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back in half hour. i'm dan harris. tonight on "world news," show of force. in egypt, the military sends war planes to buzz the protesters, but the crowds are defiant. meanwhile, americans are fleeing as the crisis and a crucial u.s. ally gets deeper tonight. man of the moment. the egyptian uprising appears to be rallying around one man now, who tonight says president mubarak must go. who is this man? and how would he deal with washington? he sits down with our christiane amanpour. no relief. another giant winter storm gathering steam. 100 million americans in its path. where it is headed tonight. and, ruffled feathers. why a popular fast food chicken chain is in an increasingly heated fight with the gay community. good evening. the situation in egypt tonight
is confusing, fluid and dangerous. after six days of protests, the country is on the brink. but on the brink of what? a new government or a bloody crackdown? here's the latest on the crisis. today, military aircraft buzzed demonstrators, but they showed no signs of stopping and the troops made no move to shut them down. opposition leader mohamed elbaradei spoke to a huge crowd, calling for president mubarak to resign. elbaradei now has the backing of the muslim brotherhood, egypt's largest islamic group. and some of the 90,000 americans in egypt poured into the airport today, waiting to get out. tonight, at the white house, and all over the world, they're wrestling with questions like this -- has a line been crossed here? a point of no return? or, can mubarak, a wily dictator, somehow hold onto power? our christiane amanpour has traveled to egypt dozens of times. she's interviewed mubarak on several occasions, and she's leading our coverage from cairo tonight. good evening. >> reporter: good evening, dan.
here, the people seem to be poised between their desire for revolution and the government's desire to implement reform. you mentioned mohamed elbaradei. quite the man of the hour. a popular uprising with no obvious figurehead now may have one. i talked to him one-on-one and we'll get to that later. it has been another momentous day here in cairo. tens of thousands of people on the streets. this, of course, the most populous arab country, biggest one and america's most important ally in the region. the army today putting on a show of force. military jets buzzed overhead as thousands remain in the streets with the army surrounding them. but the relationship between the two seemed good. no one knows whether the army will be ordered to fire and if it does, whether it will carry out those orders. but what is clear is that after two days of looting and crime sprees, it looks like some of the police, which were responsible for some of the original disturbances, are now
being put back onto the streets. alex marquardt has been here for a week and has followed all of us and joins us now. >> reporter: tonight, the curfew has been extended by two hours. but we're seeing it's had almost no impact. tonight, there were thousands on cairo's liberation square, and in this neighborhood alone, there are hundreds out on the streets to protect their homes against looting. "what we have started will not be reversed." the words tonight of mohamed elbaradei, nobel peace prize laureate, reform leader and the man many hope will be the next president of egypt. our main demand is the end of the regime, he told the tens of thousands of excited protesters in this square, ground zero for these protests that have gripped egypt for almost a week. today, they again defied a curfew to be here. >> i'm sure there will be a change. because we're not leaving until there is.
>> reporter: the army, sent in to keep order and enforce the curfew, did nothing. but in a bizarre display, fighter jets streaked low across the square at least a dozen times. military helicopters flew even lower over our heads. there is no doubt among these protesters that the helicopters and jets flying overhead and the widespread looting is the work of a desperate regime intent on intimidating its people. >> he's now trying to scare us. >> reporter: president mubarak today appeared on tv, meeting with his new vice president and prime minister. nominations meant to placate the crowds but have done the opposite. >> this great egyptian revolution. we are a revolution. and we will destroy mubarak. >> reporter: fueling the fire, the minister of information this morning shut down and revoked the credentials of al jazeera, the main independent source of information for most of the arab world.
but al jazeera changed its frequencies and was back on the air late today. as darkness fell, cairo residents set up their own checkpoints for the second night around their neighborhoods to fight off looters. armed with bats and knives, they got ready for a long night in a city in crisis. the unrest has reached something of a plateau. the protesters are out there every day, the military doing nothing to put them down and president mubarak showing no signs of leaving. so, the question tonight is, who will make the next move? >> reporter: indeed. and what we're hearing increasingly from washington are the words orderly transition. while that happens, if it does, there are many, many americans trapped here in egypt, tourists, business people, diplomats. the u.s. state department is urging those who can to leave, and it is also going to be putting planes on to get as many people who want to leave out. we saw dozens and dozens of americans and other tourists stranded at cairo airport when we arrived here last night.
it was nighttime, well after curfew, when we landed in cairo. we found the airport full of stranded tourists, desperate to leave the country. and residents returning, but afraid to venture into town until the curfew was lifted in the morning. we've got a small car, as you can see, all the baggage is being strapped to the roof of the car. and we're going to try to get to our hotel tonight. it's a long drive from the airport into cairo and at first it was eerily quiet. but every hundred yards or so, we were stopped. we're driving from the airport into town. it's practically deserted. very few cars, but there are bands of vigilantes, ad hoc neighborhood watch groups, young men and boys out with wooden batons, metal bars, even machetes. they are watching out for looters and any kind of crime spree because there is no security. they had gathered to protect their property.
and while it was tense, they were also friendly and waved us through. so, you've mobilized your own security? >> absolutely. there's no security. >> reporter: is there none? >> nothing. >> reporter: tonight, we're hearing police will be redeployed onto the streets monday to deal with crime and law and order. but not, we are told, to interfere with the protesters. and tonight, authorities are saying that thousands of the criminals who escaped from jail have been recaptured. dan? >> let's go back for a moment to mohamed elbaradei, who is emerging as perhaps the leader of the opposition. you've known this man for many years. if he were to take power, do you think he's somebody that the u.s. could work with? >> reporter: well, he's being very harsh right now, saying the u.s. needs to understand that their ally, mubarak, needs to leave. on the other hand, he's also said that egypt is always going to be a friend of the united states. i've known him for a long time and so has the u.s. he's not very charismatic, but he's shown bravery coming back here. but he's clear about the fear
and the apprehension the u.s. has, because they are really struggling between their desire for freedom and human rights for the people and their worry that any kind of instability could lead to a dangerous vacuum. as you know, the administration is very concerned that if mubarak goes, the inevitable replacement is the muslim brotherhood or islamic fundamentalism. >> this is total bogus that muslim brotherhood are religiously conservative. they are no way extremists. they are no way using violence. they are not a majority of the egyptian people. they will not be more than 20% of the egyptian people. this is what the regime used, sold to the west and to the u.s. it's either us, repression, or al qaeda-type islamists. this is not egypt. >> reporter: now, after our interview, the muslim brotherhood did say they would choose elbaradei to be their representative, should there be any negotiations with mubarak or
with the government. dan? >> in your travels throughout cairo in the past 36 hours, have you seen any signs that religious extremists are paying a larger role in this uprising? >> reporter: no. and they certainly weren't the leaders of this uprising. it really has been a grassroots uprising. but what we have seen are people on the streets carrying deliberately nationalist symbols. they're carrying the egyptian flag, the poster of their first president. and when i was in the square this evening, watching people at prayer time, in the shadow of the tanks, they came up to me and they said, look, just because we're praying does not mean to say that we're looking for an islamic revolution. so, the people here are also very aware of the fears of the west and the wider region. dan? >> christiane amanpour leading abc news coverage of the crisis in egypt, thank you. and this crisis has really placed the obama administration in a vice. the president doesn't want to be
on the wrong side of history, failing to back a historic move towards democracy, but he also doesn't want to alienate mubarak, a long-time ally, in case he manages to survive. david kerley is following that story in washington tonight. >> reporter: for a second day, protesters in front of the white house demanded president obama call on mubarak to leave egypt. instead, the president, who met with his national security team throughout the weekend, is calling for that orderly transition to a more responsive government. secretary of state hillary clinton says a faux democracy is unacceptable. >> real democracy, not a democracy for six months or a year and then evolving into essentially military dictatorship, or a so-called democracy that then leads to what we saw in iran. >> reporter: without completely abandoning mubarak, who met with his military team today, the administration is now talking much more about the egyptian people and getting good marks
from most corners. >> one of the things that they have done right is not to infuse america directly into this crisis in a manner that would make this more about the u.s. than about egypt. >> reporter: while tunisia's revolt just two weeks ago brought about a quick overthrow and helped spark egypt's uprising, change at the top of egypt may not follow that model. >> my gut tells me mubarak is not going to flee the country like the president of tunisia. he's not made that way. >> reporter: already, there are economic impacts. tomorrow, analysts will watch to see if the stock market rebounds from friday's 166-point drop. the price of oil is up, too. while egypt doesn't produce much oil itself, it does control the suez canal and a pipeline that carries 2 million barrels a day. and beyond egypt, to the east, the major oil producers. a worst-case scenario? the suez is shut down and the street revolt spreads. interrupting oil production. >> then you start getting into sort of a doomsday scenario and
you get very high oil proiss. but you're going to see more an the price of oil effected. >> reporter: but analysts say that is very unlikely. they say there may be short-term volatility, but whoever runs the countries is going to want to sell oil. dan, one other thing. the phone lines down here are burning up as administration officials keep in touch with each other and speak to their counterparts both in egypt and israel. dan? >> david kerley wrapping up our coverage of the crisis in egypt tonight, thank you. and, now, to another big story we're following tonight, the weather. there is a huge storm moving across the country. it's coming from the west and before midweek, three quarters of the country will get hit. wabc meteorologist jeff smith is here with the outlook. this thing is really a beast. >> it is. i think 100 million people are going to be affected by this. as it comes out of the rockies, it moves into texas. during the day on tuesday. and north of the track of the storm is where you're going to get your band of heaviest snowfall. missouri and chicago and over to detroit. south of that area, you have a
major ice and freezing rain event from places like indianapolis over to columbus, could cause downed trees and power outages. in chicago, by the way, could be measuring the snow in feet and this will cause a ripple effect. i expect some of the chicago airports shut down by the time this is said and done. >> another insult in a very difficult winter. >> right in time for groundhog day, too. >> dually noted. jeff smith, thank you. and coming up here on "world news" this sunday, the food fight between a popular chicken restaurant chain and the gay community. nazis making a comeback in america's public debate. and the people who want to put a stop to it. and our reporter on the silver lining patrol, looking for the very few people who are actually happy to be hit with this season's record ice and snow. ice and snow. was abe lincoln honest? mary: does this dress ake my backside look big?
we are going to take a look tonight at a budding controversy that pits a wildly popular fast food chain against the gay community. the owners of chick-fil-a have proudly built christian principles into their corporate culture. but when one of its outlets donated food to a group that has worked to block same sex marriage, gay rights groups said enough. here's steve osunsami. >> reporter: this argument between gay rights groups and chick-fil-a is more than a decade old, but it blew up last week when the fast food retailer revealed it was providing lunch at a conference called the art of marriage. >> i think one of the greatest gifts you can really give to the
next generation is faithfulness and fidelity in marriage. >> reporter: the group behind the faith-based seminar is the pennsylvania family institute. decidedly opposed to gay marriage and key supporters of pennsylvania's defense of marriage act which lawmakers approved in 1996. >> keep your social issues and your religious issues out of my chicken nuggets, you know? >> reporter: across the country and online, gay men and women and their families are furious. >> to me, it's just clear discrimination. >> when they are sponsoring organizations that are seeking to amend state constitutions to ban rights for same sex couples, then that's when the gay community starts to wonder about their commitment to equality. >> reporter: he says it's more than just a free lunch. it's the company's commitment to supporting the institution of marriage while doing little to advance the issue for gay men and women. chick-fil-a has a retreat for traditionally married employees. the company's founder explained it to us in 2006.
he's a traditional man, god fearing, married for 63 years and his stores are closed on sundays. >> this is your day, sunday, your day for family. >> reporter: chick-fil-a says it's misleading that they're anti-gay. instead, they say they're a family business that serves and values all people. >> providing food to these events or any event is not an endorsement of the mission, political stance or motives of this or any other organization. >> reporter: in yet another statement saturday, the company's president wrote that, "while my family and i believe in the biblical definition of marriage, we love and respect anyone who disagrees." steve osunsami, abc news, atlanta. and coming up on the broadcast, it is showing up in political arguments all the time now. but should calling someone a nazi be out of bounds? ♪
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recapping our top story tonight, it is day six now of the crisis in egypt, and the regime is putting on a show of force, buzzing the crowds of protesters with jets and helicopters. but the protesters showed no sign of giving up. and this uprising may now have a figurehead. mohamed elbaradei. a nobel laureate and former u.n. nuclear weapons chief. and recapping our other notch story, a powerful storm is set to blanket the country. you can be sure most of us will be wishing this thing gone. but there are other people who will say "bring it on." and lynn see dinsey davis has b talking to them. >> reporter: with all the
cancellations, collisions and closures lately, the idea of more snow these days typically provokes frigid, icy stares. >> yes, i'm already sick of it. >> reporter: but then, there are those who see all this as, well, one gigantic snow bank. a literal accumulation of wealth. and every time you hear the forecast, your response? >> my response is very positive. we're all very thrilled. when it snopes in our marketplace, people are thinking about skiing and they're coming. >> reporter: at winham mountain in upstate new york -- >> it can snow as much as it likes. >> reporter: they haven't had to make snow in several weeks. >> natural snow is, you can't improve on mother nature. >> reporter: the entire town here counts on snow to fuel the economy. >> last week we were so disappointed because the snow just missed us. so, there's another one coming this week and everyone is excited about it. >> reporter: sarah solo owns a company in new jersey that repairs snow blowers. with business up 50%, she
certainly isn't fretting over forecasts with that four-letter word. >> we have heavy, moist snow, the machines are prone to breaking down, you know, much more, because it takes a strain on them. >> reporter: better business for you? >> excellent. >> reporter: at this eastern mountain sports in boston, the forecast has caused a flurry of business. how would you compare business this year to last year? >> we're up over 20%. >> reporter: 20%? inside this winter's virtual snow globe, there are certainly those who see a snow day as a payday. linsey davis, abc news, windham, new york. >> glad somebody's enjoying it. that's going to do it for "world news" tonight. diane sawyer is right back here tomorrow. i'm dan harris. thanks for watching, and good night.
>> i just presumed that british airways is probably flying. >> alan: a bay area man prepares to leave cairo as thousands of egyptians defy a curfew for a third night. good evening. today egypt's military put on a show or force over cairo protestors. fighter jets buzzed the demonstrators as police returned to the streets with a high profile display of authority and a situation spiraling out of control. now in its sixth day, the protests are centered in the main square. the official death toll stands at 97, thousands injured. witnesses believe the