>> that stupid desk. and it was bugging me. i mean, it was a nice piece of furniture, and i really wanted to get it back. and she pretty much said, you left, you're not getting it. >> he never did get it. that roll top was still in karen's condo in oldsmar on the night she was stabbed to death. now detective holbrook pointedly wanted to know if roc had been there too. >> he said where were you on such and such a day, and i'm like, well, first of all, i'll have to look at the calendar, because i don't know where i was that day, but i guarantee you i wasn't in oldsmar. so we go from there to discussing where i was, who i've been with, where i've, where i lived. >> so you're getting a serious grilling. >> right. he ends up telling me that we found your name in blood on the wall. >> roc. >> yeah. so obviously i'm a suspect. and i acknowledge that. i mine, i'm looking at murder.