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>> steve: tomorrow on our big telecast live from new york, brian, the new guy from "american idol." >> brian: one of the new guys. steven tyler will be here. idol debuts tonight. >> gretchen: joan and melissa rivers will be here. i always look forward to joan rivers and actor richard dreyfuss will be here. >> brian: he's coming to the studio? >> steve: this is going to be fantastic. we'll have the latest on the state dinner for the president of china at the white house. in the meantime, see you tomorrow, everybody. bill: thank you, everybody. it's where the rubber meets the road. the republicans promised to hold an up or down vote on mc. they are callinged the law a job killer. the resolution is called job care act. >> this will increase healthcare
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costs. we are already seeing premiums go up across the board. we are hearing from thousands of employers across the country talking about dropping their employer-sponsored health insurance, and we are already hearing from the lack of choices consumers will get as this new law is put into place. this new law is a fiscal house of cards and a healthcare house of cards. bill: this is the day democrats fighting to make sure the law stands. the president is working to make it better but refuses to go what he calls backwards. you will hear from a republican and democrat on the repeal vote. more states join the massive legal fight against the law. dana perino on that the moments away. in the meantime the white house rolling out the red carpet for china in a big way. we are after he waiting the white house arrival of chinese
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president hu jintao. that visit kicking off a summit. a lot on the line. a pretty picture from the white house. how are you doing? martha: i'm doing great. bill: i'm bill hemmer. martha: i'm martha maccallum. this has been a tricky relationship between president obama and his schien ease counter part. china as you know has lent us a lot of money. $900 billion is what we owe to china. bill: some believe the u.s. is at china's mercy. others say they need us more than we need them. how do you see this? >> i think both countries are economic offenders.
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america is clearly too deeply in debt, borrowing too much money and spending too much money. but china is an offender. it is manipulating its currency. but it gives china a more midwest problem. china floods its country. that increased inflation. 5% at the moment. some say the real number is double that. america is finding it easy to borrow all the money it needs. it's not borrowing much more from china. it's getting more from the american public. so you have got a tale of two offenders. it's china in the more deep trouble as we speak. bill: do you expect much from this? it's a four-day visit. it's high profile, we laid out the issues of which there are many between these two countries. >> president hu will get what he
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wants. he will look strong, he will look aggressive. he will look like he's dominating this meeting in the white house. that's for domestic consumption in china. in private president obama will be able to push for stopping the manipulation of the currency by china because it's in china's best interest to stop manipulating its currency and get the inflation rate down. but president obama will put that to the sheen ease in public. ito -- to the chinese in private. bill: we have technology up the wazoo. china that growing products from microsoft and apple. tim geithner said we'll give you more access to that if you cut us slack on theoer end? >> china's market for
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high-technology products is not the open market we would like to see, and china is stealing our intellectual secrets. don't expect much change in that direction. that's not likely to change in the immediate future. even though there is a who's who of american high-tech leaders in the white house about to meet with president hu jintao. they will be pressing for a more open chinese market. very doubtful they will get very far with that. bill: general electric -- >> goldman sachs. it's a long list of the premiere business leaders of the united states of america. they want be in this meeting. they will be pressing for an opening of china's market, more open than it is now and an end to the stealing of intellectual see krets.
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see -- secrets. bill: we'll see the two men arrive, then we'll back to our coverage here. ["hail to the chief"] bill: just listening to stuart varney's analysis, you know china's exports are nothing unless we buy them. they need our market. martha: their economy is groag at 10% per year and ours is growing 3% per year. china is a poor country by most
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estimates. so a lot of economic inequity that could work to their advantage. bill: we'll watch this and get back to it. live from the white house in 6 minutes. martha: the u.s. wants more from china when it comes to more from sanctions from iran. here is hillary clinton on this topic earlier this morning. >> we think that there are some entities within china that we have brought to the attention of the chinese leadership that are still not as shall we say as in compliance as we would like them to be and we are pushing very hard on that. we may be proposing more unilateral sanctions. martha: all that about our cooperation. any cooperation we get or don't get from china with regard to iran. she says the u.s. may impose
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unilateral sanctions against iran. the chinese president's visit is the topic of our "you decide" poll. iwhat is the most critical issue would you like to see brought actor president obama and his agenda as he meets with president hu? bill: a fox news alert. the news is not good on housing. new home construction dropping 4.3% in the month of december. overall between only a slight improvement over the previous year. builders breaking ground on 875,000 homes. the past two years are the worst on record in the last 50 years. got to get that going. martha: a lot of overbuilding.
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in the meantime, back to the story in tucson. the mother of congresswoman gabrielle giffords is telling friends her daughter is doing so well she is starting to look over some of her get well cards. she says her daughter could be transferred to a rehab facility later this week. in an interview with abc news, her husband says he believes for some time during this ordeal that his wife was dead, that she had been killed in that attack after numerous media outlets reported she had died. kelly also speaking to diane sawyer about his future in space. >> april 19, will you be the commander of the final shuttle mission? >> i don't know. i have some time to think about it. ideally i would like to have that conversation with gabby.
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i have flown in space three times. i don't have to do it again. >> but you are going to be here if she is not well enough. >> i'll be there for her. absolutely. my first priority is her. martha: that's something that he made perfectly clear as he watched this unfold. what a remarcable man mark kelly is. he said his wife expressed fear to him many times about being shot while she was doing her work as a congresswoman. he's not sure he wants her to continue as a member of congress. he says knowing her he expects she'll have a different take on that. bill: the best to her in her recovery. police say a shooting at a high school near l.a. appears to be an accident. a gunfiring inside a classroom,
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striking two students, grazing one in the head, another in the neck. >> with we have is the person responsible for this particular shooting came into a classroom. it appears set a backpack down on a desk, and a gun that was inside that backpack discharged. the round from that gun hit both of the students. bill report teen with the head wound, critical condition. the other teen in fair condition. police say they don't know where the boy got the gun. los angeles. martha: the fbi is saying race may have been the motive for a bomb placed in the backpack along the route of a martin leupter king jr. day parade. they saw something and said something as we have all heard and said so many times. the bomb squad was called in.
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they disabled that device. here is $of the video in that incredible moment. steve centanni joins me with developments. any progress in this investigation? >> that serious threat was averted on that parade route monday. the parade walls rerouted around the air what where they found this backpack it was in spokane, washington. the task force asking the public's help locating the person who left a swiss army backpack in a parking lot. a bomb squad was called in and they say it was a lethal bomb threat. preliminary analysis reveals it contains a potentially deadly destructive device capable of inflicting multiple casualties.
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a reward has been offered by the fbi. >> we found out that more than half the states in the country, 26 states are challenging the healthcare law. what do you do if you are the president and half the country is soon to get rid of your signature piece of legislation? martha: a fifmartha: a philadela neighborhood. bill: the parents of a mexican teenager suing the u.s. government for $25 million. their son shot and killed by a u.s. border patrol agent. >> they don't understand how it works in the united states. all they understand is their son was killed. they want and answer and they want it soon.
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bill: back to the white house. i want to give you an i am average what's happening with president obama and hu jintao. dana perino is with me, the former white house press secretary. we talk about the economic relationship. what about the issue of human rights. >> it's a difficult one for a democracy to be in a situation where some people would say when it comes to china, we don't have a lot of leverage because of the economic situation. the issue of human rights in china and democracy promotion, freedom of expression and helping people in prison, political prisoners to break out of that is something america has to stand strong for. it has been recently the administration talked more about human rights. they got some criticism for being quiet about it in the
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past. the president that it worked for when i was press secretary, we always talked about it at all times. we didn't think it was rude to bring it up, we thought it was necessary. bill: the nobel prize winner from china wasn't allowed to go to oslo to pick up his prize. >> his wife is also in prison. she was able to get out a twitter message. remember the old voice of america, people don't realize we still do a lot of that international broadcasting into places like china and elsewhere. and that nobel prize winner had been someone who contributed information to our broadcast through radio free asia. we should be proud of that and seeking out people who are brave enough to push back against
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their oppressors, the chinese government. at the same time there is another issue, and that's internet freedom. secretary clinton talked about this a lot early on in her tenure. it's something i know from the bbg's perspective we look at as well. bill: in your eight years in the white house were you able to move the meter on this issue at all? did you get china to say we'll cut some snack this area or that area or freedom of the press? >> i think that china has made some concessions but they are really just on the surface. i would say that egypt was another place where freedom of expression is a threat. if you look at a map of freedom of expression almost all around the world, you have these problems. there are very few countries like ours with freedom of speech
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where you can say what you want, have access to information you need so you can make you're own decisions and have a strong democracy. president bush used to say your dissent is important but a strong free press is even more important to your success. bill: i think how vast this country in china is and how soliddehowsolid the government s been for centuries. and you think about countries broken up as a result of the collapse of the soviet union. then i start to see the differences in religion. and those people -- the only group that was ever heard about in china were the tibetans. how many group are there in the western part of that country ready and willing and waiting to tell the world what they want?
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that could be major issues for beijing. here is the president. >> welcome to the united states. three decades ago on a january day like this another american president stood here and welcomed another chinese leader with an historic normal zig of n between the united states and the people's rub of china. on that day they spoke about the possibilities of cooperation between our two nations.
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looking back on that winter day in 1979, it is now clear the previous 30 years have been a time of estrangement for our two countries. the 30 years since have been a time of growing exchanges and understanding. with this visit we can lay the foundation for the next 30 years.
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at a time when some doubt the benefits, the cooperation between the united states and china, this visit is a chance to demonstrate a simple truth. we have an enormous stake in each other's defense. nations including our own will be more prosperous and more secure when we work together.
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the united states welcomes china's rice as a strong, prosperous and success -- china's rise as a strong, prosperous and successful member of the community of nations. our cooperation on a range of issues helped advance stability in the asian pacific and in the world.
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we also know this, history shows that societies are more harmonious, nations more successful and the world is more just when the rights and responsibilities of all nations and all people are upheld, including the universal rights of every human being. mr. president, we can learn from our people. chinese and american students,
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business people, researchers and scientists, including chinese americans here today. they work together and make progress together every single day. they know even as our nations compete in some areas, we can cooperate in so many others with a spirit of mutual respect for our mutual benefit.
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what was said long ago remains true today. there are great possibility for cooperation between our countries. president hu, members of the chinese delegation, let us achieve these possibilities together. welcome to the united states of america. bill: that begins the visit for the chinese president. there will be a joint press conference 1:00 this afternoon. the president did reference what dana perino was talking about, upholding the rights of human beings. watch that issue as the visit continues. if you got an invite for the
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state dinner, that's the place to be. martha: the big events. we have not seen a state dinner since 1997 for a chinese leader. president bush just gave an official visit at that time. in the meantime we have a big story happening on capitol hill. house majority leader eric cantocantor tells harry reid tod a vote and see what happens in the senate on repealing healthcare. democrats are less than pleased. listen to this. >> i think it's a matter of building on something that's good, not destroying something then doing a double-dare and see if we can do something else. martha: democratic congressman
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peter welsh joins us with his reaction. bill: another member of the senate, joe lieberman is set to announce he's not running for reelection. in moments the impact on the balance of tour when conrad and lieberman say they won't seek reelection. 3q if you have osteoporosis, and you take once-monthly boniva,
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martha: a fox news alert. republicans pushing full steam ahead on repealing the healthcare law. eric cantor is daring the senate to go ahead and just bring up a vote on this at least in that chamber as well. saying if harry reid is so con if i debilit -- soconfident thie senate. he should bring it if you he thinks he has the votes to defeat it. let's bring in democratic congressman peter welsh. you fought hard for this bill and today you face watching it go down for repeal at least in your chamber. what does that peel like for
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you? -- what does that feel like for you. >> the republicans won the election. the question for all of us is do we want political points on the board or make practical progress for the american people. the decision to repeal is toss out the good rather than improve the bad. my view is the responsibility all of us have to to improve the healthcare bill and the healthcare system, particularly on the cost containment side. i think repeal is radical and damaging and will wipe away hard-fought gains for your family and mine. martha: on their side they are saying they are doing what their constituents voted them into office to do. the country is pretty much split on whether they want to see it repealed. but i want to show you an ad that was put out there in favor of your side of things.
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let's have a look at this. i want to get your reaction to it. >> the affordable care act gave your family the same healthcare coverage the members of congress get. but republicans want to take that away and put insurance companies back in charge. martha: do you think that's a fair ad? >> it's probably fair, but i don't think it's helpful. the more specific we make this the more they can decide what makes sense. there are things in the healthcare bill that are absolutely essential. letting our kids get out of high school, staying on parent healthcare when that child has no healthcare. martha: republicans seem to be in favor of maintaining that as well. are you that far apart? where is the best common ground? >> that's my point. on a lot of these insurance reforms there is broad support. the areas where you need help in
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the healthcare system is how do you contain costs. the republicans are repealing thing they acknowledge are good like letting our kids stay on our policy until age 26. prohibiting any insurance company throwing off your insurance when you get sick. when you ask the american people are they for repealing those protections the answer is clearly no. in the obama bill is a million different things for a million people and it was vilified in the election. the question now is are we going to make practical progress? healthcare is a huge expense for american businesses. it's a huge family security issue. we spend more on income this country -- martha: it's so central to people's sense of security and how they feel about thing. talk to me -- when you talk about repeal, we have poll numbers i want to put up that
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show a large split, 48% want to repeal this law and not replace it, that's the top tier there. 28% would replace it only with the most popular provisions and 27% say leave it in place but remove the up popular parts. the most unpopular parts seem to fall into this individual mandate that says everybody must buy some form of health insurance. is that something you would be able the give up and compromise. >> there is a way you could get there. you are going to have everybody in the country covered, you need healthcare, all of us have to pay for it. but one of the provisions i would like to see is the waiver going into effect by 2014 instead of 2017, states like vermont and florida have different views how to get to broad-based coverage, affordable care and lower costs, they would
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be given flexibility in how to do it. it would remain opportunity for the single payer like vermont. but i think we should have a common set of goals. if you don't have insurance you still get healthcare. martha: what do you think about allowing people to buy across state borders? those are popular ideas in this country. are those two things you could be in favor of in some kind of compromise? >> absolutely. you know, buying across state lines makes sense. you have got to have some standards. but then you do he lou there to be interstate competition. so i could support that when you have reasonable standards. litigation reform is to make folks whole if they have been injured, not to impose real defensive medicine burdens on our good practitioners.
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if when started talking with republicans with some good ideas about how to improve the legislation i know you would see president obama willing to do it. but the radical notion mean you will take away from american families some of the provisions like the health insurance reforms that everybody supports. martha: most americans would would be encouraged if there was a way to throw out this individual mandate and bring in tort reform. if that's where all this conversation ends up that might be moving in a direction people could get on board with. it's great to have you with us today. thank you very much. bill: when the house convenes, they will have debates in 15-minute chunks and eventually you will get a vote. there is a new push to cut the
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spending in washington. where should congress start? some leading members of the tea party have strong ideas. a politician under attack. who is in this car that drew so many protesters? don't forget mrs. collier. i won't. ♪
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bill: there is a family in mexico filing a wrongful death lawsuit against the u.s. government. a u.s. border agent shot and killed a 15-year-old. the teen was previously arrested four times on suspicion of smuggling illegal immigrants across the border. his friend say they were only playing along the border.
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here is what his texas-based attorney has to say about that case. >> if we had an american boy on the other side and had gotten close to the border and a federale shot him dead and he lay dead on american soil. there wouldn't be an elected official that wouldn't be demanding a complete investigation. bill: judge andrew napolitano is with me now. a serious case. serious story. do they have a case? >> they have a case. the government admits that the border patrol agent shot the young man in the head. the government says its agent was provoked by the young man throwing rocks at him. can the united states government use deadly force and shoot people in the head when they are children and when they are throwing rocks.
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the laws is you can only use deadly force to meet deadly force. are rocks deadly force? bill: depending on velocity and the size of the rock. >> that's what happened here. the interesting thing is the death did not occur in the united states and the parents are not united states citizens. but under federal law they have a right to see you as if the death did occur in the united states and if they were united states *. bill: is there any precedent in this case that could be used for oneside or the other? >> yes. whether the use of deadly force, shooting a gun is an appropriate response to throwing rocks. the federal government has taken the position it is. so many border patrol agents have been seriously harmed by young people throwing rocks that they have the right to use deadly force to repel them.
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this case should resolve that one way or another, whichever way it goes. whichever way the jury rules will be appealed to a federal appeals court. bill: if i'm a border agent, who is looking out for me? >> you have a side arm and you have to protect yourself. bill: that's what i wonder. how does the law give me protection? >> it would be the burden -- this is a civil case, not a criminal case. it would be the burden of the federal government to persuade a jury that he used reasonable force to protect himself. if the jury believes that then the case goes away. bill: we just heard from this attorney from the family in mexico. it didn't sounds like a legal argument to me. >> i think that's not something
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the court wants to hear. the court just wants to know was it right for the border patrol agent who admits pulling the trigger to aiming the gun at the boy and pulled the trigger. should he have shot in the air or was deadly force appropriate. bill: thank you very much. "freedom watch." ralph nader and ron paul together tonight. martha: firefighters show up to a neighborhood. they were called in because of complaints of a strange strong smell in the neighborhood. then this. that story is coming up. he many the new governor of alabama an has gotten himself into a little bit of trouble when he said to a church crowd
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martha: the new governor of alabama made remarks moment after his inaugural ceremony. robert bentley told a crowd in a church in birmingham that non-christians are not my brother. those comments prompted the antidefamation league on whether non-christians can receive fair treatment during this time as governor. bill: there is a new push on capitol hill to cut the fat that led our country deep into debt.
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how about these ideas. cut the department of house and urban development. $550 billion. nasa spending in half by 50%. urban mass transit grants. a few billion there. $90 billion in fact. privatize air traffic control. how are you doing, john? these ideas have any traction in washington? we heard of some of them before. >> depends how desperate they get. we are so much in debt that we may have to think imaginatively that there are smarter, better ways to do some of the things government should do and maybe some of the things they should leave to the states. bill: get out of the way. you look at nasa. a lot of people are screaming and hollering because the white house wanted to cut nasa and go
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to private sector development to get us into space. that's calling for a $90 billion cut. >> nasa is a big sprawling agency. i think private space entrepreneurs including richard branson are showing the way. one of their things they are doing is they have prizes. you put out prize money and people will figure out ways to get into space. bill: there are companies in california sending rockets into space and then lands on air strips in california. the "wall street journal" says if spending went back to the 2007 baseline, the beginning of the first pelosi congress, $374 billion would be saved. over 10 years that's $748 billion and $1.56 trillion in savings. we are in a $14 trillion hole
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and climbing. what do you do? are you on the of a hole in 10 years? >> you have got to start somewhere. some government spending does harm. we spent a trillion dollars on the stimulus. that was supposed to lower unemployment. how is that doing? the biggest sports star in america earns $40 million a year. how many seasons would it take him to get to a trillion dollars? 25,000 seasons. bill: that's a lot of 3-pointers. >> the point is the stimulus didn't work. government spending can harm the economy because it takes productive money out of the sector that creates job. bill: what did ronald ray began say about this? >> he had one of the best lines ever. we should always worry the closest thing to eternal life on earth is a government agency. bill: live on. nice to see you.
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thank you. martha: a live look on capitol hill. today is the day. we talked about this for a long time. the house is getting ready to vote on the full repeal of the president's healthcare overhaul. we'll hear from john boehner and the rest of the gop leadership. that's moments away and we'll take you there live. ♪
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martha: all right, just about 10:00 a.m. eastern, we are counting down to a vote on repealing the overhaul of health care. in the country. and, the beltway is buzzing. the hottest issue, really on capitol hill for at least two years now. and today comes down to this: house lawmakers are set to continue debate to consider a complete repeal of the health care law. and, the bottom box, new republican house leadership is set to speak now on what has become their top priority, we're waiting for john boehner to step in front of the microphones moments from now and we'll ask how he'll be the leader of the
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movement, on the hill today, that is how we start a brand new hour of america is a newsroom on a busy, busy morning, i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer, they are waiting for this today, an up-or-down vote, slated for late afternoon, early evening and the democrats and administration poised to fight it tooth and nail. >> we're moving forward and don't want to move backwards and, frankly there are a lot of folks in rural america that are scratching their heads, wondering why if they are focused on deficit reduction as we should be we'd be talking about repealing a bill, that will actually reduce the deficit, by $230 billion. >> people talk about repeal as political theater, or symbolism. it isn't symbolic to the 149 million americans with health conditions who now are locked out or priced out of the markets. martha: a lot of debate over those numbers, that were raised there, carl cameron joins us live on capitol hill. carl, it is inevitable, it seems, that the repeal vote will pass, at least in the house.
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but, that doesn't mean democrats will go down without a fight. >> reporter: no, and they are taking every opportunity to sort of wage the same rhetorical battle they took part in leading up to the passage of health care on christmas eve, 2009. what you heard a moment ago was the health and human services secretary sebelius talking about a report from the hhs and the government, yesterday, that says 129 million people could be at risk of losing their insurance coverage because of preexisting conditions with the repeal. and this morning, sebelius reit traited that, notwithstanding the republicans' deep challenge to that and the assertions the numbers are cooked and way, way inflated and sebelius today at her pre-debate today news conference said she is not going to back down. here's more of that. >> i appreciate the battle that we have ahead, but, am convinced that the american people as they begin to connect with the very important benefits of the health reform legislation, are eager to
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see congress move ahead and not move back. >> reporter: and, last night the house spent about two hours in their initial debate of this repeal legislation. the house is now in session as you can see, there on your screen and will have another five hours of debate, divided evenly between the two parties today, at the end there is no doubt here, martha, the republicans have a 50-seat majority in the house and are likely to get as many as 8 to 16 democrats joining them in supporting the repeal. martha: that will be the thing to watch, how many democrats they may get who may be in vulnerable elections themselves in the coming years who might feel the pressure to cross over to the republican side on this? >> reporter: that's right, people talk about whether or not this is symbolic because the senate will not take up an actual repeal and there will be reforms the senate will consider but as a practical matter, politically, it requires democrats to defend again, the health care act, that got a lot of them unelected in 2010. and defend again, the health care act that -- for a great deal of time, really hurt the
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president's approval rating and divided the country on a very, very big and costly government entitlement, as it is crafted in the current form and republicans said during the campaign they'd repeal it and a lot of them are reminded it is a campaign promise they are keeping and feel strongly about and, though the senate will not take up an actual repeal, house republicans have another arrow in their quiver, here, and one shouldn't forget that they can choose to not fund the bill, for -- act next year an ongoing implementation of the health care bill, supposedly kicking in 2014, would be the next shoe to drop. martha: carl cameron, thank you, sir. bill: a big day there, huh? wow! how about a pension plan, poised to punish state governments across the country. california is in the hottest water of all. more than $500 billion in unfunded retirement lie belts, illinois, ohio, new jersey, massachusetts, double-digit, billion dollar budget gaps.
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guess who is not on that list? eric bolling, who is with me now, anchor of "follow the money", how are you doing, e.b.! >> what are they doing right in utah. >> how about that. they saw this thing come, about midsummer last year and said, instead of these defined benefits pension plans and in other words you work 20 years and you have done your time and now you can retire and live off the dole for the next, i don't know, 40, 50 years, they said let's change that and they can't do it with current employees but any new employees but on a 401(k)-style pension plan and it is defined, how much you put in, in other words, if the employee puts in a certain percentage, the state will match it and the state will go up to a maximum of 10% and none of these open-ended pension plans where you can increase and increase and increase and continue to live all the dole, utah, doing things right. bill: you say 401 k style. are they buying stocks, mutual
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funds? >> yes, investing in the 401(k) and basically, the state of utah is mimicking the free market and in other words you work for a company with a 401(k) and you can put money in and the company can and it can be directed and you can tell him how you want to invest it and the bottom line is, you keep it in there longer, you continue to earn deferred taxes, on that money as well, and what it does, the real benefit of that, is it stops politicians from saying, wow, we have this big pool of money here and let's use it for something else, use it for that bridge over there, or road over there, it has to stay in the system, it cannot -- can't borrow o -- from the pension obligations. bill: can't put their hands in the pile of cash and use it for something down the road that is not paid for. >> bingo. bill: remember two years ago, there was talk about allowing every day americans to invest in the stock market when it came to social security? >> yes. bill: would this be a similar model. >> remember, these are state employees, people who work for
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the state municipalities, and, they are earning our tax dollars and it is different. keep a little bit closer eye on what they are doing. after all you go to work, bill and getter paycheck and pay your taxes and that money is used to pay these people and i think this is the right way to go with it, because, that taxpayer money they are being paid with and right now the system is broken and can i tell you, we are calling it thaee anti-illinois,e -- >> who is we. >> follow the money, my friends and i, texas says we are slashing budgets almost $14 billion, everyone who seems to be doing things right, are doing the anti-illinois thing of raising taxes. bill: let's go to salt lake! >> let's do that. bill: see ya, eric. martha: now we'll go to this place, washington, d.c. where john boehner is talking before the repeal vote in the house, on health care, let's listen: >>... economists came out, with
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a report outlining how this will destroy jobs and increase costs. i think it is time to listen to the american people and to do this the right way. the congress can do better in terms of replacing obamacare with common-sense reforms that will bring down the cost of health insurance, and expand access to more americans. >> good morning. we are going to have a vote on the repeal of the obama care bill today, sometime early this evening and, we are bringing this bill up and having the vote, because, number one, we have committed to the american people that that is what we would do. we as republicans believe there is a better way for providing options for health care in this country. and, this is the first step towards achieving that. as the speaker said we also believe that this bill is detrimental to job creation in this country, we believe that it is bad for the economy, and, we are going to begin to deliver on
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proposing an alternative and better way for the american people. we have also said that we are going to be a results-driven congress. so i've got a problem with the assumption here that somehow the senate can be a place for legislation to go into a cul de sac or a dead end. and leader reid continues to say that he is not going to bring this up, for a vote, in the senate. the american people deserve a full hearing. they deserve to see this legislation go to the senate, for a full vote. interestingly, senator schumer says that this is a political win, for the democrats. if so, let's see the votes. >> as the speaker and leader said today, we'll have our vote. when the speaker asked last year, we go out and listen to the american people. we laid out america speaking out, anyone to join the
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conversation. which was much different than whether someone could join the conversation on what happened to the health care bill. we never asked what party they were affiliated with. we just asked for the ideas and the final culmination of all of this, the american people said they wanted the job-destroying health care bill repealed and we put it in a pocket card and laid it out before the american people and today we are keeping the pledge and it is a start. the vote today as we move forward, and we'll start tomorrow, with a replacement. and the difference is, it will lower the cost. the difference is, the american public will be a part of it. the difference is, people will be able to see, read and engage. protect the individual, but, also, grow this economy. instead of destroying it. >> when the health care bill passed last year it was really a defining moment for the congress, because, never had a majority worked so hard to pass
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a bill that was so unpopular and... martha: there you have it. they are fired up and ready to go. john boehner, will lead the charge in the house, to repeal health care, and we heard from eric cantor who reiterated his plea, really, to harry reid, saying why would any legislation that passes through the house be met with a dead end in the senate and why not have senators stands up and take a vote on this and be counted, whether or not they are interested in repealing the health care plan as passed and let them stand up and say what they wanted to say about health care and see how it goes in the senate and we'll see whether or not that ever happens, so far harry reid turned a deaf ear to that issue and we heard from kevin mccarthy and talked about this pledge to america, brought out by these -- in many cases, new republican house members. and, what they pledge to do and he said, look we are doing what people elected us to do. bill: a big day and talking to marcia blackburn, republican from tennessee, coming up and has strong feelings -- >> and kevin mccarthy referred to tomorrow, we'll find out what the repeal is and that is exactly what we'll talk to her
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about, because she is spearheading that and we'll look at what the repeal would look like, the replacement for that. bill: back to the hill, in a moment. first, the white house, breaking news from there, the chinese president is with president obama. this is videotape taken only moments ago, and comments from the two men, when they sat down and we'll move our camera inside the room here and dip in, moments ago, coming out of the oval office, the beginning of a four-day trip, essentially and chinese president arriving late yesterday afternoon, greeted by the vice president, joe biden. which is kind of rare, actually for a visiting president, from any country, not that it hasn't been done before, but, they'll have remarks here and a state dinner, late tonight. in the the middle of the afternoon, this afternoon, we'll get a press conference and not a long one, two questions aside and -- let's drop in and see what president obama has to say. anything there? got it, okay, there's a
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handshake, the two men have begun their meeting, the economic concerns and we talked about those, and, also the issue of human rights, in china today, always on the, shall we say, political menu when the two countries get together. there it is from the oval office moments ago, martha. martha: to this story now which we have been following closely. hundreds of people have died, thousands of people are now homeless, even the morning commute, as you can see, is stark reality here, it is very much in a shambles. where is this playing out? that is next. bill: and a key government official under attack as he leaves a radio station. who it was and why the angry mob was waiting for him. martha: and coming up, we are about to get an announcement from congresswoman marcia blackburn here in "america's newsroom." when we come back. stay with us.
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that is a little dip into the debate that is happening right now on the floor of the house of representatives. as they get close to the health care repeal vote. when you think about, back to the angry town hall meet, and the 2,000 page health care reform bill and the momentous midterm elections last year in november that overturned so many of those seats of democrats who voted in favor of the health care reform and now there are a huge number of dominant, really, republicans in the house of representatives. and, today they are committed to repealing it, at least on their side of the building there in the united states capital. now, i'm joined by tennessee republican marcia blackburn who has legislation and everybody kept saying to republicans republicans, what will you do instead and she has the answer and will introduce a bill that will replace the health care overhaul, and, she's a member of the commerce committee and, good
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morning, glad to have you with us. how long is your bill, how many pages. >> my bill is 11 or 12 pages, it's not very long, at all. and, what we do in the, there is a concept out there, martha, everyone is familiar with, across state line purchase of health insurance and our colleagues, john shadegg spent many years working on this and i worked on it with him and tomorrow we are reintroducing that bill and this will strike the insurance provisions in obamacare and put en place competition, imagine that. replacing washington mandate with free market competition. this is the way to lower costs, and increase access. martha: these are familiar ideas that came up a lot during the debate but robert gibbs was at the podium said and said this is night serious effort on the part of republicans and they know it will not go anywhere and will not pass anything in the senate even if it is heard and the president will veto that. what do you say to that.
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>> thises in deed an effort and is very serious for a couple of reasons and number one is what the american people have told us they want to do. they like the idea of reforming the health care processes but don't like the bill and the mandates and the governments intervention that the bill brings. another thing they don't like is the cost that is associated with this bill. because, any way look at it, taking ten years of tax revenues to pay for 6 years of a program, is not going to work, and as we learned in tennessee, when you try to deliver health care by mandate, by federal mandate, you are going to see your cost of that program, quadruple. martha: you know, they are basically saying this is a battle that you have already lost, the people have heard your arguments, that the cbo, you know, has scored this and, it is going to save money in the long run, and this is their argument of course and also, you know,
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that people are nhappy with increasingly and the strength and fervor against the bill is diminishing. >> i would disagree with that. what you see from the polls is the majority of americans want this bill off the books. they do not want the government intrusion. what they do want to see is accountability for insurance companies. preexisting coverage allowances into the system. they want to see portability and liability reform. they want to see reforms. they do not like this version of it. they want it off the books. so i would disagree with what you hear coming out of the white house. i would disagree with my democrat colleagues. we know that any time you do this creative accounting and take ten years of revenues to cover 6 years of expenses, when you look at the long term impact of what is going to happen with those bureaucracies and all of those 3400 mandates, martha, the -- look at the other states that
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have tried this. the cost goes up. martha: all right, you have an uphill battle and we appreciate you spending time with us, congresswoman, marcia blackburn will introduce the bill tomorrow and we'll see where we go from there. thank you very much. good to see you, congresswoman. bill: and, the debate gets underway, right? and we'll wait and see. martha: it is a process. you know, see it play out and these people were elected on this in large part and they'll see what happens. bill: rescues unfolding the middle of the morning rush, epic flooding and incredible images. yet again. right in. martha: police are combing over the surveillance tapes from the tragic day in tucson and what we are learning now is an unbelievable story about federal judge john roll who lost his life that day and we now know he died a hero. saving another life. that story is next. [ male announcer ] a chicken coop:
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and i don't know how long that will take. she is certainly going to go from here to some, at some point, to some kind of rehab. martha: kelly has been by his wife's bedside virtually nonstop since the day of that tragedy. bill: what a rehab that will be, too. the shootings in tucson, renewing the debate about gun control in america, namely, how the alleged killer would buy a gun despite warning signs about his mental health. william lajeunesse is on that story, live in tucson and, were there red flags that should have popped up, william? >> reporter: well, bill, you know the law is supposed to prevent mentally unstable people from buying guns, we are talking about the no-buy list, the national instant background check system and there are nine categories of people, who are supposed to be prevented from buying guns, and two of those categories may apply to loughner. number one, drug users or drug addicts are not supposed to buy
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guns and, secondly, those who are adjudicated as mentally defective, that means that a court must find that person to be a danger to eself or others r are mentally incompetent or are committed to a mental institution and if you enter a hospital, clinic or seek counseling voluntarily you can still buy a gun and though a police cited loughner or having a marijuana pipe and college officials called him odd, disruptive, creepy and hostile, he was never referred to any intervention, or court, he was not on the no-buy list, therefore. >> he didn't commit anything illegal until he pulled the trigger and put the first bullet in the congresswoman's brain and that shows the existing system does not work, our existing laws are too weak and we don't do enough in this country or states like arizona, to keep the dangerous people from getting dangerous guns. >> there are 17% of the people
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on the no-buy list, are -- have mental health issues and there is's problem with records transfer, a loophole, bill. bill: the governor jan brewer says she has no plans in making changes in the state's gun laws, what she said today and will anything new come of this and -- in the wake of the shooting? >> you are right, governor brewer blames the person, not the gun, not a magazine clip and there are four bills in congress, that relate to tucson coming from new york congressmen, but gun rights advocates say, listen, there is no evidence that more gun laws make streets any safer, in fact there is some evidence the opposite is true and look at washington, d.c. and chicago and the most restrictive gun laws and most violent, arizona is the number one most permissive state and they have among the highest per capita gun use and is not the most violent state and gun rights advocates say basically the system works and if the system works, if those who were
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known to have problems were more vigilant. >> basically, people did not bring into the attention of the mental health authorities, they could have called the authorities and could have called the sheriffs department, and, when the university said he was too dangerous to be allowed back to class, someone should have dropped the dime on him. >> reporter: so, bill, in this case, both sides really admit there is a little bit of a problem here and it could be addressed by congress or maybe some time of a presidential commission. bill: there is a lot to sort through and listening to your report, william, thank you. william lajeunesse is live in tucson, martha. martha: back to d.c. now, big changes coming in the senate. senators conrad and lieberman have both announced they will not run again, they'll retire. in 2012. so, how that senate may shake up, really, as a result of that, and then there is this: bill: you don't want to make up
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trying to fix the leak. julie bandaras is live with the latest. take is through what happened here, julie. >> as you can see, quite a dramatic scene, crews from philadelphia gas works were on the scene, apparently trying to fix a 12-inch high pressure gas main leak after people complained of smelling gas, and then, while crews were on the scene there, trying to fix it, that transformer exploded, sending the 50 foot fireball into the side. the pictures are incredible. and, one person was killed, though, as a result, killing a utility worker, injuring five others, so, it really is a miracle more people were not killed. three people remain in critical condition at a burn unit and among the injured were four philadelphia gas workers, employees and a firefighter. the blast so powerful, residents in the nearby neighborhood outside of philly, reported feeling tremors from the explosion, miles away.
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>> i was sitting home, and, the whole entire house shook and i came out and, i saw it and no way... i saw the flames hitting the side. >> when i got here they were looking for the leak, and, i mean, it wasn't a matter of 20 minutes or so, boom! the corner store went up. >> reporter: firefighters battled the massive blaze for three hours, forcing dozens of people out of their homes and among those evacuated were 24 people from a senior care home, according to the american red cross 15 to 20 families were displaced by the blast. and, they opened a comfort center, which helped 75 people shortly after the explosion which happened at 7:00, last night and volunteers handing out, blankets and hot drinks, clearly, in the frigid cold temperatures, and, all have since been allowed, we're told back home or allowed a place to stay and several streets remain
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closed this morning and investigators on the scene trying to figure out what went wrong and workers are making much-needed repairs as we speak. bill: what a story, julie, thank you very much. same deal on my street, friday, a big electric fire -- nothing like that, unfortunately. martha: and everybody was out on the street, looking at it, you said. bill: for hours, still trying to fix the thing. martha: and if you smell something strange in your house or neighborhood, you have to let people know right away and get out of there. it often means there is something coming. bill: julie, thank you for that. martha: yeah. bill: two big decisions that would throw the balance of the power in the senate up for grabs, today, independent senator joe lieberman out of connecticut, caucuses with the democrats, will announce he will not seek re-election and kent conrad, democrat out of north dakota says he will not run, either. >> a remarkable experience and i have done my level best and want to focus on these last two years in getting our fiscal house in
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order. bill: he was a fiscal hawk and says he can do better outside the senate than inside the senate and what kind of statement is that about the u.s. senate and karen hanratty and bernard whitman, karen and bernard, good morning to you. and here's the scenario now, you have democrats in the next election defending 23 seats in the senate, republicans only ten. how is that factoring in, karen? >> well, all we have is the political landscape as we know it today and as we know it today, kent conrad was very likely -- would have likely lost that seat when he was up for re-election and i'm not surprised he retired. i think we are likely to see more retirements. ben nelson in nebraska, i think is very vulnerable and ben nelson in florida, vulnerable and joe lieberman's retirement, more than likely that seat will stay in democrat hands, joe lieberman, acted like a democrat, voted like a democrat
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and i think that state will -- >> he had a very interesting history, politically, over the pasten ten yea ten years, back election of 2000 and his friends with lindsey graham and john mccain. how do you see it. >> conrad and lieberman's announcements removed two more centrist from an increasingly polarized congress and the blue dog democrats, most of them, lost their seats in the last election and i'm afraid the troubling political vibe is starting to make its way over to the senate where the american people increasingly want their leaders to governor from the center and unfortunately are elect -- our elective political class represents more and more the fringes of either party and it will be incumbent upon the democrats to work very hard over the next few years on candid recruitment, particularly in places like the heartland lest it looks like we creede the country to republicans which would be --
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>> are more in line set to resign? >> you know -- >> not seek re-election, more accurately. >> my biggest concerns are centered around seats that karen mentioned as well, dick luger's seat, he has been a responsible centrist on a range of interests including national security -- >> but he's a republican. >> exactly, but -- >> she mentioned nelson, the democrat. >> ben nelson, and, herb kohl may not run again, he's getting up there in years and we could face increasing pressure but, look, the fact is the tea party on the right, continues top try to dominate the republican party, and i think, ultimately, it is -- if the tea party continued to drive the republicans to the right and we get increasingly primary challenges from the left on the democratic side, the big losers will be the american people, who want their government to govern -- >> balance of power in the senate, 51-47, democrats have the edge, two independents, quick question about what kent conrad's -- i keep saying that, my mistake, he will not seek
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re-election. the guy who is known as a fiscal hawk and a may elected to congress in the early '90s and said if we don't have a balanced federal budget within a year i will not run for re-election and stuck to his word, by the way, but later came back and voted when a seat reopened in his home state and he said i can do more good on the outside than i can on the inside, what does that say to the american people about the effectiveness over congress? >> well, i think, you know, the fact that we saw so many democrat seats go republican in the last election cycle and we're looking at so many of these moderate democrat seats, let's include mary landrieu from louisiana as well and these are democrats who are constantly having to fight against their own administration. whether on cap-and-trade, on health care, or offshore oil drilling, the question is, do these members of congress, democrats, want to spend the next six years if they think president obama will be reelected, fighting against
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their own administration, fighting for the people in their districts against an agenda, a democratic agenda, that the people in their district simply do not agree -- >> sounds like friendly fire, i have to run, bernard, the last word, quickly. >> my greatest concern is the primary process which is increasingly giving us candidates to the left and right of the political mainstream and, is not so much the administration but whether the parties will open themselves up and allow the political center of the american people, to express their voice in the upcoming election. bill: voters will decide that. bernard, karen, thank you. 21 before the hour. martha: we're awaiting the big vote on capitol hill on the repeal of the health care bill and the vote ignited the debate over whether taxpayer money who end up if the bill goes forward as planned, going to abortion and shannon bream is live on the story for us in washington and this is a very big part of the debate, over the bill,
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originally. and now we see it resurfaced. >> reporter: you will remember it was a sticking point, when it came to getting together enough notes to get the health care bill passed, several democrats led by bart stupak wanted language put into the bill to specifically prohibit any tax mayor money from going to if you had abortion and they didn't get the language into the bill and you will remember the the president put similar language into an executive order and, for most lawmakers that settled the issue. take a listen. >> the bill is in law for 9 months now and i have not seen any evidence that a dime has been spent to support an abortion anywhere in the country. so, i think that the intent of the congress, very clearly, was to prohibit the use of public funds for abortion and that intent has been carried out by the administration. >> the critics say statutory language, the law, is always going to trump an executive order and for them the issue is not settled, martha. martha: shannon, the house has
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certainly changed a lot since obamacare was passed and that was evident in the midterm elections and how will that impact all of this. >> it is encouraging to the pro-life community. 80 new members, identify themselves strongly as pro-life and that changes things, when you get to voting on funding mechanisms. pro-life advocates have high hopes during the process, they will get the tougher language they were looking for into law including marjorie dannonfelder. >> and, think about what a -- what the proposal is, it means everyone in the country doesn't have to fund other people's abortions, and it is a pretty -- and these are strong pro-life members of congress who would do more if they had the opportunity and we hope they will. >> reporter: sounding very encouraged about the issue, martha. martha: shannon bream, thank you very much. bill: what do you think about the big welcome and pomp for the
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president of china and he might be our banker but some say it is going overboard, president bush gave hu a lower-key visit in '06. why the change, you wonder? martha: we want to know what you think about that. go to and take our survey, what do you think about the big visit from the president of china, what is the most critical issue on the president's agenda? we'll look at your answers, coming up, next.
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martha: big news at the white house today, the presidents of the world's two leading powers, really, are meeting behind closed doors, right now, wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall and hear what is going on in there? already the public comments are already hinting really at underlying tensions in the relationship. now, go back, the last time the u.s. hosted a state visit with china was 1997, after tiananmen square during the clinton years and 2006, president george w. bush hoisted hu jintao, in a
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very different way, an official visit. it was a meeting in the oval office, none of what we are seeing related to all of this and, denied him the privileges of a full state visit which is what we are witnessing, right now, and nina easton from "fortune" magazine is here with more. why is it different, this time. >> it is different for a couple of reasons, first of all, you have to understand the co-dependents relationship of these two nations. we are still reeling from a recession. china, right now, is going gangbusters. 10% economic growth. i was -- >> versus our 3%. >> and our extremely nagging, high unemployment and i was there last year spending time with the u.s. ambassador, john huntsman and everywhere you go, cranes are there, buildings, building railways an office buildings and so on and they are going gangbusters and this feel -- and plus they own a big chunk of our debt and they -- the power dynamic has changed. they feel the need to flex their
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muscle on the world economic stage, and, it is affecting our ability to grow our way out of the recession, because, we are -- so many companies are looking to china as a huge market. martha: absolutely. and they are not necessarily opening the door... >> they are not. martha: a bunch of corporate leaders there today, but they are not giving us a great deal, are they. >> in fact, particularly in the last year, year-and-a-half, china is pursuing the industrial policy where they are favoring their enterprises, their state-owned and state-subsidized companieses, at t at the expens companies and not only that, they are asking for access to our technology as the price of doing business there and i read a report it could be the grandest technology heist in history. and they are asking a steeper and steeper price for us to be able to do business there. martha: where does it break down? at what point does it buckle? and i'm also reminded in the '80s japan would take over the
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world and a lot of people look at the situation and say, in china it is the same thing and, other say, it is different this time, china is on an unstoppable march. >> i take the japan piece, always look at that and say, it was... didn't happen with japan and china is bigger, bigger population and they own such a large percent of our debt. and, they are aggressive militarily and that is the other thing and play in the world of iran... martha: 2 million in therapy in china, versus our 1.6. our technology is much better, thank goodness, but numbers, sheer numbers. >> sheer numbers, but, the thing that they need to remember, their gdp, economic growth, is going to match ours, probably by 2020 and even when that happens, per capita, per person, it will be 1/3 what ours is, we still have a strong, vibrant innovative middle class and they need our market and access to those people and need to
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understand that. martha: and, we just need to pay back our debt which works in our favor, nina easton, thanks, good insights on that. good to see you, too. bill: a deadly plane crash in south carolina. what we are learning the pilot was supposed to be doing when he crashed into an rv park and it is the job of sanitation department to keep the streets clean, but it also their job to keep the streets safe. the story, next. everything is better with swanson broth in it, an essential ingredient in any kitchen. swanson 100% natural chicken broth.
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martha: a south carolina rv park looking more like a battlefield, according to witnesses there. a pilot apparently was trying to land a single-engine cessna at a nearby airport and sad plaly ra
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into a mobile home and it killed a pilot and a 70-year-old woman inside the trailer and her husband, he was inside as well and suffered serious injuries and the ntsb is in the middle of the investigation of that crash. boy... bill: 8 minutes before the hour, some sanitation workers in albany, new york are doing more than just keeping the streets clean. more than just picking up the trash, too. they are heapilping to police t streets. how, you ask? rick leventhal has detailse det. what is waste watch. >> reporter: it seems like common sense and, you expect drivers to do and they would, anyway, keeping an eye out for crime and the program makes it official, adding structure rules and tools and drivers trained by former fbi agents on what to look for on their routes, basically anything out of the ordinary, and are given cell phones with cameras and forms to fill out an -- to document what they might have seen and, most important are reminded they are not cops, just textra eyes and
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ears to report to 911 or their dispatch. >> anything that doesn't quite fit right. you know? something in the back of a building, it is 5:00 in the morning, and, you never see that door open... that raises a flag. >> reporter: and according to waste management, it is working. drivers have alerted police to thieves, a little girl lost, and an elderly man with a flat tire who put a spare and a five gallon gas can, in the middle of the road and, the police arrived quickly to help the man and remove the dangerous items from the road. bill: how do the police feel about it. >> reporter: cops are on board in every case, 100 communities and almost every state in the nation participating and consider the workers are going to the best neighborhoods and worst neighborhoods, at all hours of the day and night and, since they are on the same streets regularly get to know what is normal and what isn't. >> this is proactive. waste management, that is what
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we are trying to get the drivers to do, to be proactive and not wait for something to happen. but, to see something, and call it in. >> reporter: some drivers were skeptical but often work in the same communities they live in and makes them feel like they are giving something back. bill: thanks, rick, rick leventhal on the streets with us today. thanks. martha: a big day, big moment as we see lawmakers on the house floor, debating a repeal of the historic health care overhaul. a vote expected a few hours from now, republicans have enough support to pass this in the house, of course. and then there is the big looming question of what happens when it goes over to the other side of the building, in the senate. bill: as we watch that, we watch this, lance armstrong responding to new doping allegations. the accusations of what he says about all of that. in minutes.
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bill: a rough day for the government in chili, did you she this. roll it, we'll watch it. that's the minister of energy under attack as he leaves a radio station. talk about energy. martha: when a way to leave a building. bill: he's in charge of sroflg energy pry sis. apparently he did not seal the deal during the negotiatings and that's when the protestors got together and said, why don't we give him a piece of our mind. martha: in the meantime lance armstrong seemingly unphased by the latest doping allegations leveled against him. the seven-time tour de france winner says he has nothing to worry about on any level. they challenged his claim that he cut ties to antalian doctor and trainer. lance says it's all a bunch of malarkey. bill: he tweeted it's all a bunch of ma clark key, however you


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