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i'm chris wallace. donald trump reaches out to black voters as polls suggest hillary clinton's lead is narrowing. >> i fully understand that the african-american community has suffered from disim and that there are many wrongs that must still be made right. >> today, a debate between dr. ben carson a trump adviser and congressman gregory meeks, a top clinton adviser on who has better ideas to help minorities. then, the other woman on the presidential ballot. >> jill stein! >> dr. jill stein on her
plus clinton faces new scrutiny over her responses to the fbi as a race against trump begins to tighten. we'll ask our sunday panel how the new revelations will play with voters, all right now on "fox news sunday." and hello, again, from fox news in washington. hermine, the once and apparently future hurricane has already claimed the lives of two people. it's moving slowly up the eastern seaboard leaving hundreds of thousands of people without electricity and it's set to do even more damage. fox news meteorologist maria molina is live in atlantic city, new jersey, with the latest. maria? >> hi, chris. that's right. i'm here in atlantic city, new jersey, where the worst of the storm is forecast for late tonight and also into tomorrow. hermine is still well off shore, but as you can see behind me the water is already turning.
currents, dangerous surf and also beach erosion. because this is a slow mover we'll be feeling the impact for several years. not just here in atlantic city, but also across areas further off to the south, across maryland, delaware, and also extending north across portions of new england. tropical storm warnings and watches have been issue and a turn to the north has not yet happened but it's forecast to happen later on today and testimony -- and it will slow the closer it tracks to the coast the more we'll feel the tropical storm force winds across coastal communities. another threat is coastal flooding especially during high tide. chris? >> thank you for that. now, to politics. donald trump is continuing his effort to reach out the minority voters. visiting a black church in detroit this weekend and laying out what he calls a new civil rights agenda. in a moment we'll talk with dr.
detroit and congressman gregory meeks a clinton supporter about who has the better plan to help minorities. but first, fox news correspondent peter doocy with more. peter? >> reporter: chris, to get to the inner city church the first african-american church he had ever visit, the motorcade had to pass through a rough part of detroit and he told the congregation he can mak a city the whole world envies again. >> we need a civil rights agenda for our time. the right to live in safety and in peace and to have a really, really great job, a good paying job and one that you love to go to every morning. that can happen. >> reporter: trump's speech that he said was handwritten was very well received by the several hundred people who heard it and wasn't just optimistic and
>> for centuries the african-american church has been the conscience of our country. so true. it's from the pews and pulpits and christian teachings of black churches all across this land than the civil rights movement lifted up its soul and lifted up the soul of our nation. >> reporter: ben carson took trump on a tour of his old neighborhood and they met with residents including the woman who lives in carson's old house and it fit with the pledge that trump made yesterday -- to listen and to learn from the people he met here. chris? >> peter doocy reporting from detroit, peter, thanks for that. we want to turn now to dr. ben carson who was a top trump adviser and took the nominee to his hometown of detroit. dr. carson, trump has been on
months. this was his first trip to an inner city -- for a public event with african-americans. first, what took him so long and second, what do you think his trip accomplished? >> well, first of all, i recognize that traditionally the republican party has not made an extensive outreach to southern communities include -- to certain communities including the african-american community because they have pretty much written that off as territory. donald trump is changing that narrative. and is really starting to talk about this in a very serious way. and i have had many discussions can him about it. he becomes animated during the discussions and this is a subject about which he cares deeply and what is going to be accomplished is something that many in the democratic party fear. and this is an alternative.
are not kept, and look at the situation that's going on in our inner cities with the school systems. you look at the incarceration rates that are going on. the broken homes, out of wedlock births. the economic situation. this not good. of course it doesn't apply to all blacks. you know, but we have a substantial number of blacks living in our inner cities and if our inner cities are weak and are not prospering, how can the entire nation prosper? and that is really the goal. >> but dr. carson. trump laid out what he called a civil rights agenda for our time, education, safe streets, good jobs. i want to talk about the first of those. he calls for school choice, but we looked in all of his speeches during this campaign, we looked on his campaign website and nowhere does he explain what what means by school choice. how it would work and how he would pay for it. >> well, it is assumed that people know that school choice means you get a choice of your
to a school because of where you live and if that school happens to be dysfunctional you just suffer the consequences. that is something that we want to change. we want to give people choice by a voucher system. it's very interesting that many people in the political arena are against vouchers and school choice and yet, own children to very prestigious, private schools. we are fully recognizing if you give a person a choice, they basically will be able to write their own ticket. this should be a high priority for us and it was for those who founded this country and they talk about the need for a educated and well informed society particularly franklin
abolishing the department of education which gives out $1.4 billion in what's called title i funds for schools dealing with impoverished students. here's what hillary clinton had to say about trump and his outreach to african-americans. >> it really does take a lot of nerve to ask people he's ignored and mistreated for decades what do you have to lose? because the answer is everything. >> dr. carson, how do you respond to >> i would simply respond by saying it's really the democratic party that has the explaining to do. they have been in charge of our cities for a long time. the city i grew up in, detroit, was once the most prosperous city in the united states. some people say in the world. from there, it went to the largest bankruptcy. that was not a coincidence. and we see that in our large cities across the nation under democratic control. that is a problem.
donald trump is saying why would you continue down that same pathway? the definition of insanity is doing the same thing, expecting a different result. the result will not be different. now, he's talking about some real clear things. we have had in depth discussions about the $2.1 trillion that are overseas and the stipulation that 10% enterprise zones and to create jobs for people who are unemployed, underemployed or on welfare. you want to talk about a stimulus, that would be the biggest stimulus since fdr's new deal and it wouldn't cost the taxpayers one penny. it gets corporate america once again involved in their communities which they used to be before the government took over and made a mess of it. >> dr. carson, trump has a hispanic advisory council. but after his hard-line speech on immigration this week, several members of that council
>> it was not a republican speech. it was not a compassionate speech. i was very disappointed and i'm not going to be part of that. >> a question -- >> do you know what i would say? >> do you know do you -- do you worry that you're being used as a prop and the support of donald trump will hurt your standing in the community? >> it's not a our nation. i would suggest, chris, go back and look at the 1995 state of the union address by bill clinton. and see what he said. he said, illegal aliens are creating big problems for us and we're going to put a lot more border patrol people on and secure our border and we're not going to have people able to work who come in illegally. we're going to cut off their welfare benefits and we're going to deport people in record numbers. you know, he says basically the
wow, great, standing ovation, this a great president. but when trump says it it's hate speech. what hypocrisy. >> i have about a minute left and i have to ask you one final question and that is about the fact that the fbi released its files this week into the investigation of hillary clinton and her use of the private e-mail system. her -- your reaction to the facts that were released? >> it's she claims not to remember things. do you want somebody with an inability to remember in the white house? or do you want somebody who is a prevaricator in the white house, where you get a choice? or do you want to maybe go in a completely different direction altogether? you know, everything is a coincidence. i know it looks bad, but you know, it's not really that way. we're really very honest people. we don't use our office to enrich ourselves. i know it looks that way and
direction. but believe us, we're wonderful people. i think at some point people begin to see through that. >> dr. carson, we have to leave it there and thanks for your time on this holiday weekend, sir. >> thank you. joining me now, congressman gregory meeks of new york, chairman of the congressional black caucus. welcome to "fox news sunday." >> >> do you give trump any credit at all for going into the inner city and meeting with african-americans? >> no, because it's not real. and donald trump has a career. here in new york where he's never -- this is his first time visiting a black church. and so here again, you have what i think is a bait and switch scenario that donald trump is trying to put on and to, you know, in the words of marco
and con african-americans. it is clearly his record speaks for itself. >> you say he's trying to con them. do you think he's racist? >> well, i'd just say some of the things as indicated by the speaker, by senator scott, not by me, some of the things that donald trump has said clearly are racist. they have indicated it. that, you know, there were remarks that were racist in character. so i can only go by says and what one has done and clearly if you look at donald trump's record from the time that he started out with his father with the lawsuits until the very first statements and to not acknowledging david duke immediately, to there goes my african-american, those are all statements. what do you have to lose? those are all statements that i
that he has racist tendencies. at least those are what his believes are if you believe what he says. >> doesn't he have a point that things are not getting better in america's inner cities? i want to put up some numbers. 26.2% of blacks live below the poverty line. 25.5% of food stamp recipients are blacks and black home ownership all of those are worse since president obama took office. >> where we are now is much better than when president obama was -- you know, took office in 2008. >> but those aren't better, those are worse. >> well, we're coming from the greatest recession since the great depression and a lot of people lost their homes and the wealth in the african-american community and we have to build back. that's why it's important that we have if kinds of policies that are being talked about by hillary clinton that would help
disparity. we have to make sure that we are raising minimum wage and focused on small businesses, which is important. that's also where we have to make sure we're protecting historically black colleges and ininvestigating in historically black colleges and the key to tomorrow in america is a better education or trade. these are all subject matters that hillary clinton has been talking about. very different republican ideas about school choice, about enterprise zones and do you hear anything in those republican ideas that you think maybe that's an interesting alternative? >> well no. if you go to washington for example, there's an idea that
called the 10-20-30 plan to help eradicate poverty in america and i think it's been embraced -- i know it's been embraced by senator clinton. but also by speaker ryan. as some kind of dialogue that we can begin to have and to talk about. we have to reduce the disparities that we have, because for sure the disparities are great within the african-american community. but you've got to reduce poverty. when we talk about issues of poverty, for example, those who represented appalachia for years, we don't say they're responsible for the poverty that are there. we have to have a deep conversation and i think the conversation could be had on bipartisan basis, dealing with specific policies. >> during the democratic primaries, bernie sanders went after clinton in several cases from the left.
welfare reform plan that she supported and her husband signed into law in 1996 resulted in more than the doubling of the number of americans living in extreme poverty. he noted that the crime bill that she supported and president clinton signed in 1994 dramatically increased the number of blacks going into prison and the amount of time that they spent there. isn't that part of the clinton record? >> you know, i think that if put into perspective what was taking place at that time and when you look at the crack epidemic that was going on, many of that -- much of that that took place at that time is taken out of context when we talk today. if you recall at that time, the income disparity between african-americans and others was shrinking. you talk about unemployment was the lowest it had been.
were happening in the african-american community that some was calling bill clinton at the time the first african-american president. you don't speak of it now, but when you think of small businesses in which hillary clinton is focused on, in the inner cities, creating businesses for those in the african-american communities, utilizing minority businesses that was all positive and something that hillary clinton talks about today. >> finally, again, i have about a minute left for this. i want to ask you to respond what dr. carson said about the release of the fbi files into the -- and to the e-mails. more than two dozen times in that interview with the fbi, hillary clinton said she could not recall, could not remember key events. it turns out she didn't have one blackberry as she told the press, it turns out she had 15. your response? >> my response is that it's clear. hillary clinton has gone through
director say that there's nothing that she did that was criminal. >> he didn't say it was criminal. but he said it was negligent and extremely careless. >> that the secretary of state, if she had a chance to do it again she wouldn't do it. she's been apologetic about it. there's no smoking gun. you heard my colleague on the republican side, mccarthy said this all from the beginning. when they talked about benghazi was to because when you talk about policy issues and taking the country forward, you didn't divert. there's no smoke and no fire. >> congressman meeks, thank you. we'll look forward to talking to you again. >> thank you. we'll discuss trump's trip to detroit, reaching out to black voters. plus, what would you like to ask the panel about the trump's inner city events? will his pitch resonate? go to twitter or facebook and we may use your question on the air.
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african-american church in inner city detroit yesterday and it's time now for our sunday group. fox news senior political analyst brit hume, the president of the liberal think tank. and ann gearrin, of "the washington post" and george will. brit, welcome back. what do you think of trump's visit to detroit and what do you think of his outline in broad strokes of an agenda for civil rights? >> well, i think it was probably worth a try. but i sense that he will probably g white voters for making the effort than from voters in the inner city whose resistance to appeals from republicans going back decades has been remarkably strong. so i doubt he'll make, you know, any inroads of any consequence in that particular segment of the electorate. but nonetheless, you had people looking to find way that they could possibly support him. we'll see the soft-spoken version of donald trump making what i think are some, you know,
least proposals and that might do him some good, but probably not within that community. >> if trump weren't talking about these issues you'd criticize him. are you going to criticize him for talking about these issues? >> i think the fact that he's at 0% of support amongst some swing states of african-americans is heretofore well deserved of his policies. i think the fact that you pointed out that these policies are not on hi history. i think the reality is most african-americans have come to know him from his attacks on the first african-american president, with his birtherism and his history. "the new york times" has a long, detailed story last week about trump industries and a history of housing discrimination that goes back 30 years. so i think there's a long record here and two months before the
discussions with black churches, this makes up something where he's far behind mccain's and romney's numbers of african-americans. >> two months before the election we're 19 days before the voting starts in some states and mr. trump is saying essentially never mind what i have said so far, i'm going to change. he's campaigned for 400 after announcing his candidacy and then said i've got some regrets. he didn't say what they were, but he said i have some regrets. he goes to the black church, reiterates standard republican -- the school choice and all the rest, but people are supposed to forget he's a birther, at least he was. five years ago, he sent out investigators to hawaii to investigate the president's birth and people will be amazed by what they found.
he goes to mexico and says, people i have described of rapists are now exemplary americans and then he goes to phoenix and he chooses to be introduced by joe arpaio, the very face of hostility to immigrants. i don't think it will work. obviously, the hispanic vote like all african-americans are quite monolithic, but still what should worry republicans most of all is in even worse among asian americans than he did with hispanics which indicate that minorities generally do not feel welcomed into the republican party. >> brit, are you as resistant to his outreach to minority voters? >> there's a contrast between the soft-spoken man speaking in the church yesterday and the bombastic trump of days before -- you know, before, when we heard so much of.
impression that african-american voters and other minorities may have of him is sitting in cement. which is all the things that he cites are part of the reason why i think he'll have trouble rallying what support if any in the community. and he stands in some states at zero. >> yeah, that's bad. all right. let's turn to the issue of hispanics because trump also tried to make an outreach this week to the a couple of weeks of softening his position on mass deportations then. he went to mexico city and met and had a respectful press conference with president pena nieto. but later in phoenix he said that. >> day one, my first hour in office those people are gone. you can call it deported if you want.
term. you can call it whatever the hell you want. they're gone. >> trump was talking there specifically about illegal immigrants who commit further crimes. not just coming across the border illegally, but further crimes once they get in. but despite that specific point for all of this back and forth over the last two weeks, was he going to soften, harden, did it do him any good with hisni >> probably not a great deal. you see the dueling efforts of kellyanne conway and other trump advisers who are pulling him in opposite directions on what he should be doing to at least give a credible sense of outreach and openness to hispanic voters. she's a pollster, a demographer. she says the ultimate imperative of him having to have an
for others to have an outreach to hispanic voters after this election, whatever happens to it. she's doing -- making some effort to have him make that outreach. what you're left with here, you can pick which trump you like from five hours apart. they were different people. saying different things. and hispanic voters are going to look at both of those images and certainly more likely see that what he said in phoenix as the real donald >> but i want to pick up on this with you, george. let me begin first of all with this question. because we asked you for questions for the panel and we got this on twitter from ron who tweets, voters have their minds made up, especially the african-american voters. george, how do you answer ron, and also about what this point you heard from ben carson, that you hear from donald trump, look, you have had decades of
america's inner cities. they control -- they're the bosses in most of the elected cities and things have not gotten better in a lot of places and they have gotten worse. >> it's true what ben carson says. the alliance of the democratic employee and particularly the teachers unions standing for school choice has not served the african-american community well. the african-american community in the cities. that said, there seems -- there's no reason to believe that the standard republican appeal school choice, welfare reform, all the rest, that jack kemp brought, he was the running mate of bob dole has no effect and i don't see it having an effect this time around. >> we'll take a break. we'll see you later. up next, jill stein on appealing to voters who were unhappy with the choice of trump or clinton. plus what do you think?
platform in this campaign. we'll put it up on the screen. you called for medicare for all. a guaranteed federal job for anyone who wants one. free college tuition. canceling all student loan debt. cutting military spending by 50% and ending all wars and all drone attacks. dr. stein, how much will that cost and how are you going to pay for it? >> so letme call for ending all wars. but we call for ending these catastrophic regime change wars that have cost us $6 trillion by the time we've paid for the health care of our wounded veterans. that's according to a recent harvard study and remember this is half -- more than half of our discretionary budget. so that's part of how we pay for things. another way we pay for things, in fact, we call for a green new deal, emergency jobs program to fix the emergency of climate change and the great thing,
for itself and i can say this as a medical doctor it turns out we get so much healthier by eliminating fossil fuel pollution. 300,000 every year and it's enough to pay for the green energy transition. >> now, the washington -- "the washington post" -- just pick up. "the washington post" is a liberal newspaper. after interviewing you, this is an editorial that they wrote. the headline, jill stein's fairy tale kabdz dasy and -- candidacy. they said her policy ideas are poorly formed and wildly impractical. dr. stein, that's not good. >> well, i think they called me actually a fairy tale campaign to which i would answer, in fact, we are living with a couple of nightmare campaigns
unprecedented levels. the american people are saying that politics as usual has been throwing them under the bus and in fact, the two major party candidates have the highest ratings of disapproval and distrust of any candidate anywhere at any time throughout our history. so what i'm saying is what the american people are calling for. 76% of americans are saying, we need to open up the there are actually four candidates on the ballot for just about every american and in america we not only have a right to vote, but we have a right to know who we can vote for. donald trump actually has received more than $4 billion in free media and hillary clinton over $2 billion. i have received almost none. and yet, still i'm coming up 4 or 5% in the polls with zero media which tells you there's word of mouth going on out there
people is locked in to debt. and referring to your question about how do we pay for it, somehow we came up with the money it turned out to be about $16 trillion to bail out the crooks on wall street who crashed the economy. isn't it time that we bail out an entire generation that's basically been locked in debt, doesn't have the jobs to earn their way out of that college debt. what is than liberating a generation who can lead the way forward, not only on our economy, but in all of the social issues that we have in front of us. it's always been -- >> let me pick up on another aspect of your plan. that's the foreign policy aspect. you called for cutting pentagon spending in half. you would like to eliminate although you have a caveat there you may not be able to, all military bases. u.s. military bases around the world. a question, how would you fight
>> very good point. we would not continue to do the same thing that has failed catastrophically since 9/11, since the trade towers came down. because what have we done with that $6 trillion, mind you, to just iraq and afghanistan alone, which by the way, cost every american household $50,000 for those two wars alone. what have we done with this policy of regime change, this war we have mass refugee -- i'll tell you one second. mass refugee migrations and terrorist threats. it is not getting better. every terrorist cause we have been fighting has only been increased and gotten stronger by dropping bombs and shooting them up with bullets. we needs a weapons embargo to the middle east since we're supplying a majority of weapons which get out to all sides. we called for a weapons embargo
hillary clinton identified the saudis as still the major funder of -- >> what are you going to do about isis and the people in iraq and serious who have developed plans, they have struck in the united states. they've struck in france. they've struck in belgium and a number of other places. how are you going to protect us from them? >> one thing we have to keep doing is not to keep doing what we're doing. we have chaos of iraq. so let's not keep doing a -- >> i understand what you're saying what we shouldn't do. what should we do? >> yes, what we should do is deprive them of weapon, deprive them of funding, freeze the bank accounts of our allies that continue to fund the terrorists of the enterprises and close the border from turkey. so that the militias cannot cross over into iraq and into
funding it, by arming it. we and our allies. remember this goes back to afghanistan where we created this in order to fight the russians and the soviet union by beefing up the mujahideen and creating this terrorist -- >> i think -- we have to move on. >> the madrases a -- >> let me simply say i think a lot of people will question whether we were responsible for al qaeda and we were responsible for isis. but let me move on because you talked about the >> this is why it should be debated, chris. >> well, that's why we're having you on the show, dr. stein. >> the american people are not happy with the way it's going right now. well, i think -- >> let me ask you if i may about hillary clinton. because you talk about her as a nightmare candidacy. you've said some tough things about her. you said she's had a horrific career. your words. you say she's too big to jail. what's wrong with hillary clinton? >> well, what i said about
cannot be the good guy in the white hat while donald trump is the bad guy in the black hat. donald trump says despicable things, but hillary clinton unfortunately has a record for doing many terrible things. donald trump talks about deporting muslims. unfortunately, hillary clinton has been bombing muslims. a million people killed in iraq alone and we have only created a the republicans are the party of hate and fear mongering. but the democrats are the party of deportation, detention and night raids for immigrants who in many cases have been forced to flee into this country as refugees from nafta, which hillary clinton and bill gave
and the deregulation that led to the disappearance of 9 million jobs in our country. it goes back to the policy of the clintons as much as the republicans. >> we have to leave it there. you can't say that you have had zero media exposure anymore because you've been here. thanks so much. >> and i appreciate it. i look forward to getting into the debates so the american people can hear the full story. >> thank you. when we come back, the fbi releases files investigation and interview of hillary clinton. we'll bring back our sunday group to discuss what she told them and the impact it will have
panel. so brit, in her fbi interview by one count clinton said 27 times that she did not recall or could not remember key events and details. as for the e-mails about drone attacks and cia assets she said that she relied on her staff and if they sent her something she assumed it was not classified. do you find those explanations were failure to recall persuasive? >> of course not. i don't think many normal people would. and it simply furthers this impression people have that this is an extraordinarily exceptionally secretive and dishonest person now running for the highest office in the land. under normal circumstances such things as the mishandling of classified information would be utterly disqualifying. in this particular year under the circumstances, given the nature of the opposing candidate, he's ahead. whether over time this stuff and
will weigh her down to the point that people just might find it in their hearts to vote for the alternative is the question. but based on the polling we have seen so far, it doesn't look like it will be enough. but it's something to watch out for. >> we should point out, you're close to the clinton campaign. you have been an adviser to her over the years. we all know hillary clinton is whip smart, so how do you explain her vagueness on all of these events and even saying that she didn't really understand how the classification system worked? understand how the classification system worked. i mean, what's good about this, everyone can read the documents, i've read them. >> she said she didn't understand the various levels of the classification and the "c" marking she didn't understand that at all. >> she said she took them all seriously. so she didn't differentiate in
server. >> i think the issue of the e-mails -- i recommend people read this. there's 27 or so e-mails that she's asked to remember out of 60,000. she couldn't recall each one of those e-mails but you -- >> no no no. that's not true. no, she's asked do you remember when you were told how the classification system worked and she said she didn't remember that specific briefing. >> right. out >> there's not an e-mail, but a briefing. >> let's be clear, i want to be crystal clear. many of them are e-mails. >> there's different. >> that's what i'm saying. i want to be crystal clear about that. so i think the important thing is to step back. we have had this massive investigation into this effort. you see from this why the fbi did not move forward with any other action on this. i think she's recognized that this was a mistake to set up the server. >> okay. >> she said that -- >> i'm going to pick up on
>> i want to pick up on one other aspect of this. >> i'm sure. let me say we have not -- we have had a full discussion of this. but we just learned this week that donald trump is engaged in -- was engaged in pay to play with the attorney general of -- >> can we stick to this subject? >> i'm happy to. >> all right. i'm going -- >> would love to get some coverage of that -- >> there's gotten in march of 2015 at her news conference, here is how she claimed using the private e-mail server. >> i opted for convenience to use my private e-mail account which was allowed by the state department, because i thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for my personal e-mails instead of two. >> the fbi says she didn't use
15 blackberries and if again if i may finish the question and the fbi was unable to recover 13 of those 15. >> this is a great point. they were always one blackberry at a time. she didn't use 15 at a time. i know it's ridiculous. i have gone through my fair number of black berries, but it's not that she had 15 blackberries at a time. this is an important part of reading through the investigation. you will see that's the reality. >> george, what do you make of the fbi interview and what on the campaign? >> well, there are two kinds of scandals for the candidate. one that reinforces the negative narrative about the campaign and the other one is averting a positive narrative. this does both. it reenforces the idea that the clintons are entitled and shady and indifferent to the distinction between law and not law and that subverts the idea she's a seasoned, experienced
mean? could it mean classified, she had no idea evidently. clearly she or people acting on her behalf destroyed materials that were under subpoena from a congressional committee, just as the irs did with lois lerner. does this matter? how many people are at this point undecided? i maintain still the belief that most americans give more due diligence to the selection of a ca candidate. i'm not sure that details of this granularity matter. >> all right. we're almost out of time. i want to bring ann in on because on this question of whether or not it matters, the race is clearly tightening. on august 9th, in the real clear politics average of polls clinton was leading trump by more than seven points and now it's down to three. do they think that the revelations -- the continued series of revelations about the e-mails and the relationship with the clinton foundation that
i mean, the clinton campaign would like to finally put the entire e-mail episode in the past and move on from it. and every couple of weeks or something happens that doesn't allow them to do so. they always factored in the race would be within five points at the end. if we're at a more or less -- if we're at stasis now they'll take it. >> all right. i will -- o never say you file a strong dissent on this. thank you panel. maryland's governor takes us inside his battle against cancer
a look outside the beltway at the maryland state house in annapolis. finally today, the inside story of maryland governor larry hogan's battle against cancer. last november, hogan sat down with us to talk about his illness and his recovery. here's a special "power player of the week." >> i kind of knew that being governor of maryland as a republican was going to be a tough job. but i was going to face all kinds of challenges but i didn't realize cancer would be one of them. >> larry hogan had been governor five months last year and he noticed a lump in his neck. he'll never forget the diagnosis.
you. you know, you've got 50 or 60 tumors throughout your whole body from your neck to your groin. you have very advanced cancer that's spread all over. >> when they say that to you, 50 to 60 tumors and advanced cancer, what did you think? >> i thought about how am i going to tell my family? what's going to be facing me? >> three days later hogan told the public. >> i was diagnosed with cancer. decided to be just as aggressive as his cancer. six rounds of chemotherapy where each time he would check into the hospital for five days of round the clock treatment. >> i didn't sleep for five days because they give you a huge amount of steroids to combat the chemo. so you're wired. you're wide awake. >> hogan worked the cancer ward like a politician. talking to other patients even
>> you did an excellent job. >> i wasn't supposed to but i was hugging people and shaking their hands. taking pictures with them and it inspired me. >> but as the chemo built up in his body, the side effects got much worse. >> i lost all of my hair. i had a full head of white hair and i lost my eyebrows and my eyelashes. my hands and feet started to lose feeling and had damage. >> he suffered from exhaustion. but he kept doing his job. >> we had meetings in the conference room in the hospital. we had meetings in my hospital room with senior staff. >> as hogan started recovering, he was allowed to go out more. like to the baltimore orioles game where he found a way to engage in a favorite pastime. >> i shook 500 hands or so. i was so excited because i had a batting glove on. now i'm putting 12 hour days in, instead of a few hours.
little bit? >> they keep trying to tell me that but i don't listen very well. >> hogan is back in the state house doing what he used to do. but there have been some changes. what's the biggest thing you learned about yourself? >> there was a few emotional times like you pointed out in the press conference an i teared up a few times when i was with kids. but i'm pretty tough. >> he's found a new mission, as an advocate for cancer research and treatment. >> hofu this soon. as far as my personal fight, but i won't be done with the cause. >> hogan is in a different fight this week. he ordered maryland public schools to extend summer vacation until after labor day starting next year. school officials and some say that should be left to the local school boards. that's it for today and have great holiday weekend. see you on the next "fox news
>> welcome to "full measure." i'm sharyl attkisson. today we begin with a story of an investment advisor from philadelphia who stumbled onto one of the biggest stories about the affordable care act to date. his name is rich weinstein and he helped expose a startling set of videos that changed how many americans view obamacare. though publicly available, these remarkable videos have only been rarely seen, getting just a few