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>> steve: we're going to talk to dog chapman and beth about the situation in arizona. they've got some very strong feelings about what could have gone wrong. >> brian: that is serious stuff. we'll close it with steve challenging the dog to a shirts off roll. >> steve: are you ready? >> gretchen: log on for the after the show show. >> come on! >> good morning. the healthcare debate just about to begin and the white house is pushing back hard. releasing a new report on the number of americans with preexisting conditions. republicans are saying those numbers don't add up. it's 2011. i'm bill hemmer, welcome to america's newsroom. martha: this new report comes
from the department of health and human services. it claims 129 million americans have preexisting conditions. they are protected from being rejected by insurers. bill: why are the numbers being released today? >> it makes a great headline. 129 million people will be helped by obama-care. that's a large number. is that number accurate? the number of people with the chronic conditions which would exclusion them from private conditions, that's probably far lower. a study conducted by henry waxman from 2011-2009 puts the number at 250,000 people. the study arrived at that big number by including a lot of
people who are bothered, quote, unquote, by a less chronic condition. they chuck those people into the big number. that number is released today perhaps politically because today there is the house vote -- bill: the debate begins today, expect the vote tomorrow. but a lot of republicans agree with that, do they not? you don't want to kick people off preexisting conditions. >> that many right. there is middle ground. a lot of republicans wants high-risk pools that would establish people with chronic conditions that could not get individual insurance policies. so there is common ground there. but republicans overall want to repeal the whole thing and put back in place some of the things which have been in obama-care now. bill: it is the debate of the week. and you have to consider that
the provisions passed in the healthcare law, many of which have not taken place yet and will not for many more years. >> this study, 129 million people sounds good. all those people would be helped by obama-care. but how much does it cost and who is going to pay to make sure all those people get coverage? bill: we have a lot more coming up on this with a cast of thousands, including you, stewart, including you. i catch stewart's show every morning. house republicans expected to vote tomorrow. the senate will not pass a repeal bill and the president would veto it any way. we would like to hear from you. what are the odds republicans
can repeal a portion of healthcare? that many your "you decide" question at foxnews.com. 8,000 votes and we just started the thing. you have got a whole bunch of choices there. martha: it's a 1-2 punch from the white house to shape the conversation. president obama taking to the pages of the "wall street journal." the president who has gone after fat cat bankers, has written an editorial that promises a government-wide review of federal regulations. and the president says if a law hinders job growth then he plans to get rid of it. mike emanuel is joining us from the white house. what exactly is the president ordering be done here? >> reporter: bottom line as
you know, a lot of businesses will tell you excessive regulation kills job growth and the president obama wants to encourage job growth. so his senior aids are saying the president is trying to strike a balance between protecting the health and welfare of the american people while supporting economic growth. the president writing about his executive order in the "wall street journal," quote, it offers a government-wide review of the rules on the books to remove outdated regulations that stifle job creation and make our economy less competitive. the president extending an olive branch to the business communities, trying to encourage them to hire more people. martha: give us an example of what the president so far is highlighting as the success of this effort. >> reporter: he's saying when he took office if you were to buy a truck in the state of
texas, you had on one standard n terms of fuel efficiency. you buy a truck in california and the standard is different. they say they stat down with the auto industry, the unions, the different states and crafted regulations that were con card across the board making it easier for the auto industry and making better standard for the country. martha: it's an appealing idea. we'll see how serious the white house is about getting this done. good to see you this morning. bill: if you are looking for people to blame, critics say look no further than the chinese president himself. he's visiting the white house later today. senator chuck schumer is saying china is not playing fair with its money. he says, quote, the u.s. can't afford to keep losing jobs and wealth because china manipulates
its currency. its currency is like a boot to the throats of our economic recovery. they want to tighten the screws on countries they believe do not play fair with their currency. martha: the progress of congresswoman gabrielle giffords. she is stunning the doctors who are treating her. doctors saying she could be released from the hospital to rehab in days or weeks as she continues to make progress literally every day recovering from a gunshot wound to the he head. her husband has been at her side throughout this entire ordeal. listen to this. >> she stuck her handle up on the side of my face and leaned over and she spent 10 minutes -- this is so typical of her -- she is in the icu.
gone through this traumatic injury and she spent 10 minutes giving me a neck massage. i'm pretty sure she wouldn't do that for somebody else. she reached you have for 10 minutes. i keep telling her, gabby, you are in the icu, you don't need to be doing this. but it's so typical of her, no matter how bad the situation might be for her, she is looking out for other people. martha: she knows he's been in that same position for a long time. astronaut kelly said he would be willing to meet with the parent of jared loughner, the 22-year-old man accused in the massacre. he made clear he doesn't think the suspected acts of the son is the fault of the parents. bill: just listening to him, getting a neck ma snawj the icu.
very touching. sarah palin sending a message to her critics. here she is exclusively with sean on hannity *. she hit back at the news media that accused her as contributing to the tragedy. >> my response four days after his horrendous event. i talked about defending those who were innocent. my defense wasn't self-defense, it was defending those who were falsely accused. i found out right away. when i started tuning in to hear who did this and names were not given, but i read my name in the report. and i read rush limbaugh, and your name, sean, and mark levin, and tea party patriots and the entire state of arizona was being falsely accused of somehow
being accessories to his horrendous crime, that is why i was puzzled at first as to why before the facts were gather had the mainstream media would use such a tragedy for what appeared to be right off the bat for political gain. bill: in addition to that interview, sean talked about a lot of things with palin. should sarah palin throw her hat in the ring? why have so many been so hesitant to throw their hat in the spring a fair and balanced debate coming up on that in 20 minutes. martha: we have breaking news about regis philbin. on capitol hill today house republicans pushing forward to repeal the healthcare law and they are serious. steve king says this thing has got to go. >> i'm not interested in nor
willing to compromise on repealing obama-care. it all has to come out. pull it out by the roots lock, stock and barrel, if not some of that will grow back on us. martha: it won't get past the senate most likely or the president so why are americans bothering. bill: one town is turning to facebook to deal with drunk driving. [ coughs ]
big announcement on his show. he is retiring. he hosts "regis and kelly." he's named in the "guinness book of world records" of having more on-camera time of any person out there. let the speculation begin. we already started moments ago. who will fill that seat next to kelly ripka? bill: maybe he will join oprah. republicans' start the healthcare repeal debate today. a new rasmussen poll shows this. a growing number of americans 18% wants too leave the law as is.
28% say replace the most unpopular parts. what don't you do? >> i don't practice medicine anymore and i miss it very much. my work in the congress is a heavy list and i'm thoroughly enjoying it. this is my 9th year. bill: can republicans afford to bring this up? >> we have to bring it up. this was a promise made to the american people. many of the new members, 87, the 63 new republicans campaigned on this pledge, on this prom is and they were elected because of that. the american people and you mentioned at the top of the show, the rasmussen poll. 18% -- that's a growing number. it hasn't grown have much. 18% want us to keep the bill as is. but 75% in that same poll want
us to either outright repeal or repeal and replace, or keep the bill but gut as much as we can. so 75%. bill: the overwhelming majority, they do like some aspects of the law. so where do the minds meet on which issues? >> i won't say the majority like what's in the law. 47% don't. thursday morning we'll have a vote which will direct the committees of jurisdiction in the house. ways and means, energy and commerce to begin replacement bills. but we'll have that vote wednesday evening to repeal the bill. it will pass. we might have 8 or 10 democrats who will vote to repeal. bill, 8, 10, maybe 15. but my point was, there are aspects of the law some
americans like. the preexisting conditions. there seems be agreement on both sides when it comes to that. preexisting conditions you cannot be kicked out of your insurance company. where else do you find common ground? >> with regard to the preexisting conditions we can do that outside patient protection. we can clearly do that. we can say to insurance companies, if an employee has worked for a number of years and developed health problems, coronary artery disease, type 2 diabetes and if they want to take another job and go to another company, that health insurance company should continue to rate that individual at standard rates. the states can create and have don't, high risk pools where the charge for those individuals is no more than 2, 2 1/2 times
standard rates. if they are low income, the state and federal government can help them without the federal government take over healthcare lock, stock and barrel. bill: at 10:00 there is a report out of washington that says 100 million americans under 65 have preexisting conditions. do you feel you have lost any momentum in your push to repeal healthcare? >> i don't think so. we for the last week -- and we continue to pray with all our heart and souls for the families of the 6 victims that were killed, for the speedy and complete recovery. especially our colleague gabrielle giffords. our republican leadership in respect for them very appropriately suspended all legislation last week as you know. it's time to get back to doing the people's work. and that's what we do this week.
we have got to do these responsible things because the american people have asked us to do that. th is our charge. bill: thank you for your time. get back to washington. thank you, live in georgia today. martha, what's next? martha: our next guest says republicans should call their bluff on raising the debt ceiling. tim pawlenty says now is the time for tough medicine. he will be here in america's newsroom. bill: one of candidate obama's biggest promises, close gitmo. two years later it's still open for business. what's happening on the southeastern edge of the island of cuba. >> make no mistake.
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bill: we have a lot of snow on the ground on the east coast. a couple feet in some areas. these are pictures from oregon. two swollen rivers near mount hood cresting. several people trapped in floodwaters when a mountain pass washed away. the state of washington. the snoqualmie river is at flood stage. people in low-lying areas facing the threat of flooding. they are under threat for high water in the pacific northwest. martha? martha: philadelphia police say they have the strangler in
custody. he's wanted in the gruesome serial murders of tee women and attacks on three other women who survived and got away from him. good morning, julie. >> reporter: the tip came in by an anone husband caller after police announced the dna evidence linked rodriguez to the murder of three women. he was a convicted felon. so this dna had been collected when he was released from jail on a prior arrest and it was a match. his name and picture were released to the public and it didn't take long for the police to arrest him. they found him sitting in a kitchen in a philadelphia home. he's believed to have recently
wandering the street and staying in different abandoned buildin buildings. >> i'm thank you for the task force working long, hard hours trying to bring this case in. it came in with dna. people in the kensington area can rest easy since we got this brutal killer off the streets. >> the neighborhood feeling terrorized. police even feared locals would take matters into their own homes. the bodies all found within a 10-block radius. three other women reported surviving sexual assault. two of them say they were choked into unconsciousness, but they survived. we are waiting for more slab testing. we are waiting for them to officially charge rodriguez with
the murders. martha: thank you so as much, julie banderas. bill: it's do getting a lot of attention down there, too. you and i were talking about who is going to challenge president obama. martha: we are excited already for the 2012 election. bill: a fair and balanced debate coming up. martha: oil prices hovering dangerously close to $100 a barrel. as we head into the summer months what are we going to see in gas prices, and can this economy sustain that? eric bolling coming straight up. your blood sugar. you exercise and eat right, but your blood sugar may still be high, and you need extra help. ask your doctor about onglyza, a once daily medicine used with diet and exercise to control high blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes.
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bill: as wall street opens, all eyes on the stock of am. the market getting -- the stock of apple. the announcement that steve jobs is taking time off for medical leave. that raises questions about apple's leadership and how his absence will affect the company. apple reports earnings as well. if you own a 401k, chances are you own some shares of apple. if you can afford that it might
be a buying opportunity. 9:31 in new york. we are watching that for you. martha: america' elect headquarters. is the president on a roll. there is a slight surge in his job approval rating. what's going through the minds. if you are a pea tension gop candidate how are you going to play this game. deck cheny reiterating his belief that he believes the president is a one-termer. but the top contenders are mum on their intentions whether they are going to get into this race. mary cardona is a former communications director at the dnc, and mary catherine ham. a lot of buzz about this. the person that seems to get the
most attention in all of this on the gop side is sarah palin. let's listen to what she had to say last night. >> they can't make us sit town and shut up. if they were to succeed in doing that then our republic will be destroyed. not necessarily me being sat down and shut up, but having the voice of respectful dissent being shut up, that would destroy our republic. martha: all these contenders want to know what sarah palin is going to do. >> nobody knows what she's going to do. most of the other guys who would like to run for the gop nomination would like to know what she is going to do. she indicated in the past she would wait to see what other folks get in or she implied that if somebody didn't meet her expectations for a conservative candidate, maybe she would jump in. i don't feel like i'm hurting
that nobody is in the race yet. i don't feel that we need to start any sooner. martha: we started early last time. it was the first time in 50 year we had a completely open contest without a vp who seemed to be the prominent person to take over. >> i think that has a lot to do with why we haven't seen a big rush on the gop side to get in this race. 2011race. 2007, 2008, a different cycle. we have an incumbent president who is looking very, very strong. clearly i disagree with cheney, i think obama will be rye elected quite easily. i think people were reminded during this speech in tucson how
formidable a communiquer to he can be and in the video how small sarah palin has shrunk. that's what gop contenders are looking at. they are looking at each other in terms what they are going to do. what do you say about that? what happened in tucson make the president seem more of a leader and sarah palin smaller? >> i think he certainly handled the situation well. he acted like a president. he didn't get too political about it as many on the left were trying to do. i think it's unfair to say sarah palin should be compared with his speech. he was not spending the week being adeuced of aiding and abetting murder. maybe that's why her speech was more testy than his. even though, it was a pretty decent speech. i think obama is looking strong.
there are also indications the republican congress has made some improvements, including the fact that they pull with him on healthcare reform. martha: if you are advising one of these gop contenders, put on that hat for a moment. what would you tell them in terms of timing. you need to raise money, you need to organize and you need to get your act together, and it takes a long time. >> fit was one of the current frontrunners, mitt romney, governor huckabee and tim pawlenty is getting great play with his book tour. i would say hold out as long as you can because you are somebody who can continue to get press coverage. governor huckabee has his show clearly. they always will have platforms to speak from. delay as long as you can so you don't have to spend that serious
money or raise that serious money. martha: we'll ask them when he comes on the show a few minute from now. we'll see you soon. coming up. he says republicans should fight to stop democrats from raising the u.s. debt ceiling. he stuck his neck out on his issue. he says we have to hold fast to that and not raise the debt ceiling. former minnesota governor tim pawlenty joins us. he's been mentioned as a possible republican candidate in 2012. and he joins me. bill: the white house rolling out the red carpet for the chinese president hu jintao. but behind the curtains the stakes could not be higher. the calls growing in congress for china to play fair with its currency. how does that affect you?
>> the chinese currency war has invaded the u.s. on the top of the agenda, cite six say is the undervaluation of the chinese currency the yuan. the state run bank of china lets customers exchange dollars for the chinese money at this branch in chinatown. so instead of withdrawing green backs you gets the stuff in your wallet with money with the portrait of mao. analysts say letting americans buy the chinese currency is a way for china to spread the yuan as a global force. they are under criticism for undervaluing this currency by as
much as 40%. china is anker pore driven economy though they have domestic potential. the average person makes $2,000 to $3,000 a year. their economy is dependent on exports to drive it and that requires cheap currency. >> reporter: the currency has risen by 25%. the government has limited imports that are not designed in china. that hurts u.s. exports. china want to replace the dollar as the standard for currency. bill: aaron sean, thank you, live in new york. it's a big deal. .
martha: the highest, more formal invitation we can offer to another country, and there are tense times between our two countries. the white house says not raising the debt ceiling would be an economic catastrophy if we were to let that happen. but former governor tim pawlenty says republicans should quote call their bluff. >> you have to be willing to stand up to a culture, a history, a pattern, 21% spending in my state for four years and say we are not doing that anymore. i'm glad we had that showdown in minnesota. martha: what he thinks the new congress needs to do to tackle our money problems. male announr ] while othe are content to imitate, we'll continue to innovate. the lexus rx. why settle for a copy when you can own the original? see your lexus dealer.
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huntington beach wants to start posting mug shots of everybody arrested more than once. their faces will go up on facebook. a local lawmaker hopes shaming offenders will help stop drunk driving. bill: let's call their bluff. that's what the former governor of minnesota, tim pawlenty, says to challenge republicans officer raising the debt ceiling. tim pawlenty the former governor out of minnesota is with me. i hope you are staying warm up there in minnesota. you get a lot of questions about whether you are running for office and what your next job will be. there is a position at abc because regis is stepping down. i watched your interview with chris wallace sunday with great interest. i'm going to start with your local state issues.
if you do run for the white house this is what a lot of the voters will look to. they will look at your record. the last time i checked the minnesota has a $6 million deficit. how do you con vine people you are a deficit hawk and you will bring that number down so we are not looking at $14 trillion. >> i was governor for eight years. every two years our budget was balanced as it's required to be. as i leave office the balanced budget which end next summer is balanced. but for the two years after that there is a projected $6 billion deficit. but that projection assumes a $27% increase in state spending. that's ridiculous. so that is a hypothetical based on a ridiculous premise. as for me being a deficit hawk.
the 40-year spending average in my state was 20% every two years. i got that down to 1%. there is only four governors in the country that got an "a" from the tough grading cato institute. bill: i don't know how you break that cycle. illinois is not doing it. is minnesota ready to do it? >> politicians will only make tough choices when their backs are up against the wall. that's why this debt ceiling is an opportunity, not a crisis. that's what i mean by saying let am not raise it. let's send the president a bill that takes away his false choice saying we raise the debt ceiling or default. you can have the treasury pay in priority order. then force the debate to be on
those things that are within the discretion of the federal government. if you sign the bill like that there would be no default. and then we could get to the heart of the matter which is breaking up and fixing the ponzi scheme which is the united states federal government's spending. bill: the logic you employ goes along the lines of what we have heard from leading republic chance in the house, from john boehner and eric cantor. but what they are saying -- the point they diverge from you is they will have to raise the debt ceiling anyway, but they will only do it if they get certain spend spg cuts on behalf of democrats. would you agree to that? would that be the equivalent of calling them on the bluff? >> my approach is a little different to say don't raise the debt ceiling. then take the next step of sending the president a bill that sequences, directs the spending in priority order so there is no default.
there is enough cash flow in the united states government's intake of money. bill: you tie china, you take care of our military. >> then you have the debate as to the rest of the money. the intergovernmental accounts which owe each other money. then you are the debate how to reduce that spending and it can be done. on way it will be done is to force this kind of showdown. bill: you also argue, and you said this repeatedly. this debate how to restructure is inevitable. whether it happens today, a year from now or two years from now which sounds like a campaign policy in 2012 or a campaign argument. today when you make this case, this is if you get in the ring, this is how you will go about your campaign. it seems to me like this is your
number one issue. bring down the debt and the deficit. and this will be your number one campaign issue. do i have that right? >> regardless of whether it's me or somebody else, this is the most important issue facing the country. if we don't fix this relatively soon it will take down our economy from within it's a ponzi scheme. it's broken. it's not right versus left. it's matter of 8th grade mathematics. anybody can look at a chart and see the spending obligations and the revenue. they don't colorado close to lining up. we know the answers. they have been white papered. now the question is do we have the courage and the fortitude to actually do it? that's why this debt ceiling issue is not a crisis, it's an opportunity. we can force the issue. bill: do you think the republican leadership in the house has that courage? >> i have a lot of confidence in john boehner and eric cantor and
the team leading the house. and the republican team overall. they have to lead as they campaigned and they said they would fix this stuff. there is a way to dial you have the pressure to get even more change than people believe is possible and avoid the default. the defaults premise for the president to say we are going to default, that's not the choice in front of us. bill: on that question, that's a question, that's an affirmative. do i hear it right? >> which question. bill: the house leadership that's currently involved. >> of course i respect the house leadership. i think john boehner will be a great speaker. bill: i get the hunch many, many times over the next few years that we'll speak again. 10 minutes before the hour. here is martha. martha: in some respect it sounds like 2008 all over again. gas prices are rising.
egypt there could be 10 million christians there. there was a brutal start to the new year with the bombing of a church. more than 50 dead. it has sparked uprising from christians asking for protections. in iraq the attack was last october. more than 50 killed on a siege on a catholic church. radical muslims labeled christians as tied to the west, essentially trying to make them part of the west. the christians were there long before the muslims were there in the middle east. outside of the middle east it's not only christians paying the price, there is a huge debate in pakistan over its blaf i is bla. the moderate governor was killed when he spoke out against that law. basically the pope spoke about
religious freedom and spoke out against the blasphemy law in pakistan. the response to him, burn the pope in effigy. martha: thank you very much. bill: did see the interview with dick cheney. telling us about his heart condition. really doing a show and tell with doctors and technology. they are keeping him alive. phenomenal. he's talking about the issues of the day. dick cheney says president obama is a one-term president. he says he obama is adopting a lot of policies put in place by president bush. brit hume addresses both issues coming up. martha: president obama says he's launching a review of government rules and regulations to make sure they are not redunn danlts. george pataki weighs in:
martha: boy, one of the big headlines today, gas prices starting to come dangerously ose to levels we really haven't seen in a couple of years. and they are on their way back to $100 a barrel. some observers say and, oil prices back up a little bit after opec announced they would up the output, you see the game go on, back and forth, the usual. but it is not 2008 any more when we were at the beginning of the very fragile economy. $4 a gallon could, some economists say have far-reaching impacts on our economy. that is how we start a new hour of "america's newsroom." welcome, everybody, it is great to have you with us, i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning, you remember a couple summers ago, how much attention it was getting. martha: $5 a gallon. bill: and check out the past 6 months, in august, just over $81 bought you a barrel of oil with the exception of september, costs have steadily risen to $92
a barrel today. martha: and we pulled through the surge of '08 well but it could be a bumpier ride with our fragile state, the real estate and job market under so much pressure, eric bolling joins us now, anchor of "follow the money" and why does it portend a more difficult situation this time around knew outline -- time around. >> you outlined it perfectly, we had a robust economy, and late '07, early 20089 thin thou2008 going well and now prices are climbing, 91, $29 a barrel for oil and $3.10, national average for a gallon of gasoline on the heels of a world global economy that is not growing and doing everything right.
and so the concern is if the things start to turn around and the recession is over and the economy starts to grow again, where does oil stop this time and my question, $147 will be the thing of the past and they'll look back and say i wish it was only $147 a barrel. absolutely, absolutely, martha. martha: really? what is driving the prices higher? because the global economy, there are places where, it is perking up, but, this is not a robust recovery, by any means. >> absolutely not a robust recovery at all. we have a lot of cheap, free money, globally, not just in the u.s., our treasury secretary tim geithner, our fed chairman ben bernanke telling us, put more money out there and when you put a lot of free money into the system it drives prices for everything up and first thing to go, oil, always the first thing to go, oil, next thing, food and we are seeing both of those happening and on top of that, opec met end of last week in quito, ecuador and said $100 a barrel does not sound bad and we need the money and they are more than willing to see the prices
spike above $100 a barrel. my guess is, though, if you add all of the influences, free and cheap money and a global recovery and opec, 147 will be a thing we hope for and strive for at some point, unless, unless, we start to drill here and drill the vast resources of oil and hydro carbons we have here in the u.s. martha: everybody is doing it but us, along our coast and our shores. >> they are drilling our -- accessing our oil, under the ground -- martha: who is stealing our oil, eric. >> cuba, a bunch of oil companies from around the world are making nice with cuba so they can drill into the ocean bed and guess what, access some of the oil that we could be accessing, if we were allowed to. martha: unbelievable. 30 miles off our shore, other people are drilling or oil in places we are fighting not to tap into. a crazy scenario. eric, thank you very much, eric bolling. >> thanks, martha.
martha: fox business network. follow the money, every night at nine except thursday. bill: we are waiting for the debate to begin on the hill on health care. republicans will start their march to repeal the health care overhaul and republican leaders are determined to move forward, hoping democrats will jump on board. we believe some of them will. in the end, out many, we do not know, karl is on that story, good morning, karl. it appears, the white house is putting a full-court press on the preexisting conditions in advance over the debate. what is happening? good morning. >> reporter: good morning, bill. part of this is the preexisting conditions, they argue, the protection against being disqualified from your insurance coverage would be repealed as part of the republican health care repeal, 8 to 15 democrats may actually cross the aisle and vote with republicans on the repeal and the debate starts later this afternoon or this evening, and it -- in advance of it all, the administration and house democrats are trying to present the unified front and the health and human services secretary, secretary sebelius,
today as we speak is beginning a news conference on the telephone, in which they are making the argument, based upon an hhs study, as many as 129 million americans could actually lose their insurance coverage because of preexisting conditions. and there's a wide, wide range, maybe as few as 50 million, 20% of the population, as many, up to as many as 129, which would be half, a little bit less than half and that is their report today and that is their argument and they say, the health care repeal would undo that protection against being disqualified by a preexisting condition with your insurance and later this afternoon, nancy pelosi and the house democrats will hold a mock hearing, essentially a meeting of the steering policy committee and will take testimony from folks they say will make the case that undoing health care reform was it was inacted christmas eve of 2009, would put people in jeopardy. bill: you assume it passes on the house side and harry reid
says, i will not take it up on the senate floor. what happens then. is that it. >> reporter: no, it's not because that is only the context of a full-blown repeal which the house will pass. but, the president himself has said there are things that he believes could be modified in what is now law. and, so, how the president and the white house play in the next couple of months, really does mart and the 1099 mandate, and on -- an onerous fine, some say, should be adjusted and though the senate will not take up a repeal, you have harry reid and charles schumer and other who said there should be some things and it will be interesting in the state of the union, you have dr. tom coburn, the conservative senator of oklahoma sitting next to new york senator chuck schumer who says, yes, there are some things that could be modified. bill: it will be an interesting day, thank you, carl. martha: former vice president
dick cheney sat down for an interview, the first time he has done anything since the surgery that he underwent to implant a pump in his heart. he says that he is not -- has not yet decided whether he'll seek a transplant for what he called end-stage heart failure. he was in the interview i would say, overall, mostly critical of the white house and his a-- in his assessment but praised mr. obama for embracing bush era policies on national security. >> he obviously has been through the fires of becoming president, and having to make decisions and live with the consequences and i think he's learned that what we did was far more appropriate than he ever gave us credit for, while he was a candidate. so, i think he's learned from experience. martha: very interesting, he went on to say president obama's policies have expanded government and the deficit, repeating his prediction of a one-term presidency for president obama, and, political analyst brit hume will weigh in
on what the former vice president had to say, coming up just ahead, right here on "america's newsroom." bill: meanwhile, congresswoman gabrielle giffords continuing to make progress in her recovery from a gunshot wound to the head. doctors say she may be transferred to a rehab facility very soon. her husband, mark kelly, seen anoint, taken a week ago said she gave him a 10-minute neck massage. martha: unbelievable. bill: and kelly saying he'd be willing -- get this now -- willing to meet with the parents of the shooting suspect, jared loughner. casey steegel is outside the ever-growing memorial there. how is he doing, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, for days we have been standing outside, at university medical center here telling you about the remarkable recovery gabrielle giffords is making inside. all the while this memorial here has been growing, right here on the lawn of the hospitals. and, we wanted to show you a more indepth look.
look at this, a wreath made out of children's hands, hands working together. and, you know, there are literally thousands of candles all over the lawn here, balloons, flowers, it is one of the most really impressive things i have seen in a long time. the memorial has grown more and more each day, thousands of people have been streaming through here since the shooting last weekend and look at this poster, honoring christina taylor green the nine-year-old killed in the senseless shooting and as we continue to go down the line we are talking about a lot of hand-made things from children, get well soon, your love, oh, lord reaches to the heavens, your faithfulness to the skies, a lot of bible verses and the memorial is two-fold, not only to send well wishes for the people inside, like congresswoman giffords, two other patients still in the hospital but, it is also for their own healing. listen: >> i think it gives me a little bit of peace to come here and
see what the people of tucson are doing for those who are healing here in the hospital. >> i think people come here to get a sense of peace and feel the love and just hoping for fast recoveries. >> come together, for each other and like my children, obviously, are experiencing something of great magnitude for their young lives and i'm glad we are here and a part of it. >> reporter: memorials are set up like this all over tucson, not just the hospital, but the congresswoman's office and at the safe way supermarket where the shooting happened. bill: casey, what more do we know about the husband, saying that he would be willing to meet with the shooter's family? >> reporter: that is what he told diane sawyer in that interview. he said that it was not the fault of jared lee loughner's parents, and he said that he would like to think that he was a forgiving person and that he thought that they were perhaps hurting the most in all of this.
a pretty bold statement and, you know, really says a lot about his character. bill: indeed, casey, thank you, casey steegel, live in tucson for us this morning. now. martha. martha: president obama doing writing, took to the pages of "the wall street journal" and promised an overhaul of onerous federal regulation and, it is a very interesting take from president obama in this morning's "wall street journal." what will be the first to go in those regulations, a lot of businesses are watching this closely, i assure you. former new york governor george pataki will be here in "america's newsroom" and weigh in on the president's executive order after this break. bill: also, what happens when it starts raining and snowing and doesn't stop for days at a time? you get pictures like... these. >> we got a call from the neighbors and they said it was flooding and we came out and found mud and water up almost to the door knob. i have never seen anything like this at all. this is like... terrible. really, really scary.
bill: there was a significant storm in the pacific northwest dumping torrential rain in washington and oregon. major flooding as a result, check out this incredible video here. that is the river in flood stage pushing water over the falls and people living in low-lying areas under high alert, facing threat of high water in another system moves in. martha: when you opened the "wall street journal" this morning you saw the president wrote an op-ed in the paper today and says the administration is already reviewing -- all about regulation and reviewing regulations and looking at the cost-cutting regulations that could be hampering the recovery and job building in the country and says as an executive order i am signing makes clear we are seeking more affordable, less intrusive means to achieve the same ends, giving careful consideration to benefits and costs. what does it mean? let's bring in former new york
governor george pataki and now chairman of revere, america. >> good morning, martha, how are you. martha: many felt president obama has not been their side, and the fat cat bankers, et cetera that alienated, is the business community and is this an outreach. >> yes. he understands they got clobbered in the november elections because they were treating businesses as secondary citizens as a time we ned to create jobs and this is a wonderful expression of words and the problem is, too often, in this administration the words don't match the actions. martha: yes, so, the idea is here, talks about redundancies in federal regulations and if you have something happen at your business -- >> it is all -- >> you will be visited by a bunch of agencies and forms this big to pull out and it is extremely onerous. >> and not just at the federal level, when i was elected one of the first things i did was create an office of regulatory
reform and they repealed or changed thousands of regulations, but the problem is we have wonderful words, from the president, saying the right thing. but, at the same time, the epa is trying to regulate carbon and enact cap-and-trade through regulations, at a time when congress is saying, no, we don't want this, so, what we need to see is not just the words, we need see actions. martha: that is such a good point, an area to bring up one specific not mentioned in the president's editorial, it's not customary for the epa to tell car companies how to run their business. >> right. martha: which we are seeing here, right. >> not just car companies, every business in america. the epa says you have to measure your carbon output and pay a tax, if you don't start to reduce it and that is a perfectly appropriate thing for congress to debate. they have and congress doesn't want to pass it and the american people don't want it and now the obama administration looks like they are trying to ram it through administratively and the words the president expressed are wonderful. the fact is they are not consistent with the actions, and
it is the same, you mentioned revere america and the health care bill. the health care bill, every business in america if they do $600 worth of business with a company, has to file a 1099. if you are a small business and go to a copier and over the course of a year get -- $600, you have to fill out federal forms and the words are wonderful but the actions have not met the words at all. martha: look at the overall picture and vice president cheney said he feels that the president has been on a learning curve that helped him to appreciate some things vice president cheney and bush did with regard to terrorism. now he's reaching out to the business community. are we seeing, do you think, is it possible we are seeing a change in the way the president is dealing with the u.s. economy and where the engines really are. >> i hope so. i think it is too soon to say but certainly, the words are saying that. the out reach, he's reach out to the u.s. chamber of commerce which was one of the leading opponents of obama care. but let's see what happens over the course of the next month. will he get behind the efforts to repeal and replace obamacare
and tell his epa you cannot in that cap-and-trade through regulation, you have to do it if it is going to be done through congress. will he in fact back up his words with actions? we'll know that probably within the next few weeks. martha: and, we'll want to see the actual regulations and, the words turn into actions and they'll hold their feet to the fire, no doubt. we'll see what happens. >> they should. martha: governor george pataki, always good to see you. >> catch you at kinko's, i guess, right? what is the old phrase, making copies... that is what we are! martha: making copies! bill: former vice president, dick cheney, calling mr. obama a one-termer and he said that before and why he says there are similarities between this administration and the bush team. also, a u.s. ally holding a public missile test, well, what happens when that test flops? [ phones ping, buzz ]
martha: new questions over u.s. allies defense system after a missile test in taiwan fizzled, 6 out of 19 missiles missed their targets and that may be embarrassing for taiwan but some reports suggest, they were designed to show the country is not prepared for an attack by china and for washington to give them better stuff to work with, i guess. bill: and, drills taking place as china's president heads to the white house. meanwhile, experts are taking a closer look at what appears to be and adds vaned chinese stealth fighter and there is the president, hu jintao and they are looking at designs, whether it was copied from american designs. what is the level of u.s.
concern on this, jennifer? >> reporter: well, the pentagon is concerned, but what they are really concerned about is this surge in chinese military spending in the last 20 years. looks at the numbers. first of all, china may not be able to match the u.s. military in strength, for 10 to 20 years but in the last ten years added 30 submarines to the navy, compared to the u.s. navy which commissioned one submarine during the same time period and the past 20 years china's defense expend tour has gone up 464%, in 1990 -- 1999, spending township $100 billion and u.s. defense expend tour, in 1990, the u.s. was spending $504 billion, in 2009, $663 billion. and that is up 30% over the same time period. and, with current budget cuts, the pentagon is finding that it
may be hard to keep up with the 3% growth rate, compared to china's 10% growth rate in the military expenditure. >> with the disclosure of the stealth fighter, jennifer, d americans think it is made with chinese technology? >> reporter: i'm afraid that when you talk to air force officials here in the pentagon, and former intelligence officers, who -- within the air force, they suggest that that is simply laughable. they say looking at it it looks like a replica of an f-22 made by lockheed martin and many i spoke to at the pentagon said they may have acquired the technology through cyber exploitation, in other words, espionage and others say it is difficult to prove that but there are more than a thousand assaults a day assumed to have come from china on the pentagon computer system. listen lieutenant general david
deptul have. who retired as an intelligence officer, just three months ago. >> what it should be is a "wake-up call" for the strategic complacency of those who believe the u.s. will continue to maintain air and aiful dominance in the pacific, the first flight of the j-20 is clearly evidence that the chinese will continue to grow in capability and develop anti-access threats an capabilities, to dominate that region of the world. >> reporter: the general has suggested that capping the f-22 fighter jet line which secretary gates did last year was a mistake, and that simply by producing 12 planes a year, on that line, the u.s. will be able to keep a strategic dominance, especially in light of this j-20 technology, which has now been show cased in china during secretary gates' vsit last
week. bill: in the spotlight this week, for certain, jennifer, jennifer griffin at the pentagon. martha: a thousand computer assaults a day. unbelievable. we're talking about the interesting interview former vice president dick cheney did and in it he had praise for president obama and he has been scant on praise, for president obama and what aspect of his presidency is he pleased with. bill: a good question and regis making news, what is up with reg? we'll tell you, minutes away. nf]fídn/xçyyxññw8woññó
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and when it's added to occasionally unbalanced digestive systems... they can become lanced again. align. great digestion through scienc martha: here is what is cooking in "america's newsroom," the northeast is hit with a mix of snow and sleet and forecasters say you could get up to 4 inches of snow but the ice is making roads tricky in the northeast today and the market reacting to the news that steve jobs will take his second leave of absence. everybody was watching apple stock, down 4%, $15 lower. just over $330 a share, so, a very pricey stock and "the associated press" is reporting regis philbin is retiring from his morning show, he told us, and has been doing the show 25 years and is named in "guiness book of world records" as having more on-camera time than any person out there, and bill
hemmer is -- >> actually, you know, a decades ago when it comes to regis, good man, age 79. well done, going, going, going... former vice president dick cheney speaking out for the first time since surgery to install a pump in his heart, which is phenomenal technology and in the the interview showed how he is able to pump blood through his heart and this is part of what he believes they're weak spots in president obama's policies. listen here. >> i think he embarked upon a course of action when he became president that did not avenue as much support as he thought it did. and that once he got into the business for example, with the health care reform, expanding the size of governments and expanding the deficit those are weakness as i look at barack obama i think he'll be a one-term president. bill: the interview from nbc and brit hume is with us, fox news senior political analyst. how are you doing, brit. >> fine, bill, thanks. bill: he said he'll be a
one-termer before and i guess that is not a major headline. i guess, it would have been a major headline if he said he'll win a second term but, more to the point is what he said about the policies and the points of change he's making is about bigger government and this is something he has been going against -- you need water, go for it. need time. >> i'm fine, thanks. bill: i guess that goes back to even when he was in the white house, with president ford, 1975 and dick cheney's view that bigger government is bad government. >> i think that is right. but, also, i think he is trying to assess -- well... excuse me, bill -- policies he disagrees with, and the country suggested in the last election it disagreed with, but the main burden, of course, remains the economy, and, former vice president cheney, is looking at the same set of prognostications the rest of us are looking at, job growth is going to remain sluggish the next two years and,
the unemployment rate remains high, which is a very, very high bench for a president seeking re-election to climb. bill: and he talked about health care, and other big government programs. i'll give you a minute to catch your breath, if you need it. >> i'm fine. yeah, he did and, interesting, it was an interesting interview, interesting to see him, because you can see the effects of time and heart trouble that he has fought on his face, but, he sounds good and remains as lucid as ever. so, it is interesting. bill: there was another headline from this, how he reflected on how the administration has followed the policies of the previous administration. and, what he pointed to was guantanamo bay that has not been closed. what he pointed to were the predator drones, carrying out the war of afghanistan and now in northwestern pakistan. all of those policies he says were initiated by him and then
president bush. and i think the point he makes on that, the larger point is once you are president, these are very difficult things to reverse, because, now you see the difficult choices they made and why they made them. >> i think that is true, bill, certainly the president has had to reconsider a number of things. and, possibly now, also, his -- the idea articulated by his attorney general to hold the trial of leading terror suspects on american soil. you know, that is another one and, of course perhaps the most conspicuous one was we now have in mrplace after a compromise h agreed to and had to go along with were the tax rates introduced by president bush in two separate pieces of legislation he got through congress and that is major legislative initiative, really, that he wore he would not stick
with and has been forced to. >> a great point and on hisseth -- health, you spent a lot of time with him over the years. how do you think he's doing. >> he's doing pretty well. he has quite serious heart disease, and, you know, has been thought -- i can remember people were writing during the first bush term that cheney wouldn't make it is, that he would become too sick or might even die, and, yet here he is and he remains vigorous and has a book coming out and remains -- he doesn't -- he's sparing in his public appearances but he always has been and so, he seems to be doing well. we're working on a project about him, going forward, and i was talking to liz, his daughter, and she said he's doing well and feeling great. there you go. bill: looking forward to seeing that, when it airs, brit hume, out of washington. thank you. martha: well, we talked about a
lot here in "america's newsroom" and california has the largest debt burden in the country. the state is facing a $28 billion budget deficit, try and wrap your head around that number over the next 18 months and governor jerry brown has a plan to rescue the golden state from financial ruin and it involves changes in how the state conducts business. claudia cowan is live from san francisco, this morning, hey, claudia. >> reporter: good morning, martha, hearings are underway right now in sacramento as lawmakers take a closer look at governor brown's plan to reduce the massive budget deficit. and, have the first-on time balanced budget in california in many, many years, the new governor outlined the spending plan last week and along with calling for deep spending cuts and more taxes, the proposal seeks to fundamentally reorganize state government and wants voters to extend for five years atrio of taxes to top $12 billion and are due to expire this summer and wants to give
the money to cities and counties so they can assume control of many state services including mental health, foster care and child welfare. >> in that way there will be greater accountability, transparency and, hopefully, citizen participation because government will be closer to the people. >> brown's plan to extend taxes will require support from republicans, who have vowed to oppose all taxes, and, it is a politically risky move, too, voters jeektrejected an extensi taxes two years ago and, it is worried heap chip away at proposition 13, the measure that limited property tax and created a 2/3 vote requirement for new taxes, and, saved californians $500 billion since it was pass back in 1978. changing any part of prop 13 would require voter approval which is highly unlikely, but governor brown says he's now determined to try to convince lawmakers and voters that
government accounting tricks will no longer work and now is the time and he has the plan to finally fix california's chronic budget problems. martha, he is hoping to get legislative approval for his spending plan by march so that a tax extending special election can happen in june. and, then he can finally pass and on-time budget here in california, for the first time in many, many yearses. by july 1st. back to you. martha: that will be quite an achievement, an interesting turn of events for jerry brown claudia, thank you very much. bill: if he is successful he'll shock a lot of people, because you thought meg whitman, the republican and all of her career in -- on the private sector, that she would be the one to lead california out of its, what, $20 billion debt. martha: $20 billion debt and you have jerry brown and andrew cuomo sounding like chris christie of new jersey, but everybody has to address the problem and one way or another have to get at it. bill: in a moment we mentioned it was one of president obama's biggest promise, close gitmo
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not seek re-election. in 2012, this is a senator who came off the debt commission, that met for 8 months. this is part of a statement now, as it goes to the deficit, there are serious challenges facing our state and nation, like a $14 trillion debts and america's dependence on foreign oil and quote it is more important that i spend my time and energy trying to solve those problems than to be distracted by a campaign for re-election. here's the sitting u.s. senator who believes he is more powerful and can have more influence outside of the senate body, apparently, according to the statement than he can as a sitting senator. and the democrat will not seek re-election, in 2012. kents conrad, coming out, right now, out of north dakota. martha: two years ago, this week, president obama promised that he would shut down guantanamo bay detention center within a year. listen to this. >> president barack obama:... order to effect the appropriate disposition of individuals currently detained by the department of defense at
guantanamo. and, promptly close the detention facility at began guantanamo consistent with the national security and foreign policy interests of the united states and interest of justice, i here by order that. and, we then provide the process whereby guantanamo will be closed, no later than one year from now. martha: no later than one year from now, january of '09 and now it is two years from that date and as we all know, it is still up and running with more than 170 prisoners, still being held at guantanamo bay. so, what is the hold-up? what is going on with this and with the trials that we're all waiting for? here now is a former deputy assistant secretary of defense for detainees and senior legal fellow for the heritage foundation. good morning, good to see you. >> hi, martha, good to see you. martha: the president was emphatic about this and of course there have been a number of big distractions including
the economy from the issue and why not set it down if he felt so -- shut the it down if he felt so strongly about that. >> he decided not to spend political capital to close it and keeps calling it a top national security priority yet has not sought legislation from his own party which was in power the first two years in office and he has not referred cases to commissions and has not done the things, politically, he needed to do to force the closure, and, so, therefore, it remains in a sort of perpetual state of openness and probably will be open through his first term. >> but we're not moving forward on the trials, either, eric holder said he wanted to hold the trial for ksm in new york and the trial was on hold at gitmo and the process began but because the president wanted to move to the commissions and close gitmo, that was on hold. ten years, it has been ten years, almost since 9/11 and still, no trials. >> ten years for the 9/11 disaster, attack on our country and even longer for the uss cole
bombing, clearly an act of war and there is a detainee at guantanamo right now, who holder said he'd refer him to a commissions case and yet those 17 sailors who died an 37 american sailors who were injured as a result of that don't have justice and so it is pure politics, and not referring these cases to commissions, because they don't want to anger their left, their base for the 2012 elections. martha: well, that may have something to do with it. let's listen to eric holder on the issue. a piece of sound for you. >> i'm quite confident by january 22nd, guantanamo bay will be closed. we are in the process of making these individualized determinations about the 230 or so prisoners who remain at gaunt know. martha: they've worked the number down and it is 173 i believe now in terms of the detainees. how has that process gone in terms -- in your estimation in
terms of moving them out of gitmo and into other countries. >> they've done a fairly good job, understanding there are no easy cases or transfers from guantanamo, at the peak we had 778 detainees at guantanamo bay and, so, their emissary has worked hard with our partner countries to repatriate some of these folks and the big population are the yemenis and we saw hillary clinton in yemen recently, talking about the need to build a deradicalization program in yemen and we'll see what happens. martha: thanks for updating us on the issue, an important issue and one that has fallen off the radar a bit, and back today. bill: a dramatic rescue on icy waters, a little girl chasing her dog falls right through the ice. but stand by, you will want to see how this thing ends. in a moment. >> how are you feeling now? >> just glad i'm alive. >> makes me very aware, how
martha: the u.s. is in stiff competition in a lot of ways with china, but now there is the claim they do a better job of raising their children, and as you can expect, that has rankled folks in the u.s., there is a new book called "the battle hymn of the tiger mother" and, a yale law professor, who is married to an american and has two daughters, says chinese mothers are superior at raising smarter and more well-adjusted children in the end, a fascinating and heated debate that is going on. she actually had a strict parenting style herself as a child and then passed that along to her children, at one point she says she called her daughter garbage, and threatened to withhold food from her, from a
7-year-old, until she continued to play piano for hours and turned out to be a positive experience for them both andvera child and adolescent specialist and, these are things she is not allowing her daughter to do and put up the full screen, not allowed to have sleepovers or get any grade lower than an a, no tv, no video games, no play dates, no school plays, who wants your kid to be waisting their afternoon doing that. which i thought was funny, what is your take on this. >> it depend how we define success for americans who are maybe a little bit more lax we define it in a variety of different ways, it can be academic and musical and can be athletic, it can be public speaking. it could be anything. in that very strict asian culture, as she is describing it, it is different. martha: i want to take you
through the episode where she tells them, her daughter cannot leave the piano until she masters the piece and keep in mind her husband is an american and she says, what are you doing and she says, are not leaving, and tells her she cannot eat and will withhold things for hours and the daughter figures out how to play the piece and says, i got it! it was easy, she says to her mom and her claim is she gave a strong sense of satisfaction from -- gained a strong sense of satisfaction, from achieving it, it gave her confidence to achieve more goals. it is interesting. >> it's not saying the way she's parenting was not producing results. we're saying that when you are so strict with your child that it may be not building them up, but, rather, tearing them down and then for fear of not succeeding, they don't continue. you know. martha: she says american parents are basically, tiptoeing around their kids and that is a mistake and you should look at your child and say you are fat, stop eating, that is what a
chinese mother would say and you think of all the things we talk about, in terms of self-esteem an american kids don't have any better self-esteem for all of that than chinese kids do. >> i have written an entire book on self-esteem and body image and that kind of gets under my skin. we don't want anything that can be construed as abuse and we don't want our children to be teared down like that. it is about how we help our children to build themselves up so they can take on the challenges themselves. without somebody over their -- over them, saying, you have to do this right now! bill: throw the doll house out in the street! >> exactly, fear based. martha: it is a fascinating debate and, cultures have a lot of differences and i'm sure people will look it and we'd love her to come on and talk about the book and she has she has changed her opinion on some of this and calls this a story of love and family. >> and learning. martha: and link. and a lot of provocative
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bill: we are going to leave you with a dramatic rescue in an icy pond in new york. an eleven-year-old girl and a police officer recovering from hypothermia after they both went into the water, listen here. >> i was struggling, i was trying to get out of the ice but it was too slippery i continue get out. >> i was dragging along my stomach. she continue move. the civilian threw me a rope. we fell through the ice as we got closer to shore because the ice thinned out. bill: the young