things that are out of your power. and mother nature. how do you counsel someone who is just weary from watching that radar for a week and a half? >> use common sense. the storm was a category 5 storm. i'll remind everybody in north
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carolina. florence and matthew were category 2 storms. we have people still out of their homes from hurricane matthew. take the storm seriously. if you had a tropical storm coming through your neighborhood and 40 to 50 mile-an-hour winds you would be concerned. this is twice or more that sort of ferocity and storm surge. please, do not discount the danger of this storm. get out of the way and don't put a first responder in the position where they have to risk their lives because you chose to wait out the storm. this is a serious storm. the best thing you can do is protect your family, protect your pets, move away from the path of the storm and then return when it is safe and sound. >> bill: thank you, senator. good luck. dorian is coming your way. the question of when and how strong. senator thom tillis thank you in charlotte, north carolina. back to julie in new york. >> julie: a new look at the devastating damage in the bahamas after dorian hit the islands has a category 5
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details about a transitional briefing? do you see why that information needed to be fed back to the f.b.i.? >> this is extraordinary. i find it terribly troubling as somebody who went through a transition, saw a president elect get to know the people who lead america's security organizations. think what james comey was doing. instead of meeting a new president elect to begin a relationship and get to know one another. he began to treat the president elect as if he were a part of a crime. witness to a crime and he sought information and why he fed it back to the team. extraordinary on top of so many other things that just show terrible, terrible judgment by james comey and his team. >> julie: the i.g. report found other motives by the f.b.i. what were they? >> well, i think the other motives that they had were to expose if they could or catch the trump people. this is where judgment comes into play. i think they got spooked.
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the f.b.i. does not do these things lightly. they saw minor level, low-level contacts between people who were ostensibly low-level parts of the trump organization with foreign officials. it spooked the hell out of the f.b.i. the worst mistake you can make is to believe the worst things about your enemy. they wanted hillary to win, they didn't want trump to win and they believed the worst things about trump including he might be a russian agent. that's what set all of this into motion. it's why they didn't do a defensive briefing for the trump campaign to fill them in on what russia was doing and it's why james comey reported it to his team of criminal investigators. that's the judgment part, julie, that i find so worrisome. if they did this so wrong to donald trump, who else did they wrong? >> julie: that's the question is who is going to investigate those who tried to wrong the whole process? the report also revealed new details about the f.b.i.'s and
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director's actions at the time including how comey and his top deputies went to great lengths to actually confront trump in that trump tower meeting in 2017. and they used unverified accusations contained in the dossier which we now know not only unverified but total scrap written by christopher steele. there was not only a motive here but they were going on wrong information and investigating the president after he had already been elected. >> that's why i said this is so extraordinary. i just find this wrong at every moral level. i understand their job is to investigate but they better have the goods if they are going to investigate a political campaign in america. i think it's so clear what happened. you saw in the emails from peter strzok. they wanted hillary. they couldn't stand trump. and that affected their judgment. and when you are the f.b.i. your judgment can't be affected like that. you are dealing with guilt and innocence and i find this
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morally and potentially legally terribly wrong. >> julie: ari fleischer, great to see you as always. thank you. we'll send it back to bill. >> bill: we're watching a lot of things down here in florida. a couple of things we bring you up to date on. north carolina the governor roy cooper will brief at 11:30, 10 minutes from now. 40 minutes fema will hold a press conference. we'll track that and bring you the latest. the national hurricane center changed the coordinates moving it 9 miles per hour to the north, northwest. more of a judge than the storm had before. we'll speak with a pastor in a moment on his way to the bahamas. we'll see what he can do there and what his mission will be as you look at the shoreline here in atlantic beach, florida, which is kicking at the moment. high tide is at 12 noon. so at high noon today you'll see the waves get even higher.
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>> going through it was terrifying. and again, i had no idea it was going to actually be to that extent. worse than anything i could have imagined. we're happy to be alive. glad my family is safe. and, you know, we can rebuild. >> bill: just to hear that voice and hear about the optimism. they're going -- they have a tough road ahead of them in the bahamas. confirmed fatalities at seven.
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you look at the ariel pictures and think how does anyone survive that? how do you live through 18 hours of category 5, category 5 hurricane-force winds and a sea that was up 10, 15, sometimes 20 feet at times? we're about to find out. steve harrigan is on the ground in nassau. we spoke to him last hour. headed for the bahamas is pastor randy crowe with me as well in florida around the daytona area with island outreach mission. when do you leave and what is your mission there, sir? >> bill, i have a cherokee six airplanes. are plans are to leave on friday or saturday. we're waiting on marsh harbor airport to open. we have a dc3 going with 7,000 pounds of relief supplies. >> bill: that's remarkable. good luck when you get off the ground, sir. you said it will be a couple days, pastor.
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what have you heard? how much information have you gotten back from what's happening there? >> it's devastated. i pastored there for 12 years until january and i retired and moved back to new smirm yeah and island we've been in the bahamas for 45 years doing stuff like this and carrying in relief supplies and pastoring churches. it is devastated, marsh harbor, hopetown where all the tourists go. it is all just decimated. >> bill: seven fatalities seems like a low number when you look at the devastation. i think you would agree with that? >> i do. bill, i'm afraid that number is going to go up. there was a haitian village in marsh harbor that had thousands in it. not all of them would have been registered. my estimation is that death toll will go up substantially in the next few weeks. >> bill: let's hope not.
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we'll just stick with the number that we have for the moment. we'll see whether or not that number changes and our prayers it does not. are you in contact with the u.s. coast guard at all knowing you're flying a plane in there? >> no. we just file with the faa. samaritan's purse is also waiting on the airport to open. we work with them. we all work -- we're better together, bill. >> bill: i understand that. randy crowe, thank you, sir. good luck getting there and our best to all the people you can help. you bet. pastor, thank you. randy crowe there by skype there around daytona beach. having a hard time hearing the end of that. my apologies to the viewers at
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home. take the other camera, guys, if you can. i want to show the surf. for anyone with an appreciation for the ocean it will be high tide in 35 minutes. if you can see the way the waves are hitting here in atlantic beach, it is a rare sight. unfortunately for the people who live here they've seen it three times in four years and again it is happening today. that's from atlantic beach. julie, back to you now in new york. >> julie: a father caught up in a college admissions scandal claims he has proof of a university-wide pay to play program. the new emails are emerging. we'll tell you about them. the biden campaign saying he doesn't need iowa to win the nomination. is this another unforced error for the democratic frontrunner? bret baier joins us next. >> they'll look for a candidate who wants to win iowa, who fights to win iowa and that ain't biden.
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>> julie: meanwhile on the 2020 campaign trail the biden campaign is down playing the very first contest in the presidential race. here is the headline. biden campaign says iowa is not a must-win state. that's coming as the latest clear politics data shows biden eight points ahead of elizabeth warren. let's bring in bret baier to try to break this one down. were you scratching your head at all when the biden campaign comes out and says iowa is not a must-win state? >> i was, julie. good morning. i tell you, if you're the frontrunner you are expected to win every place. when you start saying in september that it's not necessary for you to win iowa and you don't have to win it, that's not exactly the best message out there. i think that spells a little bit of trouble. obviously biden plays well in a place like south carolina and
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the african-american voters there and positions well right there. but if he loses and loses big in iowa and new hampshire, it's tough to see how he bounces back in south carolina. there was a candidate in recent political history who talked about that one state salvation kind of solution and that was rudy giuliani who said he would win florida. the problem is by the time you get there it could be too late. >> julie: how pivotal is iowa's role? >> in reality he has to play well there just to be in the top. he could lose. they are accurate, they could lose iowa and still bounce back and be the candidate that everyone chooses. but what happens is inhe have tab built is one of the things he is running on.
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the ability to beat donald trump and be the best candidate. if suddenly the democratic primary voters decide you know what, he is not the best and we think there is somebody better? that inevitability thing runs out quickly. iowa is very important. sometimes it's overstated but it is very important to get this thing launched. >> julie: according to the real clear politics poll biden leads in iowa, 26%. warren and sanders with 18 and 14%. it is surprising to see a bit of a lack of confidence, if you will. but here is what mike huckabee thinks that iowans are sitting back and thinking and feeling about the biden camp's comments. >> here is the fact. if you tell the people of iowa very politically savvy and very politically in tune that you probably won't win there, that is you won't work that hard there, you won't win there. biden might as well quick going to iowa, go to new hampshire,
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south carolina and skip it all together. he just toasted his own buns. >> julie: just toasted his own buns. >> as only governor huckabee can say. candidates have skipped iowa and gone on to win and become president. however, it usually in recent history it is a pivotal state. one dynamic i want to mention quickly, bernie sanders going after joe biden on the story about the war story and pinning the medal on the army specialist, the army soldier. bernie sanders doing an assault saying details do matter. details matter in your history and all the things that you've supported in the past that are against where the democratic primary voters and caucus goers are today is a pivotal point and will lead up to this debate in houston which may be fiery between somebody like bernie
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sanders, elizabeth warren and joe biden. >> julie: the gaffes and the facts could bite him in the end. there has been speculation about biden's gaffes. misremembering, pinning that medal on a soldier. the parkland and sandy hook shootings among them. here is brit hume who believes they are more than simple mistakes. listen. >> the fact that he misremembered that is not a gaffe, that's the kind of memory problems that people his age and indeed my age have all the time. and i think that the thing that may catch up with biden over time even among democrats who would otherwise be for him is the feeling that senility is taking over. >> julie: do you think democrats are worried? >> there is anxiousness in the
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democratic circles about joe biden and his frontrunner status. it is a weak frontrunner status. he definitely in the polls has leads but in performing and when he talks about stories, when he forgets the states where he forgets whether he was vice president or senator at the time of some trip overseas or talking to kids school shooting. those are big things, not small remembrances. if you make your campaign going against president trump for his lack of truth telling as democrats do pretty much every day, you are going to be in a weaker position with someone who has his own problems telling stories. so i think brit is on the right track there. the question is who is the young candidate who is going to take that rein? >> julie: we'll watch you tonight special report. meanwhile emails filed in federal court reveal new information in the college admissions scandal.
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they reportedly show usc officials flagged perspective students whose wealthy parents have donated or expected to donate to the school. >> julie: the miami developer is among 51 people charged by the feds in the college admissions scandal. he is accused of paying $50,000 to the southern california to have his daughter admitted as a fake crew recruit. the attorney said he made a donation to a university that prioritized donations over test scores. they filed efrjs thails that they say prove it. they flagged special interests students whose parents had high-paying or high-profile jobs. one freshman with an unremarkable 2.88 gpa has a died who is a well-known ortho surgeon. another highlighted because their father owns a major
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league baseball team. others were highlighted for donation potential. $1 million pledge was written next to one student's name. another had $15 million next to their name. an email exchange advocating for a particular students because their family has a $1 to $5 million donor potential. when the donation seems like it won't be coming an official responds if this isn't working out the way you planned i can have admissions pull the approval. usc says they previously disclosed like most private universities we allow many departments including athletics to mark certain applicants with a so-called special interest tag. the defendant is demanding the court force usc to turn over documents that accused parents were playing by the rules established by the university. julie. >> julie: thank you very much. we'll toss it out to bill now.
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>> bill: thank you. in a moment we see high tide. the surf is kicking up at the moment. dorian continues to track offshore. parallels the coast of florida 100 miles out to sea. a lot of thankful people to see that image. in georgia, north carolina and in south carolina, they are waiting for dorian next. the mayor of myrtle beach is my guest in a moment as our coverage continues right after this.
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>> storm surge on top of already higher than usual tides that are forecast are expected to be -- resulting from 6 to 10 inches of rainfall. if you are in the evacuation zones in the eight counties mentioned earlier along the coast, the time to leave is now. >> bill: the governor of south carolina with a message a short time ago for the folks in the
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palmetto state. watching the surf kick up behind us there is a reason to say stay out of the water. in all likelihood with a surf that large and pull that strong. once that tide shifts from high tide going to low tide the rip currents will take you right under. the flags are set up, up and down the coast to warn potential swimmers to stay away. in south carolina and myrtle beach the mayor is here. what is your message to the folks waiting this one out and hoping? >> good morning, bill. the one message i would like for people to know is that the city of myrtle beach is prepared. our departments have done a tremendous job getting ready for this storm. but we need residents and those who still may be in town visiting to take these warnings seriously and to also be prepared. >> bill: the tourist business is still booming then the week
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after labor day you're saying. >> we feel that everybody pay close attention to the governor's evacuation and we had over 100,000 people visiting the myrtle beach area during the labor day weekend. we believe most of those have already evacuated but there are still some that have not taken things as seriously as we hoped they would. >> bill: we have asked a lot of people this same question about being weary from the storm waiting and watching for so many days. i'm certain that's the same for you. but now you are in the crosshairs so to speak. how do you manage that knowing that you are dealing with florence about a year ago and you got off pretty easy after florence, mayor? >> we certainly did in myrtle beach. florence was the flooding issues that were around us and what kept people from getting to us. with florence we learned a
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great lesson and thanks to the vision of our governor henry mcmaster he instituted the south carolina governor's flood commission and we've been working trying to find some resolutions and doing research to help address the issues that we face, especially with the flooding and the coastal storm surges. >> bill: what do you make of just living on the ocean yourself and managing that town and just making observances of this storm, the way it was so stationary in the bahamas and the devastation from the helicopter shot. what do you think about this storm? dorian waited so long to make a decision as to where the storm was headed. for so many i think it's been a bit maddening. what do you think of that? >> it certainly is tiring to watch something like this for
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so long and scary when you see the effects that it is having, the impact in other areas such as the bahamas. because you wonder is that going to be you. but all we can do is prepare and we are prepared and just wait. this has given us time to actually make sure that we have are prepared and to help our residents do so as well. so right now we are in the final stages of waiting and whatever dorian brings we will be ready. >> bill: good luck, mayor. i'm looking at the map. i see the number 2 sitting over myrtle beach, south carolina. my best to you and let's hope for the best. thank you for your time today. >> thank you, bill. >> bill: back to julie with more. >> julie: families and friends of those killed in the deadly dive boat fire are mourning the loss of their loved ones as dive teams recover more bodies
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>> julie: fox news alert. search teams have now recovered remains of 33 out of the 34 victims. deadly dive boat fire after the flames broke out labor day engulfing the vessel. only five people got out alive. they were crew members. let's bring in mike fitzgerald from the california scuba center. you are a former police detective and you've been all the boats in that dive company. appreciate your inside knowledge. thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you. >> julie: as the owner of the california scuba center and
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certified diving instructor yourself what do you believe could have gone wrong here? >> that's the hard part right now. we don't know what happened. that's a question that i think is the ultimate goal of the investigation is to find the answer to that. you can speculate all kinds of different things but until we get the investigation done i don't know we can actually find out the truth behind it. there are a lot of different gases on board. you have the diesel fuel, propane, oxygen cylinders, nitrox and compressors. a lot of things could play a role in that. i don't want to try to speculate because i don't think it's fair. i think it's best to wait for the investigation to come out and see what it points at. >> julie: you are absolutely right. the investigation is in the very early stages. it hasn't revealed exactly how the fire started but two things could have turned the ship into a raging inferno according to one forensic expert. possible added oxygen was being
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used for the divers' air tanks and the wooden hull could contribute to the fact the fire spread quickly. maybe you could get us in the mind of what the divers' tanks most concerns you. >> basically on the divers' tanks they'll be regular air, air we breathe right now in the surface for breathing 20.9 or 21% oxygen in the standard air mix. compressed air in that cylinder. however, many divers because it changes your profile they use nitrox, more of an enriched oxygen mixture. so most dive boats, most dives in recreational aspects use 32% nitrox. you change it from 21% to 32%. it does enrich the oxygen in
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the tank slightly. but i think they don't have on that boat there if i recall correctly, they don't have an oxygen cylinder which is one of the ways we fill nitrox tank system. i don't believe they had that. i think they had a nitrox membrane system that scrubbed the air to create a more enriched oxygen in there. and in that case the storage tanks would be storing 32% oxygen or nitrox and not pure oxygen. >> julie: we need to wait for facts to come out. you believe people are too quick to blame the crew for the passengers trapped down there. let's wait until all the facts come out and pray for the victims' families. thank you for talking to us. >> bill: getting word from the white house john roberts reporting the president right now in the oval office getting briefed on the latest of hurricane dorian. we'll get you live to the white house and bring you an update
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of moments as well at noon eastern time from atlanta, georgia >> we're also continuing to watch the devastation in the bahamas. they got slammed with the strongest storm ever category 5, 185 mile-an-hour winds. people are in desperate need of help. supplies are finally on their way. we also have steve harrigan who finally touched down in nassau, bahamas today and bringing us a lot more reports on the devastation there. >> and that devastation is really a stunner. i don't know where you were yesterday afternoon when the first video came in. really takes your breath away when you see the amount of destruction that has been left over. that pastor will try to get in friday or saturday. my best to him and his mission bringing supplies to try to help people as much as they can. i think the u.s. coast guard is likely the best bet for a lot of people there in the bahamas
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now, julie. >> hopefully getting people out. some towns are completely wiped out. let's hope everybody can get to higher ground and soon. great job. i'll see you on friday. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: fox news alert right now. >> melissa: new reports that hurricane dor hearing these deaths occurred while prepping for the powerful storm. all this as dorian is now making its way up the southeastern coast after leaving a path of destruction in the bahamas. really tragic there. the images coming out of paradise just devastating. entire towns wiped out. the land


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