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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- ken jeong, incoming white house counselor kellyanne conway, co-creator of "the good place," writer mike schur. featuring the 8g band with fred armisen. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers. [cheers and applause] >> seth: good evening, everybody, i'm seth meyers. this right here is "late night." how's everybody doing out there? [cheers and applause] fantastic to hear. in that case, let's get to the news. president obama gave his farewell address in chicago tonight, and i know it's because of term limits, but it still feels like our dad is walking out on us and we're stuck with our weird new step dad. [ laughter ]
"you're not my real dad, john!" [ light laughter ] the senate held confirmation hearings today for donald trump's attorney general pick jeff sessions, who was denied a federal judgeship over 30 years ago for his alleged support of the kkk. so wait, is he trying to convince us that he's less racist now that he's older? [ laughter ] you can't fool us. we all just came back from visiting our relatives. [ laughter ] man, nana's really chilled out on race. [ light laughter ] after past accusations of racism, attorney general nominee senator jeff sessions said today, quote, "i abhor the klan and its hateful ideology." though he refused to answer the follow-up question, "ku klux or wu tang?" [ laughter ] "which klan, senator? [ laughter ] "we'll wait." [ light laughter ] several costumed protesters were escorted out of jeff sessions' attorney general confirmation hearing today, including one who
appeared to be dressed up as dracula. [ laughter ] [ applause ] 63 billion messages were sent this new year's eve on the messaging service whatsapp, and most of them read, "are you watching mariah carey?" [ laughter ] eric trump recently said that the trump organization will probably not pursue business deals in russia in the next few years. they'll also probably not tell us if they do. [ laughter ] music streaming app spotify today offered president obama a job as president of playlists. and they say america isn't racist. white ex-presidents get offered jobs as corporate lobbyists, and they ask the black guy if he wants to be a deejay. [ laughter ] [ applause ] the german government is investigating a recent surge in fake news after claims that
russia's attempting to interfere in the country's upcoming parliamentary elections. officials became suspicious when they saw this headline. [ laughter ] and finally, google's self-driving car company has sad that it has cut the cost of driverless car technology by 90%. so if you're still a little scared at the thought of driverless cars, you're going to love the new super cheap driverless cars. [ laughter ] we have got a great show here tonight here on "late night." [ cheers and applause ] from the fantastic hit show "dr. ken" on abc, ken jeong is back on the show. we're so happy to have him. [ cheers and applause ] and i'm incredibly excited about this. she ran donald trump's presidential campaign and will serve as white house counselor. kellyanne conway is here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] and she is formidable. i've seen her in a lot of interviews, and i would say get ready for her to eat my lunch. i would say get ready for that. [ light laughter ] also, co-creator of nbc's "the good place" and one of my dear friends, writer mike schur will
be joining us this evening. [ cheers and applause ] so you're here for a fantastic evening. before we get to all that, though, the first confirmation hearing for president-elect donald trump's cabinet appointments began today with trump's nominee for attorney general jeff sessions, who has faced intense scrutiny for his record on civil rights and immigration. for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: before any confirmation hearings for trump's nominees even began, there was already controversy over the fact that many of trump's nominees hadn't finished the full ethics review and background check process. >> every cabinet appointee has to, by law, undergo a thorough ethics review. but according to the man who oversees that very process, that's the director of the office of government ethics, many are seriously behind schedule, including several current nominees from pre -- president-elect trump, with confirmation hearings scheduled this week. some haven't even completed fbi background checks. >> seth: they haven't completed fbi background checks.
you can't even get a job at chipotle without a background check. [ laughter ] and this used to be a non-partisan issue. in fact, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell himself sent a letter to democrats in 2009 insisting that confirmation hearing for president obama's nominees only occur after the fbi background check is complete, the office of government ethics letter is complete, and financial disclosure statements are complete. and to his credit, mcconnell has been 100% consistent now the republicans -- i'm just kidding, he completely changed his mind. >> all of these little procedural complaints are related to their frustration at having not only lost the white house, but having lost the senate. i understand that, but we need to sort of grow up here and get past that. >> seth: yeah, democrats, grow up. everybody knows the best part about growing up is that you don't have to do paperwork anymore. [ light laughter ] now anticipating some contentious hearings, trump nominees have been practicing in mock sessions, and that preparation is probably especially crucial for nominees who on their face don't seem fully qualified for the jobs they're filling. like former texas governor
rick perry, trump's pick to run the department of energy. as energy secretary, perry would be in charge of overseeing the nation's nuclear arsenal, which reminds me -- finish building bomb shelter. [ laughter and applause ] perry will be succeeding a world-renowned nuclear physicist, current energy secretary ernest moniz. by contrast, according to "the daily beast," perry took four chemistry courses and got two cs, a d, and an f. [ laughter ] he got a c in physics and a d in something called "meat." [ laughter ] i guess that's why he didn't get that job at chipotle. [ light laughter ] but today the focus was on senator jefferson beauregard sessions of alabama, trump's nominee for attorney general. interesting fact -- beauregard is french for "you fellas ain't from around here, are you?" [ laughter ] going into the hearing, it was crucial for the senate to give him a thorough and rigorous review, given his record as a hardliner on immigration and voting rights. civil rights organizations including the aclu and naacp have objected to sessions' nomination based on his civil rights track record.
for example, cnn reported that as a u.s. attorney in alabama, sessions once prosecuted a group of civil rights activists in an infamous voter fraud case, that their attorney said was racially motivated. those activists were found not guilty. and one recently said of sessions' nomination, quote, "he shouldn't be up for anything, not even a dogcatcher." dogcatcher is not of course a cabinet position, but if it was, you can bet chris christie would be begging for it. [ laughter ] "please, boss man. i'll do anything not to go back to new jersey. don't make me go back." sessions' civil rights track record explained why some protestors showed up in the chambers dressed in kkk robes. and you could tell they were protestors and not actual klansman because real klansmen never wear "we're number one" fingers. [ laughter ] i mean, they think it. [ light laughter ] sessions has also expressed skepticism of attempts to remove the confederate flag from public buildings. in 2015 when alabama removed the flag from the state capital, sessions had this to say. >> this is a huge part of who we
are, and the left is continually seeking, in a host of different ways, it seems to me -- i don't want to be too paranoid about this, but they seek to delegitimize the fabulous accomplishments of our country. >> seth: the civil war was a fabulous accomplishment? a fabulous accomplishment is a moon landing, not when brothers shot each other in a swamp. [ light laughter ] as attorney general, sessions would also be in charge of enforcing the nation's drug laws, and given that several states, most recently california, have legalized the recreational use of marijuana, that puts sessions in a position to crack down on those states if he so chooses. and again, his previous statements on marijuana have not been promising. >> we need grownups in charge in washington to say marijuana is not the kind of thing that ought to be legalized. it's not funny. it's not something to laugh about, and -- and trying to send that message with clarity that good people don't smoke
marijuana. >> seth: good people don't smoke marijuana? [ laughter ] tell that to willie nelson. >> are you smoking any more or less marijuana these days? >> i think so. [ laughter ] >> seth: the wording of his answer was vague, but i think it's clear he meant more. [ light laughter ] so those are just a few examples of why the senate needed to aggressively question sessions today, but complicating that effort was the fact that sessions is currently a member of the senate, which means he has personal relationships with a lot of the senators who questioned him. in fact, before the hearing, multiple democratic senators went out of their way to point out that they exercise with sessions in the senate gym. >> you know, i go to the gym, we're on the bikes together with senator sessions. >> we have worked out together at the gym. >> i said to jeff sessions in the gym the other day -- >> a good friend to chat with about football and family in the gym. >> seth: just when you think senators couldn't be more out of touch with everyday americans, they think it's okay to talk to people in the gym. [ laughter ]
"how much you bench, bro? you need a spot? i spot you, you spot me? [ laughter ] bro! bro, take your headphones out!" [ laughter ] illinois senator dick durbin even went out of his way to describe in detail how the two came to an agreement on sentencing reform for certain drug offenses in the senate gym. >> dick durbin was trying to reduce the penalty for crack cocaine, which was 100 times higher than powder cocaine. then he saw sessions in the senate gym. >> we both showered, were putting our clothes on, about to leave. i said, "jeff, give me a number." >> seth: wow. [ laughter ] usually you get someone's number before you shower together. [ applause ] once the hearing began, sessions faced questions on a variety of issues, including his record on immigration. in the past, sessions has offered support for the idea of an ideological test for immigrants, and voted against a resolution that stated the senate would not pass policies that discriminated based on religion. south carolina senator lindsey graham asked sessions about his position on those
issues. >> would you support a law that says you can't come to america because you're a muslim? >> no. >> would you support a law that says that if you're a muslim, you say you're a muslim, and when we ask you, "what does that mean to you," well, that means i got to kill everybody that's different from me, it's okay to say they can't come. >> i think that would be a prudent decision. >> seth: and that question will definitely stop idiot terrorists. [ laughter ] "did you get your visa?" "no." "why not?" "i said i wanted to kill everybody." [ laughter ] "why?" "they asked! i hate being a terrorist!" [ light laughter ] eventually, sessions was asked about his role in the campaign and whether it would affect his impartiality as attorney general, specifically as it relates to the investigation into hillary clinton's private e-mail server. >> did you ever chant "lock her up"? >> no, i did not. i don't think. i heard it in rallies and so forth.
sometimes i think humorously done. >> seth: oh, it was humorous. ha, ha, ha. now i get it, it was a funny joke. did you think it was funny, hillary? oh, yeah. [ laughter ] she just doesn't -- she doesn't get it. [ applause ] graham also asked sessions about the intelligence community's findings on russian hacking. remember, these nominees have been preparing for weeks for these hearings, so presumably, he was ready to offer a detailed, in-depth answer on what has been one of the biggest political stories of the last few months. >> do you think the russians were behind hacking into our election? >> i have done no research into that. >> seth: you've done no research? did you forget this was happening today? [ light laughter ] i've done research on that, and my job is interviewing celebrities in the middle of the night. [ laughter ] in general, though, we probably shouldn't count on the senate to get answers about cyber security, because they don't even know how to operate a clock. >> so just so my colleagues don't think i'm taking advantage of time, somebody didn't start the clock. >> oh, it's your clock.
>> oh, you got it, okay. it's just -- well, the light isn't working. i'm sorry. i can read it now. >> seth: "and it says here, it's time to get a new senate." [ light laughter ] this has been "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] we'll be right back with ken jeong, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ has anyone seen we sent him on a coffee run. alright. i've got your latte... large coffee with cream... and your favorite, mocha. oh, where do you guys get your coffee? you gave me way too much money. he's good. make a mccafé run instead. for a limited time get any size coffee, freshly brewed every 30 minutes, for one dollar. or a delicious small mocha, latte or hot chocolate for two dollars. wake up and win the day.
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody, and please give it up for the 8g band over there. [ cheers and applause ] also, i'm so excited this week. fred armisen is back with us. give it up for fred, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] and don't forget to catch fred's "portlandia" season seven on ifc. congratulations. >> fred: thank you. [ cheers ] >> seth: i can't believe it. blow my mind. our first guest tonight is an actor and comedian you know from the show "community" and from films such as "the hangover" and "knocked up." he stars in his own sitcom, "dr. ken," which airs friday nights on abc. please welcome back to the show, our friend, ken jeong, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪
>> seth: how are you, ken? >> fine, how are you doing? >> seth: i'm so happy to see you again. >> thank you for having me. >> seth: did you have a nice holidays? >> yes. >> seth: did you go home? >> yes, yes. i went first after we wrapped "dr. ken" for the winter. i went to see my in-laws in san francisco. >> seth: uh-huh. >> i was there for a few days in san francisco, the bay area. >> seth: there we go. >> i had a great time, and then i pivoted to north carolina and saw my folks and my relatives there, so -- >> seth: that's a fantastic. >> it's a whole swing of the west and the east. >> seth: now that you have a show that is to some degree autobiographical -- >> yeah. >> seth: are people -- is your family concerned that you will steal from their life and put it on to television. >> they are -- they are just assuming and aware -- and aiding and abetting in my theft of their lives. >> seth: oh. >> so they already know. [ laughter ] >> seth: they're happy to give it away. >> they're happy to give it because i have no stories to tell in the second season, so i do have to hack off my family, and that's why i went to the bay. >> seth: got you. >> yeah. >> seth: normally you would not
visit family. >> no, i would never see -- i'm a celebrity. why would i see my family? [ laughter and applause ] no, i'm trying to break stories, people. [ laughter ] >> seth: did you have any good -- now, are they -- do they feel proud? do you think they watch with friends and say, "you know, that's based on me?" >> yeah, my dad is, like, my biggest cheerleader. he's like -- he's a retired economist and he just could not believe i'm doing -- this is my second career. i used to be a physician in real -- as my first job. so my dad -- when i go home, it's a [ bleep ] shrine. you like where i go there? [ light laughter ] this is just like -- it's a whole "dr. ken" balloon. "oh, i like when you blew the balloon. latex balloon." [ laughter and applause ] this is very nice. it's mean love. i mean, he just -- he [ bleep ] get's -- i'm sorry. i don't know why. [ laughter ] >> seth: that was great. >> i hate my family. [ laughter ] i hate them. >> seth: but you are -- let me just say, you are the jackpot son. >> yeah. >> seth: because your dad can say, "my son has his own tv show, and before that he was a doctor." [ laughter ] >> yeah. >> seth: because my dad says, "my son has a tv show." and nobody thinks i could have
also been in medicine. [ light laughter ] so they must be so proud. >> he's very proud and very supportive, and seriously, he was just so -- it was my wife who really, who was also a doctor, who really supported me doing -- "knocked up" was my first film, and really supported me do acting full-time. and i was so scared doing this full-time as an actor, and it was my wife's supporting. my dad was like, you know, "i always said you have to have support of your family. your wife is now your family, so you have my support." [ laughter ] it was very sweet, man. he's the sweetest man. >> seth: that's really great. >> yeah. >> seth: you're very lucky. >> even though i [ bleep ] hate him. [ laughter ] >> seth: you mean that right there. you have -- >> yeah. >> seth: i want to talk to you because there's a couple of dr. ken's travel tips. >> yeah. >> seth: i've heard these, and i'm wondering if it's worth adopting them. you have a charger issue. >> yes, i am so neurotic with my chargers. i'm that guy that -- i'm the worst case scenerio. i'm the guy that gets that really bumps. i'm like, "oh, my god. my technology is on the fritz. i only have 98%." >> seth: oh, got you. [ light laughter ]
>> i'm that guy. so, i have my iphone, and then, i have my portable charger for my iphone. this is not a bit. and then i have the wall charger for the portable charger for the iphone. but while the wall charger is charging the portable charger, i have another wall charger charging the iphone, repeat with the ipad and with, like, my bluetooth, which i still use, because i'm old. [ light laughter ] >> seth: right. >> there are, like, literally a total of, like, nine chargers, portable and wall. >> seth: it sounds like a death trap. yeah. >> it is a death trap. you'd think if i go through tsa, there'd be some sort of, like, threat concern. but since most of my travel lately is l.a. and new york, it's like, "oh, it's just chow, he's an ninny." [ light laughter ] >> seth: oh, got you. >> yeah, yeah. >> seth: because there is. you are still chow. >> yeah. >> seth: to a lot of people from "the hangover." >> yes, that is the reason why i'm talking to you. [ cheers and applause ] i'm mean, it is "the hangover." >> seth: i know you recently returned to doing standup for the first time in a long time. >> yeah. >> seth: and is there an expectation that you will be more like chow than actually ken? >> that's -- i tried to do standup back in april.
and when i was doing standup comedy, a lot of it was just me, you know, having a medical day job. and that was the point of view. and now, it's just more -- you know, i get up on stage, and it was just like, you know, "too-da" -- and i'm like, "oh, so anyway. so what's going on the new" -- "do chow!" [ light laughter ] and i'm like, "um, so, um -- so what i really think about the brexit is" -- "do chow!" [ laughter ] "and well, i hate when the guy from europe said, "too-da-loo, mother [ bleep ]." [ laughter and applause ] you know, you just -- i sell out. i have no will, and i'm a hack. [ cheers ] i am what i hate. >> seth: this -- i'm very excited. you have 9-year-old twin daughters. >> 9-year-old twin daughters. >> seth: and one of them made appearance on your show this year on "dr. ken." >> yes, yes. zooey made an appearance playing my tv son's stalker. >> seth: okay. [ light laughter ] was that -- was this -- did this occur to you that your daughter would make a good stalker? [ laughter ] >> yes, exactly, to your point. to your point, i didn't want to give her any lines. so she just, like, want, you know -- >> seth: yeah. >> played to her strengths, no
lines. and i wanted her -- i wanted her to -- i wanted her to just look through a window. and she does this very, you know, i have to be this doting dad. the very buster keaton has deadpan stare. >> seth: so solid deadpan. >> yes, solid -- even as a toddler, she had this way of just not bre -- you know, just wouldn't break, you know. and it's just the break in the laughter, and she just nailed it. >> seth: even when you did chow? >> even when i did chow. i was like, i was like, "too-da-loo!" [ laughter and applause ] i said, "that's my girl." chip off the old block. but no, i have her back for a couple more episodes. but now, i'm like, she doesn't want to do it anymore. i think she is kind of getting bored with multi-cam. >> seth: oh, yeah. she wants to do a netflix thing. >> she wants to do more netflix, more streaming, more prestigious projects. >> seth: is the other twin, is she jealous? >> no, because, well, even though they are fraternal twins, and studies do show if anyone's a fraternal twin, they are more
competitive than identical twins. >> seth: yeah. >> and, but alexa and zooey seem to have this cold war detente of, like, "my lane is gymnastics. you are, you know, you know, a non-talking actor." [ laughter ] >> seth: right. >> "so, you know, let's not cross paths." >> seth: right. >> they're like libertarians. "stay out of my world. stay out of my yard, and i'll be fine." >> seth: okay, perfect. >> you know. yeah, yeah. >> seth: well i'm glad there's peace in the jeong family. >> yes, yes. >> seth: and thank you so much for being here. it's always a pleasure to see you. >> oh, thank you. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: congratulations on your show. >> thank you very much. >> seth: enjoy, everybody, "dr. ken." it airs friday nights on abc. we'll be right back with kellyanne conway, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ hi guys, i want to get your opinions on the first - ever chevy cruze hatch... but more importantly, i wanted to get your opinions. bark. you wanna check it out? the cruze has apple carplay compatibility. so when you plug your iphone in, some of your favorite apps show up. bark. plenty of space for all of mia's friends. or not. gotta go! current qualified lessees can get a sign and drive lease on this first-ever cruze hatchback. plus, find your tag and get an additional $500 lease cash on select chevy vehicles.
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back to "late night," everybody. our next guest ran donald trump's presidential campaign. she will serve as white house counselor in the trump administration. please welcome to the show, kellyanne conway, everyone. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ >> seth: thank you so much for making the time. >> it's my pleasure. >> seth: i know you're very busy. >> you got swing state voters here? >> seth: i think we have swing state voters here. [ cheers ] there you go, two or three.
[ light laughter ] so, first of all, i want to ask, do you think -- does the president-elect know you're here tonight? >> he does. >> seth: do you think he's watching? >> i hope so. he'll watch at some point. >> seth: all right, good. >> we're fans. >> seth: thank you. i don't know if we are fans. [ laughter ] >> we're fans. >> seth: all right, thank you. >> he was very successful on "the apprentice." he built an incredible brand, a number-one show. >> seth: oh, we're fans of nbc, not of me, personally. >> no, we're fans of your show. [ laughter ] he's a tv guy. >> seth: i was waiting for you to say, "we love a' closer look.'" [ light laughter ] i want to find, first of all, a common ground and things we can agree on. first of all, i want to congratulate you, the first woman to ever run a successful presidential campaign. that was very impressive. [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you, thank you. >> seth: so i want to congratulate you on that. also, i've seen you in interviews take issue with a group of people that you feel are sort of saying, "not my president" about donald trump. and i just want to make it clear that i do. he is my president. >> good for you.
>> seth: he's my president so much, it's keeping me up at night. [ laughter ] >> no. >> seth: and -- >> because he's so exciting. he's getting so much done. there's so much activity already. i know that's what you meant. and first time -- if i can just back up one second. >> seth: sure. >> it's your show. i get so much credit for this campaign. and yes, i was a campaign manager, i'm really excited to go into the west wing with president trump, but we had a fantastic team, and i think there's no substitute for a quality candidate that connects with people and communicates to them. and he did that, but i wanted to share the credit. >> seth: oh, of course. that is very nice for you to share the credit. when you said that you are fans of my show, i have to say, i do it alone. [ laughter ] it's a one-man show over here. >> no. so, should i go? >> seth: no, no, no, no. you're good. >> i'm done? i'm done here? >> seth: so i want to ask, this broke while we were getting ready for the show, while i was getting changed for the show. cnn had a report that the intelligence community briefed both the president and the president-elect with allegations that the russian government has compromising information on president-elect trump, both
business information and personal information. i know this just happened. can you confirm or comment on the fact that the intelligence community has presented it to donald trump? >> well, guess what hasn't happened, seth. nobody has sourced it. they're all unnamed, unspoken sources in the story. and it says it was based on a russian investigator to begin with. so, where are we? do we -- >> seth: i think it was based on an mi-6 british investigator. >> right, well one of those, and then, it said that it also may have originated with a russian investigator. and it also says that hillary clinton and groups that wanted hillary clinton to win may have been behind the investigations, themselves. and most importantly, it says that the fbi is trying to confirm it. so nothing's been confirmed. and i have to say, as an american citizen, regardless of your party, or if you don't like politics at all, which are many americans, we should be concerned that intelligence officials leaked to the press and won't go and tell the president-elect or the president of the united states, himself now, mr. obama, what the information is. they would rather go tell the press. >> seth: but the press report was --
>> it's an alligation. >> seth: about them going to the president. >> and it says they never briefed him on it, that they appended to two pages to the bottom of his intelligence report. >> seth: i believe it said they did brief him on it. >> he has said that he is not aware of that. >> seth: okay. that concerns me. [ laughter ] >> no, no. he is not -- >> seth: i'm concerned. but in general, i just want to -- >> okay. that's not fair. >> seth: i understand. no, i understand that -- >> and it's not true. >> seth: what is not true, that i'm concerned? [ laughter ] >> no, that, i see. >> seth: okay, i assure you i am. [ laughter ] >> any, you know, any father of a newborn is concerned. believe me -- >> seth: yes, exactly. >> about that. but, no, it's not fair that people don't give him his due. he received that intelligence briefing. >> seth: mm-hmm. >> he made comments about it afterwards. and i have to tell you, there wasn't very compelling information in terms of the nexus that people like to make between alleged hacking and the election results. vladimir putin didn't tell hillary clinton to ignore michigan and wisconsin. she did that all by herself. >> seth: no -- >> they spent more money on -- >> seth: i agree. >> georgia and arizona than they
did in michigan and wisconsin. >> seth: i'm not going to sit here and argue with you -- >> that's how you lose. >> seth: that the clinton campaign was a well run campaign. >> or that the russians interfered in the election successfully -- >> seth: well -- >> that they disrupted our democracy, which is what we should all care about. >> seth: i agree. >> is that true or not? nobody has proven that. >> seth: but shouldn't we care if the russians try to interfere, where it affected the outcome of the election or not. isn't that something that -- i sometimes fear that the president-elect has no curiosity as to the amount they tried. >> that is completely false. >> seth: okay. >> he has enormous curiosity. i'm there every day with him. he has a number of different meetings every day, briefings and otherwise. he was curious enough to figure out america. he knew america where many other republicans did not. >> seth: that's a pivot right there, kellyanne. >> no, and democrats did not. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: and by the way -- >> he understood america and won america. >> seth: no one does it better. nobody does it better. >> however, i just did want to answer your question about what he learns and what he knows and what he believes. i mean, he's been very specific about what he's going to do in
the first couple weeks and first 100 days. you can go and pull it up right now. i think that's why he won because he said 10-step program reform the veterans administration. and he also said something that's very important, which is if we have veterans who are waiting in line, dying, waiting for care, who are we as a nation? i think that's a very important non-partisan problem. >> seth: you have not picked the v.a. secretary yet. is that correct? >> well, he's going to pick, but he's just -- >> seth: but why hasn't that happened yet? >> he's had so many different candidates with a diversity of backgrounds and opinions and vision for the v.a. he actually -- the list keeps getting longer. we've had a long short list for all these different appointments. i guess the better question on the table is if we have eight nominees for the cabinet that are having hearings this week in washington, d.c., seth, are we going to get fair hearings from democrats? we have minority leader chuck schumer of new york saying they're going to obstruct any supreme court justice we puts up. they're going to embarrass and harass some of our nominees with information that's not important. i mean, we need a government that functions. president obama had seven nominees confirmed on inauguration day.
can you guarantee we'll get that by next friday on our inauguration day? >> seth: i'm not in charge, so i can't. [ light laughter ] but i will say, can you admit that there are some nominees that have put forward that the office of ethics has said, have said have not been fully had their background check by the fbi? and i just want to say, you ran a successful campaign, talking about draining the swamp, talking about ethics, talk being about hillary clinton's ethics, making ethics a centerpiece of your campaign, and it was an effective method. and yet, now here we are, and it seems to me that you don't seem to think background checks are important for -- >> that's not true. when would i have ever that? of course i think background checks are important. but let me take betsy devos for example. she has been nominated to be the secretary of education for this nation. her hearing was supposed to be this week. it has now been pushed off. and i talked to her office today, and they say that she has completed all her paperwork. it got in there early, and she's confident that everything is in order, and yet, she can't get the hearing on time. why is that? why are we playing politics with the department of education or state? >> seth: well, it's politics.
[ laughter and applause ] it is politics. >> well, for president obama, it shouldn't be. as president obama had seven nominees confirmed to his cabinet, including defense and state and treasury and commerce. >> seth: well, we still have time. >> so did president bush, actually. >> seth: all right. if there's seven -- >> we still have time? okay. >> seth: if there's seven, we still have time. >> ten days to go, folks. >> seth: i'm very excited about this. and obviously, i think a lot of the questions i'm asking you will be asked to the president-elect tomorrow, first press conference tomorrow. >> yes, very excited. >> seth: 63 days in. why did it take so long? that's a lot longer than presidents usually take to speak to the press. >> the president-elect has been very busy forming his government. >> seth: but every president who ever puts together has -- [ laughter ] >> they haven't had -- they haven't had, well -- >> seth: they haven't had to meet with kanye. >> no, they haven't had to. [ laughter and applause ] [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: they haven't had the kanye meetings. >> i love the kanye meeting because -- >> seth: i love the kanye meeting, too. >> come on. let's look at the schedules of other president-elects, shall we? >> seth: i'm just saying they got their first press conference out a lot earlier. >> and said what? does anybody remember what they said in that first press conference? >> seth: so, now you're saying it's not important. >> no, it is important. >> seth: but wait, now. you just dismissed -- >> but we are accessible to the press. here i am.
we are accessible to the press on a constant basis. >> seth: you are accessible to the press. and i want to tip my cap to how accessible you are. >> can you actually do that, like a make america great again cap? can you do that right now? [ light laughter ] do you have one under that desk? >> seth: i'll tip an imaginary hat, but you can't see what it imaginary says. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> i sort of can. i sort of can. >> seth: but, tell me this because i want to speak. it seems like you have to go on the press constantly. and it seems like one of the things you have to do is defend or explain what the president-elect has said on twitter. wouldn't it be great for you personally, if he tweeted a little bit less? [ laughter ] >> no. >> seth: just for you personally. >> no, actually, the answer is no. i think his twitter platform, like, his social media platforms in general, a combined 45 million followers or so on instagram, facebook and twitter. and it's his way to communicate directly with the people. it's free for you. you get information from him. the press doesn't like it, because he does end run around them, and it's the
democratization of information. you don't have to wait for some journalist, an anti-trump journalist to curate the information and bias it at liberty, but just read it. >> seth: but there's no followup questions. >> and then you stop -- well, there's plenty of followup questions. >> seth: not on twitter. [ laughter ] >> come on. are you on twitter? there's plenty of -- >> seth: he doesn't reply to the followup questions. [ laughter and applause ] >> oh, yes, he does sometimes. >> seth: oh, he replies to things, but not questions. [ laughter ] >> look, this is the twitter. think about what he's done twitter. think about the trump effect, as i call it already. he has major employers deciding to move their factories out of mexico and back to the united states and keep those jobs here. that's what leaders do. they do that even before they're sworn in. >> seth: so you're okay with the president sort of picking winners and losers in the free market via twitter. >> nope, nope. i'm okay with him. >> seth: because that's what it seems like what he does sometimes. >> no, not at all. what he's doing is he's laying down incentives. he's saying to them -- >> seth: on twitter. >> and elsewhere. >> seth: yeah. >> and on phone, in meetings, and certainly in statements, but, look, he's an unconventional guy. we've never had such a successful, brilliant businessman take office before. [ audience groans ] it's usually a typical
politician -- >> seth: sure. >> who's moving in place to place, while he's employed tens of thousands of people. >> seth: yeah. >> and he invested in the city of new york when nobody else would. he had vision, and he just, and he did. there are many buildings in this city that don't just -- >> seth: yeah. >> bear his name, but bear his vision as informator. >> seth: you said the other day on cnn that sometimes the press obsesses with taking the words out of his mouth, instead of judging him on what's in his heart. [ light laughter ] isn't it important to judge -- >> did i say sometimes? i meant all the time. >> seth: so you think it's not important to listen to what he's saying, but it's more important to listen to what is in -- >> no, i think it's both. but there never seems to be the latter. >> seth: how do we know what's in his heart? [ laughter ] >> he expresses it -- >> seth: he expresses it how? out of his mouth. [ cheers and applause ] >> a-ha. no. >> seth: yes. [ cheers and applause ] >> so, here's what's in his heart. does anybody remember what the president-elect said moments after he received a call from hillary clinton congratulating,
and yes, ladies and gentlemen, conceding the election to him as her president. >> seth: yes. yeah, we all know that. >> do you remember what he said? >> seth: no. >> he said, "i will be the president of all americans, even those who do not support me." [ laughter ] and then, he said and i know we're gonna -- we have such disrepect. i'm guess i'm just astonished -- >> seth: well, i will say -- >> i'm almost 50 years old. i'm just so astonished to hear people outwardly ridicule the office of the president and its current occupant. i was raised differently, no matter who it is. >> seth: well, i respect -- >> i know the media and pollsters who were crap, didn't prepare you for the election results, but all you had to do listen to us. the cues and clues were there. every day, i was on tv saying, "here's how we're actually going to win." >> seth: and again, he said he would be president of all of us, yet he has also said on twitter that said vladimir putin was right, that the democrats are being poor sports. is that a president of all parties when you sort of take russia's side against -- >> have you seen what the democrats have said about him? did you that $1.2 billion spent by hillary and her campaign, not even counting the outside groups? >> seth: i would say both sides -- >> and it was all anti-trump. if anybody in the audience can tell me right now what
hillary clinton's message was in this campaign, i'm listening, because "i'm not donald trump" is not a message. and that was her message. she had no message. >> seth: again, a poorly-run campaign. i got your back there. >> his message is jobs, health care. yeah, but they -- look. it's important because people say, "why is she still talking about the campaign?" because you're talking about the campaign, and they won't accept him as their president. >> seth: i'm not talking about the campaign. i am absolutely not. >> ah, you're -- you're talking about -- >> seth: i'm talking about what's happening right now. >> right, but you're talking about democrats as poor sports and -- >> seth: i didn't say that. he said that, and he didn't say it during the campaign. [ laughter ] >> he did say it during the campaign. >> seth: no, he said it december 24th on twitter. >> that's true because they are. [ laughter and applause ] because they still won't give up. >> seth: so then, you are talking about it. >> they're still -- >> seth: i'm not talking about it. >> you're still pretending it was jim comey or russian hacking. it was hillary clinton. that's my message. >> seth: all right, my last thing, and thank you, and i really hope you will come back because it is fantastic for me to talk to somebody within the trump campaign and within the trump presidency. >> no campaign. >> seth: no campaign. that's right. i did it. >> you see? you did it again? >> seth: i will say this. i'm going to make you a bet. >> okay. i bet in the next four years we are not going to see the president-elect's tax returns. [ laughter and applause ]
>> and i bet, and i bet, and i know, because this is talked about during the campaign many times. [ laughter ] i bet that most americans really care what their tax returns are going to look like after he's been president for four years. >> seth: i think that means you agree with me. kellyanne conway, everybody. we'll be right back with more "late night." thank you so much. >> thanks, seth. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ to feel this special... you need to eat this special. ♪ i love it kellogg's special k... ...made with whole grains and fiber ...to help a body thrive. ♪ i love it folic acid and vitamin d... ...to make a body feel this good. start your day with 150 nourishing calories... ...in a bowl of special k. ♪ i love it eat special, feel special. discover more ways to eat special ...with special k. diswith new tastes ofter side, the mediterraneanen recipes that put a fresh spin on traditional italian
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: our next guest is an emmy award-winning writer and co-creator of hit shows such as "brooklyn nine-nine" and "parks and recreation." his latest series "the good place" airs thursday nights at 8:30 right here on nbc. please welcome back to the show, one of my very best friends, mike schur, everybody.
♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: hi, buddy, how are you? >> i'm good, man, how are you? >> seth: i'm good. i'm so happy you're here. i'm so happy "the good place" is a show. [ laughter ] i am. i'm happy that you now have given us -- because you co-created "parks and rec," co-created "brooklyn nine-nine." [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you. >> seth: worked on the office. you have given us so many great shows. "the good place," which, for those who haven't seen it, is about this wonderful imagining about what an after life is like. >> yes. >> seth: and how did you come up with this idea? >> mostly it came from driving around los angeles and observing terrible human behavior on a regular basis. >> seth: sure. [ light laughter ] >> and, like, someone would cut me off, or someone would be at a stoplight and would be texting and wouldn't see that the light had turned, and then i would
very gently and meekly sort of tap my horn, and then they would look at me like i'm the one with the problem. [ light laughter ] and i started wishing that there were just a mathematical point system. that it was like, you do those things, it's like, you just lost 14 points. this, like -- and a little red negative 14 would float up in front of you. [ laughter ] and then there would be a feedback mechanism that was like, "oh, maybe i shouldn't do that." and so i started imagining if that were what the afterlife were, if it were just a video game, basically. >> seth: yeah. >> that you get to the afterlife and they go "here's your score," and the people with the highest scores go to --, and the people, ehh, would go. [ light laughter ] >> seth: yeah. and that's nice to think there are -- somebody actually -- you are a lover of stats. >> yes. >> seth: you're a baseball fan, a sports fan in general. >> yeah. >> seth: so it must have been nice for you to think there's a statistical fairness to the afterlife. >> i pitched it to -- early on, i pitched it to damon lindelof, who created "lost" and "the leftovers," who's a wonderful writer. and he described it as basically the "money ball" universe. [ light laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> and when he said that, i was like, "ooh, that sounds good." [ laughter ] >> seth: ted danson,
kristen bell, two of the stars. ted danson, one of your all-time -- i mean, gold standard actor. >> yeah. >> seth: gold standard sitcom "cheers," and now this. he's fantastic. >> "cheers," my favorite show, sam malone, my favorite character. >> seth: yeah. >> ted danson -- i think ted shouldn't even act anymore. i think he should be put into the smithsonian. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> like, and he should be on a lazy susan, and he should just slowly rotate -- [ light laughter ] and then so then people could come and be like, "there's ted danson!" like, he should be shared with all of america forever. 'cause he's that good. >> seth: were you nervous when you first met him? >> extremely. i drove in my car down to meet him. and i thought the whole time in the car, like, "you've got to be cool, like you have to be cool." 'cause this was like -- he's my hero. >> seth: yeah. >> and i was like, "all right, i'm going to be cool." and i walked into the room, and he said, "hi. i'm very excited about this meeting," and i said, "i bet i'm more excited!" [ laughter ] and i mean, i'm not kidding,
that was sort of the high point. >> seth: it went downhill from there. >> it went downhill from there, yeah. >> seth: one of my high points in my life, no exaggeration, i got to be the best man at your wedding. >> that's right. seth is my best friend. [ audience aws ] >> seth: which is one of the great -- [ applause ] and i had not -- you sent a few photos to show, basically i guess my arc over the course of an evening. >> it's a short arc. >> seth: yeah. >> so, let's start. it's a black tie affair here in new york city. look at this classy gentleman. >> seth: that's a young man. a classy young man. >> this is 11 years ago. >> seth: you're right. still classy there. >> getting ready for the speech. this is the speech. >> seth: okay, gotcha. and now how many hours later do you think this is? >> this is probably four hours later. >> seth: four hours later -- not as good. [ laughter ] what am i doing? >> i don't know. >> seth: i don't -- i don't know -- i didn't know that move existed. >> yeah. [ laughter ] but this is my friend aaron. you're doing better than aaron. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah, that's right. >> i would say. >> seth: i -- we wrote together at snl. we had a great time. one of -- i remember it's the hardest i maybe ever laughed working on a piece. it was you, me, poehler, horatio. >> yeah. >> seth: i think matt murray. >> yeah. >> seth: and now it's the weirdest thing that we wrote.
>> i know. >> seth: we wrote a sketch called "donald trump's house of wings." >> that's right. [ light laughter ] >> seth: and in this sketch, 2004, there's donald trump. [ laughter ] he had a buffalo wing store. >> yeah. >> seth: that's me dressed as a chick. [ light laughter ] >> there's poehler, yep. >> seth: there's poehler. a lot of stuff happened. >> i feel like if we had written it so that he himself had to be in one of these goofy egg costumes, this whole thing might not have happened. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> that it was -- >> seth: 'cause we can -- none of us can ever be president. >> no. >> seth: no. [ laughter ] you can't ever be president if you wear an egg costume. but if you -- because he looks dignified next to us. >> is this the information that the russians have on him? [ laughter ] this could be -- they could have mistaken this for some kind of compromising thing. [ light laughter ] >> seth: somebody got a dossier in a parking lot, and opened it up and was like, "oh, my god." >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: oh, this will ruin him. >> this will ruin him. >> seth: thank you so much for being here, buddy. it's always such a pleasure to see you. let's get dinner after this. >> oh, that sounds great. [ cheers and applause ]
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[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: my thanks to ken jeong, kellyanne conway, mike schur, everybody. fred armisen. [ cheers and applause ] you remember fred, right? the 8g band, stay tuned for carson daly, we'll see you tomorrow. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> carson: hey, everybody. what's happening? i'm carson daly and you are watching "last call." thank you so much. tonight, we've got a good one for you. tony cox is going to talk all