tv Late Night With Seth Meyers NBC July 15, 2016 12:37am-1:38am PDT
[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- kristen wiig, from "ice age: collision course," actress keke palmer, author gay talese, featuring the 8g band with thomas lang. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers. >> seth: good evening. i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." how's everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] yeah. good to hear. in that case, let's get to the news. a new report says that former secretary of state
condoleezza rice recently rejected an offer from donald trump to be his running mate. when trump's people asked why she rejected the offer, she said, "for the last time, i'm whoopi goldberg." [ laughter ] former house speaker, potential republican v.p. pick newt gingrich praised donald trump in a new interview and said he gets things done. can't argue with that. trump casino, done. [ light laughter ] trump steaks, done. trump university, done. newt gingrich praised donald trump in a new interview and said he's like a figure out of the movie. yeah, he's kind of like the guy in a movie who wants to tear down the rec center and then the teens have to have a dance contest to save it. [ laughter ] and then during that big, final dance number, he kind of catches himself bopping to the music, then looks around to make sure nobody saw him. he's that guy. or he's the monkey from "outbreak." [ laughter ] bernie sanders tweeted earlier today that in a democratic society, politics should not be treated like a baseball game or a soap opera.
or at least he thought he tweeted it. [ laughter ] [ as bernie ] "and i just yell the tweet into which slot? which is for the outgoing tweets?" [ light laughter ] a new survey shows that donald trump is polling at zero percent among black voters in ohio and pennsylvania. [ light laughter ] i don't know. that seems a little high. [ laughter ] today was national hotdog day and to celebrate, donald trump spent a few hours on the rollers at 7-eleven to work on his color. [ laughter and applause ] police in new york this week refused to arrest a man seen slapping his penis against a subway pillar, despite complaints from other commuters, because he actually made it cleaner. [ audience groans ]
[ light laughter ] "arrest that man." "he is providing a public service. [ laughter ] if everybody had their genitals out against these pillars, it would be spick- and-span." [ light laughter ] and finally, planned parenthood has unveiled a new pokémon character of their own design which promotes safe sex and is shaped like an unrolled condom. of course, it only works if you haven't already caught them all. [ laughter and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, we have a great show for you tonight. my dear friend, my old colleague, one of the stars of the new "ghostbusters", kristen wiig is here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] she is the voice of peaches the woolly mammoth in "ice age's" "collision course," keke palmer is here this evening. [ cheers and applause ] and he is a legend, he is also the author of the new book, "the voyeur's motel." gay talese is here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] i can't tell you how excited i am to talk to him. before we get to all that, the republican national convention
is next week. and while conventions are usually pretty boring, this one promises to be much more exciting for two reasons. one, it's donald trump, and two, it could be a total disaster. for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ [ applause ] >> seth: now, usually conventions are tightly-run events planned well in advance, but when it comes to this year's gop convention, there are tons of questions, even including who trump's running mate will be. a question the media has been absolutely obsessed with. >> speculation is growing about the trump veepstakes. >> we got a major shakeup in the trump veepstakes. >> a lot kind of happening this morning in the world of trump veepstakes. >> the donald trump veepstakes. >> the donald trump veepstakes. >> the donald trump veepstakes. >> seth: trump veepstakes, the second [ bleep ] brand of steaks with the trump name on them. [ laughter and applause ] now, the reporting today suggests trump is likely to pick indiana governor mike pence as the v.p. nominee. pence would probably speak at the convention on wednesday, which is notable because that makes him one of the few
prominent republicans willing to speak at all. >> politico reached out to 50 prominent republicans, most of whom said they will not attend the convention, let alone speak there. >> four of the last five republican presidential nominees are now skipping the gop convention. >> 16 gop senators are skipping it. >> ohio governor john kasich plans to appear at nearly 20 events around cleveland next week, but despite an intense lobbying effort from the trump campaign and rnc officials, a kasich adviser still pegs the odds of him appearing at the convention somewhere between zilch and zero. [ light laughter ] >> seth: incidentally, "somewhere between zilch and zero" is where john kasich finished in the polls. [ laughter ] still none of them went as far in their refusal to attend the convention as trump critic and nebraska republican senator ben sasse. >> a spokesman for senator ben sasse told a reporter with "the hill" this. get this -- "senator sasse will not be attending the convention and will instead take his kids to
watch some dumpster fires across the state." [ laughter ] >> seth: wow, nobody lives up to their name quite like ben sasse. [ light laughter ] i'm surprised he didn't end his statement with, "okay, girl?" [ light laughter ] but sorry, sasse, trump doesn't care about boring old politicians. he wants celebrities. in fact, trump has been courting celebrities from the sports world to speak at the convention, specifically naming people like tom brady and ben roethlisberger. both of those guys later said they would not speak at the convention or even attend at all. so if trump couldn't get brady or roethlisberger, who did he get? >> the list of gop convention speakers has just been released and former jets quarterback tim tebow, known for his very conservative views, he will speak on day four. >> seth: that's right. trump wanted tom brady but got tim tebow. he's like a guy who slept through his fantasy football draft, so his buddies picked his roster. [ laughter ] "who's my running back? dame judi dench?! come on, dudes!" [ light laughter ] so neither presidents nor athletes want to go to the
convention. and apparently, neither do some gop insiders who are getting pretty morbid about the state of their party. >> in the year of trump, republicans are racing for the exits. it's as if the emerald city suddenly turned into chernobyl. one congressional staffer even predicted, "it is going to resemble a funeral for a relative everyone hates." >> republican operative named will ritter told politico, quote, "i would rather attend the public hanging of a good friend." [ audience ohs ] >> seth: "do you have any last words?" "yeah, hey, kevin, are you only here because you didn't want to trump's convention? thanks for the support at my public hanging." so presidents, senators, and athletes have all declined to speak and republicans are dreading going. but at least when it comes to the party's platform, the document that spells out the party's official positions on issues, republicans can put aside the infighting and focus on the issues that matter, right? >> the republican party will declare internet pornography a public health crisis. under an amendment added to the
draft party platform, the provision says pornography, with its harmful effects, has become a public health crisis that is destroying the lives of millions. the amendment passed with little debate. >> seth: it passed with little debate? there isn't one republican who might want to speak up in favor of pornography? because that's the nominee. [ laughter ] interesting fact, before "playboy" asked trump to be on the cover, he thought it was a mail-order catalog. [ as trump ] "yeah, i'd like the one on page 73. yes. the one on the hay bale." [ laughter ] but that wasn't even the weirdest platform change the republicans debated, because they also approved an amendment that opposed including prairie chickens on a federal list of endangered animals. that's right. republicans are now anti-prairie chicken, despite it being the only chicken with donald trump's ball sack on its head. [ audience groans ] [ light laughter ] [ laughter ] i mean -- now, trump also managed to get his signature issue, the mexican
border wall, into the official gop platform. but even on that issue, there's been some discord, with one prominent trump backer suggesting the wall might not actually happen in the way trump supporters are imagining. when asked this week if the wall would actually be built and paid for by mexico, former texas governor rick perry said, quote, "well, it's not. it's a wall. but it's a technological wall. it's a digital wall." man, ever since rick perry put on those glasses, he's turned into jeff golblum in "independence day." [ laughter ] [ as golblum ] "it's, um, it's not a real wall you see. it's a metaphorical wall. and the thing about metaphorical walls, is you don't know if it's keeping you out or it's keeping you in." [ laughter ] so the platform's kind of a mess, no one wants to go, a large number of delegates don't back trump, and there are going to be massive protests. how can this looming disaster get any worse? >> cleveland police and the secret service are expected to give an update on security preparations for next week's republican national convention. in ohio, citizens are allowed to openly carry legally-owned firearms. >> seth: oh, good, guns! great.
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back and please give it up for the 8g band, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] also, all week long we've had another incredible drummer sitting in with the band, thomas lang is right over there. >> thank you. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: thomas recently launched an immersive drum education website featuring hundreds of instructional videos that you can stream any time from any device. be sure to check that out over at thomaslangsdrumuniverse.com. thank you for such a great week thomas. >> thank you. >> seth: please come back any time. >> thank you. thank you. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: our first guest tonight is an oscar and emmy award nominee. who you know from her work on "snl" and the hit film "bridesmaids." she stars in the highly anticipated "ghostbusters" which opens tomorrow in theaters and imax 3-d. let's take a look. >> do you see that? the eyes. >> all right folks, we know that continuing this will -- >> no. >> that is unsettling. >> hey patty? can i get some illumination on this subject? >> yeah, i can put some light on that. ♪ >> oh! >> oh, boy.
where are these ghosts coming from? >> we're taking this pretty boy back to the lab. >> holtzmann? >> yup? >> power us up. >> okay. gonna plug these things in here. okay. erin, come here. >> we vacuum with this. >> why am i operating the untested nuclear laser? >> you have the longest arms. this is just a little bit of grounding so you don't die immediately. >> you have done this before, right? >> right. >> aim, fire. >> oh, what, what? >> seth: please welcome back to the show my very good friend, kristen wiig. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: hi! >> hi. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: so happy to have you
here. >> oh, i'm happy to be here. >> seth: and i'm so delighted that, not only that i'm seeing you now, but we're gonna spend the weekend together. >> yeah, well that sounds -- >> seth: sounds wonderful. >> it sounds good. >> seth: but i should say with my entire wife's family. >> with -- yes. >> seth: and let's just be honest. >> it's the only time i see you. >> seth: it is. and let's be honest, something happened last summer, you were doing "ghostbusters" in boston. >> yeah. >> seth: you came and spent a weekend with my wife's family and you are now better friends with my father-in-law than you are with me. >> yes. >> seth: yeah. >> seth: but only because you shared -- >> i don't thin that's true. >> seth: like you'll go paddle boarding with him. >> yes. >> seth: you'll paint with him. >> yes. >> seth: i don't -- nothing he -- he and i have no shared interests. >> but you did paint your first -- isn't that your first painting? >> seth: i did a painting. it was my first painting. but i only did that because i was jealous of his love for you. [ laughter ] >> that's not true. >> seth: so now i'm doing things i don't want to be doing to try to -- >> but are you happy? >> seth: i'm happier. >> you're happier. >> seth: i am happier. >> he's a -- >> seth: and our dogs got to hang out. your dog moose. >> yes. >> seth: muse. >> muse. as the french call her. yeah, moose and frisbee had a little love affair. >> seth: a love affair. but moose, i heard moose got lost. your dog, moose, got lost. >> yeah, she's -- i found her, but it was the scariest, like -- >> seth: how long was she lost?
>> five hours. >> seth: five hours. okay. that's still terrifying. >> no, it was scary because someone -- >> seth: where was this? in l.a.? >> she was at my boyfriend's parents' house. >> seth: okay. >> in costa mesa and like ran to a park. and this lady's like, "yeah, some lady took her." and is was like, "what?" and never called and it was, like, a very -- >> seth: so how did you find her? >> these cops were driving down the street and we were like, "we should just ask the police something." >> seth: uh-huh. >> 'cause i didn't know what to do. i was like crying. it was awful. and they're like, "i don't know, we can look in our -- we can call it in." they had like a little screen. and up popped like lost dog. wiry. and i was like, "wiry? she's not wiry." [ laughter ] and then the cops were like, "can we get a picture?" and i was like, "sure." and they were like, "we weren't going to ask you if we didn't find the dog. but we found the dog so can we have a picture?" >> seth: that would have been really -- >> terrible. like just -- >> seth: oh, yeah, because you'd just gone through a dog cry. >> i just -- it was -- but we got her back. >> seth: that would have been the most divaish move if you wouldn't have taken a picture. >> if i was like, " i'm sorry." >> seth: "i'm sorry.
thank you for finding my dog, but i don't do pictures." [ laughter ] >> that would have been bad. >> seth: yeah. did you punish moose? >> i punished her severely. >> seth: how do you punish a moose? >> i made her clean the house. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] i think we actually have a photo. >> we have a photo of her. >> seth: now, because a lot of people would say that's impossible, you can't make a dog clean the house. >> no, but she -- >> seth: she's very well trained. >> i've trained her to do so in case she -- [ laughter ] see the little rag. >> seth: yeah. she's got a little rag. >> got a little rag. she looks so upset. >> seth: and now, that rag is so little, that must take so long for her to clean the house. [ laughter ] >> yes, well, she ran away. she deserves it. >> seth: yeah. and it must be so hard for her to get higher surfaces. >> well you know, i just let her figure that out. >> seth: do you, when it's you and moose in the house do you talk to moose a lot? >> yes. >> seth: like do -- i mean, i talk to frisbee. >> i talk to her all the time. >> seth: now i have a question for you. do you think moose -- do you picture what moose's voice would sound like? >> yes. >> seth: what does moose's voice sound like? >> hi. [ laughter ] >> seth: okay, so i'm going to be -- >> she's tiny. like, my boyfriend's dog is so
beautiful, she's like a pit bull something beautiful shiny skin and moose just looks like she just came out of the garbage. [ laughter ] she's the scraggliest. the two of them together it's so funny. but i always show pictures of rhonda, my boyfriend's dog, and then i just move over to moose, and i go, "hi." [ laughter ] it's really, she's so cute. >> seth: now, you have been promoting "ghostbusters" for a very long time. >> four years. >> seth: forever. [ light laughter ] you have had to go and talk about it. at you -- at least you've been able to do it with your wonderful co-stars. >> yes. it's been the best. >> seth: and -- so which must make it so much more fun. >> yeah. >> seth: i heard you were with melissa, you guys were doing, was it a speakerphone interview? >> we were -- this was our last, i think it was our last interview together. we were very punchy. >> seth: okay. >> and we were doing a speakerphone interview. i may or may not have just like spread my legs open and tried to make melissa laugh during the interview. because it's on speakerphone. they don't know what were doing. >> seth: right, yeah. >> and i was eating -- i had pants on. [ laughter ]
people are like -- [ laughter ] that's aggressive. i was eating peanut m&m's and i got this m&m, i brought it for you. >> seth: okay. >> i got -- there's a green m&m that made me laugh. >> seth: okay. >> and so i got a sharpie and i drew on it. i brought it for you. >> seth: so what drew you to it? >> wrapped beautifully. >> seth: was it the shape that drew you to it? >> yes. >> seth: okay. and so you got a sharpie. >> and so i -- and i'm giving it to you as a gift. >> seth: okay. >> because it looks exactly like slimer from "ghostbusters." you know like the green slimer. >> seth: yeah, we all know slimer. >> so -- >> seth: oh, my gosh. >> it's got a little -- [ laughter ] look at his body! [ applause ] >> seth: look at him. that's incredible. >> isn't that funny? and during the interview, i'm like, "can i get the sharpie?" and of course, they're like, "yes, of course." they thought i was like, needed
to sign something really important. >> seth: yeah. >> and then they brought it back and i'm drawing on an m&m. >> seth: this is an excellent drawing. and i'd have to say -- >> well, i don't know. >> seth: but, i mean, of all the -- i mean, of again, how many peanut m&m's have a perfect slimer shape to them? >> and it's green. >> seth: and it's green. >> and i'm doing -- >> seth: and you got it. you're doing "ghostbusters" press. >> it's a sign, you guys. >> seth: that is fantastic. >> you can have that. >> seth: how long do you think you'll save it? or is it now -- >> oh, i'm giving it to you. >> seth: it is for me to save. >> yes. >> seth: that's great. >> how long do you think -- [ laughter ] how long do you think -- >> seth: well, i think like -- >> how long will you keep it? that's the question? >> seth: well, you know what i should do is just build a huge shrine for it but not tell alexi, not tell my wife, and then just have her come home one day and just like this, all this -- >> can we please do it? >> seth: yeah, just like build, like, put a lot of money into it. [ laughter ] a giant glass case. >> that's just -- >> seth: those little lasers that so you can't break in. >> yes. [ light laughter ] >> seth: you're going to stick around, though, because we do have to work through some past issues. >> we have to do some stuff. >> seth: so when you guys come back, kristen and i are going to work through some stuff. >> yep. >> seth: "ghostbusters" opens in theaters and imax 3-d tomorrow. more with kristen wiig after this. [ cheers and applause ] ♪
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>> seth: welcome back. so, kristen, we have been friends for a very long time. >> we have. >> seth: and sometimes when you have such a long and close relationship with someone, there are moments when feelings get hurt. >> it's true. and you don't always have time to stop and say you're sorry. >> seth: so i thought with the time we have together right now, we would make amends for any past indiscretions we've committed against one another in a segment we are calling -- >> both: "seth and kristen clear the air." ♪ [ applause ] >> seth: i will start. kristen? >> yes, seth? >> seth: i am sorry for not responding to your recent e-mail right away. it took me a couple of days because i was on vacation. >> seth, you are forgiven. ♪ my turn. seth? >> seth: yes, kristen?
>> i am sorry because even though i have known you for ten years, i always thought your last name was spelled m-i-y-e-r-r-h-z-z-z. [ light laughter ] and also i didn't know that your first name is seth. [ laughter ] >> seth: what did you think my name was? >> beth. [ laughter ] do you forgive me? >> seth: kirsten, you are forgiven. ♪ my turn. kristen? >> yes, seth? >> seth: i am sorry for canceling dinner last minute this week. my son got sick and he was having trouble getting to sleep. i know we had planned it for a while, and i am sorry. >> seth, you are forgiven. ♪ my turn. seth? >> seth: yes, kristen? >> i'm sorry for the time i sold your name to a japanese energy drink that claims to cure male
impotence. i had no reason to do this. i just wanted to see if i could pull it off. [ laughter ] >> seth: okay. >> if you ever go to japan, you will be known as inpotensu o toko -- >> seth: kristen. [ laughter ] >> it means impotence man. [ laughter ] >> seth: i get it. >> do you forgive me? >> seth: kristen, you are forgiven. ♪ >> your turn, seth. >> seth: kristen? >> yes, seth? >> seth: i'm sorry about that time i was over at your house and i didn't use a coaster while we had drinks. do you forgive me? >> the coasters were right there. [ laughter ] >> seth: i know. >> this is a tough one for me. >> seth: i'm apologizing for it. >> seth meyers, you are forgiven.
♪ >> seth: your turn, kristen. >> seth? >> seth: yes, kristen? >> i'm sorry for secretly dosing you with lsd. [ laughter ] i thought sending you on a psychedelic journey would be really funny. [ light laughter ] >> seth: it wasn't funny. [ laughter ] my son's face transformed into larry king's face. [ laughter ] do you think that's funny? >> i think that's very funny. [ laughter ] a baby, with an old-man face, wearing suspenders? i actually don't think there's anything funnier. [ light laughter ] >> seth: well, i was terrified. >> okay. well, i did it as a prank, but maybe you didn't see it like that. everyone thinks it's funny. i've done this to hundreds of my friends. >> seth: are you even asking for my forgiveness? [ light laughter ] >> um. yeah. >> seth: kristen, you are
forgiven. ♪ >> your turn, seth. >> seth: kristen? >> yes, seth? wait, i'm sorry. are you going to apologize for the time you broke into my dressing room at "snl" and stole my favorite headphones? >> seth: i didn't do that. >> oh, yeah? then why do you have those white headphones that look exactly like mine? >> seth: those are apple headphones. everyone has those. [ light laughter ] >> how convenient, seth. >> seth: isn't it possible you just lost them? >> it is 100% impossible. [ laughter ] >> seth: okay. i'm sorry. >> seth, you're forgiven. but i will see you in headphone court and that is a real thing. ♪ >> seth: kristen, it's your turn. >> seth? >> seth: yes, kristen? >> i'm sorry for the time i squirted you in the face with a water gun. >> seth: wait, i don't think you ever squirted me in the face with a -- [ laughter ]
why did you just do that? [ light laughter ] >> the coasters were right next to the glasses. [ laughter ] they were on the table. [ applause ] >> seth: you're right. you're right. and i did steal your headphones. >> i knew it. [ laughter ] do you forgive me? >> seth, you are forgiven. ♪ i love you, seth. >> seth: i love you, too, kristen. >> both: this has been "seth and kristen -- [ laughter ] clear the air." >> seth: we'll be right back with keke palmer. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ what's it say? is it the cure for malaria? has the war ended? a prince wants to give us 20 million dollars, he just needs our social security numbers.
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back to "late night," everybody. our next guest voices the character of peaches in "ice age: collision course" which opens in theaters on july 22nd. let's take a look. >> best present ever. >> you, sir, are an education and marital excellence. i'm really going to miss you guys when we leave. [ coughing ] >> ow! >> actually, i haven't told them yet. >> oh. surprise! >> you're leaving? >> i thought you guys were going to live us with the first couple of years. >> i know, but julian and i kind of want to roam for a while. >> roam? >> yeah. travel, explore, just go wherever. no plan is the best plan. that's my philosophy.
hors d'oeuvres? >> seth: please welcome to the show, keke palmer. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: hi! >> this is beautiful! >> seth: isn't it nice? >> it is very nice. >> seth: it's so nice to have you here. >> very nice to be here. >> seth: now, obviously this is just a job where you were lending your voice to a character. i always am so curious about the process of going into the voiceover booth because you obviously acting but you can show up in sweatpants and what not. >> yes. >> seth: is it hard to get comfortable and get in character? >> it's fun for the most part but the only thing that's really heart are the efforts. and efforts are like the noises that you make that you don't realize you're making. so like when you're riding a bike, you don't really think you're making any noise but you're like, if you're going animation, you got to be like -- but that's even harder with "ice age" because not only am i a woolly mammoth, but they'll be saying stuff like, "okay, keke, so what's happening to peaches
right now, she's falling off a cliff, she falls into the pool of water, her dad pulls her out and they both fall in the mud." "okay, i don't know how to sound like that." [ laughter ] >> seth: you have no experience in your life that can lend itself to that. >> none at all so i just end up wailing -- [ yelling ] >> seth: oh, you nailed it. >> thank you. >> seth: oh, you nailed it. >> you know, i've had some time now. >> seth: you absolutely -- right, yeah. >> seth: now, the actor adam devine plays your fiancé mammoth in the clip we saw. >> yes. >> seth: now when did you meet him? do you meet your -- >> i still haven't meant him. >> seth: really? >> i'm sure he's wonderful. i liked his voiceover work. but we have never met ever. and i was really sad about this in the last "ice age," you guys because in the last "ice age" peach's love interest was drake. >> seth: oh, my goodness. [ light laughter ] >> okay, if it was a live action version, we would have got our love affair started right there on this here. >> seth: that -- yeah. but sound booth at different times. this is so heartbreaking. >> i know. >> seth: this is like an arranged marriage where you never meet the person. >> i know. >> seth: yeah. but that's nice. so drake was the perfect -- >> oh, that would have been icing on the cake of my 17th year old year. >> seth: yeah, that's pretty
good. now you -- queen latifah is your mother in this. >> yes. >> seth: and you worked with her when you were 9 years old? >> yes, my first -- >> seth: "barbershop 2?" >> yes. >> seth: is that your first movie? >> that was my first thing actually ever was "barbershop 2." >> seth: wow. >> and i got to play her niece. and she gave me her first piece of advice to me ever which was don't ever eat the prop food. >> seth: okay. >> because i was so hungry. i was like, oh, my character was eating a hotdog. and i'm like i'm going to have to eat this hotdog, i'm so hungry. she's like, "no! keke, whatever you do it's been sitting out all day, that's the one thing you can't do is eat that prop food. >> seth: i like that as a new person on a movie, the thing you were drawn to was free hotdogs. >> exactly. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> 9-year-old keke was like, "i want food y'all." [ light laughter ] >> seth: now, we went backstage, i said hello to you backstage. >> yes. >> seth: we took some snapchat. >> we did. >> seth: now you are very active on snapchat. >> i am. >> seth: okay. would you say you're very good at it? >> i think so. >> seth: okay, gotcha. >> the kids love the kids. >> seth: the kids love the kids. but you -- there is something you want to clarify for your snapchat followers. >> oh yes, okay. you know what, because sometimes i'll be talking to the kids, you guys, on my snapchat, i refer to
all my peeps the kids. because we're all kids. ya'll are kids too, right? >> seth: okay. great. i'm so happy to hear that. i am so happy to tell my wife. >> it's true. so what i say is always whenever something, like -- okay, so early i was like, i send my ex-boyfriend 100 text messages and he doesn't reply, but the gag is he still loves me. >> seth: okay. >> but really i'm just crazy. [ laughter ] so whenever you're crazy, whenever you're crazy, just put the gag in there and it's all fine. >> seth: okay. so the gag meaning the phrase, the gag. >> it's the catch. it's the cool. it's the catch. it's the one thing. you know what i mean? like, okay, here we go. i'm hanging out with seth meyers, but the gag is i just got to meet kristen stewart. [ laughter ] >> seth: oh. >> not kristen stewart. but the gag is i messed up the name. it's really kristen wiig. [ laughter ] see what i mean? >> seth: so you can use the gag -- even if you used the gag wrong, you could immediately save it with a gag. >> exactly. >> seth: gotcha. >> that's the gag. >> seth: okay. so here's mine. [ applause ] >> i'm ready, i'm ready, i'm
ready! i'm so excited, seth! >> seth: my wife bought me a nice new pair of dress shoes but the gag is i don't like wearing them because my feet hurt. >> that's good. that's very good. >> seth: i don't think it was. [ laughter ] >> well, they didn't really give you much encouragement. let's do it one more time. he did the punch line. >> seth: the gag is -- [ applause ] >> yeah! there it is! >> seth: all right. thank you so much. that's very helpful for me as i start to make my way into social media. >> exactly. we got to get this up. the kids have been looking for you. >> seth: the kids have been looking for me? >> they've been looking for you, seth. >> seth: they've been asking about -- >> when i told them i was hanging out with you tonight, i got about 100 screen shots. >> seth: oh, well there we go. that's the gag. >> that's the gag! >> seth: all right. [ laughter ] thank you so much for being here. give it up to keke palmer, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] "ice age: collision course" opens in theaters -- >> oh, you're so awesome. >> seth: -- on july 22nd. we'll be right back with gay talese. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ is depression more than sadness? ♪
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody. our next guest is one of the most influential journalists in the 20th century. his latest book, "the voyeur's motel," is in stores now. please welcome the very talented, the legend, gay talese. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ >> seth: what an honor to have you here. thank you so much. >> mutual. and the music is wonderful. >> seth: aren't they wonderful? they're a fantastic band. [ cheers and applause ] >> talented. >> seth: now, i am very happy, you are always so dressed up. i'm so happy you dressed up today. i would have been heartbroken if this was the first time i saw you dressed down. but do you always -- at what point in your life did you start
dressing as you do? >> i have a father who's a tailor. >> seth: okay. >> others in my family in italy and france are tailors. so when i was a little kid, i was born in ocean city, new jersey, near atlantic city. and i was a little sign board for my father. i mean, i would be walking up and down the streets with his clothes. my clothes were custom made from the age of about 5 or 6 or 7. >> seth: oh, wow. >> and when i went to grade school and then high school, of course, i was abused because i was overly dressed. >> seth: uh-huh. i feel like if you can persevere through high school with people giving you a hard time about it, then you are just going to be well-dressed forever. >> i think that's what made me a journalist. you see, in high school, and later on in college, if you aspire to be, and i always aspired to be a journalist, you're a little separate and from people 'cause you're -- the people are your audience. the people are your subject. and i was the chronicler was separate from people. and i dressed separately. i mean, it almost was in accord with my sense of separateness which i had from the time of boyhood.
and i guess it was a fascination of what the other side looked like. i mean, who is the devil? did the devil have nother side? could have sort of a better view of what is wrong? >> seth: mm-hmm. >> and that inculcated in me from the time i was a boy then a college student, and later on a young journalist for "the new york times." i was always thinking i wanted to be a writer, maybe not of the right people, but the wrong people. the wrong side. >> seth: well you found a very interesting, if i can say about, in "the voyeur's motel", you found someone who is maybe, arguably, on the wrong side. this is a man who reached out to you. >> definitely. >> seth: who had bought a hotel in colorado for the purposes of having, being able to watch the people at his hotel do everything including have sex and he reached out to you and basically said, i think you might be interested in writing about this. >> oh, he got the right guy. >> seth: yes. [ laughter ] >> and so when this man, gerald foos is his name, wrote me a letter, it was 1980 and it was a letter written in
handwriting. it was really well written. usually handwriting comes from -- when i get handwriting letters -- prison, mental institutions. >> seth: yeah. >> or prisoners write you letters. but he wrote a very compelling letter about what he had done 15 years before he wrote the letter. 1960s. he said he -- married man, two children, and bought a motel in a town called aurora near denver. for the purpose of watching people. the hotel, motel, i mean, had an attic and he had, he designed -- it was tall enough to walk in, this peak roof. and he designed 12 of the 21 rooms in such -- it had fake ventilation system and he would peek as he walked along the attic down on the 12 rooms. and he did this for 15 years. more importantly, he kept records, not voice, but written records of what he saw. he wrote this to me. and i'm very curious. obsessively curious. maybe a voyeur in the making, i was a voyeur before i met a voyeur.
and he was a little covert character in this watching human nature in all of its forms. people might think it's sexual. the sad thing about if anybody was looking for sex, you don't find it very much in a motel or any place because people are not that occupied with sex most of their days. very little. most the time, it's a boring life. i discovered this in the mafia. mafia was boring being in mafia. and it was boring to be a motel owner. but he did see a lot. >> seth: well, i want to ask about a moment that didn't see boring to me that you write about, is the first time because you went up in the attic with him. and you were with him over this ventilation. >> yes. >> seth: and the fact you dressed so nicely, almost gave you away. >> well, the first day i met him, he picked me up from the airport. he looked like the people i saw in the area. he wasn't a weird looking guy. you'll see photographs in the book. and he drove me the 12 -- some miles from denver to aurora. and after dinner i met his wife, and after dinner we returned to the motel, and you had to climb up to the utility room.
there's a ladder. i followed him up the ladder. and i tell you, i'm wearing a vest now, but i wasn't wearing a vest then. and i had the silk tie like this. and i climb up the ladder and wecrawl along the catwalk and i'm looking over through the slats through some of these rooms. in most of the rooms people were smoking, watching television, arguing. one couple, a young couple from chicago, were very nice looking and they were very amorous. they were very forceful. they were performing oral sex. >> seth: oh, jackpot. [ laughter ] >> yes, it was a jackpot. >> seth: yeah, of course. >> i'll tell you what, because for me, i leaned over the slat, crawling, and my tie dangled through the slat. and if you're that young woman performing oral sex, you look to the ceiling, and this thing is dangling, this crazy tie. and the voyeur, the real voyeur, not the amateur voyeur, grabs me by the neck and pulls me back. and gets my tie up there. and he looks -- then i realize, what a fool. i could have put this guy in jail. and we'd both go to jail. >> seth: yeah. >> and they would go, "who's the
voyeur? you or him?" >> seth: be like, "i just watch the voyeur." >> yeah, i'm a reporter. [ laughter ] well, anyway, we fortunately got away that time. he made me leave and i did follow him down the ladder apologetically. he said, "next time, tomorrow, don't wear a tie." i said, oh, i won't. i won't. >> seth: so that's what it takes to make gay talese dress down. [ laughter ] so, now i wanna ask about this. the "washington post" did an interview with you where they had found some inconsistencies in his story as far as the years he owned the hotel. >> yeah. >> seth: you even say in the book you can't vouch for everything he said. you call him out as an unreliable narrator. do you think it's fair then, for the "washington post" to call you out for getting facts wrong? >> well, it might be self-serving, the way i sound but i'm not trying to be self-serving. the "washington post" was wrong. when i first got this news, i was broadsided. i'm 84 now, but most of my life from the time i was 20, i was a very careful reporter. i'm still a careful reporter.
and they said, the "washington post" said that during a period, this guy that's owned this motel for 37 years, for about six, or seven, to eight years, from 1980 -- that's when after i left them. until about '86 or so, he didn't own the motel. meaning how can he not own the motel and try to write about as if your in the motel? and i didn't know that. and i was very upset. and i said, well, i can't go along and support this book. but the next day, i called the guy who bought the motel from the motel guy that i knew and he goes, 'no, no, i bought this motel from gerald foos," the guy. "but he still had access to it. he had the key." and he had the key all the way through the owners. the he re-bought the motel in '86. if i had known that day i was told about this -- what i know now, what i knew the next day, i wouldn't have disavowed the book. >> seth: got it. >> it was a mistake on my part. but i overreacted. i was very angry. and very embarrassed, too, because i took pride always in life, reliable reporter. that's what i am.
and i wasn't what the "post" said. that's -- i don't blame the aggressiveness of the reporters in trying to check the facts. we all try to do that. >> seth: well, i think that's important. i want to ask as well, you wrote an article for "esquire" called "frank sinatra has a cold." it got reprinted a bunch this year because it would have been his 100th birthday. >> that's right. >> seth: it is considered a turning point piece of journalism. you spend time with the sinatra camp and the sinatra people. when you were working on this piece that, sort of, advented this new form of journalism. did you know it was going to be a piece that would live on for as long as it has? >> no, no, i've written so many pieces and never know what the public will like or remember. in my 65 years as a reporter, the only time i really enjoyed talking to someone, i know you won't have -- you have experience talking to everybody every night. you love them all. >> seth: yes. >> i don't love any of them except peter o'toole. >> seth: peter o'toole. >> and he affected my life. first there was, he had done lawrence of arabian. >> seth: mm-hmm. >> and i went to london where he
lived, interview him. and we have to go to ireland. so he let me go with him to ireland. and not that we drank all the time, we drank much of the time. >> seth: uh-huh. >> but much of the time when we weren't drinking, so surprising, a superstar actor, great actor, he'd ask me about myself. like god, i'm the interviewer and he's interviewing me. and he said, "are you married?" i said, "yes, i'd married in 1959 and i've been married the same woman -- as of tonight. [ laughter ] i think -- when i get home i have to check. [ laughter ] but anyway, he said, "you have any children?" i said, "no, we've been married for four years. my wife is also -- a good catholic family. an irish catholic. i said, "no, i'm a reporter, i can't afford it." "you can't afford it?" "no, i can't afford a child." "you know, you're not a risk taker, are you?" said, "i have a child and i'm an actor." "well, i'm not a risk taker. i just didn't think i couldn't afford it." 'why don't you just change and do it? why don't you just do it?" nike commercial. just try it, do it. and he said, "why don't you have your wife come over and stay with us in london. my wife would be glad to have you as a guest."
so i call my wife, nancy. i say. "peter o'toole and his wife," she was an actress as well, "welcomed us for a week." so she flew over and we had this wonderful guest room. and during nice six-stay period as a guest of peter and siân phillips, who's the wife, we conceived our first child. >> seth: oh, my goodness. >> yep. pamela was born '64, 9 months after the peter o'toole invitation. and i think today, he created my not being so much of afraid of not having enough money. >> seth: well, it breaks my heart to tell you this, he watched you guys conceive the baby. [ laughter ] gay talese, everybody! "the voyeur's motel", is available in book stores now. we'll be right back. [ cheers and applause ] ♪