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good morning. it is thursday, december 3rd, 2015. welcome to "cbs this morning." a married couple opens fire at a holiday party, killing 14, and wounding many more. norah o'donnell is on the scene of the massacre in san bernardino, california. >> we are hearing harrowing stories from the victims and learning new details about the shooters. but big questions still remain about why this happened. president obama tells us once again that stronger gun laws are needed. we will ask how speaker paul ryan, what can be done to prevent the next tragedy. we begin this morning with a look at today's "eye opener." your world in 90 seconds. based upon what we have seen and how they were equipped, there had to be some of degree of planning that went into this. >> another mass shooting rocks the nation.
bernardino left 14 people dead and 17 injured. >> i was just numb. i was just in disbelief. >> after the attack the suspects were killed in the shoot-out. >> this was a fierce gun battle, fierce gun battle. >> law enforcement agencies are working to figure out the exact motive. >> the one thing we do know is that we have a pattern now of mass shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world. >> a report about the secret service now covered more than 140 breaches and investigators called the secret service an agency in crisis. >> britain has carried out air strikes in syria at this hour, after parliament approved attacks on isis. >> we work with our allies to degrade or destroy this threat or do we sit back and wait for them to attack us? >> swiss authorities made multiple arrests in connection with the corruption scandal engulfing fifa's governing body.
manslaughter verdict against pistorious has been thrown out. >> this shooting was captured on cell phone video. >> oh, my god! >> according to u.s. army officials who pilots were killed come an apache helicopter went down in tennessee near ft. campbell. >> and all that matters. >> we are all thinking about the california. >> in washington, d.c., house speaker paul ryan began the a moment of silence. >> on "cbs this morning." >> we have only been on the air for nine months and it baffles me that we have to talk so often about mass shootings and tragedy. >> this is really unacceptable. it's just so overwhelming. it's happening too [ bleep ] much, all right? announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by toyota. let's go places. welcome to "cbs this
massacre in america. this time, a deadly rampage turned a holiday party into horror. it happened wednesday at a social service service in san bernardino, california. 14 people were killed. another 17 are hurt. hundreds of people evacuated the complex after the shooters fired. >> the suspects are a married couple. police killed them a few hours later in a violent confrontation bout a mile from the shooting scene. one officer was wound. . we have a team of correspondents covering all angles of this story starting with norah o'donnell who is on the scene of the regional center in san bernardino. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you and gayle and charlie. this was supposed to be a happy occasion, a holiday banquet, but it suddenly turned into an active shooter scene. we are learning more details this morning about the people who were inside the building at the time. also, there is new information this morning about the husband and wife team who police say
so we are going to start with carter evans who is here with me. >> reporter: the suspects are dead now and killed in a rampage two hours, a couple of hours after the shooting. now, one police officer was injured in that shoot-out. he is in the hospital with nonlife-threatening injuries. as for the reason behind the massacre? that is still a mystery. >> the response out here is immense. >> reporter: the first reports of gunfire came at around 11:00 a.m. local time. police say two assailants, a man and a woman. >> they came prepared to do what mission. >> each suspect had a long gun, a pistol, tactical type clothing that was loaded with magazines, extra magazines for a go fight. >> bunch of shots. multiple shots. shots going off like crazy, one right after the other.
could see >> reporter: is she okay? >> pray for it. >> reporter: some of the injured were treated at a triage center outside, while others were being evacuated by law enforcement, as caught on this cell phone video. >> i'll take a bullet before you did, for damn sure so be cool, okay. >> reporter: the assailants escaped and all local buildings on lockdown. they reported a black suv fleeing the scene and approximately 4 1/2 hours later at around 3:30 local time, police hunting for the killers, riddled a black suv with gunfire in a shoot-out caught on police scanner audio. >> san bernardino is shedding.
there is one guy in the back of a car. >> reporter: people living nearby quickly took cover. >> we started like ducking down and then started shooting again over there. and then -- then a rain of bullets everywhere. >> reporter: the two suspects killed were identified as 28 yered u.s.-born syed farook and his wife tashfeen malik. authorities still haven't determined a motive for the assault. >> i think based upon what we have seen and based upon how they were equipped, there had to be some degree of planning that went into this, so i don't think they just ran home, put on these types of tactical clothes and grabbed guns and came back on a spur of the moment thing. >> reporter: at least explosive devices were found inside the building, all connected together and believed to be real and detonated later by the bomb squad. for those injured authorities are not releasing any details on the extent of their injuries.
about this this morning. authorities are looking to find out as much as they can about these shooters. soon after the massacre, police raided a home in nearby redland and that is connected to the married couple. david begnaud is near that house with reaction from the suspect's family. >> reporter: good morning. right now, the crime scene is still active. investigators have been here throughout the night. the street where thehe suspects lived on is evacuated. that is because there was a concern initially there may be explosives in the area. direct your attention down the street. in front of that police car a small vehicle and door is open and trunk is popped. that, we are told, is a vehicle that belongs to one of the suspects. it was down this street inside one of the apartments that the suspect we are told lived with his mother, his wife and their 6 month old baby girl.
identified identified syed farook and tashfeen malik who was married to farook as the suspects for the shooting. they say farook was at a holiday party with coworkers and he left abruptly and returned with his wife. shortly after, shots were fired. >> i'm shocked this happened. >> reporter: the brother-in-law said the couple was married two years and had a 6-month-old daughter and reportedly left the daughter with a grandmother. khan offered his condolences to the family of the victims and expressed disbelief and shock. >> i have no idea. i have no idea why would he do that? why would he do something like this? i have absolutely no idea. >> reporter: late last night, police used a battery ramp to enter a home in redland which is
suspect syed rizwan farook. police sent a robot into the explosives. the two were chased in a police pursuit that ended with a shoot-out shoot-out. cbs news were told both were in tactical clothe onning and armed with assault rifles and multiple magazines attached to their clothing and handguns were in their suv. police are tracing if they were legally purchased and, if so they will say the two people who died in the shootout are the
were involved. >> reporter: we have been talking to authorities. i was also interviewing president obama at the white house. he called on lawmakers around the country to pass tougher gun laws. >> we have a pattern now of mass shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world. and there are some steps we could take not to eliminate every one of these mass shootings, but to improve the odds that they don't happen as frequently. common sense, gun safety laws, stronger background checks. we have a no fly list where people can't get on planes. but those same people who we don't allow to fly could go into a store right now in the united states and buy a firearm. and there's nothing we can do to
we should come together at every level of government to make these rare, as opposed to normal. >> reporter: and on that note, this morning people are remembering the lives of those lost in this mass shooting. in fact, i'm just right over this bridge is where it happened at the inland regional center. they've actually got it blocked off because it is still an active situation there. we do know there were many people who gathered for a candlelight vigil last night in san bernardino to honor the 14 victims. >> reporter: good morning. well the loma linda medical center here received five patients, two of them critically wounded. this is a level one trauma
for this kind of mass casualty crisis. >> i called my kids and said there's a shooting here. just be safe. >> reporter: panic, chaos and confusion followed the gunfire in san bernardino. >> shot in her side. they told me not to come! these guys are still alive, you know that, right? >> we told hors stay downer to stay down and i love her. got in the car because she didn't respond. >> reporter: families huddled after learning about the mass shooting. >> she said i've been shot and i was at a christmas party and i don't know what is going to happen. and i'm scared and i love you. >> not knowing is she okay, is she going to live? where was she shot. >> reporter: their sister was among the 17 inland regional center's survivors hit by bullets. >> she said that the shooters came in and they just started unloading rounds on the people that were in the building with her. >> we are okay now because we
she did have one gunshot wound to her back. >> reporter: hundreds were on the ground when the firing began. >> most of the people wounded and most of the victims were all centrally located in one area of the facility. >> reporter: victims were met at loma linda by a prepared staff who were troubled by the day's attack. >> we had five adult patients brought to the hospital. we are all shaken and bothered by this and we are treating these people that didn't need to get hurt today. >> reporter: here at the loma linda medical center, as medical staff were taking care of the wounded, police received what they call a credible bomb threat. in the end sno splos, no explosives were found but this center is on added security alert. >> joining me is the mayor. mayor, my deepest condolences. this is your city. this is your community. it's in pain.
victims who are hurting this morning. have you spoken with any of them? >> i have not had a chance to speak with any of them. of course, our first priority has been and continues to be our citizens public safety. >> reporter: what can you tell us about the events that unfolded yesterday? >> as you know, this is a tragic and shocking event that took place yesterday. it started around 11:00 in the morning. i received notification of it about 11:25. i was at a county transportation authority meeting, left there immediate and went to shalcity hall. >> these are people who are working for social health and caring for people. why did this happen? >> we don't have the motivate at this time. we characterize this as a senseless event, a tragic, violent crime that was committed against innocent people and certainly had no -- noforethought
christmas party event. i think it's difficult to really understand the magnitude of the impact this has on those families that will, over the course of unfolding time and days, their lives have changed. >> what do you want your community to know? >> well, i certainly want them to know that we mourn with those victims who have been tragically impacted by this event. these crimes need to be effectively dealt with, they need to be prosecuted. >> mayor, when you hear that this is the worst shooting since sandy hook in newtown, connecticut, what does that make you think? >> these events, they shock communities.
reprioritize those things that are more important. they draw on their father and they draw closer to family and they realize that life is precious. we need to do what we can to make sure we make the best choices that we can, that we maintain a standard that doesn't drop to the level of those who committed these crimes. >> mayor, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you, norah. >> it's more than a city in shock. it's a country in shock because of that very fact that this is the worst shooting 2015. we are going to have much more from san bernardino throughout the morning. just ahead, too, i'm going to speak with the doctor in charge of the emergency room that treated some of the wounded charlie and gayle? >> thanks, norah. british war planes are joining the american-led bombing campaign against isis in syria. royal air force jets took off this morning from a base in cyprus. britain's military say the plane struck critical oil facilities in omar near the border with iraq.
a major source of income for isis. the bombings followed an emotional ten-hour debate in britain's parliament. lawmakers voted by nearly a 2-1 margin to back the air attacks. norah at the white yesterday when news of the shooting broke out and she was there to interview the president about many issues including the fight against isis. that interview took place in the white house cabinet room. she asked him about his decision to send about 200 special operation troops to carry out raids in iraq and syria. >> reporter: you have said no boots on the ground. but this is almost trippling the amount of forces you've approved there. is this going back on your word? does this mean we are going to have greater involvement now? >> when i said no boots on the ground on, i think the american people understood generally we are not going to do an iraq-style invasion of iraq or syria with battalions that are moving across the desert.
about is that we are going to systematically squeeze and ultimately destroy isil and that requires us having a military component to that, and the 65 country coalition that we put together has been striking isil mers mercilessly and strike back against isis of territory they have taken both in iraq and syria and we are developing partnerships, although they are not as strong as we want yet, with local tribes and sunnis who are willing to fight isil. what i've said is that we are going to continually modify and adjust our strategy, based on those things that work and those things that may not work. and our special forces are the best in the world. they are not going to single-handedly destroy isil, but what they can do is give us greater situational awareness on
intelligence and work with local forces to develop smarter strategies, help direct where air strikes are going to make the most difference. and we are going to continue to on, you know, push hard and the good news is coming out of paris paris, we are seeing countries like germany and great britain that have been hesitant about getting too actively involved in syria, realizing that they have to be part of the solution here. >> we will hear more of norah's interview with the president in our next hour. he talks about the potential isis threat here at home and the fears of a paris-style attack inside the united states. that is ahead on "cbs this morning." a new congressional report calls the secret service an agency in crisis. ahead, new revelations of syria's security breaches, including a person who pretended to be a congressman to get access to the president.
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there is shock and grief this morning in san bernardino, california, after wednesday's deadly massacre. the city east of los angeles is coping with the deadliest mass shooting in the united states since 2012. a married couple opened fire wednesday during a holiday banquet banquet. the san bernardino sun calls the rampage horrific. 14 people are dead and 18 hurt including one police officer. >> police did kill the suspects in the shoot-out. they were a husband and wife team identified as 28-year-old syed farook and 27-year-old tashfeen malik. investigators have been at the couple's house in nearby redlands all night long and trying to gain more information about a motive. norah o'donnell is leading our coverage this morning and she is near the scene of the massacre at the inland regional center in san bernardino. good morning again, norah. >> reporter: good morning to you, charlie and gayle. look.
still some very crucial questions surrounding wednesday's shooting, in particular, the motive of these two suspects. what we do know is that 14 lives end ed tragically and dozens of survivors are dealing with physical and emotional wounds. earlier this morning, i spoke with an emergency room kathleen clemm who oversaw some of the victims of yesterday's shooting at loma linda medical center. good morning, doctor. i know you were there all day yesterday. describe the scene as victims began arriving. >> we got a call a little bit before they arrived and within 15 minutes, we were setup and ready for 50 casualties to arrive. we can do this rapidly here at loma linda. we prepare for this. we get ready and when they roll through the door, we actually had four trauma teams up and ready to take care of the patients. >> how many patients did you receive and how serious were the
>> we received four initially and they were seriously injured. they needed a level one trauma center. >> how does a hospital like yours prepare for something like this? >> we practice for mass casualties and disasters regularly, so we actually set up tents right in our parking lot with different colored markers ready for all of the different patients to come in. we have staff that come from all over the hospital immediately and we are prepared for disasters like this. we set it up and we were ready to go. >> dr. clem, when you get the call there has been a mass shooting in your community, what we now know is the worst mass shooting of 2015. what is your reaction? >> i feel for the members of my community, especially the ones that died and weren't able to come in and receive our help. in the face of tragedy, i think all health care givers focus on being a helper and what we can do to help in a tragedy like this, and i think that is what
the madness inside filled onto the streets. entire neighborhoods were placed on lockdown. for hours, police could not say if the area was safe. the situation is secure now. but many here are still shaken that a place dedicated to developmental disabilities could come under an attack like this. charlie, gayle? >> thanks, norah. many questions, including motive, including whether this was organized and why that location. mary ellen o'toole has 25 years of experience investigating mass shootings, including the columbine massacre. good morning. >> good morning. >> so how is this different through your eyes? because you've seen so much. >> it's different in a number of ways. first of all, we have a female shooter. we have a -- an attack that is
it's really mission-oriented. massive fire power. it was very strategic and it had a very definite escape plan, and there was no suicide at the end or suicide by cop. and those three things to me are the most remarkable because it does suggest to me that after this shooting occurred at that event, these shooters intended to go someplace else because they could not at the end of the day go home and take their 6-month-old baby away from their mother-in-law and call it day. something else was probably going to happen. >> does this in any way suggest terrorism? or we don't know motive but they are not ruling out terrorism. do the events like this say what to you? >> that's right, they do. and i think terrorism certainly has to be a very important consideration here, as the fact
tighten up. it did occur in a venue where the male shooter, you know -- a fellow employees, had colleagues. so there are some who say this was very personal. that may be true, but it also may have made it a softer target for him. i don't believe, based on how strategic the plan was, that he had a fight and then the fight precipitated the attack. that doesn't make any sense at all behaviorally. the fight or the disagreement that people have described, if, in fact, that did occur, could have been staged. but the plan, itself, overall, was extremely strategic, well thought out and that would have taken days, weeks, even months to put together. >> that is exactly what the san bernardino police chief is saying too, mary ellen, it's highly unlikely an argument caused this. they were so well planned they were dressed and has an argument and comes back with his wife.
reserve and polite and living the american dream he and his wife had recently married and had this 6-month-old baby. what do you make of that when you hear about this couple being involved in this? >> but i hear that all the time. if you come across as quiet and normal, people accept you as being nonthreatening but you don't know what happens behind closed doors in someone's homes. those are trappings of normalcy and not could i have of violent or threatening behavior in the fut future. my experience has been the general public does not know how to read for signs of dangerousness and clearly in this case, if these two individuals wanted to carry out the attack that they did, in fact, carry out, they are going to behave in a normal, quiet -- be able to get along type of fashion with other people, because they don't want to have this mission interrupted. so those trappings of normalcy
violence. >> mary ellen o'toole, thank you very much. >> you're very welcome. >> in the next hour, how police tactics and advice are changing to address the growing threat. that's ahead on "cbs this morning." a deadly police shooting in san francisco caught on video is under investigation this morning, and we need to warn you that the video is disturbing. >> oh, my god! >> san francisco's police chief says that man armed with a knife moved towards those officers before they opened fire. they stopped the suspect after a stabbing nearly an hour earlier. the chief says that the officers ordered him to drop the knife. when he did not, they used other nonlethal weapons. but they say that the man kept coming at them, so they had to shoot him. it is time to show you some of this morning's other headlines around the globe. britain's "guardian" says blade
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we have disturbing new revelations this morning about a congressional investigation describes an agency in crisis. it reveals a string of security incidents involving the president. margaret brennan is at the white breaches. >> reporter: good morning. the u.s. secret service is an agency in crisis, hit by budget cutbacks and leadership
accord crime scene surrounding a threaten and bomb outside of these white house grounds. all of this comes in the wake of a series of high profile scandals and incidents that have driven morale at the secret service to an all-time low. gayle, we contacted the secret service this morning, but, so far, they are not commenting on on these new revelations. >> got it, margaret. so many hard working men and women in the secret service department but it shows there is work to be done there. thank you very much. ahead, norah asked president obama about fears of a paris-style isis attack here in america. why he says we are safer than ever. and paul ryan joins us just before his first major speech, as speaker of the house. what he says congress will do about the rise of mass shootings.
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it is thursday, december it is thursday, december 3rd, 2015. welcome back to "cbs this morning." there is more real news ahead, including the san bernardino massacre. noah has the latest from the scene and a look at how police prepare for those attack the. first here is today's "eye opener" at 8:00. this was supposed to be a happy occasion, a holiday banquet. but it suddenly turned into an alternative shooter scene. >> the suspects are dead now. they were killed in a rampage. as for the reason behind the mystery. >> the crime scene still active. throughout the night. in front of the police car is a small vehicle belonging to one of the suspects. you don't know a motive but they're not ruling out terrorism. >> terrorism certainly has to be a very important consideration here as the fact partnerttern
>> the secret service is an agency in crisis according to a new report to be released today. you said no boots on the ground. is this going back on your word? >> when i said no boots on the ground, i think the american people understood generally that we're not going to do an iraq-style invasion of iraq or syria. >> when you hear that this is the worst shooting since sandy hook, what does it make you think? >> these events have shocked communities and caused communities to re-prioritize when they realize that life is precious. i'm charlie rose with norah o'donnell and gayle king. norah is in san bernardino. nothing to explain why a married couple carried out a deadly shooting rampage. 14 people were killed wednesday and another 17 injured. police say the suspects targeted a holiday party at the inland regional center in san bernardino.
police chase and a shootout left the suspects dead. officials say their motive could be a workplace dispute or terrorism. norah o'donnell is at the scene of the massacre in san bernardino and joins us once norah, good morning. >> they are not ruling out terrorism at this hour. we are learning more about the suspects, though. police say syed farook and his wife were married for two years. they lived with farook's mother in this redlands home that was yesterday. the couple left their 6-month-old child with her yesterday morning. at the time of shooting county employees were attending a room. farook attended the event but left angrily. he returned with his wife to the developmentally disabled. both started shooting.
at a triage center outside of the building others were evacuated and officers tried to keep people calm but you can hear the panic in this mother's voice when she described hearing fwr from her daughter. >> she said she was cold. she told me she was shot in her side and that they were -- they were pretending to be dead because these guys are still out there. >> it was agony for many loved ones of the people who worked in the building. they left wondering who was hurt or killed. carter evans has been following this story. carter, what more do we know this morning? >> the first reports of gunfire came in just after 11:00 a.m. after the first 911 call police were on the scene within four minutes. the police chief said the two assailants came prepared as if
rifles wearing masks and had magazine after magazine and prepared for a gun fight. the authorities placed all local lock-down. fleeing the scene. around four hours after the initial shooting there was a police chase of the suspects which ended in a shootout. at least 20 officers were involved in the shooting. that's where the two suspects 28-year-old saeed farook and his wife tashfeen malik were killed. the a.p. has now determined that the guns used in the shootout were purchased legally. >> thank you so much, carter evans. back to charlie and gayle in new york. the san bernardino massacre does not fit the pattern of other recent mass shootings. eugene o'connell is a professor of law and studies at new york's
justice and a former new york police officer. welcome. >> thank you. >> tell us, how do you determine motive? what are the clues that might indicate how this happened and why? >> it's easier today than it used to be because people leave trails, they leave text trails and emails. not
always but often. social media, and then you try to figure out who these network with. tremendous interest of course in the wife having come into the country apparently from saudi arabia. any travels they took. very painstaking. it has to be evidence-based. the likelihood is things that come out now will turn out to be erroneous so they need to stay focused and stay on the facts and stay on the evidence. >> facts are very organized. >> they were able to use these weapons in a scary kind of way and they maximized the taking of life. they didn't say anything. they just shot and slaughtered these poor folks. >> what stands out to you, eugene, about this particular shooting and the way it was
>> it's an outlier as far as mass shootings. a woman involved. >> how unusual is having a woman? >> very unusual. only a small number of shooters have been women. >> are the women normally tied to the men associated with the attack? >> again, stereo types are easy to fall into. as a criminal justice matter, and this may be something beyond criminal justice but it's often a man who leads to the downfall of the woman. the bad actor tends to be the man more than the woman usually. >> what about the fact that they took their daughter to the mother? >> so we're going to have to see again. and we should be prepared to take this wherever it takes it. in the meantime we shouldn't jump to conclusions and shouldn't let this divide up the country. this may be a guy whose life is unraveling and for him this is an honor killing. he is wrapping himself up in maybe some radicalization.
some obvious signs in terms of people at work and elsewhere, the unraveling? >> maybe unraveling but it is kind of well documented that some of the people -- assuming this is some sort of terrorist attack, these people have been able to stay below the surface, they're not known. 9/11 attackers were able to have what appeared to be normal lives and they have a separate personalities. typically you hear people say, we had no notice, no warning whatsoever about this person. >> which is exactly what his brother-in-law said. he talked to him a week ago. co-workers described him as polite and reserved, that people had no idea. what do you think police should be focusing on right now? >> would you say this is a wake-up call? >> yes. we have to get politics out of this. a practical approach that respects people's rights. one of the issues that came up last year, cheap shots at the police about so-called militarization. we see now that the police are
it was a relatively small department, 46-officer department, front and center there. the police s.w.a.t. team played a major role here. no doubt there is some excess with police and militarization but we have to be realistic about the threat environment we're in in this country. british war planes bombing isis targets in syria this morning for the first time. royal air force jets took off from a british base in cyprus to join the american-led campaign. the u.s. and its allies ramped up the military fight against isis since the paris terror attacks that killed 130 people. before norah left for california, she spoke with president obama at the white house. she asked about the threat of isis-related terror attacks here at home. >> the fbi now has active investigations into isis sympathizers in all 50 states. you have had more terrorism-related arrests in one year since september 2001. do you think americans are living in a bit of fear that
>> well, there is no doubt that they are. what i try to do is to make sure that people understand the threat is real. we have to be vigilant. but we also can't panic, and we can't respond out of fear. we have to make sure that we keep a clear-eyed view about what needs to be done. isil will not pose an existential threat to us. they are a dangerous organization like al qaeda was, but we have hardened our defenses, our homeland has never been more protected by more effective intelligence and law enforcement professionals at every level than they are now. the coordination is much better than it is now. if you look at the number of successful terrorist attacks that have occurred, you know, we have disrupted a lot of them. but the dangers are still there. and so we just have to keep
and the american people should feel confident that we're going to be able to defend ourselves and make sure that we have a good holiday season and go about our lives. i said this repeatedly overseas. isil only wins if we react out of fear and start changing how we live, violating our values. they can't win on the battlefield. they can kill some innocent people, but that's not a victory for them if we respond appropriately. >> norah joins us now from san bernardino. norah, having spoke with the president, do you get the sense that he feels an imperative to reassure the american people at this moment? >> you know, charlie, i think that's exactly right. he is playing the role as calmer in chief. so, while he is holding meetings every day with his national
from his homeland security advisor about threats here at home and what happened here in san bernardino yesterday, he is trying to reassure americans to try and go about their daily lives, certainly as we are in the holiday season. but i think, charlie, what happened here just shows how we're on edge. authorities are not ruling out terrorism. there is no indication at this point, but they're not ruling it out. we don't know. what we do know is that the two suspects here -- this is highly unusual, a husband and wife team who were heavily armed, who wore masks. that it appeared premeditated even though there was sort of an argument at this holiday banquet that turned into this massive shooting, the worst in 2015, the worst since newtown. you do have a sense -- that's why i asked the president the question yesterday. i myself have felt it traveling. a sense of fear and a sense of looking around, am i safe where i am. i think the president there, as you saw, was trying to play the role of calming people that you
from your daily lives. >> that's a very good summary of this morning and a sense of where we are. so many questions and fewer answers. tomorrow we'll have more of norah's conversation with president obama as he discusses climate change and this week's paris summit. that's tomorrow on "cbs this morning." first responders in san bernardino were ready when the worst happened. see how police tactics are evolving to address the good morning. temps are starting out cool but dress in layers as widespread sunshine will quickly warm highs to near 44. highs tomorrow and through the weekend will be either side of 50 with quiet weather continuing into the middle part of next week along with unseasonably warm
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16% of those shootings ended before officers arrived. kris van cleave in washington shows us how police prepare for these attacks. >> reporter: since the columbine shootings in 1999 where 13 people were killed in that high school, police have been re-evaluateing active shooter procedures. they tell us for the rest of us, the best things we can do is get out, hide, or sometimes take action. this as active shooter drills are becoming a lot more common. inland regional center nurse who took this video on wednesday thought they were part of a drill. she told the l.a. times they practice active shooter situations every month or so. the frequency of active shooter incidents in the u.s. is rising. police are adjusting their tactics. >> first responding patrol officers are expected to go in to try to find that threat and
>> reporter: ron hosco is a former assistant director of the fbi. >> they are not waiting for a s.w.a.t. team that may be 15 minutes or an hour behind. >> reporter: less than two weeks ago, the new york city police department held a three-hour active shooter drill in the city's subway system. >> these exercises are necessary, particularly in light of what is going on in the world at this point in time. >> everybody stay calm. it's probably just a drill. angeles county sheriff's deputy posted a video online on how to deal with a shooting of this kind p.m. >> lock or barricade the doors. >> always spread out. don't huddle together. that creates one easy target. >> reporter: according to the department of homeland security, active shooter incidents typically last between ten and 15 minutes. washington, d.c. police chief kathy lanier spoke with anderson cooper during a "60 minutes" last month. >> i say if you can get out, that is your best and first option.
the gunman down and out, it's the best option for saving lives before police can get there and that is kind of counterintuitive to what cops tell people. we tell people don't take action, call 911, don't intervene in the robbery, you know? we have never told me take action. this is a different scenario. >> you're telling them that now, though? >> we are. >> reporter: police also say be aware of your surroundings and come up with at least two exit plans to get out of the building gayle? >> we have a new set of rules. charlie, now that we have the phrase active shooter is now part of our vocabulary. a different day. cleave. a morning of grieving we
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that is after your local news. good morning and welcome back, it's now 8:25! michael wanchanic will make his first court appearance this morning in des moines. he's charged with two counts of first degree murder. on monday, police say 36-year-old bryon howard and 31-year-old heather belieu were killed in their home on center street. the criminal complaint alleges wanchanic took the gun from his stepmother's room -- then shot howard and belieu multiple times while they were asleep in bed. their 5-week-old baby was asleep in heather's arm when she was killed. several negotiators helped to end a standoff with wanchanic tuesday night. his van broke down after a short chase on highway 141 near woodward, west of des moines. officials say even though he had a gun, that was not a big threat... and they say there was time to talk instead of shoot.
we are all thinking about the current and ongoing tragedy in california today. and i would like to have a brief moment of silence now for those who are affected. >> house speaker paul ryan honoring the victims in san bernardino. he spoke at last night's light of the capitol christmas tree in washington. welcome back to "cbs this morning." norah o'donnell is leading our coverage from san bernardino this morning. in just a few hours,
and let's you and i start off and do something about this right now? i'm speaker of the house, you're president, you're in your fourth quarter and i'm in the beginning of my job as speaker. >> first, charlie, this is just a horrible event. my stomach turns like any american when they see this kind of violence and you can't help but watch this on tv and yell at the tv and say, what can we do to prevent this from happening? obviously, we are thinking of those things. this particular shooting in san bernardino, there's you some too much unknowns before we speculate about the origin of this one. but what we have seen in a common theme among many of these mass shootings is the theme of mental illness. and we need to fix our mental illness laws, our policies. they are outdated. and that is something that we are working on right now. we are moving a bill through the process here, the murphy legislation, because we think that is one of the more consistent and common themes is people with mental illness are getting guns and conducting
now, without knowing the facts in san bernardino, we also know that there are home-grown jihadists and we also know there are isis inspirational events and we need to figure out how to handle that as well. to there are multiple things that need to be addressed and we are working on those that need to be addressed, including whether somebody is coming here or inspiring someone to do these things, because of their audiological or religious events or the common theme we know -- >> i suspect a lot of people would agree with you and most would agree on that. here is what the president said and why i suggested there might be a conversation between you and the president. he said we have a no-fly list where people can't get on planes, but these seem people, whom we do not allow to fly, could get into a store right now in the united states and buy a firearm. and there is nothing we can do to stop them. >> well, on this particular
citizens have a due process rights and anyone can just be arbitrarily placed on the no-fly list. in fact, that's happened quite a bit. people have been placed on the no-fly list mistakenly and innocently. so we need to respect due process. when we rush to act tho on these things let's make sure we act accordingly and according to citizens rights and to the constitution. oh, let's make sure what we do actually solves these problems. so that is why i think when you take a pause and see what is happening and why we are working on mental health already. with respect to the no-fly list, it's important to remember people have due process rights in this country and we can't have some government official put them arbitrarily on a list. if someone is suspected of terrorism in this country and someone in this country we think is planning a terrorist attack, we should arrest them.% this is something that should be dealt with by law enforcement in a more pronounced position than maybe, you know, banning due
if we think somebody is committing terrorism we should pick them up. >> i hear, you mr. speaker. many stopped me and said we know how this story is going to go. we will hear the stories of the heroes who survived and the stories about the victims and the stories about the shooters. >> and nothing gets done, right. >> ultimately, that's right. nothing changes. surely there can be something that can stop people from getting an ak-47. in this particular case in san bernardino, it's being reported that two of the weapons recovered were bought legally in this country. what does it take to move the needle in congress is the frustration we have. >> what we are trying to do is find out the facts and make sure what our response is actually addresses the problems without -- without infringing upon the rights of law abideing citizens. that is the -- >> but it keeps happening. >> we have citizens who have rights to be protected. again, gayle, one of the common themes here, this is is why we are really serious about our mental health legislation
are getting guns who are mentally unstable who should not be getting guns and this is a gap in our laws that we feel needs to be filled. look. if you're not outraged when you turn on the tv and see these shootings there is something wrong with you. we want to get it right, gayle. we want to make sure we don't violate a person's rights if they are a law abiding citizen. >> can i just say this to you? a mass shooting is described as four or more victims. according to shooting tracker.com just the fact we have a shooting tracker.com speaks volumes. since january 354 mass shootings in this country. you must be frustrated as well. >> i am, gayle. that's why -- again, i don't want to keep saying the same thing over and over. >> yeah, but. >> but one of the things we have noticed there are mental health issues here and we haven't fixed these laws in years and they are discombobulated and don't make sense. people who are getting guns and diagnosed with mental illnesses are slipping through the cracks and slipping through our system and we need to patch that and
sure that -- that criminals, people that should not get guns don't get guns we need to keep enforcing the laws and there are no gaps in that enforce want. >> mr. speaker, what is required to make sure people will not be saying a month from now we are facing the same situation? >> well, we are receiving some resistance from our mental health bill right now as we speak. >> you talk to the president about the mental health bill and the president will talk to you about his own concerns about who is allowed to get what kind of guns. >> right. by the way, that is part of the mental health bill. that is part of the discussion surrounding the mental health bill which is who gets guns and who should get guns. we have to make sure in our rush to do something, we don't violate a person's individual rights in this country. >> but due process rights -- >> executive division of the government are equally concerned about violating people's rights? >> well, some proposals here do violate people's rights. the no-fly list is a perfect example.
to violate a person's rights process? you have to think these things reactions is my point. >> what about the people who aren't mentally ill and committing these crimes? >> are they people who got guns illegally or barred from the law of getting a gun and got it any way? therefore we have a gap enforcing our laws. is it a law alliedbideingeing citizen who something like that? you're ner going to have in a free society the ability to prevent anything, to prevent everything you want to prevent. >> the president said that. >> a free society, in a free society you're going to have problems. the question is in a free society, while protecting our individual rights, are there gaps in laws, are there gaps in enforcement of laws that need to be filled? that is what we are looking at right now. >> you're going to speak to the congress this afternoon around around 12:30 or 1:00, i assume. where do you put this as a priority for you and the congress? >> so here is my concern about everything. i don't think the country is
charlie and gayle. i really believe we are on the wrong track. i really believe we are -- we are at risk of severing this legacy of leaving the next generation better off in this country. we would be the first generation to do that and we are on track of doing that. i feel that we here in congress, if we don't like the direction the country is headed on any number of issues, we can't be an opposition party yelling no. we have to be a proposition party and we have to show people what our ideas are so we need to be big, we need to be bold, we need to be specific, and in 2016 we have an obligation to give the people of this country a choice so they can choose is what direction the country goes. that is what i'm going to lay out today, which is we are an opposition party, yes, but here is how we become a proposition party and, more importantly, here is how we give the choice to the people of this country so that they get to decide the direction the nation is going and a whole range of issues, poverty, economic roles, upward mobility, you have affordable health care. we have to say to the country,
if you agree with us and you choose us to lead, then we will do this. we need a mandate and we need to offer people a choice and that is the kind of vision i'm going to lay out this afternoon. >> when will you talk to the president? >> i talk to the president fairly regularly, actually. i don't know. i call him sometimes and he calls me sometimes so i don't have something marked on my calendar. >> thank you, speaker ryan. >> we talk fairly often. >> thank you very much, speaker ryan for your time today. we do appreciate it. good morning. temps are starting out cool but dress in layers as widespread sunshine will quickly warm highs to near 44. highs tomorrow and through the weekend will be either side of 50 with quiet weather continuing into the middle part of next week along with unseasonably warm
we continue our high school honor roll series this morning, celebrating super bowl 50. former offensive lineman daryn colledge helped aaron rodgers lead the packers to a title in 2011 and bringing home the vince lombardi trophy. colledge colledge recently carried a golden football to his hometown. james brown, host of nfl today on cbs takes us to north pole high school in alaska. >> i'm glad to be home. it's just been so long since i've been here, with football, 15 years since we have been out hunting and flying and now to get out and see the world again. >> as i said when i was growing up here, i said if you want to see alaska get in the air a bit and you can find it. when you live in a state as vast as this, we travel by river and we travel by plane.
than any anybody in the lower 48. the size of connecticut is a different situation here in other towns. we get in a plane and hop 15 minutes and we could be in the mountains and we can see anything. a moose right there? >> oh, yeah. there he is. >> plenty of time to go hunting! >> i grew up living in the wilderness and i hunt and i fish. >> reporter: he may have grow up a typically alaska but his hometown of north powell is not exactly average. >> we in north pole embrace the christmas spirit. >> we are the home of santa claus. we have the candy cane light poles. >> we love it. it's a year-round thing for us. >> reporter: so how did a kid from here get to here? >> the green bay packers are world champions of football! >> i didn't probably officially start playing football until my senior year in high school.
cheerleader and said, i'll play football, why not? >> reporter: that led to boise state discovering him on another reel and his unlikely football career began. >> intercepted by daryn colledge! >> i was gifted. i got an opportunity and seized that opportunity. i think i've been doing that the last ninees of my football career too. >> this is our moment! we work too hard to be stopped! >> bringing a golden football back is awesome to a community that built and start its life around gold is probably more symbolic for us than it is a lot of other towns. most people when you tell them you're from alaska they don't believe you. alaska, this vast place they still think is connected to russia and might be down by hawaii if you look on a map. >> reporter: there was no confusion where bwho he is and where he came from when he returned to his high school. >> it's like to bring out north
champion mr. daryn colledge. >> these footballs will be reminded of the 50th anniversary but it's a connection back to you guys. it seems it's something i did but i couldn't do it without the teachers and coaches standing by me and the students i went to school with in this community. this football is for you. if i made one more step easier for these kids to leave our here and a chance to get a college education and play football on a bigger stage, then i've done as much as i can and that is most important to me. football is great but the chance for these kids to get out of alaska and come back here and make alaska better, that is most important. >> 1-2-3! >> yea! >> everybody can give money but sometimes it's nice to put something in the trophy case that everybody can walk by and
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we want to bring in norah one more time from the scene of the san bernardino massacre. norah, it's time for us just to talk about this. everybody, i think, is frustrated. everybody is asking why and everybody is asking what can we do, but we have to do something. as the new york "daily news" said, god is not going to fix it. we have to fix it. >> i think you're right.
as the sun is coming up here in san bernardino, there are a lot of questions why. why target fellow employees at a holiday banquet on a wednesday around lunch time? just who is mr. farook and his wife? did they act alone? was this terrorism-related? and then just this note. this is the 17th time since 2009 that president obama has addressed on camera a mass shooting in america. today, san bernardino joins a very sad list of other places that have had to deal with this, whether it was newtown, aurora, chattanooga, charleston, ft. hood.
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of next year. michael wanchanic is due in court in a couple of minutes - he's facing charges that he shot and killed two people as they slept. 36- year-old bryon howard and 31- year-old heather belieu were found dead in their center street home on monday. police have not revealed a motive. des moines police will continue to investigate a deadly weekend shooting on court avenue downtown. 21-year-old edmanuel perez was killed at 3rd and court. another man was injured. police have not released any information on possibly
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