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>> so help me god. >> so help me god. >> congratulations. >> this guy the last big shocker sworn in today. is this guy the new big shocker may be sworn in in days. welcome, everybody, i'm catch cavuto. four hours to go before the state that brought us teddy signals it might be ready for a republican? we don't know. here's what we do know. huge lines at some massachusetts polling sites. some like they've never seen. you would think they're voting for president or maybe they're sending a message to this president because republican senatorial candidate scott brown shouldn't be leading but he is. should it be staying a true blue bastion? increasing signs it is not. new jersey, the first democratic bastion to show cracks and today
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swearing in chris cristie to give him a crack and in apparently new jersey, giving the celebrities a heave-ho. no tuxedos or gowns, apparently just a lot of pizza. no big deal message for the garden state. the same one about to play out for the bay state? with us, the guy close by in the ocean state. rhode island's republican governor, what do you make of this that there's something -- what's happening here? >> well, it's seismic actually. as you said in your lead in, nobody would have thought this would be possible a few months ago, a few weeks ago. the fact that scott brown is surging the way he is with the kind of groundswell of support that's pretty clear in terms of momentum and enthusiasm and excitement i think is seismic politically. >> neil: you were an anomaly in rhode island. republicans don't often win in
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your state. you can't run for reelection but you have proven it happens. they're arguing that events in -- like in new jersey with chris cristie and with a could happen today are anomalies, anger moments. nothing more, nothing less. >> i don't agree. people are angry, they're upset about a lot of things now in my view and you see it in my state and cross the country. the message is they don't like the politics they see out of washington. a lot of people voting for the president thought they were voting for somebody more centrist or left of center. they're seeing a party of the left wing pushing an ideological agenda at a time people are worried about the economy, their jobs, their income, what's happening in their neighborhoods
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sothy see a disconnect between what they're worried about every single day and that they see their government doing and politicians doing. >> neil: a lot of the victorious candidates we've seen, virginia, in new jersey, and potentially massachusetts, they've not exactly reached across the aisle but returned to republican roots. not to be democrat-liked as someone phrased t do you agree with that or how would you describe it. >> every case is different but fundamentally what is happening is those people, chris cristie, bob mcdonald, scott brown are talking about basic things. they're worried about the tax burden, worried about the level of spending that's occurring right now. most people know at a gut level this has to be paid for. in terms of healthcare, 85% of
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americans have health insurance n massachusetts, 97%. so there's a disconnect. >> neil: do you think that healthcare is what is driving the issue, that americans are taking it out on the democratic candidate what they think is being pushed on them by democrats period? >> i think it's one of the issues, no question about that. because scott's made it pretty clear that he does not support the healthcare and people are keenly aware. i think it's poetic, if he's able to pull this off, you recall was it massachusetts, the democrats in massachusetts that changed the law back general when they took it from romney to allow governor pat tick to appoint kirk, which gave them the 60th vote. it's poetic that massachusetts, which is the one that gave them the 60th vote, is going to take it away and is saying let's concentrate on the issues we're worried about and start working
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together and stop the polarization. >> yahoo -- you started with a not a great deal of fanfare as someone who rallied in a democrat state as a republican steward. governor, very good seeing you. thank you very much. >> my pleasure, neil, always. >> now to washington, a healthcare plan, assuming plan a, a democrat is safely elected. doesn't pan out, president obama is meeting at the white house. reports say the president may be trying for a 620th vote if democrats lose in massachusetts today. all this as house speaker nancy pelosi says she's going to get healthcare one way or the another. republican rick is running for governor in new york state so he too could join a list of giant
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topplers. >> what do you make of what they're doing? >> right now, acting feverishly to shore up the 60th vote. they know brown could be sworn in soon, blocking their ability to jam healthcare down the throats of the american people. they're in the back rooms enticing people with special deals, the ben nelson deal or the deal with the organized labor where if you're working in a job that is not covered by an organized labor contract, you're punished under the healthcare provision. so you'll see lots of actors coming and going, focusing on different people, republicans, to pick them off, trying to make special sweet deals and i hope the republicans hang tough and reflect what the constituents and people of america want and we don't get a healthcare bill
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that makes it more difficult for people with insurance, drives up the cost -- >> neil: you were never a fan but you think that this is going to accomplice indicate things to put it mildly for democrats? >> i think it's a huge problem for the democrats. >> neil: i think it's the opposite. it will force a emergency closed door operation whether you go for the 60 votes or a simple majority, the nuclear option to vote in the senate, or you just have the house vote on what the senate's doing and wham, bahm, thank you ma'am. >> if you're a deal making democrat that might be true but they have a deal with the hard left. >> neil: tell the hard left it's this or we botch it completely. >> i'm not sure that sells. they'll have unhappy democrats and get a deal that's a monstrosity or we will end up with a bad healthcare bill. either event, a victory by scott
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brown or close loss will send shock waves. >> neil: a close loss is a loss. >> they'll get the bill but it sends a message to democrats that independents and lots of democrats crossed over in the bluest much the blue stacy. >> maybe so. a year ago when barack obama was sworn in republicans were depressed and life was over and a year later now they're pie in the sky, everything is wonderful. i wonder if we've got, you know, the nation got ahead of itself last year on barack obama and republicans are getting ahead of themselves on their good fortune. we're ayear away from the election. >> republicans should not misread the victories. fantastic win by chris cristie, fantastic win in the suburbs of new york where long term democrats were defeated by republicans. a great possibility of a win in massachusetts, which is
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shocking. but having -- >> neil: that sets the staining stage for you to be governor. you don't poll well so far. >> neither did scott brown. >> neil: but you think once people are focused on the election, whether it's cuomo or the housing secretary or the attorney general, governor paterson, you think you can win. >> it's a antiincumbent, antispending. >> neil: so full timing helps. you need to bottle that rage. >> it's the people's passion. that's what you feel when you're out there. you feel, i can't take these taxes. we're exporting jobs and young people. we need to create jobs again. >> neil: very good seeing you again. >> great to be on. >> that democrat frustration start with a guy name joe? not sported by his party, all but giving up on his party and
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joe lieberman left his party and ran handily. he came back to washington and essentially ruled the world. joe leash lieberman with me now. >> whether that lead in was historically accurate or not, i appreciated it. >> neil: well i wrote it so it must be. my point was and is you saw something, sensed something that the democratic party you said had left you, to paraphrase and you were going to move on. what message, if democrats are in for beating tonight in massachusetts, do you think this is sending them? >> well, it's pretty clear that if scott brown doesn't win it's going to be close and that in itself is newsworthy. i think the message is from the voters of massachusetts that people are anxious about the future and unhappy about what's
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happening in washington. they're anxious about the economy, the continued high unemployment. they don't like all the partisanship and deal-making here in washington. and they're skeptical about the healthcare bill. >> neil: they're hyphening the deal making. you heard the president met with retiring senator boyne avery much of ohio. i might be the 60th vote to replace a massachusetts senator coming in who is not democrat. what do you make of that? >> i'd be shocked. >> neil: shocked about the meeting or shocked of the turn. >> i would be shocked if george votes for healthcare reform. we're at a point where there are not -- there's not a single republican who really will vote for this bill as it is now or as it was moving to be in the conference committee. so this is going to be a loud
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message from massachusetts and whether it's right or wrong, i was impressed by one of the national polls i saw yesterday that said two things. one is, opposition to the healthcare reform is very large among independents, unregistered with the party voters. and massachusetts is thought of as a blue state and generally votes democratic but almost 50% of the voters are unaffiliated so -- >> neil: that's a very good point. let me ask you, senator, if in november, the senate were to turn, a huge if, and you have been voting with the democrats, would you, as the independent crazy fox that you are, switch to the republicans or what would you do? >> you know, you're a devil, neil. >> neil: no i'm not. i'm asking a legitimate question. >> not a real devil but up to
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devil tri. that's a hypothetical long way from now. i was elected as an independent but remained a registered democrat so i'm with the democratic caucus. i call myself an independent democrat. i think the independenting are speaking loudly around the country today and they're telling us, one, to get together in washington. >> neil: that's includes terror a big hearing tomorrow. >> including terror. absolutely. second thing is today something about the economy and move to the center and worry about things they're worried about. a lot of the folks out there think we don't listen. one one of the things they're worried about is safety. tomorrow we're holding a hearing with secretary napolitano, head of the national intelligence office and the counterterrorism center and we're going to look where we are in terms of homeland security today. >> neil: would you fire her? do you think she should be
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dumped? >> no but i think some people, as the facts come out on what happened on the christmas day bombing -- the president says human errors were made. if human errors were made, humans made them and they have to be held accountable. >> neil: i must devilishly end this. just trying to stir the pot. >> you did your job, as always, well. >> yahoo. >> neil: the fight to the finish is on and based on voter turnout, we know is in.
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>> neil: 53 haitian orphans are closer to homes in america thanks to my guest but the red tape holding up the adoptions is not. ed rendell says there must be a better way. governor, good to have you. congratulations, a nice humanitarian gesture. >> thanks. it was exhilarating 22 hours.
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we left pittsburgh at noon yesterday and got back at 9:30 this morning and had great results. there were 54 kids. the only reason the 54th 54th wasn't on the plane is because they forgot her. she fell asleep on the plane and one of the sisters realized we didn't have her and she and her sister are flying back to we'll be 54 for 54. >> neil: this is very good news and i don't want to rain on the parade but did you do everything on the up and up? no laws were broke? >> no we did everything on the up and up and the good news is we believe because of what happened here the u.s. government and haitian government will be much closer to speeding up protocol forgetting orphans and other kids out of haiti and to the states. >> neil: how many of them have been adopted? >> of the 54, neil, of the 54,
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47 have already been legally adopted. that's 40 in the u.s., four in spain and three in canada. only seven have come up to pennsylvania unadopted. but after spending time with these kids, those young people will get adopted in posthaste. these kids had never been on a plane before. we wound up going to florida in a c17, one of those transport planes that can take four or five tanks. 53 kids, 25 nurses and doctors, a few of us. it was a sight to behold. with all the noise and turbulence. >> neil: what got you involved in. >> the two -- >> neil: who was it? >> right. it's a person that prefers to be anonymous. but the two ladies were from pittsburgh. when the earthquake happened is
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destroyed the orphanage. they called home and relatives got in touch with the university of pittsburgh medical college and they called me. we got the wheels moving. immigration did a great job, dhs did a great job. the state department did a great job and the military did a fantastic job. we got down there and there was many a road block but we got all the kids approved but we lost our plane. they're only allowed to stay a certain amount of time. a major by the name of miller said no problem, governor, you can go back on this c17 that had just unloaded a crane. we went back to orlando on the c17. it was an amazing story. but the good news, neil, is we think that this may set a pattern for going forward in the future. >> neil: governor, thank you, a very nice gesture. thank you again, governor rendell. >> we're watching closely the
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>> neil: tune to massachusetts now. the fate of the senate race in the hands of voters. turn-out said to be twice the amount of the primaries. even foul weather not apparently keeping them away. what i love about this event is it gets the campaign karl cameron in full-throttle motion. he's in the thick of it all. the best at it. delighted to say he joins us now from boston. karl, what can you tell us? >> reporter: hi, neil. it's massachusetts. there aren't supposed to be elections in january in massachusetts. this is an historic special election to fill ted kennedy's seat. it's raining. it's not sleeting or snowing like it was earlier today and there was question whether it would affect the turn-out but they're accustomed to that here so probably won't make much difference. the state officials watching
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this from the precincts report the traffic is heavy and there is a big turn-out looming. they won't put an exact figure on it but they say 20 to 30%. right now in the high 30s to low 40s. that is a big deal. it's a large turn-out and they say it will be just shy of 2 million out of the 4.2 million voters. so, all of this suggests that there is change in the minds of voters in the bay state. and in a state like this that is predominated by the democratic sort of chokeholds on power, change would mean the possibility of a republican. and martha coakley the democratic attorney general who had been leading the polls a month ago by 20 points plus now finds herself looking at polls that show a sistical dead heat -- statistical dead heat yesterday with the republican scott brown. a senate senator who has run an aggressive race. he got help from all over the country, and every corner of the bay state and coakley has been criticized by democrats in washington and in boston who says she hasn't worked as
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hard as she might skr and made tactical and personality type errors. too close to call going in as it almost always is in the final days of the races but the democrats are saying they're hopeful, that they think that martha coakley might be able to pull out a victory. and republicans saying they're not trying to be overconfident because the things that are used to measure the political hopes seem to be leaning toward him in the last few days. >> neil: normally in races like this, those are most to-dos, most galvanized to vote find a way to get out and vote. they're the ones that are jazzed. presumably, they're scott brown devotee. are you sensing that? are people telling you that? it's hard, i know, to glean from one district and polling place to another. but they'll walk over broken glass generally the ones who are really jazzed. what do you get from that? >> reporter: that level, yeah. that level of energized intensity is on the republican side in this race. you can contrast it fairly easy to 2008 when president obama would often boast we're
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the party, we're the candidate with enthusiasm on its side. that is what is happening with the republicans. and, heading in to election day, scott brown the republican looks to have a shot at about a fifth of the democratic vote. in other words, one out of every five democrats was willing to abandon coakley and look at scott brown. that is not truly the inverse. scott brown's republican vote is loyal. polling 95% for him and not any change-over. what is decisive is neither the republican or the democratic vote per se, in terms of the registered voters. it's the unenrolled voter or the independents in the state. 52% of the folks who vote call themselves independents and they switch their parties all the time. that's why they're independent. in the last few days, it's been running 60-40 for brown. if that holds through election die, that may be dispositive. it's part of what underpins a lot of republican confidence and a lot of democratic trepidation. >> neil: man, oh, man, karl you're an encyclopedia for good reason.
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there is karl and then there is everyone else. thank you, my friend. >> thank you. >> neil: karl cameron following what could be revolutionary happenings in the bay state. what if i told you today's election in massachusetts will essentially be decided in the big city? if history is any guide, we have on the phone, pollster david. what are the three cities and what are you watching for? >> these are the three cities like the commonwealth of massachusetts. we basically have fitzburg, gardner and peovonie. the three cities and town closely matched the statewide vote in similar elections in the past. and in all three of the cities and towns we have double-digit leads for scott brown. >> neil: now, how accurate a precursor have these been in the past, david? >> we designed bellwethers not to preticket margins but to predict outcomes. going back we've been doing
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this since 2006. going back to 2006, these bellwethers have been 96% accurate in predicting straight-up winners; that is, red versus blue. not necessarily margins of victory, but in the cases where they all agree, and in the cases where we've taken them right before an election within three days of an election, there has been 96% accurate predicting statewide outcome. >> neil: when are they not? >> excuse me? >> neil: when have they not? what was the 4% time or period -- >> in the presidential election it only happened one time. fresno county, which was the republican primary bellwether for california. >> neil: interesting. >> so, you know, it's not foolproof. it's not 100%. but it's been a pretty good indicator in the past. we've used these -- suffolk university used the bellwether in california, florida republican primary and we used them in ohio and indiana, new hampshire
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successfully, massachusetts, rhode island on and on. and throughout the country, the bellwethers have been remarkably accurate in predicting outcomes. in many states, the actual margins are close as well. >> neil: david, if you are right you're on to something that could be extraordinary and historic today. david pailologos, thank you. >> my pleasure. >> neil: we'll be all over the election results on the fox business network, too. the business implications are enormous. head to us at 9:00 p.m., eastern time for the special coverage. your healthcare, your taxes, your money. we have mitt romney joining us, the former governor there. we might have done imus. e he is a bit of a mercurial expert. if he feels like it, he will show up. if he doesn't, like groundhog day, you don't see him. meanwhile, the massachusetts race won't kill healthcare. democrats will. i want you to meet one of them who won't sign on to the party's plan "b." @=h
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the revenues stronger than expected. the sales, the company generated, but here is something that i watch very closely. the forecast the company makes, saying abroad, international sales were stronger than expected to the tune of 2% stronger than expected. you might say it's nothing to write home about. here is what is. it's the optimistic international sales will continue in that direction. the stock was already up 2% on the day. this could be, could be a good parameter for a lot of multi-national chos have been benefitting from the weaker dollar. they have business abroad. the weaker dollars means more dollars, translated back. it's helping ibm and it could be a good gauge for the economy. all right. elsewhere, back here, if scott brown wins, democrats have a backup plan to push healthcare bill through, including trying to get the house democrats to vote for the senate bill as is and make the changes later. steny hoyer today saying that the senate bill is better than nothing.
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my next guest disagrees with the health majority leader. this guy is a thorn in the side of his party, both parties. we love to have him. dennis kucinich. congressman, good to have you here. thank you for coming. >> good to be with you. >> neil: so your party essentially is tell i telling y vote for senate bill and trust us. what do you say? >> well, i'm a democrat, but i beg to differ with respect to the healthcare bill. i mean we're mandating that 30 million americans purchase private healthcare, give away to the insurance companies. $50 billion a year. do you know why people, why you have 47 million people who don't have health insurance? they can't afford it. just because you mandate it and then there is no control over premiums, does it mean they'll have the health insurance? >> neil: if nancy pelosi pulled you aside and says dennis, we need you on this one, because we will try to address the problems you have down the road. but half a loaf is better
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than no loaf. what is dennis kucinich saying? s>> they're my friends but i say no. >> neil: if you say, no they won't be your friends much longer. >> i don't choose my friends based on whether they agree with me. if i did i don't know if i'd have any friends at all. i think what we have to do is look at the fundamentals of this healthcare bill and that is that we're mandating that people buy private insurance. a give away to insurance companies. >> neil: that is how you feel. it's well articulated. but that is your view. do you think enough other congressmen agree with that to torpedo this idea of the house just accepting the senate plan? >> there are other issues. that could involve other members. 40% excise tax on the so-called cadillac healthcare plans, if if you are making
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$1,000 a month in healthcare benefits, that cadillac plan could cause you to pay an extra $414 a year in taxes, which translates for many people to 70-cent an hour wage cut. >> neil: the president is for it as long as it doesn't involve union guys. what do you think about it? >> we have to look at it broad-based. if it's in the senate plan, whatever the president cut with labor isn't going to work because we are talking about the senate bill. it's excise tax on everyone who would make over $8400 a year in healthcare benefits. 40% tax. >> neil: you are not budging on this. >> not budging, listen. do i want, do i want my constituents to take a wage cut, which is what this tax ends up being? if you have to give back money you par gan for in term -- bargain for in terms of benefits. i'm not going to stand for constituents to take a cut in wages. bad enough they're frozen now. >> neil: we'll watch it closely. dennis kucinich, good seeing
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you again. thank you. >> thank you. good to see you. >> neil: no pageantpageantry, j pizza. no free drinks either. republican chris christie said the days of big spending is over in new jersey. he proved it with inauguration parties today. are democrats getting it in washington? the times have chang. get the facts at remax.com. today, the dream of owning a home seems more attainable than ever. nobody sells more real estate than re/max. visit remax.com today.
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>> neil: no big gala and no black ties. the new governor chris christie, opting for a bash on a budget. the woman who once held his office did the same thing when she was inauguratinaugurat. and former governor christine todd whitman joining me on the phone. the governor save you a hug when he saw you in the crowd. had a tough message, austere message and he proved it by cutting down on a lot of the normal extravagants. what did you make of it? he's sending a real message
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this is chris christie, i grew up in new jersey and i know what the problems are like and we're in this together and will work on it starting from day one. this is what the administration will be like. meaner and leaner and it won't always be fun but we'll get the job done. >> neil: i quote your inaugural -- caught your inaugural addresses, governor, and i'm reminding that every incoming governor in any state he or she, red or blue, conservative or liberal wants to reach out to the other side. and without the other side bashing you. how long do you think the governor's overture to democratic leaders in your fine state, my state i should point out, with last? >> that is always questionable. i think there is a good desire to address the problem. everybody knows how bad the budget situation is in tate of new jersey and the taxes. they have to work with them.
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he has been making outreaches all along. there are splits within the democrats. so he has maneuverability here. >> neil: i don't want to read too much in everything he said. he pointed out heroes in the audience and were all stuff who did it on their own apart from the state government and apart from the government finance eni ttyities at all as if he said this is what i admire. anyone on the government i do not. or -- >> i think you are being harsh. i don't think he said he didn't admire people who work in government or what they did. >> neil: he didn't bring a government example up. >> no, because what he was trying to say is that what he does believe and i believe it, too, people can do it on their own without government interference. he understands that there is a role for government. the average person can't handle transportation or security. there are budget issues that are appropriate to be done by
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the state. but more can be done. individuals can make a difference and it will take us. if the government gets out of the way in many instances and lets the people in the entrepreneurs go to town, it's incredit whabl they can do. >> when we had a chance and you were kind enough to join me in the virginia races, you said the republicans have to be wise to spread out, reach out, expand. those who have been victorious of late and extension of scott brown there michigan, went to the ronald reagan not our way or the highway approach, but close to it. what do you make of that? >> that is a frustration of the partisan politics. you begin saying you will reach out and in hourous're bashed by the other side with
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partisan rhetoric, not policy rhetoric. but chris understands it. he has to work with the democratic legislature. they have a state in crisis. those things together make it eminently possible we can tone the rhetoric down and really see some positive action out of the state. >> neil: well, i tell you, governor, any guy who kicks off with chicken wings and pizza is all right in my book. good to talk to you. be well. chris m christie, garden state governor. is scott brown going to prove republicans wrong even more?
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>> neil: take a look at that. that is a gain today on wall street. betting that scott brown wins and healthcare loses, the dow climbing 115 point settles at 15-month high. the blue chips are up 300
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point of the new year. take a look at this. aetna, united healthcare, humana, a few of the stocks with healthy gains today. as you can see, up 4% plus in case of humana. 7% plus. what is going on here? >> this idea we're suddenly established it wi eed litmus te we're going to purge the party of anyone who doesn't agree with us 100%. that guarantees obama administration to win. you have to take up the independents and pick up the conservative democrats. >> the partly is broadly based on trying to move the party with the state parties forward and embracing everyone. >> neil: last year, the problems say the party had to coopt to win. the next guest says scott brown is saying you have to stick to the conservative core. my hats off to bill kristol, because he said a year ago when the republicans said become democrat light, he said no, get back to your
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knitting. the ones are victorious, true to your prediction, have been those who have. what do you make of that? >> that knitting has been conservative but also populist and inclusive. what republican presidential candidate got the highest percentage of the vote ever? in modern times. ronald reagan. not someone who went out of his way to be moderate or disguise his use but someone who respected the public and someone who didn't launch insane crusades. he wasn't barry goldwater. reagan is a different politician. >> neil: to be fair, ronald reagan tried in the first election angered the american public. a lot of what we have been seeing lately is anger and the other side is benefitting. how does it last? >> that is the key, channel the anger and frustration. channel the poplism toward conservative solution and ideas and understand that not everyone is going to become ideological conservative
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overnight. some of the poppist anger is legitimate -- populist anger is legitimate and some is targeted to friends of republicans, like the big bank for example. it's important the that the republicans are for capitalism. they shouldn't offend every sweet heart deal that benefitted from the taxpayer money and benefitting from another sweetheart deal. >> neil: that is more in the tea party thinking. >> the key to success is challenge tea party and welcome them in republican party and learn from them. saying it's too far and mistake. >> neil: i have had a lot say no, no, no. we're no longer republican. >> fine. scott brown ran as independent, man against the machine. he didn't say i'm a republican. he said i'm an independent thinker but mostly conservative and above all, i stand up against obama big government liberalism.
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a winning message in massachusetts, and a winning message tonight. i hate to jinx him. he was invite -- i was invited up by the campaign and i said i'm a jinx. i'm staying in new york. >> neil: you rate. i didn't even get invited to chicken wings or pizza. whether it's christie or virginia or what we could see unfolding in massachusetts, there is something of a trend. >> there is. christie, a good segment with them, and they need togone well. we can channel populist anger but if two years from now they're failures it won't help republicans or conservatives. >> neil: we couldn't make things worse is what they said with carter and they did. >> a lot resting on christie and mcdonald in virginia to be successful. but they have a good shot. brown is an amazing story with massachusetts. a final point, you had a chat with karl cameron about the
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turn-out. traditional view is lower turn-out is better than republican, scared of a big turn-out. i don't believe it. there will be a big turn-out in massachusetts and it will help scott brown. republicans are riding the populist wave. they shouldn't scared of having a lot of people vote. >> neil: bill kristol, listen to him now and pay attention to him later because what he says has a way of happening. >> nice. appreciate it. >> neil: three hours until the polls close. scott is feeling good and healthcare supporters are feeling bad. why? what if i told you that the better angle of scott and better angle for nancy. yeah, nancy. i'll explain it all. ( inspiring music playing )
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>> neil: you would almost think that scott brown was already in and healthcare reform was already out. because healthcare stocks are already shooting up, right? you took a peek at that. guests on the progress healthcare reform is going down, but be careful. i'm not saying that brown still might not be headed to washington. but do not assume that the democrats won't get their way
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on healthcare, whether he does or does not get to washington. they still have plenty of weapons because for now they have plenty of seats in the house and senate, too. enough to force simple majority vote in the senate for healthcare even if it gives republicans enough to get the house to vote on the senate plan. even if it gives some democratic congressmen fits. and enough to still try to pick off a moderate republican, even if it gives both sides fits. so many options, so little time. all i'm saying is healthcare reform is not dead. it's just not. i don't think it's even on the life support. even when the leaders want it badly and it could mean big party names this fall pay dearly. to a lot of guys, believe it oar not, it's bigger than these guys. this isn't a cause, but a mission. the vote, whatever deal with the devil they get, it's holy
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grail. think twice about things not going and looking healthy for healthcare. frankly, the worst things get for democrats, they never looked healthier for healthcare reform. all right. we're on the election night results. what happens may decide what happens to your health and tax bill for years to come. maybe set the stage for humanity as we know it. and the global environment as we see it. maybe everything mankind does from here on out will be judged by how the election works out. which is why we're going to have don imus on and mitt romney on and why we have surprising cast of characters on fox business network, which by the way, if you do not get -- >> demand it! >> neil: you know what to do. watch me. bret's okay, not making a big deal of it. he understands fbn is getting it done. bret and

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