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i remember feeling scared that there would be more attacks. there weren't any more attacks. >> dana: we are great to have these remembrances today. thank you. thank you for joining us. i'll see you on "the five." here is shep. >> shepard: flavored e-cigarette pods apparently are about to be banned. concerns about deaths and illnesses possibly related to vaping have reached the white house. the first lady is now championing the cause, citing concerns for her own son's health. now president trump meeting with the top officials about this throughout the day. they say they are finalizing a plan to ban the sale of all e-cigarettes that are flavored with anything other than tobacco. here is a map. federal health officials say they're looking into some 450 cases of possibly vape-related sicknesses and deaths. many involving young people who were otherwise healthy. the cases reported in 33 states so far and half a dozen deaths
confirmed in this date on this map that are listed in red. doctors say some patients needed breathing machines. antibiotics didn't work. it's not clear whether steroids help. health officials say they are not completely sure what's causing it. some say it could be due to a chemical found in thc, the compound in marijuana that gets people high. doctors say they are also seen cases related to nicotine vape. the feds have said that people should stop vaping for now while they investigate. health officials in new york for instance are focusing on vitamin e which supply are used to dilute black-market vape oils. vitamin e is safe to use on your skin, that's confirmed, but doctors say inhaling it can actually cause pneumonia. the american vaping association which essentially lobbies for or protects the vaping industry, argued that its products can actually help people quit smoking traditional cigarettes and that a ban would do more
harm than good. in a statement that agency writes "in the history of the united states probation has never worked. it didn't work with alcohol. it hasn't worked with marijuana. it won't work with e-cigarette. a flavor ban will only lead to the creation of yet another multibillion-dollar black-market that will operate with zero safety controls. for more reaction in the moment from the head of a technology association. first chief white house correspondent john roberts reporting live from the white house and it seems like with the first lady gets involved, things were all. >> things happen quickly, that tweet was put out on monday and then we get the announcement from the president that vaping industry as you can imagine imposes this idea of banning flavored tobacco other than tobacco flavors, doesn't -- does support a measure of mitch mcconnell is looking at the would raise the age for buying cigarettes and other e-cigarette technologies from 18 to 21. thinking you can still allow
people who are 21 years of age to have these flavored vaping products. the white house believes that its bubblegum and candy flavors that really are an attraction for young people, and that's why the centers were d's disease control found there's an epidemic of vaping by young people. the main goal breaking the cycle about lifelong nicotine addiction but the president referencing the illnesses in the deaths that appear to be related to vaping. >> people are dying from vaping, so are looking at a very closely and if nothing else, it's a conference that's going to let people know about it because people are going to watch we are saying, and parents are going to be a lot tougher with respect to their children. a lot of people think vaping is wonderful. it's great. it's really not wonderful. that's one thing i think you can say definitely. it's not a wonderful thing. >> the obama administration allowed these specialty flavored vaping products on the market as
a way to move people who were addicted to cigarettes off of combustible tobacco, as it's known. secretary of health and human services alex azar said those products may be allowed back on the market but only with fda approval. he said if he picks up any signs that young people are moving from these flavored tobaccos to regular tobacco flavored vaping products or that these e-cigarette companies or in any way trying to market tobacco flavored products young people, he can take enforcement action against them as well. the e-cigarette industry on notice here. the white house and does not want those products marketed to children and is willing to take pretty significant actions to keep that from happening. shep. >> shepard: more on this in a moment but the president spoke on a number of topics today, one of them was the leading of the white house by john bolton. >> the president said we had a pretty good relationship over
the years and that he liked them and that over the 17 months he worked at the white house but that bolton just kind of had too many disagreements with too many people that the president thought were really important to his administration and it was time for them to leave. the president also pointed to a bolton said ahead of the singapore summit with kim jong un where he said he sort of saw a denuclearization of the korean peninsula the same way as the libyan model. that nearly derailed the talks and it took the president a lot of cajoling to get kim jong un to singapore. here's what the president said a short time ago in the oval office. speaking we were set back very badly when john bolton talked about the libyan model, and he made a mistake. as soon as he mentioned that, the libyan model, what a disaster. take a look at what happened to qaddafi with the libya model unease using that to make a deal with north korea? i don't blame kim jong un for what he said after that.
he wanted nothing to do with john bolton. that's not a question of being tough. it's a question of being not smart to say something like that. >> john bolton told me directly after he made that statement that he was thinking about the libyan model of 2002 where the bush administration, and he was in charge of nuclear proliferation at the state department, wrapped up libya's nuclear program and shifted to tennessee. he said he was not talking about the libyan model where a mob dragged libyan leader muammar qaddafi out of a drainage pipe in 2011 and killed him on the streets of libya. that's not what he was talking about at all. the president said he has five people he's considering to replace john bolton and some of the front runners, both associated with the state department. one is brian hook, u.s. representative for iran and a senior policy advisor. the secretary of state mike pompeo. he came in under tillerson but paint pompeo has grown to like him.
jared kushner likes him as well. the other top choice, stephen biegun, the u.s. special representative for north korea, but like stephen biegun was potentially going to get tapped to be the new u.s. ambassador to russia but he said he didn't want that job. he wants to remain on north korea. he was at odds with john bolton over the approach to kim jong un. stephen biegun thought using a program of carrots could help bring them towards denuclearization and john bolton wanted to use the stick. >> john roberts, thank you. back to the president's comments and apparent action pending on vaping, let's turn to tony, executive director of the vapor technology association. tony, thanks. >> thank you. >> shepard: is vaping safe? >> vaping, we know from scientists, is that vaping is safer than smoking cigarettes. >> shepard: no, it isn't. actually that's not true. because i have a google machine and access to the research,
which is worse, smoking or vaping? e-cigarette vapor may not result in an obvious mall or the traditional smoke cigarettes, hasn't negative impact on air quality, especially when vaping indoors. no long-term studies to back up claims that vapor from e-cigarette is less harmful than conventional smoke. why do you push that? >> that's what public health england, the royal college of physicians. >> shepard: we don't live in england. >> american cancer society says e-cigarette fall on the risk spectrum closer to the patch and gum and laws lozenge than they do to cigarettes. >> american lung association says "e-cigarette's are not safe and can cause irreversible lung damage and lung disease." that's what they said. >> that's what the lung association says. the cancer society says something different. >> shepard: can i get cancer from vaping or no? >> we don't know that. >> shepard: no, no, that's not
true. here's the truth on cancer-causing. vaping pumps cancer-causing substances into lungs. e-cigarette have gained popularity as a safer and increasing the more fashionable triggers to traditional secrets but experts warn vaping causes e-cigarette users to inhale dangerous quantities of cancer-causing substances. that's right, isn't it? is it right or not? >> we don't know if that's right. >> shepard: we actually do know. we know nicotine -- we do know that. here's the thing, the reason i'm trying to get answers is becaus, there was a substance that kills us. people didn't know, this is going to kill me, like my mom didn't know, i'm going to smoke for 50 years and then i'm going to die with bad copd because nobody told her at the beginning. it doesn't feel like you're
industry is being completely safe with us when you say we don't know. we do know. it definitely pumps carcinogens into our bodies. this is undeniable. >> you are looking at individual studies. >> shepard: oh, dear. >> you're trying to draw correlations. even the fda has looked at that significant harm reduction potential that e-cigarette's have. >> shepard: where they marketed to children or no? >> there are some e-cigarette that in the past have been marketed in inappropriate ways and that's why we in -- >> shepard: where they marketed to children? >> that's what i'm saying. that's part of the problem. >> shepard: i asked, where they marketed to children, yes or no? >> i think i said yes, in the past that was in fact happening. that's why we came out with marketing standards for the industry in 2017 and hand-delivered to commissioner gottlieb in january of 2018 and implored him to enforce on marketing standards even more than we told our industry this is what you need to do.
>> shepard: weren't the flavors marketed to kids? >> again. >> shepard: were they or not? flavors, bubblegum, the rest. even meant. weren't they for kids? >> that is not true. that's not what the science says. >> shepard: i'm talking about the idea behind it all. when you make stuff called fruity or creme brulee, are you marketing it towards adults who have smoked their whole lives and want to stop more towards children who haven't picked up the smoking habit but might be good. >> the answer is your marketing to adults, there's no question about that. >> shepard: there is a question about it, with respect. there is a great question about it. the problem is with children. we have a whole generation of kids who realized smoking is nasty and i'm not going to do it and now they are running around in schools all over the country in bathroom where the teachers can't catch them, they are
getting addicted to nicotine. do you have a problem being in an industry that addicts children to nicotine. you are. >> that's why we need to put the tools in place to help keep these products away from kids. that's what -- >> shepard: how about the tools that the president said today, banning the flavors because kids like the flavors. is that a good idea? ban them all, including mint. >> i think what you'll see is what the fda -- >> shepard: is it a good idea? >> people return to smoking. it's not a good idea. adults are relying on these flavors to quit smoking. when that happens, when they want to get away from the tobacco flavor, what effectively is going to happen is you're going to allow those people, the only flavor on the market is tobacco and that's the product sold by big tobacco and not by the 22,100,000 vaped shops around the country. what people don't realize is that -- >> shepard: people don't
realize a lot of things because the manufacturers of these products and people in your association have, someone argue, been less than completely honest with everyone. >> we have been -- >> they look clean and they look and income the kids and now a bunch of kids are addicted to vaping. it's unfortunate, isn't it? it is unfortunate that the kids have gotten addicted to nicotine, isn't it? >> i am a father. >> shepard: i feel you. >> i know at this issue is all about. there's no question we have to deal with this issue as we deal with sex, drugs, all the issues we deal with. when it comes to drugs, we tell our kids you've got to stay away from these things especially because it's the black market products. black-market thc productsiving y and that hasn't been getting the attention it needs. >> shepard: i understand. i'm out of time. >> flavored e-cigarette on the basis of thc doesn't quite cut it. >> shepard: i hear you.
changes are coming. a bunch of kids are hooked. they are going to see what they can do. nice of you to be here. i appreciated. >> thank you. [bell tolling] >> michael edward gould. >> sarah m clark. [bell tolling] >> deborah jacobs welsh, flight attendant. >> shepard: today we remember the victims and the heroes of 9/11. ahead, we will look back at that day, hear from some who lost
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a spokesperson for the va tells us the hospital acted quickly when it learned of the accusations. family members say they are heartbroken. there is more to this. laura ingle has it. >> i just spoke with the attorney who is representing some of these families who are still looking for answers. not only as to who was responsible for the deaths of their loved ones but if the allegations are true, how this could've happened in the first place. and it goes on, as we mentioned. attorney tony odell tells fox that families feel betrayed. their loved ones were placed in the medical center in clarksburg, west virginia, know where they thought they would be cared for but instead were either accidentally or purposely killed. three more families have been told by the va's office of inspector general that their relatives may have died under suspicious circumstances. one of the alleged victims picture here, and 87-year-old army veteran, died the morning after he was admitted.
his family honored his wishes to be cremated by all the information surrounding his sudden death of his chillingly similar the other cases. odell says all victims were elderly men. all were being treated on the third floor in unit 3a. the families of other army vets had their bodies exhumed when things started looking fishy. both deaths were ruled homicide by insulin injection. as the investigation which includes the fbi and va's office of inspector general goes on, a representative for the medical center continues to try to ease the nerves of other patients issuing a statement of fox which reads part "it's -- the medical center wants to reassure veterans and their families of potential misconduct they might have heard about do not involve any current employees."
meantime, president trump and former president bush who led the nation during the attacks, laying wreaths at the pentagon where 184 people died. vice president pence in shanksville p.a. honoring the 40 passengers and crew members of flight 93 who fought back against the hijackers, sacrificing their own lives. lou alvarez, retired nypd detective who spent his dying days fighting for his fellow 9/11 responders, honored with a metal in new york today. lou alvarez testified on capitol hill as he was preparing for his 69th round of chemotherapy and made a final emotional plea on this network when he was in hospice begging lawmakers to help the responders who will get cancer and other diseases in the years to come. new york governor andrew cuomo announcing this afternoon "it's my honor to posthumously present the public service medal to lou alvarez. detective alvarez was a hero who spent his last weeks of life urging congress to make the 9/11
fund permanent. he died before the law was passed. his hair was and will be inspiration forever." aside from cancer and deadly illnesses from breathing in toxic dust, some of the heroes and survivors of 9/11 will be dealing with scars you can't see. post-traumatic stress disorder and depression from witnessing the horrors of that day. the people running the 9/11 victim compensation fund were apparently quite concerned that there was a lack of mental health support for first responders and others, so they approached a group that helps military veterans who suffer ptsd. let's bring in john warden, he's the founder and chairman of no vet alone. the work that you have done for veterans is to be honored and held up and now the folks from the 9/11 compensation fund are alike, we need this sort of thing for our folks because our
folks have something like ptsd. what did they say to you? >> the issue is ptsd and the program that we run at no vet alone, it focuses on peer support, technology, functional medicine and community. those types of things are not currently covered by the victims compensation fund. you have many firefighters, first responders, rescue workers, some of which have been in my program for many, many years who are suffering from ptsd, depression, chronic pain, all due to the exposure and what they witnessed and experienced on 9/11. they are looking for help and they are looking for how to find purpose. keep themselves alive. >> shepard: i have talked to so many who remember things that i don't even want to detail anymore but the worst things that we saw that day and at least to have explained to me nothing's happened to trigger it. it just comes into my mind and then i am debilitated in a way.
they are looking for ways to figure out how to make it stop. >> yeah, we call it the attack of sudden sadness and it happens at random times and at hand haps that random moments. as a country, you can say we need to restructure the way we intervene for mental health. we are seeing tragedies happen all over the country. you don't know where the next one is coming in so you've got to be prepared. when i talk to guys like joe higgins and sean reilly and some of these guys if i work with and they talk about what they experienced and a guy like joe higgins, his dad was a firefighter. his brothers were firefighters and police officers and his brother was killed on 9/11 it comes to me and talks to me about how ptsd is real and he's tired of going to funerals for his brothers and sisters because they are killing themselves. >> shepard: if there are people in our audience and we
know there are, who are having issues like this, issues isn't the right word. of sudden sadness comes on or something happens to them because of something they have witnessed or experienced, is their website or phone number you can share that would give them a place to start? >> certainly. there is the suicide prevention lifeline but no vet alone.org. we can connect with them. the program is about building peer support and working together to find purpose. whether it is through faith, fitness, nutrition, diet. we do brain imaging scanning with a clinic so people can see exactly what's going on in their brain, look at the depression and ptsd and understand how to use technology and functional medicine to help heal their brain come heal themselves. the other thing that's great about this program is it's outside the chain of command.
if you are a first responder and you're worried about whether you come forward for mental health because of stigma or because you think it's going to jeopardize your job or career, you can come forward in this program because it safe and trusted and you're going to be amongst your peers. they can be vulnerable. they can allow themselves to be vulnerable which is one of the first step they take. you have a tremendous platform right here and everybody who's watching the show right now, if they are trying to think about how they can help these first responders get the help they need, they can go to our website. go to no vet alone.org and show their support. what they do is going to help a first responder get a brain scan or help a first responder get some kind of cbd and it's just what we need to do. these guys are putting their lives on the line for us. >> shepard: john warden. i can't thank you enough. i know many in our audience are saying the same thing. keep up the great work, and thank you so much.
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remain true today 18 years later. >> none of us will ever forget this day yet we go forward to defend freedom and all that is good and just in our world. >> so many survivors say they deal with 9/11 on a personal basis almost every day, whether it's a sound or smell or memory. it's amazing, here at the white house, there are reminders constantly. increased security in the world since 9/11. >> shepard: can't thank you enough. thank you for doing that for us. nearly two decades later, victims' families are still waiting for justice. there is a man who was confess to being the mastermind. his name is khalid sheikh mohammed. he is expected to finally face a military trial in guantanamo bay in january of 2021. k sm was the operational planner for al qaeda. he's charged with nearly 3,000 counts of murder. if a court to convict him, he
could face the death penalty. our senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano is here. it will be 20 years on. how the hell does it take 20 years to prosecute this? >> a series of unusual events. it took the supreme court three cases all of which were lost by the bush administration to decide with finality that the defendants at guantanamo bay were entitled to the same constitutional rights as they would be if they were americans in the united states. the parts of the constitution that are relevant to protect persons, not citizens. the bush administration resisted it. when that ruling came in, it meant evidence obtained by torture couldn't be used. that forced the government to reconstruct its entire case from the beginning. how are we going to present this evidence without getting out of the mouths of defendants who'd been tortured. the government anticipating that had fbi agents talk to the defendants before they were tortured before they were charged, before they had a right
to a lawyer. the fbi, the prosecutors tried to get the evidence out of the mouths of the fbi agents as to what the torture defendants post torture told them and it took the court a long time to resolve that and that still hasn't been resolved. then a rogue fbi agent answered an ad in the newspaper for a paralegal job. he was an ad for the defense team on this case. he applied for it without revealing he was an fbi agent. he got the job and he began to spy on the defense team for the government. prosecutors didn't know about it in the military people didn't know about it. he had friends in the government to whom he was feeding thisfired from its playbook what if anything it learn from him and the defendants were serious. they fired their lawyers and they got new lawyers. you can see this is consuming time. when new lawyers come in, government lawyers, defense lawyers, takes them years to examine the file and be ready to go. now the court is confronted with
if evidence was tainted by torture, that is the confessions were made under torture but they discussed the confessions afterward, can the discussions be revealed to the jury? all of this is because, in my view, a fundamental mistake made by the bush and administration day one which was to charge these people cuba. the bush administration thought the constitution wouldn't apply and due process didn't apply and torture could be used. you didn't have to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and you didn't have to have a unanimous jury in the best thing in the world, they thought, federal judges wouldn't get involved. they are were so wrong. >> shepard: how could they think -- those things are so fundamental to who we are. how could they ever think it's okay for the united states of america to torture people? it is not okay. it's not legal.
they screwed it all up. >> you and i separately act together and talked about it for 20 years. >> shepard: how do you get out of it? justice delayed is justice denied in these victims are denied justice. >> we have a clause in the constitution that guarantees a speedy trial. we have never in our history had a child 20 years after the crime where the delay was caused by the government, not by the defendants. if they've been tried in lower manhattan, if they have been charged by a grand jury, they would be in a super max prison 15 years ago. >> shepard: thank you. house democrats are about to take a big step toward impeaching president trump, at least where the possibility thereof. impeachment proceedings are beginning. we will get a live report from capitol hill next but first the outspoken oil tycoon and corporate raider t boone pickens has died. spokesman said he died of natural causes. he started his own oil company
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>> shepard: that was this morning. a majority of democrats in the house now support impeaching the president. house speaker nancy pelosi urging caution. congressman nadler a couple days ago said "we will not allow president trump's continued obstruction to stop us from delivering the truth to the american people." chad pergram is our senior producer on capitol hill. >> this resolution tomorrow and i will read you exactly what it does "to determine whether to recommend articles of impeachment." there seems to be a lot of confusion about that on capitol hill. house majority leader steny hoyer was asked earlier today, is this an impeachment inquiry in his mind and he delivered an emphatic no but a couple hours later, his office put out a statement saying no. we see what they are doing. it's an impeachment inquiry. jerry nadler, chair of the judiciary committee says "what we're doing is very clear. it's been very clear, and it continues to be very clear." doug collins, top republican on
the committee, republican from georgia, says it isn't an impeachment inquiry and you can only initiate an impeachment inquiry with a full vote by the house of representatives. >> shepard: how is it going to affect congress funding the government? >> hubler worried about this inflaming president trump. he watches tv a lot and you can see a scenario where he seeing all this impeachment talk on television and he gets worried and starts to say i'm not going to work with democrats. i asked house majority leader steny hoyer that question. i said does the unpredictably by the president concern you and he says "if -- it damn well does." people are walking on tender hooks and democrats are concerned about how it affects their vulnerable freshmen democrats. >> shepard: it all starts tomorrow? >> yes. we will see what happens after that. president trump speech tomorrow night in baltimore. >> shepard: chad pergram, thank you. a man in tennessee is defending his decision to turn off the
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>> shepard: a man mating with judges after he turned off ankle monitors for 20 accused criminals including a suspected killer. the device is inactive for more than seven hours. who is this guy, he runs a private monitoring company in tennessee. he told our local fox nation suspects are supposed to pay for their own ankle monitors so when a group of accused criminals fell behind in their payments, he turned them off. there's more to this. trace gallagher has it. >> the reason the offenders and davison county have to pay for their own ankle monitors is because the county opted out of the program to keep the monitors running.
offenders have to pay $3.33 a day. the people who had their monitors turned off each owed about $600. the man who owns the company says it was a gut wrenching decision to turn the device is off but he's a private company and enough is enough and he cannot afford to absorb $12,000 in lost revenue. legal experts say it could have cost him a whole lot more. watch. >> the owner of the company could get himself sued if someone who was supposed to be monitored by a judge's order got out and committed another crime and there was a victim, especially. >> turns out during the offenders 27 hours of electronic freedom, no crimes were committed although they don't really know exactly where those suspects were during that time and the judge, as he said, not happy. >> shepard: is the truth that they monitors aren't watch that closely anyway? >> according to the national fox affiliate, they looked at a
tennessee audit conducted in 2012 that examined 68 offenders wearing these gps monitors in over a ten month period, those 60 people generated more than 11,000 alerts but the state board of probation and parole, the ones in charge of keeping track of all the monitors, they failed to clear or a confirmed 80% of those 11,000 alerts, a dismal record. the department responded by saying that officers in charge of tracking were simply overwhelmed because they handle too many offenders. we couldn't find any more recent audits but the tennessee department of correction says things are getting more efficient. not really sure exactly what that means. >> shepard: thank you so much. take a look at the big board. that number right there, 27119, the all-time record high is
27359.16. another day like this and we are in record territory. right? in fact, cavuto knows that and literally everything else. it's his turn. see you tomorrow. >> neil: our alert today, markets notwithstanding, remembering the event that shook america 18 years ago. welcome, everybody. i'm neil cavuto. it's a different lower manhattan day, just as we are a very different country and we are all over today, as we should be. remembering a nation that's bounced back and markets that have bounced back too. both weren't supposed to happen. both are remarkable stories and that's why we are leading with the story. it's that big head important. we are at ground zero remembering those who lost their lives. we are remembering how investments wer