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"world news." -- now bbc "world news." >> this is bbc "world news." i'm in cairo where hosni mubarak says he won't stand for election in november. he is staying in power for now. there's been an angry reaction from the protesters who gathered again in tahrir square. >> we want to stay forever here. we go to our -- our places. we will stay here forever. >> the united states stays president mubarak has not gone far enough. >> welcome to bbc "world news." coming up later in the program, we look at the voice of the people from a new service from google.
protests are infectious, jordan's king replaced its prime minister. hello. within the past hour, the egyptian president says he won't stand for re-election. lisa is in cairo. >> it is early in the morning in it cairo, 1:00 a.m. this is the start of what is the eighth -- the ninth day of rage. there is even greater rage. the day began with sell brages in tahrir square with protesters believing that victory was just around the corner. president mubarak was about to stand down and be pushed to heave power. but a few hours ago, president
mubarak addressed his nation for the second time since this crisis began. he said as president, his first responsibility was to protect his people. he said he would not stand for re-election in september but for now he was staying in power. to insure an orderly transition. we have this report from our middle east editor, jeremy bowen. >> they want the president to go. in only his second speech since the protests started, mubarak said he would but not until the elections. >> i did not intend to run for another term. i spent enough of my life in the service of the people. he said in his last month as president, he would prepare for a smooth transfer of power. you could see by their reaction that for them it was not enough. the soldiers were hand in hand
as they went through the checks atta her square. more and more, it looked as if theory on the same side. the plan was to put a million people on to the streets. in cairo it was probably in the hundreds of thousands. but more than the numbers, the -- it was who they were. an old soldier with his uniform. supporters of the muslim brotherhood and secular young men who wanted to put it into a party. a lot here, though, didn't feel like that. he was one of the 300 estimated by the u.n. to have been killed in the protests. >> he was like my son. they killed him. they kill our kids. they kill our boys.
>> they played the national anthem and sang it. they were patriotic chants and visit roll lick ones about the president. they called him a zionist and a collaborater with the americans. their message was very clear, he has to go but they weren't sure it was getting through. mubarak is watching this on tv. what do you think he's thinking? >> he's thinking get me this guy, let's put him in prison poffer. let's make sure we abuse his family and neighbors. how did he -- it come about they saying this publicly on tv. everybody got fear inside. it is time now to come out and speak out. >> seven days ago, nobody imagined a gathering like this would be possible. >> president mubarak has lost control of the center of his capital city. he can't tell the army to take these people out because it is
already said that it is here to protect them and that the people's grieve yenses are -- grievianses are legitimate. earlier he was all powerful and now he doesn't have many friends left. >> all kinds of egyptians have come to protest but once again today felt a little more religious. many jeapt egyptians are pius muslims. president mubarak's friends especially the israels think that if they get a free election, the islammists might win it. >> we have a right to elect whom ever we want. i don't think they have good reason to be worried because of that. but the bottom line is that we should have the right to elect whom ever we choose. >> plenty was still arriving in the square as people began to leave. some worrying about the speed of change, predicted that the
president would offer to go. just not immediately. >> he needs to announce, i am going to leave. i am going to leave just please, my people, my children. give me. i'm asking for five more months, you waited 30 years, you could wait five more months. >> do you think people would accept that? >> this is the problem, i don't think the majority of people will accept that. >> in the evening chill, there was still an optimistic glow. they may realize that overthrowing an authtorn arab president is not that easy. jeremy bowen, bbc news, cairo. >> that was two hours ago that the 82-year-old president who ruled his country for nearly 30 years made one of the most important speeches of his life. let's hear a bit of what he said. >> all of them --
finish my duty keeping the peace in egypt. >> speech broadcast in egypt that went right around the world. let's hear the reaction of some egyptians that watched it here. >> 15 years ago it was enough. it is enough. >> if we accept this, you would change a lot in the next few months. so i -- i don't want him anymore. >> we would stay here to -- to -- until he would leave. leave. just leave. >> we hear the protests in the heart of cairo today. it wasn't the only place where people were on the streets. they were demonstrating in the second city of alexandra along the coast. my colleague wyre davies is there. what is the reaction there to the president's announcement? >> the protests -- they have been here in the north of the
country. there's isolated clashes. there's -- it is difficult to verify these, because the curfew is strictly enforced. what i understand after making a couple of calls to locals is there were a couple of isolated clashes between protesters in the main square and mubarak loyalists. the army, the military moved to intervene and to stop the clashes. this is isolated. and the previous situation returned to normal. it is tense in alexandra. there were 7,000 people in the main square. they all marched on the main square as they had done down this cairo. incredible scenes, mr. mubarak being pelted. some with coffins of him. the feeling i got in speaking to young people earlier on, they
like many wanted him to go now and they wouldn't be happy with him staying in power for however long it is. the fact he's remaining in power or trying to remain in power for another nine or 10 months, won't be accepted by many. that's perhaps what has led to these isolated outbreaks of violence in the city center tonight. my understanding is the army has moved in to stop these and as far as i know, things have returned to normal. >> as far as anything is normal again, will be normal again in egypt, it is safe to say that when the sun rises here, that both protesters and army will be back on the streets in that standoff as we see it as well. >> yes. tense situation. the young people i spoke to today said they would be back on the streets and stay away from work and colleges and -- until they achieved their aims. the only aim they want is for mr. murke to resign.
you -- mr. mubarak to resign. we were in ton initialia, that's similar to there, that president did everything he could but resign. he announced the dismissal of his government. he said he wouldn't stand again in recollections -- re-elections. that wasn't enough for them. they continued to protest and demand his resignation. as we saw in tunis, he had to go. i think you know, the egyptians are emboldened by what they saw in tunisia just a couple of weeks ago. they saw the crowd and what the masses achieved there. they're going for the same goal here in egypt. >> wyre davies, our correspondent in alexandra. let's look another what is likely to unfold in the days ahead. will the protesters, the divers movement bringing together all sectors of egyptian society pull together or will some say he
made some concessions, let's work with that. we're joined by the scholar here. tonight some leaders are saying, finally we have a political window, let's work toward elections. others say it is not enough. how do you see the protest movement going thousand? >> certainly there is a debate unfolding in the country about the speech. the speech is still two or three, there's two down, we're waiting for the other one. there's people talking and debating. i'm not sure, the drama will unfold until good friday, the next friday. it will not be a crucifix. it'll be probably a friday, beyond the friday of prayer that was last week, will have
probably greater friday. we're looking at the situation where the opposition are delivering the increased from -- 10,000 to 30,000 to the million man march. the next friday is bigger. i estimate. >> do you think more people will come out? >> i think more people will come out next friday. they feel the way the president sounded, he's taking a pain from tunisia's book. it is one drop at a time but not leaving gracefully. the situation as it is, i think somebody has to really settle it. but it would not be settled before friday. >> now there's been this committee of 10 that has been formed. political leaders, a country that has no democracy for decades. a representative of the muslim brotherhood, elbaradei and the representation of women. what will they say? we follow the streets or will they move forward with the
dialogue that president mubarak has offered. >> these people, both the president and the opposition, they have amazing suspicions about each other. the people in the street have been through those 30 years of oppression. they're very herey -- if he's -- he stays on. they don't know, he might come with some serious event, so i don't know if they will leave the streets. they been with him all of these years. they know him very well. he knows them very well. it is a test of will. he's testing their patience. can they go the long haul? can they keep being on the streets. the one factor here is can the army be on the street? which is really not their job to keep people safe and direct traffic. these a fighters. they want to go back to their baracks. at some point, they have to decide, we had enough. >> when president mubarak took the decision he did to announce
to his people that he would stay on, would he have consulted the army? can we assume that the army is saying, yes, this is the best way forward? >> i think probably part of the speech looked like it is written by the army, that indeed, here is my commitment. it is going to be the end of my career as president, with this term. probably my family would not be running and all of the above. and this is probably the -- at his insistence at the army. will that be enough? i think egypt moved from the enough movement, the start movement to the not enough movement. there's something that will take egypt out of it. something serious. the idea of 10 chosen men to talk to the president is also a very suspicious scon assistant. people do not believe it. the opposition do not have what it takes to carry the society with them, those 10 leaders and also the president does not have
enough -- actually to settle a deal. >> so this is where egypt is poised. thank you very much for joining us. the decides of defining moment for egypt. he mentioned the "enough" movement. several years ago, this was at the forefront of politics, as far as any government. few dared to say enough is enough. tonight they're saying, it is not enough. a short time ago i was speaking to george who was the leader of the movement and i asked him for his reaction to president mubarak's announcement. >> i think we are very disappointed. we're very angry about what happened today. because we don't suspect this -- what happened today. we -- we have very clear demand and he deny everything -- we demand. no, sir nice. >> he'll soon his --
>> not nice. >> he will soon end his presidency. >> i think he has to go now. the street is high anxiety. no way. i'm feared now for what will happen in the future. >> what do you think will happen? >> i think that the people will be very angry. we -- we -- the people, i am -- i care about my country. this way of thinking, it'll destroy our country. i'm very vord. >> he said that -- i'm very worried. >> he said his goal was to keep the peace and that was his duty. >> egypt now, it is not like before the 25th of january. we have to think another thinking. we have to change our vision to -- to let our country safe. because we're very worried now. >> if he -- if a real process starts involving the parliament changing the constitution, backed by the army, could this work? is this a matter of months?
>> my dear, the department is not -- is not fair -- the department is false. we don't use this because we have many locations about this government. we don't trust this. there are many locations in the court. we have to -- to cancel this government. we don't like to go this government because this parliament is not fair. it is false parliament. >> the dialogue that president mubarak wanted? >> we say we never go in -- in this -- in the discussion, in the negotiation with the -- with the -- with the man which -- that came after him before he go away. all of the opposition movement takes this decision. no way. >> talking about his deep disappointment and his deep worry about the future. it is past 1:00 a.m. in the
morning here in cairo and the city is still silent. a short time ago i heard the wailing of an ambulance siren and gunfire if the distance. for the first night since the days of rage began on january the 25th, we could hear actually the sounds of the protests in tahrir square in central cairo, just in the distance behind us. we know they have a new sound system but today the crowds were also the largest they have ever been since people first took to that square, making history in their country. but despite the loudness of their voice and the clarity of the message, president mubarak, a little more than two hours ago said, i'm still staying on. i'm your president. my duty city is -- my duty is to stay. today, another week of protests. where is egypt heading in the standoff between the people and the army on the street and the
people and the president they say they want to go. stay with us on bbc news. we'll continue to provide our extensive coverage of all of the dramatic developments, not just in egypt but across the middle east. saying good-bye for now. >> leeching them in cairo. a quick heads up. we're going to hear a statement from president obama. could be any time. we understand it is going to be some time fairly shortly. we understand president obama spoke to mubarak for about 30 minutes. that's according to the news agency a.f.c. we don't know yet until that press conference what was said. we may never know exactly. some guidance on it. possibly. one white house official has been talking to a state department correspondent and the gist of that was that president mubarak's spoach was too little too late. the quote and i say this is unnamed source, it would have been fine if he made the speech
a week ago. the protests started in ton nishia are shaking egypt and they reached jordan. he has dismissed his cabinet and pointed a new prime minister. the new prime minister has been charged with carrying out political reforms. the islammist movement says it does not welcome his appointment. the bbc's matthew price is in the capt of jordan. >> for weeks they have been protesting on the streets and calling for a number of things, primarily for the prime minister to go. they want political reform and they want -- they want the country's high levels of unmoment and poverty to be urgently addressed. now king abdoulah has accepted the first of the demands. he removed the prime minister and appointed another prime minister in his place. some opposition members have
said, there should be time to see if that prime minister can do the job. however, the islammist members of the opposition say they will not accept the new prime minister. they pledged to continue with their gathers -- gatherings, their protests, the next of which is scheduled to happen on weapons afternoon. it has to be stress -- on wednesday afternoon. it has to be stressed, they're nothing like on the scale of what we're seeing in egypt. the demonstrations of maximum numbered have been several thousand. there's potential for them to grow in number. there's a large number of impoverished people in the country that are getting increasingly concerned about their dire economic state. the islammist movement could be swelled if you like, by -- by some of those people. it is a gem fear among some, i was speaking a few hours ago to
a -- a member of the inner circle of the lake king hussein. he said it was possible that the protests could get bigger because of that. he doesn't believe jordan is going to go in the same way as egypt. he doesn't believe that the king will be overthrown. in fact the opposition made it clear that the king is not their target. in that sense, jordan looks stable. however, a word of warning -- from that member of the late king hussein's inner circle, he fears aer mo general destabilization of the arab world and countries like jordan if the mubarak transition is not handled correctly. >> tunisia was inspiration for much of this. in egypt much started for one facebook page started by a youth group. they were using social network sites to coordinate the demonstrations. the internet and egypt has been cut off for the last four days.
they haven't been able to access the social network site. unless they have blackberries. they seem to still work. people in egypt will be able to use twitter. here's the details. >> in many ways, it is a very old-fashioned revolution, thousands of people taking to the streets to defy their rulers. it has a modern twist. egyptians seeing what happened in tunisia use all sorts of modern tools. as they rally support and get the message to the outside world. facebook played an early role in organizing protests. mobile phones have been used to communicate and to film scenes which might not appear on domestic television. twitter has also been a medium which some egyptians have turned to in order to find out what is happening and express their views. the authorities first reaction though was to take egypt out of the high-tech age.
here's what happened to internet traffic last week when the tap was sub suddenly turned off. >> with the egyptian authorities moved to shut down connections to the internet and mobile phone network, technology firms decided to come up with mething different to help people get the message out of egypt. twitter and google worked together to provide a service where egyptians could call two international phone numbers, leave a message and see it translated on twitter. >> we're seeing hundreds of people use this se service to heave messages, from reaching out to loved ones, to messages that have more to do with the unrest that is happening in the streets of cairo right now. >> this facebook page, once a place for bland information is now full of videos and images of the protests. it is where many already shared their personal lives on social nearks has found it natural --
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