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mike wallace was 93 years old. he had been ill for several years. the cbs newsman was the crusading reporter who helped to make "60 minutes" a great success. he doggedly went after leaders and liars in a signature style. live in washington, our hearts go out to the wallace family, including his son, our colleague, chris wallace. we begin with steve centanni. >> mike wallace, of course, the cbs news correspondent, did pass away in connecticut at age of 93. he was relentless in probing and questioning in his entire career. one of the best ways we could pay tribute to him is to watch this amazing man at work. let's watch some of his clips here. >> which upset him and his
friends. how many blacks there are on your top campaign staff, governor? >> i couldn't honestly answer you, now. >> that speaks for itself. >> uh-huh? >> i president of the united states -- >> it was -- i don't know enough about iran-cobtra, mike, to talk to you intelligently about it. all i know is that -- >> the raised eyebrow, follow-up question, wallace always got to the heart of the matter and tossed tough questions at his friends, like ronald and nancy reagan as you saw. he began on the radio in the 1940s and made the most of the tv in the 50s. he was the first hire of producer donahueit, putting together "60 minutes," which went on to become the most successful news program for decades. he hosted it for 38 season, until he retired in 2006.
the show pioneered the use of ambush brew, but wallace said they produced much drama and very little information. he gots the first interview with dr. kevorkian and sat down with nixon and -- nixon aide gown ehrlichman in the watergate scandal. he was 93. chris wallace works in this studio, every sunday on "fox news sunday." >> joining us to share his memories is former cbs correspondent and professor, marvin kalb. thank you very much for joiningous this easter. your memories of mike wallace? >> well, mike was one of the great ones. there is no question about that. you have already talked about his interview style which was
mike's and mike's alone. he did not come up in the traditional way. he had bounced withacking. he start aid program in new york, a local television program in the 1950s where hing would sit in a close-up shot and he would be moking and the smoke would curl up in front of his face and he would ask these blunt, dart-like questions of everybody. he developed nightbeat, i think the program was called. he developed that style which then became manifest on "60 minutes." he was also a reporter who wanted very much to be accepted as one of the boys. and so he went off to vietnam. he worked there as all of the other reporters did. you would go in for a month or two.
he would cover war scenes and politics. he choked at one point -- joked at one point that the pieces that got on the air were the war pieces, not the political or the economic pieses. everyone laughed, but that said something very important about television. i think myself, as i look back upon mike as a colleague, he was somebody who stood out because he was so good on television. he simply knew how to project himself, his voice, his style. i don't want to say he was unique, but he was very special. >> i seps that you could see that -- i understand from what you said, where the probing style of question came from, from that early television training, on nightbeat but also as a game show host. he was not immune to conflict or controversy as well. i am remembering now the lawsuit that he and cbs news faced from
general william s. morelin. i have had a chance to speak to chris wallace and the son. and that lawsuit took a terrible toll on both men, did it not? >> no reporter likes to be questioned. [chuckles] you like to have the feeling have you done the bestion and heats move on. but westmorland felt and i think that he had a case there that the style of "60 minutes" and that cbs reports used was to go very tight on someone, almost clipping off the top of his head and toward the bottom of his chin. and if there was any anxiety at all, you would pick tup. and westmorland felt he was set
up and mike thought it was the camera telling you the truth. but in television, the truth has to be analyzed in a more generous way, i think. mike felt very bad that his work was being questioned, but he believed in what he was doing. and the facts bore him out, in my opinion. >> thank you so much for your insight into mike wallace. it's a special insight, given your history in the world of journalism. thank you so much, sir. >> thank you. >> speaking on the occasion of the death of mike wallace at the age of 93. >> christ yapsarn the world are celebrating the day that is central to their faith, easter sunday, when they believe jesus christ was resurrected from the dead. we have live coverage from
jerusalem. but first, we go to rome for details on pope benedict's easter mass in st. peter's square. >> that's right. sort of a double header. the pope heads mass in st. peter's square and goes to the balcony to give the blessing, making a plea for peace and a special prayer for christ yarngs persecuted around the world, appearing above st. peter's square, giving an easter greeting in 65 languages. the other time is on christmas. it was basically a talk about joy, about meeting the risen christ. he said, this should change lives. it's a healing experience. one that lets you know god's goodness and his truth. now, crowds in rome have been absolutely massive all week. they were blessed with good weather, today, certainly during the mass and the greeting. you can see from the faces and the flags that literally, they come from all over europe and all over the globe.
and the pope has had a really busy week. there is no doubt about that. on friday night, the vigil mass on saturday evening, we are told that as of wednesday, the pope will go to his summer place to get a few days off. that's the latest here. >> happy easter to you from jerusalem here. i suspect much like there at the vatican, here it is really touching and poignant here to realize how many people sacrifice so much to be able to be here in the birth place of christ, in the same place that he died. of course, the bible says he was resurrected. as they get closer to the church of the holy sepulcher, the place where many believe christ died
and rose. outside of the church of the holy sepulcher. >> it's more about the site and not about the cannedy and not about the ham at dinner. >> easter ends the holy week in jerusalem. friday, pilgrims march down the way of grief. many are singing here as they walk down from the second station of the cross where jesus is said to have received his cross, here to the third station, where the bible says he fell down, many of the folks who are here walking, tell us that they feel so much closer to their faith, for for having experienced this very sacred place. saturday, pilgrims crowded the church to experience the miracle of the holy fire, said to be one of the mostest in history, as clurjy from ethiopia to the
united states led their flocks through the experience. the american christians we talked to in this experience said the one thing that really touched them throughout the whole thing is that each branch of christianity has its own individual traditions, its own individual interpretation. but at the end, they are all celebrating the same thing. dug, back to you. >> live from jerusalem, thank you. according to the washington post, white house officials don't think iran has bell a nuclear bomb and if tehran decided to build one, the u.s. would know in time to consider its options. this ams can just ahead of talks between iran and six world leader this is week. >> between economic sanctions and a new round of talk, pressure is building on iran to dismantle its nuclear program, but believe it enough?
iran has insisted it is pursuing nuclear technology for peaceful purposes, but this mae come down to the extent that they are enriching uranium. the u.s. and five other nations are trying to convince iran to give up any development of weapons-grade uranium. but iran may be trying to buy some time. >> if i were in iran's shoe, i would make some minimal or apparent concession, keep the discussions going, offer to let the international atomic energy agency, for example, come back into the facility. but string things out as long as i could. this is what iran has done so successfully, in the past. >> at the same time, according to the washington post, the white house is trying to convince israel that our intelligence on iran has grown better over the years and much of that has come from drone slides and better sources on the
ground. the administration's argument here is that we have a pretty good idea how far iran's nuclear program really is. the administration wants israel to hold off on plans to attack iran's facility. but, doug, time is running out. >> thank you very much. >> i think i will get emotional. but on easter sunday, it's good to remember, if you can shadow -- if you can -- hide beneath the cross, there is nothing to be afraid of. this is a great campaign. we have had great experiences. some things work. some things don't. >> a visibly emotional newt gingrich on "fox news sunday" this morning. the interview sounded surprisingly like the beginnings of a possible concession. he used a lot of past tense and did a lot of reflection and laid
out what he wants to see in a conservative platform, most notably, energy reform and social security accounts. >> how important is it to win for you? >> that was rick santorum stressing the importance of a win in his home state of pennsylvania. his campaign communications director has said that the campaign could survive a loss in pennsylvania. but that it would be tougher. he joins me now, via skype. thank you very much for joining us. senator santorum announced late last night, he was suspending his campaign for a day to be resumed on tuesday to spend time with his daughter, bella, who has been hospitalized again.
but this has led to speculation that this may be the beginning of the end. any comment? >> well, happy easter, first and foremost. i appreciate the time. that's not what he said. he didn't suspend the campaign, hee we cancelled events for monday. they were private fund-raisers, of course, rick is focused right now on making sure that bella gets better. but there is no suspension of the campaign. the campaign moves on. we have a full slate of events on tuesday and hopefully, he will be on the trail, fulfilling the events on the schedule for next week. >> let's take a look at the recent polling from pennsylvania. the public policy, left-winning poll has santorum at 37, romney in the lead, 42, paul at 9 and gingrich at 6. the rasmussen poll...
>> what does it say that santorum cannot mount a convincing lead even in the state where he was once senator? >> it says it's a tough, tight race this. has been a slog from the beginning. we have consistently outperformed any expectations on the campaign. mitt romney barely won michigan by a percentage and we came out with the same number of delegates. his home state wasn't a walk either. gingrich did very well in his home state. rick is absolutely right. we have to win pennsylvania. the comeback start there is. we know it's important to the campaign. but it's important for both campaigns. ours and mitt romney's. if we win pennsylvania, we move into the month of may, where we have a lot of states that are going to be very good for us, we expect to capture the momentum and move to tampa with a head of steam f. romney wins, we have sto to consider what to do after that because that will be a
hilt. we expect to win pinheads & patriots. his his home state. he can speak their language and they understand who he is. >> the party elders, including jeb bush, former president george h.w. bush and senator marco rubio, nikki halley, all have endorsed your opponent, mitt romney. take a look here at senator mccain. >> they have watched this really rather disastrous campaign, which is really raised the unfavorables of all of our republican candidates rather dramatically. but they will be looking at him and give him, i think, another opportunity. i hope that rick santorum would understand that it's time for a graceful exit. >> a graceful exit. but you are banking on the strategy, which you talked about from pennsylvania to texas and hopefully, gaining momentum. really, most of the
establishment republican party sees this as a desperate hail mary pass. >> the establishment has been against us from day 1. if we had been listening to the establishment, rick santorum wouldn't have gotten into the race. before john mccain finished walking off the stage after the concession speech to president obama, they were trying to coordinate mitt romney. so this is nothing new to us. the establishment has been fighting against us, we are not concerned about that. but the strategy is pennsylvania and texas. no question. there is a movement to make texas winner take all. if that becomes winner take all, you are talking about a huge 155 delegate count back into our back pocket. and that makes this race a whole different dynamic and mitt romney knows that. we are talking about this because mitt romney understands that would be his worst nightmare to head into may, losing states and not having
momentum heading into the convention. we keep hearing it's over, but if it's over, why is he campaigning against us? >> we can talk about the strategy a lot longer, but we are out of time. thank you for taking time on your easter to join us. >> happy. god bless. >> attention is increasingly focusing on the mitt romney v.p., potentially. a lot of names are being thrown out there. who has a real shot? we will take a look. after the break, we will continue our coverage on the passing of journalism giant, mike wallace. his career spanned decades and inspired us all. wake up! that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm. fohalf the calories plus vgie nutrition. could've had a v8.
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>> it is a sad day in america, mike wallace died in a home in connecticut. he was born myron wallace, but he changed his flame to mike because he thought that myron sounded wimpy. he was a mainstay on "60 minutes" when he stepped down as a full-time correspondent in 2006. wallace was known for a tough interview style.
he took on politicians, crooks s and bureaucrats. he was the master of the follow-up question, he would say, forgive me, but: or come on... before launching his next volley. he is survived by his wife and his son chris, our colleague here at fox news. >> syrian troopsar, tacking opposition rebels, despite an international cease-fire, scheduled to bin -- to begin on thursday. the foreign min streis say that this government won't withdrawal without written guarantees from armed groups that they will lay down their weapons. the free syrian army is refusing the demands n. in afghanistan, night raids have been a difficulty. now a deal has been struck to
change the raids. we go to kabul now. >> night raids, according to the military, have long been the most effective tool they had in hunting down high-valued terrorists here in afghanistan, but they cause so much disruption and anti-americannism that there has been a mem -- memorandum signed that all night raids will be afghan-led with afghan legal jurisdiction. so no u.s. soldier on a night raid will be raiding homes or detaping suspected terrorists t. will be afghans doing the job. american soldiers will be helping them do that but in a support role. that will be in the case of advising, assisting and adding firefire, air support, intel and
med-evac. they will be involved in the intel, the majority of intel on the terrorists does come from the united states. so they will be able to guide the afghans on who they should be going after am but it is an afghan-led mission with regard to the night raids. an elite force will be set up with american assistance. the americans give them access to everything that the force needs to go after the most want the terrorists in the region, according to the general jam john allen, it will be the best special ops force in the south asia region sthral a lot of repercussions. other supports they expect to give them, besides the intel and the additional firefire, there are all sorts of special equipment that will be very expensive to the united states. but at the end of the day, what the trade-off is is paving the way for a strategic partnership with afghanistan, when the combat mission is coze supposed
to end here and they can move forward on where america will stand in afghanistan after that. we will know, perhaps in may, just what the relationship will look like. >> thank you very much. the cleanup and investigation into a navy jet crash in virginia beach is moving forward. we will look at what is being done for the dozens of people holost their homes. >>
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>> "60 minutes" anchor mike wallace has died. cent sept is here with that. >> a cbs spokesman says mike wallace died last night. he was one of the pioneering reporters on "60 minutes." he is the father of fox news anchor, chris wallace. the pope is calling for an end to violence in syria and the middle-east. he shared his easter main with more than 100,000 people outside of st. peter's basilica in rome.
residents of a virginia beach complex, hit by a jet friday, approximately 60 people have been left homeless because of the crash. but it killed no one. two people police believe were behind a string of shootings in tulsa, oklahoma, are behind bars. investigators received a tip that led them to the arrest of jake england and alvin watts. they are expected to be charged with three counts of first-degree murder and two counts of shooting shooting witt to kill. those are the top stories right now. back to you, doug. >> thank you, steve. >> mike mike wallace's reputatis a reporter was so tough, it was often said that the most dreaded words in the english language were: mike is here to see you. we have a look back at his life and his career. >> he was called the toughest and the most feared interviewer on television. >> i'm mike wallace. >> my ron leon wallace was born
may 9, 1918 in brookline, massachusetts. he was one of four children n. high school, he was heavily involved in extra curricular activity, including public speaking and a school newspaper. he attended college at the university of michigan and planned to be an english teacher, buhe was bitten by the broadcasting bug. >> the show is nightbeat. >> his first show, nightbeat, he grilled newsmakers and his controversial and direct style was a hit. he joined cbs in 1951, but left after a few years. in 1963, he was back at cbs news, as a special correspondent. five years later, he was one of the founding members of "60 minutes" which debuted with wallace, interviewing then-attorney general, ramsey clark. he had stories on biological warfare and the kent state shooting. >> for the first time, u.s. law
enforcement, ohio law enforcement in this case, killed somebody on a college campus. killed four, wounded nine. that is when suddenly, suddenly, the nixon administration, john mitchell, spiro agnew, foolishly established a climate of calling people less than patriotic. >> wallace was known for his ambush brews. >> everybody's sculghting like cockroaches. i don't understand. >> his legacy includes an interview with malcolm "x." >> are you not afraid of what might happen to you -- >> oh, yes. i probably am a dead man, already. >> dr. martin luther king jr. >> dr. martin luther king. >> yasser arafat. >> there are palestinians who would like to kill you. >> maybe they are opposing me, but not to kill me.
>> a man known as dr. death. >> there is something legal ghoulish in your desire to see the deed done. >> that's your opinion. >> and the chinese president. >> four score and 7 years ago, our fathers brought on this continent, a new nation. >> and his interviews read like a who's who of newsmakers. >> you must be good to me. >>. >> why would i be otherwise? >> you would love to control this piece. >> absolutely! are you kidding?! of course. i don't trust you. >> national pastime is? >> wallace found himself to be the story. a documentary he generated on general westmorland led to a libel suit. westmorlands accused wallas and cbs of reporting a story that was unslanted and untrue. it was settled out of court. later, he made his battle with
depression public, suffering after the lawsuit. he took on the tobacco industry and eventually, his own network. >> they just did not want this piece to go on the air because they were in the middle of negotiations with westing... to sell cbs to westinghouse. and westinghouse would not want to buy cbs, if it could be buying a $10 to $15 billion lawsuit. >> even in his 80s, he kept up a full schedule. >> i was married for 28 years to a woman who fed me nuts and raisins and occasional fish and we lived in a townhouse in new york city, five stories, up and down those, 20 times a day. >> in 2005, chris wallace sat down with his father on his program. >> and you don't retire because? >> because i love -- it is not work, what i do. i love what i do. when i get up in the morning and i think, i am going to have the
opportunity to... i wasn't that happy about waking up this morning. >> i felt the same way. [laughter] >> but this 2006, wallace did retire as a full-time correspondent and continued to contribute until finally hanging up his microphone, almost 60 years, the unmistakeable voice of mike wallace was not on the air, but his brave approach and unstinting style marked him as a journalistic legend, who inspired generations and his crusading manner will always be remembered. despite his controversial style, he was loved by many of the news makers he would pursue. >> few people could conduct an interview like him. there may not be a g.o.p. presidential nominee just yet, but that is not stopping people from playing the veep stakes. christie, ryan, rubio, are they
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>> at the last supper, jesus knew he was about to be crucified. as observant jews, jesus and his disciples would have sung the great halal,ening the meal, again with psalm 118. imagine jesus, knowing the agony he was about to face, singing this verse -- this is the day that the lord has made. we will rejoice and be glad in it. jesus rejoiced that he would be the sacrifice for our salvation this. easter, may you rejoice, oh,
give thanks to the lord, for he his good, for his mercy endures forever. >> there is no declared winner for the g.o.p. presidential primary. but you wouldn't know that by listening to president obama and mitt romney. it seems like they are ignoring the rest of the field and focusing on the general election, but is it too early for that? thanks for joining us, good to see you, on easter. i want to focus because romney is the conventional thinking, the presumed nominee and so much attention is folkussed on who he will pick for veep. the vice-president is not worth a bucket of warm spit, yet it remains so crucial to who become the president. who are the likely
vice-presidential picks at this point for romney? >> doug, first, happy easter. i don't think john nance garner would have said that had he been vice-president in the modern age. that was a very different time. he never became president. hubert hump tree free said -- excuse me, john adams said, i am nothing but i might be everything. hubert humphrey had a version of that. look, today's list -- we can't help ourselves, we are getting way ahead of ourselves, the way we often do, the republican race for president isn't over. but we are already on to speculation. the speck ielgzulation is centering mainly on two people, but there will be a long list. the two people are, of course, senator marco rubio from florida, a nontraditional choice that will please conservatives and senator ron portman from ohio, a more traditional choice, fully vetted with a lot of experience in congress and the executive branch in washington.
>> you mentioned rob portman, a guest columnist wrote that the nominees see seeking runningmates from key swing states don't hold up to scrutiny, historically peeking. explain that? >> it's interesting. the nominee for president tries to find somebody who, first of all, most importantly, fits with him. there has to be a chemistry there. they're the best person to judge that. is that chemistry there? second, they want to pick someone clearly qualified for the presidency. that's on their mind. if they do that, they believe some of the other considerations fall to the side. but i have to say, also, often nominees have tried to be too clever by half. they have tried to pick somebody that nobody was thinking of, that makes a point, from their perspective, that maybe didn't
sell in the general electorate, i think they would be better off remembering that it's about accumulating 270 votes in the electoral college. hoos the fame of the game. that would lead to you big state nominees for vice-president. >> romney has been lagging, according to recent polls, among women, single women, especially, obviously, single democratic women. what would a nominee like nikki halley do to remedy that, if anything? >> to judge by the past, want just sarah palin for the rbut also jrldine ferraro for the democrats, neerkt one did much to move the polls. i don't think people in either of those years based their presidential vote very much on the vice-presidential nominee. so based on that, it's only two case, but i doubt that nikki halley or suzanna martinez, governor of new mexico, would do very much by themselves to
shorten the gender gap. >> i was struck by what appeared to be a very good chemistry between romney and paul ryan in wisconsin. >> yes, there was a lot of personal chemistry. it's pushed paul ryan on the veep watch list. we all have a list. my crystal ball's coming out on thursday with a couple of surprises. but we all look for little indicators on the campaign trail that a presidential nominee is looking at somebody, or maybe getting along well with somebody because they do test some of these people out on the campaign trail before they make a decision. >> we always appreciate your expertise and insight. happy easter to you. >> same to you. thank you. >> good to see you. >> he's been endorse bide republican all stars like former florida governor jeb bush and nikki halley. he's running for congress and he is only 24 years old. is that legal?
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>> >> one of the reporters mike wallace influenced, his son, fox news anchor, chris wallace. last month, when chris wallace received a press corps award, here's what he had to say about his dad. >> i spent so much of my early life trying to get out from under his shadow. now as my father nears his 94th birthday and is slipping away, i don't want to you forget him. he wasn't easy. any of you who knew him can testify to that. but he was vibrant and funny and demanding and a truly great reporter.
>> high could become the youngest member of congress, if he wins in the fall. republican ricky gill, running for the ninth district. high has received notable endorsements from jeb bush and nikki halley. what is he saying that is resonating with the g.o.p. party leaders. ricky, happy easter to you. thank you for joining us. >> happy easter, doug. thanks for having me. >> let me get this straight. right now, if you were to be in office, in the building just across the street from me, you would be booted out because you are too young to be a sitting member of congress right now, right? >> i am turning 25. we are clearly constitutional. but i guess that's part of the novelty here. >> this is an interesting point. you will be legal when the time comes. but i. right. >> but i am struck how the republican party ded not fully embrace ron paul, a guy who attracted young people in hoards.
i remember being at c-pac a couple of years ago, and there were 20-somethings, lined up by the thousands to get a coup copy of his sign the book. what can you bring to the party that brings in young people? >> well, i think, with young voters, the republican party has tremendous opportunity to reach a new horizon and touch a new frontier, with issues like the crushing national debt and charter and public schools and is reforming the way that government works. young and old people, everybody in society want ace smaller, martyr government, that is cleaner, we deserve transparency and young people can be a captive audience for us. >> you appreciate the value in small businesses. what do small businesses bring to the growth of the u.s. economy? and on that subject, your competitor has experience in a small business. what differentiates your two
experiences? >> his experience in the congress, i think has been devastating for the district, it's voting for a stimulus that did not bring down youth unemployment and giving taxpayer-funded giveaways to solyndra. i think that's experience we need to turn away. people are ready to embrace a new generation of leadership. i know that people talk about my youth, but part and parcel of that is vision. i am in san francisco and 45 miles to my south, silicon valley, young people are pioneering innovation and we need to take that spirit and change to washington and that level of innovation should be taken to congress. shashouldn't be exempt from make egg positive difference. >> you are from an agricultural region of california, an area that has been devastated by unemployment, up to 20%. correct me if i am wrong? >> that's right. one reason people are rallying around the campaign, i get confronted with young people who have to face the gut-wrenching
decision of staying in high school or help their parents supplement their income. but there is no local representation. in the new district, there is not a single state or federal legislator who live there is. i feel fortunate to be their voice. >> how did unemployment get to be 20% in that region, quickly? >> there was a foreclosure crisis that hit hard, second only to las vegas, with a big part of the explanation. >> okay. ricky gill. running for congress in the ninth district in california. appreciate your time. good luck to you, sir. >> hey, thank, doug. happy easter, again. >> the pope delivered a special easter message to thousands in vatican city today. we will tell you what part of the world he focused the message on this year. for a special message from joel and victoria ostine. [ male announcer ] drinking a smoothie with no vegetable nutrition?
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a legend in the news business is dead. a cbs spokesperson says mike wallace died last night in connecticut. he was 93 years old and had been ill for several years. he was the crusading reporter who helped make 60 minutes a success. during his news career he doingedly went after leaders and liars in his signature style. i'm doug mcelway live in washington. our hearts go out to the entire wallace family including his son, our colleague, chris wallace. we begin with steve se centanni who has a look at the life of
mike wallace. >> most people sat down with interviews with mike wallace never knowing what to expect. here are a few of the revealing moments. >> it was -- >> the president of the united states. >> it was what -- i don't know enough about iran contra, mike, to talk to you intelligently about it. >> and he calls you imam, for give me, his words, not mine. a lunatic. was there anything that the secret service could have done to keep that from happening? >> i think that you would agree that a good many people hated your husband. >> are you the least bit afraid of what might happen to you as a result of making theses revealations? >> oh, yes. i probably am a dead man already. >> a skeptical topup question. ual loss got to the heart of the matter and tossed tough questions at his friends like
ronald and nancy regan. he made the move to tv in the 50s and got a break in 1958 when was the first hire of producer don hewitt putting together 60 minutes which, of course, went on to become the most successful news program for decades. he hosted the program for 38 seasons until he retired as a regular correspondent in 2006. the show pioneered the use of ambush interviews but wallace later said they produced much drama and very little information. over his long career he covered the vietnam war. he interviewed presidents and dictators, actors and artists. he got the first interview with euthanasia advocate dr. jack kevorkian. he sat down with nixon aide during the watergate scandal. he died at a care facility in connecticut. he was 93 and, of course, his son chris wallace works in this studio every sunday doing "fox news sunday." our condolences to him.
>> indeed. steve centanni, thank you very much. joining us to share his memories of mike wallace is the former executive director of cbs news. thank you so much for sharing with us. when was the last time you saw him? >> about a year say go i went to hit him up at this place that he was living in new caanan. >> did anything stick out in your mind? >> i didn't know what to expect. he was alert, much more than i had expected or been warned about but he tired very easily. and but otherwise he seemed in very good shape. >> that is interesting you say that because i think for viewers like me i was always impressed by his apparently infatiguableness. >> and the people that worked with him felt the same way. he was really a tough task master. very fair but boy, he really made you produce.
>> that is interesting to me. i have had a chance to see chris wallace in action here behind the scenes a little bit and i'm struck by his work ethic. i assume i know where that came from. >> yes, absolutely. absolutely. chris started in the news business very, very early which i guess is part of his heritage. you you know, mike decided to become a serious newsman on the tragic accidental death of chris wallace's older brother in greece. this was back in the late '50s. and -- or early '60s. and mike who then had so many ambitions to be an actor, actually he appeared in at least one broadway play that i know of, maybe more. decided that he was going to devote his life to serious journalism. >> that is interesting to me because i wonder, i think it jogged my memory that the death of his son may have contributed to his bought wit bout with den
over the years. >> he had several serious bouts of depression and including one attempt at suicide to which he confessed as a result of the depression. >> and for people who suffer from depression he did a great deal by becoming public with that. >> oh, yes. at one point a doctor he was seeing a therapist prescribed zoloft to him, some sort of antidepressant drug and you couldn't say hello to mike wallace that he didn't give you a lecture and want to know why you hadn't taken your zoloft today. it became kind of an office joke. he was very concerned. he physically took very good care of himself which is why he stayed so vital so long. >> another episode of depression i don't mean to overly focus on this but in the aftermath of the lawsuit brought against cbs, i mentioned it in an earlier interview it took a tremendous toll and both men but they
later became friends. >> i don't know about that. general westmoreland and mike. >> yes. >> that is something i was never aware of. it is quite possible. i mean that happened over and over again. mike becoming friends with subjects of his interviews. >> and quickly how will you best remember mike wallace? >> i best remember mike wallace when i first worked with him way back before cbs when was a local anchorman on seen on the dumont network which no longer exists, i think fox news is probably a legacy of that network. and mike would come in and get dressed up in a suit, the sponsor suit, deliver the news and then after a pause walk across the studio and deliver a commercial trying to sell you a bond suit which gave you an extra pair of pants if you bought the suit. >> we don't do that today.
the former executive producer of the cbs evening news with walter cronkite. thank you so much for your remembrances. >> my pleasure. more than 100,000 christians packed into vatican city to hear a special easter message from pope benedict today. greg burke live from rome with more on what the pope had to say. >> reporter: doug, that's right, what a day in rome. you know, the message was eis sentencingly two fold. part of it geopolitical, part spiritual. the spiritual side saying the encounter with the risen christ is something that should change your life. massive crowds here in and outside of st. peter's square. overflow at st. peter's square to hear the message. flags and faces from all over the world. incredible vibes going through that crowd except for a few pick pockets perhaps all were
really there to celebrate the joy of the resurrection along with the pope in st. peter's square. now, the pope making a major plea for peace. that perhaps is the more geopolitical message. he was going through a number of the trouble spots around the globe, many of them in africa, he pointed specifically to sudan, nigeria and mali and also talking about the holy land and making a special plea for christians who are being persecuted around the globe. last night at the easter vigil that is a very, very moving ceremony in st. peter's basilica. an interesting homely talking about darkness and light and saying that man kind often seems to be groping in the dark unable to tell the difference between good and evil but saying that in the end good will prevail. finally, doug, one interesting point. the pope is 84 and will be 85 in just over a week. certainly slowing down but not stopping. we have confirmation today he would be going in mid september
a short trip to lebanon. it will be interesting to see what he has to say there about christians in neighboring syria. that is a major concern on part of the vatican. >> greging burke at the vatican, thank you very much. thousands of christians also gathered in jerusalem for easter sunday at one of the holiest churches. the site of jesus' crucifixion and resurrection. >> you start to realize just how much all of these pilgrims have sacrificed to come from all over the world to experience this place and as you watch them get closer and closer to the place that jesus was buried and is said to have rose from you get the sense not only are they experiencing a religious journey but also a spiritual one. the latin pate patriarch.
pilgrims gathered to experience a very different kind of east. about the site and where jesus was and not about the candy and it is not about the ham for dinner. >> easter ends the holy week for christians in scru jerusal. fridays pilgrims marched down. many are singing here as they walk down from the second station of the cross where jesus is said to have actually received his cross here to the third station where the bible says he fell down as he was carrying it toward the church. many of the folks who are here walking tell us they feel so much closer to their faith for having experienced this very sacred place. ♪ >> saturday, pilgrims crowded the church to experience the miracle of the holy fire said to be one of the oldest in
history as clergy representing christians from ethiopia to the philippines to the united states led their flocks through the holy experience. >> one of the things that is the most interesting part of this as you see all of the various different religions and how they individually celebrate the same event in the same celebration of easter. however, a couple of the americans put it to me, doug, they said it is interesting to see all this but in the end we are all celebrating the very same thing. back to you. >> leland, thank you so much for that report. all of the gop presidential candidates are taking the easter holiday weekend off but they are scheduled to be back on the campaign trail this week. up next on the gop election calendar, connecticut, delaware, new york, pennsylvania and rhode island on april 24. pennsylvania is key. it is senator santorum -- it is senator santorum's home state and could make or break his campaign.
nationally the real clear politics average shows mitt romney with a clear advantage over his rivals. mitt romney leading by almost 10% over second place rick santorum polling at 28%. newt gingrich and ron paul far behind in third and fourth place with 13 and 1 12% respect livively. rick santorum has no intention of getting out of the race soon despite calls for him to do so. is it time for him or any other candidate to leave? here for a fair and balanced debate on that and more are rob johnson, former campaign manager for the rick perry campaign and doug fornell, former dcccc spokes person. thanks for joining us. is it time for santorum to get out of the race? >> i'm happy to answer that. i think just to be sensitive to mr. santorum, i know he is going through a difficult time right now with his daughter and so my thoughts and prayers go out to him on that. i think it is such a personal thing to pull out after all of the energy and resources he has
expended and i guess the question is what is he looking for down the road. is he trying to focus now more on 2016? does he want to keep mitt honest and force him to stay that conservative candidate the way newt gingrich is trying to do? does he want influence over the party convention platform? it is really hard to say what he wants and i think until you know that it is hard to determine when and if he is going to pull out. >> rob johnson, what is your opinion? >> well, i agree. there is absolutely no reason for rick santorum to get out of this race until rick santorum is ready to get out of the race. this is a long and grueling process. he has put in a lot of time. a lot of time and a lot of energy. he has actually won 11 states so why are the calls for him to drop out of the race happening? he earned the right and should stay in the race as long as he wants to. >> the calls i guess are based more than anything on the mathematical improbabilities of
him winning that the point. it is just almost impossible for him to claim a victory at this point given the way the delegates are allotted at this point. your reaction to that? >> but we also have to remember that the republican national committee set the process up to be a marathon and not a sprint. and so that is exactly what is happening with the proportionality of the votes in a lot of states this is going to be a long and grueling process and we knew it from day one. everyone needs to relax and let the process take care of itself. i doubt that people are sitting at their kitchen table today having easter lunch or easter dinner talking about delegate math. they are talking about the price of gasoline and disasterrous economy. let's let the race play out. >> is the gop rethinking that strategy? i mean it is eating up money and eating into each of the candidates to the advantage of president obama? >> i think they might be rethinking it. but look, i think they looked at what happened with democrats in 2008 and thought that this would be a way to give the
party a jolt of energy. i think for mr. santorum, you know, if the main primary states actually occurred in april there would be a real sense of optimism because there are a number of primaries in may that he should do pretty well in. but the problem for him is april is looking like a really, really tough month for him. and i think if he loses, pennsylvania, that is really going to be problematic for his campaign. and problematic for his legacy. >> let's quickly turn to mr. gingrich right now. he was on "fox news sunday" this morning and i was struck by how much he spoke in the past tense looking back at the campaign. also suggestion of how deeply in debt the campaign is at this point. he was a little sentimental, a little emotional. all seemed to be leaning towards his inevitable dropping out of the race. should he drop out now? >> i think that, you know, he has said that he wants to keep mitt romney honest and i think what has happened to mitt romney is he has had to take so
many different positions and flip flop on so many issues he has become kind of like this human pretzel and i think what newt gingrich and many conservatives are worried about is he is going to try to resenter himself and talk away from some of the conservative positions. he is trying to stay in the race to keep mitt romney honest. that is a hard since it is such a principled position i think it will be hard to get newt out and newt seems to do what newt wants to do. i would be surprised if newt jumps out. >> you worked with newt before perry. what do you think his motivation is? >> i think he wants to keep the field honest and make sure that the issues that are important to him such as the 10th amendment and smaller government continue to be talked about. and i think -- i don't think, i know that all of the candidates that are left in the race have said they are going to support the republican nominee and we are all going to band together and do our best to defeat barack obama.
thank you both for joining us on this easter. good to see you. >> thank you. >> thanks. >> it is holy time for both christians and jews this weekend and that has some wondering is america still one nation under god? or is religious faith a victim of political correctness? we'll explore that question with father jonathan morris, coming up next. with the capital one cash rewards card
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reaction to the death of mike wallace is coming in from the gop presidential candidates. just minutes ago mitt romney tweeted my experience with mike wallace, integrity, charm, character, a great one goes home. and newt gingrich who was just on "fox news sunday" this morning released a statement saying "mike was a giant in news reporting and analysis. his investigative reporting was legendary and his participation in 60 minutes helped create a lasting institution. mike wallace's life created a legacy young reporters will study for years to come. this is easter sunday for christians and passover week for jews. during this holy time we started to wonder how much of a role does religion play in american life these days? are we still one nation under god or is political correctness wiping all traces of faith from
our public lives. father jonathan morris joins us from new york. thank you for joining us. >> thank you so much. >> shouldn't you be delivering a sermon. >> i had one last night and this morning and one at 11 in spanish but i'm happy to come back and forth. >> a timely topic not only because it is easter but there was a news item, the elementary school in belling ham came under intense fire from parent there's for changing the lyrics to lee greenwood's song god bless the usa to we love the usa. the school district superintendent relented and then changed the lyrics back. small potatoes in and of itself but symptomatic of a larger picture of what we see in america today. do you agree? >> there are small reasons for it.
people who are activists trying to get rid of the name and voice of god from the voice of the public square. then you get rid of it eventually from the conscience of individuals. then there are others and probably this case with this song who out of a very good and noble desire not to offend somebody they have decided that the best way not to do that is not to be themselves or not to in any way publicly express their beliefs. that is misconstrued and our country is great not when the majority overwhelms the minority and says you are not allowed to express your faith whatever it happens to be but when our country says the minorities, the majority, those in between, it doesn't matter. be who you are and enjoy being it. and we will respect that. that is real diversity. >> without religion, is a principle like the ten commandments does goodness become subjective then?
is there anything which distinguishes good from evil without that guiding principle as something like the ten commandments. >> that is a great question. first of all, i can say that because i believe we have the law of god writen in our hearts what some philosophers have called the natural law. whether we believe in a god who is the ultimate judge or not, whether we have religion or not we can respond to the dictates of our conscience. but religion has played an enormous factor and continues to play an enormous factor in people's lives to promote that type of good living. and i think when we get rid of religion if we get rid of it from the public square and say it is not freedom of religion, it is freedom of worship, go into your temple or your church and do your thing, we have a taken out a big part of the social fabric of moral living based on an understanding of god and an ultimate judge and commandments from job to love
our nanner and if we don't have that our country is worse off not better off. small potatoes that turn into a big meal if we allow ourselves to be taken over by the small group of activists or the misconstrued understanding of respect. >> father jonathan morris. i was afraid to ask that question because poems have been written about it but you captured it in a concise way. this morning the first family did what a lot of families did on easter sunday. they walked to church. just across from the white house they heard a sermon on the importance of faith in today's world. after communion the first lady family shook hands with other parishonners as they made their way back to their seats. north korea is preparing to launch a long-range rocket. an alarming violation of a ban on missile activity. we will take a closer look at the implications of that move, coming up next. wake up!
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as we have been telling you many in the news business are mourning the loss of legendary journalist mike wallace. he was a giant in the industry and inspired generations of reporters. joining us on the phone is fox news correspondent john roberts. of course, you worked at cbs, i believe you just told me in 1992 was the first year there. i would imagine it must have been an intimidating thing to go to work with a towering figure like mike wallace there. >> i worked there for 14 years, 1992 to 2006. and you think of all of the towering figures that you went to work with who are sadly no longer with us. you know, walter cronkite was still very much on the scene back then, don how witt who was the executive producer of 60 minutes and mike wallace and now within the last three years they have all passed on. the last time i saw mike wallace and i didn't get a chance to say h hi to him was at the memorial service for walter in new york back in
2009. and mike was not looking good at that point. you know, he had had that fall in martha's vineyard in 2003 or 2004 in which he hit his head hard and since then he was on a slow decline. when was in his heyday and it lasted until he was 85 or 86 years old and can you imagine going that long. i mean he was just untouchable. he really defined the tough interview. he wrote a book with a good friend of mine beth noble a few years back called heat and light suggesting sort of a guidepath for the next generation of journalists and talked about heat and life. heat being the drama of news and light the imaluminum nation of the facts. mike wallace was an incredible combination of both of thoses. the heart of a newsman, the
solid no nonsense newsman but the air of a performer as well and very often in his interviews it would seem it was as much about how mike wallace asked the question as much as the answer he got. he was just -- he was so brilliant at doing it. the bottom line, doug, you knew if mike wallace came knocking on your door you were about to have a bad day. >> we said that already today. what a quote to have associated with your name. 20 seconds or less, john. i suspect that a lot of that talent that looks so natural on television was really preparation. what was his work ethic like from what you could see there at cbs. >> he lived, breathe, ate, slept, drank the news business. i was anchoring the sunday news at that point and he would come in at 2:00 in the afternoon in what we would call the fish comingd had a big piece
up that night and he would be fired up. we finally got what we were looking for. wait until you see that tonight. he was a passionate journalist and it was h his life. that and tennis. his tennis matches with don hewitt the executive producer. you rarely see somebody so fired up about journalism as mike was. he was a great meanter to all of us there. >> downroberts thanks for your remembrances and taking a little time on your easter sunday for us. thank you you. >> thank you doug. according to the washington post, white house officials don't think iran has built a nuclear bomb. and if tehran did decide to assemble one the u.s. would know in time to consider its options. that story comes just ahead of scheduled nuk nuclear talks ben iran and six nuclear powers this week. >> how much do we really know
about iran's nuclear program? the white house is arguing we may know quite a bit. the washington post report that's administration is trying to convince israel that the u.s. of cia drones and intelligence on the ground has given us a good idea of where iran's nuclear program stands at the moment. the white house officials believe that iran hasn't yet made a decision to start building a nuclear weapon but even if they did it should take at least a year to make that happen. the idea here is to buy some time from israel to hold off on any kind of mill tare arery action to see if diplomacy will work to try to limit but not necessarily eliminate iran's nuclear program. one administration critic is questioning that strategy. >> the underlying problem, the basic iranian uranium enrichment program is being further will get matted and oured a minute -- legit mated and our administration seems to think that iran is entitled to
enrich uranium. it is just a bad, bad way to start. >> well, as talks begin later this week between iran, the u.s. and five other nations, the white house will reportedly demand that iran shut down a new nuclear facility that has just been built deep inside a mountain. the white house is still hoping that the combination of economic sanctions and new round of diplomacy will make all the difference here. iran has always mundaned that its nuclear program is just for peaceful purposes. >> nortnorth korea made it cler this still intends to go through with the missile test. what should the u.s. do if they go through with their plans? joining us is fox news correspondent whalid. a sign that the launch appears imminent, the missile being put
noplace. into place. what are your thoughts about it? >> they have linked food aid to acceptance by the regime to make concessions. the means that regime at any time can stop the deal and go back with the missile's launching and when they are about to launch a missile it means they want something from the other are states. >> and they continue to get what they want. >> they are continuing to get what they want because we are not placing basically the domestic nor the regional stang sanctions system nor forcing the regime to admit that they should stop the program. >> one of my favorite expressions is it is useless for the sheep to make resolutions of vegetarianism when the wolfs are of a different opinion. it strikes me that the united states policy here is incredibly naive. >> washington is not looking at north korea as a wolf. they are looking at them as a strange species. these are regimes that you have
to put under pressure and partner with their population to put a strategy to change the regimes or change the behavior of the regime and not count on the morality of that regime. >> the former u.n. ambassador john bolton said the way to negotiate with north korea is through china. china does not want to see a collapse of this regime and they do not want an in flux of refugees. they have very much a vested interest in seeing that either the peninsula is reunited or are that there is stability there. >> that it true. to deal with the north korea regime you have to have two arms. one arm which is the regional powers around north korea. south korea and japan and other forces. they need to be part of the strategy to cut off any supply to north korea and then of course, as the ambassador has mentioned you need to deal with china. china has two incentives. if there is a crisis in north korea they will get hundreds of thousands of refugees and we need to tell the chinese we will be with you to solve that
problem. the other if they are not on board they may lose not just the relationship with the united states but also with the market in the pacific. >> another interesting development in recent days. the north apparently has launched new sub marines and south korea retaliated. they have the right to return fire. is this it an escalation in your mind? >> it is an escalation. the north koreans are coming close and then they withdraw. they don't have the intention to do a full fledged conflict but they have the intention of intimidating the south koreans and that is a market economy so they are afraid of any conflict. that is what the north koreans are trying to do. the response should be an absolutely coalition in the region including china and russia has borders to make sure that the north koreans feel isolate. >> lastly in a few seconds, like father like son in north korea. >> like father, like son, like
grandson. >> thank you so much for your insight. >> thank you. >> coming up next, more on the life of veteran journalist mike wallace. we will talk to a man who used to be the president of cbs. [ gans ] [ marge ] psst. constipated? phillipscaplets use magnesiu an ingredient that rks more naturally with your colon than stulant laxatives, phillipscaplets use magnesiu for effective relie of constation without cramps. thanks. good morning, students. today we're gonna continue... not quite knowing what the next phase was going to be, you know, because you been, you know, this is what you had been doing. you know, working, working, working, working, working, working. and now you're talking about, well you know, i won't be, and i get the chance to spend more time with my wife and my kids. it's my world.
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this is a sad day in the world of journalism. legendary newsman mike wallace has died. he died last night at a care facility in connecticut where he had lived in recent years. he was 93 years old. dean was president of cbs broadcast group from 1977 to 1989 and knew mike wallace well, and joins us now by phone. thank you so much for joining us. good too see you. >> thank you. it is a pressure to be asked to say something about mike. >> what goes through your mind on an occasion like this? >> s an outstanding journalist for almost 70 years and marriage contributor to the success of 60 minutes for close to 40 years and likes of his
kind will probably never be found again. cbs has long been known as the epitch any of the networks, the andy rooneys and mike wallace helped establish that. >> you were i suppose technically speaking the boss of all of mike wallace's losses. bosses. i would imagine he was the model employee in a million different ways. >> absolutely. hard to find anybody who didn't like them unless they were the people that he nailed because of astute questioning and journalistic capabilities. >> and he must have due to the success of 60 minutes been responsible for bringing tremendous amounts of money into the network and an incredible work ethic as well. >> it is the work ethic that we care about, journalistic integrity and mike was one of
the hardest workers of all. use to see people play the games of six degrees of separation. i said i'm one degree from anybody in the world because i know mike wallace. >> i see. do you have personal experiences you might like to share with us? >> well, the ones that are really personal i don't want to share but needless to say he was a good supporter of mine and i was a good supporter of his. on a more personal note that i always admired was his tennis playing ability even into his old age and i give tennis the credit for the aerobics and hard work that brings to the body that helped like live to be 93 years old. a renaissance man. not only a good journalist but involved with an interest in everything from sports to world events. >> to true. the fact that he was able to carry out that level of journalism at that age and still be entirely with it, sharp and on the wall is just
remarkable. >> it is. but again, it is an attitude comes from a desire to cover a good story and put your body on the line regardless of where the story would come from. just instilled with a lot of people like that i might add. >> we appreciate your time with us. former president of the cbs broadcast group. thank you. thank you. a father has a medical emergency. the only one to help is his 22 month old son. the little hero's story, coming up next. millions celebrate this season as a moment of resurgence and a moment whereby we acknowledge the resurrection of jesus christ. my hope for you during this spring holiday is that a resurgence of faith, hope and joy might be yours in a tangible and practical way that can be attained through you
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if you want to see snow you need to head a anchorage alaska, they just spoke a 60 year record for the most snow in a season. so far they received over 133 inches. meanwhile looks like a quiet day for the rest of us. chief meteorologist rick reichmuth at the fox weather center. i'm glad that snow is about a whole continent away, rick. >> in the continental u.s. it seemed like we didn't have much of a winter. it was across alaska and much of europe. there was a winter globally but not in the lower 48. a warm march. things cooled down a little bit. everybody feeling like spring kind of like what you should feel like on easter. a couple of tiny problems. one across maine. rain and snow there. that form is going to plague us the next few days across the northeast. higher elevations seeing snow again across the northeast.
still dealing with a little bit of winter. rain across parts of texas and oklahoma. any rain we get in here is really still good news. and more and out across the west another system bringing coastal rain today. this will eventually make its way in two days down towards southern, california. a slow mover as well. today no big severe weather but people across kansas and oklahoma and texas need to be on the watch because tomorrow the severe threat returns again. could see a few small tornadoes likely and certainly some hail and wind and looks like a lot of this coming week is going to remain stormy right here across the same area of the plains. the rain is good but some of the severe weather that comes along with it might be problematic. doug? thank you very much. a 22 month old has saved his father's life this weekend. jimmy was loading his pickup when blacked out from a seizure. the toddler ran to the garage and banged on it until his mother came. she called 911. he says he is thankful to his
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bunnies. brenda buttner has the details. happy easter. >> the easter bunny doesn't care about the prices at the pump he jumps right past them. that is what the spending this easter shows. americans shelling out an average of $145 and change on everything from clothes to candy on the who will did i total spending expected to hit nearly $17 billion. what are you spending on. in you guessed it. you have the biggest appetite for candy. nearly 90% of those celebrating easter buying more than $2 billion of traditional favorites such as chocolate eggs and jellybeans. spending more this year than last. on average more than 20 bucks per person on the sweet stuff. food, too. the average person spending $44 and change up from 40 bucks last year. now, some of our viewers weighed in with their easter
plans. bill heitner of new york city says he is spending more because he is cooking. where is my invite, bill? same for wendy of florida. groceries are higher and i'm cooking but i won't skimp. will the easter bunny turn out to be the energizer bunny for the economy? remains to be seen. but for now he is eggs-actly what was needed. >> you shouldn't have done that. >> enjoy. >> look who came to the fox news washington bureau while you were doing that story. the easter bunny. >> i know you love your peeps. >> speaking of which when you think of candy many of us think of peeps and according to the just born company that makes them peeps have been the most popular nonchocolate easter candy for more than 20 years. and here in d.c. people do more than just eat peeps they make
art out of them. this is the winning diorama from this year's washington post peep show entitled occu peep d.c. this is just peeped made to resemble the royal wedding. the paper received 755 entries for the sugary contest. my favorite thing to do with these is put them in the microwave of venic oven for an. they get giant. senators ron johnson and kent conrad join brit for an exclusive interview on the budget debate. thanks for watching fox where captioned by closed captioning services, inc.