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starting right now on "this week" with george stephanopoulos. donald trump transitions from presidential candidate to president-elect. >> tremendous talent. people that as i say we will make america great again. >> already fierce questions about his intended nominees. what do his presidential picks reveal about his first 100 days? we ask trump choef chief of staff reince priebus, former cia director and our experts here live. plus -- >> welcome to the dawn of a new unified republican government. >> america in transition. how will the democratic party define its path forward. >> let's look where we are. is this a mandate for donald trump? >> it's not a mandate. we're going to go after him tooth and name. >> we're one on one with senate
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a new president about to take control. what can we expect on day one? from abc news, it's "this week." here now, coanchor, martha radd raddatz. good morning. welcome to "this week." the trump transition is shifting sea from the hustle and bustle of the big city to the country estate of the president-elect where this weekend donald trump played the graciou parade of cabinet prospects. this is not your usual transition. years passed all the work was done behind closed doors. the interviews private, off camera. but not this time. there's the president-elect welcoming mitt romney. discussing world affairs. letting bygones be bygones. he's being talked about as secretary of state. all smiles and handshakes after the meeting.
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the marine corp. legend being considered for secretary of defense making quite an impression. >> just a brilliant wonderful man. what a career. we're going to see what happens. but he is the real deal. >> but before we get too swept away by act two, we need to press pause, rewind. because this week we learned a lot about the next president, the bottom line, the man who is no stranger to controversy throughout the campaign will continue to court it. three moves this week, in particular, enraging some liberals cheered by trump's base. we'll dig into that with trump's new chief of staff reince priebus, former cia director and our own pierre thomas in a moment. first, what we learned this week. >> you'll be so proud of your president. you'll be so proud. >> first lesson, to the victor goes the spoils and for those who passed trump's loyalty test,
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>> jeff, come up. where's jeff. get over here, jeff. >> there's the early endorser senator jeff sessions. >> welcome to my hometown, mobile, alabama. >> sessions stuck with trump throughout the campaign. through the highs and lows. even after that access hollywood tape. >> exaggerating a little bit. i don't know he said he did that against their will. that's what i'm saying. >> his reward, the justice department. trump's other picks so far, loyalists who share his world view. reince priebus gets chief of staff. steve bannon, trump's chief strategist. mike flynn, national security adviser and mike pompeo gets the cia. a second lesson for trump, it's family first. >> this is the moment and donald trump is the person to make america great again. >> while we don't know if they
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white house trump's family appears to be wielding enormous influence in the transition. ivanka and her husband are the power couple to watch. here he is strolling the white house grounds with obama's chief of staff. and ivanka right there this week for trump's first meeting with the head of state. a third lesson of the week, trump will be trump. so get used to it. we saw that friday night in new york at the broadway show "hamilton" where there was some boos for vice pence. and an unusual direct appeal from the cast. >> we are the diverse america who are alarmed and anxious that your new administration will not protect us. >> so the president-elect who made this promise during the campaign -- >> i'm go to be so presidential that you people will be so board.
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the theater must always be a safe and special place, the cast of "hamilton" was very rude last night to a very good man, mike pence. apologize. and the fourth lesson, the election didn't settle the argument. in fact, we could be at the beginning of a long political and cultural war. trump's headlines already taking heat. flynn is under fire for calling islam a cancer and his tweet that fear of muslims is rational. bannon defending himself against charges of anti-semitism and racism and sessions who 30 years ago was rejected by the senate judiciary committee for a federal judgeship. >> i am not a racist, i am not insensitive to blacks. i supported civil rights activity in my state. >> denying those charges to this day. the next senate democratic leader chuck schumer told me sessions will get some hard questions. >> these are troubling things. and the only fair thing to do is
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thorough questions and then make an opinion. >> and let's dig deeper on that controversial pick for attorney general. senator jeff sessions. we're joined by our senior justice correspondent pierre thomas. good morning pierre. let me ask you how intense do you expect this confirmation process to be? >> extremely. the battle lines have been drawn. we saw a level friday we haven't seen for quite some time. you had the chairman of the congressional black caucus saying senator sessions civil rights record was appalling. leaders from the congressional hispanic caucus was equally harsh rhetoric. supporters of sessions saying he's a good man. he's got a long outstanding record they say. a person of high character. senator cruz calling him a man who would protect the constitution and the rule of law. but the drama however intense it may be, will be short lived in the sense that the republicans do control the senate, he will
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>> the harshest allegations is he's racially insensitive and some critics say racist but he has passionately denied that but was rejected as a federal court judge back in 1986. >> a lot of the allegations of racism, and that's a really charged allegation by the way, stem from that particular confirmation process which he was rejected in. a black colleague said that sessions called him quote, boy and that he ought to be careful about white folks. he passionately denied that. if you look back at the hearing, it was dripping -- anger was dripping from his lips as he described his disgust, and people who support him point out the fact that he has prosecuted members of the kkk and supported efforts to honor rosa parks. civil rights icon, rosa parks. >> so let's assume as you said that he is confirmed. what will we likely see at the
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>> i think you'll see pretty dramatic change quickly. number one, on the issue of immigration. he will be among those cheerleading trump to overturn all the executive actions that president obama took in terms of immigration, on transgender issues. the justice department has been supportive of transgender children going to public bathrooms with the sex they identify with. that's likely to change. and on the issue of race and policing. will he be as full throated in support of african-american communities are overlooked and neglected and sometimes treated unfairly by the police remains to be seen. >> just quickly, what about more investigations into hillary clinton or the clinton foundation? >> he has been very critical of the fbi's investigation of the hillary e-mails and suggested that the clinton foundation needs far more investigation. so stay tuned. >> thanks very much for joining us pierre. the president-elect also has big
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this week with the auto industry. he also had to settle a major lawsuit against trump university for $25 million. for more on that and his other legal challenges let's bring in our chief business and economics correspondent rebecca jarvis. good morning, rebecca. trump tweeted he settled the university case to focus on his presidency. do you think that's the reason and there are more cases out there with trump's name on them, so what does he do? >> reporter: martha, i've talked to a number of legal experts about this. there was little upside in letting this trump university case go to trial. the new york attorney general had called it a fraud from beginning to end. donald trump and his lawyers thought they had a case here. but when you get into the trials of cases like these first off, it could have been a distraction and second of all, they bring up private and business dealings that can frequently be embarrassing. these are not the kind of things
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have out there or even want to deal with. he has more than a dozen other cases, donald trump, where he is personally named and you will likely see those cases go the same direction. >> and you know trump strategist steve bannon is pushing for a trillion dollar infrastructure program. what are they envisioning and who would be the big economic winners there? >> reporter: well, we know the size of it. a trillion dollars. it's something steve bannon talked about this week. it is a major issue th d trump campaigned on. this infrastructure plan. one key question is how it might be paid for on the campaign trail donald trump talked about for example, potentially borrowing money with interest rates as low as they are but now the details seem to be inclined towards tax cuts for private companies, tax credits for private companies to do infrastructure programs. for example, building out our roads, bridges, waterways.
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companies might moneyize that. if you're a private company and building a bridge, you might want to put a toll on that bridge. that will be a question going forward and a question about how many jobs get resolved as a result of it. because of what types of projects we actually see happen. >> and quickly, more on jobs. was ford his first big win with the company saying they will not move some production to mexico or was his claim of victory a little misleading? >> jobs weren't at risk here. in fact, the mkc, the car in question that was supposed to be moved from the plant in kentucky to mexico was not going to cost any jobs. they were moving it to make more room for the ford escape, a popular car here in the united states. the mkc will stay in louisville, kentucky and not move to mexico to that pre-existing plant. that's a win in terms of keeping a car here in the united states but the issue was always going to be jobs neutral martha.
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and now let's bring in the president-elect's new chief of staff reince priebus. you see him yesterday joining in the transition meetings. mr. priebus joins us now. let's start with the meetings that president-elect trump had this weekend. what can you tell us about the meeting specifically with mitt romney, how likely is it he could be the next secretary of state? >> well, first of all, this all started back on that wednesday morning when president-elect trump said to all americans no matter who you are, your race, gender, background, look, i want to lead all of you, i want to make all of you proud of the work we're doing and he wants to be a president for all people. he's bringing america together. that's part of what happened yesterday with governor romney coming in bringing people in that were once rivals saying let's lead together, let's talk about the future of our country. they did talk about opportunities for governor romney to potentially be
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coming together moment to say i need to lead everyone, i need you onboard and i will tell you it was a very substantive conversation ranging from all levels of national security, domestic policy, foreign hot spots conversations that run the gamut and i will tell you it was a very, very good, cordial, personable, gracious meeting and nothing but positive. >> howik could be secretary of state? is that a possibility? >> well, i think anything is possible. but we're talking to a lot of people martha and certainly governor romney is a talented person and it's possible but we're also talking to a lot of others and you'll see the list today. folks coming in. obviously rudy giuliani has come in and nikki haley. general kelly is coming in today and many others for all of these positions. >> so giuliani is still a possibility for secretary of
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>> sure, of course. i think what americans really need to see though is a president-elect that's working 15 hours a day in meetings alone bringing in the most talented people in america to get advice, the counsel, the conversation, that's what i think people should take from these meetings and he ought to be commended for the work he's done in bringing our country together. >> let's talk about retired general jim mattis, a marine corp. legend. i can tell you right now the troops do love him. mr. trump seemed before impress bid him. what's the likelihood he could be secretary of defense? >> i think it's a very real possibility. but obviously, we've got more work to do martha. he is a hero of our country and for everyone in america. i think he's a figure that can bring america together. someone you can point to no matter who you are and say this
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would respect and someone certainly more than capable of leading the department of defense at a time when we need to get serious about isis and our security around the globe, whether it be china, north korea, syria, libya, you know as well martha, you're an expert at these things, we need leadership and certainly general mattis is a leader and president-elect trump loves leaders like general mattis. >> let's talk about another retired general and that would be mike flynn who he has chosen as national security adviser. he is highly admired for his work as an intelligence officer but has a history of controversial views about islam. he said in an interview in july and at a conference in august that islam is not a real religion but a political ideology masked behind a religion. is he in line how president trump views islam? >> i think so. phrasing can be done differently. clearly
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faith that are problematic and we know them. we have seen it. it certainly isn't a blanket for all people of that faith. but mike flynn is one of the most highly respected intelligence officers in america. certainly no one can deny that. he is someone that has been at donald trump's side for now a very long time. it's someone who the president-elect respects and trusts and he's an unbelievably gifted smart person that will lead that post with honor and dignity. >> let's talk about immigration. will president-elect trump suspend all immigration from regions compromised by terror as he said and what countries does that include, saudi arabia, turkey, pakistan, france? >> well i think what he said -- obviously that policy will be spelled out more clearly once his team gets put in place and
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leadership and the state department and the secretary of defense. clearly this is something that has already been articulated both in the house and senate and by president-elect trump which is we will pursue policies to temporarily suspend immigration from areas that harbor and train terrorists until better vetting is put together. where that is, what countries those are, what areas we're talking about, that will be articulated at a later time. >> is there a possibility of france? >> martha, look, like i said, we're not going to get into all the details of where these hot spots are at. but that policy will be more closely articulated once the team is in place. just so you understand, this is not some sort of out of left field policy. this is something that has been sitting many different times in the house and the senate that either couldn't get passed or the president wouldn't support.
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candidate trump said he wanted to bring back water boarding and worse and picked cia director. pompeo has been a proponent of that as well. will he ask his republican control congress to pass a new law to get rid of the current law which bans water boarding? >> i think we have to take a deep breath and realize what people are seeing happening in this new administration which is the best and the brightest of all americans coming together. even some rivals like ted cruz. we talked about mitt romney. the best and the brightest. mike pompeo was number one at west point. at the top of his class at harvard law school. editor of the harvard law review. highly respected. praised from all angles. these folks, these smart people along with president-elect trump will formulate that strategy. they will confer with generals in the field. and they will do everything they can to protect and secure our country here and abroad every
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>> let's move to senator jeff sessions. as we said senator sessions has been accused in the past of making racially disparaging comments. now his nomination is opposed by -- let me read the list. the naacp, the congressional black, hispanic, asian and american caucuses. the american immigration council. does all that opposition from minority groups give you any pause? >> this is something that happened 30 years ago. man's life. he's an unbelievably honest dignified man who started his career working against george wallace who then spent 15 years in the department of justice and u.s. attorney for 12, ag for 2 filing desegregation lawsuits all over alabama and voted for the civil rights act. voted for eric holder. he worked his heart out to give
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this is a man who has spent his entire life fighting for a quality freedom and opportunity. it's an honor to have senator jeff sessions accept such a post. he's an incredible man. even the people 30 years ago that voted against him said they regretted it. and that he was a great man and this is something that i think is very political, very unfair. and i would hate to be judged and i think you would and everyone out there to be judged ov thing i've said. look, he's a good man. he will be confirmed and he deserves it. >> okay. one final question on senator sessions. he's questioned the investigation of hillary clinton's e-mail server and said clinton violated the law with the clinton foundation and lieutenant general flynn led chance of lock her up but the republican national convention. is there selection and indication that trump will order an investigation of hillary clinton?
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their suggestions for nomination is an indication of donald trump's willingness to do everything he can to follow through on his campaign promises but also protect our country here and abroad. it should be a great sign for americans he's leading by bringing people together to make our country great again. >> thanks very much for joining us mr. priebus and congratulations to you. >> thank you. >> coming up, much more on donald trump's white house team as the president-elect receives more big name guests today. the powerhouse round table is standing by. plus president trump will face a flurry of foreign policy challenges. how will his new national security team handle them? i'll talk to the former director of the cia next. >> announcer: "this week" with george stephanopoulos brought to you by voya financial. voya fin. who are you?
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election. i am too more than i can ever express. but as i said last week our campaign was never about one person or even one election. it was about the country we love and about building an america that is hopeful inclusive and big-hearted. >> hillary clinton making her first public appearance since her concession speech after a loss that disappointed her supporters and is now exacerbated by her lead in the popular vote overnight climbing to more than 1 1/2 million votes. trump what once called the eleg to y'all college a disaster for democracy now fired back tweeting, if the election were based on total popular vote, i would have campaigned in new york, florida, and california and won even bigger and more easily.
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our foreign policy is a complete and total disaster. no vision, no purpose, no direction, no strategy. >> donald trump campaigned on a pledge to upend u.s. foreign policy.
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a renewed relationship with russia. a ban on muslims entering the u.s. and questioning the need for nato. >> we're going to finally have a coherent foreign policy based upon american interests. >> and now he's building a team to make that happen. his most important pick so far, national security adviser michael flynn. >> it's going really well. it's a great transition. >> a retired lieutenant general, flynn is the former head of the defense intelligence agency who helped root out terrorist networks during the wars in afghanistan and iraq. he's known for ringing early alarm bells about the growing threat of isis and for his controversial views on islam. trump also named a new cia chief, republican congressman mike pompeo of kansas. first in his class at west point, pompeo was elected in the 2010 tea party wave and serves
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a fierce critic of the obama administration especially on benghazi, the iran deal and efforts to close the prison at guantanamo. let's dive into what that means for your security and america's foreign policy joining us is the former director of the cia and head of the nsa, general michael hayden. welcome general hayden. >> good morning. >> before trump's win you called his potential presidency dangerous. joining about 50 top republican national security officials and expressing your opposition. now that he's won you say it's time to give the president-elect a chance. let's go to those national security picks. he has tapped congressman mike pompeo to be the next cia director. you were cia director. does he have enough experience for the job? >> i think so. i was actually heartened by that pick. i actually am aware that the broader intelligence community
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experience going into that job as leon pennetta did and i think leon did a wonderful job and highly regarded at the agency. people know him from the house intelligence committee and have always said he was serious, studied the issues and worth talking to. now, i get that political patina with regard to benghazi. and e-mail servers and so on. even when that was going on they had time to discuss serious issues. >> president-elect trump has been critical of the intelligence agency doubting whether russia was behind the hack. how will that go over with career intelligence people? you said they're looking forward to mike pompeo. >> that doesn't go over well. they're saying why are we doing this if you're not paying attention to it. it's not so much the president disagreed based on facts. he dismissed it. again, congressman pompeo is a
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>> one of the things -- let me go to this. congressman pompeo defended cia's detention and interrogation techniques saying these men and women are not torturers, the program being used were within the constitution. president-elect trump has gone further saying harsh interrogation tactics like water boarding should be ud again. you were there. should that be brought back? >> number one, what the congressman said is correct, this was done within the law. done by people who did it reluctantly. not out of enthusiasm and produced good intelligence for america. bringing it back is a separate question. here's where i would begin -- >> which some people would argue with you on. >> well, it's very important. let's begin with actually detaining people under the laws of armed conflict. we don't do that. outside of iraq and syria. unless we're going to put
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court. in other words, we're going to accuse them of something, we don't hold them as an enemy combatant for their intelligence values. the first step, let's start to do that and let's question them and then if the current lawfully authorized techniques are insufficient, let's have a conversation about them at that time. >> okay. let's move to retired lieutenant general mike flynn. >> right. >> praised for his intelligence gathering and techniques. is he qualified to be national security adviser? you know how important that job is. >> very important job. you're right. mike has been very, very successful. but by and large he's been successful at the tactical operational level. this is a strategic global job. so i think he'll be stretched a bit by this. mike's got great ideas. but unless you're hiring a kissenger or skocroft in that job what you want is a process guy in the job. the one who tees up issues,
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government have a voice. that's going to extend mike as well. >> we're seeing all these generals, general mattis. donald trump said he was smarter than the generals. why all these generals? >> maybe there are some generals that actually know stuff. >> let me get foreign policy questions. iran, trump hates the nuclear deal. can they tear it up? what happens? >> what we talk about the deal that's what's happening in the next ten years. the current administration is holding american policy at large towards iran hostage to the deal. we don't push back on iran in a whole bunch of other places. my first step if you're asking me for recommendations is stop doing that. push back on the iranians in iraq and syria and push back on them in the gulf. then if the iranians want to walk away from the deal, fine. the second thing, martha, is not
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it's the broader behavior and it's what happens after ten years. because all those provisions start to bleed off. i think that's the conversation we need to have. >> quickly, if you can, i hate to do this so quickly, isis, can they really do anything different? we seem to be making progress? >> we are. i think we have been late in light underresourced, overregulated and in a pretty good place now. we're going to squeeze them. they're going to end existence as the islamic state. now we got to deal with the movement. >> what comes next always the big question. thanks so much for joining us general hayden. as trump's agenda takes shape, how will the democrats respond standing firmly against him or finding common ground? i put that question to the new leader of the opposition senator chuck schumer and our powerhouse round table next. >> announcer: "this week" with george stephanopoulos is brought to you by mucinex. george stephanopoulos is brought to you by mucinex. e over. easy booger man. take mucinex dm.
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scrap it. >> scrap it? >> scrapped. scrapped. >> maybe we'll just talk about that later. >> "saturday night live" poking some fun at donald trump and provoking a new tweet from trump this morning, i watched parts of "saturday night live" last night, it is a totally one-sided biased show, nothing funny at all. equal time for us. trump may not like it but they raise a valid question. will he follow through on those campaign promises or will he chart an indep work with congressional democrats? i put that question to the senate minority leader democrat chuck schumer when we sat down this week. we started our conversation about the democrats huge loss on election night. >> once you lose an election like that, you look it straight in the eye, you don't flinch, you don't blink and you try to examine what you did wrong. we did not have a strong bold economic message. we sort of nibbled around the
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that's what we need. and that's what i aim to do as leader. we're going to have a very, very strong and bold economic platform and message. >> what's the message? >> we shouldn't just do a little thing about college. we should make college affordable for everybody and make sure that everyone gets out of college debt-free. we shouldn't just say we'll change the trade laws a little bit. we need dramatic change in t we should close all of these loopholes. carried interest and other things. many of these issues donald trump supported in the campaign. we challenge him to work with us on those issues and not work -- go against them and break his promise to the blue collar people because the republican leadership or the republican establishment doesn't like them. >> the republicans now have both chambers of congress, the presidency, the majority of state houses and the majority of
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isn't that a mandate? >> look, as you know, democrats got a majority of the popular vote, hillary did. it's not a mandate. when he's opposed to our values we're going to go after him tooth and nail. for instance, we're not going to let him repeal dodd/frank or the rules we put in place to limit wall street. they're going to regret the day they try to repeal the aca. so when we oppose trump on values or of his presidency taking a dark divisive turn, we're going to do it tooth and nail. >> trump rode this populist wave with anger against elites and big banks and i know you take pride in your middle class neighborhood but some look at you as representing wall street. you've raised a lot of money from wall street over the years. are you really the right leader at this time? >> i believe i am. the day after harry reid said he
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and bernie sanders supported me and the conservative members of our caucus and i think they believe i am going to focus like a laser on the middle class and those trying to get there. >> i want to know what your relationship is with mr. trump? i'm sure you know him. >> i do. >> you're both new yorkers. he gave more than $8,000 to your campaign. >> yes. look, i know him. we were at meetings together but i don't know him very well. i know more about him from his presidential campaign which i found disappointing in a whole my hope is with donald trump is what president obama said, that the presidency is a sobering, i think those were president obama's words, experience and he will rise to the occasion. but if he doesn't, you know, he's going to find the democrats holding his feet to the fire. >> schumer says they'll hold his feet to the fire but donald trump is already reaching out to him tweeting just this morning i have always had a good
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he is far smarter than harry reid and has the ability to get things done. good news. let's take all this and the rest of the week's news to our powerhouse round table. abc news, political analyst matthew dowd, abc news contributor and senior espn writer elsie granderson. bloomberg political reporter jennifer jacobs and the host of npr's morning edition steve inskepe. welcome to you all. i want to ask you all what do you about a trump administration? matthew? >> they say to me that he is not going to exercise leadership humbly in this. he's going to stick to what he campaigned on. it looks like every single one of his appointments weren't reaching across a diverse america. that he might not have gotten voted for him. as chuck schumer said a plurality voted for clinton. he doesn't seem to care about that. i think we're going to have to judge donald trump on his
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most americans are open to his leadership. not surprising he put these people in place. they basically follow where he is. we're going to have to judge on the actions post january 20th. >> mitt romney. what does that tell you and what does it tell you about mitt romney? why would he go there if he doesn't get a cabinet? >> i thought chris christie won the award for the big butt kisser. how do you find someone like evan macmullan and then a week later you're kissing the ring which is what it looked like. it says more about romney and who he isn't more so than who donald trump is. >> why do you think he would do it? >> power. why does anyone seek an office like that? >> i think romney cares about the country and presidency. so i wasn't surprised he went. i would be shocked if he took a position in the trump administration. >> steve, top editor who worked
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strategist, told you this week his former colleague has no prejudices. will bannon's association with the so called -- >> it's there and real and part of the conversation. there was a convention of people white sue premisists, whatever you want to label them in washington this weekend. that is part of the conversation. you're correct that people who bannon say he doesn't seem to be an overt racist but in interviews has talked about embracing the dark side of how there is power in the dark side of the argument and this is a guy who wants to break a lot of china. >> you're talking about the hollywood reporter interview what was fascinating in saying darth vader, cheney. satan. >> these are the comparisons. >> who is steve bannon. >> i don't know the man. i don't think a lot of people
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known his persona and this gets back to something matthew pointed out. i'm not sure there was attention paid to donald trump during the campaign, but there was really attention paid to what he would do when he would govern. when i interviewed across the country a lot of voters including people who voted for trump there were people who would look at different statements that he made and say i don't know if i support that but i don't think he's going to do it. i don't think he means that. we're finding out he did mean what he said. >> there's been kushner, donald trump's son-in-law. very influential with his father-in-law. do you see him joining the administration and what kind of difference does that make? does donald trump really need him there? >> i think it's inevitable. i think he leans on his son-in-law so much that it would be impossible for him to not be advising him and asking him for his opinions. but with steve bannon, he is donald trump's chief idea guy. that's the guy to watch.
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he's a fascinating guy. he was enlisted as a navy sailor. he graduated from harvard law of business. he made millions at goldman sachs in investment banking. he drinks at cafe americano with five shots of espresso in it. up until midnight. >> not that there's anything wrong with that much caffeine. i'll just mention that. >> the man who gets up at 2:00 every morning. >> i know his allies think the left is underestimating him and spending time casting him as this evil character. as someone who is rast. who knows whether he is or not. but he's plotting behind the scenes to bring jobs. he's all about bringing capital to the american cities and this big infrastructure plan. i think he appreciates that the left underestimates him. >> i want to ask you, he's looking at a lot of people who have been in uniform all these generals.
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bannon has experience in the military. pompeo was at west point. why all the people in the military? >> well, one, i think he likes to surround himself with people that enhances his stature. it goes against what he said during the primaries which was the generals don't know anything. i know so much better. by the way, the general is in the room now. i want to touch on something really pointed in this is you said it earlier in the show. i think this is not the settling of a battl the enhancing of a battle that's going to exist in america regardless who donald trump -- you saw on election day the country have a split decision where they wanted to go. whether a transformative country or reformative country. donald trump representing going backwards. all his appointments represented a previous time. we had an election day of one candidate get the popular vote. one candidate get the electoral college. we had candidates on election day who weren't able to appeal to either side.
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one was a small town candidate. both political parties unpopular. both candidates disliked on election day and now we're set for this immense battle of where we are that i don't think is going to be settled in the next two or four years. we have a generational battle of what country we are. >> on that note, 100 days, what do you think he gets done? there's a fascinating piece in the washington post talking about trump will be the first truly independent president. what does that mean and what does that mean for him the first 100 days? >> i mean it's funny to characterize him as a conservative. we all know he's been in the public eye for more than 30 years. he's not a true conservative or democrat. he will be independent and making things up as he goes along and leaning on people to make him fill in the blanks. the first 100 days he's definitely going to attack the affordable care act. that's what congress wants to do. and he's probably going to go at it.
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doesn't disenfranchise so many americans? there are like 30 million americans on the affordable care act and there are other laws that conservatives do like such as you can keep your kid on until they're 25. pre-existing conditions. a lot of things about the affordable care act he's got to handle while he takes care of that and the other thing is immigration. i don't know if the wall is going to go up. maybe some design plans. >> jennifer, i want you to put your old hat on at the des moines register. you were there 12 years. look at what the country is talking about, what donald trump is talking about right now. view it from those rural areas or from the heartland. do they look at the press and see we're whining about him not having a press poll. they look at these appointments how? >> they're going to want trump to stick with his campaign promises and be the revolutionary who smashes washington and replaces it with something. they're looking for him to build the wall. i know the transition team does
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building wall using fees and not involving the mexican government. whether trump does something with it who knows but it's there. they want him to be a law and order candidate and build a strong military. the iowa republicans will be watching for him to follow through. >> the question becomes do their lives economically change? does a 55-year-old person in iowa, a guy or gal, does their life economically change? that's a question whether donald >> that's something they'll be tracking no matter where they are in the country. steve i want comments about the "hamilton" coding. what did you make of that? >> let me back away from the firestorm that was igniting when mike pence goes to "hamilton." he's booed a bit and gets the statement from the cast and trump tweets about it. everybody is taking advantage of that in different ways.
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my home state governor went to "hamilton." saw the well reviewed program based on american history and it's fine that they let him know what they thought. and fine they let him know what their concerns are and it is a reminder of what matthew pointed out and what schumer pointed out. trump won the election but lost the popular vote. there's more than a million and a half more people who voted for clinton than for trump and the challenge for this administration is whether they and get the confidence of the entire country or battle with half the country. >> i'm putting up my pen and it's very appropriate because this is what our friend gwen ifill used to do when she was out of time. we'll be right back to our friend and colleague. gwen ifill. friend and colleague.
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listening to me you think i become cynical after all the years i spent in washington but i am not. skeptical perhaps. that's an occupational hazard. cynics think they know the answers and then they stop listening. skeptics always have more questions to ask. but we are willing to be persuaded to the honesty of an alternate point of view even though we don't share it. is it possible to be optimistic september -- skeptical and ambitious and willing to change the world as well?
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>> that's our friend from pbc gwen ifill who we lost this week to cancer at age 61. she was the moderator of washington week, the anchor of pbs news hour and a favorite here at our round table. so to honor her career, we wanted to pay tribute today with some thoughts from each of you. steve. >> here's something i think most people did not realize. gwen moderated a presidential debate early this year in february. and almost nobody except the people closest to her knew she was suffering with a disease that would kill her and she did that debate anyway and nobody watching on television knew the difference. she was tough. she had integrity and i'll miss her. >> i saw her last about a month and a half ago. she asked me to be on her show the day the access hollywood tapes came out and she had a lot to say. in the green room she was vibrant. what was really on her mind that day, she had a friend visiting from
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african-american history museum. she was so excited about that. she had been invited to an event with michelle obama at the white house and to be there with the first black first lady was something also. >> and the first lady was at her memorial service yesterday. matthew. >> and i've been on the same side of her with the media and opposite sides with her. she was an unbelievable journalist. lots of integrity. i recall they call it gandhi. gwen ifill, she is a greatou me. i just have to share this story. i ran into her during the rnc. she's there. not many minorities. eating a bowl of chicken wings. i go girl what are you doing eating all these chicken wings around these white people. we lad a good laugh and she had i couldn't help it. they're so good. she reminded me to always bring your true authentic self no matter what the environment is. >> and that smile. my own final thought on gwen. she had a moral clarity and
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