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>> steve: brian, time toet out on that big silver beard and fly -- bird and fly home. >> brian: gretchen becomes me, she becomes me and does the radio show and i get to stay and talk to you, steve. >> gretchen: but you're going to talk to me later on the radio show and i'll look forward to that. >> brian: but i love your lead guest. >> gretchen: yep, bill o'reilly. >> steve: see you tomorrow. bill: -- >> martha: it was a -- it's the big presuper bowl faceoff that everybody talked about, president obama sat down with bill o'reilly before kickoff, the leader of the free world tackling tough questions from bill o'reilly on super bowl sunday, they took on the economy, whether or not the president is actually moving to the center, the crisis in egypt, whether mubarek needs to go, canadait, cordial, fascinating interview. we're going to break it down moments from now, we'll go
through with how he felt it all went down, that is going on inside "america's newsroom" this morning. then there is this: a possible turning point in egypt today. reports this morning that a new cabinet is having their very first meeting since this crisis began two weeks ago, protestors, though, once again filling into their position necessary tahrir square, they are refusing to budge until president mubarek steps down. i'm martha maccallum on a monday in "america's newsroom". rick: nice to be with you, i'm rick folbaum. transition talks, set to get underway in cairo. martha: antigovernment protestors saying they will not stand down until mubarek leaves office. that is their line. joining us from cairo, legalland vitter. what's happening there today? >> reporter: good morning, martha and rick. there have been a lot of developments here in the past 24 hours. the government has made a number of concessions to protestors, agreeing to freedom of the press, agreeing to release some
detained during the prets, we also have the new cabinet for the first time. there's a lot of things going on. we went into tahrir square, where there are still thousands of protestors, many of whom are living there, camping overnight, saying they're not going to leave up mubarek goes and these are opposition groups that are meeting with the government and they do not enthrall the masses. >> we're here. we are staying. until mubarek leaves. >> the whole issue is whether president mubarek is going to leave by september or not, and as we send it back to new york there, it's a very dicey situation here, as they try and figure out can mubarek stay in power. obviously that's what he's trying to do. rick: leland, does it appear like things are getting back to normal a bit when it comes to the market, the stock market there, businesses reopening, banks reopening? what's the situation? >> reporter: on the ground
here, there's a great degree of normalcy outside of tahrir square. we can sort of hear the chorus of horns, if you will, from the top of our balcony along the bank of the nile, businesses are open, banks are open, there's an attempt by the government here to bring this country back up on its feet, because for about ten days here, everything was shut down and the economy here was grinding to a halt. also, they want to see if they can get tourism going which is a huge part of the economy here in egypt. rick: leland vitter on the ground for us in kay re, thanks. martha: it was a life and death situation during the height of the protests in egypt. fox news reporter greg palkot and his cameraman suddenly found themselves under seige by angry and violent protestors in the streets of cairo, they were savagely beaten, blindfolded, then they were airlifted out of egypt to london and that is where fox news' john roberts caught up with them and they recounted what they went through.
>> reporter: the whole time you're getting pud -- pummeled with open hands, fists, with sticks, with what we're told, rocks. martha: more of that powerful interview and parts that were not shown yesterday with john roberts a little later in the show. rick: well, a not guilty plea from two american hikers accused of espionage in iran, shane bauer and josh fattal facing their first official court hearing, the third defendant, you remember, sarah shourd, she was freed on bail last fall. iranian state tv claim that prosecutors claim to have evidence the defendants are tied to u.s. intelligence, bauer and fattal have been locked up in tehran since their arrest in 2009. all three claim that they were simply hiking through iraq's kurdistan region and wandered into iran. they face a possible ten year sentence if convicted of that charge. martha: and in the meantime, they are calling this a massive mistake. the governors of 21 states
representing more than 100 million people say that the cost of a new health care law will pretty much run them dry in their states. they've written a letter to kathleen sebelius asking for wiggle room on all this. this is a huge issue when it comes down. stuart varney joins me from the fox business network. so here's mitch damage yells, tawbled about as a possible presidential candidate, he's saying too much costs kick back to them and they can't afford it. >> that's preshiesly right. look, i follow the money, not so much politics but the money. and the complaints by governor mitch daniels is this thing, omabacare, just costs too much money, the states can't afford it, the central government can't afford it. mitch daniels makes two points: number one, it will add trillions of dollars to the federal decifit. and number two, the states cannot afford the expansion of medcade, 20 million people who will go on medicaid. partly the cost is borne by
the states. they can't afford it. but you know, martha, the timing of this is very important. over the next four weeks, we're going to have a new budget, and we're going to talk about decifit cutting and the debt ceiling. right as that is occurring, you've got 21 governors saying omabacare breaks all the cost controls, we can't afford it. martha: what's so interesting to me, stuart, certain groups have gotten passes on certain elements of this health care bill, and now the states are saying, you know, what about us, we can't pay this bill. we're just for the equipped to do it. >> i believe there are more than 700 organizations, businesses and unions which have gotten some kind of waiver at some of the rules of omabacare, that's over 700 counting. i believe that arizona has asked for a waiver for many of the provisions of omabacare, that people are beginning to split off, looking for waivers, looking for a way around the implementation of omabacare, and it seems to be coming to a head. martha: yeah, and the states, as mitch daniels is
pointing out, are crying uncle as well. good to talk to you, have a great day. >> thank you martha. martha: there is very tough news to america pts -- america's unemployed, a new report says the jobless are struggling to find work and that's not being alleviated in any way. out of the 14 million people who are unemployed, close to 2 million of them have been out of work for almost two years. meanwhile, those who do have jobs are likely to get laid off than at any point in the last 14 points, so it continues to be a very, very tough employment situation. rick: tough weather as well, extreme weather in indianpolis, causing a parking garage canopy at the airport to collapse. about eight rental cars on the first level the garage are damaged. airport officials say they don't have a damage estimate, and because of the weather, it could be several months before this gets fixed. >> i heard a sound that sounded like thunder.
it was so loud, it was so deafening is the best way i can describe it. >> the ice was 3-4 inches thick on the canopy. >> amazingful i don't think i anticipated -- they anticipated ice storms when they built that. >> there was so much falling, your first instinct is to get yourself to safety. >> lots of damage, but the good news here, no one was hurt. and if the weather is hitting you hard, shows us your pictures, we want to see them. just send them to you report at foxnews.com. we'll try to get them on the air. make sure to stay safe while you're taking those pictures. martha: and a drunk driver hits the streets in kentucky. and when an officer tries to stop him, this is what happened. wait until you see the rest of this. this is inved -- incredible surveillance. how this ended. unbelievable. rick: a newcomer aiming high to cut spending in washington. senator rand paul with a bold proposal. how much and where he says he can cut. martha: former governor
martha: welcome back, everybody. right now a freight train filled with ethanol is burning near arcadia, ohio. fire crews are hoping to get this completely under control by sometime this morning. but it is the aftermath of a massive fire ball. look at these pictures from yesterday afternoon. eighteen tanker cars, derailed. their cargo, more than 300,000 gallons of ethanol. we're told the train was headed from chicago to north carolina at the time. folks nearby say that explosion shook their houses. everyone within a file of -- within a mile of that accident has been urged to evacuate their homes. >> the boom -- i've seen on
tv where places where burned and cylinders explode. that's what it sounded like, just a boom. and then the great big ball of fire up in the air. martha: scary. many of the people are staying at the red cross shelter and now we're told they are starting to return home. no word on what caused that derailment. >> we know big government does not have all the answers. we know there's not a program for every problem. we know and we have worked to give the american people a smaller, less bureaucratic government in washington. and we have to give the american people one that lives within its means. >> the era of big government is over. rick: former president clinton, of course, 15 years ago, and today the message is still the same, more americans say they're fed up with big government and big spending. one republican newcomer in the senate says he's listening, rand paul of kentucky, taking to the opinion pages today,
proposing a bold new plan, calling for $500 billion in cuts. steve moore is senior economic writer for the "wall street journal," he joins us live. good to see you, steve, good morning. >> good morning, rick. rick: everyone has been wondering from the new republicans where are you going to cut, where are you going to start, give me specifics, and here this morning on the editorial pages of the journal we hear from senator paul and here's what he has to say. let's put a couple of them up and talk about what his ideas are, starting with education. he wants to eliminate the department of education, he says that will save a whole lot of money. he also wants to cut $42 billion each from the departments of agriculture and the department of transportation. he wants to cut $50 billion each from the centering department and hud. let's talk about this. first of all the education cuts, getting rid of that department all together and i guess putting the responsibility on the states. aren't the states broke as well? >> first of all, if you wanted an example of how we've really changed this town, rick, after the election from the last two years of being spend, spend,
spend to now save, save, save, just look at what rand paul has proposed. now, i read through this entire proposal that he came up with. i don't agree with everything in it but i think most of the ideas are very sound. i like what he's talking about with education. look, we created the department of education back in 1979, we've spent hundreds of billions of dollars at the federal level on the schools, and the schools are worse today than they were when we created the agency. so what he's saying is give that money back to the parents and let them spend it on the schools, let's get washington out of the way. i like what he's talking about in terms of cutting federal agencies by 25, 30, in some cases 40 percent, the department ofing in has had no effect. we created the department of energy in the same era, 1979, the idea, to reduce foreign dependency -- our dependence on on foreign oil, we import more oil than when we created the agency. i think rand paul's point is none of these programs are working well. rick: a lot of these programs also provide subsidies to americans, folks who need this money or
they claim that they need it. i mean, what happens if that money goes away, those folks who have been relying on it, what do they do? >> well, first of all, i -- first of all, he does not cut social security and medicare, he's talking about discretionary spending. let's not forget, rick, these are programs that grew by 70 percent over the last two years, if you include the stimulus spending. when he's talking about cutting 30 percent, these agencies are still going to be well ahead of the game because of the massive spending blitz that's happened over the last couple of years. rick: steve, why didn't he talk about social security and medicare? most serious economists say if we're going to really improve our fiscal house and get things more in order, we're going to have to explore cuts in those areas, yet here is a bold new senator, a lot of people looking for leadership from him, and he, as you said, he continues to call these programs, these entitlement programs sacred cows. did he miss an opportunity here? >> first of all,
$500 billion is a lot of cuts, rick. even in the house where you've got the tea party candidates, they're only calling for $100 billion of cuts. so this is a big, big reduction in spending. now, you're right, a lot of the spending, about half of the budget, is social security and medicare right now. eventually, we're going to have to do something about trimming those costs. i think that leadership for that has to come from the white house. i think once the white house comes up with some proposals for trimming those costs, maybe raising the retirement age for social security and medicare, i think you're going to have rand paul really beating -- beating the drum for those things but let's get started with the program we can cut now and i love the idea of eliminating entire agencies like the department of energy. another one he mentioned, rick, was the department of commerce which he calls the department of corporate welfare and that's so true. we spend about $100 billion a year, rick, every year, on giving aid to corporations. we don't need to be doing that anymore. we've got a free enterprise system in the united states. rick: it looks good on paper and certainly cutting that amount of money is a good
start. but we'll see whether or not politically this kind of thing can happen. steve moore, always good to talk to you. >> one last point, $500 billion is a lot to cut but let's for the forget, we have a $1.5 trillion decifit. so this is just a first step to get back to it balanced budget. rick: good reminder, steve. thank you very much. be sure to watch "america's newsroom" because senator rand paul will join us live and of course we'll have more questions for him about his plan and where congress goes next in the big spending battle. that's tomorrow. martha: celebrating what would have been ronald reagan's 100th birthday, his wife nancy reagan said she can't believe that he would have been 100, it's hard for her to fast only that. she's remembering him in a very special moment. we're going to take you there, more than six years now after his death. the main street was a total war zone, there was smoke, rocks being thrown, molotov cocktails, it was flames, it was live fire. >> i got grabbed and i thought that moment, i
martha: to the chaos after the protestes in egypt, journalists trying to cover the story, facing real and immediate danger there. our own correspondent greg palkot and photo journalist beaten while trying to do their job. they're sharing this with us on camera. we warn you they suffered serious injuries and it is somewhat disturb to go see. not nearly as disturbing as
it was for them to endure. and john roberts joins me now live from london. he's been speaking with them and shares their story with us. good morning, john. >> reporter: good morning, martha. they spent a night in the hospital in cairo, when they came back to the united kingdom on friday, they spent another night in the hospital, went they a battery of tests and were released saturday afternoon. i sat down with them on sunday. i should tell you these are both veteran correspondents and cameramen, people who have covered stories in some of the world's most dangerous places and from talking to them yesterday, martha, it's clear they are both deeply shaken by the ordeal. >> it's the most dangerous situation i've been in for fox news and i've been there 15 years. >> you really did not -- do not think you're going to get out of it but genuinely you think this is your last moment. >> you were thinking that? >> yes. >> reporter: correspondent greg palkot and cameraman olaf wig were in tahrir square during the worst of the violence, when the
building they were reporting from came under attack they were forced to flee to the streets, smack into the middle of a promubarek mob. >> the main street was a total war zone. there was smoke, rocks being thrown, molotov cocktails, it was flames, it was live fire, but i got grabbed and i thought that moment, i thought okay, i'm really now in trouble. and you know, it was immediately, sort of four or five people grabbing hold of you. people are all over him, within about 30 seconds, people are all over us, and that's when our life or death struggle began. >> and i just looked into the crowd, i was looking for a face, i wanted to look at someone, find somebody who looked horrified about the fact that i was getting beaten and i looked out there and i found that person and grabbed hold of the lapel of his jacket and hung on to him and said you've got to help me and hung on to him and put my head down, and pushed
forward and just kept pushing and pushing and the whole time, you're getting pummeled and you're still thinking to yourself, okay, stay on my feet, i'm okay. the whole thing -- >> the whole time you're getting pumd with -- pummeled with open hands, with sticks, rocks. according to the doctors, i got lacerations to the scalp, five pretty deep, one came close to an artery and that's what caused the blood i was bleeding all over. >> do you remember any of the hits? >> oh yeah, i remember one hit right here, which planked my vision out to some degree, blanked my left hearing, hearing from my left ear to some degree and that's when i thought i was going to go down. i've got two really good sized lacerations on the back of my head, a smaller one at the front and a stab wound in the back of my leg. my back is just -- it just looked like a piece of modern art. i'm completely black and blue. >> he went down.
i don't know why i didn't but he did. >> i had been tripped over twice and when you're on the ground and you're looking up and you're seeing people on you, that's when i thought i've got to get myself off the floor, you know. if i stay here, i'm dead, you know, because if you -- people start kicking you, then you know, you really are finished. >> they kept moving with the help of a few friendly egyptians. >> in that crowd of thousands, there were a couple who said no, it's not a fantastic idea to kill a foreigner in cold blood, right here, right now, we're going to help them, we're going to be a little bit civilized. >> when they finally reached what they thought was salvation, there was none. >> egyptian soldier, standing there, with guns, egyptian soldiers, watching, watching as the two of us are being pummeled, pummeled close to our death, doing absolutely nothing. >> covered in blood, they both eventually pulled themselves on to the apc and were taken by ambulance to the hospital. >> what kept you going
through that whole phalanx? >> thinking that maybe possibly we could survive. but you know, john, you get to that point at which you're fighting, you're losing energy, you're losing that fight, and i was just at that edge. i think mostly adrenaline, but you know, i've got a lot to live for, you know? i was not ready to die that day. i've got a beautiful wife and a loving family. i just wanted to get back. >> when they got to the hospital, they were treated by a relatively young and compassionate hospital staff who kept apologizing for the treatment that they had endured on the streets. but that wasn't the -- that wasn't the end of the story. in fact it was about to take a whole new bizarre twist and martha, we'll have that part of the story for you coming up in the next hour. martha: and that part is stunning. john, thank you very much for being with -- for speaking with them. it's hard for us to watch here, knowing these gentlemen and the unbelievable work that they do. so thank you for bringing their story to us. i think it's important that
everybody see it at home. we'll see more from john roberts. at the top of the hour we're going to have part two of what then happened to them, included being blindfolded and taken to another area. this is very disturbing, and we're grateful to the help. as bill o'reilly said in his interview with the president, we're grateful to the help from the state department that helpedgate these guys to safety. rick: when we got word last week that they had been injured, everybody in this building and fox news bureaus around the world just sort of held their breath collectively, we were so concerned for them, so it's great to see them on camera, obviously though they've endured quite a bit. we'll have more coming up. martha: we will. you can get more of their story. if you want to look at it right now in between this and the next segment, you can go to our website, fox news.cole, and hear more of their story. it is remarkable. you think these guys are invincible, you watch them go through so much, and we're just really, really glad that they seem to be doing okay. rick: as martha mentioned,
president obama entering into the no spin zone last night for an exclusive interview. >> federal judge of florida said the law was unconstitutional, supreme court may follow and it's going to be close. are you prepared for that law to go down? >> i think the judge in florida was wrong. rick: we'll play you the rest of the answer to bill's question and plus we'll hear from bill himself on what he thought about the interview. martha: his first reaction to how it all went. and this, a major breakthrough from nasa. in moments, you're not going to believe this, a look at the sun in a way we have never, ever seen it before. rick: that's very cool! >> martha: yeah! >> ♪ here comes the sun. >> ♪ >> ♪ and i say. >> ♪ >> ♪ it's all right. >> ♪ >> ♪
rick: developing right now in "america's newsroom", two men facing murder charges in ohio, accused of killing a college student at this fraternity house near the campus of youngtown state university. police say the men left the party and then returned, firing bullets at the crowd. a wildfire tearing across western australia, more than 40 homes destroyed, a lot more damaged. this as the eastern part of the country struggles to recover from a major cyclone and weeks of historic flooding. martha: all right.
everybody was in front of the tv yesterday, right, to watch the super bowl and of course, to watch this first. president obama and bill o'reilly, head to head, right before the super bowl, very big stuff. here's the question on president obama's health care law. listen: >> are you prepared for that law to go dismown. >> i think the judge in florida was wrong. keep in mind we've had 12 judges that said that -- just threw this case out, the notion that it was unconstitutional. first it goats to the appellate court. there's district court and appeal courts and then to the supreme court. but here's the key point, bill, and i said this in the state of the union, i don't want to spend the next two years refighting the battle of the last two years. >> but you're going to have to. >> christopher hahn is here, former aide to chuck schumer and andrea tantoras, conservative columnist. welcome to both of you, good
to have you here. christopher, let me start with you, what did you think? >> well, i think -- i thought it was a great interview, i thought it was very cordial, i didn't see the fireworks that some people were expecting. -- were expecting. i think the president made his point he is going to stand by his health care law and he believes as i do that when it ultimately gets to the supreme court it will remain and be held constitutional because it it's not it's going to open a slippery slope of a variety of different laws in this country, a variety of programs that could be considered unconstitutional. i think he made the point very clearly that there are -- there have been a lot of cases on this, and only two jukes at the lower level of the federal court have said it is going to be overturn, two upheld and 12 have thrown it out, as being something the courts should not waste their time considering. martha: what do you think about i don't want to fight this battle again, and bill o'reilly said you're going to have to and it's likely
he is, given the upcoming election. >> i think that was spin in the no spin zone. i think o'reilly should have call him object on it. he was trying to tell o'reilly it's over and as chris pointed out it has to go through a couple of judicial layers but this will likely go to the supreme court. this is fought by 26 states, that's very significant. the fact that congress had to go last week and revise it, they're going to continue to have to make revisions because this was thrown together and it has a lot of provisions that we're seeing just don't work. if it won't work he wouldn't be offering waivers to his buddies likes unions. martha: good point. let's listen to another piece here and get your thoughts on it. >> the pundits are saying you're moving to the center to raise your approval. is that true? are you moving to the center? >> no. because we were seto. >> because we were set up over there and they moved you to the center. >> here's what i think is true. over the first two years of my presidency, we had a complete disaster, right, a
complete crisis, the financial markets were breaking down, we were slipping into a great depression, and we had to take a bunch of extraordinary steps in order to make sure that the economy was growing again, which it is now growing, making sure that the private sector was creating jobs again, it's now doing that, and now our focus is not on refighting the battle over the last two years. >> are you not beholden to the senate? >> i didn't move to -- >> you haven't moved anywhere? you're the same guy? >> i'm the same guy. martha: convincing on that christopher? >> yeah, you know, listen, i think that the president has always been center left. i think maybe over the last three months he's moved further to the middle of the middle, and i think we'll see more of that over the next year or so. that's what happens in presidential first terms. the first two years, you have to play to your base, whether it's the right or the left of your party, you play to that base, you do what you have to do, you get it out of the way, you take some hits in the midterm electricals, then you move to the center to get the rest of the country back and
win your second term and that's where you govern, the junior. -- the center. eisenhower said there's only one place to be, the milled of the road, because that's where the usable surface is. and i think the president is there. >> i have another idea on that. >> i actually agree with barack obama, i don't think he's moved at all, this is a narrative perpetuated by the d.c. media, more d.c. media telling the story that all of the sudden this guy is a centrist. he said it in his words but his actions have shown otherwise and i guess we'll see if he does move to the center but when he claims control of the tax cuts, when he took credits for those, that's not a move that barack obama did on his own. he had to do that because he knew he had no other choice. republicans pushed him for that. he should thank them for it. >> presidents rarely do anything they don't have to do. he didn't have to extend the tax cuts. he could have gone to the mat on that. >> i know you're having bill o'reilly on. one of the most shocking things was when he asked him specifically what was the hardest part of your presidency and i'd love to know when you ask bill what
he thought of the fact he didn't say it was ordering troops into battle or phoning parents of a dead soldier, it was his personal privacy. i thought that was the words of a world class nars sist right there. -- narcissist. martha: we'll talk to bill about that. and remarks thank you very much for being with us, christopher. rick: never miss a shot to take a shot, andrea! martha: as we mentioned, bill o'reilly coming up in "america's newsroom". his first response. we'll get his thoughts about how he thought it went with president obama. that is coming up. do not miss it. rick: all right. but first, let's take a look at how the markets are faring this morning. early trading and the arrows are up on wall street, as you can see, the dow up over 25 points. not bad on friday, the dow closed up 29 points. will the trend continue? we'll keep an eye on the markets throughout the day. first, a suspected drunk driver, drags a police officer with his car. all of it caught on tape.
look at the surveillance video. you can see the driver try and speed off when the police officer pulls him over. the officer tries to get in through the driver's window to try to disable the car, and ends up falling out of the truck, sprawled out on the ground. a lot of people saw this. i heard somebody screaming, i looked outside, there was a cop laying on the ground, and everybody just panicked. we were going to call 911 but the cop told me he already called. there was a lot of -- there was one lady and they was scared and she almost got hurt. >> the officer's actions were an attempt to stop the perpetrator and possibly prevent him in injuring the bystanders in the parking lot. rick: the police in kentucky say they found the suspect hiding in the woods. this was hours later. he has, of course, been charged with assault.
martha: well, sarah palin, dealing out some harsh rhetoric, claiming that the obama administration has put the country on, quote, the road to ruin. we're going to talk about that coming up. rick: also a little boy manages to sneak through security while pope benedict is speaking at the vatican. what happens next? wait until you see this video. we'll be right back.
he fell to his knees in front of the pontiff. pope benedict realizes the innocence of the gesture and gives the boy a warm welcome. take a look. martha: how sweet is that? what a beautiful moment. security guards reunited the boy with his father as the crowd cheers him on. boy, he's never going to forget that moment. he folded what he wanted to do and went for it. rick: he's like i'm going! president obama addressing the crisis in egypt when he sat down with bill o'reilly and specifically the role of the muslim brotherhood. had not: >> but they are well organized and there are strains of their ideology that are antiu.s. there's no doubt about it. but here's the thing that we have to understand. there are a whole bunch of secular folks in egypt, there are a whole bunch of educators and civil society in egypt that wants to come to the fore as well. it's important for us not to
say that our only two options are either the muslim brotherhood or a suppressed -- >> bill: but you want -- don't want the muslim brotherhood. >> what i want is a representative government in egypt and i have confident if egypt moves in an orderly transition project we'll have a government in egypt that will work together as a partner. rick: middle east analyst and author of "the coming revolution, the struggle for freedom in the middle east", wally, good to talk to you. bill started his question -- bill was asking the president if he thinks the muslim brotherhood is a threat the president didn't want to go there. let me ask you, is the muslim brotherhood a threat to the press? >> the president's correct on description, he said that the muslim brotherhood are antiamerican and they have an ideology to be looked at, but he also said our secular -- there are secular force necessary egypt as well. what's missing is what defines the ideology of the muslim brotherhood and if we
are going to be reaching out to the secular forces. the question is, of course, the muslim brotherhood is clear, it's online, it's everywhere, it has to do with establishes an islamist state in egypt that would look like the taliban if taken to the extreme, they want to bring down the camp david agreement and certainly it's not going to be our allies or training their army with us. so obviously the muslim brotherhood are not going to be our allies. rick: here's the question. we're getting word that the muslim brotherhood are taking part in the talks that are taking place about the transition of power in egypt. can we as the u.s. be partners with any potential government that includes the muslim brotherhood? >> that's a very interesting question. what we need to do first and immediately is identify those who are going to be part of the government other than the muslim brotherhood. we haven't done so. we have not actually partnered with at least recognized the representatives of the youth. i would like to see members of this congress to go and meet with them and then we could decide what kind of
government we would be dealing with. but certainly if the muslim brotherhood -- it's the muslim brotherhood agenda to kill camp david and have an opportunity against the united states are going to be a deciding factor or a part of the government, we're going to have an issue with it of course. rick: we had heard last week that the obama administration wanted the transition to begin now. now we're hearing over the last couple of days that perhaps they're thinking about a more slower transition howt of the mubarek government into whatever is coming next. are they trying to slow things down and what about these mixed signals that a lot of people say the administration is send something. >> i'm getting a lot of those snies from -- signals from the arab media when they ask me what's going on in washington and either they want a transition now or want mubarek to do paperwork, so he's going to stay for a longer period of time. i think that the administration, and the administration makers realize how deep this relationship was between the u.s. government and the egyptian government, regardless of leaders, for the last 30 years. we have a camp david
agreement to protect, the suez canal, we have the training of the egyptian army, and we have a lot of economic issues. but at the end of the day, mubarek says he's going to be leaving and he would have to sign a lot of of decrees before he leaves. so he's going to be on his desk, but not with full power. rick: when we think of what a democracy is, the infrastructure for that does not exist. realistically, we've got a couple of seconds, how long would this transition need in order to get to where everyone is talking about wanting egypt to go? >> constitutional transics should not exceed september, political transition to liberal democracy, the one we know here, years if not decades. rick rick waleddd phares, thank you again. >> thank you. martha: all right. coming up here, america honors what would have been president reagan's 100th
birthday, 1200 guests join former first lady nancy reagan. it was wonderful to see her out there yesterday. we're going to show you some of that moving ceremony. rick: also you buy the tickets, you book the flight, pay for your hotel room. just to find out, sorry, you can't have your seat. what happened to hundreds of super bowl fans. their story in moments. martha: can you imagine?
rick: part of a 21 gun salute for our president, commemorating what would have been ronald reagan's 100th birthday. >> i know that ronnie would be thrilled and is thrilled to have all of you share in his 100th birthday. doesn't seem possible, but that's what it is. rick: doesn't mrs. reagan look beautiful? she placed a wreath on her late husband's wreath, she is joined by 1200 guests, including james baker and the beach boys performed, as well. martha: all right. here is a fascinating story for you this morning. nasa is releasing brand new pictures that are giving us never before seen look at the sun. look at these amazing pictures. 93 million miles away. these are 3d snapshots that
show a complete sue of the sun's entire surface and atmosphere. you can see sort of the edges of it in a way we haven't seen in pictures. joining us is michio kaku, professor of physics at the university of new york and author of the upcoming book "physics of the future" which is going to be fascinating. we're going to talk about that about him in the future but today, the sun. fascinating. what are we going to learn from this? >> we take the sun for granted. for the first time we have these glorious pictures of the sun. but it's also an early warning system. every 11 years, starting next year, the sun throws a temper tantrum that could wipe out or damage our satellites and power systems, so we need a system like this to give us 3d motions of the sun as it actually is. martha: we're going to know when what is about to happen? it's swift, right? the north -- you explain it. >> the north pole and the south pole, the sun actually flips every 11 years, releasing a burst of energy, and when that energy hits the earth, it has in the
past already knocked out a satellite or two, also knocked out the power grid of quebec in canada. martha: when was the last time that happened? >> in 199 -- 1989. that's when it happened. and once every few hundred years we have a tsunami from the sun. 1859, over 150 years ago, the solar system was so great that you could read the newspaper at night in cuba via the aroro spvment bulialis, the northern light. martha: do you thank will happen again? >> once every 200 years. if we have an event it could knock out satellites, power stations, could up to $2 trillion in property damage and the solar system is going to peak late in 2012 and beginning in 2013. martha: something to look forward to in the midst of presidential elections, right? thank you, michio. and you have great book coming out soon and we'll have you on soon to talk about that. rick: coming up, governors across the country making
tough decisions to save their state from financial rup. we'll take a look at what they're planning to cut and what it means for you. martha: and much more from bill o'reilly, including what happened when bill asked this question: >> does it disturb thaw so many people hate you? martha: the president's response to that is coming up. and bill o'reilly joins us moments from now. send me a tweet and ask what you want to ask. the smell of home made chili whatever scents fill your household, purina tidy cats scoop helps neutralize odors in multiple cat homes... keeping your house smelling like it should. purina tidy cats scoop. keep your home smelling like home.
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popular programs are on the chopping block, eric bolling is the anchor of "follow the money" on the fox business network. good to see you, how bad is it for governors? >> let's put it into perspective, thanks for having me, the last two years, 2009 and 2010, states have relied on federal stimulus to the sunni of $150 billion. so, that is going to get cut off and run out and they will not get that anymore and california around $28 billion budget deficit they have to close and florida looks to close 5 and new york, new jersey, both around 10 to $15 billion and illinois, as well and they are doing things like cutting medicaid, reimbursements and higher education is also getting hit and florida, take rick scott, new republican governor in florida, said here's what we'll do, reform pension and that will be one a lot of these governors will look at, and oregon has a democratic governor and and what he wants to do is cut medicaid
funding as well and maybe, maybe look at taxes, a lot of them are staying away from raising taxes, though, looking at spending cuts, all good, good news and, unequivocally they've got the message, crist christie, got the message he has been sending, start cutting and don't raise traction. rick: from trenton, new jersey and isn't there a trickle-down? where will the money come from that the feds aren't helping out, the states and states aren't helping out the local governments and counties and towns around the country, where are they supposed to get the money, local governments that pay for the police, for the fire department and the sanitation department that picks up the trash, where does it come from. >> investors and we talked about this, another topic when it comes from the municipal bond market, so they go to the investors and they say, we need to borrow money for the hospital or the school or fire department. and, then they borrow the money and pay an interest rate. and if it looks like these towns
and municipalities are on shaky footing they have to pay a higher and higher interest rate and they'll get the money but it will cost them a lot more and the only saving grace, only bailout, so to speak, not a federal or taxpayer bailout is property values look like they are bottoming and have been falling off the cliff and if they bottom and move up, that means the tax revenues for these municipalities, will start to go up and help them out, but, again that is a longer -- bigger ship to turn and takes longer to turn the ship. rick: you mentioned medicaid. payouts. i guess to doctors who accept patients who are on medicaid. what about medicaid benefits? if folks have their benefits cut, they end up having to go to the emergency room, for hospital care, for health care, rather, and, that of course, we know that that is the most expensive kind of health care out there, if folks goes to an emergency room for treatment, and how do
you deal with that. >> what we are hearing, doctors, we have them on our network and they say we still do the work and provide the service and sometimes we are getting 11 cents on the dollar, and will bill medicaid $100 and get $11 back from medicaid. and will go, take further cuts but, almost across the board, these doctors, they are heros. they say we still do the services and don't turn anyone away and some doctors -- i bumped into a doctor in iowa who said i do procedures i lose money on and i have to buy a hip and costs more than medicaid pays me and i still do it. they are good people, working hard. rick: absolutely, i agree. eric bolling on follow the money on the fox business networks, 9:00 p.m. eastern week nights, except thursday when it airs at 10:00. always good to talk to you. martha: here's the question, will this be the turning points in the president's relationship with business in this country? today the president will speak to the chamber of commerce, as
you well know a group his administration had a few run-ins and tense moments with and mike emmanuel joins us live from the white house, is this a new beginning for the chamber of commerce and white house. >> bottom line, both sides feel like they have common ground at this point. look, both the president and the chamber of commerce want to put a lot of americans back to work and so they are trying to find areas of mutual interests they can work together before example the president is pushing for infrastructure spending to improve the nation's roads, and rails and also, airports and that is something the chamber of commerce says makes a lot of sense and seem to be in favor of that and they did not like the president's regulations over the first two years and did not like the obama health care plan, and did not like wall street reform, but, bottom line, they think there are areas, getting signals from the white house of areas they believe they can find common ground and the president will go there and make pitches and we know he's due to lay out his formal 2012 budget next
monday, and so he'll give a bit of a preview and hope the business community will like what he has to say. martha: we'll see. mike, thank you so much. mike emmanuel reporting from the white house. rick: speaking of business, big headline this morning, on-line giant america on-line, aol, is buying the news hub, the "huffington post." aol shelling out $315 million for the web site. aol's chief, tim armstrong wants to position aol for the king of the news and it was the king of e-mail access with the greeting "you've got mail" and ariana huffington is joining the management team as part of the deal and the "huffington post" is one of the top ten news sites, 25 million visitors, each month. martha: surprising remarks about the iraq war coming from former defense secretary donald rumsfeld. he sat down with diane sawyer to
talk about his upcoming memoir which is getting a lot of attention as it leaked out and he says it is possible that decisions on how many troops to send into iraq marks the biggest mistake of that war. doug mccalloway has more on this, doug, the issue of too few troops one that haunts the former secretary of defense. >> martha, it doesn't haunts him, when asked if cutting troop levels was the single most important failure of the war, donald rumsfeld called that supposition interesting and he said, quoting it is hard to nknw the path you didn't take is smoother and that is as intro expectative as he gets with the interview with diane sawyer and, has another fundamental criticism, the administration was less than truthful about the existence of weapons of mass destruction and specifically the suggestion that then secretary of state colin powell was duped
into believing it. here he is. >> the idea that he was lying or duped is nonsense. he believed it. our military believed it. our military got chemical weapon suits onto protect them. saddam hussein's neighbors told us, be ready when you get to baghdad they'll use chemical weapons against your troops. >> reporter: back then he said there was reasonable confidence saddam had the weapons and in deed it was a reasonable confidence held by the united nations and many of the world's intelligence agencies at the time. martha: wow, interesting. he also talked about the respect that he had for his boss, president bush, what did he say about that, doug? >> well it came just after 9/11, a time in which rumsfeld in addition to handling the war on terror and literally helping the wounded at the pentagon on that awful day was helping his son, nick, battle drug addiction and the president offered his help, and support. >> he reached out and said, you know, tell me about it and
started talking about it and it is hard to talk about it because it is a... a wonderful human being. that you love. >> his memoir, "known and unknown" comes out this week and there are many, many other revelations in it, especially about who he liked and did not like. there's a lot of people in the other category that will raise eyebrows in washington, martha. martha: doug, thank you so much, reporting from washington. rick: we're waiting for word on the fate of the wikileaks founder, julian assange, accused of leaking stacks of classified government documents on-line. accused of endangering american lives around the world but he's also accused of sexual misconduct in sweden and, today, is day one of his extradition hearing, he's in london, and a judge in the u.k. is set to decide whether to send him to sweden to face charges there, and he's also wanted in the u.s.
in connection with all of those stolen documents. martha: sarah palin slamming president obama, going back to a controversial ad from the campaign to make her point. >> 3:00 a.m. and your children are safe and asleep but there is a phone in the white house and it is ringing... >> it seems that that call went right to the answering machine. martha: was that fair? a fair and balanced debate, after the break. rick: the interview the world is still talking about today. president obama in the "no-spin zone," bill o'reilly joins us live in 20 minutes on the interview making headlines around the globe. >> do you deny that you are a man who wants to redistribute wealth. >> absolutely. >> you deny that? >> absolutely. nf]fídn/xçyyxññw8woññó
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gathering to demand he resign and somewhe wearing masks with face on them covered by underwear and many throwing bottles and rocks at riot cops and he's under investigation for allegations he had sex with a 17-year-old moroccan girl and used the office to cover it all up and he denies the accusations. martha: sarah palin has been -- tough word for the obama administration, saying president obama's policies have put the country on the wrong path. here's some of what she said: >> my fellow americans, this is not the road to national greatness. it is the road to ruin. it is... crony capitalism on steroids, the big government, big business collaboration, powerful friend in d.c., who can afford to hire the lobbyists, to grease the wheels of government in their favor for them. martha: joined by my panel a
former speechwriter to president george w. bush and, a former advisor to hillary clinton and a fox news contributor, good morning, good to have you both here. and every time sarah palin speaks out, she seems to get a lot of attention and doesn't mince word, to be sure and this time, bill, she has said that the president has put us on the road to ruin, your thoughts on that? >> well, you know, as a former speechwriter i went back and read the speeches and read her speech and read ronald reagan's speech, time for choosing which i think she was trying to imitate his speech, and, there are remarkable parallels and people think her rhetoric is inflammatory ought to look at what ronald reagan said in 1964, complete with ronald reagan complained bu using the word insurance to describe social security and sarah palin complained about president obama using the word investment to talk about federal spending. martha: what do you think? it's not surprising given the things sarah palin has said, she has no fan of president and
thinks he has us on the wrong track. >> hey, sarah palin knows how to give a good speech. and she was very charismatic and talked about courage and the pioneering spirit and everyone's, you know, desire to fight for freedom and all of those things were good, and i think if you like sarah palin, you love the speech. but, unfortunately, there are growing numbers of people in the country who don't like sarah palin, and, they probably hated the speech. i think we have to get past some of her rhetoric, to, you know, actual common sense solutions, that is what we don't hear, when governor palin gets up to the microphone and i think it is, you know, people are going to start calling on her, to -- instead of only attacking obama and only, you know, dealing in her kind of realities, will have to provide solutions. martha: that is one of the views, not being in office, at the moment, for her and let's look at another sound bite and i'll get your thoughts on that
as well. >> it is a difficult situation. this is a 3:00 a.m. white house phone call and, for manner of us trying to get the information from our leader in the white house, it seems that that call went right to the answering machine. martha: it is not clear what she meant by that. >> i don't want to speak for her. i'm not a representative. i think what she meant, it looked like events in egypt took the president by surprise and we have democrats complaining the cia didn't inform them and he looked like he was taken by surprise and he was alluding to his muted reaction toward the demonstration in iran and the president trying to be stronger. i give president obama a better grade on this, it is a very difficult situation. but i do think that the important thing is for him to be tougher in private than he is in public. and i sometimes think, the reverse. martha: interesting point. i want your quick thoughts on something rich lowry said, and,
he came out today and said jeb bush needs to run now. and he said, any time somebody in this position says it is too soon, i'll wait to next time around, they risk missing their moment and he claims jeb bush's moment, no matter how hard he tries to deny it and said he doesn't want to run, he said his moment is now. thoughts from both of you, if i may. >> his moment probably is now. but i think that he would galvanize the base and bush fatigue would sweep in and the democratic base would be more motivated than ever before and he should probably pull out the republican nomination, it probably is his time, he's the only one who can save republicans for hispanic voters and makes it easier for president obama to win it 2012 if he is his opponent. martha: what do you think? is it his moment. >> i think it is his moment. he's retired as a governor, when you wait until the future, more candidates pop up and i worked
for one bush i admired and jeb has a solid record in florida and a strong conservative record and would like to see the strong republican candidates in the primary the better and i don't believe we should settle on one and anoint one. i think we should let them contest it and see who comes out on top. martha: and, the only person, i guess you have to convince is jeb bush, who has been unequivocal about his desire not to be part of the campaign. we'll see what happens. thank you so much, you guys, good to see you both. rick: coming up, remembering ronald reagan's legacy, a live look at a never-before-seen exhibit at his presidential library. we will take you there. coming up next. martha: and he called 911 with a very unusual question. listen to this: >> what is going on? >> i was growing marijuana and wondering what... how much... you know, trouble you can get into for one plant. martha: he's in hot water now,
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martha: here's what happened, police arrested a man after he called 911, in farmington, connecticut with an unusual question, 21-year-old robert mickelson asked the dispatcher, by the way, how much trouble could i get in for growing pot? listen to this: >> is it life-threatening? or an act of crime in progress? >> crime in progress, possibly. >> what is going on? >> i was just growing some marijuana, and i was just wondering what... how much, you know, trouble you can get into it for one plant? >> you are growing marijuana and you want to know how much -- depends how big the plant is. >> only a seedling. >> well, possession, can get
pinched for a roach in the car. >> all right, thanks for the info. martha: she sounds like she has experience, it depends how big the plant is, you can get hit for having a roach in the car and police traced the car and she was keeping him on the phone as well and traced the call and he's charged with possession and illegal cultivation, maybe you want to rethink who you are dialing. rick: all right, switching gears now, centennial celebration in honor of ronald reagan's birthday, and a brand new exhibit opening at the ronald reagan library, william lajeunesse is live from the reagan museum in simi valley, california. good to see you, good morning. >> reporter: this is already the most visited presidential library in the nation and will continue to be that with the renovation and there are 17 new exhibits and it is very interactive and allows you to rebuild america, using reagan policies and cutting taxes and deregulation and there's a
replica of the berlin wall, complete with guard towers, barbed wire and barking german shepherds and there is a tunnel so kids can escape from east to west and here's a uniform of the east german secret police, and also a movie that shows the evolution of the cold war and rise of communism and how ronald reagan met that head on an defeated it and ends with the wall of shame of other islamic and communist dictators from ayatollah in iran to daniel ortega in nicaragua and we got a tour of the library from the executive director. >> we will finish our job, and how will we do this? we are americans. >> it shows a movie trail and is not the movie of ronald reagan but the trail that sets up your experience for your visits to the museum and starts with the president's boy hood, and the
values he was given as he grew up and you can appear in a movie with president reagan during his hollywood days. >> george, we often talk about you, you would like for our two boys to grow up and be just like you someday. >> are you better off than you were four years ago? >> you go into his campaign for the 1980 election, and this exhibit is all about his first 70 days as president. all the major actions he took as president during the timeframe, and, why would you stop in the 70th day and, normally is the first 100 days and the reason is the 71st day... this occurred. the suit the president was wearing on that day, a brand new blue pin striped suit, he had never worn before and there's the bullet hole and you can see remnants of blood and, the centerpiece, you can learn the history of the reagan presidency and this is a fun feature we
have here, you can ride on horseback with the president, at the ranch by hopping on the horse here. he was one of the most remarkable presidents in modern american history and i think people will come away with the -- fully believing and knowing that. >> reporter: we'll be back in two hours, expecting a big crowd today and we'll go into the room where basically it shows how the president was nearly assassinated. back to you. rick: looks like they've done a great job at the museum and library, william lajeunesse, we'll see you a little bit later o on, william. martha: one of the best things you can do with your kids, is visit the presidential library and i can't wait to visit it with my kids and it is a great way to show your children the experience of one presidency and i highly recommend it and can't wait to go to that one and speaking of being president what is the worst thing about being the leader of the free world? that is the question bill o'reilly porch
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rick: a busy monday morning and here's what is developing now in "america's newsroom," anti-government protesters in egypt venting their anger towards the u.s. crowds in cairo chanting "down with america" after the white house backed a gradual transition of power, in egypt. and, two winter storms are causing a messy start to the week, in the eastern half of the country. but, that is only the start of
this week's weather woes, the next major storm, is now brewing out west, and could reach dallas by the middle of the week. martha: yesterday the big match-up came right before the super bowl when president obama entered the no-spin zone in an exclusive interview, the question of big government was on the table as well as a number of things, listen to this part: >> do you deny you are a man who wants to redistribute wealth. >> absolutely. absolutely. >> you deny that. >> i didn't raise taxes a lowered taxes over the last two years, i lowered taxes for the last two years -- >> entitlements you champion redistribute wealth in the sense they provide insurance cover for 40 million people. >> president barack obama: what is absolutely true is i think, in this country, there is no reason why, if you get sick you should go bankrupt, now, this -- the notion that that is a radical
principle, i don't think the majority of people would agree with you on that. >> why the majority of the
people in the polls do not support obamacare. >> president barack
obama: actually it is evenly -- >> close, majority, though -- >> president barack obama: evenly divided, bill. martha: that is a piece of it and bill o'reilly joins me by phone. >> hey, martha. martha: how do you think it went. >> it is hard to assess that, i'm in the middle of the fray and it is a live deal and don't have luxury of taking it to the studio and editing it and thinking about it. i got my questions in and i think, you know, i was suitably confrontational in a friendly way. you know, i don't like to read the blogs because i think a lot of those people are mentally ill who write those, but i did sample some of them and it was what i predicted on friday, in my newspaper column, which you can read, and thought i was intrusive and rude and those who hate him felt i was too soft with him and you have the crew, on both sides, and they want
blood. or they want you to be totally deferential. but, i think, the majority of people who were not ideologues, it was a fast-moving interview and i got a lot in, in 15 minutes and we have 10 minutes more tonight we did after that. we'll show on "the factor" tonight, and, you know, i did what i had to do. martha: and one of the things i love about watching you interview anybody, and in particular, president obama from your first interview, is that you get -- you know, jump right in there and kind of get off rhythm and feels like a conversation, and i thought that was a great, you know, part of the way things played out yesterday. and i want to play the part about why do so many people hate you? let's replay that for the folks at home and i want your thoughts on that moment, bill. >> does it disturb you that so many people hate you? i mean, i'm serious, serious question. >> president barack obama: i'm sure people -- and previous presidents would say the same thing, bush or clinton or ronald
reagan or anybody, people who don't like you, don't know you. >> hate you. >> president barack obama: folks who hate you don't know you. what they hate is whatever fun house mirror image of you that is out there and they don't know you. and so, you don't take it personally. >> no, you don't ever? >> president barack obama: no, because you know, if you -- >> annoy you sometimes? >> president barack obama: you know what? i think that by the time you get here, you have to have had a pretty thick skin. if you didn't you probably wouldn't have gotten here. martha: bill, this president has been accused of having a thin skin at times. did you feel that that element of him, has that changed at all. >> no, i think he still has a thin skin. martha: what do you -- >> that is my opinion. i don't know the guy. very well. i have been in his presence four or five times but i think that he theoretically, you know, says, i shrug it off but, look unlike president bush, who i asked the same question to a few weeks ago, really sincerely
didn't care. about what anybody thought of him. i think president obama does. martha: let me ask you, you have said on your show, many times, that you are having a hard time getting a handle on who this man is, who president obama is. is that getting -- is that becoming any more clear? did it become any more clear to you yesterday. >> a little bit. that is an excellent question, martha, by the way. i'm reading "dreams of my father" now and skimmed it before, but now i'm going back to read it. in a closer way. the president's first book, i'm getting a little bit more of a handle on him and what i picked up yesterday was that he sincerely is a true believer. and, that he believes that he stepped into the presidency, the country was on the brink of depression and had he not spent the money and instituted the government policies we'd be in the bread line today. he absolutely, 100% believes that. and he doesn't see himself as a far left guy.
he sees himself as a pragmatic politician. now, i see him as a very liberal man, but, he has a vision of himself that he is -- you are not going to blow him out of that vision, you will not do it. martha: what about the moment, the toughest thing about being president. let's play a moment of that and i want to hear what you think about that. >> worst part of the job, what is the worst, absolute worst part of being president of the united states. >> president barack obama: worst part of the job is, first of all, i have a jacket on on super bowl sunday. and if i wasn't president that would not be. >> don't have a tie! >> president barack obama: biggest problem, for me, is being in the boat. it is very hard to escape, you can't go to the corner... >> everybody watching every move you make. >> president barack obama: and over time, you know, what happens is, that you feel like -- that you are not able to just have a spontaneous conversation
with folks. martha: did that answer surprise you, bill? getting -- and it was raised the point, a lot of presidents would say sending troops into battle, talking to families, that is the toughest part of the job and others, the bubble thing comes up with many presidents as well? >> you could spin it, that he is self-absorbed and i wouldn't do that, a skasked him a personal question about the worst part of the job for him and when he went into that i sympathize with him a bit, because i have the same thing. i mean, i can't have a casual conversation, i can't go out and do a bunch of stuff, everybody, when i walk into a room is, you know, watching every move i make and it is very, very intrusive psychologically and emotionally and makes your job and life very difficult. i guess you could say some people could say he is a self-centered guy. i don't think i dispute that. but, i didn't think his answer was callous.
i don't think that would be fair. he's intro expectative and was telling me what he genuinely felt. martha: i thought that as well, he thought the question was about him personally and what it is like for him as a human being and i understand that. i want your thoughts, at the beginning of the interview i appreciated that you took the moment to thank him and thank the administration, for help they gave us, at fox news and helping two of our colleagues, greg palkot and, the whole thing reminded me, too of the moment way back, when they talked about the fact that fox news was not a news organization and clearly we were treated in a very respectful way in this whole thing and i want your thoughts on that. >> well, look, you have to understand that interview that we did yesterday is the most widely viewed interview i think of all time because of the internet. the moment it was done, it was all over the world. everybody is looking at it and, people who don't know fox news and all they hear about the liberal media, i wanted them to
know we don't have any personal animus against the president of the united states. that is... and he did -- robert gibbs and the state department did really, really good work in helping palkot and that is the truth, so why not say that and say that to him and i wanted him to get the message, look, we are not out to hurt you. we, the network. might be guys like hannity and beck who feel your policies are disruptive and we have other people on the staff who feel the opposite and fox news is more skeptical of obama and the liberal networks, of course and we are not personally invested in hurting him and that that statement up top was true and needed to be said and it was in the context of the event and i'm glad i said, that. martha: i agree. what can we look forward to, coming up, more of the interview tonight? >> 10 minutes more we were able to get after the live interview was done and go after
afghanistan and the spending thing, spending debt thing which i think is pretty good. but as i said, the presidents is very self-confident. he feels he's doing the right thing and, you know, if you watch the interview tonight, i throw pretty tough one at him and he is confident that, you know, everything is going to turn out okay. martha: do you think he changed, all the talk about the presidency, his leadership and style of doing things evolved over the past, you know, 60 days, couple of months since the tucson event? did you feel that in the sit-down and did he feel like a different president and different man to you, in any way? >> no, always has been supremely self-confident and i think, if he has a weak point it is that he doesn't have enough dissent around him and i think looks at it from a doctrinaire point of view and people are telling him that's right, that's right, that's right, and it's not always right. and says afghan will work out,
i'm not convinced it will work out and he has to come in with more skepticism about his own policies because, if you don't you get blind sided pretty fast which happened on the health care deal. i think, the supreme court will rule against him. i think that whole thing will go down the drain. martha: he'd like to leave it behind but that will be tough to do, in the heat of the campaign season, bill, thank you so much, good to have you with us, this morning. >> martha, thanks again. martha: looking forward to tonight as well. thanks, bill. rick: when we come back a former pentagon official directly appointed by president bush last seen on this surveillance video, near his home in delaware, days later his body, found in a landfill and what happened to john wheeler? and why his family says the police are keeping them in the dark, when we come back. >> how did he get from washington to wilmington and, the middle of wilmington and nobody to help you? something that doesn't add up. >> that is a mystery and what our investigators are working on. [ manager ] you know...
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gregg: i'm gregg jarrett in for jon scott, protests in egypt not ending and notwithstanding concessions by the hosni mubarak government and today we'll look in-depth at the leading opposition group, the muslim brotherhood and their ties right here, in america. also, remembering ronald reagan, a brand new documentary, airing tonight on hbo, we'll talk to the film maker and did you hear about this: the town that wants to ban workers from saying bad stuff about it, on social media sites. all that, coming up in 15 minutes on happening now. see you then. ♪ >> this is a mystery here, he was apointed to the pentagon by president bush and served in the ronald reagan administration and fought for his country in vietnam and, today, john wheeler is dead. and how it happened is shrouded in mystery. he was last seen on surveillance video in wilmington, delaware, where he lived, near where he lived and appearing confused and
disoriented though he was right near his home and days later his body was discovered in a nearby landfill as it fell from a garbage truck and family members say the detectives are keeping them out of the loop and only learned the cause of death, blunt force trauma by watching the news. they say, quoted, we have suffered a heartbreaking loss and not knowing how jack died amplifies the devastation we feel. colin connelly is representing john wheeler's family and, again the wheeler family refers to their loved one as jack and it is good to talk to you, i'm sorry it is under these circumstances, this reward is being offered because the family feel as though the police are not being forthcoming. why do you think that is? >> well, i wouldn't agree that we believe the police are not forthcoming. i would say the attorney general's office has taken the position that they will not share and have asked the police not to share any of the information developed during the investigation. so, it is not so much a question of honesty, it is just not being
as withholding the information and some of which i understand why, i was a former prosecutor and i understand you don't want to release unnecessarily information to the public and don't want to jeopardize the investigation but we hoped for some information that could be shared, you mentioned the blunts-force trauma and that is something the family would have liked to have heard first hand from the prosecutors. and, as opposed to learning it through the media. rick: they were originally told that he died of a heart attack, right? >> well, it is a little bit more complicated. there were a number of discussions with the family, when they were first notified about mr. wheeler's death. and, there are confusing statements and we were hoping to get definitive word from the me's office and we understand it was blunt force trauma that followed an assault. rick: the wheelers were involved, it is reported, in a bit of a real estate dispute with neighbors across the street
and they didn't like work being done on a plot of land across from their house and smoke bombs were thrown through the residence, just, days before mr. wheeler's body was found. is there any connection at all that you know of, right now, between that, what happened at that house and what happened to mr. wheeler? >> i know of no question between the two and authorities have not suggested to us there is a connection between the two. basically, as we understand it, it is a mystery at this point. really, just trying to come up with what happened to jack wheeler, sometime late december 30th into december 31st. rick: it is a story we are following very closely, this is a man what was a real servant to the united states, a patriot, to his country, and along with his family, we all would like to know what happened, and you mentioned there is a reward and we'd like people to know with that and come forward with any information they might have,
colm connelly, attorney for the family of john wheeler and the information is on the screen, if you know of anything, contact the police in newark, delaware. thank you very much, mr. connelly. martha: we watched the super bowl last night and it was chock-full of drama on and off the field. from a mangled national anthem. oh, boy! the seats, and of course there was the game. we'll be right back with all of the excitement. are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement or annuity over 10 or even 20 years?
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♪ what so proudly we watched ♪ as the twilight's last gleaming...♪ martha: what happened to the ramparts? when do they come in? musical fumble at yesterday's super bowl fingsinger christina aguilera, a lot of pressure and the words were written for her and later she said, i got so lost in the moment i lost my place and you can see how that might happen, rick. rick: i guess, the national anthem, how many times have we all sung that? martha: you don't want that to happen. bill: with the big game, the quarterback there, aaron rodgers, leading the packers, to a 31-25 win over ben roethlisberger and the pittsburgh steelers and throwing 3 touchdown passes and earning the game mvp honors. martha: and, it was a good game,
and, i thought it would not be close but it was close. bill: and down to the last couple of minutes. martha: how about this, play the sound bite from the black eyed peas who performed at halftime and that pricked my ears and what did he say? this is what he said. >> and, we need to get things straight, and, home town, and get kids educated and create jobs and the country stays stimulated. martha: obama let's get these kids educated and, create jobs so the country is stimulated. and the folks were saying, whoa, is that a political message. bill: and people were trying to figure out what was on his hair. and people wanted to know what a-rod and cameron diaz were doing up in the expensive seats. is she feeding him. martha: come here, a-rod, let me give you popcorn or something. rick: can't he eat by hill self? martha: looks lonely. rick: we told you about this, 400 ticket holders, were
displaced when their seats at cowboy stadium were found to be unsafe, construction on 4 temporary seconds of the stadium not done in time and fans were told they had to stand outside in the party plaza. >> they might give us seats and might let us stand but other than that, that is it. so, people are upset, and they said the reason is because our seats were not approved by the fire marshal. >> we drove from green bay, wisconsin through bad weather to get in here and they are holding them like animals outside of the gate. like cows. rick: can you imagine that, after kick off they let them back inside and they had to stand and each got a refund of three times the $800 value of the ticket. so, maybe not terrible. martha: it looked like a-roond d cameron had room in their place and cameron, she might feed you some lunch! rick: when we come back we'll switch gears and get more serious here, a massive
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