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>> and now, "bbc world news." >> this is "bbc world news." the death toll rises and syria. thousands poured across the border to escape the crackdown that showns -- shows no sign of easing. >> while people continue to demonstrate, president assad is not winning. >> afghanistan's president arrives in pakistan but a warm welcome glosses over a troubled relationship. giving the children of africa a fighting chance. in the poorest countries, all it takes is a single vaccine. the richest countries foot the bill?
it is not easy to get a clear picture of what is happening inside of syria today because foreign journalists are banned. security forces are cracking down on demonstrators with growing ferocity. dozens of protesters have been killed. thousands of people have fled into turkey. they bring with them tales of fear and repression. the middle east editor is there and he filed this report. >> and apprehensive group of syrians, some waving olive branches approach the border with turkey. the turks have an observation post in the valley. they say this could be the start of a bigger exodus. here, you get ripples from storms on the other side of the hill. for this is less than half an hour away from where these people came from.
some of the wounded have been taken to this hospital and kept away from journalists. the bbc managed to get into seamen worried about reprisals at home but happy to talk. two said they were shot in peaceful demonstrations. another said he was hurt when the syrian soldiers opened fire on a funeral. >> bullets were coming like rain. >> this is video of syrian soldiers moving to restore order at the request of local people, according to the regime. it was another bloody friday. videos showed demonstrators marching across syria. they attempt to do this by force is not working, but they're trying. this man had to beg for his life. and this, the soldier says, is for freedom. and this is for wanting to
change the regime. it is not clear when the pictures were taken but the people photographed are syrians loyal to president assad. they deny it the regime's version that they are fighting armed insurgents. the regime says the security men who were killed there were killed by armed groups, fanatics, radical islamists and insurgents. is that true? >> no, the dead were security forces to not obey orders to attack the people. they were shot by the secret police. >> the turks are building a third camp. this man says that his arm had a bullet wound. >> we had to shout. the turkish prime minister
switched from soft peddling to call it savagery. the police were trying to stop refugees from telling journalists about it. the turks are nervous about what is happening and so are the neighbors because trouble in syria means trouble in the region. the president is using force and spreading fear. while people continue to demonstrate, he is not winning. a rumor went around that his brother had resigned. it has not been confirmed. the pressure is increasing. >> the international pressure is building on syria and as we just heard, unrest can cause trouble beyond its borders. what can the international community actually do about the events there? >> it is not easy for the west to know what is doing --
what it will do about syria. ripples spread throughout the whole region. at first, two months ago, outside criticism was muted even though protesters were clearly being fired upon. this week, the language was hard and. "the slaughter of innocent lives in syria should be a problem and a concern for everyone. whether president assad has legitimacy to govern in his own country after this kind of slaughter i think is a question that everyone needs to consider. >> do not expect another international intervention even if some of these protesters want it. there is no arab support and no appetite in nato. alliance described as a dwindling military power over burdened by afghanistan and libya. getting rid of president assad might not change much.
he has an interest of all around him, including his brother-in- law, and his younger brother who was seen as the real mastermind of the crackdown. the biggest concern is that if syria unravels, chaos to spread across a region already riddled with tension. tiny lebanon is always vulnerable to its larger neighbor. to the east, iraq could get sucked into any turmoil. >> this is a no-win situation for western countries. they have not been asked to intervene, they do not want to. there is no inherent opposition in syria. >> meanwhile, while families streamed into turkey to escape what they say is mutiny and mayhem, the government in damascus is denying any crisis. the spokeswoman had this
explanation for the refugees. >> many of them find it easy to move across because their relatives are there. this is like having a problem in your street and your mother lives in the next one, so you go visit your mother for a bid. >> a bizarre explanation for a situation that might be slipping out of control. the u.n. is split with russia and china blocking any tough action even if the west had any stomach for it. >> joining me to discuss the crackdown is the director of the middle east that this program at fordham university. do you agree with the analysis at that report, that there is a no-win situation for the west and it comes to syria? >> it does seem difficult in light of what is going on in terms of military action, to be sure. diplomatic action is possible. you might have noticed that
there were signs in chinese by protesters in damascus criticizing the chinese for not taking a more positive role in the security council. i think to the extent that this continues and the bloodshed continues, i think there will be pressure to at least have some common voice that protests against what is going on. >> what do you think that a common voice is enough to get a sought out of power or to change what he is doing? >> it will provide the kind of diplomatic legitimacy where an actor like turkey, which is a crucial factor in all of this. you heard the statements made by the prime minister as he is taking a harder and harder position against the syrians. it is assumed that he will gain an overwhelming electoral victory. he is most capable of using
political and domestic and possibly military pressure. i think that these events as they continue will build pressure and there will be some action. >> what about the chances of pressure from within a sought's on security forces? we saw that in tunisia when troops refused to fire on the civilian population. is any indication that that will happen? >> the regime has committed itself in the way it did back in 1982 where over 10,000 people were slaughtered. i do not see that this will happen anytime soon but i think that the pressures that might encircle syria.
i do not see the internal division that happened in tunisia or egypt for example, take place in syria. >> how optimistic that within the next few weeks we might see some resolution to what is happening in syria and an end to the bloodshed? >> hard to be optimistic given the nature of this regime and the manner in which it has maintained power. there has never been any evidence that they are willing to give power given to minority status of its the regime itself. they are viewing themselves that if they go, the whole community might go. the regime is the standard bearer for minorities that feels encircled by the larger sunni majority. i think that this is a bloodshed community.
if they can act in a decisive way, short of military action, apply pressure that has economic consequences. >> thank you so much. across the arabian peninsula in yemen, the protests continue with tens of thousands to the street. supporters and critics continued to press their demands with competing rallies. in brussels, the outgoing u.s. defense secretary issued a blunt warning to nato pointing to both libya and afghanistan as places where the group is not shouldering their mission. >> indeed, if current trends and the decline of european defense capabilities are not halted and reversed, future u.s. political
leaders, those for whom the cold war was not informed of experience that it was for me, may not consider the return on america's investment in nato worth the cost. >> the defense secretary's comments come after a visit to afghanistan earlier this week and right now the afghan president is in pakistan for a two-day meeting with his counterpart. this is the first visit to the neighboring countries since the u.s. raid that killed osama bin laden on pakistani soil. the current cia chief and president of thomas take to replace -- at president obama's picked to replace the current defense chief is in afghanistan. -- the current defense chief is in pakistan. what was the mood like?
>> probably tense. since january, the outstanding issue between the u.s. and pakistan was all intelligence related. the agencies have been locking horns over u.s. operations in pakistan, especially the killing of bin laden. they would like to see eye to eye with the cia. >> are the pakistani starting to feel that america understand concerns about bin laden killed by an american mission on their soil without the pakistani government realize it? >> sending them panetta to pakistan is the beginning to understand in but they want much clear rules of operation for cia and pakistan. the operations on the ground, having american spies on the ground, doing surveillance recruitment. they want to make sure that we are not running around like we did with bin laden. >> the relationship has been
described as complicated. i would say it is putting it pretty lightly. will the afghan and pakistani president be discussing the solutions and will the taliban have to be brought into the fold? >> that is the only thing that's -- president karzai knows he cannot sit at the table and reach an agreement without the pakistani government buying into it. he needs to create an understanding that there is a way forward. the u.s. might withdraw fairly soon and before you know it, the u.s. would be out of afghanistan and the current strategy is not working. they're trying to come up with a plan which would bring the taliban to the table. >> this pakistan have the same interest in destabilizing pakistan and helping the
extremist that had over the last decade? >> of the plainfield has altered but what karzai is hoping to convince the pakistan is is that if they deal with him, then they don't need to destabilize him. if they can reach an agreement, pakistan has an incentive to sit at the table rather than trying to destabilize karzai. >> are you optimistic of the chances of a political settlement that has the backing of pakistan and can really work? >> not in the short term. this tension between the u.s. and pakistan does not bode well for this process. diplomacy requires patience. these countries have not been in good terms for over a decade. there are only beginning to talk to one another. >> i will debut in when you are
feeling more optimistic. >> german health officials have confirmed that locally grown been sprouts are the source of the equal an outbreak that killed more than 30 people and made thousands ill. the national disease control centers as people who ate the sprouts were nine times more likely to have fallen sick and those that had not. the advice not to eat tomatoes and cucumbers has been lifted. a group has claimed responsibility for the attack which killed a somali interior minister. the girl to carry out the attack in his home was the minister's niece. she had visited the home several times in several so the guards did not carry out the necessary security checks. uncovered a piece of history, below a world war one battlefield. the series of tunnels provides a unique link to the past.
toyota is warning of a sharp fall in its annual profits. they said that profits will drop by about 1/3 to three and a half billion dollars. the company is struggling to production. >> toyota issued the forecast in may but it waited to see how badly they would be affected by the earthquake and tsunami. they said that the aftershocks will be felt for a long time. the crisis means getting supplies and power has been made a problem. the company had to slow output and temporarily shut down plants. production is not expected to get back to normal. japanese carmakers have been asked to cut their a electricity use by 15% over the summer. toyota was having problems before this including the japanese currency which is trading at about 80 yen to the
dollar. >> toyota has been struggling with the strong yen which they see as based overseas and a lot of the cars are sold overseas and when they try to repatriate profits, they would have to do this as well. >> they're committed to jobs and production in japan. they're getting to the stage for it is impossible for manufacturers to do business. they say these problems will not stop them making investments. >> despite the disaster, we will make no changes to our midterm strategy. investments will very actively and strategically. >> toyota it is the world's biggest carmaker. that is not expected to last for long. it could split of wind tunnel motors and even volkswagen this year.
immunizing children against diseases one of the most pressing issues in the developing world. richer nations are being asked to do more. and faxing conference in london will as donations to conduct $3.7 billion to develop new vaccines and improve the distribution of existing ones. we have a report from sierra leone, one of the poorest countries in the world. >> sierra leone is a beautiful country with an ugly record on child survival. until a few years ago, one and four children never made it to the age of five. now, nearly a decade after the brutal civil war, child health is finally taking center stage. you can see it at any health clinic where mothers get in line
patiently to have their children protected with the latest vaccines. >> child of mortality is among the highest in the world. things are improving. immunization is one of the reasons why these children have a better chance of leading a healthy and productive life. in january, a vaccine was introduced against pneumonia, one of the biggest killers in the developing world. other countries want the job but that depends on whether aid agencies get more money. go to any village and you can see the potential that has to save lives. this woman has lost two children to pneumonia. i am worried about my three surviving children, she said. no wonder that the baby is having oliver vaccines against polio -- having all of her vaccine against polio and other
diseases. there is no free health care and sierra leone. there is no vaccine against poverty or amount attrition, many are here simply because they missed out on basic vaccines against diseases which are preventable. -- there is no vaccine against poverty or malnutrition. >> giving b immunization is cheaper than treating the disease. there will be less people coming to the hospital. there will be a lot less need for the staff. there will be a less need for the hospital beds. there will be less of a need for drugs. >> diabetes -- diarrhea is a major problem. there is a vaccine for this and this is not available in sierra leone and poor countries. the u.n. goal of cutting child mortality by two-thirds by 2015 is in jeopardy. >> 1.7 million kids on the planet die every year from
diseases that are preventable. if we do not get the money that we need in order to roll out immunization across the planet in poor countries, we are unlikely to achieve that millennium development goal. >> getting vaccines every child on the planet needs requires effort, imagination, and political will. in times of austerity, governments have to think hard before they pledge money. aid agencies say it would save and transformed the lives of the millions of children. >> simple economics and a big help results. when i learned the history of the first world war, one name stood out for all of the taller -- this was one of the largest and that is battles of the great war. now the resting place for thousands of soldiers is being explored by archaeologist who are estimating tunnels beneath the battlefield and recovering bodies still buried there.
for >> the landscape has been softened by the passage of the years and yet it cannot hide all of its secrets. these flags now marked the frontlines sometimes less than 100 yards apart where men of the scots, the royal scots, were swallowed up by the savage battle in the area known as the glory hole. today's technology has begun looking beneath the disturbed ground for signs of the trenches were soldiers sheltered and died. >> we know that when estivate, we will find things but the war was about men and flesh and blood. >> is it likely that any of those live here? >> this man certainly does. very close to here, 80 feet down, this man still is there. this is a tiny fraction of those men that came through here. >> are around the glory hole,
explosions and artillery fire tore up the ground, and yet the german defenses held. this led to the heaviest losses sustained. the villagers have always known that tunnels crisscrossed their farmland. miners and engineers burrowing deep to explosives. now, for the first time, others will retrace those journeys. >> the other thing i have found is another piece of graffiti from 1916, a soldier from the border regiment. >> earlier exploration is recovering traces of the men who disappeared. in tunnels, where miners trembled beneath the thunder of the guns, a desperate palm on the top. >> with on the place you are detained, do not look around or remain. >> the man who wrote this is in
the mouth of hell. >> this is only the beginning and for the coming months and years, this unique investigation will uncover more and more. stories. >> a deadly battle. finally, we have some spectacular pictures from hawaii where scientists are keeping a close eye on rising>> hello and welcome. -- rising lava levels. the lake is believed to have formed in the later part of 2009. now there are concerns that the lava could overflow. you can find the latest developments on our website. for all of us here, thank you so much for watching. have a great weekend.
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