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>> announcer: starting right now on "this week" with george stephanopoulos -- chaos at crunch time. just one week to iowa and a fractured gop taking aim at its front-runners. >> donald trump is getting really rattled. >> i could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and i would not lose any voters, okay? >> we're on the ground in iowa with eight days to go. plus, fight to the finish. >> -- diplomacy is not a spe spectator sport. >> stick with me. >> as sanders surges ahead of hillary clinton, could he really pull off a stunning upset? bernie sanders joins us live and former mayor michael bloomberg considering a 2016
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run, could he change everything? >> announcer: from abc news, it's "this week," here now, co-anchor martha raddatz. good morning, and we're almost there. it's the final sprint in iowa, just eight days until the very first votes of 2016, and both parties facing an identity crisis. with surprise outsiders on both sides, looking like they can topple the insiders. just last night, "the des moines register" went with the insiders. giving its coveted endorsements to marco rubio and hillary clinton. then there's that breaking news -- michael bloomberg, billionaire and former new york mayor, putting together a plan to potentially mount a third-party bid for president. all that in just a moment. but we start with the massive winter storm with millions of americans waking up this morning, buried under several feet of snow. abc news senior meteorologist
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rob marciano has all of the latest from new york city, which came within just one-tenth of an inch of topping its all-time snow record. good morning, rob, just how bad was this? >> well, you know -- just over 2 feet of snow, as you mentioned. for a 24-hour total we did break that record. we didn't expect to see this much snow. that might have caught the city by surprise. the city has done a fair job of digging things out. in areas just to the west, check out some of these numbers. this, a huge swath of incredibly heavy snow. shepardstown, west virginia, 40.5 inches. somerset, pennsylvania, 35.5. almost 3 feet in allentown, pennsylvania. for the big cities, you
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literally just shut it down, because you have no place to put the snow. look at what it looked like yesterday in times square, you never see it like this, people kind of walking the streets. there was a travel ban that has since been lifted. big cities like new york, philly baltimore and d.c., brought to their knees with this crippling snowstorm. >> so, concerns in the next couple of days. you mentioned some of those challenges. but what do you see in the next couple of days? >> today, it's going to be right around the freezing mark. some sunshine. taller buildings will see melting. you got these huge mounds of snow that pedestrians have to navigate. this will become a little bit slushy monday, tuesday, wednesday, as it warms up. today it's treacherous to get around. the roads aren't too horrible. i mean, new york's finest having to deal with getting out here. you're talking about emergency vehicles and first responders struggling to get where they need to be. the city itself they're hiring people, anybody over the age of
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18, they will hire you as a day laborer to shovel snow. >> rob, thank you for joining us this morning. >> you bet. and joining us now here in our nation's capital is d.c. mayor muriel bowser. mayor, i saw trucks all night sanding the roads. give us an assessment. >> we finished 36 hours of snow last night and we have been working, pushing and plowing snow throughout the entire storm. but, once the snow finished, that's when the real digout has begun in washington, d.c. >> and give us an assessment about tomorrow, monday morning, what will it look like in d.c.? government opened? roads cleared? metro opened? schools opened? what do you think? >> we're doing that assessment right now. i was out all night looking at
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our roads across the city, so, our crews are doing an excellent job on our main thoroughfares, our primary roads. and now, today, they'll move into secondary and residential roads. this is not a one-day digout, i have to emphasize to our residents. we'll be dealing with snow throughout this week. and we'll make an assessment of our operations, schools and government in the coming hours. >> and what is the likelihood with the metro, how long do you think this will take? i know it's always a problem with those huge snow banks and melting snow and ice? >> well, i know metro brought in tremendous resources over the weekend to clear stations. but also, to clear their track and keep their tracks de-iced. and so, they're not going to be opened today and it's not likely the metro bus will get opened tomorrow. we're hopeful that they'll be able to have some limited
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service starting tomorrow. but i know that the general manager will make an announcement about the entire metro system by the end of today, late afternoon today. >> thanks very much, mayor bowser. >> thanks, martha. and as rob told us earlier, new york city got hit much harder than first expected. mayor bill de blasio joins us. welcome, mayor. you didn't expect this much snow, so, what are the challenges this morning? >> well, martha, we've ended up with the second largest amount of snow in the history of this city, going back a century and a half. and you're right, the original estimates were for half that much. i have to say, our city workers did an amazing job and the people of new york city, they get credit, too, they heeded the travel ban we put in place, which allowed our sanitation workers to get out and clear the streets. our first responders to move around. so, things in most of the city are pretty good now. we still have some areas that we have to do a lot more work on.
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but we have come through it pretty well. >> so, how long do you think new york city will feel the effects, that snow could be there for a long, long time, those giant piles? >> well, yeah, i think today is going to be a very intense cleanup day, and i have to emphasize, people are going to have to stay off the streets. there isn't a travel ban anymore. but the smart thing is to do is stay off the streets. i think tomorrow's going to be pretty good. we'll be broadly up and running tomorrow as a city. you're right, the snowplows will be with us for a while. >> well, that's good news for everybody up there and here. i want to ask you a quick question about one of your city's famous residents -- >> which one, martha? >> i know you is a lot of them. you'll recognize this one. listen to what donald trump said about his candidacy yesterday. >> i could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and not lose any voters, okay? it's like, incredible.
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>> got any reaction to that, mayor? >> it's incredibly insensitive. we're dealing with a surge in gun violence. for someone who says he wants to be president to say that, it's not presidential and it's incredible arrogant. you know, this is another indicator that donald trump is not ready for primetime. >> and the reaction to the possibility that former mayor michael bloomberg might get into the race. another new york billionaire. >> well, i respect my predecessor for sure. two things i say. my candidate is hillary clinton. i realbly believe she'll be the next president of the united states. and the second thing is, i don't think the people of this country want to give more power to billionaires at this point. i think that what this election is increasingly about. how do address income inequality. i don't think most americans think billionaires are the ones who are going to help us give us a more fair economy.
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>> okay, thank you for joining us. mayor bill deblasio. >> thank you. now we turn to the political chaos engulfing the 2016 race, with only a week to go before the first votes are cast, the candidates are scrambling all over iowa this morning. and we're right there with them. abc news' devin dwyer is right there covering the gop race and we begin with abc's cecilia vega, live in davenport, tracking bernie sanders' surge ahead of hillary clinton in the latest iowa polls. cecilia. >> martha, good morning to you. here it is right on the front page of "the des moines register," this is what the candidates are waking up to, that coveted endorsement. hillary clinton right there. this might be the brightest spot in what has been a very tough week for her. that new poll showing bernie sanders leading clinton. at 43%, that's her lowest support in iowa so far. it wasn't necessarily a ringing endorsement.
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the paper said she's, quote, not a perfect candidate. as coveted as this is, listen to this -- no democrat with this endorsement has ever gone on to winn either iowa or the party nomination. i have been following both camps as they cross the state. i can tell you the attacks have been swift, they have been fierce, they have been nonstop. just yesterday, both clinton and sanders had dueling events a few blocks away from each other, in clinton, iowa. the sanders' event was packed. as many as 800 people there. he was confident, he was on the offensive. clinton campaign had a packed event, too, about 450 people. she did, though, repeat a line that she's been using a lot over the last few days. talking about getting knocked down and getting back up again. both campaigns are telling me it's all boils down the next eight days to the ground game. using these teams, getting people out to caucus. the gop race just as tight on that side. for that we turn to my colleague devin dwyer who's in des moines this morning.
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devin, good morning to you. >> thanks, cecilia. this incredible republican campaign is down to the wire. so close in fact for the first time last night, both front-runners spent the night in iowa. ted cruz, this morning, taking the day off before he finishes visiting all 99 counties. donald trump is headed to church, but the top talker here, how personal and negative this fight has become. trump overnight said he would not vote for cruz if he wins. trump also began running his first negative tv ad hitting cruz on immigration. cruz is fighting back. >> if donald trump wins it's going to be a snowball to hell. >> i was at that rally, martha, and i can tell you the cruz's case against trump is getting sharper, it's electrifying his supporters. their headquarters
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are placing 15,000 calls a day, but the big question here is, will those huge crowds for trump actually turn out to caucus? his iowa operation of course has been untraditional. and there's the underdog, marco rubio getting endorsed this morning by "the des moines register." rubio trails in the polls here. worth noting, in every election in the last 20 years, the register has endorsed the republican candidate who went on to win the nomination. martha? >> thanks, devin. the supercharged battle playing out this morning over whether donald trump should be the new face of the republican party, just got even more intense. the billionaire, now, taking his feud with jeb bush, the one-time favorite of the gop establishment to a whole new level this weekend and governor bush joins me now. good morning, governor. i want to begin with that endorsement, calling marco rubio the party's best hope. the paper has a pretty strong record to giving the nod to the eventual nominee.
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>> well, i would have loved to have "the des moines register" endorsement. i didn't get it. congratulations to marco. ultimately it's the caucus goers that decide this and voters in new hampshire and south carolina and nevada to start all this off. i'm confident when we get to that, the pundits might be surprised. >> let's talk about the front-runners right now, you have a party that can't even decide who not to support among the front-runners. "the national review' with that anti-trump issue. bob dole has endorsed you, is saying trump could probably work with congress because he's, you know, he's got the right personality and he's kind of a dealmaker. it sounds like he's supporting donald trump, what is this doing to your party and your candidacy? >> look, bob dole is -- i'm proud to have his support. but here's the deal, donald trump is not a conservative. you need a conservative to lead the conservative party into the
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general election. he's not a conservative based on whether gun rights or abortion or taxes or spending or a single-payer system for health care and you can't insult your way to the presidency, either. he view this as a strength. and we're not going to win an election by preying on people's angst and their fears and by insulting people. we have to get to 50. you do that with a solid conservative record with conservative ideas to change the course of direction in washington, d.c. >> do you think people will -- do you think trump would work better with congress than cruz? >> all i know we need a president to work with congress and right now we don't have that. that's what i pledged to do, to build consensus, to fix the taxes, the regulation that is a complete mess for our country. to begin to build a bipartisan consensus on foreign policy again, where america's leadership in the world creates peace and security.
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those are the things that i talk about and it seems to be resonating not amongst the punditry class but amongst voters. >> you know, in an article this weekend and you talk about trump. "the weekly standard" says that you and the superpac that supports you bears some of the blame for the rise of donald trump. saying right to rise like an all-pro right guard helped clear a path for trump by blocking several of his would-be tacklers in particular marco rubio. with each passing day, it becomes more and more likely that the lasting legacy of jeb bush's 2016 presidential will be its prom note role in making donald trump the nominee and contributing to the crisis of conservatism that will follow. >> hey, martha, i'm the only guy taking on trump on. because i don't believe that he's a conservative and, my life commitment to the conservative cause is going to be validated
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by having a guy be our nominee who's not a conservative. who doesn't believe in a hopeful, optimistic message. so, the weekly standard can say what they want. but i'm the only guy who consistently goes after him. i'll continue to do it as i advocate my plans. >> and word yesterday that former mayor of new york michael bloomberg might getting into the race as an independent. >> look, he's a great man. he was a great mayor. he's much more liberal than i am, but he's a great person. i don't think he'll get in the race unless it's donald trump and bernie sanders, probably. but that's way off into the future. right now, we're focused on eight days of getting our caucus voters out. >> i want to move to some of the domestic issues. let's talk about what's going on
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in flint, michigan, the city of hundreds of thousands of americans have been bathing, brushing their teeth in lead-contaminated water, while government officials were telling them it's safe to use. kids exposed to lead. they'll need millions of dollars of care for the rest of their lives. how is this possible in the united states of america and who's responsible? >> it is horrific and it is related to the fact that we have created this complex, no-responsibility regulatory system where the federal government, the state government, regional government, local and county governments are all pointing fingers at each other. it is a tragedy. what we need to do is have a 21st century set of rules. there should be transparency. >> how much blame does government snyder bear? >> we need government leaders to take steps -- well, he's taken responsibility and i admire that. he's not saying it's someone else's fault.
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he's rolling up his sleeves and trying to deal with this. he has a responsibility and he's admitted it. >> should he resign? >> no, he needs to do what he's doing, which is to accept responsibility and begin to solve the problem. >> you once called him a spectacular governor, do you still think so? >> i think he's been a great governor for michigan, michigan was on its knees when he became governor and he's led to a rebound and forged consensus. i think he's doing a good job in that regard. but this is a tragedy that we ought to focus instead of blaming people, what he's doing is creating a strategy to fix it because it's a complete disaster. >> it's hard to fix, the health care of those children at this point. but we thank you very much, governor bush. best of luck to you. next, our "closer" look at the gop in crisis, inside the fight for the future of the republican party. how the brawl for the party's soul will impact who comes out ahead in iowa. plus, senator bernie sanders is here, could he deliver early-state upsets to hillary
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as the reality sets in that the republican nominee could really be an outsider, it's an all-out civil war inside the republican party.
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nearly two dozen leading conservative thinkers banding together against trump in the latest edition of "national review." while others, like bob dole, warming up to the billionaire, saying he could at least work with congress. trump, embraced the newfound support. >> and you know what, there's a point at which, let's get to be the establishment. we got to get things done. >> george caught up with senator ted cruz on his campaign bus in new hampshire this week and asked the texas senator about why he prefers not to have the support of dole or anyone else in washington? >> you seemed to actually welcome the attack from bob dole, but how about the argument he's making? he said he believes your candidacy, if you're the nominee is going to cause cataclysmic losses. >> you know what,
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he omitted two words, from what he wanted to say, nobody in washington doesn't like cruz. >> that doesn't bother you? >> the biggest divide we got in this country politically it's not between republicans and democrats. it's between career politicians in washington in both parties and the american people. >> somewhere, a lot of republicans are coming around to the idea donald trump would be a more electable nominee -- >> it's not a question of electability, listen to what they're saying. you're right that what we're saying, the washington establishment is abandoning marco rubio and they're rushing to donald trump and they have explained why. bob dole yesterday explained why. he said donald trump is someone we can make a deal with, we can cut a deal, we can work with him. and, listen, if you're someone in this country who thinks we need more republicans in washington to cut a deal with the democrats, to agree with harry reid and nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, then you ought to vote for donald trump.
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>> and joining us now, rich lowry editor of the national review and the man behind that controversial cover and the orchestrated effort to take down the billionaire and republican alex castellanos, a campaign strategist to bob dole, george bush and mitt romney, who thought about blocking trump but then had a change of heart. good morning to you both. >> good morning, martha. >> rich, is ted cruz correct there, you saw that interview with george, has donald trump become the establishment candidate? >> yeah, the reason, martha, we did this issue, we wanted to make two points. number one, donald trump is not a conservative. and two, we wanted to make the point, it's not the so-called establishment that's opposing trump -- in fact, as we speak, you have elements of the political establishments among republicans hiding under their desk, figuring out how they can
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co-op or deal with donald trump. we wanted to make the people principal conservatives oppose trump. we want to win this election. we want to do it with a conservative and we think we can. >> rich, you wrote this morning, this is what "national review" exists to do, to plant the flag for conservatism, have you missed your chance, has trump led for too long? >> i object the notion because he's at 30% at the polls. before anyone has actually voted in a caucus or a primary that this thing is effectively over. look, we knew we could get a lot of blowback from this issue. we knew that donald trump would call us a loser. it's particularly rich that donald trump invoked william f. buckley and said buckley would be ashamed of what we have done. when actually, buckley wrote about donald trump in 2000, he called him a narcissist. >> alex, you have a different
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take, at the beginning of the month, you tried to get an anti-trump thing going, you had no takers. is the gop going to have to live with a trump nominee? is rich wrong? >> as much as i love "national review," i think they have shown up at the war long after the last shots have been fired here. they're telling the republican party to pull its ripcord long after we have hit the ground and gone splat. seven days to go before the iowa caucus and national review saying, we should be the party of ronald reagan not donald trump. that's great. and i checked, reagan is not on the ballot. the choices we have been left with, ted cruz who has thrown the conservative cause under the bus for his own political gain many times, and donald trump who some voters are beginning to see as well, he's not ronald reagan, he's not the long-term future of the republican party, but maybe he's the turnaround ceo, the interim leader who can clean up
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our books, keep the country from going bankrupt. and stop the russians from kicking sand in our face -- >> alex, you wrote just months ago that trump was a power-hungry strong man, why is suddenly the man the gop should trust? >> well, i wrote actually last august, what rich is saying in "national review" is not news. i wrote trump is a strong man we don't need in august of last year. and since then, have worked to find alternatives. guess what, we don't have any. and whose fault is that? i think a lot of the fault actually becomes to conservative intellectual leadership of america. that you see in this issue of "national review." with the conservative cause that animates the republican party, we don't appeal to young people or millennials. we don't appeal to minorities. we appeal to only cranky old white guys like me. >> i want to ask both of you
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quickly, alex, who's the nominee going to be on the republican side? >> right now, it looks like it's going to be donald trump. by the way, if he's against hillary clinton i would probably support him. >> rich? >> i have no idea. i hope it won't be donald trump. there are good conservatives in this contest. don't surrender, alex, to trump just because you couldn't muster these republican donors to go with you because they're too -- conservatives are going to standup. we are going to stand up. don't surrender to donald trump before a shot has been fired. >> that's a perfect way to end. gentlemen, thanks very much for those shots fired. next, the case on the democratic side. bernie sanders joins us live as he takes the edge in iowa and new hampshire. can he pull off an amazing upset? plus, the powerhouse
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he started in single digits in the polls and now bernie sanders could take down the once-inevitable hillary clinton. senator sanders joins us live next. once-inevitable hillary clinton. senator sanders joins us live next.
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attack to republicans. is he already looking ahead to the general election? senator sanders joins me now from iowa. good morning, senator sanders. "the des moines register" has endorsed your opponent, hillary clinton, saying, the presidency is not an entry-level position, whoever is sworn into office next january must demonstrate not only a deep understanding of the issues facing america, but also possess the diplomatic skills that enable presidents to forge alliances to get things done. even though "the des moines register" has never endorsed a democrat who has won, that seems directed at you. >> well, you know, i have a lot of respect for "the des moines register." but i think, in every instance, we're more than capable of doing the job of president of the united states. when we talk about foreign policy, let us be very clear, one of the candidates
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running voted against this disastrous war in iraq. go to youtube and find out what i said in 2002 and feared what happened. much of what i feared in terms of what would happen did happen. hillary clinton voted the other way. in terms of domestic issues, the reason that our campaign is generating so much excitement is that we're focusing on the issues that american people care about and that is the decline of the middle class, people are working longer hours for lower wages. income and wealth is going to top 1% and that income inequality is sustained by a corrupt campaign finance system. martha -- i'm very proud of the fact that -- >> senator sanders, i want to go back to what you said on foreign policy. the concord paper is endorsing hillary clinton as well. they said you're a foreign policy -- >> look, for a start, we're taking on the entire establishment. we're taking on the economic
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establishment. we're taking on the political establishment. in all due respect, we're taking on the media establishment. i expect that secretary clinton will get a lot of the endorsements from mainstream media. but i have the endorsement of 2.5 million individual contributions to my campaign. when people are allowed to vote, as they are in, we win those votes overwhelming from the grassroots of america. so, martha, i can't argue that the establishment is supporting secretary clinton, that's the way it is. >> senator sanders -- >> -- saying it's too late for the establishment. >> you have sounded more and more confident in aiming your remarks at republicans as you said. but clinton supporters have focused on you as nonviable general election candidate largely because you're a socialist -- senator mccaskill said the republicans won't touch him because they can't wait to run an ad with a hammer and sickle. your reaction? >> my reaction is two things.
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look at every -- virtually all of the national polls that have been done, that has bernie sanders running against trump. hillary clinton running against trump. we run significantly better than does hillary clinton. we're beating him by a wider margin. last nbc poll had us beating him by 16 points. in new hampshire, we're doing even better than that, we're doing better than hillary clinton here in iowa. second of all, democrats win when voter turnout is large. republicans win when the american people are demoralized. our campaign is exciting millions of people. we will have a large voter turnout. i think we cannot only win the white house but we regain the senate and win governor chairs up and down this country. i think this campaign is about who's exciting the american people. i think our campaign is, martha. >> senator sanders, you said something to your suppotters yesterday that caught my ear,
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you quoted with pride a "wall street journal" article calling you a viable candidate, saying, it appears that we are making wall street a little bit nervous and that's a good thing. the article was quoting the blackstone ceo, who said the markets are unsettled because of you, a slowdown in china and geopolitical risks. you're laughing. but i want to know, why is it a good thing that markets are in turmoil? >> first of all, martha -- >> it's not just wall street. everybody's affected by this. >> the reason that i am laughing is i fully admit to having a big ego, like many other politicians. but the idea that bernie sanders' candidacy, because it has growing support all over this country is unsettling world markets is absolutely absurd. the point that i was making is we are getting the attention of wall street. wall street's greed and recklessness and illegal behavior drove this economy into the worst recession since the great depression.
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millions of people lost their homes, their life savings and their jobs. and, yes, i believe we have to break up the major financial institutions. we now gaining the attention of wall street, tells me that our campaign is doing very well. >> what do you think about the possibility of former mayor michael bloomberg getting in the race? another billionaire. >> well, you know, i think it would be very interesting if donald trump became the republican candidate, who's a multibillionaire, and michael bloomberg became an independent candidate, who's a multibillionaire, and it will tell people of this country is moving away from democracy to oliocracy. >> okay, thank you for joining us this morning, senator sanders.
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good to see you again. >> thank you. and now, let's bring in the powerhouse roundtable. with me, republican pollster kristen soltis-anderson, michael eric dyson, professor of sociology at georgetown university. former michigan governor jennifer granholm and steve inskeep. co-host of npr's morning edition. so much to talk about. let's talk about bernie sanders and the democrats. steve, let me start with you. polls this week showing bernie sanders beating hillary clinton. and widening his lead in new hampshire. clinton has come out fighting. her supporters are questioning his viability. is he a viable candidate, will that work? >> well, he's the situation, bill clinton, when campaigning for his wife the other day, made
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a rather perceptive point, in which he said -- he was dissing bernie sanders by saying, sanders has simpler slogans. but he's also though admitting to hillary clinton's problem. if you look at an issue to public education just to take an example, sanders has a very simple talking point, he wants to make public colleges and universities free for everyone. hillary clinton wants to make college more affordable but still wants people to pay. it's a different philosophy, really, and it's a little bit harder to talk about and you can see a situation where sanders, with that simpler slogan, with that more direct approach, is more in that moment. he's more about this moment as donald trump is. now, does that translate to support ultimately? i don't know. >> how about the charges he's a socialist? that, the hammer and sickle. not quite the socialist. >> well, i would say -- first of all, one, i don't buy the premise that she's losing to bernie sanders in iowa. if you look at the godfather of
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all predictions who is nate silver, he gives her an 84% chance of winning iowa. there are headwinds in new hampshire. i will also say that the socialist label is something that he applies to himself, right, so the question is, how does that play across america. the governor of missouri tough state, middle of the road state, what they know is the same thing that the republicans know when in the last debate the republicans kept cheering bernie sanders on social media is that the word "socialist" is a really hard word. i love bernie sanders, really, i appreciate the fact that he's bringing out young people. if you look at the word socialist the gallup poll did an analysis, what are the characteristics you would vote for in a president? would you vote for a mormon? would you vote for a jew? would you vote for an atheist -- excuse me, a socialist? it's even less popular than voting for -- it's an issue.
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>> so, hillary clinton is saying, socialist, socialist, socialist, as they're saying that, but if she loses to a socialist, what does that do to her? >> yeah, well, it's tough sledding to be sure. i don't think that the major prohibition -- the major obstacle for bernie sanders is going to be necessarily socialist label, because he's tracking so well among people who feel that we tried the republicans, the democrats, the regular people, and they're not doing very well for us. i think the question is, how does hillary clinton tap into the kind of class consciousness and so much the racial rebellion that's out there and figure out a way to engage it and exploit it in the best sense of the word usefully as bernie sanders is making an attempt. but on the other hand, i think that polling is probably misrepresentative of the larger outside poll. >> i want to ask kristen about one thing, young people have
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been -- since you're the young person here, sorry -- young people have been a driving force behind the sanders' surge, look at these numbers. why don't they consider his support socialism a liability? the monmouth university national poll registered voters who identify themselves as democrats or lean toward the democratic party. clinton 52%. sanders 37%. o'malley, 2%. sanders, 81%. clinton, 18%. >> bernie sanders doesn't sound like a typical politician. whether it was bernie sanders in this election, or rand paul in the last election. these candidates don't sound young and cool, but they sound very different and they sound very authentic. voters particularly younger voters find that to appealing. i don't think that the socialist label is not necessarily going to do in bernie sanders. young republicans, young voters rather don't really remember the cold war or the soviet union. so, when we talk about the hammer and sickle in the ad --
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>> but they remember that simon and garfunkel song. >> but there's a mom in flint who's not going to wait for the revolution to be able to give her child clean water. there is a guy in cleveland who lost his job is not going to be able to wait for the revolution. you'll have to wait, even if you brought in a senate, he wouldn't bring in a house, getting stuff done is the thing that moves me, that makes -- that gives me goosebumps. if you want to talk free college for all -- her response, why would we give donald trump's kids free college? i have a plan that's workable for real people and i'm going to work to get it done. >> okay, we'll pick up on that in just a minute. because we have more important things to do. our "powerhouse puzzler," very appropriate for this snowy weekend. and one year since inauguration. so, which president holds the record for both the coldest and warmest inauguration dates? bonus points if you can guess
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the temperatures. >> announcer: the "powerhouse puzzler" is brought to you by voya financial. financial. and we're back with the
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answer to our "powerhouse puzzler," which president holds the record for both the coldest and warmest inauguration dates. kristen, you're up. >> i said reagan. coldest 15 degrees. warmest, 40. >> wow. those are impressive stats. >> those are impressive. >> a good guess. it was really cold. i said obama. >> both cold. i asked fdr. >> all three of you can leave. kristen. >> the answer is ronald reagan. anyone want to guess the temperatures? you did. the coldest was 1985 when the morning low was 4 degrees below zero. the warmest was in 1981 when it was a balmy 55 degrees. you were very close. >> republican inside knowledge. >> okay.
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now we're going to switch to the gop. struggle we saw this week for the heart of the gop, let's just go right to it and steve, inskeep, eight days from now the real test for the candidates. the poll out of iowa friday gives trump the commanding lead in iowa. if trump wins iowa does he become the party nominee? >> i don't think that's assured. maybe ted cruz wins somewhere. but somebody like jeb bush has a problem. kristen has been very insightful about this. he's arguing that donald trump isn't a conservative. his supporters may not care. >> how about that support they got. glenn beck saturday. donald trump endorsed by sarah palin which made for some very interesting front pages. if either is a nominee, what will these endorsements do for the general election? >> whether it's donald trump or ted cruz, i don't think the endorsements mean much. for ted cruz, his support comes much more from tea party-type
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folks, the folks who get concerned about the things that jeb bush brought up earlier today. about trump not being a true conservative. trump's support comes from the populous wing of the party. from sarah palin. there's this big divide on the right. >> mike, very quickly, 20 seconds. >> look, jeb bush keeps saying he's not a true conservative. but the conservatives don't care. donald trump has managed to galvanize an entire range of people outside of the republican party. it may be telling when it comes to election time. >> way to stay inside time. thanks to all of you.
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it is called an alive day, and this week our abc colleagues and friends, correspondent bob woodruff and cameraman doug vogt will celebrate their tenth alive day. it is hard to believe that it was ten years ago that bob and doug were badly injured by a roadside bomb in iraq. there's rarely a day when i don't think about that when i walk into abc news. because that morning after somewhat encouraging calls, i got a call saying that bob might not make it. just as i was heading into the building to join george on this program to deliver the news of the bombing. >> good morning, everyone.
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we have to begin today with some news that has hit close to home for all us here at abc. bob woodruff and his cameraman doug vogt were reporting today from iraq when their convoy was hit by an i.e.d. >> bob and doug were in a convoy with u.s. military from the 4th infantry division. the i.e.d. went off. both immediately injured. both have injuries to the head. we delivered just the facts. but at that moment, in a small combat hospital so far away, military surgeons were removing part of bob's skull to relieve the pressure on his brain. once stabilized both bob and doug would begin the journey thousands and thousands of our wounded service members have taken through landstuhl, germany, and then finally to bethesda medical center here at home. for nearly 40 days bob lay in a coma, his wife lee, their four
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children and extended family at his side. then slowly and miraculously -- >> he is one special guy. >> after multiple surgeries to rebuild his skull, an intense cognitive therapy -- bob was well on his way to recovery. >> good evening, i'm bob woodruff. >> remarkably just over a year later, bob was back on the air. and since has spent the last decade reporting from around the globe, from inside north korea. >> we're told that 10,000 to 15,000 have actually come here. >> to deep down a colombian mine. >> that is about the most frightened i have been. >> but through it all, bob never forgot what the military had done for him. who treated him like one of their own. bob and lee have devoted their lives to helping our wounded veterans and the families who
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support them. the bob woodruff foundation, with its annual stand up to heroes gala in new york, has raised more than $30 million. reaching more than 2 million of our veterans and families. and i'm proud to be part of that organization and proud that bob woodruff joins me now from his latest assignment, beijing, where he began his career. happy alive day, my friend and of course to doug who continues to shoot beautiful video for abc. bob, i just want your thoughts on this anniversary. >> well, you know, it's been -- it's hard to believe it's been ten years. this time has flown past so quickly, so quickly -- i mean, we -- i got so many friends, i talked to my other teammates to celebrate this as well. and i think we just feel -- just so lucky really to be here at
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all and to be here, martha, you have been such a huge supporter from the very beginning. all of us love you. >> let's talk about those wounded veterans that you have helped. it's really remarkable how much you and lee have done and what that's meant for you and your own recovery. >> you know, i think i'll never forget that story. i was in a coma for five weeks as you know, and my wife told me later on that, on that same floor, there was an another marine that, while we were surrounded by our family and friends, but there was no family members or friends surrounding him and she said to herself and to my brothers as well, they said, when we're done with this, let's do something so it doesn't happen. all of our medical care was the same. the surgeons, these nurses were amazing. but in terms of how to deal with them when they go back to their
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communities, they fit in again and they do that transition well, we got to do some organization. martha, as you also know, this is probably the most fulfilling move ig thing i have ever done in my life. there are good things and bad things that come out of tragedy. this is a good thing. >> the most fulfilling for me. bob woodruff, thank you very much for joining us, my friend, this morning. that's all for us today. thanks for sharing part of your sunday with us. check out "world news tonight" and we'll see you back here next week. have a great day. next week. have a great day.
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>> in the news, fire destroys a vacant home. what firefighters say happened when they arrived at the scene. plus, a huge about storm hits the east coast. we will have a live report on how people are coping with the historic snowfall. >> good morning. live from our emeryville camera, temperatures barely the 50 degrees this morning. isolates certainly a colder start. we will get some rain for a while and then a break, but it will return at the end of the week.
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