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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> ifill: good evening, i'm gwen ifill. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. >> ifill: on the newshour tonight, donald trump defends his record on women, as hillary clinton wades into the fray. surveying the week ahead in politics. >> woodruff: then, protests and a state of emergency again in st. louis and ferguson, missouri. >> ifill: a pious nation resists family planning efforts to address poverty. political push back to providing free contraceptives in the philippines. >> woodruff: plus, a doctor recounts his struggle for survival after contracting ebola. >> everybody was afraid we're all going to get ebola and die. in west africa, the fear
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presented itself as denial that ebola was even real. >> ifill: all that and more on tonight's pbs newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: ♪ ♪ moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. >> and the william and flora hewlett foundation, helping people build immeasurably better lives.
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>> and with the ongoing support of these institutions and individuals. >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: this was a day of bombings and bloodshed in three major countries across the muslim world. in iraq, islamic state suicide bombers killed nearly 60 people and wounded more 100 others. the attackers struck after nightfall in diyala province, just over 30 miles northeast of baghdad. >> ifill: and in afghanistan, taliban suicide bombers struck again, killing at least five people and wounding 16 outside kabul's international airport. the blast at a busy roundabout followed friday's attacks that
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killed nearly 50. and, the afghan president demanded a crackdown today on taliban elements based in neighboring pakistan. >> ( translated ): if pakistan does not have the capacity to bring them to the table, they have this capacity to stop their activities, to close their offices, to bring the insurgents to justice and to not allow their wounded to be treated in the hospital. >> ifill: president ghani also spoke by phone with secretary of state john kerry to express his concern. >> woodruff: the u.s. consulate in istanbul, turkey came under fire today as attacks rocked that country. investigators said two women belonging to a far-left radical group shot at the consulate. witnesses said police wounded one of the attackers after she refused to surrender. >> ( translated ): it was about 6:30 in the morning. we heard the sound of gunfire. the woman and the police officer
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started clashing. i guess the woman was an amateur because she had dropped her ammunition clip. she was throwing what looked like stones. the officer shouted at her once or two times "lay down, lay down." >> woodruff: no one else was hurt there, but three militants and two policemen died in a car bombing and gun battle at a police station in istanbul. elsewhere, a roadside bomb killed four turkish police officers. it all came amid a government crackdown on islamic state, kurdish elements and far-left militants. >> ifill: migrants fleeing conflict in syria and afghanistan arrived by the hundreds in greece this weekend. coast guard vessels rescued more than 1,400 people in dozens of operations. meanwhile, a policeman on kos island pulled a knife, and struck migrants as tempers flared in a crowd waiting for immigration papers. >> woodruff: back in this country, the governor of colorado declared a disaster today, after a major toxic spill. this as word came that the
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disaster is far worse than it first appeared. the environmental protection agency has now confirmed the spill totals 3 million gallons, three times larger than initially estimated. the mix of heavy metals, including arsenic and lead, has transformed the animas river into mustard-colored soup. >> it's definitely not how the river is supposed to look. it's already hard enough to catch fish in the animas, you know this stuff it's definitely not good for them. it's gonna kill a lot of the fish off. >> woodruff: it started wednesday when an e.p.a. team accidentally released contaminated water from the abandoned "gold king mine" north of silverton, colorado. it spewed into the animas and headed downstream. the tainted torrent has now traveled south more than 100 miles, flowing into new mexico, where the animas meets the san juan river. new mexico's governor, susana martinez, got an aerial view of the contamination, yesterday, in farmington.
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>> the magnitude of it, you can't even describe it. it's like when i flew over the fires, you see something your mind isn't ready or adjusted to see. >> woodruff: the e.p.a. says it does not expect a major effect on wildlife. and, because utilities closed their intake valves, there's no sign that drinking water has been contaminated. still, homeowners like rosemary hart are frustrated. >> i'm here on my property and i cannot shower. i cannot cook. i cannot do anything with the water from my water well. >> woodruff: adding to the frustration: it took the e.p.a. a full day to notify communities of the spill. now, the yellow flow is heading west toward lake powell in utah, a popular tourist destination, and e.p.a. officials have yet to indicate how long clean-up will take. the agency has offered free water testing for some domestic wells along the course of the spill.
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>> ifill: investor magnate warren buffett announced his company's biggest deal ever today. berkshire hathaway will buy precision castparts, an aerospace and industrial company, for $37 billion. that news, plus a rise in oil prices, sent wall street surging. the dow jones industrial average gained more than 240 points to close above 17,600. the nasdaq rose 58 points, and the s&p 500 added 26. >> woodruff: google will become part of a new holding company known as alphabet. the search giant unveiled the change in operating structure after the markets closed. the switch will take place later this year, and google's stock will automatically be converted to alphabet stock. still to come on the newshour: the week ahead in politics with tamara keith and susan page. protests and a state of emergency called again in ferguson. plus, much more.
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>> ifill: donald trump continues to consume the post-debate debate, hillary clinton lashes out at the republicans, and bernie sanders draws huge west coast crowds. you may have heard: trump sparked an uproar when he described fox news moderator megan kelly as having "blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever. "she was," he said, "in my opinion, she was off base." the next day he said he meant blood coming out of her "nose." today, hillary clinton, campaigning in new hampshire, said trump was outrageous, but that republicans who oppose all abortions were just as bad.
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>> while what donald trump said about megyn kelly is outrageous, what the rest of the republicans are saying about all women is also outrageous. they brag about flashing women's healthcare funding. they say they would force women who have been raped to carry their rapist's child. >> woodruff: sounds like appropriate time a perfect time for politics monday. we're joined from new hampshire tonight by tamara keith of npr and here in the studio, by susan page of "usa today." camera, you were in new hampshire covering hillary clinton today. tell us a little bit about this broad idea of women's issues. so far we're talking about the slur donald trump did or did not intend, abortion, but women's issues, it seems to me, especially when it comes to an unknown candidate like donald trump is much broader than that. >> certainly, and donald trump, over the weekend, said that he's huge on women's issues. it's not entirely clear what that means. trump, before who was pro-life
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was pro-choice and, of course, that's one of many issues where there are lots of substantive questions that could be asked to the candidate, but, typically, he spends a lot of time feuding, instead. >> ifill: has the clinton campaign decided this is an opportunity for them? >> oh, absolutely. hillary clinton was having a lot of fun in that media availability today. you also got the sense she would have been perfectly happy if someone, anyone, had asked her a detailed policy question about her college affordability plan, which is what she was there for. but, clearly, clinton is using this to go after the republican field as a whole, to tie them to donald trump and, also, in particular, today she was talking about marco rubio, the florida senator who many say performed quite well in that debate last week, and she was talking about his position on abortion to not include incest or rape and making the argument that that was the more
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completely position than any of the entertaining things that donald trump said, and she described him as an entertainer. >> ifill: okay, susan, let's talk about donald trump. we have to. he's still leading the polls. he doesn't appeared to have been hurt at all by what happened in the debate or people's interpretations of it, but when we talk about donald trump and we talk about where he stands on issues, we know the things he says, what does he believe when it comes to these issues? >> not a conventional candidate and not someone who ever served in office, so there's no voting record we can look at athose who've served. if you go to his web site as i did just before we came on board, there are ways to buy t-shirts with trump's name, a lot of news stories posted about how well he's doing in the polls, you can contribute to his campaign burks not even a tab that takes you to the policy positions on issues, nothing that explains where he is on education, healthcare, jobs or terrorism.
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these are all issues women care about as do men. >> ifill: when we talk about women's issues, we're also talking healthcare and education and college affordability. but we've heard nothing from him on any of that. >> for his core supporters, it doesn't matter, they're endorsing an attitude that has served him well so far. but if he wants to grow his support and become somebody who is actually taken seriously as a poterntionle nominee, he's going to have to take positions on some of these big issues. >> ifill: how about the other republican candidates, how have they been responding? they obviously are fighting to get themselves heard in all of this. >> any number of candidates said things like, don't you just want to ask me about what i want to do? john kasich being one of them. senator lindsey graham of south carolina came out with another strongly-worded statement saying, come on, let's just ditch this guy, basically, more or less. i think what's going on here,
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what's interesting is that donald trump keeps going from feud to feud to feud. he's said mean things about megyn kelly, then he moved on and said mean things about carly fiorina, one of the other presidential candidates, and he keeps sparking these feuds. it's kind of like rap feuds of the '90s where they're feuding and, actually, the feud gives everybody more publicity. so some candidates are embracing the fight with trump. >> ifill: it's true, i have been finding all this feud over the last week and we have the same thing happening here. there's power in this, isn't there? he was mad at fox news, but now appears he's going to appear on fox news because he made up with roger. not only does he lead in the polls but donald trump is defining the entire conversation, so the other
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nominees, the orthocandidates either try to get in the story, like rand paul criticizing him as not a real conservative or bobby jindal saying his name in his speeches to get attention or marco rubio and john kasich where are desperate to break through on issues they want to talk about and want to avoid to responding to outrageous comments by donald trump. i don't think they've nigd that out because donald trump is right at center stage, like he likes to be. >> ifill: bernie sanders, he was on the west coast swing this week and attracted tens of thousands of people to his rallies in seattle, portland, oregon, on his way to los angeles today. what is the appeal for bernie sanders? why is he getting massive crowds at this time in august, for heaven sakes, and what is hillary clinton's people thinking about this? >> also, he was endorsed today
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by the nurse's union. in l.a., he was picking up a big, national endorsement. so bernie sanders has captured something. he's really captured a desire among many people to fix income inequality. he's talking about college affordability. he has been talking about that for months. he really, in stark terms, spells out the feeling that a lot of people have that it's just harder to get ahead, and that's what he's capturing, and people are showing up to see h him. i can't tell you what portion of the people in those arenas are just there to say, hey, who is this guy and how many of them would go out and say caucus for him in iowa or volunteer for his campaign. it's not clear to me what share is in the people that are showing up. >> ifill: that's the same question that could be asked by donald trump at this stage. but what i'm curious about, susan, is whether the hillary clinton people are worried about it. she was asked about it today and she just said, oh, he's a nice
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colleague. >> there is no reason for hillary clinton to attack bernie sanders. everything she wants to do is get bernie sanders supporters to support her now or later. she's focused on the people she thinks will be her potential opponents. jeb bush and today marco rubio. but, certainly, bernie sanders is underscoring some of the vulnerabilities that hillary clinton has. i don't think the hillary clinton thinks he's going to take the nomination, but when he gets 28,000 people that come tha rally in portland,or? could she get 20,000 people to come there with no organization, no ads, no infrastructure? so i think he's concerning in that way, not so much he takes nomination burks that he shows the kind of energy she has yet to show. >> ifill: you begin to wonder if, at this stage of the campaign, what we're really watching for is the cumulative effect of either the negative or email questions which don't go away, the outrage from trump or even just the crowd building on
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themselves with bernie sanders. >> and we're pretty far away from the election. >> ifill: no, we are? we'll be talking about this for a long time. we're looking about what the baseline and the landscape will be, who has strengths and weaknesses and how they play out and a year from now we'll be talking about these characters. >> ifill: we'll see you next week. tamera keith, susan page. thank you both. >> thank you. >> woodruff: authorities in st. louis county, missouri, imposed a new state of emergency today after police critically wounded an 18-year-old black man overnight. it happened at the end of protests in the town of ferguson, marking the death of michael brown one year ago. police said a late-night demonstration got rowdy, and
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tyrone harris jr., and others opened fire on them. they said officers shot back, wounding harris. the incident drew the attention of u.s. attorney general loretta lynch, who was at a police convention today in pittsburgh. >> i strongly condemn the violence against the community, including police officers, in ferguson last evening. not only does violence obscure any message of peaceful protest, it places the community, as well as the officers who seek to protect it, in harm's way. >> woodruff: there were new protests around ferguson and st. louis today. some 100 people rallied to protest the latest shooting, and several were arrested. i spoke a short time ago with reporter yamiche alcindor, who's covering the story for "usa today."
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welcome. what is is situation now. >> moments ago, several protesters were arrested outside the courthouse building, a lot of them prominent protesters along with cornell west. they're facing federal charges. $125 fine. it won't be anything too serious but this is part of the moral monday people had today where it was a series of civil disobediences they wanted to have in cord gnarring's and memory of myel-- in coordination and memory of michael brown. >> woodruff: this was planned before the violence last night? >> yes, before the violence last night, before the second police-involved shooting, there are people who already planned to have access civil dis obedience. they were thinking after michael
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brown's death hundreds took to the street and demonstrated mostly peacefully. but we remember the quick trip that put the story on the nation's spotlight. they were planning the protests all over the country here in st. louis. there were several acts of disobedience but the one i attended today was at the federal courthouse where several members of the clergy got together and were purposefully arrested. >> woodruff: we know a state of emergency is declared in the area as a result of last night, but take us back to yesterday. this was supposed to be a day, in fact it was a day of peaceful protest in memory of michael brown. but then what happened last night? >> what happened last night is really what happens a lot of times at night in ferguson when things get bad. usually, what happens in ferguson is, when there is violence, what happens is you get to a point in the night where you think, okay, i can go home, the crowd is dispersing, and then last night there was a
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line of police officers, protesters yelling at them, and then after a while it kind of lulled and people were wandering around. i myself was thinking about getting into my car and then we heard a barrage of gunfire. it was the most terrifying moments of my journalistic career. i ducked, ran behind cars. dozens of police officers were cowering behind their cars. it's really dangerous when the police are also running and taking fire. we later learned a young man was shot in the police-involved shooting that police say there was at first a group of two people shooting and then one of the people that were shooting, that man ran away and when police spotted him, he started again firing at the police -- that's what police say -- and then they also returned fire and this young man was shot. >> woodruff: so there clearly seemed to be two sides to the story. the young man's father is saying he was unarmed, police are saying he believed he sot at
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them. that remains to be squared away. one of the st. louis aldermen antonio french, very active in the protest movement, told the reporters there is an active protest group and then there are just some people sitting back and waiting for an opportunity, to in his words, steal stuff and cause trouble. is that what you're seeing? >> i must say that the frequent protesters i've seen, they're well-known faces, not only do they know each other and how to act peaceably and deescalate situations, but they also know police officers and they trust some of the officers and will walk up and say, hey, things are getting out of hand, and i saw an officer mace somebody and didn't think it was appropriate. so protests are really now in some ways friendships with officers. so i think that's a completely different relationship than
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those people -- i don't know if you would call them an taters, but there are -- agitators, people who are not connected with michael brown, but just are there to cause trouble and these are the people protesters don't want to be associated. with last night, chief john belmar said during his press conference that these are criminals, not protesters. that's a really big deal for the protesters who come out and are peaceful for hundreds of days, when you have the police also differentiating that person. >> woodruff: john belmar being the st. louis police chief. based on what you know, what do you expect to happen now? >> i really want to say that i expect people will try to remain as peaceful as possible, that people will really try to see, when they see things escalating, try to alert the police. that's what they did last night.
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i'm really kind of cautious to say what's going to happen tonight because i want to say things will go calmly. even with the peaceful protesters, they don't want to be told when to go home. they're really into protesting and observing their first amendment rights and that's really important to them, so people are really going to be out there tonight. they will be out there late, i imagine have a really long night tonight and to stay out past 5:00 in the morning because that's what people do in ferguson because even when they're protesting peacefully, they don't quit early, they stay out late. so i'm worried about the people that really want to break into businesses, whether or not they will be back tonight, i'm scared they might be back tonight and i think all journalists and people who are there, really can be as cautious as we can be to really prepare ourselves for tonight. >> woodruff: yamiche alcindor, reportert or "usa today."
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we know you will be there if something happens. thank you. >> thank you. >> ifill: stay with us, coming up on the newshour: an american doctor tells the story of his efforts to halt the spread of ebola, and his own fight against the deadly virus. and, how parents who are not religious can teach their children about god and faith. but first, the roll out of a controversial reproductive health law in the philippines long resisted by the catholic church there. special correspondent fred de sam lazaro reports from manila. a version of this story aired on pbs' "religion and ethics newsweekly." >> reporter: it's known as the baby factory. but unlike most factories, the people who run manila's biggest public hospital wish this one was less productive. the staff here at the maternity ward say this is a fairly
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typical, if not slightly quieter than usual day. still, there are 165 new mothers squeezed into 127 beds. about 70 babies are delivered every day. their mothers are treated free of charge. they couldn't afford much anyway, with household incomes of five dollars a day, often less. most, like irene ocampo, who's 19, will tell you their pregnancy was unplanned. >> ( translated ): i didn't know anything about family planning. that's why i had my baby. i would have preferred to start having children at 20 plus, maybe 25. >> reporter: the hospital recently added a new service to help women control when or whether to have more children >> ( translated ): i want to have four years between them. >> reporter: the philippines has begun implementing a law contested for years in parliament and court.
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it requires public health facilities to offer free contraceptive services. they've long been legally available in private clinics, which poor patients like these women could never afford. >> we want that all pregnancies should be wanted and should end in a healthy baby and mother. >> reporter: obstetrician sylvia de la paz has worked these wards for 22 years. in that time, she says, most patients have seen their living conditions go from poor to poorer. >> before, there used to be street children. now you see street families. they sleep in the streets, they have no homes. >> reporter: most disturbing, she says, has been a spike in teen pregnancies: up 50% in the country in the last decade, more than double in this hospital. why do you think that is? >> i think its exposure to early sexual encounters. the age at first coitus is now i
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think 12 to 14 where before it used to 16 to 18. it slid down now. >> ( translated ): i had no idea that adolescents like me could have family planning. >> reporter: angel came to this clinic run by a non profit group to be fitted with a contraceptive implant. like most teenagers who come here, she only learned of this service after becoming pregnant at 14. >> ( translated ): i wanted to finish my studies to become a teacher. becoming pregnant broke my dreams. >> reporter: some proponents of the new reproductive health law say an entire nation's dream has been broken by its failure to control population growth. the philippines has much higher poverty than similar-size neighbors. like thailand, with half the birth rate and twice the gdp of the philippines. dr. esperanza cabral is a former philippine health minister
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we know there is a big correlation between the number of children and poverty incidents. so the less number of children you have, the lesser are your chances that your family is poor. so that is one aspect. and it's not just a family but a country-wide basis. >> reporter: father joel jason is a spokesman for the catholic archdiocese of manila. he argues people are an economic asset. they've been poorly served by their government. >> give people job opportunities, give children education and then you bring them out of poverty. just giving them condoms and contraceptives will not automatically draw them out of poverty. >> reporter: the church has long been a huge influence in this predominantly catholic nation, it's moral teachings imprinted
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not just in liturgy but also in law. the philippine constitution, updated in 1987, says that the state shall equally protect the mother and the unborn from conception and that's the basis of opposition to the reproductive health law. opponents argue that just about all methods of artificial contraception can lead to abortion. despite church opposition, the court upheld most of the new law, directing the country's food and drug administration to approve non abortion-causing contraceptives. but the fight hasn't ended. some opponents plans to go back to court. they argue the methods now approved, like injectables or implants, pills and i.u.d.'s can cause abortion since they make the uterus hostile to implantation, that is: prevent an embryo, which, she argues, is legally protected-from attaching to the womb. maria noche is an attorney with the group alliance for the family. >> all the contraceptives that have been registered right now per our studies are all
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abortifacients. >> reporter: father jason draws a distinction between contraception and family planning, with which the church, he says, has no problem. >> you will not find any single document, present or in the past that the church says women should have as many children as they can possibly bear. >> reporter: in fact pope francis drew worldwide attention after recently visiting the philippines when he said catholics need not breed like rabbits. but the pontiff reiterated that the only acceptable birth control method is natural family planning, where couples abstain from sex on days when the woman is fertile. jason says artificial methods are a symbol of a moral decay. >> why did we invent contraceptives? not because nfp doesn't work, but because we do not want to say no. and that is why we are slowly
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losing our sense of what our sexuality really is all about. >> reporter: back in the hospital maternity ward, blessy padua, a laundry assistant who did not go to high school, says she and her husband did try what she calls the calendar method, without success. >> ( translated ): i am catholic and i am aware the church does not approve of family planning, that god said go and multiply. but at the same time i already have a lot of kids, i had to stop getting pregnant. >> reporter: after delivering her seventh child, 34-year-old padua opted to be sterilized. obstetrician de la paz says for many women here, especially those younger and unmarried, natural family planning is not a good choice or a choice at all. >> a lot of them have challenges with their partners who have issues with alcoholism, no job, inadequate income, so.
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>> reporter: how many are married would you guess? >> majority not. >> reporter: one year since implementation of the new law began, she says most urban women now have access to family planning services. about a third of philippine women still lack such access, most in rural areas of this sprawling archipelago. for the pbs newshour, this is fred de sam lazaro in manila. >> ifill: fred's reporting is a partnership with the under-told stories project at st. mary's university of minnesota. >> woodruff: next, dr. kent brantly, who was airlifted from liberia to the u.s. in august 2014, after he contracted ebola while treating patients as a medical missionary during last year's epidemic in west africa. he and a colleague, nancy
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writebol, who was also infected, were treated with the experimental drug z-mapp at emory university hospital in atlana. both eventually recovered. now dr. brantley and his wife amber have written a book about the experience. he recently sat down with hari sreenivasan in our new york studio. >> it was almost exactly a year ago, after you quarantined yourself, you've got all the symptoms. you've got the vomiting, the diarrhea, the bloodshot eyes, things that you have been seeing in patients and treating and, for the most part, those patients have been dying. what's going through your head? >> before i received my diagnosis, the hane symptoms i had were fever, fatigue, body aches and diarrhea. when the diarrhea started, that was more mounting evidence that this really is probably ebola. but i held on to that hope that it was something else until we
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had the definitive test result. >> sreenivasan: you were the first human to get zmapp. before that, i think it's been as do, maybe 18 monkeys had gotten it. what went through your mind in making that decision to say either yourself or your krieg at the time nancy should take this? >> nancy and i actually talked on the phone. i remember she called me and said, after we had the informed consent discussion with the doctor that was in charge of our care, she said, kent, what are you going to do? because i'll probably do whatever you do. and i said, i think i would be willing to receive it. but, you know, i thought, other wyoming, i'm probably going to -- otherwise, i'm probably going to die, and this may or may not help. but at least i can be a guinea pig and let the world know whether there is any benefit to it or not. >> sreenivasan: once you get the special air ambulance, the state department, lots of people
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working to make this happen, it's a bit cloak and dagger. you're literally taken to the airport at night. before this, there are countries that don't even want you flying over their airspace. >> it did seem like something from a movie. when i got out of what we call the ambulance, the back of a pickup truck, and was being helped on to the airplane, you know, part of me really thought, this is pretty cooed. pretty -- pretty cool. i'm being evacuated on a top-secret jet. i wanted to look around on the airplane, but it took every bit of effort i had just to put one foot in front of the other to get on the plane. >> sreenivasan: let's talk a little bit about your loved ones. while you're in this medically necessary quarantine, your wife and kids were almost in a socially necessary quarantine of sorts. >> they left liberia three days before i got sick and, once my diagnosis was confirmed, they
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were put in a quarantine of sorts. they were monitored by the health department. had to check their temperature several times a day, had to have two people sign off on the temperatures every day. there was a lot of fear surrounding that whole situation in the general public and people weren't sure what to make of a patient with ebola being brought back to the united states, and then the recognition that, oh, there other people who have been in that country who are now walking around in public, and i think that created a lot of fear because of the unknown. >> sreenivasan: you mentioned certain cultural hurdles and obstacles that some of that fear was happening in west africa in a totally different way. >> i think we saw that fear of ebola expressed in different ways in west africa and here. here, everybody was afraid we're all going to get ebola and die. in west africa, the fear kind of presented itself as denial that
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ebola was even real or that a loved one who had all the symptoms of ebola, it must be something else. >> sreenivasan: what role do you think your faith played in all of this? >> that's a hard question for me to answer because i try not to compartmentalize my life into this is my faith life, my work life, my family life. my faith is an integral part of who i am. it's part of the lens through which i view everything in life. so i can't separate this experience from my faith. >> sreenivasan: some people say the difference may not be frat, he's an american. he got the best care of the whole planet. nobody else gets that. not just in liberia, but anywhere else. >> i wouldn't disagree with that statement. i don't think there is anything
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special about my faith that saved my life. if anything, my faith is what put me in a position where i got ebola, and i'm really thankful to the united states government, to the government of high libero to -- to emory university, phoenix air, the state department, all the people who provided me with the treatment i received, i don't say that, oh, it was my faith that saved me, not those people. i believe god used those people to save my life. not because of my great faith. it just is. and, so, i give god the credit for it. but i think all of those people -- but i thank all those people and i -- i love them. >> sreenivasan: would you do this again? >> i would. i would. that is what amber and i feel like. that's the kind of life god has called us to and, in some ways, we're really eager to get back
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to that, to get out of a life where we're doing book tours and stuff and get back to the life of service that we feel called to. >> sreenivasan: dr. kent brantly, the book is called "called for life." thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you, hari. >> ifill: we'll be back with a conversation about how to talk to your children about religion. but first, it's pledge week on pbs. this break allows your public television station to ask for your support. and t
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>> woodruff: now, the latest addition to the newshour bookshelf. raising children is a journey generously sprinkled with what
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many view as teachable moments; perhaps none as challenging as those surrounding faith and religion. author, journalist and newshour online parenting columnist, wendy thomas russell, comes at this from a different angle in her new book, "relax, it's just god: how and why to talk to your kids about religion when you're not religious." she recently talked with jeffrey brown and explained how the book came to be. i was in the car and my daughter announced to me god made her and god had, in fact, made all children and all people. >> brown: and you thought? you know, she was so incredulous because she just thought this seems like really big news, and how you don't know it, mommy, is really beyond me. but it did -- it struck me. i was really caught offguard by it. >> brown: what did you say to her? >> i didn't say much at the time. i kind of stumbled through the
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conversation, you know, who is god? i sort of stumbled through the conversation and later went home and talked to my husband and he said, you know, it's not what maxine believes but what she does in life that matters, and it was a turning point for me, this idea if we raised kids to be moral and ethical and kind and generous, then what they believe is secondary. and it's been a guiding force to the book. >> brown: i want to ask you about the title. there are so many -- for so many people, god and their religion are a basic component of who they are. it's not "just god." and you use that, "relax, it's just god." what do you mean? >> i don't mean to be flippant or insensitive in any way, but it does seem that there are certain topics that are hard for parents to talk about and to broach with their children and, increasingly, religion is becoming a one of them, and in a
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lot of secular families, the word "god" is approaching "sex" as a taboo subject. >> brown: a hard discussion. yes. whawhat i was getting at is it's not such a difficult subjects if you approach it in the right way. so we can all just lighten up. >> brown: you are coming at this as a secular, non-religious parent. >> correct. >> brown: you see a growing need. >> i do. religion will be around for a very long time, but it's true that secularism is on the rise and it's growing rapidly and it's grown in the last 20 years. the problem with a lot of parents in this particular group is that they are trying to raise their kids in this era of transition or this era of change. so let's come up with a way that we can talk to our kids about religion that's completely honest, that values critical thinking, that values religious
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tolerance and literacy and so kids can make up their own minds. >> brown: give me an example of a common dilemma that parents find when it comes to raising their children vis-a-vis religion. >> there are quite a few. i did a survey of a thousand non-religious parents to find out exactly that, and the top reasons cited was people weren't sure how to talk about religion without indoctrinating their kids into what they believed themselves. that was a hard line. the other one was interacting with religious family members and keeping the peace in families when you're raising a child who is in a secular household, how do you bridge the gap between the older generations who may be more rigidly religious? >> brown: the word "indoctrinating" is important because it comes up time and time again. what's the difference between "indoctrinating" and "guiding"
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children? >> indoctrination i see as is antithesis of guidance. it's stronger than just merely guidance. i see indoctrination as telling children there is only one way to believe, and that all other ways and people who believe all other things are less worthy of our respect, less intelligent, less moral. it's that -- that's the crucial issue. i think that when you do that, you set up your child to be bigoted against those who don't believe the way that you do. you know, we are -- it's not a blacblack and white world. >> brown: so give me an example of the most basic question -- your child says, mommy, does god exist and what is god or who is god? >> the way i go about it is to say, that's a great question and i'm glad you're thinking about it, that there are a lot of different ways that people
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describe god and describe what god is and this is what some people believe and this is what other people believe, and i don't believe in god, but that's okay. it's all okay, and you get to make up your own mind about what to believe. >> brown: isn't that kind of mushy? isn'tt the job of a parent to guide -- i'll use the word "guide again "-- their child to say, well, it's not just this or could be this or that or whatever you think goes? >> well, i think within reason, and i see a difference between guiding your child to be a moral person, an ethical person, a self-respecting person, a critical thinker, those are all really important things. guiding them to believe in a certain way, in a certain god or a certain prophet, that is not so important. i really want to folk on what people -- focus on what people do in life and not on what they
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believe because if we can judge people on their actions and not what we think the reasons behind what their actions are, it makes for a more tolerant world and a better world. >> brown: all right. the book is "relax, it's just god." wendy thomas russell. thank you. >> thank you, jeff. >> ifill: on the newshour online right now, it's the season of superhero blockbusters. but is there any chance of turning superhero fantasy into biological reality? we examine the odds of someone developing super-powers. all that and more is on our web site, pbs.org/newshour. and that's the newshour for tonight. on tuesday, we profile an all female unit tracking poachers in south africa. i'm gwen ifill. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. join us online, and again here tomorrow evening. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you and good night.
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