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>> martha: that is "the story" for thursday, but the story goes on, have a great night everybody, thanks for being her here. ♪ >> tucker: welcome to "tucker carlson tonight," one of the hallmarks of washington is short memory -- people assume the way things are now are the way things are always been. the cia for example is not always like the cia when you're watching now. when president harry truman founded the agency he envisioned it as a daily newspaper with a readership of one, the president. the cia would collect intelligence from a variety of sources and they would collate that intelligence and give it to the president who would use it to make wise and informed foreign policy decisions. it was a good idea but like a lot of good ideas, they meet the
same fate, bureaucracy quickly metastasize is and overwhelms good intentions and it certainly happened with the cia. within a few years, harry truman himself regretted creating it. in an op-ed he complained that "the cia has diverted from its original assignment, it has become operational and at times a policymaking arm of the government." truman was disturbed by that development and he called for scaling back the cia's power dramatically but of course it never happened -- the opposite happened. over time, the cia got more powerful. today, the agency and other intel agencies like it aren't simply policymaking arms of government, at times they clearly want to be the government itself, they want to run it, everything. and they do. that is the main lesson of donald trump's phone call with the ukrainian president, we learned today that the official who filed the so-called whistle-blower complaint against the president was a career cia
officer. the official did not agree with the president's foreign policy views, so he felt entitled to veto those views and bring the u.s. government to a standstill which he did. that is the meat of the story. we know this because the complaint was released today to the public, you can read it if you want. it tells us nothing we didn't already know from a transcript of the phone call, trump talked about a variety of issues including possible corruption of joe biden and his son. trump mentioned no military aid or quid pro quo. it's hard to see how it's an impeachable offense. all of a sudden, everybody in d.c. and nodding sagely in unison thinks it is. the same people who spent two years writing russia collusion fan fiction are outraged once again, or did they ever stop being outraged? they aren't telling us they trump presidency is really
godfather part four. >> like any mafia boss, the president didn't need to say that's a nice country you have, it would be a shame if something happened to it. >> people see the stuff in movies, you see my boss is doing it, is it something presidents do? >> we see this from mob bosses, we don't see this from presidents. >> is a difficult transcript that what i would get and put it into evidence and course of a mob boss trial. it was right out of don corleone. >> people have analogized this kind of conversation to when the godfather would say i want you to do something, everyone knows what is involved here. >> donald trump thought to run u.s. foreign policy the way tony soprano and his family only less elegantly. >> tucker: part of this is our fault in the media, we've set up terrible incentives where you don't get on television unless you say extreme and mindless
things. what is surprising is how so many of these extreme and mindless statements come from people with long and distinguished careers, debasing themselves in order to be on television. the prime example is the chairman of the house intelligence committee adam schiff of burbank, california. he recently went into a kind of trance and delivered his own prophetic version of what he believed must have happened between president trump and the president of ukraine. >> this is the essence of what the president communicates. "we've been very good to your country, very good, no other country has done as much as we have. but you know what? i don't see much reciprocity here. i hear what you want, i have a favor i want from you though. i'm going to say this only seven times so you better listen good. i want you to make up dirt on my political opponent, understand? lots of it. most ">> tucker: keep in mind, e
men's room at starbucks, that is the man who chairs the mighty house intelligence committee, we trust him with the most sensitive information and yet he is clearly, demonstrably mentally ill. his position as the president should be impeached for asking why joe biden's son was paid $600,000 a year by a foreign company and why the prosecutor investigated the foreign company was fired after a threat from joe biden. asking about that gets you impeached. remarkably for the moment until they wake up, the rest of his party appears to agree with him. ilhan omar and alexandria ocasio-cortez are thrilled by all of this. >> we are talking about the president using the full power of the united states government in order to pursue and manufacture a politically
motivated investigation against a political opponent. i think it's an allegation that frankly has united more members of the party on impeachment than any other, for that i think it's an understandable decision that we make. >> the fact is that this president is corrupt. corrupt president who violates his oath in office must and will be impeached. >> tucker: so i hope you're following that, they are telling us -- the squad is telling us in the rest of the party is obeying -- issues are now irrelevant, impeachment is all that matters. you may be wondering whatever happened to the democratic party, the party of working people, the fabled big tent party? that's gone. increasingly the democratic party looks like an alliance between the women's studies department at oberlin and a group of unscrupulous intel officials. the group is both flaky and
authoritarian, that's a rotten combination. it's a rotten combination for the democratic party itself. for 230 years, this has been a republic with an elected president, elected. over time, it's worked pretty well but now without a single vote being held, no referendum on this at all, bureaucrats in washington have decided to change the system. they would like a new form of government where americans real rulers of the unelected bureaucrats in the intel agencies in washington. they aren't hiding this, they've been fighting for it pretty openly since before trump's presidency began. in the summer of 2016, the fbi justified opening the russia investigation, and sucked all of the oxygen out of the city -- they justified it on trump campaign position, they didn't like has publicly stated views on russia. the views that voters ratified
when they elected trump. the intel community disagreed with his foreign policy views so they tried to destroy him. that's an observation of what happened. two weeks after he took office, somebody decided to leak the president's phone calls with foreign leaders -- imagine that. imagine having to run the country when you can't even speak confidentially with their counterparts in other countries, how does that help america? you may hate trump, you should still be against that but that kind of thing has been happening ever since. if that is an administrative coup d'etat. it's not an overstatement to say that's what it is. a lot is at stake here. if these people whose names you don't know who were never elected to anything succeeded in taking over the government and running things in real life, we're done, our democracy won't recover. the president, not just this present but future presidents will be figureheads, they will
be beholden to a praetorian guard of intelligence officials in washington. if they do fight consensus in washington in any way, they will be sabotaged and hurt. that's what they are trying to do now. washington clearly wants to pretend the 2016 election never happened -- okay, that's amnesia. but now they want to make sure that no future election will matter. that's terrifying. jeanine pirro is the host of justice with judge jeanine, her book is out today. judge jeanine joins us tonight. it seems significant to me within the context of all we've seen over the past three years that the so-called whistle-blower, the person who complained about this conversation was a career cia officer. >> as you recall, chuck schumer said a long time ago, you don't mess with the intelligence agencies because they'll get back at you six ways to sunday.
i must tell you, everything you said is so on point but the most disappointing part of this is when you've got someone joking about impeaching a president, making a parody about an organized crime family and then reading words that have nothing to do with the actual transcript, it's an indication they don't have a case which is why they actually have to parody come out listen to me another seven times they are not going to get this, that come of the other thing. if there were an impeachable offense or evidence of any kind of criminality or any kind of illegality, he would have read that statement and that would've been the end of it. we are dealing with adam schiff and he is the same guy who stumbled over himself 86 times to get to a camera to tell us he knew more about russia collusion then bob mueller did and obviously he didn't. the sad part about this is this country has an economy that is
soaring. we are now in a position with the strongest military ever. these haters who couldn't drag hillary clinton across the presidential finish line want to do everything they can to impeach him. we hate him, we are going to get him out. that's a sad point and let me make one more points. this president has an absolute right to get to the bottom of what happened with meddling in the 2016 election, and nobody in congress and especially the democrats who were involved like james comey, brennan, the whole lot of them in the intel community have the right to stop him and accuse him of an impeachable defense because he now has a right to get to the bottom of it. >> tucker: the next time a democrat is elected president, you think they will be comfortable with a standard they have set? of some unelected intel agency guy doesn't like their foreign policy, he can destroy their administration?
>> they aren't thinking that far in advance because they are so blinded by the hatred, their hatred of donald trump they can't even see what real criminality is. you don't get a billion dollars unless you take the prosecutor off that company that my son is on the board of because he's about ready to interrogate my son and i don't want it to happen -- give me a break. >> and i don't think you've been watching cable news, i've learned this week that hunter biden was an expert and ukrainian energy policy and deserve those hundreds of thousands of dollars. >> do you want to know why he's not in the military? >> tucker: i don't want to hear it. i know him, he's a nice guy but it's fair to ask these questions. >> how to get a billion dollars out of china? >> tucker: that's a good question. good to see you.
senator chris murphy of connecticut told us just the other day that ukraine's president personally told him that donald trump demanded an investigation of joe biden. it appears that didn't happen, it's a confusing story and so we turn to our chief breaking news corresponded trace gallagher for some clarity. >> here's the tick tock on this. connecticut democratic senator chris murphy and wisconsin g.o.p. senator ron johnson met ntf with ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky. he was baffled as to why the trump administration put a hold on $391 million in military aid and wanted to reach a resolution to keep the money flowing. he also conceded that he and a zelensky did not talk in depth and the ukrainian president never brought up anything about
a request from president trump. on september 20th, last friday, the whistle-blower story went public and on monday senator murphy's narrative about his meeting with zelensky changed with murphy saying the entire new ukrainian administration was concerned that the aid that was being cut off the president was a consequence for their unwillingness at the time to investigate the bidens. the conservative free beacon and others when murphy said the entire administration, he meant present zelensky as well but now murphy says his comments were "unclear." he's adjusting his statement to clarify that president zelensky never drew a connection between the u.s. and the bidens and murphy is reiterating it was him, not zelensky who raised the issue of rudy giuliani's attempts to investigate hunter biden. we reached out to senator murphy's office to comment, they were for us to his tweets which were muddy at best.
>> tucker: amazing story. we promise clarity and you delivered. peter vanburen is exactly the person we want to talk to tonight, contributing editor at the american conservative, he is also a former whistle-blower who worked for the state department in iraq in 2009 and blew the whistle on waste, fraud, and abuse in that country and was hassled for it. it's great to see you, thanks so much. the reason i want to talk to you so much is because you are a legitimate whistle-blower, people on both sides of the aisle would acknowledge that and your whistle-blowing was important. you have this perspective on it, we are talking about whistle-blowing today, what do you make of this? >> if the whistle-blower is out there and has been a shame left, this is the time to feel shame.
he has taken the hard earned rights, the freedoms of whistle-blowers and protections that we have and turn them on his head instead of using his position to reveal first-hand information of criminality or malfeasance. instead what he has done is to hide behind those protections and the anonymity that comes with that to write an op-ed saying "hey, there's this nasty phone call out there, let's go after that." after it went through channels and went to the department of justice and his whistle-blower complaint was judged to have no criminality in it, that was over with -- somehow it all got leaks to the press and we see the circus that we have today. thankfully, donald trump has released the full transcript because at the end of the day, the whistle-blower's complaint is essentially something less than a whistle-blowers complaint and a pointer teeing up an issue for the democrats to go to bat with that there was this terrible phone call.
i think trump trumped him by releasing the call transcript and showing there just isn't anything there. you can't have a smoking gun if there's not a body on the ground and at the end of it all, the democrats are talking about impeaching over a telephone call. i think sharpie would be a better topic. >> tucker: it doesn't sound like you believe this really is whistle-blowing, it sounds like a political disagreement. >> when you talk about whistle-blowing, the key difference between a whistle-blower and a leaker is at the end of the day, intent -- what are they trying to do? we may disagree but in the case of edward snowden, what he wanted to do was expose nsa spying across individual americans, daniel ellsberg wanted to reveal that the u.s. government lied us into the vietnam war. in this case, they chose a set of circumstances and made all sorts of accusations about computer systems and servers and
essentially claimed that trump has shoehorned his way into ukraine when in fact if that's an extortion, they should never watch "the sopranos" ." >> tucker: it's nonsense. for joe biden was already faltering in the polls and other democratic parties plan to impeach the president centers around a cushy deal that his son got from the ukrainians. if he's a victim of his party isn't acting like it. last night he admitted in this dramatic test for american democracy, his best friend, mentor, closest pal in the world, barack obama hasn't even bothered to call him at all. >> have you heard from president obama this week? >> no i haven't. >> you guys don't talk about this kind of stuff? >> we don't talk about this kind of stuff. >> tucker: author and columnist mark steyn has a key and i for poignant moments like that. this may be more than anything i've ever seen made me feel sad
for joe biden. he is running on the obama legacy, obama clearly doesn't like him and they don't actually talk, what does that tell you? >> it says that democrats don't actually think joe biden can go the distance and impeachment we know will not take out president trump. it seems almost certain in fact to take out joe biden which is why not only obama but the democrats running in 2020, all of them today were gung ho for impeachment and not one of them had a word to say in defense of biden or his terrible, wretched prima facie corrupt son hunter. >> tucker: i'm speechless because we called this early on this show, whoever convinced joe biden to get into this race clearly hates joe biden, because it could never have ended any
other way but the way it's about to end which is total and other humiliation at the end of a very long political career. >> when he ran 30 years ago, he was a narcissist then. he always self aggrandized to a ludicrous degree, 30 years on he is self-aggrandizing about far more important issues. the defense of democrats is that joe biden may have said he got rid of this prosecutor, but all the government, every government in europe wanted this prosecutor gone -- that may be true. the foreign minister of germany and the foreign minister of france didn't go on tv and brag about how he gave a six hour ultimatum to a foreign government to fire its prosecutor general. the only politician on earth who did that is joe biden, and then you're surprised that suddenly people are excited about why
hunter biden is getting 50 grand a month in a country where the average wage at that time was $200 a month. where the guy he's working for who's giving him this money is a ukrainian oligarch and he puts hunter biden on the board at a time that the international anticorruption festival in london actually has biden -- the biden company as its exhibit a and global corruption. >> tucker: unbelievable. it's an amazing story. i fear biden will be out of the race before we hear all of its details. great to see you. with impeachment at the very in center of the agenda in washington, it seems a good night to hear from one man in particular, former house speaker newt gingrich who did manage and impeachment, one of the very few living americans who knows exactly what it's like
i'm sorry come after you. >> i think there are huge differences from the standpoint of the democrats, this is a really bad decision. given our own experience, we had a much stronger hand in an independent counsel report that said clinton was guilty on numerous counts including felonies -- what they are doing now makes no sense at all and i think will probably politically be very damaging. >> tucker: that's the way it seems to lesser political minds like mine, it's hard to see why they are doing this but they are. they've clearly thought it through to some extent, not all of them are stupid. what do you think the reasoning is here? >> i think what happens is you get into a room, surrounded by your partisans, you only listen to yourself. you only listen to people who are sending you money. the left wing of the
democratic party and "the new york times" wakes up every morning and says we know donald trump has done something terrible, i wonder what it is, the momentum, the morale, the excitement and every single story becomes the next opportunity, the next breakthrough. this one verges on "saturday night live" in being pathetic. nancy pelosi who was normally a very smart, shrewd, tough professional goes running out to hold a press conference when she has not read the transcript. she has not interviewed the so-called whistle-blower, she has no idea what the facts are. it's the momentum emotionally of where they are at. i think it's very hard for them to back off of a very basic reality which you know and you've covered, i've seen you talk to people about it brilliantly -- they hate trump.
they get up in the morning and they go i know he's done something terrible, what is it? by the way, this is "the new york times" fully as much as it is aoc or nancy pelosi or whatever. what happened this week is they got overly excited, they decided to do something truly stupid and i've said over and over again, i think what pelosi has done is destroyed biden's candidacy because she is going to bring so much attention to hunter biden and ukraine and hunter bind in china and i don't think joe biden can survive it. >> tucker: i think that is exactly right. you had a lot of time to think about this and you are one of the world's experts on the political effects of impeachmen impeachment. there's not many people who have actually done this, you're one
of them. what is the advice you would give for the lessons you learned from that that democrats are to remember? as they proceed on their own impeachment path. >> it's very interesting, i look back on mistakes we made during that period. i remember jimmy breslin wrote a book called how the good guys finally won, it was about tip o'neill and the watergate crisi crisis. o'neill was smarter than either nancy pelosi or newt gingrich because o'neill said i'm not going to be out front, i don't want it to be partisan. if it's partisan, it's dead. o'neill was very patient, very slow, and guaranteed that it became a bipartisan project in 1973. i was not able to do that for a lot of reasons and i frankly, my hat is off to tip o'neill because he got it better than i
did. pelosi is in worse shape than i am in. i was under the pressure that when the independent counsel report came out, it said bill clinton as guilty as this, he is guilty of this, seven places where they said he's guilty. we have no place for anybody independently has said donald trump is guilty of anything. furthermore in 1998, where he had committed a felony or he was stripped of his license to practice law in arkansas, he did have to pay a huge amount to the woman that he had assaulted, put all that to one side. we never had the situation where our party's front runner in this case vice president joe biden has a double vulnerability in both ukraine and china and what
pelosi is doing is she's elevating public attention and rapidly they're going to go past trump to focus on biden and i think it's going to destroy his candidacy. >> tucker: this is an amazing fact, this is the 25th anniversary of the contract with america. you have a fox nation special looking back at it, the first episode launches tonight. tell us what the special is lik like? >> let me say first of all i was at dinner tonight with two young people who were born that year and i was sitting there talking to 225-year-olds realizing this was 25 years ago we did this. i think there are a couple big lessons and people who watch the special or go to fox nation to watch the full package will learn a lot. first, it ended a 40 year period, 40 years in which the democrats were in charge of the house.
second, it proved you could actually have an idea oriented big proposal, the contract had welfare reform, tax cuts, balance the budget, a lot of ideas that were real that could work, and third, courageous teamwork matters. i think you see people were there at the time made a huge difference because they believed in the country. they knew after 40 years this was uphill and all of the popular opinion was that it was hopeless, we weren't going to make it, you couldn't imagine it, even as late as the weekend before the election, nobody in the news media thought we'd win. the fact was we broke a 40 year tradition of democratic control and it has changed power in washington dramatically. we got major reforms. >> tucker: i'll never forget, my first child was born that week, it was shocking, amazing.
speaker gingrich, thank you. >> great to be with you. >> tucker: you can catch a preview of his especial on the fox news channel, 8:00 p.m. eastern this sunday, all episodes will stream on fox nation. up next, cancel culture has become a global epidemic, now extremists are trying to cancel dave rubin, a frequent guest on this show. he's not backing down though, he joins is next.
>> tucker: western civilization once prided itself on its tolerance and openness, that turned out to be golden ag age. now we suffer under a plague of what they're calling cancel culture, "the des moines register" reminded all of us of how awful it is when they decided to crush a charity fund-raiser, now rubin
report posted dave rubin has been targeted for cancellation as well. activists are trying to stop that event entirely. he joins us tonight. how can antifa which is committed to violent revolution, it should never be considered a mainstream group, how are they in charge of whether you get to speak in public or not? >> let's clean up what antifa is, they call themselves antifa meaning they are antifascists but they are the fascists. these are people who use violence to silence their political opponent. they have bought into collectivism, they have bought into identity politics, they have bought into the very idea that if someone holds different political beliefs then you and i'm not talking about extreme political beliefs, i'm talking about any different political belief that these people should be shouted down, they should be
violently harassed and silenced. i am scheduled to speak on the 29th of this month at mohawk college in canada with maxine bernet, he's basically a libertarian. he is a very decent man by all accounts. he has some positions, these are positions of the right -- that's what he has as a libertarian. and for these people, they have threatened to shut down the event, they want to take pictures of people that show up and check their license plate numbers and all of these intimidation tactics which we know they have done at college events, we were informed they were going to cause the event to do ten times the security that was originally agreed upon. i've offered to cover that myself, i intend on being there, we intend on going ahead with the event. the sick and twisted part of this, they call us neo-nazis and
the rest -- i grew up with holocaust survivors in my family and extended family and friends and i know what that is. every week i come on your show and we talk about freedom of speech, we talk about the defense of western liberal values and we are running thin on them because they are calling everyone a nazi and a bigot and it is silence a good people. we are running out of runway before they silenced so many of us at the few of us stand up for it, we are going to run out of room too. we need the people who watch your show, my show, 90% of americans and 90% of western living citizens start standing up because if you live in the west now, you live in america or canada now in 2019 and you are afraid of saying what you think now, what do you think is it going to be like when these people get into power? >> tucker: that's exactly right, where will we be in 20 years?
the coveted mouth breathing shirts. our defending champion this week is susan layton who was amazing this week. she crushed jesse watters, i thought he was going to win but you beat him. our challenger tonight is attorney and fox contributor emily compagno who i have heard is also really sharp and fast on the buzzer. who knows what's going to happe happen? you both know the rules, it's making me nervous to say this but i will repeat them for our audience. hands on the buzzers, the first one to buzz and gets to answer the question. you got to wait till i finish asking it before you answer it. you can answer once i acknowledge you. every correct answer is worth a single point, every incorrect answer subtracts a point from your total, best of five wins. are you ready? we have a lot of multiple-choice questions beginning with the first one. wait till you get all the
options. boston dynamics the robotics company just released a video of its latest humanoid and it has a very unnerving new skill. what can this robot do? is it a gymnastics, b, juggling, or c archery? >> i'm going to choose c, archery. >> tucker: is it archery? >> wow. >> tucker: it's gymnastics. but i share your fear of robots, someday they will be doing archery and that's the day i'm
out. i'm with you. it's another multiple-choice. for years, amazon alexa also a kind of robot has a female voice, now the company is changing things up. for $0.99 he will be able to download a new voice for your alexa and it belongs to an acto actor. is it a -- i didn't know it was multiple-choice! >> it's going to emily, we know this, you give get the first ct it. as it a, chris riverwalk and, b, morgan freeman, c, samuel l. jackson? >> samuel l. jackson. >> tucker: pure gas guess.
>> they have hired the iconic actor to be its very first celebrity voice for alexa. >> tucker: i'm impressed. >> what about the law? isn't he supposed to announce for the question that was multiple-choice. >> tucker: that was multiple-choice, i announce multiple-choice and that's how i aced the s.a.t. and got into harvard, pure guessing. it's underrated. i went to trinity. question 3. fantastic news out of england, there will be another royal wedding, can you keep track of all that? is it letter, princess eugenie, b, princess beatrice, or c, somebody called lady janet? >> b, princess beatrice.
>> tucker: is it princess beatrice? >> harry and megan are back in africa but there is another kind of celebration going on, harry's cousin princess beatrice just got engaged. a big congrats to princess beatrice. >> tucker: i think it's the same person, so you got it right. congratulations, whoever that is. maybe our extra credit will be who is princes beatrice? another multiple-choice, fourth in a row. it was recently national one-hit wonder day. a classic one-hit wonder called the macarena was released in 1993, it sold over 4 million copies in america, it's about a woman who cheats on her boyfriend. what is the name of the band or performer who sung that song 26 years ago?
was it letter eight ricky martin, was it b the boom boom boys, or c, los del rio? >> see, los del rio. >> tucker: i don't think that can be right but let's check. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: that turns out to be right. did you remember, it's a good song, i remember making fun of it at the time but i don't remember why we made fun of it but it's kind of awesome. final question. this is sudden-death, just one
answer, here it is. >> multiple-choice or single answer? >> tucker: single answer. you have to wait until i finish asking it in order to answer. which democratic presidential candidate is said to be working out sufficient to dead lift 350 pounds? [laughter] >> mayor pete? >> tucker: is it mayor pete who was dead lifting 350 pounds? >> fitness, wellness, it needs to be a bigger part of people's lives in my opinion. >> i don't think it's what people should vote on, i think people should exercise for their well-being. i think the vice president is in very good physical shape. that would definitely be part of
my workout. >> tucker: i talked to john delaney, my former neighbor, i had no idea he could deadlift 350 pounds, incredible. i think at the end susan, ten. you get the coveted mouth breather t-shirt. emily you were fantastic, i hope you come back. you are every bit of the competitor i hope you were. you play with flair. pension tension of the every wo see if you can beat our experts, will be right back.
this country, it's a global phenomenon. elizabeth may is head of the green party in canada, recently the party put up a photo of her that showed her holding a reusable cup with a metal straw. not so fast, the party admitted they photoshopped the image, they lied about it. in the original version, she was holding a single use disposable cup which is immoral so they changed it just like stalin used two. may said she was shocked the photo was edited. if this is different from one kamala harris attacks meet in grills steak one pete buttigieg lectures you for climate and applies private. when they are held to their own standards, we can celebrate. that's it for us tonight, tune in to every night at 8:00 p.m. to the show that is the sincere enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink, all of which are everywhere right now but don't worry, the moment will
pass. until it does, keep smiling. have a great night, we got great news for you, live from new york city, the largest metropolis in this country, sean hannity awaits to take over for the next hour. >> sean: it's a swamp just like where you live. d.c., new york, l.a., san francisco, swamp. the rest of america, more normal. great show, welcome to "hannity," we begin with a fox news alert. the real story, the real corruption, none of it, zero has to do with president trump except that the president is once again a victim of baseless lies, smears, hypocrisy, conspiracy theories, this is not what the lion, corrupt and at this point despicable, disgusting fake news media is telling you tonight. we have the real story and that