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sunday, national double cheeseburger day as well as wife appreciation day. something for everybody tomorrow. [laughter] don't miss it. ed: check it out. neil: he's got it, he's read it, now what the heck is he going to do with it? inquiring minds want to know. attorney general william barr has a draft report on how a team of investigators launched that probe of team trump. let's say senator john kennedy is curious, and let's just say that iowa senator joni ernst is very worried about this trade war with china and how it is walloping farmers in her state. but signs that maybe, just maybe, not for long. the progress you are not hearing that already has investors jumping. and all this even as the impeachment wagons are circling. what is happening in the house, democrats worried this push to kick donald trump out of his is going to cost them the white
house. is democratic congressman emmanuel cleaver one of them? we'll ask him. and what is that line that ronald reagan used to rip bureaucrats for? >> the nine most terrifying words in the english language are i'm from the government, and i'm here to help. neil: don't look now, but the government is here to help again. it's all about protecting us, but do they risk suffocating us? both parties in we're on it and on them, so let's get to it. ♪ ♪ neil: welcome, everybody, i'm neil cavuto. happy saturday. the government back with a vengeance, forget about reining it n. this week we learned that the deaf set is already over a -- deficit is will over a trillion bucks, elizabeth warren is leading the democratic candidates with another plan that continues this piling on. to a woman named bolton,
deirdre, to run through all the red. deirdre: well, you just mentioned that deficit, right, topping $1 trillion for the first time in seven years. also we have to note the year's not even finished yet, so separately we are going to see what this does to voters and their appetite for spending. want to highlight a few of the programs specifically from senator warren. she is talk about expanding social security, and who's going to pay for it? the top tier percent p. we're going to expand social security, her vision is to give $200 per month for roughly 64 million recipients. she says her proposal will pull close to five million seniors out of poverty. she says that includes low income, females, disabled, minorities, former government workers that have been shortchanged by the existing structure of the program. in her press release, she says we need to get our priorities straight, we should be increasing social security benefits, asking the richest
americans to contribute their fair share to the program. separately, she says her plan would also extend solvency of the underfunded social security trust fund by 19 years. now, her other programs also include some other costly factors, medicare for all, for example, mostly free college. when you add all of this up, treasury secretary steve mnuchin says it could all all bring our economy down. >> i think if you listen to the elizabeth warn plan, you know -- warren plan, it is 100% recession if not worse. deirdre: so clearly not a fan, but senator warren is rising in the polls. her ideas are resonating with a lot of voters and, neil, you know this from our own proprietary the research here, health care a number one topic for any kind of voter, democrat, republic or independent. neil: deer drink, thank you very much. when it comes to spending, as deirdre pointed out, we've broken all records for deficit,
one more month to go of this fiscal year. now the question to ask is that mean more money coming out of your wallet? trump 2020 advisory member jenna ellis reeves join us, as well as michael hop kips. finish mike, let me begin with you and your sense that it's always good to throw out a -- [inaudible] you help a lot of people, stick it to the rich, send a message you're not going to pay for it, someone else is. >> yeah. within the democratic primary i think there's this kind of race to see who can offer the biggest policy proposals. but also, you knowing republicans have -- it's gone up insanely high -- neil: that's not an excuse to just double down. >> true, but it's a little disingenerallous for republicans to go after warren saying her plans are too expensive. neil: what do you think of that? >> well, i think that it is
definitely -- [laughter] of warren to come in and basically just completely negate capitalism and say, okay, we're going to make sure that the top 2% are paying for this socialist policy. and i don't think that's actually resonating with voters. what's resonating -- neil: well, alluding to have them pay for the increased benefits for lower pay social security. >> right. why isn't anyone coming out and saying, okay, instead of taking from the rich and giving this away and making everyone supposedly equal, why not have a policy to say we're going to incentivize you to then rise to that level? why are we putting a cap on the prosperity of america? that's what the democrats are coming out with. they're basically saying that the income of america is capped now, and so we are just going to have to divide all of the access that america currently has and make everyone equal. what resonates is the good economy, the low unemployment that is under the trump administration -- neil: but you're both young
people, all right? i'm just going to get right under, and my social security's okay. yours, i wonder if you'll even have it. so i'm just wondering where's the discipline to address that the? where's the creativity when it comes to addressing this? >> i think we do have to extend the solvency of social security, but when it comes to elizabeth warren's plan, she's actually taken the man out of donald trump's playbook. i think she's going towards a populist, kind of playing towards the anger within both democrats and republicans and saying you haven't gotten to appreciate all of the things that the american economy -- neil: why not step back to say maybe we can raise the retirement age, maybe we can grandfather this in? those are practical solutions that have come up in the past that both parties ignore, and they're afraid to touch it because it's like the third rail, right? >> i think for millennials, which both michael and i are -- neil: that's your problem. >> absolutely, but that's why we're not relying on government
and putting all our eggs in the -- neil: you just make the assumption about what elizabeth warren wanted to do, you're not going to get social security. >> i don't think we can bank on that, literally. and i think that for millennials, we are enterprising. we're making sure to take advantage. michael just started his own firm, right? you're making sure -- neil: with elizabeth warren, he says i've got to do it on my own. >> exactly. government isn't a revenue-generating institution -- neil: [inaudible] >> what can i say? >> you know, to the conservative party. neil: you're not -- let's not go there. >> i think juan is starting the negotiations during the primary. you know, you don't give up everything during the primary. you kind of shift during the general and get towards the middle. neil: do you ever wish that we were half as creative coming up with ways to control spending as we are to mic taxes? >> absolutely -- to hike taxes. >> absolutely. neil: i didn't think answer that. [laughter] >> i think it's a give and take, and right now we've got to
figure out what the give is and what the take is. neil: i just see a lot of taking. >> yeah. it should not be that it comes occupant of our pocket, and that is something that president trump has definitely resonated with the voters -- neil: he's the one that spent the record deficit. >> no, but a lot of people got more back in their tax return and, again -- neil: both parties have to get serious about it. >> absolutely. but that's more republicans and that's more kind of the old guard. we're seeing, actually, a more capitalist policy from the president. neil: hope springs eternal. guys, sorry about your social security. [laughter] in the meantime, markets finish the week up on news that china could be loosening up some of the tariffs that would have hit my next guest's home state really hard. republican senator joni ernst joins us from the beautiful state of iowa. senator, very good to have you. >> thank you, neil. neil: we just got the first hints this week, and our hopes have been lifted inside past with promising signs.
the chinese willing to relieve some tariffs, the president pushing back tariffs of his own a another couple of weeks, to mid october. what do you think? is. >> i do think that we are approaching a deal, but we want a good deal as well, one that will benefit iowa. farmers and manufacturers and the country as a whole. and i do think with the chinese economy teetering and the fact that they have african swine fever, there are so many contributing factors which could take us very well towards a good deal. and i'm very encouraged about the signs we're seeing right now. neil: what are your farmers saying, senator? the president has always said he's giving them credits to make up for the losses. in fact, i think he has said to the effect that he has made them whole in their losses, but that's not the case. >> that is not the case, and while they do appreciate the additional dollars that are coming in from those tariffs, it
doesn't make the farmer whole, it doesn't make the manufacturer whole at all. but what they do want is a good deal with china, and they support the president in that effort. because the chinese have treated our american farmers so poorly for so very, very long, but they want a good deal. and i've said this many times over, farmers want trade, not aid. neil: you know, senator, the president has hinted of being open to an interim deal. i think the white house has refuted that, so i don't know what the real skinny is on this, but that we would consider the low hanging fruit kind of deal where you get more aid to farmers, your state and others. but some of the thornier issues like intellectual property and all that would be addressed down the road. in other words, get the easy stuff done now, the more difficult stuff done later. are you open to that? >> well, i am open to whatever will move us forward with china. in the end, we do have to handle what we see in farm country and
in manufacturing, but also we do have to think about intellectual property theft, forced technology transfers and other bad behavior by the chinese. so whatever allows us to move forward, keep the chinese at the table is going to be very important. in the end, we don't want to lose china that as a trading partner. we certainly hope to get to that point. but in the meantime, folks are saying let's make it right, let's force the chinese to negotiate, and we do want to see american ingenuity coming out on top. and that means a good deal with china. neil: you know, senator, this was the week the president got rid of john bolton, his national security adviser, and a lot of people interpreted that as a sign hard-liners of foreign policy shown the door. do you think he needs to get rid of the hard-liners on this trade policy, that they need to be shown the door so the president
in your face type of a deal with china? >> well, i wouldn't say that because this is a president who, when compared to former presidents, he is the one that has actually forced the issue with china. and that has been long overdue. so i do thank the president for stepping up to the plate, renegotiating some of these trade deals. again, what i hear on the ground is, you know, farmers are feeling the pinch, but overall they want a better deal with china. and i do believe this president is going to deliver on that. neil: well, the reason i mention it, senator, is, you know, people like peter navarro who have a hard-line approach and don't blink with the chinese, they might be forcing the president into a corner when at his core he's a dealmaker, he's pretty pragmatic when it comes to this is stuff. maybe they're hurting his chances to find such a deal. >> certainly. and i would encourage the president to go with his gut too because he is a dealmaker, and we have a great deal sitting at
the table with usmca, and we hope that speaker pelosi and the house democrats will actually belly up and get that deal done. we need to see that move. is so he is a dealmaker, and while we're negotiating china, we do have other trade negotiations that we should be acting on. so i would encourage the house to step up, let's get usmca done. that provides us a little more leverage and a little bit of relief across farm country too that would allow us to stick it to china. neil: all right. thank you very much, senator. that deal crafted with mexico and canada. the leaders, including president trump, signed off on that some ten months ago, and they're still negotiating that in the house. senator, thank you very, very much. fox news alert for you, the white house is saying the son of osama bin laden was killed in a counterterrorism attack. details are sketchy, but they are coming in fast. we'll have more on that and much more after this.
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neil: all right, shortly after the 18th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, we're getting word that hamza bin laden has been taken out a few years after his father was killed. hamza bin laden wanted to follow in his father's footsteps and lead this new movement against the united states. again, we're trying to get confirmation of this and the exact time all of this happened. former delta force commander on these developments. general, i know we're hitting you with this, and it's a late-breaking development, but if true and he's dead, we do know there are at least a dozen other sons out there. i don't know their plan, the succession interests, but what do you make of it? >> yeah. well, i think that it's more of a psychological setback than an operational setback for al-qaeda. and it's also a psychological victory for the united states. remember that hamza was not the leader of al-qaeda. that's a man named al-zawahiri
who is out of the muslim brotherhood who was bin laden's number two, and he still runs al-qaeda. so what hamza's job was, at least reportedly, was to be the go between with al-qaeda and all these other like-minded terror groups like boca aha ram, al-qaeda in the arabian peninsula, al-qaeda in iraq. so i think it's a setback, but this probably happened over a year ago, so it's not a lethal blow. neil: no, i'm glad you mentioned that, because we don't know the timing of any of this. what we do know, and i've discovered a little bit through a lot of business folks that i talk to was that osama bin laden was part of the world's richest families, as you know, and that a lot of that money still percolates through the family tree, so to speak, including benefiting hamza bin laden when he was alive and his brothers and others so it's a threat in that regard. they do have the money to watch
match their threaten ping dialogue. what do you make of that and how much of a threat is this contingent of bin laden kids who are not happy with the united states and the west in general? >> well, they were an industrial construction company, a huge industrial construction company for all over the middle east. so they were billions of dollars -- there were billions of dollars that were made by this organization that bin laden's father ran, established and ranch and there is still lots of money in their coffers out there. i don't know the extent, you know, how wealthy they really are, but certainly having that kind of money was a factor in what, you know, what bin laden was doing before he was killed. and i think it's a factor today going forward that they do have a lot of money that they can put into their terrorist activities out of their own pockets. neil: you know, general, this was the week we saw john bolton fired by the president of the united states. john bolton said he resigned, i don't think the details are as important as what it could mean.
rand paul, when i talked to him earlier this week, was delighted. i want you the react to this. >> the threat of war around the world is greatly diminished with bolton off the white house. out of the white house. i think he had a naive point of view for the world that we should topple regimes everywhere and institute, you know, democratic governments, and we would make the world perfect or remake the world in our image and, frankly, it just doesn't work that way. neil: all right. what he's saying is we're better off without this guy there. what do you think, general? >> well, i think it was inevitable, neil. i would ask you, did you really think bolton was going to last there more than a year? he lasted 17 months. i think that rand paul is expressing what he has been very consistent in. he is against war anywhere, to be very honest with you, because he's a libertarian. that said, i think that, i think that bolton had some very good ideas, i think he was, he was a guy that had his time there in
the white house to influence the president, but i knew when he went into that job that he was not going to stay because he has an irascible personality, and that bumped up against the same personality in donald trump. but i also think they got at crosses-purposes on some key issues, north korea being one of them. neil: general, thank you very, very much. >> glad to be with you. neil: all right, we're getting word right now, this is coming in from the u.s. customs and border protection, saying two border patrol agents were involved in a shooting last night where agents were involved in a shooting while performing a vehicle stop. we don't know much more than that, we just know that it got out of control. the incident is under investigation. not only the fbi, the customs and border protection office looking into it and who else was involved. we'll have more after this.
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♪ ♪ neil: we are learning a little bit more about this incident that happened on the border last night. u.s. customs and border protection officials had apparently pulled over a vehicle presumably for speeding. we don't know much more than that. an incident ensued when one of the individuals in that car started firing on approaching deputies. they returned fire. one subject was pronounced dead at the scene, presumably one of the two occupants in that car. the other was injured, is expected to be okay. we're also told that one of the border protection officials was shot as well. he or she -- they're not
identifying the sex of that individual -- is expected to be okay as well. when we get more details on this, we'll, of course, or let you know. in the meantime, letting you know about actress felicity huffman. you know by now that she's going to go to jail for at least 14 days, going to pay a $30,000 fine in this college admissions scandal that's getting bigger by the moment. a lot of others are following very, very closely. lisa, good to have you. she, you know, threw herself at the mercy of the court, genuinely apolo secrettic. this is the woman that spent $15,000 to improve her daughter's s.a.t. scores, said she regretted it even after the punishment was meted out, deserves what she got, so where does this go? >> i guess it's a baseline really for future cases, right? this is felicity huffman, she's a celebrity, she paid $15,000 to amend test scores and, look, she served jail time.
that is something we have to look at because all of the other defendants in this case, all of the people that now have been indicted likely will get some form of jail time. neil: so lori loughlin has protested the argument that she did anything wrong with a half million dollars to get her, i think, two daughters into -- >> yes. neil: she's looking at a lot more time in jail. >> i would say undoubtedly lori loughlin will be facing jail time. obviously, she has paid substantially more and has asked for substantially more. we know that her daughter went to usc, took a spot not only from academia, but also from a sports athlete. so there are a lot of elements to that case, and there's no remorse, right? she's fighting this. i think in the future you might see some pressure on her, her lawyer to take a plea. neil: i was readinged today that her plea would involve at least a year, two years' jail time.
>> yeah. like i said, i don't think she can walk away unscathed on this. the amount of public outcry, the amount of privilege and entitlement, i mean, it all comes down to the fact that people want other people to be accountable, and this trickles down to mainstream america. everybody's child has to go through this process fairly, you and i are watching our children go through it, go into colleges and work hard -- neil: i told my son i'm not going to pay for the community college he picks, he's going to have to do it on his own. but do you get a sense here that this is going to drag out a while? because there are, i think, 30 some odd pending cases here as this ballooned. it's going to go on for a while. >> you know what? i think, actually, it will go the other way now that she has met -- neil: real fastsome. >> i think that now the prosecutor is going to have an easier time settling cases. i think now that we see a baseline, i think they were waiting for this after the stanford coach didn't get jail time. i think that kind of set a level
where people weren't really comfortable, but now we're seeing whether or not people like the 14 days in jail as opposed to what they were looking for, a month's time. neil: the prosecutors and judges use such benchmarks? if you're in another courthouse half a country away, do you use that as your litmus test? >> i have to use other case law in the country, especially if i'm an attorney representing my client. i use anything that benefits my client. this certainly isn't going to benefit the other clients that don't want jail time. but on the other hand, it will benefit them trying to lessen jail time by saying, look, this is the benchmark, this is what my client is guilty of, please be lenient. at least we have some baseline now. prior to this we really didn't, and i think a lot of people were thinking that everybody in this scheme was going to just skate away without having to face any significant jail time. so i think in that regard we're seeing some level of
culpability, and now i think we need to see what happens next, you know, what happens to -- nobody's really talked about all the students that didn't get who or that wait list. neil: so let me ask you this as a mom, more than as a great lawyer, a great mom. do you think this changes the way our kids and what we do to help them any way we can to get into a good school or most of the times it's just helping them with the application process and everything else, but that the stuff that used to go on with a wink and a nod, especially with wealthy people -- oh, i'll donate to the school, whatever -- do you think all that stuff stops? >> i think that that persists. i do think it's a cost benefit analysis. i mean, look, it's all illegal. you can't buy a seat in a school. people that donate a library, at least i think in somebody's mind somewhere, not particularly mine, there's a benefit. the benefit is to the school, you are giving up something -- neil: and then the kid has to
make it on his or her own, if they're a moron, they're not going to get in. >> yeah. and your kid has to know, look, this is the real world, right? there are still kids that are going to persevere. but in this case there are a classes of students that really did not get a fair shake, and i don't hold the institutions accountable, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to reach out to your top ten wait lists that didn't get usc because somebody else got it and say, hey, listen, if you still want to come here, why don't you come here. neil: good mom, good lawyer. lisa, thank you very much. good luck with the application process. >> you too. [laughter] neil: attorney general william barr is has now got that fisa report that shows how an investigation of the trump campaign began. now the question is what he does with it. senator john kennedy is very curious, after this.
neil: all right. he has it, now what is he going to do with it? i'm talking about the attorney general of the united states, bill barr, who has the inspector general, mike horowitz's, at least draft record. in other words, the report that led to the investigation of team trump and on and on we go. mark meredith at the white house with more on all of this. what do we know, mark? >> reporter: good morning. president trump is aware of these latest developments because he's been retweeting some republican house members this morning that have been talking about this, and it's
that headline that you're mentioning right now, the report that the inspector general is close to finishing his report about the chain of events that led to the investigation of the 2016 campaign for the trump campaign, specifically one individual. now, the justice department's inspector general, michael horowitz, told congress late friday that he's nearly finished with the report for viewing whether the fbi followed the law when it applied for a warrant to surveil carter page. page was investigated over concerns of russian interference in the election. some have said that the surveillance was an abuse of power. this is the letter that horowitz sent to congress late friday. he wrote, quote: we have now begun the process of finalizing our report by providing a draft of our factual findings to the department and the fbi for classification determination and marking. now, horowitz says this has been an extensive process, that they have collected over one million records for review and conducted some 100 interviews. several republican lawmakers, neil, say that they want to hear from horowitz directly about
this as well as review the report. here's what one republican senator had to say earlier this week. >> the senate judiciary committee will call mr. horowitz, and he will testify under oath about his report. we're going declassify as much as we can including the fisa warrant applications, let you read it for yourself. transparency and accountability is my goal. >> reporter: and while this report is now being reviewed, there's still no exact timeline, neil, of when it will be completely finished. that is still up in the air at this point p. neil? neil: all right. mark meredith, thank you, my friend. senate judiciary committee member is joining us right now, a very crucial fellow, you know him well, senator john kennedy from the state of louisiana. what do you want to know about what's in this? >> number one, i would ask the attorney general to work sunday. he probably does anyway. after church, read the report american people. released to the
they're entitled to know what happened. number two, if fbi agents and justice department officials have the right to their own political beliefs, but they can't act on them. if somebody in the 2016 campaign did and tried to hurt president trump or hurt secretary clinton, the american people need to know. they need to be dismissed from the justice department and fbi, and if necessary, they need to be prosecuted with great vengeance and furious anger. we need to get this behind us and restore the credibility of the fbi and the justice department. now, if somebody didn't do anything wrong, nobody did anything wrong, then the let's tell the american people. but -- and i'm interested in having the judiciary committee get into this, but first i want the american people to have a chance to read the report. neil: all right. appty mccabe, of course -- andy mccabe, of course, the
former deputy director, his lawyer is indicating that prosecutors should drop this probe because his client has not been indicted for lying to investigators. we really don't know the full details of that. do you? >> no, but i do know this, plenty of people are prosecuted by the fbi and justice for lying to an fbi agent. now, here's a case where an fbi agent lied to an fbi agent. if the justice department and the fbi are going to maintain any credibility, it seems to me that they have of to treat everybody equally under the law. and once again, if mr. mccabe did lie to an fbi agent, he should be prosecuted with great vengeance and furious anger. i mean, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. neil: so, senator, when this whole investigation started your argument has been and other republicans that it was started under specious circumstances, that the whole investigation of the president when he was
running for president and the people around him was built on a false premise, was built on a lie. do you still subscribe the that? >> -- to that? >> yes. and i hope i'm wrong, but here's my suspicion, there were a handful of men and women at justice and the fbi who acted on their political beliefs. now, some tried to hurt the president. i think some of them tried to hurt secretary clinton. mr. comey, i'm not alleging it, but he could have tried to hurt both. the american people need to know. the american people are smart enough to figure it out, but they've got to have the facts. stop the speculation and the innuendo. attorney general barr, read that report, send it back to our inspector general and let the american people see it. neil: if i can switch to the threat of russia and all the back and forth which is so intrinsic in this probe, as you know, senator, i had jim mattis here. as you know, he's promoting a book, the former defense secretary, who was saying i'm still very worried about
vladimir putin, i call him a threat -- i'm pair a are a phrasing -- they'll be involved in our 2020 campaign. what do you think of that? >> i trust russia and china and iran and north korea like i trust a jussie smollett police report. you can't trust 'em. and they're not going to stop. they're not our friends. since president trump took office, they don't love us anymore, but i think, by god, they respect us now. and we've got to remain vigilant. that doesn't mean we don't -- we shouldn't talk with them. the toughest job for a president is to deal with people who don't share your values but whose interests are important to your interests. but you've got to go into it with eyes open, wide open. neil: all right. so when other, more hard-liners -- i think john bolton was among them, he's out
of a job maybe because of this view that the president's overtures to some of these folks was a little over the top. now, of course, he's tossed over the side. does that direction, does that approach the president takes, which was at the core of the john bolton -- i can't deal with it, do you share any of that? >> well, look, i've never met mr. bolton. he -- i've listened to him, i've watched him, i've read a portion of one of his books. he has his point of view. i think he loves america. i don't know what happened in the white house. i do though this: number one, you can't, you can't leak stuff that hurts your boss, if that is indeed what happened. number two, i have great respect for mr. bolton, but presidents, any president, is entitled to surround himself with advisers of his or her choice. and those are the rules.
mr. bolton, who was not the president -- the president is the president, and he has the right to change horses. and he did. neil: he did, indeed. they work at the pleasure of the president, no matter who he is. thank you, senator, very good seeing you. >> thank you. neil: all right. democrats took a very big step this week toward advancing the impeachment investigation ball. some other democrats are worried they're doing it at the expense of some issues that are winnable for them. and because they're so impeachment-obsessed, they're going to lose this thing. is emmanuel cleaver one of them? we'll talk to him. ome, that day. i've been plotting to destroy you. sizing you up... calculating your every move. you think this is love? this is a billion years of tiger dna just ready to pounce. and if you have the wrong home insurance coverage, you could be coughing up the cash for this.
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they are among the premier presidential candidates advising the continuation of impeachment investigations, ongoing hearings into removing this president from office even before either of them or any of them get a chance to get that office. but it's caused a bit of aer is gulf, if you will --er is gulf within the democratic party because some are fearing, including nancy pelosi, that it's distracting voters who think that the party is only concerned about one thing, impeachment, when the party has a lot of good ideas on some of these other issues that they care more about. i wonder if democratic congressman emmanuel cleaver is one of them. he hails from missouri, and he's usually a calmer presence in this sort of heated political environment, and i'm always happy to have him on. good to have you. >> good to be with you. neil: what do you think of this back and forth let the hearings begin, we've got to get hopping on this, we have over 100
members who agree donald trump should be impeached, are you among them? >> i have called for an impeachment inquiry. i don't think we are at a point now where we ought to begin impeachment hearings. neil: what's the difference? >> well, the difference is the impeachment inquiry is trying to gather information, trying to pull together, you know, factual information about all of the allegations that we've heard as it relates to the election and president trump. now, the weird thing is i didn't even, i didn't get to this point. i was -- aye been one of the last people to come here, but i got here because i was angry at the president attacking elijiah cummings, a represent frif from baltimore, and then the american people who live in that community that he equated with a
vermin-infested community. now, that has nothing to do with the other things, it was bothering me that the president of the united states was verbally attacking a sitting member of congress and a city. but to go back -- neil: that's not an impeachable offense. >> it's not, that's what i'm saying, and it's not. i became angry over something that had nothing to do with it. neil: whatever your views, congressman, on the subject do you think that nancy pelosi might be right intimating that this obsession -- and she tried to tamp it down -- but that it is distracting voters and maybe ticking them off and they're thinking all this party wants to do is -- it's going to hurt you guys? what do you think? >> i think that nancy pelosi's absolutely correct. i think that it's okay to do oversight, which is what we're doing which is an impeachment inquiry. we're doing oversight. but, look, people are saying
there are a unhundred members of the democratic caucus who are supporting it, keep in mind there are a hundred more who are not. the other thing is that, look, impeachment is serious business. to do impeachment, you're overturning an election of the people of the united states. and that has to be dealt with very, very cautiously, very, very seriously and factually. so i don't think we a ought to jump out there, and i think as long as nancy pelosi is the speaker, we're not going to do it. and i spent about an hour or so yesterday, maybe two hours, with former representative elizabeth holtzman from new york, the 9th district at the time, she was on the judiciary committee involved with the impeachment of richard nixon. and the one thing that everybody's upset with is that when the articles of impeachment were drawn, they were drawn by republicans and democrats. neil: that's right.
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neil: all right, well, talk about adding insult to mother nature injury, another weather system blowing near the bahamas right now, devastate thed already but hurricane dorian. steve harrigan in the middle of all of that on what's going on now. hey, steve. >> reporter: neil, the exact spot in the bahamas where no one wanted this to happen. two weeks ago it was hurricane dorian, 185 mile per however winds, category five storm, today it's a tropical storm, tropical storm humberto. wind speeds just 40 miles per
hour but still to those damaged houses and to those people really seeking shelter, it is another blow. the real concern could be the rain, anywhere from 4-6 inches of rain, and you've got people on that island just trying to get their feet back on the ground. it's really a do it yourself project of repair, not a lot of help from the government. you've got people up on roofs with blue tarps, hammers, no electricity the, just trying to cover themselves from the rain, and a lot more is on the way. this also slows the aid flow to the islands, a lot of international aid groups trying to get food, gasoline, power to those i islands. it slows down the recovery efforts. their still going through the -- they're still going through the wreckage trying to find bodies killed by dorian. another 1300 people still missing. neil, back to you. neil: that number missing has gone down a little bit, but there are still concerns that a lot of them might never be found, right?
>> reporter: a lot of them could be out to sea and some unusual circumstances too. because of the storm, it's crushed infrastructure to actually let people know you're alive. sometimes you have to get on a plane, come to nassau and tell people, yes, you still are alive, you still are a teacher. your school's been destroyed, but you'd still like to get paid this month. neil? neil: steve, thank you for your incredible reporting from that region. more to come. their hope is to avoid this next storm which is just on the verge of becoming a trap kohl storm. meanwhile, there is a new house freedom caucus chair. his name is andy biggs. he is going to weigh in on this big deficit that is topping a trillion dollars. and the sopranos star who is helping to keep students safe in school with cutting edge technology. what's that all a about? after this. hope to our patients- like viola. her team treated her cancer and strengthened her spirit.
an update on the shooting incident at the border. u.s. customs and border protection, two agents were involved in a shooting. they pulled over a vehicle they thought was speeding, asked for license and the driver of the car shot at the officer. injured, but will be okay. one of the assailants in that car is dead and another injured. we don't know much more than that. maybe my next guest does. he's the upcoming house caucus chair. thank you for taking the time. >> thanks, neil. good to be with you. neil: can you update us, what you've learned about this? >> well, the information i have, which is unofficial because they're still investigating is pretty much what you have, that they pulled an individual over, that the person started
shooting, hit the officer in the chest and he was wearing his gear, that protected him. and his backup officer fired and killed the shooter. so that's the short end of it, but they're still investigating and hopefully we'll get more information later today. >> so this was on the u.s. side of the border? >> that's correct. neil: and do we know whether these were individuals here illegally? >> i've been given some information that they haven't fully verified yet, so i'm kind of uncomfortable saying. neil: no, i understand. >> they're still trying to verify that information. neil: the one officer was hit and you've been very patient with my hammering you on this. i want to be clear. hes' going to be okay? >> yes, my understanding he's already been released. that the gear worked as it was supposed to. he suffered, i think, very minor
injuries physically of course. so we don't know what else is going to happen there, but it looks like he's going to be okay. neil: all right, now switch gears to your new title heading the house freedom caucus, a largely conservative group, safe to say, 40-some odd individuals. you want to watch spending and strict with the government books, but all of this comes at a time, congressman, i'm sure you're aware, the spending spigot is out of control. trillion dollars this year, we have a month to go the fiscal year. i'm not blaming republicans any more than democrats, it's seemingly an unstoppable problem. what does the freedom caucus want to do about it? >> we found two parties that democrats and republicans, and we've got to push to stop this. i think that systematically we've got a problem. i think the process itself is
broken. i don't think you should have two committees, separate one on budget and one on appropriations. i'm going to keep advocating for elimination of one of the committees to try to change the structure and we've got to keep speaking on it and hammering on it and nobody wants to make hard decisions and that's part of the problem with the procedures in process right now. we go to continuing resolution or short-term spending bills. we don't even know what the poison pills are going to be in there. are they going to continue to fund abortion with federal dollars? are they going to prevent us from building border fence and using other funds for emergency immigration control? who knows what they're going to have in there and we have got to seek transparency and the best way to seek transparency, in my opinion, is to consolidate those committees into one committee and open up the books a little bit more frequently and more
often. neil: do you think republicans should lead on this? because after all, the reputation of the republican party had been, we're very serious about budget deficits, we're very serious about spending restraint, but, you know, republicans have the run of the table and ran this up even more. so, when the president chastise the democrats for spending like crazy, is he in a big old glass house? how do you guys get out of this? >> i think republicans should lead on this. neil: they're not doing this. >> we're not leading on it and that's part of the problem and i think that's where the freedom caucus comes in. it's not just a freedom caucus. i can tell you that i was pleased that so many people voted against raising the credit -- or the debt and the spending caps just not too long ago, so many republicans. and so i know that it's not just freedom caucus, there are other members in our conference that want to do the same thing. we just have to get on the same page and push forwardment i
mean, neil, there have been people in congress that tell me when they started this, a five year budget balancing plan and seven years and ten years and now i'm hearing 15 years and it just never happens and you have to make the hard decisions and be willing it be accountable for the decisions you make. >> both parties signed the deal that will keep the government operating past the deadline and and report on how you do that, both have signed off on hundreds of billions dollars more spending. there's not even an attempt to control the growth. it's got to be troubling, right? >> right, and that's why so many of us voted no on that. because you have to step in and say, look, we have these caps for a reason, and congress puts the president in awkward position. we're basically going to say, guess what? you get to take this short-term spending deal or you get to shut down government and that's not-- neither one is popular with the
american people, but the one thing that's most dangerous is to continue to spend far more than we bring in. so, you know, you actually have record revenue coming in. you have growth and revenue to the federal government, but guess what? you're outpacing that by almost two to one in the growth department in the spending and this is just irresponsible and it can't go on and i'm afraid that it's-- congress runs on kind of a, when the crisis comes, that's when we act and i have to tell them, i have to tell my colleagues, the crisis is here. we have to start acting more fiscally reasonable than we're acting now. we've got to change the processes that we have. we've got to face the facts. we've got to face tough decisions because you're know the house, it's a two-year election span and everyone wants to say let's not do it during an election year, well, when do you do it? when do you do it then? >> congress, i can always come up with a reason not to start it
today. andy biggs, great to have you. thank you very much. and mechanics to get this done, one is to address the 12 spending bills that all have to be written off and approved in order to get this agreement that keeps the government going. here is the thing though, time is running out. here to get through this, and to help us see what i mean by the time running out thing, lucas, our correspondent. what are we looking at? >> neil, it's september and that means that congress is back and so is a looming shutdown. with both sides deadlocked, a continuing resolution or cr might be needed. >> think we are going to need a cr because this is-- the shorter it is, the better we are and we stay working on it in a bipartisan way. >> but, neil, not all senators
agree. >> i'll fight a full cr, it destroys the military budget process. it really puts our nation at risk militarily. >> this week mitch mcconnell accused the democrats of failing to uphold their part of the bargain by introducing add-ones he referred to as poison pills. the democratic whip responded. >> one man's poison is another man's vitamin. we think some of these are good solid amendments. whether we're persuade the not to offer them depends whether we have an agreement. >> mark esper recently approved spending, 3.6 billion dollars of pentagon construction funds to build 750 miles of wall along the southern border. democrats were outraged. >> i think there is real concern about taking money from military construction, from health and human services that's been
allocated by this congress to do other things and take that money from the border wall. >> prognosis leaders have long complained cr's are bad for the military because they re-up old spending levels and it's simply a bandaid, neil. neil: thank you, very very much. i just want yto update you on this report, hamza bin laden is dead, he's the son of osama bin laden who was killed years back by u.s. navy seals at his house in pakistan. and hamza, deemed to be his father's sort of heir to the terrorist group not only compromise-- quoting the white house, al-qaeda important leadership skills, but important activities
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>> all right. well, the president's landing in the belly of the beast, i guess. in california where he's going to address the homeless crisis. he says that liberal policies are causing it and the federal government needs to step in to fix it. we've got nick port with us, democratic strategy back from the advisory board member jenna elliss reed. politically, maybe you could help me with this, noel. the president was in baltimore this week, you know, the
rat-infested place and he took on the critics and protesters and now he's going to california. so the tag line that he only goes to friendly venues, is discrediting that. one step further, it's your leaders who is making the homelessness mess here. s' trying to target, you know, the governor and mayors of all of these key cities where it's out of control who are democrats. >> this is perfect. i thought when he went-- when he said that in baltimore, i thought it was good and i think going to l.a. and confronting the homelessness crisis, it is a huge crisis. everybody knows, you know, in san francisco there have been conventions that have actually said we're not going to have a convention here because this is just disgusting. so, the fact that the president is shining a light on these, you know, liberal communities by saying that it doesn't work, i think it's a black eye to them. they haven't come up with a solution. no, if donald trump comes there
and they have a committee and they seem to be working and trying to try on different solutions to combat that crisis, i think that's great. but more importantly, it's basically showing how inept the other side is because they can't handle one huge issue that's a black eye for the united states. neil: you know, michael, they've spent a lot of money in the state and collectively over the years, the cities, l.a., san francisco and way north to seattle, same issue. no shortage of funds on a problem that's only gotten worse. >> a big portion is a mental health issue. when you look at washington d.c., st. elizabeth was a place where people could go to at night who are homeless and get treatment and then in the morning they had to leave. and they can't do that anymore. we've cut budgets for-- >> but democrats run the roost there so they would control the budget. >> but the federal government is
the one who does a lot of mental health allocation of funds, so-- >> you're blaming this on republicans? >> i think that both sides could do better with mental health. neil: trying to be fair and balanced here. john, i understand in seriousness that nothing seems to work. the president shedding light on it could cut both ways. >> in california we talk about a lot of money, close to 1 trillion dollars that state and local governments have spent in california on anti-poverty programs. there if you view the metric of poverty based on the supplemental poverty measurement, which includes the cost of living, which is a more fairway of looking at it. california is at the top. so for president trump to go there and confront and say what are you doing and what is actually going on. these are failed policies. he's going to the epicenter of
where democrats and liberal policies have failed. so if we go by the maxim which is appropriate, which we can't judge policy outcomes based on intent, but rather by result. he has a great opportunity to go in and say state and local governments are failing and it's not necessarily the federal government's responsibility to step in, but to say what are republicans and what are conservative priorities here, that is not just the presidency, but down ticket. but i think that's a really, really great opportunity not just for his presidency in 2020, but looking at the conservative policy priorities as a whole. >> but it should be unacceptable, i think, for mayors, for people running in these local, you know, cities and districts to be reelected, as let's say current status, when you have the people, the community is growing, it's going, you know, to more districts. so, you know, i see that this
has got to be stopped and i can't believe that we're-- >> and it's the money. right? if businesses eshew conventions, then-- >> what's attracting them to keep building and building and bigger and bigger. >> and democracies, they'll basically go by those that are their own utility nonnot constituency and that's where state and local governments have to be held accountable and held accountable to the nation not just to their own constituency that clearly they're failing. >> local municipalities have to keep balanced budgets which the federal government doesn't have to do. it's harder when you have urban areas and people, the high cost of living and-- >> and it's doubling down, so when the government wants to cover medical and related costs to protect illegals, you can argue that he's compounding the problem, not solving the problem. and a lot of legal residents in california and some of the other cities are saying, hey, what
about me? >> yeah, but in urban areas, what you're having is high cost of living-- >> where are the taxes going? california is one of the highest taxable states. >> california shimmed out more tax money than they take in. you and i both know that. neil: a lot of californians hop over and go to vegas because it gets to be outrageous. >> there's an income tax kind of disparate, but when it comes to the homeless crisis-- >> are you worried as a democrat, the president goes there and highlights some of these problems, quite right to say that both parties contributed although a lot of these were led by good, fond-thinking liberals who thought this was the right thing to do and now they've realized trillions of dollars in they're not getting the bang for the buck. do you worry that the president will make that obvious and that your good heart is costing people a lot of money? >> i hope that the president gets this one right, but empathy
isn't exactly hits strong point so i don't think that he's going to be able to solve the homelessness problem. >> the facts are-- and to say something's not working, right? it's out of control. >> it is and we have to do something about it. >> and there's also the liberal policy as the $15 minimum wage and running on that. >> and even the republicans are-- >> a lot of them aren't though, and if we actually look at the capit capitalist mentality and that people can earn and have a job as well. we're basically pricing out companies, pricing out people who don't have a college education and they need the lesser paying jobs in order to make a living. so this is a failed policy in california. >> most people aren't homeless because they can't find a job. there are extenuating circumstances, and mental health
issues and-- >> and that may be. the people visiting the city don't want-- >> there's not a lot of people fleeing california, california is doing very well. neil: we'll have a lot more on this and this report that's out. everyone wants to know what's in it after this. we're woven together by the moments we share. everything you need, all in one place. expedia. ahh... your teeth hurt? sensitivity. gotta do something about it. new crest gum and sensitivity starts treating sensitivity immediately, at the gum line, for relief within days and wraps your teeth in sensitivity protection. ohh. your teeth? no, it's brain freeze! crest.
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>> you know, this slipped in yesterday and no one knew what was going on. we know that the attorney general of the united states bill barr has a draft allegation of fisa abuses from the obama administration and sort of laid the groundwork for what would be the investigation of team trump itself and led to the mueller report. you know the rest of the story. so does this next guy who is eager to find out what's in that ig report. the former house oversight
committee chairman trey gowdy. good to have you back. how are you. >> i'm fine. neil: help me with this. it's conjecture at this point. we do know that the attorney general has the draft of the report, but i don't know if he can put out anything on the draft. what do you think he's doing with it. >> two things, number one, classification review. i think it's in everyone's best interest to have as much of this material public as possible, but there are certain equities you have to protect. so there's a classification review, but secondarily, and this is true with every ig report. you send the report to the agency or the entities involved for a fact check. so, in other words, bill barr can't tell michael horowitz, go found different facts, but if there's an error, if you know, look, mike is good, but he's not perfect. just like judges circulate opinions and other folks will send memos to their partners,
say, look, did i get this right, that's what the ig is doing. he's saying look at this, if you see any factual error, bring it to my attention before i make it public. neil: if it's proven or at least the inspector general laid the groundwork that all of this started on a lie, or on a fiction, what is andy barr-- times, what does attorney general barr did with that? >> it depends and there will be two fictions, if you will. remember, neil, there's the spring of 2016 which is when we think the russian investigation began and that led to the peter strzok opening the file in july and then you've got fisa. so there are two lines of inquiry. whether or not the original investigation was factually predicate, that's important and then you have the use of the dossier and the surveillance of american citizens. so my guess is horowitz has looked at both. if he finds malfeasance then
he's going to do what he did with comy, which is there won't be an indictment, but hopefully consequences in the court of public opinion and this history. if there are potential crimes, horowitz will refer those to the only entight in our society that can prosecute crimes which is the executive branch, in this case the department of justice. neil: you know, congressman, a federal prosecutor is now recommending charges against the fbi former number two, deputy director andy mccabe. since that time, for lying, essentially for lying to authorities. since that time, we're told that mr. mccabe's lawyer has said that prosecutors should drop the probe because apparently earlier investigations show that he did know the lie. i don't know who is telling the truth, but if there's no proof that he lied, do you agree with his lawyer, cease, desist, move on? >> i don't think his lawyer is
saying andy mccabe didn't lie. i don't think anybody is saying that. i think his lawyer is saying, a false statement is one of the elements for prosecution and it has to be-- >> the lawyer is saying he has not been-- andy mccabe-- indicted for lying to investigators. i don't know what they describe as a lie or misrepresentation of the facts, but go ahead. >> well, keep in mind what andy mccabe said. i heard a clip of him. he said i never intentionally misled. that's different from misleading someone so they're playing a legal game. every defense attorney in the country doesn't want their client indicted. there's nothing news worthy about a defense attorney saying hey, don't indict my client. we'll see what the grand jury does. i said it the other night, it's wildly unpopular, but in this country you're presumed innocent until a judge or jury says otherwise.
neil: amid all of this drama, and this is going ahead, jerry nadler wants impeachment hearings going forward. and some are concerned it's going too far and distracting on what democrats find more appealing to voters. where is this going? >> boy, you talk about mishandling something from day one, nadler has mishandled. i mean, if we are debating nomenclature between impeachment investigation, and they've already lost. it was on the mueller report and we were underwhelmed. and then weighted on mueller to testify and that's going to breathe life into this investigation. that was catatonic. that was pathetic. and nadler that he's got a primary in his own democrat and people that run the party in the house, which are the progressives. neil, when you are calling witnesses from an impeachment 40
years ago, i'll give him some free legal advice, you ain't got much of a case if you're calling witnesses like john dean from watergate. what does that have to do with trump? so, this has been a disaster from day one and i don't expect that to change. neil: all right. we'll watch it closely, congressman. thanks for coming in. always good seeing you. >> yes, sir, you too. neil: in the meantime with our kids back in the classroom i want you to meet a former soprano star urging schools to use cutting edge technology to keep each and every one of those kids safe, including, by the way, his own. i'm your cat. ever since you brought me home, that day. i've been plotting to destroy you. sizing you up... calculating your every move. you think this is love? this is a billion years of tiger dna just ready to pounce. and if you have the wrong home insurance coverage, you could be coughing up the cash for this.
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local level. neil: but you don't mention guns, as much as-- >> well, i can tell you because by looking into all of these things, if they would have-- democrats they go to sleep at night, all they say is gun control, universal background checks, but they refuse to look at if you don't arrest these kids when they threaten lives, they have no background. neil: and he legally had access. >> yeah, he bought the gun legally. but if we would have had him arrested for threatening to kill, right, or fortre tresspasg at the school after he threatened to shoot the school up or threatening to rape kids, he wouldn't have been able to-- >> and going back to middle school of killing people and-- >> it's on record. that's why with the background checks it doesn't make sense to me. if democrats don't want to arrest juveniles when they commit crimes. neil: and they say, hey, you've got to be careful with this. >> and that's why it's up to the
parents and grandparents to know what's going on in the school. and they should go out and purchase my book, why meadow died. neil: and did nikolas cruz know his victims? you said meadow didn't know him and she was one of 17 killed, 17 were injured. did he know them, did he target them? >> he was just a psychopath sick kid for nursery school. he got kicked out of nursery school for biting kids and scratching-- >> your daughter was trying to help others. >> my daughter was a fighter until the end, neil. she was on the third floor. she was shot, this teacher she had led her out into the hallway into gunfire and she was shot four times and covered a freshman, neil. fighting until the end and at the end she was shot another five times, and they both got killed. while that deputy waited outside. it happened and my life will never be the same. neil: and that's andrew pollock.
i understand there have been better than 300 books written by parents of kids who were lost in shooting. i've got to tell you that andrew's was gripping and read it, but not without a box of tissue. and you realize everything was out there to pursue nikolas cruz. andrew's to use this technology to try to-- the principal behind this, and the guy you might recognize as vito from the spanos, i shook his hand and i will not argue with anything he says. you might be another story. welcome, gentlemen. you took an interest in this because you have a child in elementary school and you saw what happened and you didn't
want that to happen. >> right, i was talking to my neighbor who happens to be lee's aunt and one of the incidents happened, my daughterer viviana was six at the time and she said, you know, my nephew lee is doing great work, maybe you should see him. >> i went to see him and was so impressed with what he's doing, i know a lot of people, i've met a lot of people, i'd like to help. not only in schools. i just took him to the great people at lowe's home improvement in north carolina and i continue to meet people and introduce and they're always so impressed after lee does the presentation. it's just remarkable how they want to expand and go forward. neil: and i understand this so we know more about your company, but i was wondering it does provide cameras everywhere and a way for police on hand to see images that maybe with what happened in the case of parkland
they could have pounced on sooner. >> we realized after parkland seconds matter. like andy said, a few seconds, a few of these people could be alive. we want to get the first responders information as soon as possible. and with the lock down, they hit the button so that law enforcement can see. neil: they have the cameras on, but this gets it to police and locks the doors of the school. >> it locks the doors and let them know that they're in a lockdown and get in the classroom kick. release doors, speak over the pa and gives an immediate response time. neil: what about catching the shooter. and the weird thing, from pollock's book they knew about him and a lot of kids when told it was cruz, they were not at all surprise.
if that picture were available as was getting into the school, that that could have gotten authorities a heads-up, right? >> exactly, using facial recognition technology. if he's on a suspension list or expulsion list and alert-- >> did he have a disguise, a facial disguise? >> not that would have eliminated that. when he got out from the uber, and seen that in a perimeter camera. neil: who would be watching? most people are not watching people going into a school. >> the cops are alerting. we set up the software to set up alerts to security personnel, safe members, as well as any guard personnel within the school. neil: joe you're looking at that and there are a lot of privacy advocates that say, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're going one step too far. you say? >> i say if it's going to save lives, lets, you know, fix it or, you know, whatever has to be
done because if that would have happened and you would have been alerted, i mean, it's happened, who knows-- i don't want to speculate, but, you know. neil: i know. do you think that schools should have, you know, a lot of them make it very tough for someone to get in, even parents who come in, they're locked and they have to be buzzed in. in some cases and they come in blazing, and could yours handle that. >> four points, infrastructure hardening, perimeter, see something, say something, god forbid they do get in, the intergreated response, seconds matter. neil: and a lot of money and a lot of skoo schools don't have the money. >> the grants, andy is in partnership for districts, we're going to start applications with
andrew pollock. neil: you have to know the strange characters who are trying to get into the school. who would be doing that watching? >> i think the key is knowing who is expelled, who is suspended. typically when we found that the people coming to the buildings are known, known potential threats so having that data base and knowing who the potential threat it makes it easier to control the situation. neil: for your child, let's say, a concern about another kid in the class who is just weirding him out and we always hear of these cases about you there was one in the miami-dade public school system, a student who had terrifying drawings and a kid drawing terrifying stuff transferred out of the school. he didn't mean to do it and now he's ostracized and out. >> it's the world we live in, neil. you can't kid-- say something on facebook and you set off an alert. it is, and kids should be educated about that, you know, it's just a different world and
it's not like it was so be careful what you say and what you do because you're going to have a problem. neil: do either of you have any thoughts on this push, 145 ceo's who have been pushing congress to get guns under control, do something about them? do you think that's part of the mix? i talked to andrew pollock about it, he says essentially it's backwards. that's not the issue as much as this is. >> i think we focus on the issue at hand and the information hardening this target. neil: and this kid got his guns legally through the system. >> a lot of things we have to work on as well, when it comes to technology, when it comes to training. a lot of schools aren't properly trained what to do during an active shooter. what we can do is the holistic approach to really train and use technology to make sure this doesn't happen again. >> have you talked to your kids, be prepared, this is what you do? >> you know, i point things out to her on the news and they, you know, go through it at school, but it's reality.
of course, they're not thinking about it all the time. i am, you know, if i'm in a populated area and always thinking like, what if i start hearing shots. what am i going to do? where is my daughter? where is my wife if she's with me. neil: and god help the person that would challenge you. it's going to be a long day. thank you very, very much. andrew pollock behind it and we've got to do something and this is a step in the right direction. more after this. we're woven together by the moments we share. everything you need, all in one place. expedia. i had no idea that my grandfatherfe changing moment for me. was a federal judge in guatemala. he was an advocate for the people... a voice for the voiceless. bring your family history to life like never before. get started for free at ancestry.com
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we've got jonas max ferris and michael lee and deirdre bolton. let me talk to you about this idea that both parties are aligned on this. go after these guys and rein in these guys. very different companies, sectors all, but that's a common bipartisan theme. >> well, two kind of very different issues here. one is, with these juul pods, e-cigarettes, there's just not enough data then they're highly addictive and targeted at children. when it comes to children, it's an easy political win and something to look into. neil: you're for that? >> yes. and you look at the google side of it. they have 90% of search, between google and facebook almost 60% of all digital ad sales, how much power do you want one company to have. neil: we used to say that about other companies and they're gone? >> like oil--
>> victrola. neil: exactly. >> the radio. >> the power that google has has never been seen by any other company and at one point, how good is that for commerce to have-- >> and that is an argument. >> it is an argument and i think there are some things in common. the tech companies say we're just a delivery system for your content and that's what juul is saying, you're the delivery system and it's not our fault that your kids put in marijuana and other products in and cause themselves in with the vitamin e or-- >> don't these products help people get off tobacco. >> i don't think that, altrea-- changed their name. >> probably would have been part of the strategy. >> so many billions if they thought it was a destroyer. the problem is it's not nick
cor nickorette gunman. i think that melania trump started the juul crackdown and i think she's right. she's got a teenage son. it's like having jolly ranchers with nicotine on them. neil: be careful what you wish for. i know you're a capitalist and for you to be espousing this probably goes against your grain. to go after bacon and-- >> why can't we just card these kids like we card everybody for liquor, for example, why can't you be 21-- >> the similarity with tech, we're going afte after traditio cigarettes. >> and the juul thing slipped in. nobody paid attention to it. neil: spillover effect? >> a spillover effect, it's something highly addictive to the most vulnerable.
>> all right. first dorian and now humberto, after being slammed by a hurricane, the bahamas are ready for another storm. hard to say how bad it gets. adam klotz is following it. >> the storm is it over the abacos, the area crushed by dorian. this is the center of circulation. most of this shifted off to the east and the heavy rain and wind mostly on the east side of this storm, there are the islands, they're missing the brunt, the
absolute brunt of the system. that doesn't mean they're completely out of the woods and these are the bahamas and those are tropical storm warnings, still some wind and rain maybe only one to three inches widespread. we did see some tropical storm warnings along the florida coast. they've gotten rid of those because they track further off to the east and that's good news for folks in the bahamas and folks here along the u.s. coast. they'll step out of the way here and see basically how we stay off the coast and a sharp turn away with the carolinas. as we go through the weekend, likely some rip current issues across portions of florida running into georgia and the carolinas. outside of that though, just some rain bands, no real intense winds and here is the forecast for tropical storm humberto, actually likely to become a hurricane by the time you get into early next week. even as it does that, it stays far off the coast and shoots out to sea and jumping eventually to
a category 2 storm. that's what they project. by the that time the middle of the week into early thursday, we're starting to run up on bermuda. that's going to be something to pay attention to as it gets closer. it's a wide angle and you could miss that island, but it's one to pay attention to. i think the states are mostly in the clear with this one. a little bit of rain and you see some bands of showers. the coast is going to be choppy across florida, but, neil, this is not dorian and that's good news for all of these folks. neil: all right, adam, thank you very, very much. and we'll follow this closely at the weather center. i'm getting a lot of e-mail from a lot of folks on the vaping situation and vaping products, about a hundred and i can't respond to each and every one. and you find this controversial and some extreme, it's not good to go after these products and others saying that individuals should decide. monday we'll talk on the fox business network, from the
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>> this is a fox news alert. president trump saying this morning that osama bin laden's son, hamza bin laden was killed in a u.s. counterterrorism operation. leland: we don't know who in that video is hamza, but we'll get to that. kristin: welcome from headquarters from washington, i'm kristin fisher. leland: welcome back. kristin: thank you. leland: the democratic debate. kristin: they only had three hours. leland: hamza bin laden was seen as a leader for the future generation of the terrorist group. and joining us now with the details, as iffy as they