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good morning. it is july 30th, 2016. welcome to "cbs this morning: saturday." are hackers trying to sway the election? the fbi investigates after the clinton campaign confirms its computer service was breached. plus, zika arrives in the u.s. florida scrambles to find out why the virus is spreading. >> are they life savers or cash cows? a new study shows what you don't see from those red light cameras. 80 years ago, these college students beat the odd. the triumph that the berlin
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olympic games. inside a new documentary on america's boys in the boats. we begin this morning with a look at today's "eye opener." your world in 90 seconds. >> we have 100 days to make our case to america. >> they are off and running to november. >> i don't have to be so nice any more. i'm taking the gloves off, right? yes? take them off. it's going to be no more mr. nice guy. >> for donald trump, i mean, all of this stuff, crooked hillary and lyin ted and now patty cake? >> the fbi is investigating a potential hack on some of the hillary clinton campaign computers. the russian government is its lead suspect. >> zika contracted here. several zika virus cases in miami have likely become a first for the company. >> that is really terrible news it's coming to close to home. >> severe weather has been beating up on parts of arizona overnight. heavy rain, strong winds, and
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hail. even a dust storm. >> a bear in the pool. you don't get to see that very often. he's in the house. >> do you see that? this is video out of hawaii. >> that is a smiley face? >> yes. a volcano with a smiley case. the eyes and mouth were actually formed by the glowing lava. >> all that. >> zimmerman has got it. it's a double play. it's going to be a triple play! >> unbelievable. >> and all that matters. >> panda tripletses have separated their second birthday in style and he is chomping down on that. >> on "cbs this morning: saturday." >> the conventions are over! >> democrats, they did the thing that you always do in a political convention that the republicans forgot to do. >> you get to the end and said we definitely said we loved america right. check the tape. >> i thought you were going to say that. >> someone said it, i'm sure. we must have said it.
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i'm sure we said it. welcome to the weekend, everyone. we have a big show for you this morning starting with senate majority leader small. the craft of miniatures has been around for centuries but what is it that draws us to this tiny world? we will explore. plus, a hot new trend for shopper. alcohol. we will look at why more retailers are opening bars inside their stores. in the summer of block busters, they are the films that flew under the radar. we will show you some of the critically acclaimed movies that you can see this weekend in theaterseses or at home. first, our top story this morning. concerns over hacking and the presidential election. with just 100 days until votes are cast, the fbi is investigating another cyberattack. >> according to the clinton campaign, a computer service they used was hacked as part of
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a larger breach of the democratic national committee. the democratic national campaign committee claims they have an intrusion as well. marlie hall is here with more. >> reporter: good morning. the fbi and justice department are investigating the hacking that shaken up the democratic party. many cybersecurity experts and the president say they have little doubt that russia's government is the top suspect. and now more information from the democratic party could be compromised. >> hello, harrisburg! >> rep the hacking is yet another hit for the democratic party. dnc chair debbie wasserman
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schultz resigned before the democratic convention patholofo the leaking of wikileaks e-mail. . many think vladimir putin is trying to influence the election to get donald trump elected. >> russia, if you're listen, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. i think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. >> reporter: trump later called those comments sarcastic and denied any involvement with russia. but in an interview with nbc news, president obama would not rule that out. >> i know that experts have attributed this to the russians. let the motives were in terms of the leaks and all that, i can't say directly. what i do know is that donald trump has repeatedly expressed admiration for vladimir putin. >> reporter: trump wouldn't back down in colorado. >> everybody has been hacked,
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okay? they have no idea who is doing it. they have no idea who is doing it. >> reporter: the democratic congressional campaign committee has hired a security firm crowd strike to investigate the attack. they and other security firms say they found evidence that the hackers are russian but there is still no confirmation. >> thank you. for more what is going on in this very unusual election, we turn to fran townsend, cbs news national security analyst. kremlin is denying they are behind this attack. if it is russia, what do they have to gain? >> let's talk about the attribution to russia. you're hearing they are the top suspect that people are reluctant to actually say definitively it's them. why? what we know is that the code related to this hack is the same code that was for the white house, the state department and the pentagon. and that was attributed to russia. the problem is once these hacks
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become public, the code is normally posted online. other hackers go on and look at it and it becomes accessible so somebody else could have used this. a copycat could have used it to make the russians look bad. the russians are denying it and hard to definitively say this is the russians. >> if they change the code they can change the information they steal. >> a real danger. the you'd have a campaign then in the conundrum saying this is my data but it's an altered. >> so much talk about donald trump's encouragement which he says was sarcastic to encourage this type of es spionage.
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>> you can imagine if the information was stolen by the russians and given it to wikileaks to release, i wonder if he found that his own campaign had been breached, right? if they breach the dnc and they breached their campaign, it's likely that they had the capability certainly to breach his. these leaks are not over yet. we are going to see -- wikileaks has threatened to release more and they have more and you're going to see this. we ought to get used to the story continuing throughout the campaign. >> how concerned are officials if confidential systems like this have been so vulnerable. >> the single worse was the opm breach. people like me who worked in government had their information stolen in background investigation and all senior officials. cabinet officials from prior administrations. it includes your banking
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information and your whole life is in there really. >> fran townsend, thanks so much. >> thank you. the questions about cybersecurity come as clinton returns to the campaign trail as the democratic nominee. the latest reuters poll taken during the week of the democratic convention shows clinton holding a six-point edge over donald trump. >> clinton and tim kaine are campaigning in pennsylvania and ohio this weekend. they are trying to boost the economy and adding more jobs during the first 100 days in washington. errol is here with more. >> reporter: on the heels of hillary clinton's historic nomination, the democratic party is feeling energized, right? the clinton campaign wants to take that momentum to the battleground states of pennsylvania and ohio. two states president obama won in 2012, but as we all know, this election is much different. >> we have 100 days to make our case to america.
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>> reporter: joined by her husband, former president bill clinton, and running mate senator tim kaine, hillary clinton kicked off a three-day, cross-state bus tour in philadelphia, focused on the economy. >> within the first 100 days of our administration, we are going to break through the gridlock in washington and make the biggest investment in new good paying jobs since world war ii. >> reporter: it's through the rust belt named because of its long declining industry. in a recent cbs "the new york times" poll, voters feel donald trump would better handle the economy by almost ten points. clinton is trying to to discredit him. >> i find it highly amusing that donald trump talks about make america great again. he doesn't make a thing in america except bankruptcies. >> reporter: the tour is highlighting success stories like this toy manufacturer in hatfield, pennsylvania. >> this is fabulous looking. >> reporter: the company that has been hiring american workers
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and building locally for over 25 years. >> we can bring jobs back from china and other places if we make up our minds to do that. >> reporter: but clinton still struggles with gaining the trust of voters. a recent poll showed her at record lows, something her running mate is trying to turn around. >> if you want to know about trust worthiness and character of somebody in public life, look to see. >> we trust hillary. >> all right. he got to the punch line. he got to the punch line. >> now for donald trump, ohio and pennsylvania are seen as crucial as he has fewer past to the essential 270 electorate votes needed to win. to block him the clinton campaign is hiring staff and planning to register 3 million voters. >> errol barnett in washington, thank you. republican presidential nominee donald trump reacted to hillary clinton's acceptance speech. in a rally in colorado springs, on friday, trump told supporters
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he would not longer be mr. nice guy. for the first time in the election system, he encouraged his supporters chances of "lock her up." >> every time i mention her, everyone screams lock her up. they keep saying that. you know what i do? i've been nice but after watching that performance last night, such lies. i don't have to be so nice any more. i'm taking the flofs o!e iing t right?overconvtions overning in. the voters go to the polls in a hundred ndred days. here is phillip bump, columnist. now that they sit down with federal agents for classified briefings. possible as early as next week? what happens in those? >> people doonn't understand ho
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the process works. a series of briefings, maybe one or two, maybe three they go to a secure facility and a group of people who work for the government and tell the briefers to outline a few pictures. not like troop movements but situate them in the world and people assume it's a presidential daily briefing and it's not that. >> the discretion of the president, correct? >> the president can say, no, these things are not happening but it's a tradition bark to eisenhower in 1952. as i spoke to this gentleman, worked around the campaign and fighting the obama campaign. they were in tough contested battle but he thought a good sign how the transition of power looks. >> what was your assessment of hillary clinton's speech? were these veiled sort of attacks on donald trump efficient? >> yeah. i think what she was trying to do is provide people who were worried with donald trump with an alternative. yes, she very pointedly called
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out donald trump but the democrats have been doing that of the course of four days and basically the theme of the convention was we are the stable patriotic party in contrast to donald trump and i think you saw that with president obama's speech as well. but, again, the one thing we have learned over the course of this election it's hard to predict what people are reacting to what donald trump is doing and so we will see. polls should be coming out next week. >> you've written that the best moment at either convention was the speech by a father of the muslim father of an army captain who was killed in iraq. why did you think that? >> it was an incredibly powerful and emotional moments. the democratic convention had a lot of emotional moments but this one in particular i think stood out. it was effective repudiation of donald trump's argument that families should not be allowed to immigrate because his son gave his life to this country. the fact this was running
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contrary to what the constitution says about religion and about freedom. he pulled it out and said you should read this. when you're doing a political convention that is the sort of moment you want to have and i think it's going to resonate over the long run. >> it was nice to see people in the audience crying when he held up that pocketbook. >> republicans even tweeted about that. >> phillip bump, thank you. tomorrow morning on "face the nation" on cbs, john dickerson's guests will include bernie sanders and paul manafort, donald trump's campaign manager, and reince priebus, chairman of the republican national committee. three states are dealt a setback. judges struck down laws in north carolina and wisconsin and kansas on friday. the critics say make it more difficult for minorities to vote. the biggest case a federal appeals court requires north carolina voters requiring voters to have photo i.d.s violates the constitution and the voting rights act and the judge says
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the law targets african-americans. lawmakers who wrote the law will appeal to the u.s. supreme court. new call for congress to reconvene this summer so lawmakers can pass an emergency spending bill to fight the spread of the zika virus and calls come as federal health officials confirm that the illness is coming from mosquito bites in southern florida. david begnaud reports and has local officials ramping up their outreach and prevention efforts. >> reporter: for the ten teams of disease detectives canvassing winwood, north of downtown miami and now identified as the zika zone. the four patients, three men and a woman, were infected in early july. got sick the next week. and diagnosed a few days later. by interviewing the patients and their friends and family, travel and sex were ruled out as means of transmission. state disease detectives honed
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in on one square mile winwood, as the area where they may have been infected. infectious disease doctor eileen marty is one of the team leader asking people for voluntary urine samples. >> door-to-door requests has allowed florida to make sure that ongoing mosquito transmission is happening in this area what gentleman led you to this area to start asking for those samples? >> because of where the symptomatic individuals are come from. >> reporter: one symptomatic person, you start door knocking and you find other cases? official believe local transmission began this way. the person became infected with zika abroad and then traveled to the u.s. the infection stays in the bloodstream for a week. when a local mosquito bites the person with zika virus and then bites someone else, the infection is transmitted. zika is particularly dangerous
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for pregnant women as the virus can cause severe birth defects. dr. saline phillip is florida's surgeon general. >> we understand that pregnant women will be very concerned and that is why we have been working closely with the providers in that area to provide the zika prevention kits to make sure pregnant women now how to decrease their risks. >> reporter: as part of the investigation, county workers are killing, as well as collecting, mosquitoes that can be tested for zika. of all the mosquitoes that have been caught and tested, not one has come back positive for the zika virus. it might surprise a lot of people but it doesn't really surprise investigators who say that in some ways, it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack, believe it or not. there are pregnant women who live in this zika zone and they are all being told that they need to get tested as soon as possible. later today, inspectors will be back out in this neighborhood knockig on every door. they want to talk to and warn everybody who lives in this area.
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for "cbs this morning: saturday," i'm david begnaud in miami, florida. phoenix area is drying out this morning after getting battered with heavy rain, strong winds and hail. on friday, streets were flooded and tens of thousands of people lost power with trees and power lines knocked down. a large part of the nation is expected to get a good soaking this weekend. here is meteorologist ed curran from our chicago station wbbm-tv. good morning, ed. >> reporter: good morning, anthony. you can see we have a lot of activity going on around the nation. in fact, most of the nation will see thunderstorms today as you can see from coast-to-coast practically. everybody will see something. some of the heavier storms could be in this area. marginal risk for severe and includes washington, d.c. and virginia and west virginia. damaging wind is the main culprit here. also a slight chance of severe weather a bit higher from the black hills to the central plains where it's slight or marginal in the green and damagng wind and large hail in
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those areas as well. you can see the storms on future cast here. later today from washington, d.c. up through new york. we are looking at temperatures that will be very warm today. 103 in phoenix and 101 in sacramento and 99 i . 103 in phoenix, 99 in dallas, and mid-90s to the southeast. >> from our chicago station, thank you. it is time to show you some of the morning's headlines. the san diego tribune are trying to find out if the kriticritica shooting of an officer were a deliberate attack. the standoff happened about 24 hours after bullets started noticing when the two gang officers stopped a man on the street. the attack comes with police departments on heightened alert following the targeted killing of officers in dallas and baton rouge. the washington post reports the u.s. and israel are moving closer to a block buster military aid package. the senior israeli official is
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expected to arrive in washington next week to work out what's expected to be a ten year pact exceeding $3 billion. the agreements of change in strategy by prime minister nettne nett nettennayu and wants to seal the deal after president obama is still in office, after suggesting to fine-tune with his success successor. an indiana family won a 536 mega million dollar jackpot, confirms the family created a limited liability corporation, which the keep spending plans out of view. it is the first time the family ever played. it was a $1 quick pick. as a $1 quick pick. >> is that right? what everybody dreams of, right? the orlando sentinel says is man cleared of drug charges after a police test said droppings from his glazed
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doughnut to be methamphetamine. the man was strip-searched and spent ten hours in jail despite the officers they were misidentifying the pieces of sugar. the charges were dropped three days after the arrest in december. "the new york times" reports the latest installment of the "harry potter" series is set to hit book stores at midnight tonight. while there will be released parties and magic shows at thousands of shops across the country, there's a twist. the newest book is a play and unlike the first seven books in the series, this time's author j.k. rowling worked with a collaborator as a play wright and a director. here is a look at your weather for the weekend.
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coming up for most of us, they are annoyance but new numbers are shedding light on red light cameras. do they prevent crashes or are they just a money grab? air travelers are getting a pleasant surprise this summer. ticket prices are lower than they have been in years. what is behind it? and how long will it last? you're watching "cbs this morning: saturday." ,,,,,,,,,,
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it's a time of tradition on the campaign trail. donald trump holding not one but two babies at an event in colorado springs on friday. >> it looks like all of the excitement is a little too much for one of them. the infants are 3 and 6 months old. >> coming up, big world made of tiny things. we will look at the captivating world of miniatures. we will break down the best under the radar films of the summer also. we will be right back. you're watching "cbs this morning: saturday." ,,,,,,,,
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>> you know what? because it's a story that people tend to forget with all of the attacks and the scandals and all of this. they love each other. it is so evident. they have loved each other since they first met. i saw that when i met them. i see that every time i see them together. and families fight and families have imperfections but they are a family. they are a wonderful family and
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they love each other and i saw it again the night she clenched the nomination, i guess with the number in brooklyn. i was there. and as they came up together, i watched them and the way they looked at each other and i was so emotional about it. here they still are and they still love each other. >> she made history last night. i think it's fascinating, carole, you went door-to-door for her. i wonder what it's like. tell me something you go and you knock on the door and they see it's you and you say what? >> okay, let's enact it. knock knock. >> hello. i open the door. oh, my god, it's carole king! >> yes, but i'm here -- >> why are you here? >> i'm here today because i want to advocate for hillary clinton. then, you know, the person gets down to that is what i'm there for, but there is always that reaction. it was so interesting because i ran into some people who were staunch bernie supporters and i was very respectful because i think he's a great person. ,,,,,,,,
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♪ this is the busiest season of the year for the airlines. yet, fares are down. in fact, many air travelers are finding prices they haven't seen in half a dozen years. >> that is hammering the bottom lines of many of the nation's biggest carriers. cbs news transportation correspondent kris van cleave explains. >> reporter: planes packed with summer travelers should be a sign of success for airlines, but new data shows the average domestic air fare for the first part of 2016 dropped nearly 8% over last year, falling to the lowest point since 2010. airlines, especially ultra low fare carriers, spirit, frontier and allegiant, have grown aggressively and expanding
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capacity just as terror attacks in europe and economic uncertainty in britain and strong dollar and increased competition are cutting into lucrative routes for united, american, delta, and southwest, despite the low fuel prices. >> i think you'll see airlines have lower profits than they would have expected for the back half of the year and for 2017. >> reporter: josh marks is an airline consultant. >> the major carriers are seeing a lot of competition, on routes, particularly in leisure markets where they had a significant market share before and we are seeing growth by ultra low cost carriers that are offering rock bottom fare. >> reporter: on average, vacation fares have dropped 17% since last july. l.a. to paris round trip went for as much as $1,500 and now can be had for less than $400. new york to hong kong was 900 a year ago. now it's under 500. chicago to san diego rarely dipped below $200 until ultra low fare carriers added service, dropping fares as low as $80 round trip.
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george hobeck runs air fare watch dog, a website tracking prices. >> i think for domestic travel, these are the best air fares in five years and for international travel on some routes, the best air fares we have ever seen. >> reporter: the airline businesses is notoriously boom and bust. last year was record profits and this year, the airlines are now saying they expect to see revenue to decline but still expect to end the year in the black. kris van cleave, cbs news, washington. great dailies there. coming up, olympic gold for the boys of 36. it's a documentary based on a best selling book about the underdog american rowing team that stared down the nazis at the 1936 olympics. first, here is a look at the weather for your weekend.
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up next, medical news in our "morning rounds," incding an important warning about possible health risks from some of dietary supplements. plus, doctors tara narula and her husband david congelo on what could go wrong when you use fillers to make your face look more youthful. this is "cbs this morning: saturday." announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by toyota. let's go places! always been rivals. ave we would dream about racing each other, in monaco. ♪ we were born brothers. competition made us friends. wish bold in the 2017 camry. toyota. let's go places.
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♪ ♪ it is time for "morning rounds." this week with haa husband and wife medical team. first up, a new investigation may have you rethinking some of vitamins. consumer reports finds certain ingredients in daietary supplements could hold major risks.
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>> bobby and his wife margaret have struggled to get pregnant. he decided to try over-the-counter testosterone supplements. within weeks, he wound up in the emergency room. doctors said the supplements were the likely culprit. >> i had no idea there were side effects. i thought it was just like vitamins. >> reporter: he is one of ruffle 200 million americans taking dietary supplements. consumer reports identified 15 commonly used supplement ingredients the potentially harmful. some examples, one area of concern is supplements do not undergo the rigorous regulatory scrutiny that other drugs
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undergo. >> it is something compared to what it takes to sell aspirin or tylenol. >> reporter: this doctor says the doctors and patients don't discuss supplements which could lead to problems. how important is it for physicians to ask patients about supplement use? >> the most important part of this is to understand why they are taking it because many times, if you understand why they are taking it, you can steer them in the proper direction. >> i wouldn't have thought to ask about supplements. in my head they seem to natural and healthy. >> it's so important and patients think what you did which if it's natural, it's safe. there are real risks associated with these products. with a lack of proven effectiveness for most of them. many of these products land patients in the emergency room up to 28,000 visits a year from supplements. patients can have serious organ
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damage and some deaths resulting from this because of the lax regulation you you have no idea if your product is contaminated with heavy metals or other drugs are in there and how those supplements are interacting with your own prescription medications so a lot of issues around there. >> new concerns about medical tourism. the cdc estimates up to 750,000 u.s. citizens travel abroad for medical care each year. the most common procedures include cosmetic surgery and dentistry and heart surgery. a recent report warns about another danger regarding the growing practice. david, what is the new risk? >> well, the cdc recently talked about an outbreak of micro bacterial infections in patient who are cosmetic surgery in the dominican republic. they looked are where they covered 21 cases across the united states and six states were involved. now what we are talking about with these infections is that,
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you know, there are infections of the skin and soft tissue of the surgical site and they can be very painful and can cause abscess formation. the real issue is to treat these things, patients often require further surgery, they require antibiotics and sometimes prop longed use of antibiotics because a lot of these bugs are resistant to treatment. what is really important for patients to understand is that when you have surgery in another country, the standards for sterility and upkeep of medical facilities and surgical equipment is not the same. you really are putting yourself at risk by having surgery abroad. >> it seems like the price tag is the lure. so on which when you hear people say i did something overseas they say i paid so much less. i would imagine additional pitfalls involved in that choice? >> that is true. pitfalls regard things like communication between the doctor and the patient. if you have surgery in a country where you don't speak the same language, the patient and the
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surgeon potentially don't communicate very well and if they are not on the same page, there is a potential for poor outcomes or unexpected outcomes for the patient. other issues involved are medical standards are not the same in other on countries. so, for example, a doctor may use a needle on one patient and then carry it to another patient. the other thing is medicines, for example, are not regulated in the same way, so it's very possible that you use a medicine that is just completely uneffective. the last thing that people sort of have to really worry about is when you do travel long distances, if you travel too close to your surgery date, you are at increased risk for blood clots and the legs and that could be fatal. >> tara, if you're considering having surgery in a foreign country, what do you do to minimize the risks? >> reconsider. but if you are going to do it, do your homework and your research. make sure the doctor or facility you're using is credentialed and
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certified and choose a doctor in the specialty or field you're looking to have a surgery to have done. don't go to a gynecologist for a face-lift, for example. what is your follow-up care plan? come back to the states and take my stitches out and if there is a complication. find out if you can drink alcohol and sunpa dssunpage andg after the surgery. you make sure you bring someone with you or you know how you're going to communicate when you're down there and what potential legal recourse i might have if there is a problem. for us this morning one of the most popular nonsurgical cosmetic procedures. facial rejuvenation with fillers. more than 2 million if i recall procedures took place last year and 6% increase from 2014. for many patients there is one fear looking fake or plastic after the treatment. it's the duck lips. i feel like you see so many women with these crazy duck lips. what changes that makes the face look to different? >> duck lips are definitely an issue. really, the bigger issue sort of occurs when we lose volume in
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our pit face. so our cheeks get flat and we develop holes around our eyes. we try to replenish that volume by using fillers. the issue is if you use too much fillers you end up distorting facial proportion so the cheeks become really puffy and lower eyelids push up and makes the opening of the eye look smaller than it normally is. what is really important for patients who are looking to have these procedures done, is they need to find somebody who is board certified, a board certified plastic surgeon is sort of the safest person to do the procedure. in addition, you have to really sort of make sure that you're going to somebody that really understands the artistry of facial aesthetics and that could be a hard thing to find. >> thank you doctor. known is the most beautiful and accomplished couple, thank you for jioining us. including, the underdogs of
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through these flag streets, hitler opened the 1936 olympian. >> 80 years ago monday, the olympic games opened in nazi, berlin. the american team was 400 strong but nine rowers from the pacific northwest that took the nation by storm. new pbs documentary inspired by the best selling boat "the boys in the boat." telling about the rogue team that triumphed against all odd. >> the americans come in as poor athletes from an unknown part of the world. their epic is because these guys worked on farms and crappy jobs. they are sort of a purity versus this artfist. >> the boys of 36 airs tuesday
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on pbs. joining us is the film's director and producer margaret rossy. >> good morning. >> we heard in the documentary that saying the rowers had crappy jobs. they were janitors and damaged lungs from working in the films. how did they find these rowers and how did they all come together? >> i think rowing was a part of the community in seattle and they were surrounded by water so they had an established program. i think that rowing was probably one of the distractions from hard times in a way. a refuge kind of to start of but it is very difficult sport but i think the guys find out how tough it was. >> the team didn't come together initially. there were disagreements and it was pretty toxic at times, right? >> they were led by a coach who was referred to in the papers as the dowered dean. he was kind of obsessed.
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he, himself, was a rower washington a decade before and he was very obsessed with getting the boat to go to the olympics. so it caused a lot of friction among the boys, a lot of tension. they felt his tension and his obsession. >> i think people traditionally think of rowing and as an elite sport also. as you watched them beat these major ivy league teams you can't help but champion them and think this is people from a different class of life. how important was the victory to these guys? >> they were very important. the rowing season, from what i've learned, basically, when you row in seattle, you row all year through the winter for one or two races and that is basically the season. in the olympic year, of course, you hope to go a little further. so they had never been there before to the olympics so it was very important when they beat these ivy league teams to get to go to berlin. >> let's set the stage for the '36 olympics. hitler wanted complete german dominance in those games.
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what were they up against? >> the germans hand-picked their team and they let guys quit their jobs and let them train for the olympics. hitler really wanted to win and he wanted to win what they call a heavyweight, that is the marquee race, the rowing. they were up against that. they were entering this kind of -- this kind of shiny city, this nazi berlin. it was shiny and artificial. and these guys were very down to earth. guys from the pacific northwest. >> as you were macking this movie, what weas your hope for viewers? what did you want them to walk away with? >> i hope they would enjoy the visuals. we were surprised how much footage we were able to find. >> i was surprised too. it was amazing. >> i hope theynd these guys had a daily sense of purpose and i think that is what we all kind of take away from this book. >> right. margaret, thanks so much "the
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boys of 36" airs on pbs at 9:00 p.m. eastern on tuesday. check your local listings. up next, hillary clinton is the first woman to become a mainly party presidential candidate. next, meet some of the women whose shoulders she stands on. they were all first in their time. you're watching "cbs this morning: saturday." i had that dream again -- that i was on the icelandic game show. and everyone knows me for discounts, like safe driver and paperless billing. but nobody knows the box behind the discounts. oh, it's like my father always told me -- "put that down. that's expensive." of course i save people an average of nearly $600, but who's gonna save me? [ voice breaking ] and that's when i realized... i'm allergic to wasabi. well, i feel better. it's been five minutes. talk about progress. [ chuckles ] okay. talk about progress. [ chuckles ] the things that i consume a lot of it is very acidic. the enamel on my teeth was actually weakening.
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the first woman to appear on the presidential ticket. >> i nominate judge sandra o'day. >> ronald reagan nominated s sandra day o'connor to the united states supreme court. but 100 years ago, janet rankin was the first woman elected to congress, four years before woman won the right to vote. even earlier than that, marie curry was making history. she became the first woman to win the nobel prize in 1903. speaking of prizes. edith wharton the first woman to take home the pulitzer for 1923 novel "the age of innocence." >> the worst is i want to kiss you and i can't. >> reporter: but it took 87 more years for a female director to
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be recognized at the oscars. >> well, the time has come. katherine bigalow! >> reporter: katherine bigalow won the academy award for her work. ♪ >> reporter: and after an all male inaugural class in 1986, aret aret aret aret aretha franklin was inducted into the rock & roll hall of fame. >> you heard a lot of people saying it's exciting to think that girls growing up right now will never know a world where a woman couldn't be a president. >> i saw a lot of tweets when a lot of women said i didn't realize how important this moment would be. the doll houses and tree houses are anything but child's play. we will take you inside the massive world of miniatureses. for some of you, your local news
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is next. the rest of you, stick around. you're watching "cbs this morning: saturday." noah picked apart donald trump's acceptance speech. >> so if you've been watching the show while hiding under your bed, i want you to know you can come out. come out. come out. unless you're hillary clinton. >> this is the legacy of hillary clinton. death, destruction, terrorism and weakness. >> and weakness. only donald trump would think that weakness is worse than death and destruction. because you end on the worst thing, donald -- yes, destruction. and weakness! it's like your doctor saying you have cancer, aids and a little spinach in your teeth. yeah, right there. you got to watch that. >> this week "the daily show"
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taking on the democrats in philadelphia. trevor, good morning. >> good morning. >> i assume being here for a comedian for "the daily show" is like candy. >> candy. >> is it candy? >> does it taste good? >> i feel like last week was canned i didn't. candy. an extreme form of candies. now we're going to a more measured food. maybe fruits. sugar but not as extreme. >> and michelle's speech. you talked about donald's speech. >> when you were in cleveland. >> wow, wow, it was goose bumps for everybody. i could feel the machinery of the dnc ticking going when do we get her into this conversation? do we wait for the girls to go to college? how do we get michelle because she was electric. the command of the microphone. the command of the audience. the ride that she took everybody on. it was truly one of the most amazing things i've ever season. i even said i would steal her
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welcome back to "cbs this morning: saturday." i'm anthony mason. >> and i'm vinita nair. the hottest new item in a clothing store may be a cool cocktail. we will show you how more and more businesses are adding bars to their stories. >> and we have some smaller critically acclaimed movies. >>miniatures. what is it that draws us into this small world of small object. the presidential campaign is disrupted by another computer
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hacking attack. the hillary clinton campaign says the computer service it used was attacked as part of a large breach of the democratic national committee. >> clinton did not mention infiltrations on friday, her first full day of campaigning as a democratic nominee. the fbi is trying to determine the scope and source of the cyberattack. cybersecurity experts believe the russian government is behind the hack. the clinton campaign released a statement saying, quote. >> democrat hillary clinton is campaigning in pennsylvania and ohio this weekend. battleground states in this year's presidential election. in philadelphia on friday, clinton told supporters if she is elected, she will get to work fast. >> within the first 100 days of our administraton, we are going to break through the gridlock in washington and make the biggest investment in new good, paying
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jobs since world war ii. >> clinton and her running mate senator tim kaine say they are preparing for a tough three mont acceptance for her nomination. he encouraged the chants of "lock her up." >> just remember this. trump is going to be no more mr. nice guy. tell hillary i'm not going to be nice any more. i've been very nice to her. >> trump criticized hillary clinton's acceptance speech as, quote, full of cliches and average. >> there are new calls for congress to reconvene so lawmakers can pass an emergency spending bill to fight the spread of the zika virus. those calls come as federal health officials confirm the first four cases of the mosquito-born virus were the
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result of mosquito bites in southern florida. inspectors are going door-to-door warning residents in the miami area today, where the three men and one woman became infected. moquito spraying is being ramped up. pope francis is in the middle of his five-day visit to poland and topping his visit is participation in a massive gathering of young people who raise their catholic faith. seth doane is traveling with the pope in the city of krakow. >> many pilgrims are coming up behind mean and many with sleeping bags and tents and planning to spend the night here to attend a mass the pope will give for an expected 1 million people. in american cultural terms you could think of this like a catholic woodstock. in american political terms, it would be called energizing your base. there are around 2,000 world youth day events. but there is no doubting the
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main attraction. how about the pope? have you spotted him? >> yes! >> reporter: this group from ashl asheville, north carolina, joined the main square here. pope francis encouraged the pilgrims gathered from 187 countries to make some noise and they left hand. john kalan is from pittsburgh. >> it's incredible to know that everybody came here for the same purpose, for faith. >> reporter: among the 27,000 americans registered for this journey is lauren kavini. running can pull people apart, how do you make sure you're not inwardly focused and you're thinking about other religions, other people? >> well, our religion focuses on taking care of the people around us and making sure that everything is okay and sharing the love of people who are outside of our religion too. >> reporter: pope francis set that example with his somber
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visit friday to the nazi death camps of auschwitz which we toured with a catholic group from ohio. >> part of what world youth say is about growing in your faith but also learning about others, and i feel like coming to auschwitz really puts you in other people's shoes and in other religions' shoes. >> reporter: first and foremost, this is about being catholic. one girl told me that she could just see a tiny little white speck, but she knew it was the pope and she said for her, that was enough. anthony? >> seth doane in poland, thanks. a new study about red light cameras. frustrated drivers have accused the cameras of being a cash cow for local governments, but a new report suggests they are saving lives with the strongest proof coming from the cities which have turned them off. carter evans hat story. >> reporter: crashes caused by red light runners kill more than 700 people a year.
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lives that could be saved if there were more red light cameras, according to a new study. >> motorehicle crashes don't have to be killing and injuring so many people. >> reporter: adrian lund is president of the insurance institute for highway safety. >> when people know there's a good chance of getting a ticket for running a light, they are most likely to be paying attention on that road. >> reporter: after complaints, the cameras primarily installed to raise revenue, more than 150 cities agreed to remove them. the insurance institute's new study suggests that might be a mistake. it looks at 14 of those cities and found 30% increase in the rate of fatal accidents at the intersections where cameras once huck hung. still there is evidence that the cameras don't always work properly. >> i was surprised when i saw it. >> reporter: jessica's 490 red light ticket was thrown out because she did not violate the law. do you think it's possible that these cameras could save lives? >> anything is possible.
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>> reporter: former los angeles city councilman dennis zion used to be an lapd motor officer and used to support red light cameras but now believes they weren't necessarily preventing reckless driving so the city turned them off. >> the problem with this situation inordinate number of people cited for a right turn after a stop on the red light. not people blazing through. >> reporter: the insurance institute insists the cameras are having an impact, especially in this age of dangerous distracted driving. >> we are bringing people's attention back to the road at one of the most dangerous parts of their drive, when they are crossing an intersection. >> reporter: for "cbs this morning: saturday," carter evans, los angeles. it's about seven after the hour. now a look at the weather for your weekend.
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with matt damon that made him an action thriller icon. >> smaller independent films don't get much hype and even the very best can fly under the radar for move-goers. here is fandango managing editor erik davis. let's start off with "the witch." >> super creepy horrible. it came out earlier this year. i think audiences wanted it to be a little more witchy. it's called "the witch." not a lot of the witch in it. critics love this because of its period settings 1600's new england. it really dialogued, the costumes are authentic in that way and story of a family who ditches their community and they got kicked out and battled to the woods and about a family that is torn apart. is it because of the witch or because they are going insane? that is the fun of it and audiences wanted it to be more witchy but check it out on
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blu-ray. >> a little boy has special powers. he is on the run from these various groups that want to exploit his power. throwback vibes in the stories they told in the '80s. a netflix series called "stranger things." and blowing up and series of the summer. i think this is going to find a new audience for people that are binging on this show. if stranger things is your jam and you know who you are, seek this out. >> tell us about a movie called "sing street." i was surprised. it has such good reviews and amazing sound track but like no one got it. >> i have such a crush on this movie. not only one of my favorite movies of the year. i think it has the best sound track of the year. >> about a teenage rock band? >> irish movie about a teenage rock band and a boy form this band to woo the girl of his dreams. i feel like they should have
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moved into the music a little bit more. if you go to music and find a music video called "drive it while you stole it." >> this is once, begin again. john carney is great with music and original tunes feel they were sprired inspired by the '8 the band follows. next, richard linkletter was on this show talking about this film and is a spiritual follow-up to "dazed and confused." but it didn't catch on either. >> i feel "dazed and confused" became a classic. same thing with "everybody wants some." this takes place before college begins in 1980. great jokes and remind me of an
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"animal house." >> "nice guy" what about it? >> biggest stars of the movies on this list it's a great from the master of buddy cop caper shane black who did "the last boy scout." and "long kiss good night." it takes place in the '70s. it came up against "captain america's civil war." and "neighbors 2." but i think it couldn't find a good audience. find "the nice guy" still playing in theaters. >> "the lobster." >> odd is a right word. takes place in a future society if you don't find your mate you get turned into an animal. this is not your meat and potatoes kind of movie but you'll know within the first 10, 15 minutes if it's your thang if it is your thing i think you'll find it rewarding. >> rachel weiss is in this
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movie? >> yes. i think it has a certain kind of humor you have to see if it's your thing. >> swiss arm man." cerebral, strange, absurd. daniel ratcliffe plays a dead body. i think you'll know in the first ten minutes if this is your thing. if you can surf this movie's vibe all the way i think you'll find a beautiful and fulfilling movie about a man falling in love with his own loneliness. but everybody else may just be like this movie is too weird. >> finally, a do you meanry called "holy hell." >> this is an inspiring filmmaker. he got roped up into this cult in i '80s and he intermediate all of the stuff that happened to him inside this cult and it gets creepier and creepier as it goes on. it speaks to a couple of documentaries this year. you get inside access to this world you've never seen from the
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inside, only from the outside. this is another one we see inside this cult and this guy is weird. it's like very hippie deepy and goes down a creepy path and probably make you not want to join a cult. >> i love when you come to do this. thank you, erik davis. up next, tiny re-creations are fun to kid but can be elegant works of art and they have been around for centuries. this is "cbs this morning: saturday." >> announcer: this portion sponsored by tums. fights heartburn fast. ith relief so smooth and fast. tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. tum-tum-tum-tum-tums smoothies, only from tums.
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so who knows what you're going to end up buying if you're tipsy. one time i had a drink and i went to costco and thought it was the most comfortable pillow i had ever put my head on. it was a snow tire. >> drinking and shopping is a thing across the country and retailers are catching on fast. the latest buzz inducing trend in the industry is put fully stocked bars in storms. >> here are a list of those who have brought bar areas and restaurants in their retail stories. jill slchlesinger is here with more. >> who knows what we would have purchased had we done that.
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>> reporter: is this a dangerous thing, booze and shopping? >> listen. the old financial planner in me says this is a terrible idea! because, obviously, you're somewhat less inhibited and you may not be keeping track of your money. and there is some sense that, in fact, that we are trying to draw people from the online world into these stores. why? because you drink and maybe you would even spend more! >> when i look at these images, it looks like it's a separate floor. it's not on the shopping floor inspe. >> a lot of the stores are having separate space and some may let you bring your drink downstairs. why do they want to do this? it's so fascinating to me. retails have had a tough time. the look over the past year, restaurants and bars have seen an uptick in sales, about a 10% increase. retails only 2% to 4%. maybe they are trying to say, wait a minute, how do we tap into that? >> you eluded to the battle with online retailers and is this about trying to become more of a destination? >> absolutely. i mean, you think about it.
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let's go back to, like, the old mall and the food court. why do they put the food court in? it's a convenience after shopping all day but your destination was shopping. now we see this being flipped on its head. we are saying the destination is to come in and drink and/or maybe eat, and then while you're there, maybe you'll spend some money. again, this is a real ballots to get the people away from the screen. if you look at ecommerce sales they are growing so quickly. we know the bulk of sales occur in stores but the growth is online. it is not actually in the brick and mortar stores. >> how do they know the people in the middle of the night shopping are drunk? i understand if that is how they logically put it in the stores. >> i know this is your favorite stat because you don't buy it. >> i don't know anyone who was done that even though i've seen the stats. >> we won't talk about drunk dialing. there is an amazing survey that found that 78% of americans said they have actually purchased
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something online while drunk. now there is also data that shows that on friday nightses, after midnight, after 1:00, after 2:00, retail sales pop up. that may be because somebody has insomnia or drunk late or get home late. but three-quarters of those are identified i do shopping when i'm a little tipsy. anthony, i'm sure you've bought a little something. >> i wonder how return follows are affected? you go in and say, you got me drunk, i didn't really mean to buy this. >> it could be a class action suit any day. what is fascinating to me really this is a real competitive push to try to get millennials because a certain cool factor. not every brand is able to do this and carry it out but you look at urban out ffitters are saying we don't want you to shop online but come here and have a different experience and have this be a cool factor and when you're here maybe you spend a few buck. >> do you think this is a trend?
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it seems like if i was a regular retailer let's see how they perform with this strategy. >> i think that is exactly right. it has to be the right brand. i'm not suggesting we will have keggers in the middle of kmart aisles any time soon but i'm telling you this is tested especially the brands focused on the millennials. >> you gave people a couple of ideas during this segment. >> this show peaks during the cocktail moment. thank you, jill schlesinger. now here is a look at your weather for the weekend. up next, "the dish." southern born chef kelly fields learned baking and cooking some of the world's best and she has brought a sampling of the best from our popular new orleans
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♪ going back to new orleans is a title of a classic song by one of the big easy's best. dr. john. it's also a fair description of chef kelly fields' live. raised in a low country in south carolina, she took her talent and baking to new orleans and left for cooking school and returned to become a pastry chef only to be driven out by hurricane katrina. >> after years in san francisco, it was back to new orleans. last summer, she became chef and partner of willa jean and a bakery restaurant and head the pastry program for all of their restaurants. we know this is going to be good! chef kelly field, welcome to "the dish." >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> what do you have here? >> summertime in the south so we have a steak with tomato salad and barbecue shrimp and salad
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and crab claws. >> what is that at the end of the table? >> this is a chocolate cake. >> i've been wanting to face plant in that ever since i saw it on the table. >> and this. what are we drinking? >> it's called dirty water. a rum ginger drink made in new orleans. bourbon and green tea. >> when we were introducing you, we had low country south carolina. i thought what sort of food is traditional to that area? >> it's very similar to new orleans. it's a rice-based, a lot of tomatoes and tremendous amounts of seafood is what i grew up on. >> your love of cooking really kind of caught fire on a high school trip to new orleans? is that right? >> yes, yes. absolutely. >> what happened on that trip? >> well, i went to new orleans. >> ha ha! >> i know what you mean! the food is intoxicating. >> it absolutely is. i went to new orleans and fell in love with the city. it has a way of getting in your
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blood. that is unexplainable if you haven't experienced it. then the food, the culture, how all of those things wrapped together. it's home. >> it's interesting. because it seems like i've read that you have said a plate should tell a story. did that start in new orleans when you were thinking about food, a different way to think about it? >> no. i think i was brought up that way. i grew up in charleston on the water and my mother grew most of the produce we ate as children. i would often get in trouble for eating tomatoes off the vine and apples and hiding it. but i think it allowed a sort of stage, a new plate to tell that story. not necessarily a different way of thinking about it. >> you've compared being a pastry chef to being a musician? >> yes. >> explain that. >> pastry is often -- people are extremely fearful of it. i also, as somebody who would love to be able to make a lot of music, am fearful of that. the styles of music and, like,
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improvisational jazz and how the tempo changes and tells a story that eventually comes full circle, like, louis armstrong his entire career is a big circle and i think pastry is exceptionally like that. >> i know initially you thought pastry restaurant. what made you think i should also do some savory issues? >> i always wanted some snacks because i enjoy the balance of sweet and salty. our guests, since the day we opened, have been so supportive and so excited and enthusiastic about what we are doing and they started asking for a little bit more, a little bit more and now we have a full-service restaurant. >> we mentioned it before. you had to, after hurricane katrina, you had to leave. >> i did. >> but you had to come back? >> yes. it's in your blood. just like the first time i went. i lived in san francisco a while after the storm and traveled a
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lot and lived in newlyw zealandd farmed and cooked down there and it called me back. >> you and john besser do a lot with each other. >> for sure. he's been my biggest fan and bigge critic for the past 20 years and made me nothing but better at what i do. >> if you had a chance to have this dinner with somebody present or deceived, who would it be? >> my first response is my grandmother, but it would probably be beyonce. >> for more on kelly fields and this dish, head to our website at cbs this morning.com.
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♪ in this morning's saturday session, a young singer/songwriter who is hailed by "rolling stone" as one of the best of 2016. lucy dacus is 21 and native of richmond, nachlt vachvirginia a from a musical family. her father was a guitarist and her mother was a music teacher. >> her first album was released online this year and drew critical praise and the album has been picked up by matador record. now here is lucy dacus with the single "i don't want to be funny any more." ♪ i don't want to be funny any more ♪ ♪ i don't want to be funny
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any more ♪ lately i've been seeing i heard my friends saying i don't want to be funny any more i got too short skirt maybe i can be the cute one ♪ ♪ is there any a day i need to be the funny one if not then i'll be the biggest fan ♪ ♪ i don't want to be a maybe and i'll buy the clothes and i'll be the best dressed ♪ ♪ yeah, i'll read the books i'll be the smartest ♪
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♪ i'll play guitar and i'll be the one ♪ ♪ try not to laugh i'm serious to be the first one ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i don't want to be funny any more ♪ ♪ yeah, i'll be the gossip and hear it through the grapevine ♪ ♪ pass it on
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she's done with the old times that funny girl doesn't want to smile for anyone ♪ >> don't go away. we will be right back with more music from lucy dacus. you're watching "cbs this morning: saturday." >> announcer: saturday sessions are sponsored by blue buffalo. you love your pets like family, so feed them like family with blue! ♪ (toilet flush) if you need an opioid to manage your chronic pain,
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♪ have a wonderful weekend, everybody. stay cool. >> thank you for watching. we leave you with more music from lucy dacus. this is double maker, double
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ganger. ♪ ♪ it's like i spit on the tv screen she had the body of a beauty queen put on a pedestal ♪ ♪ oh oh never saw a girl that looked like you i wanted to run away from it ♪ ♪ run away a long way she had your eyes
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made for fake smiles and hands full of young to wrap around your finger ♪ ♪ came out of a magazine she grew up as a pretty young thing and swing on the backyard swing daddy told you to stay indoors i can understand how a girl gets to feeling like that too young ♪ ♪ she had the same disease and makes us want to live forever
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and die ♪ ♪ i want to live in a world where i can keep my doors wide open ♪ ♪ because who knows what get in and what get out ♪ ♪ one of these nights i'll sleep with the windows down until that creature is gone there is an evil thing
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wind in my face my eyes ♪ ♪ you taught me about anything that beautiful girl need more attention ♪ ♪
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♪ >> for those of you still with us, we leave you with one more from lucy dacus. ." this is "strange torpedo." ♪ you got yourself a bunch of bad habits i love to see love is a weakness ♪ ♪ it seems to me the way un you understand is not the way it's going to happen ♪ ♪ i look in the eye i don't know what your face looks like you're smoking and i try to tell you something you've not heard before ♪ ♪ you got a bug in your pocket
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you got a bug in your sock ♪ ♪ you got a mind to keep a secret i got to hope one day you'll release it ♪ ♪ every time i try to tell you what i think i think it's wrong that you sit around looking like a toy and you're lost every time i tell you something ♪ ♪ you say you've heard before and you don't listen to me ♪ ♪ oh oh. oh oh you're a strange torpedo strange torpedo strange torpedo on the loose and don't play the fool don't play the fool ♪ ,,,,,,,,
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major delays. the warning from bart, and what you need to know to avoid being late.. if you're catching a flight -- out of s- f-o. plus, overnight... a truck slams into a south bay house. the injuries... and investigation now underway. and, flames eating up parts of monterey county. the efforts underway to stop the wildfire, and the impacts the smoke is having on the bay area. it's just about _ _ on this saturday, july 30th. good morning, i'm maria medina. and i'm julie watts. a busy weekend ahead with lots of changes for bart riders, as well as drivers. roqui theus is joining us this morning to help you navigate the anticiapted weekend traffic. she is the newest addition to our week-day morning team... welcome roqui! (chat - joining us from good day on our sister station... 44 cable 12) but before we get to

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