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this week -- it's been one year since he was swept to power by a tea party tsunami. 12 months of triumph and frustrations. >> i have tried all year. with every fiber of my being. to try to get members on both sides of the aisle, try to get president to get serious. >> now with public anger at congress at an all-time high, john boehner faces his toughest challenge yet. >> this is hard. today, a "this week" exclusive. speaker of the house on president obama, the debt supercommittee and the republican 2012 contenders. then -- >> i have never sexually harassed anyone. >> a bizarre twist on the campaign trail.
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>> excuse me. excuse me. >> will the skeletons in cain's closet doom his campaign? and does this drama threaten to reshape the political field? our roundtable tackles all of the week's politics. as well as the gloomy economic forecast. how the debt crisis in europe affects your 401(k) here at home. plus, condoleezza rice on barack obama, the former secretary of state on the current commander-in-chief and the republicans vying to replace him. good morning and welcome to the program. we have lots to get to this morning. but first, some news since your morning papers. clash of the titans in texas last night. as herman cain and newt gingrich met for the first of a series of one-on-one
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lincoln/douglas-style debates. it was a largely civilized affair, with the fireworks coming after, when reporters peppered cain about those sexual harassment allegations. >> mr. cain the attorney for one of the women who filed sexual harassment claims against you -- >> don't even go there. >> can i ask my question? >> no, end of story. back on message. read all of the other accounts. everything has been answered, end of story. >> like it or not the pizza mogul has been tabloid fodder for days. and for all of our wrong reasons. in our special feature today, our man jon karl takes us through this long, strange week in politics. >> and there's herman cain. still looking like he's having the time of his life. still on top of the polls. and this is at the end of the
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week we would have thought sunk any presidential candidate. just think of how it all started. >> the politico, based on spirely anonymous sources, two unnamed women, accused cain of sexual harassment when he was ceo of the national restaurant association. cain called the story a witch hunt. >> i have never sexually harassed anyone and those accusations are totally false. >> reporter: and the cash settlement? >> i'm unaware of any sort of settlement. >> reporter: a few hours after that, his memory was again improving. >> there was a financial settlement and it was somewhere in the vicinity of three to six-months' severance pay.
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>> reporter: pressed on why he changed his story, cain parsed words. >> the word settlement versus the word agreement, i'm not sure what they called it. >> where have we heard talk like that? >> it depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is. >> reporter: even cain's friends were troubled. >> how does herman cain parsing words in such a way -- >> it wasn't intended to be clintonian. >> reporter: next the cain campaign lashed out at rick perry. blaming him without evidence of spreading the story in the first place. >> rick perry needs to apologize to herman cain and america. >> reporter: not happening. >> no apology needed. we found out at the same time that america found out about it. >> in all of time, cain stayed in washington. getting more and more irritated by the day. >> excuse me. excuse me. >> reporter: the lawyer for one of cain's accusers say that
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she's standing behind her claims. >> he knows the specific claims that were alleged. >> why is he still statistically tied with mitt romney still leading the pack. there were other things happening, that rick perry's speech in new hampshire. >> bring it. >> so animated, it became a youtube sensation. >> i love herman, isn't he the best? >> finally, trending. up, anonymous. accusers and sources dominated the week's news and the world still doesn't know their names. mark block, done. last week's internet sensation has had a rough week, even agreed to stop smoking if cain wins. mitt romney, sideways. what else? another top contender seems to go down. but romney still doesn't go up. down, the nra. no, not that nra.
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the national restaurant association. maybe too much hospitality? >> excuse me. excuse me. >> this week in politics, i'm jonathan karl. >> thanks again to jon karl. and president obama was overseas this week at the g-20 summit. he comes home to a tidal wave of voter angst. our abc news/washington post poll out today, puts the president's job approval at just 44%. what's more, just 13% of americans say they're better off than they were when he took office. and 74% say the country is on the wrong track. the president isn't the only one feeling the heat. 80% of americans are frustrated with the federal government these days. of that number, 31% are down right angry. it's one reason house republicans are pushing back against accusations that they're do-nothing obstructionists. when i sat down with speaker
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john boehner branished this flyer, showing the job legislation he's passed. i asked the speaker how compromise has become such a dirty word on capitol hill? mr. speaker, thank you very much for joining us. >> good being here. >> reporter: let's talk about jobs. you talked about trying to find common ground. at the moment, there doesn't seem to be much. infrastructure can't get through congress. >> we have seen some common ground. we passed three trade agreements. part of our plan, part of the president's plan. as a matter of fact, it's all part of our plan for american job creators. we passed 22 bills, all with bipartisan support that would help reduce barriers to job growth. they all remain in the united states senate. you're going to see the house move, i think, before the end of the year on an infrastructure bill.
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>> now, you obviously disagree with the idea of paying for this with extra taxes. some 75% of americans agree with an increase in tax on millionaires as a way to pay for these job provisions. do you not feel that by opposing it that you're basically out of step with the american people? >> over half of the people would be tax under this plan would be small business people. these people hope to revinnest in our economy and create jobs. that's the real crux of the problem. and, secondly, i would point out this, we have a spending problem. we have done all of this stimulus spending the last couple of years and clearly it hasn't worked. >> you say that there's more room for revenues? what do you mean by that. >> i believe if we restructure our tax code, on the corporate side and on the personal side, a
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top rate of 25%, it would make our economy more competitive with the rest of the world, it would put americans back to work. we would have broader base on the tax rules and out of there, there would be real economic growth and more revenues for the federal government. >> do you agree at all that there should be any kind of tax increases? >> i believe that we can create revenue by fixing our tax codes and bring that revenue to the table as long as our colleagues on the other side of the aisle are serious about cutting spending. i have tried all year to get members on both sides of the aisle, try to get the president to get serious about dealing with our debt problem. nobody more upset that we couldn't come to an agreement than the president i was. >> a year into the new congress, what is your biggest regret then? >> i really thought that the president and i would come to an
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agreement. i thought for the good of the country, he and i could have solved this problem. we could have passed a significant bill to reduce our longterm obligations. listen, we have made promises to ourselves that our kids and grandkids cannot afford. we have to deal with it. we have the deficit committee, the so--called supermitt tee, they're hard at work, i got to tell you, these members, all 12 of them, both democrats and republicans, they have worked diligently, they have put in incredible numbers of hours. they're not there yet. i'm going to everything i can to continue to encounsel them and help them reach a successful outcome. >> with so much hope put into their efforts, yet they still seem to be stuck, trying to come out with $1.3 trillion -- >> i wouldn't describe it as a impasse. if it was easy, congresses over the last two decades would have
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solved it. it's hard. >> do you think it will work? >> it has to work. i'm committed to insuring that it works. >> if it doesn't, there are automatic cuts. would you be able to live with those, half of those cuts might come from the defense department? >> i think it's important for our government to solve our deficit and our debt problem. we need to take a big step in the right direction. i'll do everything i can to ensure that the super committee is successful. >> you talked about the $800 billion or so that you were trying to make an agreement with president obama in terms of revenues. it didn't work. you said that's one of our biggest let greats, could that happen again, could you get back to that point? >> well, i think it's hard to put humpty-dumpty back together again. >> how much revenue do you think you could -- yowl could get?
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>> thats to $64 million question. nobody knows. >> you talked about fairness, and of course, obviously, a lot of the conversation in this country over the last year or so, has been about spending cuts, getting the deficit under control, but it's sort of shifting now to the whole big disparity in income. income inequality that people are talking about. latest reports say, something say 1 in 15 americans live in extreme poverty. which is defined as something $11,000 per family of four. are you concerned that these budget cuts are going to hurt the people who can least afford it? >> no one here in this congress, democrat or republican, wants to do anything about putting holes in the safety net for americans, there are americans who are poor. and i think it's the responsibility of the rest of us to ensure they have food in
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their stomachs and they have a roof over their heads. john kennedy said some 50 years ago, a rising tide lifts all boats. we have to get our economy moving again. until we get our economy moving again, and start producing more jobs, we're going to have all kinds of uncertainty, concern and frankly fear of the future. >> of course, that's the american way. but yet, not just income inequality has expanded but also the idea of social mobility is kind of slowing down. it's even slower than in other parts of the world. and clearly the republicans are being portrayed as the party that doesn't really care and are really quote, unquote, the servants of the rich. >> well, i think that's very unfair. listen, i come from a family of 12. my dad owned a bar. i got brothers and sisters on every wrung of the economic ladder.
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what our job here in congress is to do here -- and the reason i came here 21 years ago was to make sure that the american dream that was available to us is available for our kids and our grandkids. most people don't believe that's the case today. frankly, i got concerns that it may not be the case. we can't have a government that's taking 30, 40 cents out of every dollar from our kids and grandkids to pay for government. you can't have both. and i do believe that, my job, and my vision is to make sure that the american dream is alive and well for everyone in america. >> you look at occupy wall street, i think you said that you understand their frustration. people such as, let's say, eric cantor, called them a mob not so long ago.
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do you agree with that? >> i understand people's frustrations and concerns. i frankly understand we have differences in america. we're not going to engage in class warfare. president is out there doing it every day. i frankly think it's unfortunate. because our job is to help all americans. not to pit one set of americans against another. >> do you think that's happening >> the president is clearly trying to do it. it's wrong. >> you said class warfare. i asked bill gates about this whole notion. he said, look, class warfare is where you have people in the streets, barricading the streets, fighting each other. the president is talking about a much fairer sense of sacrifice. they point to taxes and tax cuts and who it benefits. >> come on, the top 1% pay 38%
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of the income taxes in america. how much more do you want them to pay? let's take all of the money, it won't even put a dent in our current budget deficit much less our debt. >> congress isn't very popular with the people. no matter what you say about the president, congress's approval ratings are way lower. how do you live with that? >> congress has never been popular. >> but this is historic levels. this is the worst. >> they look at the battles that gone on here at capitol hill, and they don't like to see it. i understand that. it would surprise people that 90% of the time, members of congress on both sides of the aisle get along. but that's not news for those of you in the news business. it's only when we're disagreeing. listen, the founders gave us a committee of 535 people. frankly it was designed not to work. my job is to make it work.
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and is it is working. is it slow? yes. is it frustrating? yes. but, what i take a comfort in every day, i know members on both sides of the aisle are trying to do the right thing for the american people every single day. >> can i quickly turn to 2012, which is in everybody's mind. is mitt romney the man who would put up the stiffest competition to president obama's re-election? >> there are a lot of good candidates out there running. my focus is on the congress of the united states and trying to get our economy going again and producing jobs. here, this is my book. right here. my plan for american job creators. that's my focus. i'm sure republican voters across the country will choose a good candidate. whatever candidate they choose i'll support. >> and herman cain who has zoomed to the top with his 9-9-9 and now is having troubles with allegations against him, do you think he's handling this well?
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how would you advise him? >> i think he and his opponents will have a nice debate about this. i'm not going there. my focus is right here. >> if your focus is right here, how would you describe today, your relationship with president obama, because essentially that's what's going to make stuff happen? >> the president and i have a it's been a little frosty here the last few weeks. we got a good relationship. >> still? >> yes. and i told the president, i am the straight-up transpernt person in this town. i would never mislead him. my word is my bond. so, we've got a pretty good relationship. doesn't mean that we always agree. but the american people expect, even though we have very different ideas, the american people want us to look for common ground. and then act on it. so far, we have been able to do that.
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we have taken some steps in the right direction here over the last couple of months. we have a lot more steps to take together. >> house speaker, thank you very much indeed. >> thank you. coming up -- barack obama, comeback kid? the roundtable on the president's quest to defy history precedent. supercommittee's long, hard slog now nearing its climax. teamwork. when it comes to preparing for your financial future, it helps to have a team that performs well together. pacific life offers life insurance, annuities for lifetime income, mutual funds and retirement solutions. ask a financial professional about how pacific life's more than 140 years of experience can bring strength to your team.
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our new abc news/washington post poll shows that 63 .of americans believe that the economy hasn't recovered yet. let's bring in our roundtable. george will. huffington post's arianna huffington. matthew doud dowd and niall ferguson, author of the new book of "civilization." let me turn to you, george, let me ask you about the unemployment numbers, is that something of a trend or just scratching the surface? what difference will that make? >> first of all, 80,000 isn't nearly enough to accommodate even the natural growth month by month of the work force. two bits of good news in there. the 80,000 is a net number. the private sector created 104,000 job. the public sector happily
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shrank by 24,000 jobs. here's the bad news, 46% of the unemployed have been unemployed for six months or more. 4 million americans have been unemployed for more than a year. we know what happens. skills decay, the very spirit that causes people to engage in economic life decays. the result is, if you have been unemployed for six months or more, your lifetime earnings are apt to decline by 20% under natural trajectory. >> niall, it doesn't look like people have much faith that it's going to get better? >> i think people actually turn out to be better economists than economists. the consensus view, if you go back, if you hit the economy with a big mon stair stimulus, on the fiscal side, there would be a v-shaped recovery and the u.s. would bounce back like it did after most recessions. people recognize that this isn't an ordinary recession.
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the remember real problem is, the drag on consumer spending is the great debt that households accumulated over the last 10, 15 years. there will not be a great bounce at any point soon. it's a very slow process, paying down that debt. it restrains americans from going out to the shopping malls and after all, the main driver of growth in the glory years before the crash was consumption. >> there's a bit of a funk to niall's point. >> well, i think what's happening, there's a sense of a groundhog day feeling. every day, the first friday of each month, get these job numbers. and nothing is fundamentally changing. the most depressing thing is, what was in ron suskind book, saying that politicians, when it comes to reform just want to be caught trying. you saw that in your interview with john boehner. he's trying to create jobs. you see president in front of
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crumbling bridges, suddenly we're getting closer to 2012, he wants to be seen trying to create infrastructure jobs. it's all a show, no real effort -- there are many ideas out there about how it could be done. >> i want you to weigh in on this, show you some numbers about who the american people blame and hold responsible for. basically in october the president had a 15-point advantage over congressional republicans on the question of who the public trusts to handle the job. a month later, our poll has them tied at 40%. which is a big drop for the president in terms of pure politics, what does this mean? >> that's where the president is in trouble on this. even if there's a glimmer of hope in some statistical basis on job creation, the american public gets to make the decision whether or not we're in a recovery. until america's income changes,
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they do not believe that the country is on the right track. and if that number goes further month to month, the president's numbers are going to drop. unless economy really changes and the public really feels it. the problem is, there's been no politician on the left or right that has laid out a vision that the country believes they can see what the economy will look like in five, ten years. the country does not believe that there's been a poll -- politician who has said this is where we're going and this is how we're going to get there. >> one of those end points is what the supercommittee, you heard me ask speaker boehner about that. do you believe they're going to come up with an agreement by the deadline, just before thanksgiving? george? >> the problem is, by next sunday, they have to have a plan if they're going to get it scored by the congressional budget office before the 23rd. the president needs this committee to fail. because he's already decided to run against what he calls the republican congress while he was lecturing in constitutional law.
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he missed that part of article i who says there's a senate also. and the democrats control that. and as boehner said, they're holding up a lot of legislation. if he's going to run against a do-nothing congress, it has to do nothing. therefore, they can go for a big deal which is unlikely. they can say, we got $1.2 trillion which we're required to get over ten years. which is trivial. or they can let the so-called sequester happen. counting on the fact that congress is going to say, we don't want to do that. the automatic cuts have to come from defense. but defense defined broadly to include the department of home land security. >> this is seems like a potentially huge miscalculation by the president. the blame is beginning to shift towards him in the
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underperformance in in the unemployment market. i think the president gets hit hardest if the economy is still in the tank 12 months from now. >> just look around at the world. whoever's in power is getting hit. look at what's happening in greece? look at what's happening in spain? where the socialist candidate for prime minister is going to overwhelmingly going to lose. it doesn't matter where you're coming from, if you're in charge you're being blamed for what happened. >> how is that economic crisis? the mess we have seen in europe over the past week, how is it going to affect americans here at home? >> pretty significantly. with a double dip. talking about another recession. the u.s. needs the euro zone and the european union generally to be growing well. if american consumers aren't out there shopping, exports are one
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of the few areas that u.s. can hope to get growth out. a euro recession is bad news for u.s. >> i think it has a tremendous affect on the america psyche. think where americans are today, they feel they're the victims of a lot of global forces in the world. they don't feel that anyone is out in front saying here's how we're going to do. president obama reinforces the idea i can't really do anything about this. i can't do this as opposed, i have a plan, this is what we're going to do. as a country sees all of this going around the world, it's another thing, of, who's in charge? >> the failure of mf global the financial institution, it failed without implicating american taxpayers. it failed because it made a bet on europe sovereign debt. >> it didn't make a big enough debt. too big to fail is still there.
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that's one of the dangers that's still looming ahead. >> we'll be back ahead. coming up -- foot in mouth strikes the republican presidential field, rick perry, herman cain, words get in a word. our roundtable will continue after a break. ur
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herman cain's sunny campaign took a stormy turn this week. the candidate sent mixed messages for days as he confronted sexual harassment claims from his past. so, will the scandal bring his soaring campaign back down to earth? let's bring back the roundtable. george, first to you, can herman cain survive it and fix it? >> he can fix it and he still won't survive. i don't his is a viable presidential campaign. he's just not -- >> regardless of this? >> he's not conducting it as a campaign. he's not going where the early voters are going to go. he's not raising money. this looks like something other than what it purports to be. >> so, matt? >> i agree he's not conducting this like a normal campaign. the interesting is, he's either leads in the polls or tied in the polls. i think there are bunch of voters who want a nontraditional
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candidate which is why herman cain has risen in the campaign. these latest allegations, if he gets through them, he mishandled this terribly. mishandled this whole thing terribly. but to me, this whole thing with herman cain is a signal about how tribal our politics have become. immediately when this allegation come out, the right castigates poltico who broke the story, the media and castigates him saying this is horrible. then the left says, he's disqualified, he can't run and no one can have a measure conversation about the people involved and the issues. >> but i think this is more of a problem with our media culture. herman cain is the latest balloon boy. everybody's obsessed with it. it's wall to wall coverage. even the three networks, there were about 50 stories on herman cain in the first three days. if you really ask commentators off the air, if they think it's probable if herman cain before
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these allegations could be president, they would tell you no. why are we obsessing about it? >> we're obsessing because he could become the candidate. but the interesting thing here is, the republican field is such a mess that anything is possible. given the mood in the past here, that they won't anoint mitt romney and they'll go for herman cain. >> before we get to mitt romney, i want to ask you about the substantive issues. what herman cain said on china. >> yes, they're a military threat. they indicated they're trying to develop nuclear capability and they want to develop more aircraft carriers like we have, so, yes, we have to consider them a military threat. >> well, we know that china has had nuclear capabilities since the 1960s. is this, again, problematic, a
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misspeak as he said? how does this presidential candidate say this thing in? >> i thought this oriental misspeak was more of an embarrassme embarrassment. when i saw that, i must say, i right an op. if you don't know that, what else don't you know? this is sarah palin territory. she used to say stuff like that. and everybody said, forget it. i think that's the serious thing that happened to him, he lost his credibility. >> cain is a leading indicator for this month of a multimonth phenomenon. which is resistance to mitt romney. what mitt romney people say, he says that the cure to the lack of enthusiasm is winning. once you start winning. they think he'll win in new hampshire. they're going to try to win in iowa. if you win in iowa and new hampshire it's over.
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think the cure to the lack of enthusiasm is winning. >> let's play just something that mitt romney said, lot of the discomfort with him is what people considered flip flopping. let's have a quick look about what he said about this issue. >> can't state every issue with the same words every single time. so some folks, for some political and campaign purps will find some great change. which is entirely consistent. >> the problem is not saying the differences, in 1996, he denounced the flat tax as a flat tax for fat cats. this year, he says i love a flat tax. >> fundamental problem that he has, the tea party voters and the republican party won't vote for him is that he think he's got a secret. his secret is he's going to win the nomination, as soon as he wins the nomination, he'll go back to what he was in massachusetts.
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set himself up as a moderate businessman. that's what they think. they're valid to fear that. >> that's what he got to do to win. he'll get the nomination. he'll get the nomination and a lot of grumbling on the left. i think right now, very unwise to bet against mitt romney of becoming president. >> there is a dark horse and that's jon huntsman who knows that china has nuclear capabilities. >> i give herman cain a better chance that jon huntsman. >> predictors say that actually huntsman would be the most serious challenger, but he doesn't have -- >> the voters get to make that decision and voters don't like jon huntsman in the republican party. >> at the moment. at the moment.
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as the front-runners are imploding one after another, and jon huntsman may be the last man standing. >> if herman cain, in this course of this week, if he falls, the numbers aren't going to go, the votes aren't going to go to mitt romney now. the natural one to go to now is newt gingrich. i think it will be fluid until the iowa caucus. i think anything can happen until the iowa caucus. as george pointed out, there is this huge boat out there, moving around at 75%, wanting somebody other than mitt romney. until they're forced to make the decision, they'll keep moving. >> how much of you watched the perry video? >> i liked that side of him. the problem is, all of the texans i know can't stand him. i think that's a pretty bad sign to me. if he wants that guy who's swaggering --
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>> the explanation was that he was drunk. >> he denied it. >> his campaign should come out and admit it. >> i have seen rick perry before in texas and have watched him for 25 years, i have seen that side of him, it's not related to painkillers, that's sometimes what he does. in some ways it could help him. he has been too stiff and he hasn't performed well. until you get a little goofy. >> george, he has sort of stiffened his campaign process. >> first of all, you know the wrong texans. but a majority of texans -- you know a minority. second, the people in the room in new hampshire seemed to like it. third, now about mitt romney, he may be our henry navarre he
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converted to catholicism. to keep the throne saying memorably, paris is well worth a mass and it may work for mitt romney. >> the rest will continue on our roundtable in the green room. up next, former secretary of state condoleezza rice on barack obama, george w. bush and the republicans who would be president. stay with us. who would be president. stay with us. all over the world, cities are learning from other cities. smarter technologies cut response times in madrid, while monitoring water systems in washington d.c., built off analytics that predict traffic in singapore, and help prepare for flooding emergencies in rio. with 2,000 projects underway, ibm is helping make cities smarter. i'm an ibmer. let's build a smarter planet, city by city.
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a deadly morning in baghdad today as three bombs exploded in a sprawling market. the attack came as shoppers were preparing for a muslim festival. it comes just after hours the prime minister al-maliki told his security forces to prepare for backup forces. some are concerned that al qaeda will establish a foothold in the country. all questions for former secretary of state condoleezza rice. she has a new memoir "no higher honor." i spoke with her earlier. thank you for joining us. >> it's a pleasure to be with you write in your book, about the bush administration and the bush years, and when you first met the current president barack obama during a hearing. you say his questions were sharp, not rude. he actually seemed interested in my answers.
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you said that you were really impressed. lot of people questioned whether he had what it took to be commander in chief of the lone superpower. did he prove them wrong? >> obviously, i think barack obama has done a number of things right, particularly on the war on the terror. i think he's carried the war on terror forward in a very effective way. >> let me ask you about the most controversial event of your tenure, and that was the iraq war, for better or worse, the united states is in it, president obama has decided to call an end and to bring all of the troops out, portraying it as a triumph, others are saying it was a defeat, do you think it was right not to push and keep -- at the very least, 10,000 u.s. troops to guarantee some kind of security, to train or be there for counterterrorism?
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>> first of all, i think it help the regional balance to have a residual u.s. presence there. >> of course the administration says it's because the iraqis wouldn't agree to immunity. the real issue is, this administration insisted on feeding to state department and pentagon lawyers, demand that they get this immunity ratified by the iraqi parliament. you didn't do that, without forcing it through the parliament, you got the agreement. was it a mistake for president obama to do that? >> i'm rather reluctant to criticize negotiations that i didn't participate in. it would have been better to have a residual force from my point of view. perhaps there was a way out of the immunity clause that wasn't taken. >> so, is there a risk now of everything that americans paid unraveling? >> yes. what is at risk here, not only the sacrifice of the united states, but also a pillar of a new kind of democratic stability in the middle east.
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>> and equally important, if not more is afghanistan, the obama administration sources are telling me, are likely to change their role, even before 2014, from a combat to a much lesser role, maybe advisory, is that safe at this time? is the taliban anywhere near being defeated? >> i'm not inside. i don't see that the taliban is anywhere near being defeated. if you're looking for some kind of political arrangement in afghanistan, that brings former warring elements in, but if you're looking for that arrangement, you should be in the strongest position not the weakest. i don't think that right now the afghan government and the nato mission is in a position to make that kind of political deal. yes, i think there's a considerable risk in speeding up the timetable for afghan. >> you also write about iran,
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iaea this week is about to reveal more details that iran is apparently trying to weaponize, do you think the united states, the obama administration, has to ratchet up the confrontation. does that involve military confrontation by the u.s.? >> the united states should make clear that the president of the united states will consider military action if necessary. because you never want to take that card off the table. i think there are other ways to confront iran, you can confront iran through even tougher sanctions and i also think, christiane, this is one of the down sides of having our forces out of iraq, we can confront the iranians in iraq. so, yes, i think it's time to confront the iranian regime. the poster child of state-sponsor of terrorism. it's trying to get a nuclear weapon, it's repressed its over people.
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we should to do everything we can to bring it down. >> let me ask you about 2012, i want you to ask in terms of foreign policy, you know republicans, they describe themselves as the adults on foreign policy, and yet in this particular campaign, they all seem like they're rushing to the exit when it comes to foreign policy, or in the case of herman cain, kind of making fun of a lack of knowledge, he did the whole uzbeki-stan thing. >> in retrospect, it probably a great thing to say if you're running for president. we're so interconnected. >> mr. cain stumbled when he said that china quote, indicated they're trying to develop a nuclear capability. china has been a nuclear power since the 1960s. were you alarmed by this statement? were you alarmed by this lack of knowledge? >> i don't know the context in which he said it.
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sometimes people misspeak. but i will say this -- >> you really think it was misspeak -- >> i don't know. christiane -- >> does it worry you? >> i don't know. it concerns me that we are not having a discussion about foreign policy. and obviously, i would suggest that anybody who's going to run for president of the united states, spend some time on the basics on foreign policy. i remember when i was working with george w. bush, he had been governor of texas, he knew mexico and latin america well, but he spent a lot of time in 1999, really addressing the issues, bringing people to the governor's mansion to talk about foreign policy. anyone running for president owes it to the american people to take the time to do that. >> thank you so much for joining me. and up next -- is there new evidence that mitt romney is making a hard play for iowa?
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