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>> brian: download it. >> download it. everything. >> gretchen: we'll see you on the after the show show. have a great weekend. bill: good morning, everybody, we are following the money as we're learning more details of the times square terror plot, agents pakistani men in custody, two out of massachusetts, one from the state of maine. good morning, it's a red friday around here. martha: it is a red friday. bill: i'm bill hemmer. martha: hello there, bill, good to have you with -- to have you back, i'm martha maccallum. the big question of the day, did they serve as cash couriers to help faisal shahzhad carry out his attack? federal agents carried out the series of raids that spread across the northeast. bill: rick leventhal is live in the new york city newsroom. what led investigators to these men and where are they now? >> reporter: bill, some of the leads were generated by
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solid police work following shahzhad's electronic and paper trails but much is coming from shahzhad himself who's been talking to the feds almost since his arrest, he's waived his right to remain eye lent and right to a speedy trial and -- silent and right to a speedy trial and he provides information on associates, one of whom is reportedly under arrest in pakistan after admitting to helping shahzhad with ties to the pakistan taliban, bill. bill: three men taken into custody in the northeast yesterday and what do we know about them, rick? >> reporter: they're suggested -- suspected of financing the failed times square bomb attack by giving shahzhad thousands in cash but it's not clear if the men knew what he was using the money for. the feds fanned out to half a dozen locations from new jersey to long island, boston and beyond, seizing computers and paperwork, at a home in watertown and in brookline after searching a mobil station, grabbing another man in maine as well. they're all held on immigration violations but are likely to face more
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serious charges soon. on on this island -- on long island, some raids were carried out but some say they were unfairly targeted. listen. >> fbi came at 6:00 this morning, looking to harass me, asking a question about that guy, that guy tried to do whatever in the city. how am i supposed to tell something like that? why would i do that, help out a terrorist so he can go kill kids? >> reporter: the fbi hasn't commented on that questioning but the developments are called a significant step forward in this investigation, bill. bill: it is interesting, too. rick leventhal, thank you. follow it, we'll be back in touch with new details on this. thank you rick. martha. martha: related to all of this, meanwhile u.s. attorney general eric holder getting grilled during testimony before the house judiciary committee, karl rove is going to join us in one minute on this, but first, watch this rather testy exchange between texas republican lamar smith and
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holder over whether radical islam incyte dollars the recent terror plot. >> there are a variety of reasons why i think people have taken these actions. i think you have to look at each individual case. i mean, we're in the process now of talking to mr. shhh zad to try to understand what it is that drove him to take the action. >> radical islam could have been one of the reasons? >> a variety of reasons. >> but was radical islam one of them? >> there are a variety of reasons why people do these things. some of them are potentially religious -- >> but all i'm asking is if you think among those variety of reasons, radical islam might have been one of the reasons that the individuals took the steps they did. >> radical islam, i think people who espouse a version of islam that is not -- >> are you uncomfortable attributing any of their actions to radical islam? it sounds like it. >> i don't want to say anything negative about a religion. >> i'm talking about radical islam, i'm not talking about
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the general religion. >> right, and i'm saying that a person like anwar awlaki, for instance, who has a version of islam not consistent with the teaches of it but who espouses a -- >> again, could radical islam have motivated these individuals to take the steps they did? >> i certainly think that it's possible that people who espouse a radical version of islam have had an ability to have an impact on people like mr. shahzhad. martha: there you go. that was the conversation, karl rove is former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff to george w. bush, also a fox news contributor. i'll open it up to you, what do you make of that exchange? glam arioo. >> lamar smith, from texas, a permanent friend of mine, one of the most mild manner ed man, i don't understand why the attorney general said absolutely radical islam could have been a foork and has been in many instances and move on. at the end he seemed to be acknowledging yes, radical islam could play a significant role in
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motivating some of these people to take the acts they do, but i don't understand why he couldn't say yes and move on. martha: it's a good point, because he made clear, attorney general eric holder, made clear, you know, to his credit, he got cut off a number of times while trying to explain himself in this, eric holder, he said there are a variety of reasons and as you point out, one of those reasons, because we do have all in of factors go into all of the decision made on anyone's part to become a terrorist, but what gets to the heart of this, karl, there does appear on the administration's behalf to have a hesitancy to sort of call this what many people including congressman smith believe it is. >> right. well, and overseas contingents operation, rather than war against terror, i mean, a variety of factors rather than willing to say yes, radical islam plays a role in a number of these peoples' decision to take violent acts. i mean, again, it's a
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sensitivity towards offending terrorists that just strikes me as unneeded and awkward. martha: it goes back to i think this administration and all the way back to the campaign, really, of commitment to be very much unbush, you know, antieverything that represented in many ways the administration that you were part of, and so you can almost feel miami in many cases bending backwards to go against the philosophy that terrorism had to be dealt with in a serious way and it was at its root a radical islamic movement. >> look, my message would be get over the campaign, get on with the act of governing. they are now at a police where they don't need to pray indicate the left, they can speak plainly and clearly and look, it's important to speak plainly and clearly in the struggle in order to give the moral authority to people within the islamic lig yoj who want to fight these people and stand up and fight against terrorism and say this does not represent the great lig
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yont of which we participate it. i don't get it. it's a sensitivity to hurting the terrorists and i don't think it's warranted. martha: it raises a large he question, for example, why are we in war in afghanistan, why are we fighting the taliban, really everything that's been undertaken by our military since september 11th hinges on a clear understanding for all of us about what this mission is. >> yeah, and yesterday, we saw the interesting article on the front page of the "new york times", from america's newspapers, i should say, about indonesia and its efforts to confront the radical strains of islam within this country, indonesia, the most populist muslim country in the world and they're taking on sort of the radical sects who use and pervert a great religion in the name of their armed struggle so if they can do it, the attorney general of the united states can certainly do it. martha: karl, thank you for your thoughts and we're going to have karl with bill in a few minutes, we'll
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expand this conversation and so karl stand by. always good to have you with us. bill: you mentioned afghanistan, want to know how the war is going, the guy running the show says at the moment, no one is winning, general stanley mcchrystal said efforts have led to some progress but the general stake in that matter is that the u.s. military and its nato partners have essentially fought the taliban to a draw nearly eight years into the war. roll this from pbs. >> i think in the last year we've made a lot of progress. i think i'd be prepared to say nobody is winning at this point, where the insurgents i think felt that they had momentum a year ago, felt that they were making clear progress, i think that's stopped. bill: those comments from mcchrystal come a day after president obama hosting afghan's president hamid karzai at the white house, predicting the war will get worse before it gets better. martha: they paid a price because a school administrator does not agree with arizona's controversial immigration law and now the
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girls on the basketball team from illinois are speaking out about being denied the chance to play that big game in arizona. wait until you hear what they're saying today. bill: the butets and tear gas and a high rank officer is shot and clinging to life. where this scene is playing out and what sparked all of this in moments. martha: attorney general eric holder criticizing arizona's law and saying it may be ripe for feed lawsuit. but then listen to this: >> have you read the arizona law? martha: his response, after this.
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martha: a deadly standoff in thailand, thai troops firing bullets and tear gas at antigovernment protestors. watch.
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>> the rioting outside the u.s. and japanese embassies are turning central bangkok into a virtual war zone. at least two people were killed. among the wounded, though, was a journalist and a renegade general who while he was being interviewed was shot in the head. we understand that he is in serious condition in the hospital right now. he was not killed in that attack. troops are right now trying to get a ham on the violence we'll keep you posted. bill: in the meantime we showed you attorney general air uk holder there taking tough questions at the house idishrary committee on terrorism. he was also asked about challenging arizona's new immigration law. take a listen to this exchange between holder and texas congressman ted poe on that topic. >> have you read the arizona law? >> i have not had a chance. i've glanced at it. i've not read it. >> it's ten pages. it's a lot shorter than the health care bill which was 2000 pages long. i'll give you my copy of it if you would like to have a
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copy. even though you haven't read the law, do you have an opinion as to whether it's constitutional? >> i've not really -- i've not been briefed yet. we have, as i said, have had underway a review of the law. i've not been briefed by the people who are responsible for that review. >> are you going to read the law? >> i'm sure i will read the law in oonts pace of that briefing. i know that they will put that in front of me and i'll spend a good evening read thank law. i only made the comment that is i've made on the basis of things i've been able to glean by reading newspaper accounts, obviously television, talking to people on the review panel, on the review team looking at the law. but i've not reached any conclusions as yet with regard to -- i just expressed concerns on the basis of what i've heard about the law but i'm not in a position to say at this point, not having read the law, not having had the chance to interact with people doing the review exactly what my position is. bill: that was eric holder. we have karl rove back.
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what do you make of it? >> the bill is not difficult to get ahold of or read, nor are the amendments difficult to get ahold of or read. the justice department is down that way, maybe i could stop on the way back to the house and drop off two copies. i mean, you know, i wonder, fz an interesting question in this race, the president of the united states, has he read the bill when he made his criticisms, because i'm skeptical of the efficacy of this bill, but i've read it and it's on the surface, plain and straight forth language about a law enforcement official may not consider race, color, origin in the enforcement bill, it says for any lawful stop, detention, arrest made by law enforcement official, they have reasonable suspicion to believe somebody is not a u.s. citizen, they can ask them for their immigration status. it's relatively simple to read. bill: we saw people that have written the law, put them on tv and talked to the governor and down the line, they are saying we were ready for any legal challenges and that's why we put the language in the bill
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that we put in there. so now you've got the attorney general of the united states, and he's asked for an opinion on it. i mean, he said they're concerned about profiling. that's his issue and we've heard that considerably time and again, but he makes it clear in the end he has not read the law. >> he's not read the law yet he's been critical of it. both the justice department and administration have essentially said it's a bigoted racist law that's going to lead to racial profiling and we now know the attorney general hasn't read the law. the question is when the president made the comments last week had he read the law. the temperature ought to be lowered by the administration on this bill, not raised. they should be moderate and item pratt in their comments and -- item pratt in their comments and not throwing gasoline on the fire. bill: in 2008, on the politics of this, president obama beat john mccain 67-31 percent among latino voters, okay, that's 2-1. you go back to 2004, when you were in the game with george bush and john kerry,
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it was much smaller, 53 percent to 44 in favor of john kerry. president obama brought out more hispanics in the voting booth and you wonder, we've got a midterm coming up here, it's not a general election, you wonder how this issue plays. you've examined that and come up with what? >> well, look, my personal opinion is this is politics. the president has not laid the basis for comprehensive immigration reform, in fact he said he didn't think congress had the appetite to take it up this year, yet he has made a big deal of now saying i'm in favor of comprehensive reform and going after the arizona law. when nobody in washington thinks there's a chance of comprehensive immigration reform to be passed this year. the white house hasn't laid a foundation for it. i think it's all about politics, mid-term politics, getting the latino -- latino vote in anger against the arizona law. bill: where is that happening, who's talking about that? >> president president, for example, gratuitously dubbed this law as being bigoted, racist, when the law specifically says you cannot use race as a factor in our
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national origin in asking about immigration status. you have to have a reasonable suspicion that arises during an arrest, detention or stop of -- a lawful stop of an individual, and you have to have a reasonable suspicion that they're not a u.s. citizen before you can even ask them that question. so the president ought to be lowering the temperature. even, it's his job to try and get big legislation passed but he's done nothing to get immigration reform addressed by congress. this is all about mid-term politics. bill: he's trying to get an advance on this? does it drive more hispanics to the polls do you believe? >> i think it might. bill: but if you say that, you're assuming that legal immigrants are against this law. we don't know that. i mean, immigrants who came here, they might be thinking hey man, i did it the right way, you should too. >> look, i think that the issue here is the racial
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profiling. i think if you ask everybody, do you think the united states government or state and local governments, we saw the polls yesterday, there was a poll out that said over 70 percent of the american people believe the fundamental concept of police being able to ascertain immigration status was -- they approved of it. so i think there are a lot of latinos who believe in border security and would support the concepts behind this bill but the way the administration is going about doing this, bigoted, racist, leading to racial profiling, it's certain to raise doubts as to whether or not this is aimed at them, not just illegal immigrants. bill: you have covered a lot of ground for us, thank you, karl rove. martha: it is a disaster that may be bigger than anybody ever thought it could be. the shocking reality of just how bad the oil damage really is. we will learn more coming up. bill: also there's a law that bans ethnic studies in public schools in arizona, sparking student protests. we'll dig into the facts behind the controversy and show you exactly what the kids are studying in the
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courtroom. -- in the classroom.
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bill: we have new videotape of a miracle survivor, this nine-year-old dutch boy, the only survivor of a plane crash, could go home this weekend. he lost his mother and father and older brother in that crash that killed 103 people. doctors saying that he is recovering well after 4 1/2 hours of surgery, they performed that operation to repair his broken legs but he reportedly has not been told that his parents and older brother are no longer with him. relatives from the netherlands at his bedside now. martha: the president expected to come out strong today in his message to british petroleum. this as they try again down
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in the gulf. bp is settling on its next attempt to cut down on the oil that's gushing out of that busted well. 5000 feet down, engineers are pilot ago remote controlled undersea robot attempting to thread a small tube into the jagged pipe that you see right here, and then pump the spewing oil up to the tanker. the tube we understand could be in place later today. meanwhile, bp's chief operating officer was on fox & friends this morning, asked if the company has ruled out terrorism as the cause of the explosion that started the whole nightmare. here's what he said. >> you know, i fully understand that. i mean, everyone wants to know, including me, what happened here, what went wrong and what we have to do to prevent it but actually that's not my role. my role is focused slowly on bringing this thing to an end quickly and min midessing the impact. that's -- and minimizing the impact. martha: david lee miller, any indication that the latest fix is going to work? >> reporter: well, as for this idea duoreoo du juor,
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it is in the works, but it faces a couple of obstacles, putting a smaller tube inside the 21-inch pipe that is gushing oil. one of the things that the authorities here, the officials, have to do is the smaller pipe has to deploy a series of flaps into the larger pipe. if that's not successful the oil is going to spill out the sides. secondly, there is concern about methane ice crystals being formed this far down. if that happens, those ice crist cal -- crystals could enclosing the smaller pipe and that would present the -- that would clog the smaller pipe and they would have to go back to the drawing board. if you were to ask 100 scientists what's the damage, you'd probably get 101 different answers. but one oceanographer from the florida state university, ian mcdonald now estimates that the spillage exceeds what took place in 1989 in prince
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william -- william sound in alaska, that, of course, was the incident involving the exxon valdez. the exxon valdez is one of the top six worst oil spills since 1969. 11 million gallons of oil flowed into prince william sound and we understand according to ian mcdonald that it's possible 13 million gallons has already flowed into the gulf. he believes, based on aerial studies and looking at the videotape that the oil flow is five times what had previously been estimated. martha: and we should point out that that really hasn't hit the shores in a big way yet and when it does, this is going to be a brand new pr nightmare, i would imagine, for british petroleum, thank you very much, david lee miller in louisiana. president obama, expected to make a statement on that oil spill today at the white house, as i said. it is expected to be a fairly strong statement about bp, coming from the president. after that he meets with the cabinet about his ongoing
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efforts to stop that spill. follow today's newest developments online and you can follow that arrow to that live shot, houston we have a problem coverage and click on that and that will give you more details about what's going on to stop this problem. bill: that's a big red arrow. martha: anybody can follow it, even me! bill: in a moment, fresh evidence the times square plot is far from over, nearly two weeks after attacks, federal agents are sweeping raids, launching arrests in this country, and also thousands of miles away in pakistan. and wait until you hear about the new information which triggered the latest crackdown. and a year of playing their hearts out got one illinois sky houlo he high school hoop team into the tournament of their dreams but the politics of arizona have changed all that. now the players are talking for the first time. listen here. >> i think i've learned that, like, politics and sports shouldn't mix, and they shouldn't like affect each other, especially at the high school level.
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bill: we mentioned this earlier, there's brand new tape of the deadly standoff in thailand, troops going head to head with antigovernment protestors, the rioting taking place outside the u.s. and japanese embassies, turning central bangkok into a virtual war zone. at least two are dead, among the dead and wounded a journalist and renegade general who sided with the protestors. he was shot in the head during an interview. that's the. videotape into "america's
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newsroom" out of bangkok. martha: the space shuttle atlantis is preparing for its final voyage and boy has it been working hard all these years, atlantis is expected to lift off this afternoon, nasa's launch team pumped 500,000 gallons of fuel into the massive external tank before dawn today and the one two-day mission is going to take six astronauts to the international space stairks they will leave behind a russian mini research module and other replacement parts. only one more launch before the entire fleet is retired. we'll have full coverage at 2:20 p.m. today right here on fox news channel. bill: in the meantime we're tracking down leads and three men are in custody with the possible connection to the failed times square terror attack, the fbi and custom immigration enforcement raiding several locations across the northeast yesterday, new york, new jersey, massachusetts, and maine. a witness to one of the raids said it was not your usual wake-up call by any
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means. i am certain of that. listen. >> around a quarter of 6:00, we heard fbi, don't, blank, move, and we looked out the window and there were several police officers, people with fbi jackets on and a lot of people with guns. bill: well, the men were picked up by immigration violations, attorney general air o'clock holder saying he suspects they gave money but whether or not they were giving money to the actual bomber is still the issue. the precise nature of the links not clear. michael bal balboni is an advising for the state of new york. good morning to you. >> thank you. bill: would have been talking to folks on the inside of this. what are you hearing about the connection to cash? >> what they are looking for is a connection where the gentleman gave money to shahzhad and it's believed that was the mope he was able to use to buy the pathfinder, go get the money for the airline tickets, and they're looking at a courier
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connection. bill: in what sense? >> in the sense, the monies they received from some other source and they provided to him. of course, it's unclear and the u.s. attorney made very sure to say was that the specific motivations at this time, bill, is unclear because as you know money is fungible and you can give it to people for lots of reasons. it's hard to prove. bill: but that's the source of this whole investigation now. >> it is. bill: if you can prove t. you've got a linchpin to the men picked up yesterday. >> the other thing they may be trying to do is be proactive and if there is operational tempo of other events, they're trying to disrupt that by talking to as many as they can and pull the thread to see what unravels. bill: cam deny, new jersey, sherry hill, center reach, new york, shirley, new york. what else? watertown, massachusetts, west of boston. wow. >> all the northeast. all the epicenter. and this is of course what we've around the world. whenever you have an attack inside a target city, what
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happens is folks get together and plot it outside of the target city. bill: follow the mope. are we good at it yet or getting better? >> we're getting better. in this case when you use cash, and you go buy things, that's when you pick up the financial footprint. we're going to see who they were talking to, also. bill: u.s. authorities, though, have had a difficult time shutting these networks down. >> very true. bill: we tried to do this overseas. it's a tough thing to do. this could be a credit agency. >> there's a whole system called hiwallah that's used in the mideastern countries, it's kind of a separate financing and banking system that is very difficult. >> bill: sorry, that's not a terror network, that will be a way for you if you are traveling from islamabad to new york, you don't want to carry a suitcase of luggage, you could put a check in the bank. >> that is very true but it has been linked, and having received monies from organizations that have been linked to providing funding for terrorist groups.
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bill: and that point is well taken, because that's how the job becomes even more difficult. michael balboni, thank you, talk to your sources, come back, let us know what you find out. we're watching the story on air and online, and you are too with your computer. log on to shots for the latest on the times square investigation, included in there, the latest arrest in the connection to this case. check it out online right now, michael, thank you. >> thank you very much. martha: arizona has certainly been a hot bed of controversy lately, that's for sure. first the immigration bill and now a new law that bans schools from teaching mexican-american and african-american studies in their classroom. critics have been blasting the programs since 2007 because they say that the textbooks that are being taught in these classes are trying to fire up these young students and telling them to take back the southwest and reconnect it to mexico. here's an example of that. to chicanos, the southwest
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is more than just a place of residence, it is their homeland, their lost homeland, to be precise, the conquered northern half of the mexican nation. all right? what do you think about that? tom horn is the arizona state schools superintendent. he has been fighting this fight for some tile and he joins me now. tom, good to have you with us, good morning. >> good to be with you, thank you. martha: i know that you've been working on this for a while. i want to show everybody before you jump in, after that statement that we just showed is a question and answer sort of suggestion for the classes and let's put that question up, so everybody gets sort of how these classes are working. it says, this is question number 11, we just picked one out of the group, in order for chicanos to have a cultural, political and economic self determination what must chicanos have control of in order to do? how did you get into this and why do you think it's such a serious thing? >> i should say first of all
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philosophically in the summer of 1963 when i graduated from high school i was part of the march on washington where martin luther gave the famous speech that said we should be judged by the con tefnt our character and not the color of our skins and that's been fundamental to the philosophy of my life, that what matters about us what we know, and can do, and our character and not what race we've been born into and what they've been dividing -- doing is dividing these up by race, the studies for the african-american studies, indian studies for the native american kids, and i believe it's wrong to divide kids up like that. it really sounds like the old south. i think the kids, we need to bring the kids together from different backgrounds and teach them to treat each other as individuals and not form an ethnic chauvinism among them. martha: a lot of the text, i read through it, it's more than we can show everybody but it suggests to students you need to maintain your mexican identity more than
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your american identity and you need to be aware of your history in a way that makes you want to contain that more than become part of the american culture, and i don't think that's a reach to say that after having read a lot of this text. but here's this side of the story, tom. let me show you, this is a quote from a young woman who feels very differently about this. let's play -- let's play that. >> because of these classes i could look myself in the mirror and not be ashamed of my curly hair, i was not ashamed for being darker than most people, these classes have done so much for me. martha: and here's a quote from the united nations, on all of this, they say everyone has the right to seek and develop cultural knowledge and to know and to understand his or her own culture and that of others through education and information. what do you say about that, tom? >> well, the standards that are promulgated by our department require in social studies class kids together learn about different cultures and that's the way to do it, not divide them up and teach them only about their own culture. i think this united nations
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group is narrow minded in focusing on the idea that whatever race you happen to be born into you need to learn about that and not about the other groups. my view is we need to learn about all different groups, we're all individuals, we need to create individual identities based on individual strengths and not form ethnic chauvinism among the students. we have a lot of testimony from teachers and former teachers that the teachers in this program are antiwestern culture, they're anticapitalist, they're antifree enterprise, they use ethnic solidarity as a means to convey these left leaning philosophies. this is total abuse of taxpayer money in our public schools. i've been fighting for four years to get it out and finally the legislature this year passed a bill i wrote for them that gives me the power to put a stop to this kind of thing in our public schools. martha: let me ask you this: you said they're segregated, the kids, into these different classes. is that by choice? i mean, could a child take the mexican-american studies
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class if they are not mexican-american? if they chose? >> yes, they can. and if you do, the raza study classes are 90 percent latino so if you do that, and the way i wrote the bill, to be prohibited, it doesn't have to be exclusively for that race but if it's primarily intended for one race it's prohibited, because i think the job of the public schools is to take students from different backgrounds and teach them to treat each other as individuals, rather than on the basis of what race they happen to have been born into. that's i think contrary to my philosophy, it's contrary to what i believe is a fundamental american value that we're all individuals. martha: very interesting. tom horn, thank you very much for being with us today, we appreciate it, sir, have a good day. >> thanks for having me. thanks. bill: fox news alert now, there's been a tornado warning now issued for san antonio, texas. that means the conditions are right for a tornado to be formed and a warning means that a tornado has been spotted in some sense. janice dean is in the
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weather center. don't know if it's touched down or not. what do you see and what counties are on the lookout? >> strong rotation noted on doppler radar. let's move into this location right outside of san phone --o san antonio. there's our tornado morning for northeast medina, northwestern bear and southeastern ban dera county, as well as as heavy rains, on order of 2 inches an hour in this area. we could see a rain-wrapped tornado which means you can't see it coming. so a dangerous situation. there's the cell we are watching just northwest of san antonio and unfortunately guys we're going to deal with the potential of severe weather from texas to the great lakes and into the northeast today. we'll keep you posted and bring you the latest. bill: you called it a rain-wrapped tornado? >> it could be. we're not sure. we're indicating doppler radar strong rotation, so no tornado has been spotted on the ground but because we have heavy rain in the order of 2 inches an hour this could be hindered or you can't see the tornado
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coming, so that's why i want to make sure -- >> bill: makes it even more dangerous. >> listen to your local authorities. thank you. bill: janice dean, thank you, central warning in texas. martha: things have quieted down in greece? think again. we're getting word of a powerful bomb that exploded inside a greek courthouse. we'll take you straight to the scene after this. bill: the lacrosse teams of virginia men and women go back to the field for the national tournament. there are questions out there as to how this lacrosse player here, yeardley love, died. the police chief on that case is here live, next.
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martha: new video just into our newsroom. chaos in greece now as bomb goes off inside a courthouse in the northern part of the cup. listen to this. >> it has been so unsettled
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there, police were able to get most of the people out of the building before the explosion thanks to an anonymous phone call. one person sustained an injury, the bomb reportedly was planted in a bathroom in the building's basement. no immediate claim of responsibility. this, of course, comes as this huge financial crisis continues to play out in greece. bill: troubles are not over for that country yet, are they? despite the trillion dollars. so family and friends and teammates of george huguely being questioned this week. investigators want to know more about the university of virginia lacrosse player who is accused of killing yeardley love. love was found dead in the off campus apartment this month and huguely, a lacrosse player on the men's team remains in jail after being charged with first degree murder in her death. the police chief is my guest. my best to your community down there.
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i can't imagine what the community and parents and everybody are going through. did he admit in court documents to you or other officers to kicking in the door, shaking her, and then saying that her head hit the wall repeatedly, is that the story he's giving? >> well, i'm not going to speak to whatever admissions against his self-interest that he may have made to investigators, suffice it to say, there was probable cause that places the charges that were placed against him. you know, every day this investigation goes on and continues, investigators begin to learn more not only about what may have happened that night but also the historical aspects of the relationship that play into what may have happened. bill: what do you mean by the historical aspects, chief? >> well, there was a relationship with these two people at some point in time, that relationship ended. we're trying to see exactly what was taking place between the two of them that may have led up to the days preceding yeardley's death, and how that relationship played out over a period of time is certainly something
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that could have been relevant to this case and will tell us more about these two people. bill: what would you ask family members or friends or players on these teams? >> well, you know, i'm happy to say that everyone we've talked to to this point has been cooperative and forth right with investigators, and we're certainly interested in knowing whether or not some of the things that have been played out in the media that we heard about prior issues that had taken place between miss yeardley and mr. huguely, when the things occurred, what may have occurred and all those are relevant factors to how this investigation continues to play out. bill: are you saying -- you're still at the early stages of the investigation? that's my next question. how much of the interviews can be put together to go into the final story here? >> i think the interviews are coming to a cloarks we're awaiting autopsy results and other forensic information that's relevant to the case. so we still are some
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distance away from presenting a case to the prosecutors. >> chief, thank you. thank you for your time today. my best of luck to you, okay? we'll follow up with that. >> thank you so much. martha: it is sacred ground, a constant reminder of the horrific events of september 11th, 2001. now steps from ground zero, some construction plans are stirring outrage. you will not believe what they want to build there. next.
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martha: listen to this, plans to turn one of the buildings right near ground zero into a mosque and islamic cultural center got a very big endorsement, a lower manhattan community board coming to the support of this $100 million project, supporters say that it can help heal some of the memories of the attacks, but
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some families of 9/11 victims do not feel that way. lauren green joins us now with more from lower manhattan. there's a lot of outrage about this, lauren. tell us the back and forth. >> martha, as you would expect, if you look behind me, you see the cranes back there, that is ground zero, where the twin towers fell, that's just two blocks away. if i move slightly over this way, you can see behind me the factory sign, that is where they po possess to build the 13 story, $100 million project. larry burlinggame said building a mosque and cultural center so close to hallowed ground of the world trade center is at the very least offensive. >> this is a place which is 600 feet from where almost 3000 people were torn to pieces by islamic extremists, and i think that is incredibly insensitive. >> and as you can understand, they're very,
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very upset. martha: what do the organizers of this islamic center, what's their defense, lauren? >> the imam spearheading the project says this is not primarily a mosque, it's a cultural center for all faiths, it's a 500 seat theert and its primary purpose is to heal the wounds between islam and the west. >> this center is about condemning terrorism, about amplifying the voice of the majority of muslims who condemn terrorism. >> as you can understand, this quite probably is not over, martha. martha: lauren, thank you very much. interesting development and a lot of emotion surrounding it. lauren green in downtown manhattan. bill: we're going to see history today. martha: we are? >> bill: we are. nasa is going to do it for us. twenty-five years ago today -- helly! -- hello!
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history is made with the shuttle atlantis. we'll have it live later today. 2:20 p.m. eastern time. martha: we always like to see that. an escalating crisis turning deadly with americans caught in the middle, the near assassination of an influential leader, all of it was caught on tape. it is incredibly dramatic. [ music playing, indistinct conversations ] the charcoal went out already? [ sighs ] forget it. [ male announcer ] there's more barbeque time in every bag of kingsford charcoal. kingsford. slow down and grill.
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martha: at this hour the leak in the gulf may be bigger than anybody thought and the president is expected to come out swinging today, about it. at this hour the president's preparing for a meeting with the members of the cabinet at the white house, and the plan is to discuss what is going on, down there. and why that spewing under the ocean, has not stopped. and, to help those communities that are most affected by it and that is how we start this busy brand new hour on the friday morning of "america's newsroom," i'm martha maccallum.
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bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning, i'm doing fine, after the discussion the president is scheduled to make a statement about the spill. and we hear he's not happy about the magnitude of what is happening in the gulf. and bp's response to it. martha: molly henneberg is live at the white house with more on that. >> reporter: good morning, we'll be watching the president's tone when he makes remarks on the oil spill today, see how angry he is, see how much patience he'll have with bp and bp's efforts to staunch the oil from gushing out of the torn pipe in the gulf and now, he's expected to make an appearance in the rose garden this hour to honor this nation's top cops, and he'll be back in the rose garden a couple of hours later talking about the oil spill. today, bp is trying to thread a tube surrounded by a stopper into the pipe gushing the crude oil and the hope is to direct the oil to a tanker one mile up, as far as the investigation into how it happened, bp officials say that is not their top focus right now.
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>> i've done nothing but focus on how to get it stopped and minimize the impact and other people are working on the investigation. i know they'll find out what went wrong and i know we'll find out what we need to do differently, but, actually the people of the region, what they want me to do is get it stopped. >> reporter: soil is -- spilling en to the gulf at a rate of 210,000 gallons today, and, according to a government calculation, days after the explosion of the oil rig, that is about 5,000 barrels a day. some scientists estimate it is much higher, an ocean oggrapher, at florida state university told "the new york times" today the leak easily could be, quote, four or five times the government estimates. also, more questions today about whether the obama administration was lax in enforcing federal law regarding such drilling operations, and fox reported that the federal minute malice management service, or mms, gave bp a regulatory pass on this project. and "the new york times" today
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says mms didn't get the needed environmental permits before approving contracts for bp, and other drilling operations. >> that is interesting. and we'll hear more about that, molly, thank you very much. as she points out we'll watch the president's tone, as he comes out, he has been upset about the gulf coast oil spill crisis but is it fair to point the finger at bp? remember, i believe robert gibbs said we'll keep our boots to the neck of bp and our political panel will weigh in on whether or not that is a good way to approach this, later this hour. bill? bill: hello! martha: mr. hemmer. bill: on the road to recovery, new numbers out on the retail sales figures out for april, showing a slight increase. .4%, far below the more than 2% rise from the previous month of march and gerri willis breaks it down, from the fox business network. are we still on the road to recovery. >> the market views this as a
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positive, because, sales came in 0.04% higher and the expectation was for a gain of 0.02%, and sales of cars, autos, motor vehicle sales were higher than expected. folks were also spending on their gardens and building materials were big winners for the month. and, they also revised upward march results, 2.1% gain for march. so bill. bill: we're looking at the numbers and as we're talking the dow is diving, down 162, and martha has breaking news. martha: thank you, now we're listening to admiral thad allen of the u.s. coast guard. >> one would be to cut the marine riser pipe above the block preventer and insert a valve that may be possible, because, they've been able to take pressure readings at the top of the stack and the pressure significantly lower where it might have afforded them an opportunity to do that and the other is to separation the lower marine riser from the
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stack and replace it with the second blowout preventer i talked about earlier. and it sounds confusing and is highly technical but basically three things are happening in combination, one to clog the blowout preventer to stop the leak and second is to sever the pipe, and put a valve into close it and the third to replace the blowout preventer or put a second one on and those three things could be ready for execution as early as the 18 a and we have a series of steps to mitigate the leakage and stop the leak and ultimately, cap the well with a long term relief well being drilled and the other issue we are working today is a final decision on the use of sub-sea dispersents, and we'll discuss it with lisa jackson from the national response team and if we get approval to move ahead we'll consider continuous application of dispersents at
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the sub-sea level to mitigate the leak and advance the security of the leak with the three ways i showed you earlier. i'll be in mississippi, later today and there are cleanup crews on the beach behind me and they are removing debris on the beach, and with -- wood and other foreign objects where oil might stick to it if it comes ashore, a risk mitigation measure in the event there is a spill here, there will be less oily debris to contend with, and there is no projected oil slick targeting this part of dauphin island and we have had reports of tar balls which can be manually picked up but at this time the majority of the oil is far offshore and i would like to make one other comment and i'll go to questions. i believe that this spill is kind of changing in its character. i don't believe there is a large, monolithic spill, you can see the perimeter and based on when the oil comes up and the wind and currents it is
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separating the patches of oil in which you have open water between and there is good and bad news in that. it is widely dispersed and is hard to manage the perimeter but, if there are shore im packs, coming ashore in smaller quantities, basically smaller subsets of what might have been a larger spill i would tell you it is changing in character over the life cycle of the event and that is not necessarily bad thing and i'll be glad to take any questions you might have for me. >> i know there is light of optimism with -- when it will be mitigated, do you have an idea of when we can see the top hat... or start seeing possible results. >> the effort of the top hat is today, later on today we'll know whether that succeeded or failed. but, again, i would advise you it is a risk mitigation factor against the leak and tried to address the problems in the early containment device, the creation of ice crystals and are doing it by heating the pipe with surface water and also injection of methanol at the
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bottom, the equivalent of gas line anti-freeze, a simple way to you to understand it and everything is being done in parallel. >>... with the top hat... two separate mitigation efforts or a combined effort. >> the top hat is a device over the leak, that will collect oil and take it to the surface. bp also looked at another opportunity to be able to tap into the pipe and put a pipe in there, a risk mitigator and the main effort today is the top hat and trying to get the oil to the surface through a pipe and evacuate it. >>... oil coming out at the neck... as bp showed yesterday. the experts say there is no way in the world it could be 5,000 barrels a day, it has to be much higher. are you standing by your estimates or do you see -- >> i'm glad you asked the question. let's talk about estimates. we first thought it was a thousand barrels and then thought it was 5,000 barrels. frankly, whether it was one or
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five or ten or 15 or mobilization of resources has been for something far beyond that, we're always prepared for a catastrophic event. so we have not been constrained in our planning or resources or tactics. by the flow estimates. and i would urge us all to remember, we're operating in an environment where there is no human access. the only parameters we have are two-dimensional video presentation and, remote sensing we can do down there and while it goes on, ultimately we have to know the extent of spill for natural resources damage assessments and other things but as far as this current response, we are on top of everything, and doing a great deal to break the slick up and deal with it offshore so we don't have impacts here and needs to continue but as far as how we're conducting the response that can run its course and we're attacking as if it was a much larger spill, anyway. >> would it surprise you if it was more. >> i'm not sure. like i said, we don't have access down there and one challenging thing about the entire response -- and i've done it over 30 years, there is no human access to the point of dis
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charge and that is different about this event. >> are you satisfied with the response of bp and the way they are moving at this point? it has been almost four weeks now and there has been a lot of failures. and learning what we learned about some of the things that went wrong, leading up to the explosion. do you trust them to move in a timely fashion? we're e me moving in a timely fashion. >> in my view they have been relentless and we have been relentlessen or oversight and we understand the stakes here. there were different tactics tried, sequentially and we've learned from those and bp is rolling them back in, and this has never been done before and an anomalous, unprecedented event and there is scientific support at the bp headquarters and has been unprecedented and includes other industry partners and includes the department of normally. secretary salazar and secretary chiu were down there and one of the break throughs was the provision of gamma ray radiography, and allowed a can
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of the blowout preventer to get the position of the valve, whether it closed or not and allowed to us get diagnostics on the blowout preventer. bp is the responsible party. u.s. coast guard, through the federal coordinator and i, as the national incident commander are the accountable party and everybody should be account tr t ari relentless and this is where we are. we have to have a relief well, and they have to drill down 18,000 feet and intersect the well and that is the long term solution and from the drilling, estimated at 90 days. >> you are saying they could see more of the video of how it is coming out, if they could see it they could get more accurate results? are you considering asking bp to release more video and are your scientists looking at that video, trying to come up with a revised estimate? >> i'm not aware of any requests for more video but i can take it back and look at it. i would caution everybody, this
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is a two-dimensional depiction of a three-dimensional event and we'll look night and i have not been involved in that this morning, though. >> you mentioned that you were treating this as a catastrophic event. do you consider this a catastrophic event at this point? >> i think it has a potential to be catastrophic and we need to plan that way and the character of the slick change and disaggregated into the smaller patches of oil and you can fly over and see heavy concentrations of oil suitable for skimming and burning and then miles of open water and it's not a monolithic spill, and that is challenging, because it goes across the wide area, that could be to our benefit, because if it impacts shore it's not the whole thing, it is a portion that came ashore. >> not catastrophic. >> i'll act as if it is until it is done and we all should. >> could you explain the subject -- subject to the approval...
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>> we have done three tests of sub sea dispersents at 5,000 feet, and happens not been done before and we are trying to be sure we understand, and several conversations with lisa jackson, the epa administrator... martha: thad allen talking about the efforts to contain the oil spill under the ocean and it is shooting into the ocean and he said it is being dispersed. the character changed. no longer a monolithic spill, they are tracking the area and the dispersement techniques works but they have a big problem on their hands and there may be more oil spilling out than they thought, and there are hearings coming up, that janet napolitano will attend and clearly the admiral wanted to be sure everybody believes that bp and the government are doing absolutely everything they can, to get a handle on the situation. the president is also coming up, to talk more about his feelings about british petroleum and their efforts in all of this.
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we'll keep you posted, on top of it. bill: in the meantime, talked about it last hour, pressure mounting on the commissioner of baseball, the all-star game, moving out of arizona and the commissioner is talking and wait until you hear what bud selig has to say about that idea. martha: you have seen the protests all over arizona, the crackdown on illegal immigrant and one lawmaker wants and each stricter law in his state. he joins us next. bill: and, they are following the money, piecing together new clues from the times square bombing plot and what they're learning from the three men in custody. [ female announcer ] sometimes you need tomorrow to finish what you started today. for the aches and sleeplessness in between, there's new motrin pm. no other medicine, not even advil pm, is more effective for pain and sleeplessness.
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martha: take you to the white house now, for a second to the rose garden, the president honoring the recipients of the top cops award sponsored by the national association of police organizations and officers from around the country, recognized n for going above and beyond the call of duty, streaming live at
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carl. >> reporter: it is a distinct possibility. this is really one of the most colorful and fascinating races in the midterm and, aroulen specter has been a main stay for years and now, an underdog, a two term congressman from suburban philly, former navy admiral, has surged in the polls and in some, actually has a shot knocking on the door for a big victory the last couple of months, has tapped into the national anti-incumbent sentiment, and, combined it with a potent hit on arlen specter's history of a lifetime in republican politics, cull minute na nating with a -- culminating with a flip-flop to the democratic party and joe sestak says voters will not buy it. >> there is no way we'll trust a politician who helped get us
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into the mess after 30 years down there and then, says i'll switch parties after advancing the republican agenda. they honestly don't understand it. that generation of politicians will almost do anything, their time has come and gone. >> reporter: specter certainly hopes to get more time, the 80-year-old is looking for his 6th term in the u.s. senate and is on the air with ads, blitzing the airwaves, really, with commercials that feature himself with president obama. sestak has answered that with a counterattack ad, in which he puts mr. specter with george w. bush on the campaign trail. a couple of years ago. bill? bill: it will be interesting. it has been that way already. live in philadelphia, today, carl cameron on the trail and we'll be in touch with him throughout the day. martha: yes, we will and they are playing the blame game in the gulf and the president is expected to come out swinging. the political fallout of the oil spill. bill: also, arizona's taking the toughest stance in the country on immigration. now, one state lawmaker says he
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wants to take it one step further. that lawmaker is on deck, live, in three minutes.
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martha: listen to this: a state representative in oklahoma says what arizona is doing with the immigration bill is not tough enough. over the last few years he's pushed through several measures to drive illegal representatives out of his state, the republican joins me now, sir, good to have you with us. good morning to you. >> good morning, martha. good morning. martha: what are you doing in oklahoma and, why is it tougher than what they are doing in arizona? >> well, oklahoma and arizona have both been at the forefront of the state-level real immigration reform movement for quite some time. arizona has surpassed oklahoma
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with its recent employment license sure provision and also the recent public safety law enforcement thing. you know, what we're looking at is replicating the arizona statute and oklahoma law but we want to go a little bit further and impose additional penalties for illegal aliens who are in possession of firearms, really criminal illegal gang bankers who are creating particular problems for us in south oklahoma city and number 2, we want to extend the drug asset seizure and forfeiture laws to immigration related offenses and three, enhance our rico statutes to deal with immigration crimes. martha: and things you list would break the law in and of themselves and why are they separate from your law that would expel them from the state, based on that. >> as you know, the answer is freaks weekend the feds don't prosecute these type of crimes, and, in other words, let me take for example, the instance of illegal aliens in possession of firearms, unless the illegal alien happened to have an
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unusually large cache or be caught in unusual circumstances the chances are the feds will decline to prosecute that, as with the arizona statute the separate statutes here in oklahoma would be designed to give our law enforcement a separate jurisdictional basis for enforcing the laws. martha: let me ask you what you think of this, arizona is getting a lot of heat, even though eric holder said they might have to sue arizona over the law. you know, in terms of the -- >> a travesty, i'm not sure he's read the statute. martha: that's true. and when you look at it overall, what do you think about the huge controversy it has created. >> well, i think it is much to do about nothing, frankly. if you read the arizona statute, it is quite reasonable. and, i'll tell you that, it really is something that has been in federal practice for well more than half a century. and oklahoma, also, has been at the receiving end of this, we are one of -- the only state in the nation, also, imposes a wire transmitter fee or remittance tax, if you attempt to send money out of the country from
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oklahoma and don't have a valid social security number we collect taxes on that money and that precipitated a call for trade sanctions from the nation of mexico and it represents attempts by a foreign nation to interfere with internal affairs of a sovereign u.s. state. quite frankly, we don't take kindly to it and i hope arizona doesn't get worked up about what is happening to them. martha: how is it working, are you achieving your goals. >> yes. and what precipitated this, the federal government has utterly fallen down on their responsibilities of protecting our nation's borders an functionally turned every state into a border state, and, it is costing us hundreds of millions of dollars and the bottom line on this is if the federal government can't or won't act and i'm beginning to believe it is knot beyond the point of willful indifference, states like oklahoma and arizona will step up to the plate and do so. martha: nine other states are considering laws, similar to the one that arizona just put in place, on their own, and the
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states clearly taking action on this on their own. and... >>' federal... martha: with the federal government, thank you very much, sir. good to have you with us today. >> thank you very much. bill: 27 minutes past the hour and fresh new information, suggesting the times square bombing suspect did not work alone and did not work alone in this country. where the money trail is now leading the fbi. martha: new reaction to attorney general eric holder's testimony on capitol hill, how some republicans were questioning holder over the administration's handling of the war on terror. we'll show you what he said, very interesting. >> it is a sensitivity towards offending terrorists, that just strikes me as unneeded and awkward. [ female announcer ] last year, the u.s. used
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martha: there they are, the proud astronauts who are about to take off on one of the final missions of the shuttle. you know, this has been an extraordinary program to watch. they are getting on the astro-van, and we've watched them do this many times and sometimes we watch them come back on the astro van... before it takes off! but things look good, as they get ready for the mission and a what an exciting moment and they plan their whole careers for this moment and there's a limit to how many more american missions we'll see, there are three left and today this is final scheduled launch for atlantis and this is the third, you know, then the other two will also take off, discovery
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and endeavor will make the final flights and watch the blast off here on fox news channel and there is the video of them getting suited up earlier which is fascinating to watch but it is truly the end of an era. i remember when they first started taking off and what an amazing sight it was and watch them land on the back of the plane and this is you know, potentially the end of the current american space program, going into space, at least, they want to redo it and have more private enterprise involved and we'll see how it works out. bill: over the years of taking it for granted and in fact all of the power and the force, as it takes off, from the east coast of florida. later today. megan will cover that at 2:20 this afternoon, and, where... it is remarkable. one of three remaining, unless nasa changes its mind, you'll see it later today on fox. federal investigators watching the money trail and this is getting fascinating. trying to peiece together the nw
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clues they've uncovered about the plot and three people arrested in the u.s. and one in pakistan and suspects accused of helping the would be bomber faisal shahzad and catherine herridge is live in d.c. and we are talking -- you are talking to a lots of people and what are you learning about the men arrested this week? >> reporter: arrested in the u.s., bill or in pakistan. bill: in the u.s. >> reporter: what we know about the three individuals arrested in the u.s., is that investigators believe that they may be part of this money trail, which helped finance the operation for faisal shahzad and the times square attack. the important question that has not been answered is whether they handled the money knowing what the intent was or whether they handled it, unwittingly. and the system -- the system we are talking about here is the informal banking system that is common in islamic countries and there is no paper trail and as an example if a family in pakistan wanted to wire money to the united states, they wouldn't
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actually wire it through a bank. they could get someone to hand carry it. and another example is two families in pakistan and one family owes the other money, rather than settle the debt in pakistan, the children in the u.s. may exchange money and settle the debt and we are talking about an informal type of banking commonly used in the islamic community and the question is whether these people picked up yesterday knew that money was destined for the bomb, or whether they handled it on -- unwittingly or unknowingly. bill: that is the country and in pakistan they made an arrest also there. what have we learned about that? >> reporter: the "washington post" is reporting that a man has been arrested who claims to be an accomplice of faisal shahzad. we have not confirmed that independently but based on our reporting we know at least 11 people have been picked up, and transferred to the u.s. consulate for questioning by american investigators and among that group, we were told is a
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friend of shahzad who claims he was this intermediator between him and a senior member of the tariki taliban, which the attorney general blamed for the times square attack and whether the individual is the same person, who claims to be the accomplice is still not clear to us at this hour. bill: thanks, good reporting there. out of washington. >> you're welcome. martha. martha: the u.s. coast guard just saying that that massive oil spill is, quote, changing in character, right now. as they revamp their efforts to plug the hole which they've tried to do for a few days, spewing at least 200,000 gallons of oil a day and president obama, meanwhile, is about to speak on the issue and we hear he's not happy with bp's response to the disaster and i'm joined by tucker carlson, a fox news contributor, and juan williams an npr news analyst and a fox news contributor. good morning to you, good to have you here today. >> good morning.
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martha: i remember robert gibbs saying early on we'll keep our boots to the neck of british petroleum. in all of this and today we expect to hear more from the president and the word is he'll be angry at bp with their handling of this. how is it playing out to you? >> well, clearly, the government didn't know the extent of it, and when you ask people at the white house and homeland security and the coast guard what they say is, bp has underestimated the extent of the spillage and in fact now bp is upping the estimates and says they will not have anything potentially capped until well into next week and, again, the volume, the amount of oil going into the gulf and the amount of the solution they are putting into disperse it, is all increasing and that means the amount of damage to the water, to the coastline, to the fishing industry and tourism, is exponential and the government says we didn't know and so, they are caught in a situation where they are asking congress for more money to try to deal with
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potential litigation coming out of this. martha: tucker from a political perspective, we've heard the white house from the beginning wanted to be sure it was not their katrina and they handled it well and now you can almost continue to feel that damage control machine making sure that the focus is all on bp, and, it is their fault and i don't think anybody blames the white house for the spill. what do you think of how they are managing it. >> there is probably no other way to manage it. i think they have the advantage in this, the republican party has been far less organized and insistent on trying to tie it to the obama administration than the democratic party was in trying to tie it to bush and the opponents are not as fierce really as bush's opponents were. martha: but, the response, to be fair is also very different. the human toll... >> there are many things that are different, about this. of course. but, you know, if you were trying to create a narrative you could say, look, president obama took more money from bp than any other politician and, you could
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try and make something out of that. martha: are you trying to make something out of that, tucker? >> no, not necessarily. i'm open minded, on the subject. i truly am and i think, you know, bp is responsible for this. i don't think -- no getting around the basic facts and i'm not eager to blame the president or u.s. government or anybody other than the guilty party which is clearly the people who were running and owned the rig. but the point is, the president kind of has to get out there and get mad and i give him the benefit of the doubt. i'm sure he is mad. martha: the next subject and that is the back and forth between eric holder and lamar smith which goes to the heart of the issue how the administration views the fight against terrorism, that we are in the middle of. let's listen to what lamar smith had to say, we heard from eric holder this morning and this is lamar smith. a quote, let me read it: i don't know why the administration has such difficulty acknowledging the obvious, which is that radical islam might have incited these individuals. if you can't name the enemy,
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then you will have a hard time trying to respond to them. juan, what do you think about that? >> you know, this is all about rhetoric and in essence the administration is saying we don't want to offend people who are muslims and people who are moderate in their views, because if you talk about radical islamists, islamic views, there are people who are muslims who will say it's an attack on all of islam and all people who hold muslim views, that radical islam is not necessarily the problem. as eric holder said, it is not that religion -- the religion it is what some people do and is not necessarily tied to terrorism. you couldn't try in crimes of all people of a certain color or anything... martha: they are being careful, juan, not to point the finger at r radical islam and people have a problem with radical pretty much anything and don't have a problem calling it what it is. tucker, i'm interested, what you think about this. >> his responses were ludicrous
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and pull it up, on your computer, they are worst reading and, they said why are people doing it and he said a lot of reasons, some are potentially religious. do you think? they'll go to any end to deny the obvious and you are right. the qualifier "radical" makes it completely safe an honeon and h tell the truth. nobody is blaming islam, we settled this years ago and no mainstream political figure claimed islam but radical islam, a separate species is the motivating factor and there is no harm in saying it and you are lying if you don't. >> the thing is, there are some people in the islamic community who would argue, you know, this is an indictment of all of islam and is not the way tucker or i hear it, but the way they hear it that counts and creates opportunities for more terrorists to generate more men and women willing to kill themselves and others and the u.s. government has an interest to maitigate it or minimize it..
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martha: and the administration agrees with you, they are bending over backwards to do that. jean, thank you very much. and tucker carlson, thanks, guys, have a good weekend. bill: 19 minutes before the hour and they inspire hope in every one of thousands and now sacrificed in ways many of us can only imagine. our wounded warriors taking on a new challenge, on a very different battleground. this is a great story. we hope you stay tuned. martha: it is wonderful. a story we'll show you in a couple of minutes and then, there is this: generations of americans grew up with her. little orphan annie, never saw her dressed like that, and da dy warbucks, either. ♪ ♪ gonna hang on until tomorrow ♪ come what may ♪ tomorrow, tomorrow...
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>> good morning, i'm jon scott, with jane skinner, we'll see you in 15 minutes, you have heard everybody from the president down in the administration blasting the new arizona immigration law... well, outcomes the attorney general, with an admission, he has not even read the law he has been excoriating. we'll talk with the man who wrote it and get his reaction. >> what is going on in the gulf of mexico and when will the spill be under control, we'll hear from the president, who is responsible -- whose responsibility he sees it ashould the governments be involved, all on bp? we'll hear from the rose garden, coming up. bill: a great story out of colorado we want to share with you and try and find inspiration in the, they inspire all of us, u.s. war veterans, suffer serious injuries on the front lines in afghanistan, and iraq, now facing a different challenge, on a friendlier battlefield, called the wounded warrior games and is happening now in colorado springs, colorado and with me today
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warrant officer housely is competing in those games and is competing in the 200 meter, 400 meter, and the disc, and the cycle and will get like everybody coffee before the thing is all over. and also, brigadier general gary cheek is one of the organizers, good morning to you and thank you for your service. we've followed the wounded warrior projects in various parts of the country but arguably this is where it is all coming together the next four days and concluding this weekend. you were wounded in an ied attack in airaq in 2004. six years ago. can you help us understand where you got the inspiration, and how were you able to meet this new and enormous challenge in your own personal life? to overcome the injury and still continue to be a better man than you were before, jonathan? >> well, my inspiration actually has come a lot of times from other soldiers, and, the
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veterans at walter reed with me, from day one empowered me to know that, no matter what they wanted to do, no matter what i thought i couldn't do, that it was all possible, and, they've always put people in place to assist me and make me realize that, even though i might have lost my leg below the knee, it was still everything i did before, i could probably do it and do it better. >> you once said your philosophy is this, you can find so many blessings, and -- in what others might view as limitations or disabilities. why? >> because a lot of times people might look at you and think because you have a prosthetic or might have lost a arm or ptsd you are not the same person and sometimes when you go through obstacles they make you stronger and it empowers you to look -- dig a little deeper and fight harder to finish that, whatever you setter mind to, your main goal is always to finish it. bill: you have overcome enormous challenges here. and, i mean... how are you able
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to do it? i don't want to give everybody the impression you come home from war and everything is fine and dandy whether you are injured or not. >> family is a big key to that. family support, friends, and even more so, the arm. my command, they've always been supportive in anything i wanted to do, and, the surprising thing is everywhere i have been since i got injured in '04, i have had people around me who have em poured me to move forward and not to give up on anything. bill: wow... general, how is it going out there? you have inspiring men and women. >> i am -- i would just say, it exceeded any of the wildest speck stations, i could have had and there are so many great stories here, and, i will say what we have done this week, really came from observing young men and women like jonathan and the great things they've been able to accomplish and physical activity and getting back into
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life is a huge part of their recovery and building confidence for the future. bill: getting back to life, well stated, gary cheek, the brigadier general in colorado springs and, thank you, men and thank you for your service. our best to everyone there. in colorado this weekend. thanks. martha. martha: what a great event. i mean, you know, these people prove to all of us that, you know, overcoming the kind of things they are able to and doing it in service to your country is remarkable. it makes me... you think how would i deal with something like that, you know. bill: he makes it sound easy and it is so far from the truth. thanks again. martha: we thank them and are glad to have been able to witness it and show it to you all at home and this is coming up. california deep in the red. now, a new effort to rein in the state's budget and it will not be pretty, folks. what the governor is going to do, in california. bill: how about this gold rush,
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bill: you got gold, want gold, try the vending machine in abu dhabi, down the hallway! this machine is called gold to go and gives out 24 carat bars and custom engraved coins every 10 minutes. every 10 minutes, the machine updates the price to reflect a changing value of gold, worldwide. and last spotted around $1240 an ounce. martha: expensive. i remember when it was the 300 range. bill: i know.
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martha: desperate times call for desperate measures and, in the golden state, it is dire. and today, california governor arnold schwarzenegger is releasing his revised budget and a spokesperson says they are proposing, quote, terrible cuts. i don't know how they feel about them, but they are calling them terrible cuts, anita vogel is live and everybody has been waiting for california to get tough about the budget, most of all the people of california. what do you expect? >> reporter: well, martha, let me tell you another word his staff is using is unconscionable. to describe the cuts the governor is proposing, to shore up a $20 billion budget hole. what is on the table here? the elimination of entire left hand mark programs, in california like welfare, which could affect more than 1 million children living in poverty in this state, also programs for the elderly and disabled could be completely wiped out. making the situation worse... the state collected more than a billion dollars less in tax revenues than it expected last month. >> people are beginning to
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recognize that we have a significant level of governance dysfunction in california. and we need to begin to make some changes, in the way the whole process works. >> reporter: and you know, one of biggest problems for california is the way the national recession has hit here, the unemployment rate is extremely high, 12.6%, when fewer people are working, fewer people are paying taxes, that is a big problem, but, don't look for the governor to propose any new taxes, in his budget today. martha. martha: will be interesting, the governor is getting tough in different states around the country, a neat that, thank you so much -- anita, thank you very much, a nenita vogel. bill: and the president is talking about getting tough on bp and we'll hear from them in a matter of minutes and what is happening with the oil on the floor of the gulf of mexico. martha: and check this out, talk about muscle cars... kids in one town are not driving suvs to school. they are driving these... tractors!
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