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lead. he is doing well in south carolina. a lot can happen. the big vote on saturday. we'll cover it for this network and fox business on the same day. a long day. but your money is important, and you're important. that's why we're there. be there. captioned by closed captioning services, inc >> kimberly: we're having a show now gentlemen. thank you for joining us. i'm kimberly guilfoyle. you betcha. with bob beckel, eric bolling, dana perino, and he's back, greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." we have a lot to cover tonight. first, the south carolina primary is less than a week away. and tonight, the candidates face off in a fox news debate. we'll preview it. plus, disaster at sea. now the captain of the luxury italian cruiseship is said to have been responsible. should he go to jail for sinking the ship? and check out this latest cover of "newsweek." the magazine asks why are
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obama's critics so dumb? greg gutfeld has the answer. "the five" starts right now. ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: our top story tonight, the showdown in south carolina. the primary is this coming saturday. tonight, the presidential hopefuls will square off during fox's debate at 9:00 p.m. eastern. everybody is going to be watching this, eric. it will be exciting to see, weapon the developments today. huntsman is out. a lot of focus on romney. in fact, there is a new poll fox news in particular which has him up 25% and also gallup coming in consistently with that at 23%. that is pretty good. >> eric: down to five now, right? romney. flanked by two on each side. they will all take shots to him. my guess is he won't bother with him and he will go after obama. that is what he he has been doing. it worked for him. he played a smart defensive strategy the whole time as the only offense going, not inside the tent but across the aisle.
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i think he is handling it the right way. >> greg: what can't the candidates do to stop romney, you ask me? >> kimberly: i do. thank you for reading my mind. >> greg: they have to treat him like a presidential candidate. ie, the same way a group of ex-girlfriends would treat a guy. they have to come and help him by telling him his faults. that way he can do better against obama. now it's time to look forward at obama and they have to help him. >> dana: like an intervention. you go here is all the things -- >> dana: you leave the toilet seat up, you never listen to me. >> kimberly: that is what newt is doing. helping him. >> dana: this will be the first debate format where romney has to take on the recent attacks against bain capital, venture capital. this is a challenge and an opportunity for him. it will be interesting since gingrich and perry have gotten attacked from the right for making that insinuation in the first place, how they will handle it as well. will they back off or -- what
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do you think? >> bob: one thing that is clear to me, after -- the polling is is relatively new. the last couple of days. after run of the bain capital attacks. he seems to have survived it. there seems to have been a backlash, that takes away a great hope card that the other guys can play. the question now is anybody in position to come in second place in front of ron paul? and then claim a ticket to florida? after this is over, with whoever comes in fourth and fifth has to consider getting out of the race. ron paul is not going to play in florida though he will probably come in second, no more than third, because he is looking down the road at four caucuses where his people are organized and he can pick up more delegates than he can in florida. florida is a closed primary. it's -- this time i'm right. closed primary. he got most of his votes in new hampshire from independen independents. who survives, i don't know.
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>> eric: it's interesting. south carolina, social conservatives, every looks at how santorum is doing, how ron paul is doing. jerry stein from the "wall street journal" is going to go right after the economy. you know there will be questions on the economy. on romney, how are you going to counter act barack obama's treatment? >> dana: i found something in the fox news poll today i thought was interesting, which is that no other candidate comes close to matching romney when primary voters are asked who is most qualified to manage the economy. he is up 44% on that question. gingrich is at 17%. if the economy is your main issue for the election, he has a leg up. >> kimberly: it gives them an opportunity to shine, because this is romney forte. what people feel he is qualified. same time, they feel he is venture capitalist, private equity guy. he can have a chance tonight to explain himself. and demonstrate why he is
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ready to lead. >> dana: he has to say this is the work i did in a private sector and i want the same opportunity i had. i think he has to figure out a way to pivot and make a reason for people to be for him beyond republicans if he is looking farther down the field. >> bob: you made the most important point. before him. the other interesting point about the gallup poll, people that support the romney-obama matchup. obama ahead by one point. it's tied. except for 78-79% of obama supporters are for him. people voting for romney are for him because they are against obama. >> eric: those votes don't count as much? >> bob: they do, but in the history of the elections you prefer to have people voting for you than against the other guy. >> dana: that is a function of this time in the election.
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if you look to 2004, when kerry was a similar thing, when the democrats were saying anybody but bush. dean and gephardt tore each other apart in iowa. kerry stepped back in. >> greg: so that raises the question how much does america like obama and don't trust him to do the job? that's where romney has to go. he is not a bad guy, i just don't want him doing the job, as opposed to demonizing him. >> eric: this is a huge issue. south carolina has 50 separate tea partys in south carolina. advocates, spokes people are coalescing around mitt romney, something no one saw coming, not at this point in the game. nikki haley, you heard senator jim demint's staff endorsing mitt romney. something you never thought you would hear. >> bob: the tea party influence is questionable to
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say the least in all of this. there is a much bigger election. one thing i worry about if i'm romney, people see the economy turning around for the first time in the polls. consumer confidence is up now for the third straight month. >> eric: what else is up is price of gasoline. it was the most painful in history of keeping records last year. going up from here. >> dana: those poll said they don't think the next generation will be as well off as the current generation. will this come down to question of independence? we haven't talked to those deserving praise. rick santorum. >> kimberly: no, we have
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sound. >> dana: we do? i get so excited. >> kimberly: the true conservative candidate. this is what he has to say. then we'll ask dana. >> i am the consistent conservative, someone to stand up for all the issues, not just moral issues but the economic issues. moral crisis of the debt and explosion. stand up against jihaddism and things that are important to conservatives across the country. they saw me as someone with the best chance of winning. >> kimberly: is it going to work, help and how does it play with the numbers for him for the primary? >> dana: santorum has an uphill climb. he has 13% in the fox news poll which is interesting. there are 7% undecided so maybe he has leeway there. huntsman getting out of the race might help him a little bit.
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but tonight the debate is for anyone on the fence. they decide who they cast their vote for. could he come in second? >> bob: he could but it won't matter because he those go to florida where cost of running a campaign is prohibitive. >> kimberly: that is a problem. it's all about money. >> greg: hashtag challenge. what is going to happen is santorum's problem is the media. they will tebow him because he comes off of a goofy christian. they will put it in contrast to obama. that is his uphill climb. >> kimberly: eric and then bob. this is becoming evident it will -- >> eric: this is becoming evident it's mitt romney. hate to do it early. huntsman dropping out, he
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dropped out before the debate. does that surprise anyone he didn't wait until after? >> bob: keep in mind that ron paul is running for delegates, not for second place. the rest of them are running to win. winners won't win in this one. ron paul will go to the conclusion. >> kimberly: you better watch the debate tonight because it will all be figured out by the time it's over. 9:00 p.m. eastern, fox news and "wall street journal" hosting tonight's republican presidential debate. it is live from south carolina. still to come on "the five," chris christie has a warning for republicans who underestimate barack obama. we show you what he said. e-mail us at thefive@foxnews.com. stay with us. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] imagine facing the day
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♪ ♪ >> eric: welcome back to "the five." g.o.p. candidates will slug it out tonight in the fox news/"wall street journal" debate in myrtle beach, south carolina tonight. hopefully, they focus
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attention on the most dangerous candidate in the 2012 race. barack obama. take a listen to a guy i think could be standing at the center podium spot if he were running. >> those who underestimate barack obama underestimate him at their own peril. he is as good a politician as i've ever seen. so i think we're getting into a campaign season now and he is really good at it. i think he is very charismatic and i think he is genuine. i think what he said is he believes he believes. that's a very dangerous politician. >> eric: very dangerous indeed, governor. especially when that politician has $1 billion war chest and passion to finish what he started. turning the united states of america in the people's republic of organized american communities. >> dana: the acronym? p-roc. >> bob: the organized what? >> greg: what poor intern
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had to put that together for you. >> kimberly: exactly. >> bob: what you really ought to do opposed to your silly flag is think about what christie said. what you have got in obama is a good campaigner. we know that. he has proved it over and over again. i guess the guile frankly with mitt romney, whether it's his background or temperament, the guy does not evoke emotion at all. he is going to go up against somebody who does. i tell you -- >> dana: doesn't do anger really well. >> bob: people who talk about romney now are not inspirational are the republicans, not democrats. christie is right if you take obama and dismiss him, you are making a mistake. right now, obama would thump romney. >> dana: we disagree. >> eric: dangerous, obama. >> kimberly: maybe so dangerous that christie didn't want to run against him. i think it is dangerous to under estimate him. i don't know that anybody is underestimating him. i don't think romney is. i think mitt romney has a
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little late-breaking momentum which is good for him going in to this. he has 69% favorability. which i like. i think that is good. tonight he has a chance to make it count and let them pull the rest of the undecided over to him. >> greg: if you look to the rest of the thing that christie said, he said stoves are hot,zy czars are sharp and cats are furry -- scissors are sharp and cats are furry. >> kimberly: profound. >> greg: he got in the white house without any experience behind him. >> bob: what experience does romney have to be in the white house? >> dana: are you kidding? governor. you don't think being governor? >> bob: being governor? >> dana: chairman of the olympics. are you kidding me? >> greg: wait, wait. stop. >> eric: dana, bain capital, experience, saved the olympi olympics.
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>> bob: bain capital experience? >> dana: he was governor. we're in an economic -- you can't compare community organizers to -- >> bob: how many people get in the senate. and he gutlessly quit running for a second term -- >> dana: that is -- [ overtalk ] >> kimberly: bob, does anybody seriously saying that he is not qualified to be president? >> bob: yes, i am. >> kimberly: he has executive level experience. >> bob: i think obama was qualified at the time. >> dana: why? >> bob: he was qualified because the country was in a malaise. >> greg: moved them to another malaise. >> bob: if you think romney has experience going forward, you're crazy. >> dana: president obama is not giving inspiration. fox news poll, among independents many more have negative feelings, 26% toward the obama administration opposed to positive feeling. i don't think that obama is inspiring anybody. i don't think americans are looking for entertainer. they want a steady man who
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knows what they are doing. >> bob: if independents are so negative why is it he only loses to romney by a few points? because romney has terrible problem with independents. >> eric: what bob points sout romney has the experience to be president? we compare the two? >> greg: one of them hired and fired people. it happens a lot in community organizing, right? >> dana: yes. you get moved around. >> dana: landing an oprah interview, even though her show is not on the abc network anymore, whatever it was, it's on her own network. having oprah decide that you are going to get an interview with her is a big deal. if you go to 2000 when al gore and george w. bush did interviews with oprah, a lot of people independents in particular said they looked at the interview and said they liked george bush more in that one. chris christie comes across in the interview as somebody you could have confidence in. you think maybe in 2016, he might be ready to run.
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>> eric: funny you say that. he did say that in that interview, that she asked why not now? >> bob: he would be more ready. >> kimberly: i don't think he thinks he can beat obama. >> bob: everybody has the same problems as al gore does, mitt romney. they were cast from the same mold. neither one of them can be inspiring. romney trying to inspire people? >> dana: i am looking for experience and ability. >> bob: what is experience and ability? >> kimberly: this is not prom date and not looking popularity confidence. someone with experience. >> bob: corporate rateer who is boring and ran the state -- corporate raider who is boring and ran the state of massachusetts. >> kimberly: she not a corporate raider. >> dana: he needs better talking points than that. >> bob: we'll roll him. >> eric: successful businessman that created jobs. in a business. and then obama had none of the
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qualities. >> kimberly: i hope they attack him on his experience. >> dana: me, too. >> kimberly: five seconds ago obama became qualified by having the job. he didn't have it before. >> bob: let me ask mitt romney one question. what would you do since iranians are about to cut off the oil to europe, the biggest trading party. give us the intricacies of the oil situation in europe? >> dana: you think a community organizer could have done it? >> bob: he is doing it right now. >> eric: coming up. got to go. nightmare at sea. the captain of this atoolian cruise ship that -- italian cruise ship that went down is facing manslaughter charges. we have all the latest. details moments away. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i'd race down that hill without a helmet.
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> bob: hey, it's the big bopper here. welcome back. listen, the family was having a really, really good debate there. we're going to try to change a few things around here and get back to it, because dana of course, cut me off at the end. [ laughter ] for a little person, she can be very tight but i love her anyway. you're right when you compare barack obama's experience as a community organizer to mitt romney as governor. i suppose bain capital a little bit. right now the president of the united states has had four years experience. >> greg: he learned on the job. >> kimberly: he's now qualified. >> bob: however you want to call it, he has learned a lot. particularly in foreign policy. >> greg: can i be president,
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then? i promise i'm learn on the job. >> kimberly: pass out these papers and you can be president. >> bob: that was the last segment. i would just say, i'd like to see a question asked of mitt romney, what he would do of the complexity of the iranian oil situation. >> dana: that could come up tonight. jerry sign of the "wall street journal," that's a question i imagine is on the top of his mind. >> bob: would mitt romney be willing to bail europe out? >> dana: i don't know. depends on the circumstance. >> eric: you ask what mitt romney would do about the oil, i'm guessing he would open up drilling in the outer continental shelf. allow more drilling. >> bob: immediate prospect of having the gulf of hormuz closed off, europe -- who depends on the iranian oil? >> eric: we all do. >> bob: europeans. three big economies in trouble. italy, greece and france. right? all of them take close to the oil.
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they are going to get worse. if you are mitt romney, do you continue to push the sanctions or not? who cares. >> dana: that is a small little thing. in the big scheme of things how do you govern the country for four years? question on iran might be important but it won't turn the election. >> greg: dana, they asked those questions of obama in 2007. don't you remember. >> bob: europe is the biggest trading partner. the question is if it's crippled without having oil from iran that he recollects're connected. >> dana: germany, nonsense for you to decide you won't have any nuclear power. you are taking away 30% of the electricity supply.
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boston i would have a three-part question. if the strait of hormuz, if they decide to close it off due to sanctions or -- let me ask you this, mitt, are you prepared to go in if the israelis don't do it and take out the nuclear capability of the iranians? yes or no. >> greg: have you asked obama that question? >> dana: when he gets that question, i would evaluate the information. rely on my advisors. he doesn't make an announcement like that. [over talk ] >> dana: on the record, the white house said they didn't have anything to do with it now. you say they did? >> bob: i believe they did. >> kimberly: they disavowed it. o >> bob: of course they did. >> kimberly: you are saying this is whether or not mitt
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romney is fit to govern or be the president of the united states, versus barack obama. >> greg: america wants to see it as well. >> bob: obama is head and shoulders above any other republican. >> greg: if he is standing on a ladder. >> bob: he ended the war in iraq like he promised he would do. bad war and he ended it. >> dana: if the election with us going to turn on foreign policy and it still could do, you never know what would happen, maybe there is an argument to make. that's not what the election is about. >> bob: you want the commander in chief have some working knowledge of the international community. mitt romney foreign policy experience is bicycles -- >> kimberly: what did obama have? all of a sudden you say he is highly qualified. he has done it, i know. you thought he was fit to be president back then. he learned on the job. [over talk ] >> greg: i think he went to
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chicago regularly. that kind of qualifies international experience. >> bob: i think he has dealt with the -- i think -- >> kimberly: i know! >> bob: done away with more terrorists in the world than any other president has. >> greg: i will give you that. >> bob: fine. what has romney done? >> kimberly: he is not president yet. >> bob: governor of massachusetts and company that cost people jobs. he has no personality. if you want to run with that dog, go ahead. >> dana: going back to drawing board in chicago at campaign headquarters because this dog ain't going to hunt. >> bob: we'll see. >> kimberly: double standard alert. >> bob: he had an un -- ended unpopular war in iraq. that's a big part of it. anyway, we are going to go on. hey, guys. did you know all of you are dumb? that is according to "newsweek's" latest cover which asks why are president obama critics so dumb?
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vesicare may cause blurred vision, so use caution while driving or doing unsafe tasks. common side effects are dry mouth, constipation, and indigestion. so why wait ? ask your doctor today... ... about taking care with vesicare. i'm bret baier, in myrtle beach, south carolina, site of tonight's republican presidential candidate debate at 9:00 eastern on fox news channel. tonight at "special report" we'll tell you about this morning's announcement of jon huntsman that he is no longer a candidate for president. we'll get brit hume's reaction from huntsman's decision. tonight's debate feature the five remaining candidates trying to win the support of the undecided voters in south carolina. today, john roberts talked with some of those people about what they want to hear
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tonight. they are sending general dempsey to the middle east to talk about the growing tension over the iran nuclear program. ed henry has that story. in the grapevine, congress makes history. we will tell you how. "special report" from myrtle beach, south carolina, starts at 6:00 eastern now. we send it back to new york and my colleagues with "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greg: welcome back to "the five," so here are some things you can buy for a dollar. six pack of vegetable seeds. white tube socks from a street vendor. calendars from 2007. a christmas ornament in january. nail polish from the discount table at walgreens. >> kimberly: did that. >> greg: "newsweek" magazine. i don't mean one copy of
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newsweek. i mean the company who was sold to a tycoon for a buck. don't be surprised, look at their latest cover which asks why are obama's critics so dumb? that is a funny question coming from the magazine with depth of a litter box. but it's not the first thing they did on their part. remember this? and this? that was about the economy two years ago. and this? we have one more? there we go. so if you are looking for balanced reporting you are better off with mao's little red book. count on seeing more. the media will resume work with the propaganda arm of the obama administration. forget the obvious bias. what is going on is desperation. they did this to gain temporary relevance, that's why newsweek is thinner than a cat's whisper. not a great plan to bring up sales numbers by alienating half the country. why are "newsweek" editor questions so dumb? are they worth as much as a
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pair of tube socks? dana, you always buy tube socks off the street. dunkin' it's very cold here and i wear tall boots. the you get the men's tupe socks they come up over your knees, it keeps you warm and fashionable. >> dana: newsweek was a magazine that everybody got for the general public. but now it's for the media in new york. those are stories for the editors to read. >> dana: when i was in third grade, my dad started a tradition i had to read "rocky mountain news" and "denver post" before he got home and pick out two articles to discuss when he got home. he also subscribed for the family time, u.s. news and world report, national geographic. we got them all. i used to love getting "newsweek." then i grew up and i worked in government. what i appreciate now about newsweek is they're not even trying to hide it anymore. >> greg: true. >> dana: liberal bias is right there.
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the thing about this cover when i first heard about it, i thought it doesn't help. they think they are helping president obama. it doesn't help them. the picture makes it look like they are con desendin con desceo people. >> bob: i don't think this is different from the "weekly standard" or right wing newspapers. i think "newsweek" made it clear they're a liberal newspaper. i think obama's critics are dumb. i mean dumb in a nice way. >> greg: nice and stupid >> eric: the centerfold is double page picture of barack obama. what they are talking about the right calls him a socialist. the left says he sucks up to wall street.
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the left is dumb. independents think he is a wimp. so independents think he is dumb but he will outsmart the right, left and independents. >> dana: you know who is brilliant? >> greg: the ultimate hypocrisy here, kimberly, sullivan is calling critics dumb when in fact he is the most obsessed critic of sarah palin's children. i don't want to get into it. he has an amazing blind spot. >> talking about her children. inappropriate. he has no credibility, because of that. that is what is problematic about it. how do you expect magazine to have any credibility either when you have writers putting forth stuff like this. leftist propaganda. >> bob: does anyone believe 16% of the magazine and newspapers came out to help barack obama? it's been the worse press of anybody i've seen. >> greg: i love how you throw it out there. be right back. let me go check and go through the magazine.
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>> bob: i want to know where -- >> eric: the "washington post," "newsweek." it goes on and on. >> kimberly: media matters. >> bob: drudge. how about drudge? he's your guy. >> eric: not my guy. >> bob: rush limbaugh is another one. conservative talk radio is anti-obama. i'm saying -- >> eric: talk raid yes failed. >> kimberly: current tv. >> greg: let's move on, shall we? should the captain of the italian cruise ship that went down be behind bars? we'll debate that next. ♪ ♪ [ kyle ] my bad.
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♪ ♪ >> dana: welcome back to "the five." we are going to switch gears to talk about politics to the news over the weekend about that luxury italian cruise liner that ran aground. we have, 129 people are still missing. six died. there is 120 americans on the ship. there are two people, gerald
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and barbara heil, 69 and 70 from minnesota and we from paying for their safe return. there is a question whether the captain caused this. >> greg: this is like a signal to someone they know here. that's what they are criticizing. but the interesting story is on facebook, a woman wrote this thing, she said big greeting to my brother who finally gets to have a holiday on landing. she is the sister of the restaurant boss on the boat. so this is a really -- this is why facebook solves so many crime. if facebook and twitter were around in '70s we would haven't needed columbo. >> dana: it was hard to imagine this this happened in
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the 21st seventurery. now we have the ups positioning and you think we have the better technology. but it sounds like it was very chaotic on the ship. >> kimberly: very chaotic. an attempts to rescue people. it was a mess! it's sad when you think about the people that perished and died because they didn't have an organized way to get them. the first thing i thought about was the titanic and how can you have this be such a disaster? haven't we learned anything? >> dana: it happened quickly. the first ran aground at 9:30. by 10:00 some of the passengers were already told to abandon ship. 10:10 when the signal was given. the other thing that the captain is accused of is i ban doning the ship and leaving before passengers were accounted for. >> eric: he left early, and he wasn't the last person on the ship. was he drinking? there were reports that someone may have seen him in a bar. he was too close to the rocks. i'm watching last night and
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may have been one of the first commercials on for the carnival cruise. they own this. they will have a hard time going forward. i am not investing in them or going on a cruise. >> eric: a big cruise season. heading to february and we'll have vacations. >> bob: i took my first and last cruise two years ago. >> greg: we had a great time. >> bob: not good. this is one area of the entertainment industry that is doing very well. they have been building ships and all of that. a lot of people go out there. a lot of people are getting out there and eric going soon. i'm only kidding. this has economic impact that goes far beyond the italian wave -- >> kimberly: getting bad press. >> dana: we have video from the survivors if we can listen to. >> we didn't have the room on the boat. we had to wait. they are coming back to get us. the boat started to sink more
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and more on the side we were at. we made a decision that we had to get off. the part under water is where we were standing. >> there was a young woman next to me on the lifeboat who had two young kids. she had nowhere to hold. i was holding him. >> we had to go through the ship, which had been obliterated by the last -- everything was everywhere. >> dana: nobody wants a disaster like this on their hands. the cto and the chairman, pierre loiggi he had a comment that said the captain was at fault. >> this is used frequentenly.
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>> dana: from the liability stand point did he make the right move there? >> kimberly: it's premature but it tells me they will offer the captain up. there will be lawsuits and the claim has to prove loss of damage, go through it all and there are waivers. if you go on the cruise ship now you sign away quite a bit because of things like this happening, people getting sick or murders on cruise ships. not to say there aren't nice one. they try to limit their exposure. how are they supposed to stay in business? this is serious. >> eric: hay hired the captain -- >> bob: they hired the captain. >> dana: but to greg's point if there is a social media real time texting or tweeting or some by, wave to me. we'll be by. >> --there is more -- >> greg: just to be clear, this is a custom that happens
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before. a signaled greeting. >> bob: let me bring my 1,000 foot boat. >> eric: carnival cruise lines, the stock market. we were closed in the united states but it was traded on. it was trading overseas. down 20% on the stock. >> dana: we are going to get out of here. one more thing, our favorite segment is coming up next. you name it.
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♪ ♪ >> kimberly: ma time is it? time for one more thing. i'm in a good mood. guess what? you were paying attention on twitter this weekend, the 49ers, 49ers, 49ers -- >> dana: that is why you do it on twitter, not on tv. >> kimberly: i'm sorry. right, one of the best football games i've seen. i was eating chicken wings. one in the left hand and one in the right hand and jumped up to do a high jump with them. i'm so excited. we are going to give it to
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giants. no? am i out of line already? eric, what do you think? >> eric: only the better game was the giants beating highly favored defending super bowl champion packers last night. great game. it will be a great series. giants at 49ers and ravens at new england and your boys. that's it? that's all you got? >> bob: next week. bet next week. >> eric: very quickly, i got a letter. if you have pictures here. dear eric, i'm a fan that watches fox religiously and loves "the five." we wanted to drop you a note to let you know something you said recently truly inspired me. i own a cabin camp on a large lake on the virginia-north carolina border. the current economy, looking to sell and move. however, being a life-long lover of dogs the comment you made on "the five" regarding what would you do if you won the lottery? he opened this cabin up, took it off the market and going to offer it to returning
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veterans, their families and their dogs. >> kimberly: very nice! it looks gorgeous. >> dana: that is great. mine, there is a great photograph from the former president. george h.w. bush. president bush 41 was in houston. he was greeting the marathon runners there in houston. you got to love his style. i love his socks. >> greg: yes, the socks. >> dana: they're not white tube socks but one of the most wonderful men ever. to be out there, encouraging others, i just love him. >> kimberly: he has the tall men's tube socks on. everybody likes them. greg? >> greg: yeah. if you watched the golden globes last night you might have caught madonna try to focus on her arms. stare at her arms. she is ripped. she is really ripped. she could crush a melon with her forearms.
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>> kimberly: you like her. >> eric: holding the bows, right? >> greg: it's frightening. i want those arms. >> bob: don't worry about it. let me, this is a very personal thing for two reasons. one, today is martin luther king day, and a national holiday for one in my view the greatest men that ever walked, been a citizen of this country. my father had the opportunity to work with dr. king for many years. my father was from muskogie, illinois, when my father and dr. king had bricks hit in the head. he was with him in birmingham. regrettedably with him the day that dr. king left this earth. and it was every year, first year i'm not able to do it. i took my children to the lincoln memorial to have them read dr. king's "i have a dream speech." he set the standard and brought from nowhere, from poverty, fro

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