tv ABC News Special The Presidential Debates ABC October 9, 2016 6:00pm-8:00pm MST
the stage is set in st. louis. citizen questioners in place. the debate starts in three minutes. >> anyone who knows these words don't reflect who i am. >> as republican leaders reject their own candidate, donald trump dials up the war of words. >> bill clinton has abused women, and hillary has attacked and shamed her victims. >> he has called women pigs, slobs, and dogs.
minutes it's about to change. and what will she say about the new clinton e-mails just revealed? tonight, round two. the rematch. it all starts now, live from washington university in st. louis. the presidential debates, co-moderated by martha raddatz. now reporting, george stephanopoulos. >> good evening. strap on your s the race for president is about to take a strange new turn. donald trump, still reeling from the video release, saying he's going to retaliate. there was a scene about an hour ago, trump at a press conference with women who he says have c
harassment. tom llamas, he's going scorched earth. >> donald trump has always told me he's a counterpuncher, but this is the move he thinks can save his campaign. and the women, they're not just there, they're sitting in the front row. >> this republican leaders, still on the fence. >> yes, the women who accused bill clinton are right over my shoulder. but party leaders who have not already abandoned him have stopped defending him. others are watching. a bad performance by trump and they will leave en masse, taking party resources with them. one of them, trump's own running
blind sided by this? >> yes, there were aides who found out about this, and they look nothing short of shell-shocked. >> and david, trump has a history with them. >> yes, in an interview, trump said of bill clinton, the victims are terrible. saying it's unattractive group. and the moderators, our own martha raddatz and anderson cooper of cnn. let's go to the debate hall in st. louis. >> good evening. i'm martha raddatz from abc news. >> and i'm anderson cooper from cnn. we want to welcome you to washington university in st. louis, for the second presidential debate between hillary clinton and donald
format. voters will ask questions of the candidates, and martha and i will ask follow-up questions. >> the people on this stage were chosen by the gallup organization, each with questions they want to ask. we saw those questions for the first time this morning. anderson and i, from abc and cnn are the only ones who have seen them. both kacandidates will have two minutes to answer each question. we've asked the audience not to slow things down with any applause. except for now. ladies and gentlemen, the republican nominee for president, donald j. trump, and
president, hillary clinton. [ applause ] >> hello. hello. hello. hello. >> hi. >> thank you very much for being here. we will begin with a question from one of the town hall. secretary clinton, you will go first. our first question comes from patrice brock. >> the last presidential debate could have been rated as ma, mature audiences. knowing the educators have signed presidential debates as student homework, do you feel you're modeling appropriate
>> thank you. are you a teacher? yes, i think that's a good question, because i've heard from lots of teachers and parents about their concerns about some of the things being done in this campaign. and i think it's important for us to make clear to our children that our country really is great because we're good. and we are going to respect one another, lift each other up, ways to celebrate our diversity. and we're going to try to reach out to every boy and girl, as well as every adult, to bring them in to working on behalf of our country. i have a very positive and optimistic view of what we can do together. that's why my campaign slogan is stronger together.
and make big goals, getting the economy to work for everyone, not just those at the top. making sure that we have the best education system from preschool through college, and making it affordable, and so much else. if we set those goals and try to achieve them together, there's nothing in my opinion that america can't do. that's why i hope we will c obviously, i'm hoping to earn your vote, be elected in november, and i can promise you, i will work with every american. i want to be the president for all americans. regardless of your political beliefs, where you come from, what you look like, your religion. i want us to heal our country and bring it together, because that's, i think, the best way for us to get the future that our children and grandchildren
minutes. >> i agree with everything she said. i began this campaign because i was so tired of seeing such foolish things happen to our country. this is a great country, a great land. i've gotten to know the people of the country over the last year and a half that i've been doing this as a politicipolitic. i can't believe i'm saying that about myself, but i guess i have been a politician. and my america great again. watching deals happening, and horrible things like obama care, health care going up by 69%, 71%, the iran deal and how bad a deal for us it is, it's a one-sided transaction, we're giving back $150 billion to the
a weak country three years ago. when i look at all that i've seen, and all the potential our country has, whether it's in business and trade, where we're doing so badly. last year, we had almost $800 billion trade deficit. in other words, trading with other countries, we had an $800 billion deficit. it's hard to believe. you say, who's making these we're going to make great trade deals, have a strong border. just today, two policemen were shot, killed, and this is happening weekly. we have to bring back respect to law enforcement. at the same time, we have to take care of people on all sides. we need justice. i want to do things that haven't opinion done, fixing and making
african-american cities, and the latinos and hispanics. it's called make america great again. >> thank you. are you both modeling appropriate behaviors, was the question, and i can imagine, you called what you said locker room banter. you described touching them on their genitals. that's sexual do you understand that? >> no, this was locker room talk. i'm not proud of it, i apolog apologized to my family and the american people, i'm not proud of it. but this is locker room talk. when you have a world with isis chopping off people's heads, drowning people in steel cages,
happening, this is like medieval times. can you imagine the people that are frankly doing so well against us, with isis, and they look at our country, see what's going on with us. yes, i am embarrassed by it, i hate it, and it's locker room talk. i will knock the hell out of isis. we're going to defeat isis. it happened in a vacuum left because of bad judgment,nd will tell you, i will take care of isis. >> so, mr. trump -- >> get on to much more important and bigger things. >> just for the record, are you saying that what you said on the bus 11 years ago, you did not actually kiss women or grope women without consent? >> i have great respect for women. >> so, for the record -- >> i said things that frankly, you hear these things said. i was embarrassed by it.
things? >> no, i have not. and i will tell you, i'm going to make our country safe, we're going to have safe borders, which we do not have now. from the middle east and other places. we're going to make america safe, great, and wealthy again. if you don't do that, it sounds harsh to say -- >> thank you, >> other nations are taking our jobs and wealth. >> thank you. secretary clinton, do you want to respond? >> like everyone else, i've spent a lot of time thinking over the last 48 hours about what we heard and saw. you know, with prior republican nominees for president, i disagreed with them. politics, policies, principles. but i never questioned their
donald trump is different. i said starting back in june, that he was not fit to be president and commander in chief. and many republicans and independents have said the same thing. what we all saw and heard on friday was donald talking about women. what he thinks about women, what he does to women, and he has said thath represent who he is. but i think it's clear to anyone who heard it that it represents exactly who he is. because we've seen this throughout the campaign. we've seen him insult women, we've seen him rate women on their appearance. ranking them from 1 to 10. we've seen him embarrass women
we saw him after the first debate, spend nearly a week denigrating a former miss universe in the harshest, most personal terms. so, yes, this is who donald trump is. but it's not only women and this video that raises questions about his fitness to be our president. because he has also targeted immigrants, african-americans, latinos, people with disabilities, p.o.w.s, muslims, and so many others. so, this is who donald trump is. the question for us, the question our country must answer is that this is not who we are. that's why to go back to your question, i want to send a message, we all should, to every boy and girl, and indeed to the entire world. that america already is great,
and we will respect one another. and we will work with one another. and we will celebrate our diversity. these are very important values to me, because this is the america that i know and love. and i can pledge to you tonight, this is the america that i will serve if i'm so fortunate enough to become your president. >> and we want to get to some questions from >> can i respond to that? >> yes. >> it's just words, folks. it's just words. those words, i've been hearing them for many years. i heard them when they were running for the senate in new york, where hillary was going to bring back jobs to upstate new york, and she failed. i heard them where hillary is talking about the inner cities of our country, which are a disaster. education-wise, job-wise, safety-wise.
i'm going to help the african-americans, latinos, hispani hispanics, the inner cities. she's done a terrible job for the african-americans. she wants their vote, does nothing. comes back four years later. when she was a senator -- >> mr. trump, i want to get to audience questions and online questions. >> you're going respond now. this tape is generating intense interest, the single most talked-about story of the 2016 election on facebook, with millions and millions of people discussing it. as we said, we want to bring in questions from voters around the country via social media. our first stays on this topic. jeff from ohio asks, trump says
when did that happen? so, mr. trump, let me add to that, when you walked off that bus at age 59, were you a different man, or did that behavior continue until just recently? >> that was locker room talk. i'm not proud of it. i am a person who has great respect for people, for my family, for the people of this country, and certainly i'm not proud of it. but that was something tha happened. if you look at bill clinton, far worse, mine are words, and his are action. there's never been anybody in the history of politics of this nation that's been so abusive to women. hillary clinton attacked those same women. and attacked them viciously, four of them here tonight.
wonderful woman, at 12 years old, was raped at 12. her client, she represented, got him off, and she's seen laughing on two separate occasions laughing at that girl who was raped. kathy shelton is here tonight. don't tell me about words. absolutely, i apologize for those words. but it is things that people say. but what president clinton did, he was impeached, lost his license to practice law, had to pay an $850,000 fine to one of the women, paula jones, also here tonight. and i will tell you, that when hillary brings up a point like that, and talks about words that i said 11 years ago, i think it's disgraceful, and i think she should be ashamed of herself, if you want to know the
[ applause ] >> can we please hold the applause? secretary clinton, you have two minutes. >> well, first, let me start by saying, so much of what he's just said is not tright. but he gets to run his campaign any way he chooses, decides what he wants to talk about, instead of answering questions, laying out the plans we have we think can make a better life and a better country. that's his choice. when i hr i'm reminded of what my friend, michelle obama, advised us all. when they go low, you go high. [ applause ] and, look, if this were just about one video, maybe what he's saying tonight would be understandable. but everyone can draw their own conclusions at this point about
video or on stage respects women. but he never apologizes for anything to anyone. he never apologized to mr. and mrs. khan, the gold star family, whose son died in iraq. donald attacked them and insulted them for weeks over their religion. he never apologized to the distinguished federal judge, born in indiana. but donald said he couldn't be trusted to be a judge because his parents were, quot quote "mexican." he never apologized to the reporter he mocked on national television and our children were watching. and he never apologized for the racist lie that president obama was not born in the united states of america.
apology, and our country, and he need to take responsibility for his actions and his words. >> well, you owe the president an apology because as you know very well, your campaign's sidney blumenthal, another real winner that you have. he got this started, and your campaign manager was on tv saying that two weeks sent the pictures around with president obama in a certain garb. so, you actually owe an apology. number two, michelle obama. i've gotten to see the commercials they did on you. some of the most vicious commercials i've ever seen, of michelle obama talking about you. you talk about friend, go back
commercials, a race where you lost, fair and square, unlike the bernie sanders race, where you won, but not fair and square, in my opinion. and all you have to do is take a look at wikileaks and see what they said about bernie sanders and see what debra wasserman schultz had in mind. i was so surprised to see him sign on with the devil. but when you lk i think the one and the thing you should be apologizing for are the 33,000 e-mails you deleted, and acid washed, and the e-mails taken from an office last week and are now missing. and i hate to say this, but if i win, i'm going to instruct my
your situation, because there has never been so many lies, so much deception, there has never been anything like it, and we're going to have a special prosecutor. when i speak, i go out and speak, the people of this country are furious. in my opinion, the people that are long term workers at the fbi are furious. there has never been anything like this, you get a subpoena, e-mails. and then you acid wash, or bleach them, a very expensive process. we're going to look into it, because people have been, their lives have been destroyed for doing one-fifth of what you've done, and it's a disgrace. >> secretary clinton i want to follow up on that. >> everything he just said is absolutely false. but i'm not surprised.
>> the audience needs to calm down here. >> i was told it would be impossible to be fact-checking donald all the time. i'd never get to talk about how we want to make lives better for people. go to hillaryclinton.com. you can fact check him in real time. last time, the first debate, we had millions of people fact checking. so, i expect we'll have more fact-checking. it's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of donald trump is not in charge of the law in our country. >> because you'd be in jail. >> secretary clinton -- [ applause ] >> we want to remind the audience to please not talk out loud. please do not applaud. you're just wasting time.
said your handling of e-mails was a mistake, you disagreed with james comey's characterizing your handling of the e-mail. >> martha, let me say, and i've said it before, and i'll repeat it. that was a mistake, and i take responsibility forsi personal e-mail account. obviously, if i were to do it over again, i would not. i'm not making any excuses. it was a mistake, and i'm very sorry about that. but i think it's also important to point out where there are some misleading accusations from critics and others. after a yearlong investigation, there is no evidence that anyone
and there is no evidence that anyone can point to at all, anyone who says otherwise has no basis, that any classified material ended up in the wrong hands. i take classified materials very seriously, and always have. as secretary of state, i had some of the most important secrets that we going after bin laden. so, i'm very committed to taking classified information seriously, and there's no evidence that information ended up in the wrong hands. >> but she didn't know the letter "c" on a document, what that letter meant. i'm watching hillary go over fact, and she's going after fact
again, because she said she, what she did with the e-mails was fine. you think it was fine to delete 33,000 e-mails? she said they had to do with her daughter's wedding and a yoga class. 33,000 e-mails deleted, and she's saying there wasn't anything wrong? that was after she got a subpoena from the united states and i'm so disappointed in congressmen, including republicans for allowing this to happen. our justice department, her husband talks to the attorney general days before a ruling is made in her case. but for you to say that there was nothing wrong with you deleting 39,000 e-mails, again, you should be ashamed of yourself. what you did, after getting a
congress. >> we have to move on. >> -- let alone after getting a subpoena. >> secretary clinton, you can respond but then we have to move on. >> it's not true. personal e-mails, not official -- we turned over 35,000. >> what about the other 15,000. >> please allow >> i'd like to get to the questions that people have brought here tonight to talk about. >> and get off this question. >> okay, donald, i know you're into big diversion tonight, anything to avoid talking about your campaign and the way it's exploding and republicans are leaving you. >> let's see what happens. >> let her respond.
>> ken has a question about health care. >> anderson, why aren't you bringing up the e-mails? >> we brought up the e-mails. >> it hasn't been, and it hasn't been finished at all. >> it's one on three. >> ken has a question. >> affordable care act, known as obama care, is not what will you do to bring the costs down and make coverage better? >> that first one goes to secretary clinton, because you started out the last one to the audience. >> he wants to start, he can start. >> go ahead, donald. >> no, i'm a gentleman, go ahead. >> secretary clinton? >> i think donald was going to say, he's going to solve it by repealing it and getting rid of
i'm going to fix it. i agree, premiums, deductibles, prescription costs are too high. and i have a plan to bring them down. but when we talk about reining in the cost, but when the affordable care act passed, it wasn't just that 20 million people got health care for the first time. but it's a good thing, people tell me all the time what having the insurance meant to their families. but the 170 million of us who get health insurance from our employers got big benefits. you can't be denied coverage due to a pre-existing condition. no lifetime limits.
than men for health insurance. number four, if you're under 26 and your parents have a policy, you can be on that policy. so, i want very much to save what works and is good about the affordable care act. but we've got to get costs down, provide additional help to small businesses, so they can to provide health insurance. but if we repeal it and start over, as donald has proposed, all of those benefits are lost to everybody, not just people who get their health insurance on the exchange. and then we start all over again. right now, we're at 90% health insurance coverage. >> secretary clinton, your time is up. >> i want to get to 100%, but
up. >> mr. trump, you have two minutes. >> it's a great question, and i get it almost more than anything else outside of defense. obama care is a disaster. you know it, we all know it. it's going up at numbers that nobody has ever seen worldwide. nobody has ever seen numbers like this for health care. it's only getting worse. in '17, it implodes by itself. their method o asking congress for more money. obama care will never work, it's very bad health insurance. far too expensive for our country, and for the person that has it. we have to repeal it and replace it with something much less exten expensi expensive, and something that
where your plan can be tailored. we need to get rid of the artificial lines around the state that stops insurance company from competing. they want to leave those lines because that gives insurance companies monopolies. she wants to go to a single payer plan, like canadians, when they need a big operation, they come to the united states in many cases, because their system is so slow, it's catastrophic. she wants to go to single payer, which means the government rules everything. hillary clinton has been after this for years. obama care is the first step, and it's a total disaster.
up. unless you get hit by a truck, you're never going to be able to use it. it's a disastrous plan, and has to be repealed. >> and secretary clinton, was he mistaken or was his mistake simply telling the truth? >> well, we're in a situation in our country, if all over again, we might come up with a different system. but we have an employer based system. that's where the vast majority of people get their health care. and the affordable care act was meant to span the gap between people that can't afford it, and
people who were employed, but were working but didn't have the money to afford insurance. and didn't have anybody, an employer, or anybody else, to help them. that was the slot that the obama care approach was to take. and 20 million people now have health insurance. if we just rip it up and throw it away, what donald isn't telling you, we just turn it back to the to do it the way they want. >> your time is up. >> you may not be able to have insurance because you can't afford it. so, let's fix what's broken about it, but let's not throw it away. >> let me follow up with you, mr. trump. >> just one thing. first of all, everything is broken about it. number two, bernie sanders said
bad jundgment. >> mr. trump, you've said you want to end obama care. you also want to make coverage available for people with pre-existing conditions. how will you do that? >> you are going to have plans that are so good, you're going to have so much competition in the insurance industry. president obama, by keeping those lines, the boundary lines around each state, was almost gone until just very toward the end of the passage of obama care. which by the way was a fraud. you know that, because jonathan grouper, the architect of obama care, he said it was a big lie. president obama said, you keep your doctor, you keep your plan. it's a fraud, and it doesn't work.
lines, you have competition, we can keep pre-existing, and people that don't have money, we're going to have people protected. and republicans feel this way, believe it or not, and strongly this way, we're going to block -- into the states so we'll be able to take care of people without the necessary funds to take care of themselves. >> thank you, mr. trump. >> candidates. >> there are 3.3 million muslimmuslims in the united states, and i'm one of them. with islamophobia on the rise, how will you help people? >> you're right about how it's a shame.
because there is a problem. whether we like it or not, we can be politically correct, but there's a problem. we have to be sure that muslims come in and report when they see something going on, when they see hatred going on. for example, in san bernardino. many people saw the bombs all over the apartment of the two people that killed 14 and wounded many, many, people. they'll never be the same. muslims have to report the problems when they and there's always a reason for everything. if they don't do that, it's a very difficult situation for our country. because you look at orlando, and you look at san bernardino, the world trade center, paris, these are radical islamic terrorists. and she won't even mention the word, nor will president obama.
to solve a problem, you have to be able to state what the problem is, or at least say the name. she and president obama won't say the name, but it's there. radical islamic terror. and before you solve it, you have to say the name. >> secretary clinton? >> well, thank you for asking your question. and i've heard this question from a lot of muslim americans across our country. because, unfortunately, there has been a lot of very divisive, dark things said about muslims. even someone like captain khan, the young man who sacrificed himself defending our country has been subject to attack by donald. first, we've had muslims in america since george washington.
well-known muslim, muhammad ali. my vision of america is an america where everyone has a place. if you're willing to work hard, do your part, you contribute to your community. that's what america is, that's what we want america to be for your children and grandchildren. it's also very shortsighted and dangerous to demagogic things that donald does. i've met with a lot of muslims, and i've heard that it's important to feel wanted, and included, and part of our country, part of our homeland security. that's what i want to see. i also intend to defeat isis, in
nations. right now, a lot of those nations are hearing what donald says and saying, why should we cooperate with the americans? we're not at war with islam. it's a mistake, and plays into the hands of the terrorists to act as though we are. i want a country where citizens like you and your family are just as welcome as anyone else. >> thank mr. trump, in december, you said this. donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutout of muslims entering the united states until we can figure out what the hell is going on. we have no choice. you said this week, the muslim ban is no longer your position. is that correct, and if so, was
test? >> first of all, captain khan is an american hero. and if i was president, he would be alive today. unlike her who voted for the war, i would not have had our people in iraq. the muslim ban is something that in some form has morphed into an extreme vetting from certain areas of the world. hillary clinton wants to allow -- >> answer the question. >> why don't you interrupt her? >> would you please explain whether or not the muslim ban stands. >> it's called extreme vetting.
550% increase over obama, people are coming into our country like we have no idea who they are, where they're from, what their feelings about our country is, and she wants 550% more. this is the great trojan horse of all times. i believe in building safe zones, and having other pay for them. the gulf states not carry their weight, but they have enough money. and with all the problems we have, hundreds of thousands of people coming in from syria, we know nothing about them or their values, and we know nothing about their love for our country. >> secretary clinton, let me ask you about that. because you have asked for an increase from 10,000 to 65,000 syrian refugees. we know you want tougher
why take the risk of having the refugees come into the country? >> first of all, i will not let anyone come into the country that poses a risk to us. but there are a lot of women and children, the 4-year-old boy with the blood on his forehead because he'd been bombed by the russian and syrian air forces. there are children suffering in this catastrophic war, i believe, because of russian aggression. and we need to do our part. we by no means are carrying anywhere near the load that europe and others are. but we will have vetting that is as tough as it needs to be from our professionals, intelligence experts, and others. but it's important for us, as a
said, we're going to ban people based on a religion. how do you do that? we're a country founded on religious freedom and liberty. how do we do that without causing great distress within our own country? are we going to have religious tests when people fly into your country? and how can we expect to be able i thought what he said was extremely unwise and even dangerous. and you can look at the propaganda on a lot of the terrorist sites. a lot of what donald trump says about muslims is used to recruit fighters. because they want to create a war between us. and the final thing i will say, this is the tenth or 12th time
iraq. we have it on tape, it's been debunked but it never stops him from saying what he wants to say. >> it's not be debunked. i was against the war in iraq. >> there's been lots of fact checking on that. i'd like to move on to an online question. >> can i just respond to this, please. >> very quickly, please. >> hillary clinton, in terms of having people come into our country, we have many criminal illegal aliens. when we want to send them back, their country says, we don't want them, in some cases they're murders and drug lords. and i'm going to force them right back into their country. they're murders and some very bad people.
bad judgment, she has really bad judgment. we're letting drugs pour through our southern border at a record clip, and it can't happen. and i.c.e. just endoursed me, because i understand the border. she do she wants amnesty for everybody, come right over. it's a horrible thing she's doing, she has bad judgment, so bad, that she should never been the president of the united states. >> this comes from the debate coalition's online form, this
paid speeches which she has refused to release. and one line in which you purportedly say, you need both a public and private position on issues. so, this question, is it okay for politicians to be two-faced? is it acceptable for a politician to have a private stance on issues. secretary clinton? >> as i recall, that was something i said about abraham lincoln after having seen the wonderful steven spielberg movie called "lincoln". it was a master class watching president lincoln get the congress to approve the 13th amendment. it was principled, and it was strategic. and i was making the point that it is hard sometimes to get the congress to do what you want to do.
it. and yes, president lincoln was trying to convince some people, he used some arguments, convincing other people, he used other arguments. that was, i thought, a great display of presidential leadership. but let's talk about what's really going on. our intelligence community just said in the last few days, the kremlin, meaning russian government are directing the attacks, the hacking, on american accounts, to influence our election. and wikileaks are part of that, as are other sites. the russians hack information, and put it out. we have never in the history of our country been in a situation
so hard to influence the outcome of the election. and believe me, they're not doing it to get me elected. they're doing it to try to influence the election for donald trump. maybe because he's praised putin, maybe because he says he agrees with what putin wants to do, i don't know the reasons. but we deserve answers, and we should demand that donald release all of his tax returns, so people entanglements and financial relationships he has. >> i think i should respond, because it's so ridiculous. look. now she's blaming, she got caught in a total lie, her papers went out to her friends at the banks, and said things in the wikileaks that just came out. she lied, and blaming the lie on
honest abe never lied. that's the big difference between abraham lincoln and you. that's a big, big difference. we're talking about some difference. but as far as other elements of what she's saying. i don't know putin. i think it would be great if we got along with russia, we could fight isis together. but anything something happens, they like to say the russians did it. they think they're trying to tarnish me with russia. i know nothing about are yrussi. i know about russia, but i have no businesses, no loans, i have a great balance sheet, the united states government, because of my balance sheet, which they actually know very
post office between the white house and congress, one of the primary things, it was balance sheet. but i have no loans with russia. you can go to the united states government, and they would probably tell you that, because they know my sheet very well, in order to get that development. the taxes are a very simple thing. as soon as -- first off, i pay hundreds of millions of in taxes. warren buffett took a massive deduction, soros, many of the people giving her money, took massive deductions. i pay hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes. as soon as my routine audit is finished, i'll release my taxes. i'll be proud to.
from spencer moss. spencer? >> good evening. my question is, what specific tax provisions will you change to ensure the wealthiest americans pay their fair share? >> mr. trump? >> one of the greatest provisions for people like me, i give up a lot when i run, because i knock out the tax code. she could have done this years ago, she was a united states senator. she complains that donald trump took advantage of the tax code. why didn't you change it when you were a senator? because all of your friends take the same advantage that i do. and i do. you have provisions you could change, but you didn't because all of these people give you the money so you can take negative ads on donald trump. and i've heard hillary complain about things for so many years,
years, and she will never change. we're getting rid of carried interest provisions, i'm lowering taxes, because i think it's important for corporations, getting rid of regulations, going hand in hand with the lowering of the taxes. cutting taxes for the middle class, and i will tell you, we're cutting them big-league for the middle class. and hillary clinto your taxes, folks. really high. and what that's going to do is a disaster for the country. but she's raising your taxes, and i'm lowering your taxes. we're going to be thriving again. there's no growth in the
we're at 1%, and we're going lower, in my opinion. and a lot of it is because our taxes are so high. i think it's so important, one of the most important things we can do. but she's raising everybody's taxes massively. >> secretary clinton? which provisions will change to ensure the wealthy pay fair share of taxes? >> well, everything donald trump just said isn't true. it's amoususing to hear what he going to do, because he hasn't paid federal taxes in about 20 years. but he will give the wealthy and
cuts. this will be massive gift. the way he talks about his tax cuts would end up raising taxes on millions of middle class families. here's what i want to do. i have said nobody who makes less than $250,000 a year, that's the vast majority of americans, will have their taxes raised. i think we need to go where the money is, and that's people that have taken advantage of every single break in the tax code. and yes, when i was a senator, i did vote to close corporate loopholes, one that he used when he claimed a $1 billion loss. i want to get rid of the buffett rule, warren buffett said he
we have to make up for lost times, because i want to invest in you, in hard-working families. and it's been unfortunate, but it's happened, since the great recession, the gains have all gone to the top. and we need to reverse that. people like donald who paid zero in taxes, for our vets, military, health, and education, that's wrong. and we're corporation can get away without paying their fair share to our country. >> in the last month, taxes were the number one issue on facebook. and you claimed a $916 million loss, you've said you pay state,
did you use that $916 million loss to avoid paying federal taxes? >> of course i do. and so do her donors. a lot of my writeoff was depreciat depreciation. and i understand the tax code better than anybody that has ever run for president. it's extremely complex. hillary clinton has friends that want all of these provisions, the carried interest provision, which i believe hillary is leaving. but i will tell you, number one, i pay tremendous numbers of taxes. i absolutely used it, and so did
and many of the other people hillary is getting money from. >> can you say how many years you have avoided paying personal federal income taxes? >> no, but i pay tax, i have a lot of writeoffs, i love depreciation, if she had a problem, for 30 years, she's been doing this. i say it all the time. she talks about taxes, why didn't she do anything about it? she doesn't do anything about anything other than talk. with her, it's all talk and no action. and again, bernie sanders, it's really bad judgment. not only on taxes, but libya, syria, iraq, her and obama, whether you like it or not, the way they got out of iraq, the vacuum they've left, that's why
they started from that little area, and now they're in 32 different nations. congratulations, great job. >> i want you to respond, secretary clinton. >> here we go again. i've been in favor of getting rid of carried interest for years. starting when i was a senator from new york. >> why didn't you do it? >> because i was a senator with a when i'm president, i will get it done. >> if you were an effective senator, you would have done it. >> please allow her to respond. >> under our constitution, presidents have something called veto power. look, he's now said repeatedly, 30 years this, 30 years that. let me talk about my 30 years in public service. i'm very glad to do so.
health insurance, because when i was first lady, i worked to create the children's health insurance program. i worked to change the adoption and foster care system. after 9/11, i worked to get health care for our first responders. hundreds of thousands of national guard and members have health care because of work that i did. and children have safer medicines because i was able to pass a law that required the dosing to be more carefully done. when i was secretary of state, i went around the world advocated for our country, but also for women's rights, so they would have a decent chance for a
and negotiated a treaty with russia to have less nuclear weapons. 400 pieces of legislation have my name on them, and i was re-elected, and as president, i will take that bipartisan work, finding common glouround. i've proven i can get people and have produced results for 30 years. >> we're going to move to syria. >> she's said a lot of things that are false. she's been a disaster as a senator. >> we're going to move on. the heartbreaking video of a 4-year-old boy after being
focused the world on what's going on in syria. but there are much worse images coming out of aleppo, hundreds killed there in the past few weeks. and the state department calling for an investigation into the bombardment of aleppo. diane from pennsylvania you were president, what would you do about syria and the humanitarian crisis in aleppo. isn't it a lot like the holocaust when the u.s. waited too long to help? secretary clinton? >> well the situation in syria is catastrophic. every day that goes by, we see the results of the regime by
iranians and russians, bombing in particular aleppo, 250,000 people still left there. and there's a determined effort by the russian air force to destroy aleppo in order to eliminate the last of the syrian rebels who are holding out against assad. russia to isis. when i as secretary of state advocated a no-fly zone and safe zones, we need some leverage with the russians, because they're not going to come to the negotiating table for a diplomatic resolution unless there's some leverage over them.
with our partners on the ground. but i want to emphasize that what is at stake here is the ambitions and aggressiveness of russia. they've decided they're all-in, in syria, and they've decided who they want to become president of the united states, and it's not me. i've stood up to russia and putin, and that's what as president. we got a treaty reducing nuclear weapons, and how we got the sanctions on iran. so, i would go to the negotiating table with more leverage than we have now. but i do support the effort to investigate for war crimes committed by the syrians and russians to hold them accountable.
the sand -- >> i was gone. >> well, you were in contact with the white house, and perhaps sadly obama probably still listened to you. i don't think he would listen to you very much anymore. obama draws the line in the stand. it was laughed at all over the world, what happened. with that being said, she talked tough against russia, but our nuclear program has fallen way behind, and they've gone wild with their nuclear problem. our government shouldn't have allowed that to happen. russia is new in terms of nuclear, we're old, tired, exhausted in terms of nuclear. she talks tough against putin. and against assad. she talks in favor of the rebels. she doesn't even know who the rebels are.
arming people. and you know what happens? they end up being worse than the people, look at what she did in libya with gadhafi out. and isis has a good chunk of their oil, it was a disaster. almost everything she's done in foreign policy has been a mistake and disaster. but if you look at russia, and look at what they did this week. where i agree, she wasn't there, but possibility she's we sign a peace treaty. what russia did with assad, and with iran, whom you made very powerful with the iran deal, $150 billion, $1.7 billion in cash, enough to fill up this room. but iran and russia are now against us. she wants to fight for rebels, there's only one problem.
are. >> your two minutes are up, mr. trump. >> i don't like assad at all, but he's killing isis. russia is killing isis. and iran is killing isis. >> mr. trump, let me repeat the question. if you were president, what would you do about syria and the humanitarian crisis in aleppo. and i want to your running mate said. he said, provocations with russia need to be met with american strength. if they continue to be involved with air strikes with assad, the united states of america should be prepared to use military force to strike the military targets of the assad regime. >> he and i haven't spoken, and i disagree. right now, syria is fighting
both. syria is russia, and it's iran, it's no longer syria. i believe we have to get isis. we have to worry about isis before we can get too much more involved. she had a chance, they had a chance to get something done with syria. >> what do you think will if aleppo falls? >> i think that, it basically has fallen. let me tell you something. you look at mosul, the biggest problem i have with the stupidity of our foreign policy. they think a lot of the isis leaders are in mosul.
leaders leave. why can't we do a sneak attack, and after the attack is made, inform the american public that we've knocked out the leaders, we've had tremendous success. people leave. why do we say we're going to attack mosul within the next four to six weeks. how stupid is our country? >> there are reasons the military does that. psychological warfare, to get civilians out. >> i have 21 congressional medal of honor recipients who endorse me. we talk about it all the time. why can't they do something secretly, go in, knock out the leadership. why would these people stay there. i've been reading for weeks about mosul, it's the harbor, this is where they think the
why would they be saying -- they're not staying there anymore. they're gone. because everybody is talking about how iraq, which is us, with our leadership, goes in to fight mosul. with these 200 admirals and generals, they can't believe it. general george patton, general douglas macarthur, are spinning in their graves. >> secretary clinton, you want arming rebels. but it looks like that may be too late. would you introduce the threat of u.s. military force beyond a no-fly zone against the assad regime to back up diplomacy? >> i would not use american ground forces in syria. i think that would be a very serious mistake. i don't think american troops
which is what they would have to do as an occupying force. i do think the use of special forces, which we're using. the use of enablers and trainers in iraq, which has had some positive effects, are very much in our interests. >> what would you do differently than what president obama is doing? >> i hope that by the time i am president, that we will have pushed isis out of iraq. i do think that there is a good chance that we can take mosul, and donald says he knows more about isis than the generals. no, he doesn't. there are a lot of very important planning going on, and some of it is to signal to the
we should all be in it. i would go after baghdadi, because i think our targeting of al qaeda leaders, i was involved in a number of those operations, made a difference. i would also consider arming the kurds, they have been our best partners in syria and iraq. about that, but i think they should have the equipment they need so they're the principal way we take raqqa. >> she went over a minute over, and you don't stop her. when i go one second over, you stop me. it's very interesting. >> a question from mr. james carter. mr. carter?
believe you can be a devoted president to all the people in the united states? >> that question is for mr. trump. >> absolutely. she calls our people deplorable, a large group. and irredeemable. i will be a president for all ou inner cities around, and will give strength to people, and will give economics to people, and will bring jobs back. because nafta is perhaps the greatest disaster in trade history of the world. stripped us of manufacturing jobs, we lost jobs, money, plants, it's a disaster. and now she wants to sign tpp.
and at the last debate, she lied, they said that she lied. but she's lied about a lot of things. i would be a president for all of the people. african-americans, the inner cities, devastating what's happened to our inner cities. she's been talking about for years, but as usual, nothing happens. she doesn't get it done. same with the latino and hispanic americans. the same, exact thing. they talk, they don't get it done. you go into the inner cities, 45% poverty. african-americans, 45% poverty in the inner cities. the education is a disaster. jobs are essentially nonexistent. it's, you know, i've been saying it, big speeches where i have 20,000 and 30,000 people. what do you have to lose?
inner cities for 25 years. nothing is ever going to happen. it's just going to be talk if she's president of the united states. and all of the taxes, her friends that we were talking about. and by doing all the others favors, she's doing me a favor. but i will tell you, she's all talk, it doesn't get done. >> your two minutes is up. you have two minutes, secretary clinton. >> 67% of the people voted to reelect me when i ran for my second term, and i was proud and humbled by that. mr. carter, i have tried my entire life to do what i can to support children and families.
i've been in public service. i'm proud of that. i started as a young lawyer working against discrimination against african-american children in schools and the justice system. i have worked with latinos, one of my first jobs in politics was down in south texas registering latino citizens to be able to vote. so i have a deep devotion to use your absolutely correct word, to make sure that every american feels like he or she has a place in our country. i think when you look at the letters that i get, a lot of people are worried maybe they wouldn't have a place in donald trump's america.
fel felix, adopted from ethiopia. he said to his mother one day, will he send me back to ethiopia if he gets elected? children listen to what is being said, to go back to the very, very first question. and there's a lot of fear, teachers and parents are calling it the trump effect. bullying is up, a lot of people are feeling uneasy. concerns. i will try to reach everyone, democrats, independents, republicans. i want to be the best president i can be for all americans. >> you said that half of donald trump's supporters are deplora
regretted saying half. how can you unite a country when you've written off millions of people? >> well, my argument is not with his supporters, it's with him, and the hateful and divisive campaign he's run, and the inciting of violence, and the comments about not just and what he has said about african-americans and latinos, about muslims, about p.o.w.s, immigrants, people with disabilities, he's never apologized for. and so, i do think that a lot of the tone and tenor he's set, i'm proud of the campaign that bernie sanders and i ran.
he's supporting me 100%. we may have had a lot of differences, but we believed we could make the country better. >> thank you, you have a minute. >> we have a very divided nation. you look at charlotte, baltimore, the violence taking place in the inner cities, chicago, washington, d.c., we have an increase in murder. with inner cities, the in 45 years. we have a divided nation, because of people like her. she has tremendous hate in her heard, when she said deplorables, and irredeemable, to me, that might have been even worse. >> she said some of them are irredeemable. >> she has tremendous hatred, and this country can't take another four years of barack
getting. >> in 2008, mr. trump, you wrote that the most important characteristic of a leader is discipline. in the days after the first debate, you sent a series of tweets from 3:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m., including one that said to check out a sex tape. >> it wasn't to check out a sex tape. and when she said 3:00 look at benghazi. she said, who's going to answer the call at 3:00 a.m.? she didn't answer because when ambassador stevens -- 600 times, she said she was awake at 3:00 a.m. in the morning. and also sent a tweet out at 3:00 a.m. guess what happened, ambassador stevens sent 600 requests for help.
was sidney blumenthal, her friend, and not a good guy, by the way. but tweeting happens to be a modern day form of communication. you can like it or not like it. it's a very effective way of communicat communication. you can put it down, but it's very effective. i'm not unproud of it, to be honest with you. trump have the discipline to be a good leader? >> no. >> i'm shocked to hear that. >> it's not only my opinion, it's the opinion of many others. national security experts, republicans, former republican members of congress. but it's in part because those of us who have had the great privilege of seeing this job up close, and know how difficult it
watched my husband take a $300 billion deficit, and turn it into a $200 billion surplus. and incomes went up for everybody. it's not just because i worked with george w. bush after 9/11, and when i told him what the city needed to recover, he said, he stuck with me. and president obama, i worked with him, he inherited the worst financial crisis since the great depression. we're back on the right track. he would send us back into recession. >> secretary clinton, we're almost out of time. we have another -- mr. trump,
question. mr. trump, secretary clinton, we want to get to the audience. thank you very much, both of you. we have another audience question, beth miller has a question for both candidates. >> good evening. perhaps the most important aspect of this election is the supreme court justice. what would you prioritize as the most important selecting a supreme court justice? >> secretary clinton? >> you're right, this is one of the most important issues in this election. i want to appoint supreme court justices who understand the way the world works, who have real-life appearance, maybe they tried more cases, understand what people are up against.
gone in the wrong direction. so i would want to see the supreme court reverse citizens united, and get dark money out of our politics. donald doesn't support that. voting rights are a big part of our country, we don't always do everything to ensure that everybody can franchise. i want a supreme court that will stick with roe "v" wade. and donald trump has put together some candidates, and they will reverse roe "v" wade
i want a supreme court that understands, you shouldn't have any more rights than anybody else. i want to change the balance of the supreme court, and i regret that the congress has not done its job, and has not given the candidate put forward by president obama a vote. that was a dereliction of duty. if i'm so fortunate enough as to be president, i will immediately move to make sure that we fill that, we have nine justices. >> thank you. mr. trump? >> justice scalia, great judge. died recently. and we have a vacancy.
very much in the mold of justice scalia. i'm looking for judges, and i've actually picked 20 of them. so that people would see, highly respected, highly thought-of, and actually very beautifully reviewed by just about everybody. but people that will respect the constitution of the united states. and i think that this is so also the second amendment, which is totally under siege by people like hillary clinton, they will respect the second amendment, so important to me. and hillary said something about contin contributions. i will put $100 million of my money, i'm putting in more than
much self-funding mine, we're raising money for the republican party. i asked hillary, she made $250 million by being in office. she used the power of her office to make a lot of money. why isn't she funding, not for $100 million, but why not $10 or $20 or campaign? it would be a nice sign to the american public? you have a lot of money, you made a lot of it because of the fact that you have be in office. you made a lot of it while you were secretary of state, actually. so, why aren't you putting money into your own campaign. >> the question was about the supreme court. i respect the second amendment,
comprehensive background checks and close the loophole. >> we have one more question, from ken bone, about energy policy. ken? >> what steps will your energy policy take to meet our energy needs while remaining environmentally friendly, and minimizing job loss for power plant workers? >> mr. trump? >> energy is under siege by president obama. the epa is killing energy companies, and foreign companies are buying the plants and rejiggering the plant so they can take care of their oil. we're killer our energy business
i'm all for alternative forms of energy, wind, solar, but you look at our miners. hillary clinton wants to put miners out of business. there is a thing called clean coal. it will last for 1,000 years in our country. now we have natural gas, over the last seven found tremendous wealth under our feet. i will bring our energy companies back, they'll make money, pay off our national debt, our tremendous budget deficits. but we're putting our energy companies out of business. we have to bring back our workers. you take a look at what's happening to steel and the cost of steel, and china dumping vast amounts of steel all over the
our steel workers and steel companies. we have to guard our energy companies. the epa is so restrictive, they're putting our energy companies out of business. just go to great place like west virginia or ohio, which is phenomenal, or pennsylvania, and you'll see what they're doing to the people, miners and others, in the energy business. it's a >> your time is up. >> secretary clinton, two minutes. >> well, that was very interesting. first of all, china is illegally dumping steel in the united states, and donald trump is buying it to build his buildings. putting american steel workers and steel plants out of business. that's something i fought against as a senator, and i would have a trade prosecutor to
advantage of by china on steel or anything else. you know, because it sounds like you are aware of the business, we're for the first time, energy independent. we're not dependent on the middle east, but the middle east still controls a lot of the prices. the price of oil is way down, and that's had a damaging effect on the energy companies. we're proci i think that's an important transition. we've got to remain energy independent. it gives us much more power and freedom than to be worried about what goes on in the middle east. we have enough worries over there without being worried about that. i want too fight climate change,
clean, renewable energy, as quickly as we can. i think we can be the 21st century clean energy superpower, and create millions of new jobs and businesses. that's why i'm the only candidate who had a plan to help us revitalize coal country. the miners and their fathers and grandfathers, they dug that coal out, a lot of them lost lives, got injured but they powered our factories. the price of coal is down worldwide, and that's what i've proposed. >> we have time for one more audience question. >> this comes from karl becker.
is, regardless of current rhetoric, would either of you name one positive thing that you respect in one another? [ applause ] >> mr. trump, would you like to go first? well, i certainly will. because i think that's a very fair and important question. look, i his children are incredibly able, and devoted, and i think that says a lot about donald. i don't agree with nearly anything else he says or does, but i do respect that, and i that is something, as a mother and grandmother, is very important to me. so, i believe that this election
conflict-oriented, so intense, because there's a lot at stake. this is not an ordinary time, and this is not an ordinary election. we are going to be choosing a president who will set policy for not just 4 or 8 years, but because of some of the important decisions we need to make at home and around the world, from the supreme court and energy and so much else, there is a lot at stake. it's one of the most consequential elections we've had. that's why i have tried to put forth specific policies and plans, and that's why i hope people will check on that for themselves. yes, i've spent 30 years, actually, maybe a little bit more, working to help kids and
and i want to take that experience to the white house and do that every single day. >> mr. trump? >> i've very proud of my children, and they've done a wonderful job, and they've been wonderful, wonderful kids. so, i consider that a compliment. i will say this about hillary. she doesn't quit. she doesn't give up. i respect that. i tell it like it is. she's a i disagree with much of what she's fighting for. i do disagree with her judgment in many cases. but she does fight hard, doesn't quit, and i consider that to be a very good trait. >> thanks to both of you. >> i want to thank both of the candidates, the university here. this concludes the town hall meeting.
19th for the final presidential debate that will take place at the university of nevada, las vegas. good night, everyone. [ applause ] >> as we keep our eyes on the stage, there was no handshake at the beginning, let's see if there is one at the end. there it is. donald trump and hillary clinton, ending on a positive note. not the way the debate started, with a lot of fireworks at the beginning. donald trump called to account for that tape, he dismissed it as locker room talk, but did apologized. hillary clinton used that to question his fitness to serve as president. he came in with counterpunches, accusing bill clinton of sexual harassment, calling out hillary clinton on her e-mails, even saying as president, he would
look into the e-mails, saying at one point she should be in jail. talking about taxes, what to do in syria and the middle east. i want to bring this to matthew dowd. we did see the fireworks at the top. donald trump providing some comfort to some of his supporters by how he took it t hillary clinton. my question is, did he win any new votes tonight? >> well, the way this started, i thought it was going to be an extreme low, but ended as a high. but in the debate, donald trump came in behind, and he was falling in the polls. he needed a win, and when you look at the points of the
moments. some lows on both sides. but i think you may give slight points to her in winning the debate, but she's going to walk out with a pretty solid lead, and donald trump only has one opportunity left, the next debate. >> and when the question of syria came up, mr. trump was asked about what mike pence said at the debate last week, when he said, he thinks states should be prepared to take military action against the al assad regime. he said he disagrees. >> yes, this comes at a curious time, because the last time we heard from mike pence about donald trump was in response to the video. now, he said, let's see what's
the campaign, and you saw the tweets, it blew up almost immediately. did trump just split with his running mate? it's a tough time. >> and the town halls always lead to questions about body language, how the candidates approach when the other candidate is speaking. >> looming over her, at times appeared to be stalking her. that's what twitter lit up with, with women. tweeting, saying, he's stalking her, it's a strategy used to make women look small and feel vulnerable. i'm not sure hillary clinton felt that way, but it is the way it came across. but he didn't do anything to make more of the republicans go away from him.
and mike pence were looking tonight, they didn't see anything to say, i'm gone. >> and jon, you're in the hall tonight. we talked about that at the beginning of this debate, there had been so many defections over the last 48 hours. do you believe that that bleeding has stopped? >> my sense is, he has stopped the bleeding. i don't think that anything to save himself with republicans that have already jumped ship, but i think he will stop the wholesale bleeding. the republicans will applaud the attacks on hillary clinton, will make it harder for republican leaders to jump ship. but the absolute public silence
leaders during the course of this debate. some were tweeting about other things. scott walker tweeted about the fact that he was watching the packers game during this debate. >> that is fascinating. i want to go to byron pitts, tonight, both candidates accused the other of raising taxes on the middle class. >> yes, trump said hillary clinton is raising taxes really high. here a on hillary clinton's website, she says she plans to raise taxes only on the top 3%, we rate the claim by mr. trump as mostly false. >> and hillary clinton's claim about his taxes?
middle class families. we conclude the comments by secretary clinton to be true. >> matthew, does this debate tonight stop the discussion about the tape we saw on friday? >> no, i think this tape will be part of the conversation. there are two reasons for that. there are likely to be other things that come out. and second, donald trump made a statement tonight. in the stem was was talk. i never did those things that i said i did. which leaves a very wide opening for someone to show up to say that he had done those things to. >> and vice president biden and others saying it was sexual harassm harassment. >> sexual assault, they said.
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there's the spin room, the campaigns sending their surrogates to talk about what happened tonight. tom llamas, what are you hearing? >> george, i was texting with the campaign manager for the trump campaign. she claims victory, says donald trump did terrific, and said they won by putting hillary clinton on the defensive. but i did notice campaign chairman steve bannon hugging donald trump with a big smile.
assault. but by the end, the major break with pence on russia. even though it's a bad headline, it's not as bad as the other one. >> and after all the talk of mike pence trying to decide what to do, he tweeted moments ago, congrats to donald trump on a big debate win. proud to stand with you as we make america great again. >> and i tom, in the spin room. we saw the accusers of bill clinton in the front row, and we were told they may come back to talk to reporters. is that happening? >> we're waiting for them to come out right now. so far, we haven't seen them. we know that donald trump has
that stood with donald trump before the debate. and he mentioned them, brought them up in relation to bill clinton. if they come out, we'll definitely speak with them. >> and you're saying he's left the building? >> that's right, we do not expect him to come here. campaign sources say he's not going to come out here. for the first time i've ever covered him in a think, he's not coming to the spin room. >> cecilia vega, what are they telling you? >> here's some of the words, a desperate attempt by donald trump, others called it a sideshow to detract from the
with hillary clinton. but one clinton campaign staffer used a profanity toward donald trump on twitter, having to apologize. >> they thought he was just too tough with the captain khan comment? >> i can't tell you what the tweet said, because we couldn't air it on television. but they say did a desperate attempt to try to distract from the issues. they say hillary clinton will win over undecided female voters, especially that all-important demographic they're both trying to win, when it comes to women. >> and that moment on the stage, donald trump said, had i been president, captain khan would still be alive.
expletive on twitter. >> and it was in 2003, when george w. bush was in office. >> well, he brought up the e-mails and benghazi, and she got out just fine. >> and undecided, watching this debate, the last one, and the last six probably not going to vote. >> and the undecideds are not engaged. and voting has already begun in most of the country. >> and they're banking vote after vote, even if somehow donald trump was to come back in the final days, so many votes have been banked, unless the
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and we are back. i want to go back to cecilia vega in the spin room. talking about the anger on the clinton side, they're expressing anger about the way donald trump conducted himself on the stage? >> some raising an issue with how close he got to her, like he was menacingly stalking. what happened tonight. >> and othat's all for us right. our coverage continues on abcnews.com right now. for much of the country, your local news. we'll talk about it tomorrow on
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