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calculator. that's for the after the show show. >> steve: in the meantime, it's a snowy day. enjoy the news right here on fox. prisoner serving three life sentences, how he was able to get free is simply stunning, here he is, 26-year-old raymond taylor, put in the wrong cell with another inmate who was supposed to be released. taylor then pretended to be that guy and taylor walked out of prison t. happened at the maryland correctal -- correctional center, a supermax facility, now used to hold inmates awaiting court appearances or transfers. more on this developing story, a live report from the prison moments away here. in the meantime, one of the most powerful people in congress getting a slap on the wrist after his own colleagues say he broke the rules, house ethics panel admonishing congressman charlie rangel for accepting trips to the carribean from a private company, the new york democrat is chairman of
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the house ways and means committee, which means he's the most powerful tax writing lawmaker in congress. where is this story going to go? good morning, i'm bill hemmer on a friday morning. it's snowy out there. martha: good morning, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. rangel says he's done nothing wrong, here's the congressman defending himself late last night. >> common sense deck tates that members of congress should not be held responsible for what could be the wrongdoing or mistakes or regards of -- or errors of staff unless there's reason to believe that the member knew or should have known. asking me questions would just embarrass me because i can't give you answers. martha: if the member knew or should have known is what he said. rangel still faces ongoing investigations into other financial dealings, so not completely off the hook yet. bill: leading our coverage,
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caroline shively in washington. what did this reporter specifically find? >> reporter: staff provided false information to the ethics committee before they got approval for this trip and rangel basically should have known about it. here's the key line in the the report, quote, the committee does not find sufficient evidence to conclude that representative rangel had knowledge of the memorandum written by his staff, however the report finds representative rangel was responsible for the knowledge and actions by his staff in the performance of their official duties. here's more of rangel's reaction to that last night. >> i have to now deal with my lawyer as to what the hell do they mean that something is impudded, does it mean that no matter what a staff member does, if the member doesn't know it that the member could be charged, admonished publicly for it? >> rangel says he had no idea private companies were paying for the trip but peter flaherty with the national legal and policy center says he should have figured it out because of a photo that flaherty took, he
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went out and said the pod ul and banners around it were covered with sponsors. the congressional report says rangel will have to pay back the money and so will the five members who went with him on that junket but the report found other lawmakers and staff didn't know about the funding so ethically they're in the clear, bill. bill: this involves a trip to the carribean with a private company which is against the rules in the house but this is a small part of what the ethics committee is looking into, is it not? >> you're right, big ones are under review and hanging over the head of this man who is central to the health of the -- health of the tax debate in this country, on reporting taxes on a villa in the dominican republic, another, on an area in harlem and soliciting funds for a school of public service, named after him. those are things brewing. no word on an investigation, on when that will come down.
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bill: it's a developing story. carolyn shaif lee leading our story. martha: we are awaiting a news conference from sea world in orlando are with this week a killer whale dragged a veteran trainer to her death. so far the popular tourist spot said she intend to keep tili, the whale orca, but haven't decided whether this whale will perform again in front of audiences. families with kids watched in horror as this 12,000-pound whale pulled trainer dawn brancheau, who you see in an earlier moment while she was working with that whale and she was drowned in that tank. this marked the third time that tili had been involved in a fatality. later in the hour we're going to talk about whether keeping tili at sea world, even if he no longer intertains is a good idea or if it's a bad idea. bill: interesting to hear what they say at sea world. a saddenedding to a family's search for their
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son, also a well-known actor from the 1980s, the body of andrew koenig found thursday in a wooded section of a park in vancouver apparently dead from a suicide. he played boner on "growing pains", family and friends became concerned about his well being after he failed to return after a visit to vancouver. that's when they launched their own search for him, andrew koenig, son of walter koenig of star trek fame, walter said his son suffered from depression and asked people to find symptoms in themselves before it's too late. >> the many thing to learn from this, there are people out there that really care. you may not think so, and it may not be enough, but there are people who really, really care. before you take that final -- make that final decision, check it out again. bill: our best to the family. that is so sad and tragic. andrew koenig was only 41 years old. six minutes past, martha.
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martha: boy, it was a busy night on capitol hill and there are new details about a late night clash there that sparked an unusual outburst from a senior lawmaker. this fight is over several unemployment benefits that are going to expire this weekend if congress does not pass an extension of those benefits for people who are out of work today. but republican senator jim bunting staged a one-man filibuster last night to block a democratic bill that would extend benefits to those people, bunning wants an extension but wants congress to pay for it now, he doesn't want that extension to be added on top of everything else to the decifit. democrats went after bunning, demanding that he drop the objection to extending unemployment benefits. at one point, provoking the kentucky lawmaker to two a two -- to use a 2-word profanity, starting with a an s and ending with an t.
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stuart varney, an interesting expenses -- interesting exchange, and spending is the most controversial issue on capitol hill. >> there are two themselves involved in what senator bunning did last night. number one, 1.1 million people who currently receive unemployment benefits, they will be cut off this weekend because of senator benning's action yesterday unless it's reversed today in the senate. number two, perhaps more important, because of what senator bunning did late last night, doctors who treat medicare patients will receive 21 percent less of that treatment as of monday morning. this is a medicare alert, the american medical association has put the word out, there are many doctors who may refuse to treat seniors as of money because they're going to get 21 percent less for that treatment unless that is reversed in the senate today. what senator bunning last night is a very big deal. martha: indeed it is. he's not running for reelection, senator bunning
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has never been shy about letting his feelings be known and being obstin at on certain issues when he believes in them. this goes to a very significant point, what you're saying about medicare, stuart, because he's opening a can of worms here that was discussed at the health care summit yesterday, there was so much talk about insurance companies and how much insurance companies make but this is a central issue that's driving up health care costs. when medicare gets cut to the doctor, the doctors have to pass those cuts along somewhere else because they're not getting paid what they 1450 be getting paid by medicare because it has its own problems, right? >> that is precisely right. part of the senator's plan, with speaker pelosi and president obama, they call for huge cuts in medicare, if the cuts are imposed as you suggested, the doctors get less, the hospitals get less, they pass along those increased costs to them, they pass it along to private insurers, that's why private insurance goes up so much. senator bunning has opened,
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you're quite right, he's opened up a can of worms, he has exposed the results of serious cuts in doctors' reimbursements and it might just happen on monday. in fact, at the moment, it's scheduled to happen on monday, unless the senate reverses it today. i'm calling it a medicare emergency. i think it is. martha: i think you're very right about that, stuart. we're talking about $500 billion in medicare savings, that's the foundation by which the president said yesterday this is going to be decifit decifit-neutral because we're going to save all this money in medicare, this is the kind of instance that this money will be saved in. >> when we see the results, if the cuts to the doctors are imposed on monday and we see the results, can we really expect a half trillion to be cut out of medicare in the future under the president's plan? >> stuart varney, as always, good to have your insights, sir. bill: she's a monster, martha. martha: she is! bill: getting hammered for a second day, it might ab third day tomorrow, mother nature has not left anything
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out, slow -- snow, sleet, heavy rains, nearly a foot expected to fall in new york city alone. we've got 9 inches already, it's a mess out there, school is canceled in the big apple, that rarely happens and it's the second winter storm for the week. new jersey, maine, new york, up to 20 inches of snow, some people are looking at 20 inches on the ground now. the storm is doing a number on travel, 1500 flights have been canceled, call ahead if you're flying out today. this could have been epic, too. we were 2 degrees knot of the freezing level when the storm started. had we been below 32 degrees, we could have 2 feet of snow on the ground. as it is, we are 9 inches in the city. and the suburbs are getting hammered, too. martha: we're the worst one. this was a preparation for the other storms we had, this is the worst one and is supposed to go until tomorrow.
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bill: we've got that going for us. martha: indeed. wind was a major problem for the firefighters in hampton, new hampshire when a fire broke out on an old ocean front hotel. this is the aftermath. look at these pictures. an entire city block burned down when hurricane-force winds fanned the flames and spread embers from that hotel to other buildings. the hotel was not occupied at the time thankfully and fire crews were able to get others out of the buildings, so great work by the firefighters in hampton, new hampshire, but they were dealing with a lot of wind that made the firefighting very difficult. bill: great work as you say and well done. in a moment here, back to the health care summit, what did the highly anticipated canfab accomplish? -- confab accomplish? i'll ask about that next. martha: perhaps the best-known entertainer in vegas, and the police show up at his home. what is going on at wayne
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newton's house? ♪ she loves me like a rock ♪ loves me like a rock, oh baby, she loves me ♪
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>> the american people have told us they don't want to be forced to buy health insurance they don't want and can't afford and this is a significant issue across the country and the american people are telling us that the individual, the mandates, the requirements to buy insurance are something that they want us to scrap and start over on. and that's why you're seeing state legislatures around the country passing resolutions saying our citizens are going to have a choice. bill: so that was essentially the republican position. that was republican congressman david camp out of michigan on yesterday's health care summit. we want to know how it went yesterday, dave camp out of michigan, a ranking member of the ways and means committee, he's on the hill, sir, good morning to gliew
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hi bill. bill: we watched the whole thing, the whale seven -- whole 7 1/2 hours of it and i think it -- >> sorry about that. bill: it's okay, it's your job and our job, too. two words, sir: what now? >> i think we need to hear back from the american people. what we've been hearing is they don't like the bill that they've seen, they wanted us to try something new, we had an opportunity to get ideas out and we think we ought to bring costs down in health care while still giving people the kind of choice and flexibility they need and they want to get the kind of health insurance that they deserve. and we also think that we should address the issue of preexisting condition. there is probably the most common ground on that, however, we want to look at it in the context of an approach to health care reform that does not start and end in washington, d.c. bill: if you pick up any newspaper today, they seem to pick up on the same two angels in -- angle in every paper, the summit shows the difference of opinion and
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how wide apart the two sides are. take it from another angle, what does it mean to democrats if they do not get health care through? >> well, this has been their signature issue, they've invested a lot of capital and time on it, and i think americans want health reform, i just think it's what kind of relt reform -- health reform do theyant and -- want and should they have. i think the american people win on that, because they were able to see in a public forum what our ideas are. in the past we had the bills written behind closed doors, we had three days to look at them and it was a yes or no, take it or leave it approach. i think it was more important to see what sort of underlies these issues and now for us to hear back from them, but i think they want us to control costs and do it in a way that doesn't mean that the federal government determines, designs, creates and implements a health insurance plan for every american. bill: so you said twice now you want to hear from the american people. president obama in his
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closing remarks said he needs to hear from republicans. roll this and then i'll ask you about it. >> i'd like the republicans to do a little soul searching and find out are there some things that you'd be willing to embrace that get to this core problem of 30 million people without health insurance and dealing seriously with the preexisting condition issue. i don't know, frankly, whether we can close that gap. bill: is he right? >> well, that 30 million people, of course, half of that is an expansion of medicaid, which we know is an inadequate coverage for anyone, and i think that would not be an appropriate direction to go in, but i think that are we going to spend a trillion dollars, are we going to raise taxes by half a trillion, i think the answer is no, are we going to have an approach like theirs, i don't think that's the direction we can go in. bill: you're saying the gap will not be closed, then, do i hear that correctly?
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>> i think on the approach to health care, the gap cannot be closed, i don't think that having the secretary of health and human services take the control of health insurance from the 50 states and define and create and define what health insurance is for every american will bring down cost. i think that will mean a more expensive plan as the congressional budget office has evaluated, premiums will go up under the mandates that will come forward in a government -- a federal government-created health care plan. that's not going to help the american people. bill: it was a fascinating thing to watch. just a question on style for a moment. what was the republican strategy going in? it appeared every time mitch mcconnell or john boehner had a chance to refer to a specialist in this matter, they refer to or tom coburn or someone else in the room and karl rove had an interesting bit yesterday that republicans drilled on this, you practiced almost in debate form. is that how you got ready for yesterday? >> well, to get that many people together and practice
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is probably not what happened, but we did try to make sure that we didn't repeat ourselves and that we divided up the issues. and we did get together and discuss what issues we were going to cover and what we might say. but a debate practice is probably giving this more credit than we deserve. bill: dave camp, thank you for coming on. dave camp from michigan, thank you. martha: it is snow megaddon, the trilogy, i guess you could call it, right outside our windows here at fox news channel. it's pretty to look at it, to walk around it, not so pretty and it can get a lot worse, we're told, a massive noreaster, we've got power outages, a lot of travel issues you need to know about and what is still coming, after this.
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martha: we're back. it is nasty out there. i drove here in this, there are not that many people out there on the road but i was one of them this morning, and it's a powerful storm that is pounding the northeast. i can attest to that. i'm usually a naysayer about storms, this one is a doozy, okay? it makes a mess of the roadways and pretty much everywhere you want to walk, there's a lot of wind out there, a lot of downed power lines and a lot of heavy snow. on tree limbs, it looked like they were about to topple over and david lee miller is about 30 miles west of new york, in my home state of new jersey, in lovely morristown, dawning his -- donning his favorite
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snow hat and telling us what's going on. >> reporter: good morning, indeed morristown is beautiful to behold this morning, take a look off in the distance, you can see the town square covered in snow, it looks like a scene from a norman rockwell painting of new england but as you point out there are dire consequences to this storm. let's go to videotape shot earlier in new york city, because this is such a heavy snow, a tree limb in central park collapsed and when it did it took the life of a 67-year-old man, also a tree limb in new york city fell, falling on a commuter bus. we are told there have been three storm-related deaths in the last 24 hours. also, because of the storm, over 600,000 people are without power. this now, again, because of some very high winds in new hampshire. there was a wind gust, listen to this, it clocked at 91 miles an hour, a hurricane-force wind is
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74 miles an hour, and bottom line, martha, underscoring just how serious authorities are treating this storm, new york city mayor michael bloomberg repeatedly said school would not be closed, school would be open today, if kids want to make -- want to take a vacation, they should go to school and later in life, enjoy the vacation, but this was not the time, this morning at 5:00 a.m., all that changed, new york city officials said forget it, kids, you can sleep in. martha: i respect how tough mayor bloomberg is on not having too many snow days but today, there was no question. they can have a little vacation, get out there and play. david lee miller, thank you very much. bill: you're usually a lead foot. martha: i was like a grandma driving to work today. bill: that's pretty smart. martha: the only way to do it. bill: scott is driving home from feld, that is a live look inside his car, he has made it into new jersey, southern jersey, sometime later today we expect him to arrive in new york city but he's driving back to get his
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work underway in new york and this is his only option, so scott, be careful out there, i'm sure you will, do not be a lead foot. martha: i won't. at least it's light -- at least there's light out there. when it's black, with it beating against your windshield, that's always an amazing thing, and you can go to our website and check it out,, send us pictures at fox news.cole. you may just see pictures of yours that you take on our air here. bill: about a week ago, we were 40 degrees in new york and blue skies and they thought -- we thought it's spring? martha: not so much! bill ill bill in a moment, a serious story,sy a dangerous criminal, supposed to spend the rest of his life behind bars. how -- how did raymond taylor walk out of a baltimore prison last night? we are live on the scene of a man hunt underway when we get back. martha: and things get pretty interesting when two former presidential
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candidates spend many hours together in one room. check this out. >> john, we're not campaigning anymore, the election is over. >> i'm reminded of that every day. martha: ouch. that was an ouch moment yesterday. and the president says that lawmakers should handle the future of health care overhaul, and they were working that out yesterday, but man, there's a lot of news on that front today and are they going to go for are they going to go for this reconciliation?
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bill: breaking news on a man hunt. try and figure this one out, a dangerous prisoner who simply walked out the door of a former supermax prison, the prison is saying 26-year-old raymond taylor acted as if he was another inmate, an inmate who was scheduled to walk free. he's not someone you want to mess with, he's serving three life sentences for attempted murder, and james rosen is at the jail in baltimore. what is the latest now, james? good morning. >> reporter: good morning, bill. the latest is that raymond taylor remains at large and state and local law enforcement have undertaken a massive man hunt in search of him. here was a very first mistake that law enforcement authorities and correctional authorities made. they placed raymond taylor, who was only scheduled to be here for a few hours for a court appearance in baltimore, he was out in cumberland, maryland at the supermax facility there, they placed him in a cell with an inmate named william johnson who was scheduled to be released yesterday. the commissioner of corrects has admitted that that was a violation of procedure, and a, quote, mistake.
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guards came to look for johnson around 1:00 yesterday, raymond taylor stepped forward when they asked for william johnson. three times, he was able to recite william johnson's inmate number, he presented william johnson's inmate card which had a photograph on it, two separate guards looked at that photograph and concluded that he was, that raymond taylor, was william johnson and according to one correctional officer, quote, they do resemble one another. almost two hours elapsed, bill, before the correctional authorities released the -- realized the grievous error they had made. only then when johnson started kicking at his door and demanding to be released, he, william johnson, remains in custody, he is being questioned along with other inmates. they do not suspect collusion in raymond taylor 's escape, if you will, on the part of any of the guards, and as i say, state and local law enforcement have continued their man hunt today. bill: he is cagey. it's my understanding he was in jail, three life
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sentences for trying to kill his girlfriend and her two children. have they had contact with those people, and what kind of a threat might he pose to ordinary citizens, james? >> reporter: well, there's no question this is a very dangerous individual, bill. back in august of 2004, raymond taylor shot his ex-girlfriend and her two teenage girls, essentially put them on the head board of a bed and shot them at very close range. for give you a sense of the sort of nature of this crime, we'll read to you a quote from a spokeswoman with the baltimore state's attorney's office who said, and i quote, he was convicted of a chilling execution-style attempted murder. only by the grace of god these victims survived. they suffered lasting long-term injuries, unquote. we understand that law enforcement personnel who are taking a lead in the search have been dispatched to the home of taylor's ex-girlfriend, they are being questioned to assist in the investigation as bell. bill: james rosen, good
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reporting, breaking news story in baltimore, maryland. thank you james, bring us the details when you get them. martha: well, it was cozy in there, they spent nearly eight hours together in one room, and at the end of it all, president obama made his point very clear, if they can't work out, quote, some decisions -- can't work it out, quote, decisions will have to be made? >> if we can't, i think we've got to go ahead and make decisions and that's what elections are for. we have honest disagreements about the vision for the country and we'll go ahead and test those out over the next several months until november, all right? martha: all right. so make decisions and go forward. let's bring in a.b. stoddard, always good to see you. >> thank you. martha: everybody sat up and took notice, he basically said we're going to get this through and let the people decide in november. >> i think that's right. i think the democrats have made the decision, martha,
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including the white house and all the way up to the president, that inaction will be far more costly for them thanralling through a massive bill on a partisan vote. they just have decided that with majorities in the house and senate, and a democratic president in the white house, the democratic party will look like a divided party that cannot govern, so they've come to the conclusion. do they have the votes is the question, no. if they had the votes, they would slap the votes on the house of the -- floor of the house and senate and get it done and they're going to have to figure out if they can pull that together. martha: as you heard the president, as he walked from the blair house to the white house, he said i've got a plan, i've always got a plan, and we heard about plan b, a much scaled-down version of this and there was reporting by politico saying huh-uh, they want to put through the, quote, big plan, according to their sources. are we talking about the big plan here, the 2400 page
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plan that was sitting in front of eric kantor or the much scaled-down plan b? >> we're talking about the big plan. right now they're going big, but i think instead of going birck -- big or going home, they decided at the white house, discreetly, they have to have a backup plan, they have to have this, quote, skinny plan b. the problem is the liberals don't like it in the congress, it's not going to pick up republican support, probably, and the question is how do you find the votes. i think they want to go with the massive bill, they want to go with comprehensive overhaul, even though it's unpopular in public opinion polls, and i think that they've drawn a plan b because there are different camps who believe, chief of staff rahm emanuel among them, that this should have done this all along, to give older children or young adults the chance to stay on parents' insurance and medicaid, at least cover some people in a less costly way -- >> martha: but that's plan b that you're talking about and that's a pretty different bill. >> very different.
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martha: yes. i want to take a look at what john mccain said because everybody is out on the morning shows as well. let's take a look at that and i want to get your response to that. >> we are ready to work on a number of issues with the president, but we want to do it step by step. we don't want the budget gimmick that gives you six years of benefits for ten years in taxes. i mean, that's crazy. that is just -- that's -- martha: he's talking about the extraordinary amount of spending it would take, not to mention the fact we haven't had a real explanation of how on earth you're going to cut $500 billion in medicare spending. we're already seeing the ramifications of what that ends up doing. plan b might be -- you don't have it scored yet. is it a lot cheaper, is this a significantly smaller, slimmer thing? >> it hasn't been officially scored but it's supposed to be about a quarter of the price, so that's $250 billion. again, that would have to be scored by the congressional budget office. it's an interesting question. of course we can't afford
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the bill at hand. i mean, they can pretend -- they can say the congressional budget office says that it saves 150 billion over the long term, but the thing is, they're delaying all of the pain, all of the tax cutting, until 2018. they're putting it on another president and another congress. we know that in future years, no new congress and no new president is going to want to take on this cut in what we forecast to be be continued deficits and the painful fiscal times ahead. so it's interesting what john mccain is raising. if you look at the way the democrats are taking the jobs bill now, they decided not to do a big package, martha, they decided they didn't want to get beat up up on a big package, they're going to do it piecemeal and it's interesting, on health care, they're afraid to do that. i don't know why they don't do that, they're doing it on their agenda and take it piece by piece, calling on republicans, do you support this one provision, will you come on this one bill probably sounds like a better strategy, but they've
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decided to go big. martha: as the president says, we'll see what the american people think about that going big plan come november and that will be the multimat sort of reaction to what's happening here. a.b., always good to see you, thank you very much, have a good weekend. bin laden bill that stalemate over health care taking a toll on the president's image, check out this poll, 62 percent of americans think the president is better at campaigning, 17 percent think he's better at governing, 11 percent of those bowled -- polled say they think he's good at both martha: interesting numbers. we have some never seen before images to show you from deep space. we love look at that stuff. isn't nature amazing? what scientists say is shooting out of saturn's moon. there is something shooting out of saturn's moon, and why it matters to us on earth, bill. bill: we humans here, all 6 billion of us. we are awaiting a news conference from sea world, after the death of this trainer on screen, tourists
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were there to watch this, this morning, a marine expert tells us why keeping tili at sea world is a bad idea.
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martha: we are getting new details about a violent taliban attack in the heart of kabul, a crew of five homicide bombers, five, targeted an area in the capitol city where several guest houses where foreigners are located, at least 17 people in all of this were killed, including several indian nationals. afghan president hamid karzai is condemning these attacks, he says they will not affect relations between afghanistan and india. bill: we are waiting on a news conference out of sea world in orlando where a killer whale dragged a veteran trainer underneath to her death this week. so far the popular tourist spot saying it intends to keep tili, all 12,000 pounds
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of him, but has not decided whether or not the whale will perform in front of people again. wednesday's tragedy unfolding before tourists, some of them with children in tow, watching in horror as the 12,000-pound whale pulled the trainer -- pulled the trainer, dawn brancheau, into the tank, drowning her. my guest believes tili does not belong at sea world. good morning to you. what would you do with tili now? >> i'd like to suggest a fairly radical option to sea world. perhaps they could retire tilikum, that's his full name, to a sea pen in the real ocean and basically give him more options, more space, and more choices in his life. i feel like he's under a lot of stress where he is now, in that small space. socially, he's sort of not being adequately maintained, and so i think that retiring him might be something they'd like to consider. bill: retirement.
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you're strongly opposed, i understand, to the idea of euthanasia, you say putting this whale down is wrong. why is that? >> this isn't tilikum's fault, it didn't dawn branch eau's fault, it's the fault of the circumstances he's in, it's unnatural to hold these animals in captivity, they're very large, they're very complicated socially, they're very intelligent, they have strong family bonds. everything about that tank at sea world is artificial and unnatural. so it is the circumstances that have caused this tragedy. sea world has to change his circumstances. bill: we'll find out at 1:00 maybe some answers to that but you mentioned social animals. these killer whales are social animals, tili spends up po three days at a time by himself. i imagine any creature may be agitated by that. who knows what his mentality was on monday. killer is one of 13 whales either at orlando or in san
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diego. this mammal is money, that's my point. >> yes, and i think that's a very good point to make and unfortunately, i hear that it will affect the decisions that are made. it should be made solely based on his well being and the safety of the people at sea world and i don't think this is his usual and seeing him simply as a breeding sire is the proper way to approach this. i understand they're thinking about perhaps keeping him out of the shows and keeping the trainers farther away from him. if he stays in that color, that's a terrible option, because then he becomes even more socially isolated, his well being i think decreases. bill: this creature is huge. i haven't seen him in person, but he's the star of the show and when he makes a slash, man, he makes a slash. >> he literally makes a slash, yes. bill: how do the trainers adjust to how they interact with this killer whale, what will they change, what can they change? >> well, they don't do any
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in-water work with him and they haven't because he was involved in two previous deaths, and he had clearly demonstrated he couldn't be trusted with a person in the water with him, so they did no in the water work with him but from the video i saw, they did get into a ramp, on to a ramp that allowed them to submerge up to the waist or beyond. and so that's how he pulled the trainer into the water, because she was, in fact, wading in pretty deep water and i think they're going to have to stop that, and therefore, that direct contact is going to have to become even less so, and again, he'll become very isolated that way. bill: i apologize for the interruption. tili was not born in captivity. >> no, he was captured. bill: why not release him into the wild? is that possible? >> i'm not sure. he's been in captivity for 27 years, he's an older male, i'm not saying his personality could become independent again but it would have to be done gradually and what may in
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fact be better for him and it would be his choice, the retirement situation. the star of free willy, that's what we did with him, we retired him, he became semi-free, he was not fully independent, he was cared for, but he had so many more option, so much more stimulation and that's that's -- maybe that's what tilikum needs. bill: you're a great guest, thank you very much, we'll go to sea world live at 1:00, during "america live" today with megyn delle -- kelly. you got something around your head that's not quite clear in hemmer at and twitter on bill hemmer, because you asked, bya, and next hour, a great question as it relates to washington. naomi, thank you for that. martha: protecting our borders by mixing new high tech and the old west. how do they do that? adam housely in tucson, with that. >> reporter: martha, the
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southern arizona desert is rugged, it's beautiful. try racing through it on horseback, chasing down drug smugglers. we went along with the horse team while using high tech equipment here in the southern arizona desert, and that story is coming up live on fox.
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bill: that's a very young wayne newton. sing it, buddy. is the las vegas entertainer on hard times? debt collectors were turned away from the 3800-acre in las vegas, refused entry by the guards. the matter goes to court where a judge last year ruled that newton owed his former pilot more than
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$400,000 in back pay. martha: not a good idea not to pay your pilot. bill: no response yet from newton or his lawyers. martha: look at those gates. only in vegas would you see gates like that in front of your house. all right, the u.s. border patrol on track to break a record of marijuana seizures this year, half of the marijuana seizures this year were caught in the tucson, arizona region where agents are combining 21st century technology with a little something out of the old west that works actually quite well. adam housely went on patrol with these agents, which sounds like an awfully fun assignment and joins us from tucson in the beautiful saguaro national park. >> reporter: it's beautiful out here. you mentioned the exploding numbers of marijuana, they're being brought through, many smugglers coming through the desert like this. on fox we have ridden any way you can with the border patrol, on air, in suvs,
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atvs, but this rarely gives you a peek on horseback as they use the old west with the high tech equipment to track down human traffickers and drug smugglers. as the sun begins to set on a remote part of the sonoran desert, agents saddle up, take the reigns and head out for a night on america's southwest border. >> nothing beats chasing them on a horse. >> brian reed runs the horse patrol, he says the team mostly rides at night when the dark provides cover for drug smugglers and illegals trying to sneak into the united states. >> somebody has to get them and that's where we come in. >> working with technology like this mobile system which employs a radar, gps and night vision, they get track on the drug smalllers and rush through the sage brush and mesquite to make the capture. >> the horse is out of the trailer, the officers are on top of the mount and they
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captured three men with seven packs. >> the haul, about 350 pounds of drugs, and a street value of more than $250,000. >> the border patrol is trying to do the perfect mix between technology, manpower and infrastructure. >> now, horse teams are spread from texas all the way to california, the aho team isn't the only one and they hope to add more riders and horses in the coming months. martha: thank you, adam housely. check out to see exclusive video from that report that didn't make it to the air. there's a lot of good stuff that ends up on the cutting room floor, right, bill, at fox bill: we learn that every day, don't we? in a moment, breaking news on a governor who decided moments ago that he is done, not running for reelection. details on that, minutes away, right here on "america's newsroom".
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. martha: starting off the top of the hour with a big "fox news alert," "the new york post" and mulitple sources, reporting governor david paterson will not seek re-election. this is a big development, and that announcement is expected 11:30 a.m., this morning. he is reportedly -- has been involved in all kinds of things and there were rumors and all kinds of stories floating out there about other women and drugs and he denied all of that and there has been little support for his gubernatorial re-election campaign and people waiting in the wings, including andrew cuomo, whose father was governor of new york for manners many years and now the race, tor governor of new york looks to be more open and we'll tell you about the developments of that, the news conference is coming up later this morning.
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and what's the highly anticipated bipartisan health care summit. now, it is in history books and now that the dust settled the focus is shifting back to capitol hill. the stakes ash astronomical in the, folks as democrats and republicans are trying to weigh their next move, on the highly emotional issues of health care reform in the country, and that starts off a brand new hour of "america's newsroom," good morning on this friday, i'm martha maccallum. bill: and i'm bill hemmer and we both made to it work today. martha: we did. bill: and it it wasn't easy, the president saying installing democrats may move forward on the health care overhaul with or without republican support and republicans are not shutting the door on the possibility of negotiations, where we start. martha: and jim angle joins us live, jim, six hours back and forth and we watched it and at the end of it all you ask yourself, where are we now? >> that is what everyone is asking, martha. it's not clear, this morning,
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after republicans offered a lot of ideas they argued should be include and doesn't do comprehensive reforms well and it should be thrown out and, start fresh and the president made clear something will happen soon, one way or the other. >> president barack obama: is there enough serious effort that in a month's time or a few weeks' time or six weeks' time, we could actually resolve something? and if we can't think we have to go ahead and make decision and that is what election are for. -- election are for. >> reporter: the public opinion polls, the president argues, a substantial margin of the public opposes the democratic plan and minor changes over the few weeks will not be enough. >> it will not be possible with that kind of an approach to come together in the timeframe that he indicated, if he insists, as senator mcconnell said, i'm
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starting with the 2700 page bill and then, tweaking it, to adopt some of our ideas. >> reporter: democrats seem ready to press ahead with or without republican support, or ideas. martha? martha: and it will be up to the democratic lawmakers, basically, either they'll say, have to convince the rest of their own party, they need to start over, or, they are going to take on the behemoth of a bill. what does it looks like, plan b or the big plan, as it is known. >> reporter: it is confused at the moment. look, you may have noticed president obama was listening intently to republicans, maybe in part to challenge republican arguments and some of the democratic lawmakers wouldn't even look at the republicans who were talking, and weren't much more interested in their ideas, after the talks ended. >> first of all, the most patient man in the world is barack obama. he sat through that and listened to everything, and was so patient. and, responsive. it was an issue-oriented meeting. the president let everybody talk
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and talk and talk. >> i'm hopeful that something may come of it. i'm not openly optimistic we'd get republican votes to the bill but that doesn't mean we couldn't incorporate some of their good ideas, into legislation, should they put some on the table. >> reporter: president obama analogied there are a lot of republican ideas already on the table and seemed open to some but it's not clear how they'd be incorporated into legislation without starting over. keep in mind, congressional democrats have not yet even agreed to the changes the president himself proposed. also, the house and senate have major unresolved differences, between them and that is the biggest obstacle so far, getting democrats in the house and senate to agree with one another and martha, there are many rivers to cross before final legislation, much less passage of final legislation. megyn: and according to the president they have six weeks and we know you will -- guess what you are doing for the next
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six weeks, jim. >> reporter: the stop watch is going. bill: and a developing story from the hill, controversial language, stripped from the proposed house intelligence act. the wording would have called for cia agents to be prosecuted and sent to prison for up to 15 years for using certain interrogation tactics. and that started a firestorm that put the bill in jeopardy, molly henneberg is live in washington now and what did the language in the bill say? >> reporter: bill, as you were saying the cia officers could face criminal punishment for using harsh tactics during interrogation of suspects, and terror suspects, and up to 15 years to life in prison if a detainee died as a result of the interrogation and it was authored by democratic congressman jim mcdermott and introduced into the broader house intelligence authorization bill on wednesday night, by intel committee chairman, democrat siylvester reyes and entered it's a manager's amendment and said it applied,
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to quote, any officer or employee of the intelligence community, who engaged in, quote, cruel inhumane and degrading treatment and it would have given congress years to define what cruel and inhuman means and supporters say it would have enforced anti-torture lawses. bill: republicans opposed it enmasse, did they, and some democrats, vigorously opposed it, too? how did that break down. >> reporter: yes, enough that they felt like it was out at the last minute and it was done in a sneaky way, and the democrats, actually the republicans and the democrats, who supported them, managed to get the bill pulled off of the floor last night and that language has now been stripped. republican congressman max thornbury tells fox it is a topsy-turvy land where we forget who the good guys and the bad guys are and an intelligence insider tells fox the initial proposal was, quote, a head-scratcher since president obama signed an executive order over a year ago banning the cia from using enhanced
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interrogation techniques anyway. bill: where do we stand now? what happens to the bill, molly? >> reporter: right. there is still the bigger house intelligence authorization bill and they are discussing the rule which governs what is related to the bill now and the bill minus the controversial cia language should be voted on later this morning. bill: watch it for us, molly henneberg live, in washington. martha: this crossing the wires, we told you about this 26-year-old raymond taylor, good news, he has now been recaptured. we are told he's in west virginia and they'll figure out how to get him back to maryland and he freenldpretended to be a inmate aconvinced the guards tht he was that guy, and he was involved in an unbelievably heinous act, when he tried to murder his girlfriend and a family member and they sustained
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long lasting injuries and thank goodness he's back in the hands of the police. bill: and bizarre how he got out in the first place, it is not supposed to happen this way. and the economy, martha, taking the temperature, a significant indicator out this morning, new home sales falling 7.2%, in january. the second straight month of big declines, and results far worse than forecast and economists expected a slight increase in new home sales and we saw a little of this indicator of that number a few days ago. and this week we have seen the biggest drop in new home sales in a year, and a firm housing market recovery, seen as crucial, to the economic reality, and we talked about that time and time again here, and that is not a good number for the housing economy, here in the u.s. more on that. martha: remember grandma... grandma was right and the second half of a 1-2 winter punch is slamming the northeast, high winds, 50 miles an hour in somes and that is problematic and the
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snow is all over the branches on the trees and, resulted in the death of a 67-year-old man in a park and power outages an tenses of thousands of people, left without -- and tens of thousands of people left without power, and jim joining us from weather center and it is still winter but the question now, how much longer will it last and when is the light at the end of the tunnel. >> reporter: we have a few weeks to go and it looks like we'll be into the snowy pattern for the next several weeks. yes. the ground hog was right and the ground hog does not have to forecast snow totals. we have to do that and we want to see your "you report" pictures in new jersey and you got the bull's-eye of the snow and look at the snow totals in parts of upstate new york's 36 inches, new york city, central park, 16.9, and, some of these have yet to be added up again, some of the totals were in at 7:00 a.m. and we'll update the snow map as we go further, out
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throughout the day today. and give you the blockbuster storm totals, winds were just relentless across portions of maine and new hampshire and we are looking at wind gusts in excess of 40 miles per hour. for new york's la guardia, the good news is, the storm, well, good and bad news and the storm will hang around but we will not see snow totals we have seen overnight. however the low pressure system, 800 miles wide, this is huge. is going to kind of sit and spin itself out. over the next 24 to 48 hours, and look at the storm. it is just so impressive. baltimore, ocean city, atlantic city, still seeing snow. new york, see that spin! really well! just awesome, in terms of meteorology, we like to look at these storms, not so awesome for people breaking their backs trying to shovel it. upstate new york, pennsylvania, northern new jersey, southern new york, will get several inches on top of the incredible amounts you have seen so far and
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yeah, 1-3, 6, even 12 inches for the higher elevations, across the appalachian and up towards new england and so not over yet and the weekend it here and kids will be happy and parents, maybe not so much. martha, back to you. martha: fire up movies and popcorn and hope that the snow is -- snow on the branches, one of the biggest concerns we are watching. >> it is very deep. martha: janice, thank you very much. bill: congratulations, janice, you were right. does it make you feel good. >> that i was right? i have to say this: i feel for local forecasters, because i have to admit, we weren't predicting this amount of snow for new york city. central park. so, we got more snow totals in central park and some areas got less and it's hard and the local forecast, my heart goes out to them because i have to do the national weather and that is pretty vague, and i'm lucky. martha: the local folks, you want to know, what will happen at 3:00 today, right. >> it is hard. hard. not an exact science, as they say. bill: in a moment, back to one of our top stories, talk of
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punishing cia agents who used harsh interrogation tactics on suspected terrorists, we'll talk the to a leading lawmaker about that and whether it this is right course of action. martha: he's way too young to drive but apparently didn't top a young boy from taking a bus for a joyride. >> and old faithful, saturn style, these remarkable new images from deep in outer space, what it means for the human here's on planet earth. michio kaku on deck. ♪
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and now consider the strong possibility, the same kid, age 13 did them both. not smart. not cool. martha: chaos on the floor of the house of representatives last night. did you hear about this? republicans accuse democrats of trying to sneak language into intelligence authorization bill to establish criminal punishment, 15 years, of jail time, for cia agents who took part in harsh interrogations and the bill back on the table without the language but that's damage been done? and how did happen in the first place, michigan republican mike rogers is a member of the house intelligence committee and has a long, long life of experience, in intelligence, and, good to have you with us, today, representative. >> thanks for having me, appreciate it. martha: tell everybody what happened here and basically there was language put into this, that would have allowed -- called the cruel and inhuman
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degrading -- prohibiting -- cruel and inhuman act of 2010, i completely mangled that. excuse mean, but the idea is that it would prevent any of the kind of harsh interrogation ac takes we heard about it and if they did, they could get 15 years. >> and you couldn't mangle it close to what the law would have done to our ability to collect intelligence and carves out a special law just for cia and intelligence community officials up to 15 years for crazy things, undefined, what does that mean? if you play on their phobias, blasphemy their religion, does it mean if we send a jewish fbi agent in to interview an al-qaeda person they can accuse the person of blasphemy for his religion or he is shaven, or is made -- we have lots of great women interrogators, the cia and fbi, and that would also, we'd assume, qualify for blasphemy and these interrogators will go
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to jail for 15 years and this is what happens, when you get confused about who the good guys and who the bad guys are. martha: we've heard of this for time and eric holder wanted to investigate these people and we haven't heard about that in recent months and he has been busy with a lot of other things but the fact that some other democrats came to the aid of pointing out the provision, of the bill and said we will not sign this, if it will put the cia agents, who spend their life career protecting our country, in the position where they could be doing jail time for carrying out something they were told to do? >> yes. and this is really a repudiation of this administration's new push to law enforcement centered fight on terrorism. when you make that switch, when you go from a -- an intelligence approach, get them where they train, where they recruit, versus a law enforcement approach, meaning, hey, let's catch them at the gate, at the airport, all kind of murkiness and confusion ensues. and, one of them is, you start
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believing that cia interrogators are doing these awful, awful things, and, maybe should go to jail for 15 years. and they are still going after the cia officers, by the way, martha and that story needs to be told. they are aggressively pursuing, these families' lives are on hold and people who took a department of justice legal recommendation, and went and interrogated people at the government's behest and now are being prosecuted and treated like criminals, and it is unconscionable. 70% of what we know of al qaeda, their operations and how they recruit came out of those interrogation and why on god's green earth would we go after these individuals and treat them, better and the terrorists trying to kill us like the christmas day bomber. unbelievable. martha: i want to follow-upen 0 that in the future with you, representative, as you said, it is making the lives difficult of families of people who have kept us safe over these years and thank you for your service, in intelligence and for your service in the congress, and good to have you with us today. we'll talk to you again, soon.
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thank you, sir. >> hope so, thanks. bill: onto health care, wondering about reconciliation and the nuclear option, the only way to pass health care and did president bush ever use the reconciliation method? because you asked on that and we'll get you an answer and name the record-breaking 10 billionth song downloaded from itunes. martha: what was it? bill: you'd never guess! after this. want to know how fast it took my stiff joints to feel better? one pack. 6 days. that's elations. new elations. clinically proven to improve joint comfort... in as little as six days.
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bill: my dad! martha: a 71-year-old grandfather downloaded the tune, and he won the countdown to 10 billion con texas apple's ceo, steve jobs called louis, the man from georgia, got a call from steve jobs, you are number 10 billion and awarded him a $10,000 itunes gift card! bill: cool stuff. martha: are there that many songs in the world, $10,000 gift card, the hit "i guess things happen that way" by who other than that man, the wonderful johnnie cash, a ballad about a man who last the woman he loved and there are a number of songs with that subject. bill: i've heard it before. martha: he says his grandchildren will most likely use the gift cards! bill: well done! 71. good for him. martha: yeah! bill: we are on the job hunt this morning, martha, where business is booming at the porth mouth naval shipyard, getting -- portsmouth taking on 50 new workers, adding to the 4400
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civilian workforce and the navy appropriating $14 billion for ship building in 2010 and at portsmouth they are gearing up for the big job of maintaining the state of the art fleet of va class attack submarines and molly line is live in kitering, main and now important is this yard to the economy? i think it is huge. >> reporter: certainly is, the center of the economy, the center of the community, here, and it was built in 1800 and generations of families have worked here, and building ships that have fought everything from pirates, to world war battles, to -- and today are repairing submarines and that is the key mission and there are 4400 people that work here, in the midst of a hiring surge and hired 475 people last year and more to come in 2010. to talk to us about it, captain brian fuller the commander, here on base and what sort of jobs are you looking for. >> we are hiring all types of jobs. we are hiring craftsmen and women to do ourship building, welding, pipe fitting, electricians, electronics, engineers, engineering technicians an administrative
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people as well. >> reporter: and these are highly skilled jobs and craftsmen and technical jobs and in may we see seasonal jobs and these are long term and with benefits. >> absolutely, skilled people we hire to do the work on the submarines we do and are definitely long term employees. >> reporter: talk about what it means to the community. >> we have been part of the community since 1800 and they have been building shi ing ship region since the 1600s and is in the blood here and we have always been a part and generation of folks have worked here, 3rd, 4th, maybe 5th generation and we are part of the community and excited to be part of the community. >> reporter: captain, thank you so much for giving us a little insight into what is happening at the portsmouth naval shipyard, interested in those jobs, go to bill: they'll get a lot of applications, starting now, thank you, molly line. martha: great story. bill: what is coming up. martha: it could be six weeks until reconciliation gets us a new health care system in this
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bill: breaking news this hour, two significant stories, first off, raymond taylor, 26 years old, in prison serving three life sentences, has been caught. he escaped from a prison near baltimore, late yesterday and has been found in west virginia. it is stunning to figure out how he got out of jail in the first place, he faked like he was an inmate set for release and they believed him and showed an inmate's i.d. card and off he walked, scott free and good news now and also for his former girlfriend and their two children. he was convicted for attempted murder, for all three of them. now, back in custody in the state of west virginia. martha. martha: a leave, and there is big political news to tell you about this morning. multiple reports now, that the
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new york governor david pater n paterson, lieutenant governor and took over for eliot spitzer wanted to be elected in his own right, plans to announce according to the reports that he will not seek re-election. we expect to it come at 11:30 this morning, paterson as been reportedly involved in all kinds of things, rumors about allegations, sexual allegations and drug allegations and has denied them all and now there is a rest recent scandal involving a top aide and i will not go into detail about it now, but reportedly he will now not run which opens the field for a number of people anxious to become the governor of new york, and andrew cuomo among them. bill: and so then, you ask, now, what? democrats ready to drive to the end zone on health care reform, they say, and, some democratic lawmakers signalling they might be ready to move forward without republicans and maybe using the process called reconciliation. also known naas a nuclear optio
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and is a big gamble for the party and midterm elections around the corner, and a poll says americans don't support the bill they've seen thus far from the house and the senate and that, now... brings up the bya, because you asked, when you hear the clips of hillary clinton, president obama and vice president biden, talk about reconciliation, did president bush ever use reconciliation? we wanted to know and wendell goler lived through those years, live on north lawn, did he, wendell? >> reporter: in fact he used it five times, bill, reconciliation was part of a 1974 congressional budget act, the product of a democratic congress signed by former president richard nixon a month before he resigned and the idea was to make it easier to reduce the budget deficit or make it more difficult for block to effort by banning the use of filibuster and president carter used it in 1980 and has been used 21 times since and until
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george w. bush was elected it was used to reduce the budget deficit and mr. bush, who inherited a surplus, used it in the tax cuts of '01 and '03 which added 1 3/4 trillion dollars to the budget. bill: it all had to do with economic matters and that is where the rubber hits the record and republicans say, it's not reserved for this piece of legislation, and robert byrd the long serving democrat out of west virginia takes that side as well and i have a note that democrats have changed the rules, to bar this in the future? have they? how so? >> reporter: senator byrd in 1985 won a prove of a -- approval of a passage that bans the use of reconciliation, for matters extraneous to the budget process and there is leeway in deciding what is extraneous and what is germane, welfare reform in $1996 passed under reconciliation, under the theory it would reduce the budget deficits and democrats would
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argue health care reform would also reduce the budget deficit. and, in fact the congressional budget office, which was also passed as part of the 1974 congressional budget act, has ruled that all of the health reform bills would reduce the budget deficit. bill: so it may be the course, reconciliation, nuclear option, we shall see, wendell, thanks for that. good answer, wendell goler, and do you have a question you want answered?, and you need one line in the question line, because you asked, bya. martha: and most of us wouldn't dream of putting an in fant or a toddler, in a car seat and why are children allowed to ride in planes around the country without being buckled? . a big debate for a while among federal agencies and joining us is brian wilson on this in d.c., you see it all the time, infants flying on their mother's laps,
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across the country, i'm sure i did. what is the danger. >> reporter: what do you do with this child with a crash-landing and the greater, perhaps, concern is unanticipated turbulence when a small infant can be thrown about the cabin of an aircraft and turbulence is the number one cause of injuries to the passengers and the flight attendants and for years the national transportation safety board asked the fchaa to purcha seats, and have the child retrained but the move has gone nowhere and the chairman of the ntsb is a bit baffled. >> every state in the country has requirements about buckling up your child in an age appropriate restraint in automobiles and it is no different in an aircraft situation. you must restrain them properly, if you want them to have a good chance of survival if there is an accident. >> reporter: now, it has been on the ntsb safety wish list for
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years and was remove because the faa was not budging. martha: what does this faa say. >> reporter: here's the official statement from the faa, i'll let it speak for itself. quote the we encourage but do not mandate the use of child safety devices on the planes because of the increased safety risk, for families, who forced to purchase an extra airline ticket might choose to drive. they go forward and saying the risk is significantly greater in automobiles, than in airplanes. and the faa fallses the end purview of the secretary of transportation, ray lahood who this week during the toyota hearings said safety is his number one issue. >> thank you very much, brian wilson in washington. bill: we have never before seen photos today of one of saturn's moons and why it matters, and check it out, the best look yet, at a tiger stripe, and a crack in the surface of saturn's moon, and spewing water vapors with huge plumes of ice and michio
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kaku, my guest in studio, good morning to you. once considered boring moons, boring no more and these images are amazing. what do we look at. >> we realize that by rights, some of this, the moon should be frozen over and we're a billion miles away from the sun when look at the photographs. and by rights they should be frozen and there is a new energy source, a new energy source, melting the ice, pushing perhaps 100 guysers into space. bill: the planet or moon in this case, and it is always changing and moving and creates the friction and generates the heat an mel and melts the ice which leads me to, is there life there? you have water. >> i think of a racquetball or a tennis ball, as it tumbles around saturn it retates and is squeezed by gravity and causes friction, as you pointed out and causes heat which melts the
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ices. and, meaning some of the moons actually have liquid oceans beneath the ice cover, not just guysers but ocean, and james cameron put avatar on pandora, a moon of a saturn-like planet. bill: what does avatar got to do with that. >> the moon, pandora was set revolving around a saturn-like pattern and we now realize mars is not the only game in town, and now have moons of jupiter, europa, moons of saturn, that have guysers, liquid oceans, and, underneath the ice cover and life may exist, way out there, billions of miles away. bill: the old thinking and the logic was you had to be close to the sun in order to support life because you needed the heat. and now you say that could be changed now based on these images. >> this is a game-changer and we used to think the goldilocks zone around the sun, if the earth is too close you have steam and too far it gets frozen over, but, this is new, and we have a new energy source,
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gravity, the squeezing of these moons by gravity creating friction and heat and melting the ices. bill: you know what i say, i say boring no more! i mean, look what we have got out there. nice to see you, my friend on a friday and good luck, michio kaku. here. martha: move over, march madness, time for midterm madness! have you checked out what is going on in colorado? in the senate race there? it is hot, hot, hot! and, democratic candidate andrew rome romanoff says he's a better guy for the job than the guy who president obama likes and in iowa, a horrifying car accident, a car and a school bus and we'll tell you how it played out. right after this. paef
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lungs, bladders or the american people hold out with that spectacle. >> strong words from andrew romanoff, the colorado senate candidate who says his party is blowing their majority opportunity, in congress, right now. and the race in the centennial state is shedding light on how difficult the midterms are shaping up to be and meet today's player, former state house speaker andrew romanoff a democrat who reportedly had hopes of filling the seat of former senator ken salazar who left the senate seat to work for the obama administration back in 2009, and michael bennett took his place, salazar's place, and now, he's fighting to hold on to that senate seat, michael bennett is and whoever wins on the democratic side, may go up against republican jane norton and she was in "america's newsroom" on wednesday, and here's what a match-up might look like according to rasmussen, the race tightening the last month, and norton 45 and romanoff at 38% and he runs
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better against norton in those polls, than does michael bennett, interestingly. and andrew romanoff joins me now, good to have you here, sir, welcome. >> thanks, martha, appreciate it. martha: you want to be a senator and we watched a lot of action yesterday at blair house and harry reid says reconciliation is not a big deal and that is what we should do and would you like to see, six weeks from now the senate push through the health care reform bill on reconciliation. >> here's what i would like to see, i'd like to see every american get coverage and seems the senate would do better to take up or down votes on bills than talk them to death and we don't have a filibuster in colorado and don't talk bills to death and it sounds that way sometimes. martha: would you be in favor of the current democratic majority pushing through this health care reform bill as it exist, through reconciliation, if you were a senator right now, would you be in favor of that. >> two things, one the reconciliation provision is appropriate if it is related to budget matters and two with respect to the current bill you are asking now, i think there
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are a couple of ways it could be improved and we ought to do more to reduce costs and we're going broke and i talk to so many families and small businesses who cannot afford double-digit increases in premiums every year, and i think reforming the fee-for-service system driving so many procedures and tests we don't need, and bankrupting so many employers and individuals across colorado and the country, is a mistake. martha: i read on your web site, last night, you are in favor, ultimately of a single payor health care system, where the government runs the health care system, kind of like they have in canada now, is that right? >> no, that is not entirely accurate. i propose a universal system of coverage in which every american can get access to insurance, a couple of ways to do that but in which the private sector continues to provide health care. i think that is a better approach than the one for example in britain where the government owns the hospitals and employs the doctors and nurses. martha: looking at your local papers, last night, i learned that there was speculation you
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might drop out of the race and also talk when governor ridder said he was not going to run and you said maybe i'll run for the governor's race and then president obama jumped into that race as well and said he supports the denver mayor for that governor's position, do you feel like the president doesn't like you very much. >> i respect the president and support him and campaigned for him but my campaign is focused on the 3 million voters in colorado and none of whom have cast a ballot yet in this race. martha: are you in it to stay in it and what will be the thing that will make beat michael bennett? >> here's how i'll win the primary and general, i'm the only candidate in the race with a record of legislative leadership and brought democrats and republicans together, to solve some of the toughest problems, in colorado and i'm the only candidate who is not accepting continue buicks from the special interest groups, and too many of those groups are subsidizing both sides of the aisle and blocking reform on many issues. martha: a lot of people auburn happy with that, thanks for being with us, and we love look
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thaetin ing at the races, around the country and will know how to vote when the time comes around. bill: what a fall it will be. martha: railed, yes. bill: and we're awaiting a news conference out of sea world,' killer whale leaving a veteran trainer dead. the animal, mammal, will it continue to perform and we're waiting on that and if you win an olympic gold medal, you want to whip it up and tell me why the canadian women's hockey team is in a bit of hot water. martha: favorite story of the day, next. positively ageless. with shiitake complex, it helps speed... your skin's unique renewal process. 94% of women showed an improvement... in lines or wrinkles. for younger looking skin: aveeno positively ageless.
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megyn: the canadian women's hockey team skating on thin ice, after beating the u.s., to win the olympic gold and that is not what the problem is, the olympic committee is coming down on them for their post-game celebration, nearly an hour after the game ended, the canadian women came back out on the ice, and they
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were smoking cigars and swigging champagne and drinking beer. and i thought they looked like they were having a good time and you know, it is their country, that is what i say, bill -- and the ioc is investigating what happened and team canada say they regret it and i thought they were cute and seemed like they were having a lot of fun! why shouldn't they celebrate. bill: they were really good on the ice. martha: long faces on our team and they won a silver, should be proud. bill: and the olympic coverage out of vancouver, and the u.s. is hopefully celebrating in style, minus, the cigars, the u.s., total of 32 medals and germans, 26 and norway in third at 19. martha: a lot of the success we're seeing is due to rigorous and what some are calling revolutionary training methods, our american athletes are going through now and jim care ras is our local inhouse fitness expert and what are they doing now that is different and we have seen lindsey vonn and bode miller in amazing shape and what are they doing now that is different.
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>> it is technical, how you train the body from what we knew in the past and is a lot of what we call stability training, and that is training these people on teeter totters, and on balls and on foam and on all sorts of different apparatus that really enable the body to respond, to that extreme lateral movement from skiing, skating, and i mean, it really, is exactly what we all should be doing, to be honest with you and to be able to walk on the ice and when people walk on the ice you have to have a good -- good ability for your body to put it back in balance and that is what they are doing for the athletes they were not doing five or ten years ago. bill: what is that? you don't go to the weight room or get on the bench or do the curls. >> great question, you are right, it is all total body conditioning, the old-fashioned style of doing a leg extension, a single joints movement, a bicep curl, you don't do that much, because all of the activities, are multi-muscle, multi-joint movements. and you want to train the body in tow at, rather than just training what we call pretty
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muscle and if you want pretty muscles, do the single movement training and if you want to be a competitive athlete, you have to really hit... bill: we save curls for the girls! martha: i wants pretty muscles and compete! and, give us a sense of, what can you do at home? i think of the balance -- sort of like the squishy thing you stand on. >> yes, i love that, standing on one leg and the funny thing is you do at home, on the phone, doing dishes, at your computer, stand up and stan d on one leg and squat lower in that leg and make it more challenging on your muscles and i loved push-ups and always loved the pilates plank, a great total body workout and great for the core and abs. martha: ike a big push-up fan. bill: and quick question, you say the core, is that... is that here to stay or some sort of fad when it comes to exercise. >> it got overdone the core training, the abs and the lower back and the middle of the body
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and has gone way overboard with, how they are doing just core training but is one modality and i would say, with fitness training, do a little bit of everything, and that is what challenges and continued fuses the body and yes, the core has been overdone, but, given the fact that 85% of persons have a back problem, working the core is critically important. and, what is interesting is the old myth of rest the bad back is wrong! you absolutely want to work a bad back, probably within 48 to 72 hours, of the injury. yes! because you don't want it to get tight and have inflammation and you want to be sure to ice it and there's a lot of things even for the back right now, that have changed from what we used to do, don't lie down in bed and do nothing. get up and move. bill: work it, thanks. martha: you are overworking your core, buddy. jim, thanks. >> i want to see your core next time, bill! bill: oh, yeah. ain't happening! a couple more months... >> okay. will give you motivation, you said you were lacking motivation. bill: that's right, man! martha: a contest. >> cool, i'll do it. martha: all right, jim. bill: in a moment here a middle
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>> it is a baby translator. tells whoever is around in plane english what the baby is trying to say. martha: classic moment from the the simpson's, final a way for parents to stop kids from crying. japanese scientists say a computer program can translate and understand


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