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>> so go out and give somebody a good morning to our viewers in the west. it's wednesday, june 20, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. gayle king is off today. jerry sandusky's wife stands by her man. now the former coach could take his turn on the witness stand today. i'm erica hill. he is a rising star of the republican party. now marco rubio is a center of attention in the mitt romney veep talk. alex baldwin defending himself in accusations that he punched a photographer and talks about his long-standing feud with the paparazzi. but first, a look at today's eye opener, your world in 90 seconds.
>> i'm sorry. what? >> of course. like a soap. you have to wait and see. >> jerry sandusky expected to take the stand. in his own defense. >> sandusky's wife, dottie, took the stand and said she didn't witness any sexual abuse. >> a man soaping up a little boy late at night alone in a shower. is that doesn't seem unusual? >> no. he was like a father figure to a lot of these i cans and he helped them take a shower. >> marco rubio is being thoroughly vetted as part of our process. >> mitt romney says the media is wrong. >> denied reports that rubio was not on the short list of vp candidates. >> i get a kick out of some of the speculation that goes on. and i'm not going to comment on the process of course. >> hosni mubarak is on life support. >> while massive protests erupt in cairo over who will succeed him. >> you had a second question.
what was it? >> most boring press conference i've ever seen. >> a florida woman trying to clear her name after complaining about a tsa patdown. >> surveillance video shows the passenger doing the patting down. >> on the hunt for the reese's cup bandit. he is not taking money. he is stealing chocolate. >> if you had to steal a candy bar, what kind would it be? >> almond joy. >> all that -- >> snarl for the camera. did alex baldwin assault a daily news photographer? >> if i'm slugging a photographer out in front of the courthouse, i'm dumb, but i'm not that dumb. >> and all that mattered -- >> i don't want to answer that question. that's a clown question. >> on "cbs his morning." >> ann romney's horse now advances to this summer's olympic games. p>> jimmy, crank up the jockey jam. ♪ welcome to "cbs this
morning." we may hear from jerry sandusky shortly testifying in his open defense at his child sex abuse trial. >> the judge says defense lawyers could rest their case as soon as today. the star witness tuesday was sandusky's wife, dottie. his wife of 45 years. army keteyian is at the courthouse in bellefonte, pennsylvania. good morning. >> good morning, ann, to our viewers in the west. jerry sandusky is expected to testify in his own defense, adding a huge dose of drama to a trial yesterday his attorney called a soap opera. as the trial speeds toward a dramatic conclusion, perhaps as early as this weekend, the defense played some of its biggest cards, calling a parade of strong character witnesses, questioning the tactics of key police investigators and putting sandusky's wife on the stand. dressed in a lime green outfit and speaking in a soft, sometimes nervous voice, dorothy "dottie" sandusky testified she
saw no sign of sexual abuse of young boys by her husband of 45 years. time and time again, defense attorney joe amendola repeated the same question. did you ever see any inappropriate conduct? each and every time, dottie sandusky simply answered, no. did you ever hear a young man yell for help, asked amendola, referring to one alleged victim's story of graphic abuse in the basement of the sandusky home. again, she answered no. during cross-examination, lead prosecutor joseph mcget began asked, what reason would any of those people lie about anything? taking a long pause, dottie sandusky said, i don't know what it would be. earlier, two state troopers told defense attorneys they did not lead potential accusers by telling them what other alleged victims had said. but amendola produced a transcript and then a tape of the interview where one of the troopers tells alleged victim number four, we know from other young adults that there's a
well-defined progression of how he operates, leading to oral sex. by no means are alone in this. the defense will likely call its final witness today. the jury will likely get this case tomorrow. it will be sequestered until it reaches a decision. charlie, erica? >> armen, thanks. jack ford, legal analyst, is joining us now. good morning. how effective was ms. sandusky! i think she was helpful for the defense. there's an ebb and flow. i think she did two things. one, she rebutted some of the allegations by some of the accusers here. she said, you know, the basement wasn't soundproof. there weren't people down there with him for hours at all. she never heard anyone screaming at all. those are important facts. but she also i think tended -- the defense hopes -- to humanize him. the prosecution has been te demonizing him. part of what they do. and i think that the defense hopes that at least one juror --
remember, the defense doesn't have to prove anything. they just have to raise the question in the mind of at least one juror. but i think they are hoping that jurors might say, 45 years. she seems like a lovely woman. she said nothing happened here. i don't know. that's what they are hoping they might get from a juror. >> we also heard yesterday from the psychologist talking about this histrionic personality disorder. how effective was that testimony? >> well, what you have to realize is this is not an insanity defense. insanity requires you to say yes, i did, but here's why. i was criminally insane. this is an attempt to try and explain away some of the awkward situations, specifically what were described as creepy love letters that the accusers said he sent to them. i think if they can get the jurors to look at it a different way, come off of the child pervert view of him, and maybe he is odd and awkward and maybe something else is going on here, but at least it gives the defense an opportunity to argue something other than violent
sexual pervert >> so should she take the stand now? >> boy, i have gone back and forth on it. i always thought he kind of had to. and i still think that. i believe that -- i know it's a hard decision. there's some disagreement in the defense camp as a matter of fact. i wouldn't be surprised to see him take the stand here, although after having heard his wife's testimony and the psychologist testimony, they might take a look at this and say, you know, we got all the best we could get in here without the downside of him being on the stand. but it sounds to me as if he's going to. >> thank you, jack. president obama is back in washington this morning after the g20 economic summit, which was dominated by the european debt crisis. before leaving, mr. obama said he is confident european leaders will find a solution. >> i don't want to sound pollyannaish here. resolving the issues in europe is difficult. changing market psychology is very difficult.
but the tools are available. the sense of urgency among the leaders is clear. and so what we have to do is combine that sense of urgency with the tools that are available and bridge them in a timely fashion that can provide markets confidence. >> meanwhile, mitt romney's search for a running mate is heating up. on wednesday, the republican challenger denied reports that one prominent name, florida senator marco rubio, is not on his list. as dan crawford reports, it is an issue that romney would rather not talk about. jan, good morning. >> good morning. and good morning to viewers across the west. a vice presidential pick is the first pick decision that voters will see from the presidential nominee. so in a close race, that can make a difference. and because it can be so important, as you know, charlie, the contenders are always kept secret. presidential campaigns just
don't talk about who's on their short list until they feel they have to. and that's where mitt romney found himself yesterday. throughout tuesday, the story picked up steam. florida senator marco rubio reportedly was not being vetted as romney's running mate. a favorite of conservatives and a fundraising force, rubio deflected questions. >> i'm not commenting on the vice presidential process. i just don't talk about the process at all. >> finally, romney had enough. late tuesday, he broke his silence to confirm that rubio was in fact on his short list. >> the story was entirely false. marco rubio is being thoroughly vetted as part of our process. >> romney also had this caution for reporters. those who talk don't know, and those who know don't talk. >> there are only two people in this country who know who are being vetted and who are not. and that's beth myers and myself. >> myers is romney's former
chief of staff and is running the vp selection process. >> i know beth well. she doesn't talk to anybody. >> reporter: but there are clues. on a five-day bus tour, romney campaigned with several possible contenders. in new hampshire, he scooped ice cream with senator kelly iat and former governor tim pawlenty. in ohio, the romneys served pancakes to hundreds with senator rob portman and his wife pouring the syrup. and at a textile mill in wisconsin, he got a warm welcome from congressman paul ryan. then there are other prospects. south dakota senator john thune and alabama's bobby jindal. now sources in the romney campaign tell me that as a first term senator, rubio is a long shot. and that if you're betting, you should probably put your money on portman or pawlenty. charlie and erica? >> jan, thank you. let's bring in john dickerson.
good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> why was it necessary in this case for governor romney to say he is being vetted? because he's not going to simply go through this process with every potential vice presidential pick. >> that's right. and marco rubio, though, is kind of a special days. marco rubio, whether he is picked or not, is politically beneficial for governor romney for a number of reasons. he is quite popular in the republican party. he can help him raise money. and particularly, he is popular in florida. and that's obviously a key battleground state. and also hispanic voters with whom governor romney has a big problem, marco rubio is not going to help him a great deal with hispanic voters but he helps him some. and particularly in light the president's recent decision on young children of illegal immigrants. you want marco rubio to always be in the conversation associated with mitt romney, and so coming out and saying he's being vetted, kind of cleans that up, puts them close together even though he may never be the ultimate pick.
>> is there any reason specifically that he would not pick marco rubio? >> well, we don't know what's in mitt romney's head. but if we look at what he said about what he would want in his vice presidential pick, he said he wants somebody who would be ready to take over the office. and one of the criteria that governor romney has campaigned on both in the last presidential race and this one is that you need executive experience. not just experience, but executive experience. making decisions. and marco rubio has experience. he has more experience than barack obama had. but he has no executive experience. and if you had to pinpoint one thing, that would be the hurdle for marco rubio. >> how important at the end of the day is the person that mitt romney picks in terms of helping romney win the race? >> well, the political scientists say that in the end, actually, it's not that much of a help. and i think that's probably right. you can cause yourself some excitement sometimes with your presidential pick. but that also can kind of run out after a while. so i think that in the end, it's
the person at the top of the ticket. you want a number two who sort of underlines your themes if you're the presidential candidate. but there's not a whole lot that a vice presidential pick can give you. most political scientists and those who watch these races say that lyndon johnson was the last vice presidential pick who really helped a candidate. >> there's one quote this morning that says that tim pawlenty is doing well because he is comfortable with governor romney and he is low maintenance. >> he is low maintenance. good on the stump. good personal story. up from sort of pulled himself up by his boot straps, which helps romney or could help romney with those blue collar voters. republicans do well with. but romney doesn't have any great connection. so pawlenty could be helpful in those areas. >> john, thank you so much. we'll speak with senator rubio in our next half-hour egypt's former president hosni mubarak is clinging to life in a cairo hospital this
morning. the latest reports say he in is a coma. egypt is in a national struggle with growing political unrest. >> reporter: former egyptian president hosni mubarak is said to be in a coma but no longer on a life support system. reports from the military hospital where he was taken last night from prison says that his heart and other functions are normal, but he is in a coma. there have been conflicting reports about the state of mubarak's health. some even said he was on a life support system because he had a heart attack, stroke, or fluid on the lungs and was on the point of dying. but he would appear to be still alive. when news of his deteriorating health was given to protesters in tahrir square last night, there was a cheer and then they basically moved to other matters. as far as they are concerned, mubarak is dead and has been for some time because he is no longer part of the political process. the emphasis here now is on confronting the military, which is essentially seized control of the government by dissolving
parliament, taking the right to write the new constitution and imposing martial law. there is also conflict over who will be the new president. both contenders now saying they won more than 50% of the vote. official results are due tomorrow, but may be delayed due to mubarak's deteriorating health. this morning, attorney general eric holder is asking the president to let him claim executive privilege rather than hand over certain documents in the fast and furious gun running operation. the house oversight and government reform committee is due to vote today on finding holder in contempt of congress. committee chairman darrell issa says a last-minute meeting on tuesday ended up going nowhere. >> ultimately, the attorney general is the custodian of the documents we wish to receive. and that's why the contempt cites him. we would hope that the president would ask his attorney general to be more cooperative. >> nancy cortis is on capitol hill this morning.
nancy, what is happening here? >> reporter: well, what's happening is the republicans say that holder is not giving them the documents they need to investigate whether the department of justice covered up its involvement in fast and furious or tried to silence whistle blowers after a u.s. border agent brian terry was killed in arizona and two guns that were lost as part of the program were found at the scene. attorney general holder says there's no evidence of a cover-up. that he's already provided 7600 pages worth of documents. that this is essentially a republican fishing expedition. so he had an ultimatum of his own for issa. i'll give you more documents if you agree to drop the subpoenas against me. >> i have to say, given the extraordinary nature of the offer that we made and given the extraordinary way in which we have shared materials to date, that i think we are actually involved more in political gamesmanship as opposed to trying to get the information they say they want. >> reporter: so unless someone
blinks this morning, this contempt vote is going to go ahead in the committee. if it passes, then it would go to the house floor. if it passes in the house, it would come to the senate. but the senate, charlie and erica, is controlled by democrats, so it's likely that the move would die there. >> nancy cortis, thank you so much. there are dueling accusations this morning after alec baldwin was involved in an angry public incident. he is accused of punching a new york daily news photographer after a confrontation in lower manhattan. a few hours later, i spoke with alec baldwin about it. he says he did not hit anyone. >> oh, the guy -- there was this person in front of me he was blocking him. and the guy lunged and almost hit me in the teeth with the camera. i pushed the guy away. but of course they all make it out -- my favorite line was john malkovich's, they all scream like they are political prisoner, he said. >> the paparazzi? >> yeah. he said they all scream like political prisoners, you know. the other thing about it is i don't want to take our valuable time with this.
but in this business, in the modern era, all of us, we make appointments with the press. this is an appointment with the press. we make ourselves available as an obligation per or contract to our employers to represent the product and help to sell the product. and then when i walk out the door, that's over. when the guy jumps out of the bushes with the camera and tries to take a picture of my kid, they want to say to you, well, here is another appointment you have with the press. >> we'll hear more from alec baldwin in the next half hour. he and penelope cruz will discuss the downside of being famous. state and local governments are taking in more tax dollars but spending les. "usa today" reports state and local spending is at the lowest point since the 1980s. the biggest savings comes from cutting state aid to schools and cities. britain's "telegraph" reports wikileaks founder julian assange is hiding in ecuador's embassy in london. he is asking for political asylum, hoping ec-ecuador will
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welcome back to cbs "this morning." mitt romney says florida senator marco rubio is being vetted as a potential running mate in the presidential election. romney says reports that rubio is out of the running are "entirely false." >> senator rubio is now with us from washington. he's just published a memoir called "an american son." senator rubio, good morning. >> good morning, guys. thanks for having me. >> when you heard these reports that you were not being vetted, were you already being vetted? >> i've made a decision a long time ago not to discuss the process. that's not going to change today.
i respect the process that governor romney's going through. i'm pretty confident he's going to make an excellent choice. i think those of us involved in politics and supportive of him should give him the space to do that that. that's the decision i made a while back to just not comment on the process. but i knew you'd ask. >> indeed. so the question is what happens when you're vetted? you get a questionnaire? what else do they do?& >> i'm not going to discuss the process. i have a new book out. don't even know if you've heard about it though. >> allow me to talk about the book, then come back to some political questions. what do we learn from this memoir, "an american son," about you that might be instructive to understanding you and your political life? and the things that made you who you are. >> the book is largely the story of my family and how many of the conclusions i reached and the opportunity i had are the direct result of experiences they made and had so long ago. obviously i think there are a
lot of other people out there that have similar stories. one of the things i hope is that by telling my story i can pay tribute to america because i realize i've had opportunities that my parents should have had but didn't because they didn't have the blessing that i had to be born and raised here in this country. there are also some things that i think will be applicable for people of my generation in terms of the life/work balance. i talk openly in the book how i worry about sometimes i don't get that right. i share mistakes that i've made, decisions i made a while back while i started out in politics that i wish i had done differently because i would have avoided a lot of headaches for myself. i hope that's something people will look at as well. finally, i hope people out there thinking about an endeavor, whether politics or business and being told they can't win, would read the story of an example of someone who was told that once, came to believe it for a while, got discouraged -- and now have the honor to serve in the senate. >> "american son" suggests it is
about immigration. the president has proposed some new ruse about what he thinks immigration reform ought to be. do you approve and support what the president has said? >> well, i view that issue the way i outlined in the book -- that is that immigration is a difficult issue. both sides oversimplify it sometimes. on one hand it is torn to recognize these are human being whose stories we should have compassion for especially young people who came here through no fault of their own. by the same token we have a broken immigration system and a very serious illegal immigration problem. any solution to that problem -- whether the kids who have been here or people who have overstayed visa -- that's a balanced approach. i know it is going to be welcome news for these kids desperate for a solution, i think by ignore rg the constitution and the congress, it is going to make it harder for us to come up with the kind of balanced solution i and others were working on. >> mitt romney has refused to
say whether or not he'd reverse the policy of the president. do you know why he's not answering this question directly? >> i have not had a conversation with him since the president's decision came out. from what i read in his public comments, they echo things i have said which is these kids and their circumstances -- these are young people who came when they're 5 years old, lived here their whole life, valedictorians of their school? it doesn't seem right to deport them. there needs to be a long-term solution. we're going to continue to work on this. i think it is going to make it harder to do it before the election because we've lost some of the sense of urgency. i hope i'm wrong but let's see. >> but is it reasonable to say that governor romney's positions on immigration as expressed in the campaign are at odds with your own deep feelings about
immigration in this country? >> no, i don't think that's true either. what i have said sim's a big supporter of a legal immigration system. we need to remind everybody that a million people a year immigrate to the u.s. legally. no other country in the worls comes close to that. there are 50 million people or so waiting to come into this country. we get hundreds of people a year in our offices who are asking for help because their relatives have been waiting in line doing it the right way. what do we tell them? come illegally? it is cheaper and quicker? on the other hand, if you meet some of these folks, your heart breaks because they're doing what most of us would be doing if we were in the same situation. that has to be balanced in the way that takes into account the human element of the story but also we are a pro-legal immigration party, we are a pro-legal immigration nation. i think that's what mitt romney has consistency said since the primaries have really gotten going. >> sounds like you agree with what the president is doing, you'd just like to see the congress do it.
>> i think there's no secret that we were working on a plan to help accommodate these kids. it was much more comprehensive much more detail in terms of some of the unintended consequences of this policy. what i fear is that by politicizing this issue, by linking this issue to election year politics, it is now going to get harder to do the kind of balanced, reasonable approach that these kids deserve. i actually discussed that in the book and i wrote it well before this decision was made. >> there is a lot of talk about what can and what cannot get done in washington these days. former governor jeb bush who i know you're close with spoke with charlie with the need for a grand bargain or compromise. seems we always hear both sides pointing the finger. wouldn't this be a good opportunity to step up and be perhaps the person or party who starts to do away with the obstructionism even if it may seem like that's contrary? >> i think there's always room for compromise on ideas.
what's much harder to compromise on are principles. today we have two parties so far apart on principles, what the role of government is in america and the world, it is difficult to have a compromise. that has to be decided in an election. in many ways that's what this election is about. i do talk about in my book a lack of urgency. especially at the end of the book if you read it, you'll see it talks a lot about the sense that there is no urgency in washington. irrespective of where you fall on these issues, there's no sense of urgency, for example, in the senate about tax reform, regulatory reform, long-term debt, the lack of an energy policy. wish there was more urgency, irrespective of how you feel about these issues so we can have the debate people deserve. >> why don't people in washington feel that urgency? can you help that in any way if you're there and you talk about it? >> sure. that's why i do shows like thi , hoping to prod people, it is having the willingness to deal with the issue.
in my speeches and private conversations i hear back, let's get through election cycle. then things will be easier to get done. i hear that on issue after issue. the probably is there's always the next election psyccycle. >> senator rubio, the republican senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell, was on this program and he said he's in favor of a grand bargain and that he also thinks it has to do with enti e entitlement cuts as well as revenue. are you in favor of the same thing your leader is in favor of in the senate? >> i'm certainly in favor of additional revenue to the government. that's not the debate. debate is how do you get the revenue to government. i think you get it through growth. many on the left bleesh yelievet it through higher tax rates. i think if our economy grows, that generates more revenue. i believe we need more tax tears,
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a former tsa agent who was flying from ft. meyers, florida a month ago was a patdown she found intrusive. she demonstrated to her former supervisor how she was touched. now the former agent is facing misdemeanor battery charges for the hands-on display. meat on drugs is the provocative title of the new consumer report's campaign focusing on antibiotics in the food supply. >> the meat and poultry business is america's number one user of antibiotics. the new report argues that public health is being put at risk. "consumer reports'" director of consumer safety is here. so tell me about antibiotics. how does it get in the food
supply? >> well, we use actually 80% of the antibiotics we use per year in this country on animal reproduction. the misuse of antibiotics is leading to this public crisis that we have now which is bacteria are becoming more resistant to antibiotics making it harder to treat diseases in people. you should use antibiotics for treating diseases but do you need to feed it to healthy animals every day to promote growth and prevent disease in we don't think so. >> so therefore, when farmers use it, you would do what? >> when farmers use it, they use it to promote growth. they use it to keep healthy animals healthy, especially in industrial scale confined animal feed operations. but it is really sort of an artificial system. what we don't see going on is the bacteria on the farm becoming more and more resistant. when that goes downstream and as consumers are exposed to that later on, they can get a disease
that's resistant to being treated by antibiotics and it can become harder and harder to theet troes diseases in people. >> so it is not necessarily the issue with the antibiotics in the meat that we're eating but more the broader effect. >> that's right. primary issue is not the antibiotic on the meat. we have withdrawal periods. there should be minimal residues. may be somewhat of a problem but the main problem is what's happening on the farm to the bacteria and later on down the stream. >> so you did this study. you sent your secret shoppers out to hundreds of different stores to look at different meats. if you're concerned about this, can you buy antibiotic-free meat? >> yeah. we actually visited 136 different stores in 23 states and we looked at over 1,000 products in those stores that were marketed as being raised without antibiotics. so it is available in many stores. it's not available in some stores. but what our consumer poll showed is that 86% of consumers want to be able to purchase meat
produced without antibiotics. >> they want it to be available. is it much more expensive though? >> it is. what's very interesting is we found meat that was comparable in cost to conventional. at times it is a little bit more expensive. but there's no question that consumers are willing to pay a little bit more per pound for pork. it is estimated to be about 5 cents more per pound to produce without antibiotics. for chicken, less than 1 cent a pound to produce without antibiotics. is something we can afford do and it is already being done. we just want to see it happen all the way. from good have you here. thank you. just what does the future of television look like? we'll ask jason kyler about that just ahead. sometimes, i feel like it's me against my hair. [ female announcer ] weak, damaged hair needs new aveeno nourish+ strengthen. active naturals wheat formulas restore strength for up to 90% less breakage in three washes.
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it's 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm charlie rose. gayle king has the day off today. >> i'm erica hill. we reported earlier how the "new york daily news" claims alec baldwin punched one of its reporters. according to the paper, baldwin became enraged after the couple picked up a marriage license. baldwin says the photographer was the aggressor and that he was simply defending himself. >> alec baldwin wrote on twitter, a photographer almost hit me in the face with his camera this morning with the hashtag all paparazzi should be water boarded. i spoke with alec baldwin and
penelope cruise. it's "from rome with love." here's part of that conversation with alec baldwin and penelope cruise. >> when you have an incident you get upset, somebody is invading your privacy, who you are. >> they almost hit me with a camera. the guy, there was a person in front of me, he was blocking him. the guy lunged. he almost hit me in the teeth with the lens of the camera. so i just pushed the guy away but they all make it like -- my favorite line was john mall could he vich. he said they all screamed like they're political prisoners. >> paparazzi? >> yeah. he said they all scream like they're political prisoners. the other thing about it, i don't want to take our valuable time with this, but in this business in the modern era, all of us, we make appointments with the press. this is an appointment with the press. we make ourselves available as an obligation per our contract to our employers to represent the products and help to sell the product. when i walk out the door, that's over. when the guy jumps out of the bushes with a camera and tries to take a picture of my kid,
they want to say to you, here's another appointment you have with the press. >> don't get me started on this. >> she and her husband are huge victims of this at home, correct? >> i think it's good to talk about this. >> i do too. >> i think it's good to talk about this. this movie talks about this subject, fame. and the other day woody was saying a lot of interesting things about it. they asked him and he was saying, okay, if you have to choose, some of the advantages of being famous are great. i get great tickets at basketball, great seats at a restaurants. woody has been on both sides of it. he knows what it is. he knows how to deal with the difficulties of it, but somebody like me, i agree with him, that the advantages are very unfair. the disadvantages are also extremely unfair. i don't care if somebody takes my picture, but all i'm saying is it has to be a mutual agreement. it isn't. okay.
i can't deal with that, when they are out there. they take my picture. but when it's about children, when there is no protecting the privacy of children, it drives me crazy. and like many countries in europe, there is nothing you can do. you can't complain about it, but there has to be a law to protect the children so that those children can go to school and can be one more in the class. they don't have to be the daughter of the son of so and so. it really changes the dynamic. don't you think? >> yeah, i think so. but i think to finish that, that is, you know, i love doing this kind of stuff under the right circumstances. this is a joy to be in a group of people. it's different. you go and do letterman, we all have our favorites. this thing with the public, it's tough. the press and this instant social network twitter age we live in, people think, you know, that i'm out there just decking photographers willy nilly, that
nothing could be further from the truth. i'm in front of a courthouse, the place is crawling with cops. >> getting your marriage license. >> if i'm shrugging a photographer out in front of the courthouse, i'm dumb, but i'm not that dumb. there must have been ten cops right there on the block. but they do -- this is a guy who baited me before. he camped out in front of my house, done this before. i was stalked recently by a woman. it does -- you ignore it. >> i'll tell you a story, i'll end with this. you ignore this. many, many years ago i was friends with a guy, an actor, he was dating in its infancy with rebecca shaver. he dated rebecca schaeffer who got shot in the doorway of her apartment. we ignore this and minimize the invasions until one day it's not advisable. so sometimes i do draw the line myself, you know. i mean, i say to somebody, put that camera down or, you know, we're going to have -- >> do you think more that they know it may make you angry the
more likely they want to do it? >> they try to bait you. that's the sean penn syndrome. i didn't hit him with my fist. that's obvioabsolutely untrue. i'm forced to make my own determination about this. the legitimate press, i respect them. i can't wait to do these kinds of things. i want to help sell the movie. >> exactly. >> i hope you come here because you like the show not because -- >> no, in the world because we have a job to do, we like to do this. illegitimate people, these people are, you know, deported to some island. >> was it that you tweeted about this? >> i don't remember. >> oh. >> i tweeted a lot of things. >> just one last moment about this. it's one thing about you. it's also about your kid too, protecting him. >> very easy to hear somebody complain about this, you know,
and the way the world is right now, and to hear some actor or singer complain, like what are you complaining about? i understand that. but i'm not -- i never complain about it for myself, but i've seen it, you know, with many children of friends that do the same job. when it's about children, this is not our game. this is a serious thing. i mean, that law exists in so many other places. there's into reason for that. but not here. >> and you think you need more protection here? >> it's -- it's -- it's obvious. it's not something for us. it's basic needs that a human being needs. >> if they want a picture of you, for example, i live here. she lives in europe. we're here and they might follow you around. what's unusual is tomorrow we have a red carpet for woody's movie. they can take all the pictures of her they want to or whoever tomorrow. we're there. >> you'll talk to them, q and a on the record.
>> we're there by appointment. they'll follow you around and harass you. >> we do these ten days in a row. we do press for every single country. we are very happy to do it because we want to support the movie. of course i love your show but this is part of our job. there are many other shows. maybe i don't love them. i do it because we have to sell the movie. this is part of our job. you have to have a few hours in the day that are just for you and your family. >> another aspect of that is with this social media and twitter which is instantaneous, you have people if you're outspoken politically, let's just say, and you're -- >> let's say forsake of argument you don't mind expressing it. >> you're very vocal about your political advocacy, they get on the internet and within 30 minutes the misrepresentation of the story is out there by your political opponents. you go on twitter, it's fox nation says baldwin punches photographer. not true. and that's the thing that i find
the most difficult because in the world we live in where our reputations are a component of what we do, i mean, there's your work, your craft, dedication, whatever, your reputation is a part of what you do, we're no different than other people, which is to be wrongly accused of something is one of the most painful things you can deal with. for someone to say something about you that isn't true and to disseminate something far and wide about you that isn't true, that's a big struggle today in the age of the internet and everything, to combat people who sit there and say, you know, joe blow did this. and joe blow's guilty of this. they say things about you. it spreads like wild fire. before you know it, i'll walk down the street and have something happen and i'll walk in the door, i'm not kidding, this is like a woody allen movie, you walk in the door, i love woody to do a movie about the internet and social media. my door man says, i'm awful sorry, mr. baldwin. i'm like -- >> he already knows. >> i read on the internet that you had, that, know, with that, whatever. you had that thing with that guy
down in, you know. >> you punched this guy out. >> you caught that guy by the courthouse. not very smart, mr. baldwin, not very smart. cops everywhere, courthouse. you've got a couple blocks away. behind the hot dog stand maybe. you know, the ups guy getting out of the truck. mr. baldwin, not too smart. >> that was the funny part of it. but it's a serious conversation, and what's interesting, they do acknowledge the benefits of fame, which are many. at the same time, her legitimate concern, and it is different in europe about her children, new child as we know, and the sense of sometimes the altercations that take place and you never really know exactly what sets a person off. you can't figure out -- >> true. >> -- exactly what might have happened to not have had that happen. >> it's also scary when you think about children. i went to a matinee of a performance in new york city just a couple of months ago.
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welcome. >> in the interest of full discovery i should say that my program is on hulu. for the benefit of the audience, what is hulu and what does it mean? where did you get the name? >> i'll start with the last one first, which is the name hulu is a mandarin word. it comes from a parable that says hulu is the holder of great things. we're all about premium video, precious video. so that's where the name comes from. what hulu is is an online video service that lets you watch what you want, when you want, how you want it. that's what motivates us. >> and who's your competition? >> well, it's any one or anything that competes for screen time. when people make decisions about watching something on a screen, that's competition. >> why would i go to hulu rather than go to, say, cbs.com? >> in that particular case, the real value for hulu is aggregation. instead of getting a small subset of programming you can get content from over 380
different content partners. obviously -- which adds to the appeal in a big way. >> the benefit is it's not one network and one website you get a lot of choices. >> you aggregate? >> absolutely. >> what does it cost? people are used to getting things for free online. >> they are. we have two services. one is free. the original hulu service is free and ad supported. there's a relatively new service which is hulu plus which allows you to access great content on any device, and that's a subscription fee. >> where are people watching it? once you convince people to pay for it. >> yes. >> which is the great hurdle in many ways, do they watch more on, say, an ipad, on their smartphone, on their pc? >> so it's changed. it's interesting. it's changed a lot over the last 18 months since we launched that service. the pc originally was the single biggest use case. now you see gaming con soles being a big, big deal, xbox, ps
3, nintendo wii. last category is smart phones. >> here's what you also get. you guys, you guys meaning you, hulu, netflix are not only aggregating, you'll produce programming for hulu? >> yes. we just launched earlier this year our first series called "battleground." it was so fun because on my way in here somebody who works for the program was gushing about how great the show was. so you're absolutely right, we are producing a number of original series for hulu. >> two questions about the world we live in today. people are going to watch television five years from now how? >> so i think that the most important thing about the future of television is that it will be personalized. when you turn on a screen it will be a very unique experience for you versus erica's experience. >> will we turn on an ipad or whatever the competition is for ipad or smartphone or will we watch it on big screen at our home? where is the predominant place to watch video? >> i think the predominant place is going to be sitting in a living room. i do think that ultimately will
account for the most minutes, but it's not going to matter because television can be in your pocket with a smartphone, it can be up on a wall, it can be in a little tablet. it will be everywhere. >> do you think the networks are worried about you? >> when i talk to a lot of folks in the industry, at the end of the day content producers have confidence in their content and the notion that there's more places to distribute their content is good news. >> i tell you who is worried, advertisers are worried when they see machines that can allow people to skip the advertising. >> absolutely. they should be. if you're an advertiser, you care about two things. one, how do you get your message out to a lot of people and how do you do it effectively? >> you also rely on ads for that free service. >> we do. >> does that concern you at all? >> for us we're in a very good spot because you can't skip through the modest amount of advertising on hulu. for us, we're actually a big friend of madison avenue. it allows us to keep it service free for consumers. >> jason, thank you very much for being here. kathy ireland is with us. we'll talk about her hugely successful career.
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>> traffic has come to a slow crawl up and then it's right now. you can see it right there pass the coliseum. we typically around this time of the morning see a bottleneck in that area anyway sodas extra slow in downtown oakland. we're seeing all lot of brake lights through antioch and the golden gate bridge, nice flow all the way across the span. it is a little slow out of nevada heading toward san rafael. >> we're starting out summer around the bay area of looking good. a little bit of haze in the atmosphere and still some fog towards the beaches but not much. temperatures are heating up in a hurry. 66 in livermore, 64 in san jose. today is probably the peak of
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fifth on what adams is insisting on calling a botched robbery. what actually happened was that henchmen took a piece literally out of his -- >> you just heard him say there was ruppers on fifth base, botched robbery. team officials say a migraine may explain his confusion. he is expected to miss a few gam games. we wish him, of course, a speedy recovery. a lot of people were scratching their heads wondering what had happened. about two lose, california will soon make it illegal because of animal cruelty concerns. ben tracey reports that fans are rushing to get it while they still can. >> michael is one of the hottest young chefs in l.a. his "top chef" winner is about to lose one of his favorite foods. the first time you tasted it, it
like changes you. you know, you eat it and it's like wow. i can't even talk about it and put it into words. it's that type of ingredient. it's just good. >> reporter: he's talking about this, the expensive french delicacy made from fattened duck livers. he serves it as his signature waffle. >> it's so delicious and scrumptio scrumptious. it's the flavor that really makes it. >> reporter: across town this chef is trying to keep up with the feeding frenzy. >> table of six. >> reporter: mhis mischelin started release has been crowded. >> the creamy flavor, rich texture. it's amazing. >> reporter: well, not these people. >> animal cruelty has got to go. >> reporter: protesters are packed in front of his doors. >> if you would close your big i guess nor rant mouth long enough
to area the answer -- >> reporter: and are ready for a fight. >> you're a vegan and you have a vegan agenda. >> reporter: animal rights advocates call this the delicacy of despair because ducks and geese are usually force fed corn. >> it is one of the most cruelly obtained foods that i am aware of the you want to consider it to be food. >> reporter: john burton pushed the law in the california legislature and backed by some chefs including wolfgang puck. burton dismisses critics saying it is not harmful. although he admits he's never seen it done in person. >> i'm banning putting tubes down ducks' and geese' throats and forcing food through theires so gus. that's what i'm banning. >> reporter: this ban is not just impacting the chefs that want to serve it, it's on the one family in california who actually makes this product, here at this farm. how many ducks did you used to have out here?
>> in this orchard there used to be about 30,000. >> reporter: 30,000 ducks? >> yes. >> reporter: gonzales has been making it here for 26 years. he's now out of a job. are you angry? >> no, i'm not angry. i'm sad. i'm sad and i'm offended. >> reporter: offended because he says people don't understand how it's made. he says the feeding mimics the goinging the animals do in the wild before they migrate. they have no gag reflex and can store a lot of food in their esophagus before digesting it. >> the key to obtain the best is to take the best care of the animals from day one until the last day. >> reporter: the last days are now here for him and his wife's business. they say the new law forced them to shut down. back at his restaurant, he finds the debate hypocritical. he sees little difference
between serving this or both beef and chicken. >> i don't know that any animal enjoys the process that it goes through from being out in a field to ending up on someone's plate. >> reporter: diners in california have just 11 days before this particular duck dish disappears. for "cbs this morning," ben tracey, los angeles. >> renowned chef owns the think food group in washington. he is an outspoken advocate for improved health and nutrition. good morning. >> good morning. >> so tell me what you think of this ban and what -- are we making too much of it? >> well, i think we should let them start taking care of what's happening in the economy in california and not giving in to something like is that the right thing, deliver the right thing or not. it's very funny to me the
legislature has driving to the farm to see how actually that farm operates. and you cannot be legislating without knowing. so this is the first thing that i don't think is right. come on, guys. if you're going to be moving forward on something, first you have to have all the knowledge before you are going to be doing something so important. >> california is not the only state though that has been concerned. other countries have been concerned. >> correct, countries like israel or countries like argentina. but, come on, we've been giving this for over 2,000 years. the way these farmers are taking care of the ducks today has improved dramatically over the last 20 years. so here what we are doing is farmers, truly are taking care of those animals like never before. so i'm saying let's go to the table. let's talk. let's be rational but let's not
ban something. why? because if we ban ducks right now, guys, start with chicken, turkey, and your hot dogs and burgers on fourth of july. this is what's is behind this law. it's something kind of very dark. the foie is like an easy win for the groups that are trying to ban almost any meat. >> do you think, jose, you think they're trying to ban almost any meat but there have been some legitimate concerns about the way food is processed in this country. you heard the chef there say there's not probably any animal who enjoys the process from the farm to the plate. are there other areas, you think, should be looked at right now? chicken, for example, veal? >> sure, but -- sure, no. but what we are seeing is that the food industry is working very, very hard to improve the food that as humans eat and also to improve the living conditions that every single animal that we eat, you know, come on, at the end of the day, we are killing
every one of those animals. i mean, if you are saying that the way we treat the duck is kind of inhumane, guys, what do you think? what do you think of the way we are killing them at the end of the process? come on. we are at the top of the chain and we are eating animals. i think the farmers are improving the way they are taking care of those ducks and i don't think that should be the reason why to ban. what we should be doing is talking. and talking about what we can be moving this issue forward. banning things is not the way to be moving forward with this issue. >> some people are saying, as you know, you are simply voicing your pocket book. >> well, you know, this is a very sure way to see it because right now with this ban, i'm not an economist but i know that we're going to have hundreds if not thousands of people losing their jobs because of this ban. and you know i don't think we should be having legislators putting people out of business, out of jobs, especially in a moment that what we need in america is to be taking care of the job, to be taking care of
job creation, and growing the economy. so something like this to me is very sad, especially in california where we have so many issues with the economy, et cetera, et cetera. >> one last question for you, chef. do you find it at all cruel the way some of these animals are force fed, to create that foie gras? >> i'm going to answer you, i've been to the farms, hudson valley, new york. i've seen how the farmers have been taking care of those ducks. i've been in the spain, a beautiful farm in the southwest part of spain that farmers are really changing and improving the methods of feeding those ducks. me, i have no issue. we've been doing this for thousands of years. and to me it has bigger issues in america like making sure that children are not hungry, creating jobs, et cetera, et cetera. that's the real issues to me. i don't think that we are doing something wrong to those animals.
actually when i go to the farms the only thing i see is very happy ducks, very happy chickens, very happy porks, and things are improving day by day. >> a happy duck and chicken. thank you. >> see you soon. >> all right. >> nice to see you. for many victims of domestic violence a dog is a woman's best friend. this morning we'll show you how one woman and her great dane are helping other victims stay safe and together.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
every day battered women go to domestic violence shelters in this country, but sometimes they do not stay because they're not allowed to keep their pets. >> that was the rule at a shelter in kansas city until one victim and her heroic dog needed help. as michelle miller reports, those rules have now changed and so has the shelter. >> what was going through your mind? >> reporter: the woman at the podium -- we'll call her mckenzie -- is out of focus to protect her identity.
>> when your life is being threatened and you're in that situation, you don't think. >> reporter: her life could depend on it. >> just make it through the next blow, just make it through the next second. >> reporter: it's already been saved once by her 140-pound great dane. he protected her from a brutal attack at the hands of her boyfriend. >> he grabbed me by my shirt and put me through the wall. >> threw you into the wall. >> no. through the wall. literally drywall, boards, nails, to the other side. >> reporter: hearing the commotion, the dog came to investigate. >> and my boyfriend goes in to hit me and he laid on top of me. >> reporter: he absorbed the blows meant for mckenzie. frustrated her attacker, picked up the heroic canine and threw him off the porch. then led him to this busy
intersection and left him. mckenzie would escape. she rushed to this police station. cops sent her to a women's shelter, the rosebrook center. but mckenzie was thinking of j. matthew. >> i said let me go get my dog and we'll come back. they said, well, we really don't accept dogs. i say, we'll drive out of town and just go stay at a rest stop. >> what is it about this dog that you were not going to part with? >> the fact that he saved my life. how could i not save him? how could i walk away from him? >> mckenzie's not alone. as many as 40% of battered women say they don't leave abusive situations because they're afraid to leave their pets behind. >> just like so many of us who are pet lovers, j. matthew is her family, her safe place and her child. >> reporter: susan miller is the
rosebrook center ceo. >> what could we do? we made an exception and i must say, we're glad we did. >> reporter: the center broke its own no-pets policy and welcomed them both in. >> it was just great to see the bonding that they had, the healing process that they went through together. it really made us realize that this was something that we needed to do that we needed to provide this opportunity for women to bring their pets. >> reporter: and so they did. unveiling last week a brand-new pet kennel, adjacent to the center. they dedicated it to mckenzie and jay matthew. how rewarding is it knowing that your story helped to create a place where pets are allowed? >> it is awesome. it is -- it is amazing. >> reporter: but the kennel is more than just an accommodation to pets. it is a potential life saver. >> to be able to know that a woman will no longer have to make that choice, that they will
either have to try and get safe or have to abandon their pet, it's worth everything. >> there's no doubt in your mind that this new pet policy will save lives? >> absolutely none. no doubt. this pet shelter is life. >> michelle miller is with us now. you know you're here with two big dog lovers. this is a fantastic story. how are mckenzie and jay matthew doing today? >> they're doing great. though mckenzie doesn't have a full-time job, she is working steady. she spent 60 days -- 90 days in the shelter and is now out and the great thing is that jay matthew now is a dog of valor. deemed such by the u.s. humane society. >> what happens to mckenzie's attack sf attacker? >> he spent 60 days on probation, sentenced to 60 days of probation and is now free. one of the reasons why we had to protect mckenzie's identity. >> michelle, thank you.
kathy ireland has always had determination. she went from the cover of "sports illustrated" swimsuit issue to the cover of "forbes" magazine. >> she's now ceo and chief designer of kathy ireland worldwide, a $2 billion retail empire that started 20 years ago with socks. pleased to have her with us now. welcome. >> thank you. >> so how did you do it? >> that's a great question. a lot of times people i think wonder why and how. i entered the modeling industry as a business person already, as a designer. designed as a child. my mom made dresses.
i made coordinating accessories and jewelry. we sold them at the beach. modeling for me was really an education and exposed me to the best designers in the world. it was college in many ways. and i often felt more like a spy learning the industry and the trade secrets rather than a model. >> but i mean to build a $2 billion empire requires some remarkable skills, i would assume. >> i think it's all about people and if i have any skill, i think it's being a good judge of people and really building relationships. some say it was counterintuitive building our brand with a single pair of socks. we were able to grow our brand beneath the radar for a long time until "forbes," wwd licensed global magazine outed our brand. i think one of the reasons we were able to be so discrete is our distribution, our foundation
as the independent retailer. typically independent retailers don't have large ad budgets. so while others were buying awareness, we were building relationships one at a time. >> so obviously a lot of the air wearness though comes from your name. yet you said that maybe this would have been a little bit different and perhaps you would have been looked at differently if you weren't a model first. do you think you would have initially had more respect as a ceo if you didn't have that background? >> there are times when i think if i showed up pat a business meeting with my stretch and my designs, my business plan in hand, without that extra preconception that people have -- and when women say, well it's easy for you, you have a-month-olding background -- i say you've got a clean slate, can you build your brand from the ground up with a clean slate and that's a perfect way to go. that anonymity is really priceless. >> did warren buffett advise to you go into home furnishings? >> we began in the home industry with flooring, with our partners
at shaw industry and it is part of berkshire hathaway, also nebraska furniture mart. it was one of our first retail partners. something that he said early on was, fashion and apparel, it cycles so quickly. in home it's more consistent. i listened carefully. it's good advice and i love working with great mentors. >> good person to listen to. >> if you have to listen to somebody about business, that's a good place to start. so where do you want this to go? what are your dreams? >> with the elasticity of our mission that began with finding solutions for families, especially business moms, it's expanded to finding solutions for people in love, finding solutions for people in business. there are always solutions that our clients need. our brand is not perfect. i'm certainly not. our philosophy is life is messy. but if we can bring some beauty, if we can bring some solutions, that is what we're looking to do, working with great people. i'm here in new york this week
>> good morning, it is 855. whitson if you caught up on some of the bay area headlines. thousands of jobs could be created as local and moves ahead with plans to develop its former army base. calls for local residents to get at least half the jobs as well a bicyclist is in court today in connection, charged with vehicular manslaughter. a 71 year-old man died in april after a bike hit him at market and castro street. opening statements to begin today in the trial of a san francisco man accused of beating a priest who he says sexually
abused him decades ago. he faces assault and elder abuse charges. if convicted he could face up to four years in jail. a little bit of summer today, the first day and the longest day of the year. >> it will be hot like it should be on the first day of summer. plenty of sunshine at mount diablo. right now we're keeping things up already in the '50s and upper 60s. it won't be long until we talk about maybe even nineties in the valleys. we will see low pressure drop in tomorrow. 93 degrees in livermore, and 90 in concord. cooler weather on the way for tomorrow. traffic is coming up.
>> out towards the east bay, north down 880 is really jammed up. now we're getting a word of an accident northbound so the drive time continues to grow. more than 40 minutes so it is very heavy traffic. an accident westbound interstate 80 approaching cutting. slow and go so here are the drive * from westbound