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isis operative is training terrorists just across the border in mexico, and they include a link in the report to an italian newspaper which quote that is man as saying our border are soft, and he could get in with a handful of man and kill thousands of people in texas oreads arizona in the space -- or arizona in the space of just a few hours. an arizona mayor taking some heat tonight after refusing an invitation to meet with other mayors of us and mexican border cities. he said he'd not attend the meeting later this month because the invite was sent in spanish and english. in his words, one nation means one language, and he felt insulted. former neighbors of a missing boy sharing their concern over jesse wilson's well being. they last saw him a year ago when they lived in avondale.
would often be locked out in the afternoon and he'd knock on doors asking for snacks and drinks. >> i made them sandwich, and they came back again and knock on the door again, and wanted more food. >> another neighbor told abc 15 when he asked the mom why her kids were left unsupervised, and she said she was have been trouble getting them day care. jesse wilson has been missing since july 17th. and re kingman real estate agent that vanished without a trace two years ago. >> the bottom line is sidney cranston jr. is still missing, and we're pleading with the public to help us find him. >> it's officially a homicide investigation, and they're offering $5,000 for information about the suspicious disappearance.
before asu opens the football season, and the renovation at the stadium still has some time to go. you will see thousands of new seats and backs and cup holders replacing the old bleacher, and stairs many place of the old ramp. also more bathrooms and concession stands. >> reporter: i'm kim tobin here live outside of an officer involved shooting here in mesa in the area of country club. this is hunter and grand. police tape covering up the entire area. we do know that a possible homicide suspect was being contacted by police. there was a shooting here. we know officers are okay. we're not sure about a possible suspect, but i did speak with a neighbor who said he saw a man in hand cuffs, and he tells me
around his house, so we're waiting to learn more. right now they're gathering, we're hoping for an update from police. back to you in the studio. now to the most accurate forecast, and a few isolated showers this afternoon across the valley. we're drying back out, and it was a hot one. only getting hotter through the weekend. today near normal at 105, but all the humidity made it feel even worse. right now the humidity at 35 percent. dewpoints still in the 60s as we sit at 9 phoenix sky harbor. -- 96 at phoenix sky harbor. glendale and goodyear still in the upper 90s at this hour, and across the state 55 at flagstaff, and 64 currently in show low. tonight mostly clear state- wide. 40s and 50s along the rim. bullhead city at 85 a, and gila bend at 84, and casa grande at
central desert and areas to the west, and lake havasu city and bullhead city, scorchers above 110. phoenix about 105. sedona at 97, and show low at 84 degrees. closer look at the valley. 80s in the overnight forecast. early morning lows across much of the east valley in the low to mid-80s, and highs tomorrow hitting 103 in mesa and fountain hills, 104 in tempe and gilbert, and 106 in avondale, peoria, and glendale for tomorrow. here's how it breaks down hour by hour. 85 at 6:00 a.m. if you're an early riser, nice through about 8:00 or 9:00. then the 90s as we carry the afternoon forecast into about 1:00. by 2:00, the triple digits hit, and 105 will be the temperature right around 4:00 in the afternoon here tomorrow. now, the uv index will be extreme. we're under another uv alert, ten minutes or less without sun
notary in mind if you're headed to the pool. and an ozone air alert issued for tomorrow and sunday as well, so throughout the entire weekend air quality unhealthy for sensitive groups, so limit your time outside this weekend. sunday 106. there's a slight chance of a few mountain showers and thunderstorms here tomorrow, but phoenix should monday 107, tuesday 108, and then toward the middle of next week, humidity increases, temperatures drop a pit, and a slight -- bit, and showers back in the forecast wednesday, thursday, and friday. >. and there was a big opportunity for younger players tonight. >> reporter: yes, and we talk
raiders in the first pre-season game, but we saw some good things from the starting offense. namely carson palmer, 73-yard drive, but stalls on the oakland 7. there's a 25-yard field goal. the other guy looking like he's ready to play better in his second season is david johnson, number 31. he had three carries for 31 yards, including a 23-yard run on his third carry of the night. then that rookie out of texas, brandon williams. he was tacted early, gave -- targeted early, gave up a touchdown and a couple of completions but had a fumble recovery. the cardinals fall 31-10, and the biggest improvement every season they say comes after that first game. >> the good things, i liked the way we started.
played well. showed up ready to play. i thought individually there were some really good things with the young player, although collectively it was not very good. >> reporter: so not very good for the young guys. now we've a lot of work to do between now and next week. >> reporter: busy week for sure. no time on the beach. there were some very happy fans out here. a lot of happy fans, but specifically some abc 15 fans that won. sandy rodriguez won the contest, and she and her guests got to check out the pre-game on the field, then watched the game from the stands, and you guys they were pumped. >> my heart is pounding. i'm exciting to be here. >> it's my first time actually being in the stadium, and then
>> reporter: and sandy and her friends aren't the only ones who will have this great experience this pre-season because we're doing it again for the cardinals broncos game september 1st. to enter simply download the abc 15 app, and then look for contest entry. good luck, everybody. we'd love to meet you and hang out with you. >> reporter: and it's neat, you get to come down and hang out on the field before the game. >> reporter: nearly get hit with footballs. that's part of it too >> they're enormous, huge, you have no idea how big the gentlemen are. >> and you're so close to them. definitely worth putting your name in and trying to win. >> reporter: yeah, you feel tiny next to them. >> thanks so much. the cardinals take on the chargers in san diego on friday, kickoff is right here.
back live topmast now, our crews following an investigation good beginning on the officer involved shooting. we know officers fired multiple shots. nostossers hurt, but -- no officers hurt, but still waiting for a police briefing. much or on www.abc15.com and abc 15 mornings. trending now, the absolute worst bets you can make at a sure it can be a fun place to go, but isn't it more fun to win? >> of course. the five worst bets, if black jack doesn't pay three to two walk away. otherwise it's a money grab for the casino. >> and your odds are better keeping the 20s. never take the insurance, it only insures more loss.
pretty bad bet, but walk past the flashy one, the basic are the best choice financially, and of course good luck. >> i have idea what you guys just talked about. maybe at last a good thing. >> probably! [ laughter ] >> and here's a look out there. first of all some pretty hot temperatures heading into the weekend. there's the break down hour by hour. noon tomorrow in the 90s, and 5:00 p.m. temperatures until triple
>> jimmy: hi, i'm jimmy. i'm the host of the show. thank you for watching. thank you for coming. very good to have you. hey, here's a tidbit i found interesting today. we are now 97 days away from the presidential election. we still have 97 more days of this. i have a 2-year-old daughter. i realized this morning this campaign has been going on for more than half her life. i feel it's been going on for more than half my life now. donald trump is in the middle of where to start. first of all, he was talking about bernie sanders. and while he was doing that, he came up with a new nickname for hillary clinton. >> if he would have just not done anything, just go home, go to sleep, relax, he would have been a hero. but he made a deal with the devil. she's the devil. he made a deal with the devil. it's true. >> jimmy: i like how he says, it's true. as if he traveled to hell and confirmed it himself. saw her with the shoes off, yep,
devil. calling your opponent the devil, that's going to be tough to reel back in if he loses and has to make a concession speech. today i called the devil and congratulated her on her victory. i'm disappointed but we now unite behind our president the devil. if he loses by the way it's going to be the greatest concession speech in history, right? [ cheers and applause ] in the history not just of the united states. "new york times" had a big story about the five deferments trump got to avoid being drafted during the war in vietnam. four of his deferments were because he was in college. the fifth was a medical deferment because he said he had a bone spur in his heel. which fortunately healed up the moment the war was over. so his heel healed. i'm surprised he had a bad heel. i assumed his heels would be the best. the best heels ever. but after that story came out a war veteran in virginia approached donald trump and gave him his purple heart.
handed me his purple heart. now, i said to him -- i said to him, is that like the real one? or that is a copy? he said, that's my real purple heart. i have such confidence in you. and i said, man, that's like -- that's like big stuff. i always wanted to get the purple heart. this was much easier. >> jimmy: yeah. definitely. anybody have a nobel prize they want to give him too? and maybe most damaging of all this stuff, he tweeted this photograph last night. in which he is feasting on kentucky fried chicken with a knife and fork. and a spoon, even. what's more relatable than a man in a suit eating fried chicken with utensils on board his private jumbo jet? [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: he's just like us.
who eats kfc with a knife and fork? i don't even need a plate. the reason it comes in a bucket is you don't need anything. all you need is a face to eat kfc. i'll tell you, it's tweets like these that make chris christie very jealous he's not trump's running mate right now. trump has been lashing out at the media. he's very angry with the media lately because they keep reporting all the things he says, which is totally unfair, makes him look bad. the clip you're about to see i think really sums donald trump if you were to drop donald trump into like a large stock pot and boil him, set him to simmer for a month until he becomes soup, if you were to pour that soup into a snow globe and seal it up forever, this clip is what you would get. >> i'm very close to china. i have a biggest bank in the world a tenant of mine in new york. the biggest in the world, a chinese bank. don't worry about that baby, i love babies. i love babies, i hear that baby crying, i like it.
what a beautiful baby. don't worry, don't worry. the mom's running around like -- don't worry about it, you know? it's young and beautiful and healthy and that's what we want. okay, we have the piggy bank. they have ripped us to shreds. ripped us absolutely to shreds. actually, i was only kidding, you can get the baby out of here. that's all right. don't worry. i think she really believed me that i love having a baby crying while i'm speaking. that's okay. >> jimmy: it's all there, right? china, a baby, he likes china, he likes the baby, he doesn't like the baby. he's kidding, he wasn't kidding. every iota of donald trump was right there in that 60-second clip. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: i've never seen a guy running for president flip-flop
and our final moment of trump time tonight comes from his rally in harrisburg where he slowed him way down for tonight's edition of "drunk donald trump." [ slow music ] [ playing the tape slowly ] >> thinking all the time how am i going to -- and they're turning and tossing and sweating and disgusting. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: that trump vodka is strong. the summer olympics start on friday in rio. and the u.s. men's basketball team is getting ready. they beat venezuela in an exhibition game over the weekend by 35 points. afterwards, on the team playing, they celebrated with the number five song from may of 2002. ? ? and i need you and i miss you ?
? if i could fall into the sky ? ? would pass me by because you know i'd walk a thousand miles ? [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: yeah. that's quite a face. carmelo anthony looks like he'd rather have the zika virus than be on that plane. into our opponents' hearts, nothing will. we've had a lot of fun so far but we've now reached the educational portion of the program. we recently teamed up with our friend snoop dogg for what has already become a very popular new guessing game. the way it works is we show snoop footage from a factory. we show him film of something getting made. then we ask him to try to figure out what that something was. feel free to guess along. here is this week's edition of
>> this is big snoop dogg coming at you one more time, we're trying to see what the [ bleep ] they making. actually -- wait a minute -- is that cocaine? offering to make some rocks? hold on. this is -- wait, wait, what is this? looks like they're making -- cement sculptured light poles. fire hydrants. piggy banks. what is this? ice cream. oh -- a workman's hat. a lightbulb. a toilet. what in the [ bleep ] is this? yarn. i can't figure this [ bleep ] out for nothing in the world, dog. i'm trying my best too. liquids. oh, a bowling ball! y'all got me with that [ bleep ], that was tight.
[ bleep ], [ bleep ] bowling ball. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: thank you, snoop. we have to take a break. when we come back we go deep into the new season of "bachelor in paradise" and nate diaz of the ufc confronts his haters face-to-face. so stick around, we'll be right back. [ cheers and applause ] ? [ tires screech ] ? flo: [ ghost voice ] oooo! [ laughs ] jaaaaamie, the name your price tool can show you coverage options to fit your budget. tell me something i don't know -- oh-- ohhh!
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tonight on abc we were treated to the premiere of the new season of "bachelor in paradise" followed by tomorrow night's std results show. [ laughter ] it's all part of the package. if you're not familiar with "the bachelor in paradise" they send a bunch of borderline personality rejects from "the bachelor" and "the bachelorette" on vacation together and get them drunk and let the magic happen. we're only one episode in. already this is the best show starting with a physically fit but mentally not so much canadian named daniel. ? >> i'm back, america. canada's invading. we're taking over. my name's daniel. i'm 31 years old. i was on jojo's season of "the bachelorette." can't get rid of me. i'm like a disease that just won't go away. like herpes or something. i don't know if i want to be associated with herpes, but you know.
not a big deal, right? >> jimmy: right, right. bottom line, don't get in the hot tub with daniel. so daniel's buddy from "the bachelorette," the monster known as bad chad, was in the house. daniel was the only guy on "the bachelorette" who seemed to like chad. in mexico things got off to a rocky start. >> i just want to make out with -- >> you're not making out with anyone tonight. impossible -- >> i already made out with her. >> yeah, you did. you have a better chance of making out with a turtle than a girl tonight. you really haven't -- your chances are slim to none >> you're making me want to throw your ass down. [ bleep ], [ bleep ]. >> being honest and realistic with you. >> no, [ bleep ] off, man. serious, man. i'm [ bleep ] serious. >> you better not swing at me like that again, bro, i'll take you down. i'll take you down in chinatown! [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: take you down. i like the thought process there. i'll take you down.
threats are scarier when they rhyme in general. so chad got so out of control the next morning chris harrison had to convene a special group meeting about it which led to maybe the most shocking thing chris harrison has ever said on the show. >> this was a second chance for everybody to come in here and find love. >> right, that's why we're here. >> this was also a second chance for you. we all came here to be in paradise. in a matter of one night, you have turned this into hell. being belligerent to the staff of this hotel -- >> huh? i was friendly to the staff of the hotel. >> you told everybody at this hotel last night to suck [ bleep ]. >> jimmy: well, you know. you say that kind of thing to the hotel staff, you will not get one of those chocolates on your pillow at night. so chris had to tell chad he's going home. fortunately chad handled that with dignity and grace. >> you're making this a lot
look like a bitch, play into everything they're saying. and you act like you see me, you didn't even watch it, you went to sleep with a memos sa and a robe on. you didn't even watch the show. you think this is fun and games? this is my life. you're going to try to make me look like a bitch [ bleep ]? you, chris harrison, come at me. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: i wish he had. or i'm glad he didn't come at him. i don't know. is it too late for donald trump to change running mates? while we're on the subject of fighting, there is a big ufc match coming up two weeks from saturday in vegas. ufc 202. it is the much-anticipated rematch between conor mcgregor and nate diaz. nate diaz won the first bout. mcgregor is slightly favored to win this bout. we wanted to have some fun with this. we went on the street and we talked to a bunch of fans who think conor mcgregor is going to win. while they were talking smack about nate diaz and how great conor is, we had nate sneak up behind them.
>> ufc 202. conor mcgregor versus nate diaz. who's going to win and how? >> i think conor's going to knock him the hell out. i think conor's going to whoop him. i'm excited. i'm ready to see ufc 202. conor's going to whoop him, i'm ready, let's go. whoa! oh, whoa. >> i don't know why you want me to get knocked out. >> what's going on here? nate, what's up? you're going to be great. >> now, man. >> represent! >> it's all good. >> i like this guy a lot too, though. i did say that right? i said that. >> no you didn't say that. >> i didn't say that? >> i love conor mcgregor, he's my favorite fighter, he's definitely going to knock out nate diaz at 202. it's going to be a completely different fight this time. >> he's going to knock him out? >> he's going to knock him out. there he is.
granted like he did last name. last time he was taken for granted. this time conor's going to take his time. nate diaz i think is going to be the more confident one because he's the lucky one, got that lucky fight in. he's going to come in i think a little more like conor -- oh [ bleep ]! >> he's got the powers right here, get a picture. >> come on, man. that's nate diaz right there. >> that's right. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: see diaz versus mcgregor on ufc 202. saturday, august 20th. tonight on the show, oriante is sitting in with the cletones. we have music from grouplove, mark consuelos is here, be right back with salma hayek so stick around! [ cheers and applause ] ? introducing t-mobile's most epic deal ever!
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voice to a taco in "sausage party." please welcome salma hayek! [ cheers and applause ] ? >> jimmy: how are you doing? very good to see you. i was joke about you playing a taco but you are p >> i am playing a taco, yes. >> jimmy: you were born in mexico. >> correct. >> jimmy: you're part lebanese. >> yes. >> jimmy: your husband is french. >> yes. >> jimmy: your daughter is american. >> yes. >> jimmy: how many passports do you personally hold? >> when we travel it's like when you're watching those movies, those people that need to get away and they are criminals and they go to the safe and they have this pile of different passports? this is my family. traveling from place to place. >> jimmy: so when it comes to the olympics which are starting this weekend, who do you root,
>> jimmy: yes. [ laughter ] >> i have to root always first for mexico. >> jimmy: okay. because that's where you're born. [ cheers and applause ] >> and also because the mexican athletes don't get the support that the american or the french or the english athletes get. >> jimmy: gotcha. >> so really, they have so much merit. to get to the olympics. >> jimmy: it's harder. it's harder than it is here in the united states. >> it's harder, much harder. >> jimmy: what is the big sport? is it soccer that mexicans are most excited about? >> yes. i mean, we're very good at some strange ones like archery. >> jimmy: really? >> athletics, we'll walk forever, you know. all the training, crossing back and forth from united states. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: also diving. but i'm a huge soccer fan. so for me, soccer. we have this amazing experience
because we got to have the last game against brazil for the gold medal. this was a very important day in my life. >> jimmy: was it? >> yes, and my husband, my whole family had come over for the summer. >> jimmy: where were you? >> i was here in l.a. when i say my whole family, the mexicans know that's not likely. that's a lot of people in one house. [ laughter ] >> and my husband had arrived like 2:00 in the morning and the game was really early. then he was jet lagged and he couldn't sleep. oh my god, i was nervous that i was going to be too tired for the game. and finally, you know, we went to sleep. but i didn't -- i couldn't wake him up because he went to sleep like two hours before the game. and then i woke up really early. and it was like a conspiracy. none of the televisions were working. >> jimmy: oh. >> except the one in our bedroom. >> jimmy: oh. >> so i said to my 200 members of the family --
and the people that work in the house also wanted to watch the game. we're going to go into my bedroom but everybody has to be super quiet. [ laughter ] i am going to put the television in mute. you just got to watch and just keep it to yourself. francois is going to be sleeping there. and i don't want him to see that we're all invading the room. so everybody came, sat on the floor. there was no space. people started sitting on the bed. he didn't kn. he was practically cuddling with my father. then the game started. and then mexico scored. first they were all quiet. but then they couldn't hold it. it was like scooooore! he jumped out of bed. >> jimmy: wow. >> and saw all these mexicans in his bed, in the bedroom. he was terrified. and once we saw he was awake we start doing the mexican wave and
and we just had a party. and we won. >> jimmy: and you won. [ cheers and applause ] >> one medal for mexico. >> jimmy: wow. you have a very understanding husband. what is the difference between the mexican wave and just the wave? >> the wave, it's something you have stolen from the mexicans. >> jimmy: oh. >> there is not such a thing as just -- it is the mexican wave that you guys do. >> jimmy: i don't think so. i think we invented it. >> no. we invented the wave. >> j >> no, no, no. >> jimmy: yeah. guillermo, who invented the wave? wow. this is going to be a tough question for guillermo. [ laughter ] there's a lot at stake here, guillermo. in a way this is like when they put a puppy on the floor and it has to choose which parent to go to after the divorce. who invented the wave? >> guillermo: mexico did. 1986. [ cheers and applause ]
search by the way. >> if you have doubts you tell me what is the difference between the mexican wave and the wave. what is the difference? >> jimmy: well, there are mexican people doing it i guess is the only difference. but i think -- i've heard that it was invented in like 1981 up in northern california and washington, in those areas, which is before 1986. thank you! [ cheers and applause ] >> no. they were not playing soccer in 1981 in northern california and washington. >> jimmy: i didn't say it was for soccer. it's for football. the real football. [ cheers and applause ] the one where you do this. >> no, no. if that's the real football, why do they play it with their hands? [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: good point. >> don't get me started. >> jimmy: oh, you don't like football? >> i love football. >> jimmy: you love football? >> yes, yes. >> jimmy: i don't want to fight, i feel this was our first fight, it's exciting in a way. >> i like it. >> jimmy: all right, you know
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we live our lives with all these rules. some of them stop us from doing the things we want. causing our deepest urges to be suppressed when they are gathering like wildfire between our legs. >> did you say between our legs? >> look, brenda. i'm going to come clean. i have feelings for you i can't deny. crotch feelings. >> crotch? >> sorry, but i'm not a soft taco, i'm a hard, horny taco. >> jimmy: salma hayek, "sausage party." [ cheers and applause ] that was a hot dog bun played by kristen wiig. this is your first time playing a lesbian taco? >> yes, it is. yes, it is. quite an adventure. >> jimmy: did you know what your character would look like when you got involved in this? >> no. i knew -- in mexico, for the mexicans, a taco, it's always a soft taco. it's always round. even if it's a flauta and it's kind of hard, it's still one shape. i assumed that was going to be
because with this taco shell form, it's invented here, that you can take credit for. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] you invented the hard -- >> jimmy: the hard taco. >> i was going to say the hard, horny taco. >> jimmy: those aren't horny tacos, they're just tacos. >> they are hard. >> jimmy: they are hard, that's true. >> i'm doing it again. this character brings out the worst in me. >> jimmy: does your husband know about this film? >> no. >> jimmy: he does not. >> i kept it really secret. and he looked at the internet. what this is "sausage party" movie? they're making a mistake. i said, it's just the voice, it's an animated movie. he's going to discover how dirty it is at the premiere. >> jimmy: will he be amused? >> i think she'll be shocked. really when they offered me this part i was nervous.
>> jimmy: it is. >> i say, i don't know that i can say those -- oh my god, i'm going to be nervous to say those things. and once they got me improvising, i was so surprised at myself of the things that i came up with. [ laughter ] that would come out of my mouth. that were dirtier than what they wrote. so i definitely have it in me. >> jimmy: your husband owns a soccer team, right? >> yes. >> jimmy: which team does he own? >> he owns a team called ren. this is one of the reasons why i fell in love with him because i knew that i had another soccer passionado that i could live with and we could watch all the games. >> jimmy: unless he was sleeping, of course, right. >> unless he was sleeping. he started taking me to the games in france and i discovered it was a whole different experience. first of all, we went where all the important people go. sarkozy. hollande. i met them all in this special place.
everybody goes crazy. here they were all sitting like this. >> jimmy: oh, really? >> and of course things are happening and i'm going, all excited about it, and then francois is like, baby, baby -- calm down, calm. calm down. and everybody's like this. and finally there's a goal. and you know what they say when there's a goal in french? they're like this. boot! and i'm going like, gooooooooaaaaallll! >> jimmy: boot? boot, really? >> be careful. >> jimmy: what does that mean? >> be careful. because i think i heard you say poot. that's a whole other thing. >> jimmy: oh, that is, okay. >> no, no, no. >> jimmy: boot? >> boot, not a "p." >> jimmy: like the boot you wear on your foot? >> yes, like that. because with the "p" it's -- how do you say this -- it's like a