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gwen: hillary clinton's email contrition, donald trump's effort to be taken seriously, and the iran deal inches closer to approval -- the policy and the politics. tonight on "washington week. >> sanctions alone were not getting the job done, not even close. they were failing to slow, let alone halt, iran's relentless march towards a nuclear weapons capability. gwen: the white house rounds up the votes they need to stop congress from killing the iran nuclear deal. >> we're the only country in the world that has the military capability to take out iran's program today, tomorrow, and into the future. gwen: but is the fight over? >> i'm frustrated there's not enough votes to block it today, but as president i will terminate that bad deal on day one.
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gwen:as the it 2016 campaign steams toward labor day, more shoes drop. donald trump pledges to stay a republican. mr. trump: i will be totally pledging my allegiance to the republican party and the conservative principles for which it stands. gwen: and he takes fresh aim at eb bush. mr. bush: yes, they broke the law, but it's not a felony. gwen: as bush aims right back. mr. bush: this is not a guy who is a conservative and using his own words is not a mischaracterizeation. it came out of his own mouth. gwen: carly fiorina likely makes the cut for the next g.o.p. debate. ms. fiorina: i think donald trump and jeb bush are going at it as front runners are going to do in a presidential campaign. gwen: and joe biden is in the speculative spotlight. vice president biden: the most relevant factor in my decision is whether my family and i have the emotional energy to
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run. gwen: the hits keep on oming. covering the week, peter baker chief white house correspondent for "the new york times," jeanne cummings, political editor for "the wall street journal," and karen tumulty, national political correspondent for "the washington post. announcer: award-winning reporting and analysis, covering history as it happens. from our nation's capital, this is "washington week" with gwen ifill. corporate funding for "washington week" is provided by >> how much money do you have in your pocket right now? >> 40. >> $21. >> could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? >> i thonet -- don't think so. >> well, if you start putting that toward retirement and let it grow over time, 20, 30 years, that retirement challenge might not be so big
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after all. announcer: additional funding is provided by newman's open foundation, donating all profit to charity and nourishing the common good. and the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like up. thank you. once once again, live from washington, moderator gwen ifill. gwen: good evening. today, hillary clinton demonstrated just how seriously she is taking the questions that have dogged her campaign since it emerged that she exclusively used a private email service during her time as secretary of state. sitting down with nbc's andrea mitchell, she conceded that her shifting explanations over time may have damaged her credibility. secretary clinton:at the end of the day, i am
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sorry this has been confusing to people have -- and have raised so many questions. but there are answers to these questions, and i take responsibility it wasn't the best choice. gwen: secretary clinton also tested out the message she plans to use to turn that corner. secretary clinton: i want to be the president who talks about -- deals with all those big problems that are in the headlines, but also those problems that keep families up at night. gwen: first, what did we learn new about the email controversy, karen? karen: you know, not really much of anything. incremental stuff, that it was her lawyers who had gone through her e mailts and decide which were personal and which were going to be turned over to the state department. she gave a little bit about the process by which she decided to destroy all of her personal emails but i think the message, which is one that she began give a week ago, she's really pivoted from, you know, this is nothing and being dismissive about it to trying to convey
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that she understands that people are concerned about this. gwen: this now -- number, as you know, on a monthly basis we're getting a new transcript of the emails being released from her server and the ones this week told, i don't know, more about her personality and the way she gets vick, i don't know. karen: well,he ones you can see, many of them being blacked out. but you can see that she would interact on a very familiar level in terms of watching television shorkss a lot of politics in those emails and that mark penn was sending per updates during the 2010 period, this last batch. she got updates from mark penn, sidney blum un -- blum enal. she tried to hire him. the white house blocked -- gwen: remind everyone what --
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who that settlement karen: he was a long-time clinton aide. he was in the white house. but when the white house blocked his involvement, that was a big role in dwisk her guidance. but you do glean out of this that this was expected to be nonconsequential because the things that might be considered to be dicey, they're fighting over now, the state department and intelligence agencies are fighting over what should be classified and shouldn't be the gwen: one thing that's been interesting is hillary clinton, this is only the second or third time she's sat down and had an extensive interview since she's been in the race. and this is as apologetic as she has strivingen to be the
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does this represent external polling? the polls that we're all look at where people are beginning to ask questions about your trustworthiness. karen: well, it's not that she doesn't maintain an absolutely commanding lead over her potential rivals, but we're seeing bernie sanders creeping up on her in iowa. some polls have her ahead in nam -- new hampshire. the real erosion has been in how people regard her, when hey approve of her or consider her trustworthy. these are unforced errors the 9 campaign also realizes that they missed some stunts -- opportunities, back when it was revealed that this private server exitcht -- existed. jeanne: i think also it's the campaign. many of her donors have been shaken by not just what
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happened but the handling be of the political fawout from it all. we know they're inviting individual donors up to brooklyn to talk with robby mook -- gwen: her campaign manager? jeanne: and it's not just her supporters that have been rattled by this. peter: and why else would vice president biden be thinking about jumping in at this late date talk about we that, i want to roll a bit of joe biden last night. there was a q and a about whether he was going to run. the answer was pretty sober. et's listen.
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vice president biden: everybody talks about the factors, whether i can put together the money and the organization. that's not the factor. it's can i do it? my family undertake this? gwen: i've covered politics for a long time and never heard anyone sound so mournful the that does not sound like someone who has the fire in the belly. karen: it also does not sound like joe biden, the joe biden we have seen over decade. but there are people out there who would really like to see him run. speab of the donor community, a in of them are people who gave money to barack obama in the
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last primary race and have been sitting on the sidelines, not showing up for hirg clinton. jeanne: but i think based on our reporting what is happening to hillary is really not influencing where the president -- vice president ends up on this. ultimately he's made clear to his supporters and friends that he thinks he would be the better president. gwen: but could he get elected to be president? jeanne: he does think he can raise the money and find a path. it vl all about himself and i don't believe we're going to -- he said a decision will come in late september. i think he's further away from it than that and it will be even later than that because he's nowhere near a man ready to walk out on that stage. peter: he's at a stage in his life where this is it, the last
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politician decision he's he going to make on whether to run. if he makes the decision i'm not going to run, that's pretty much it and having just gone through this terrible trauma of his son diagram prematurely, he's clearly wrestling with his own mortality, his own political future and the rest of his life. he's got 18 months left in office the gwen: certainly quite remarkable watching someone wrestle with that in public. let's talk about the republican side. the republican front runner, however, appears to have settled on a single message. whether he is asked about iran or the economy or immigration or the kuds force in iraq, the answer is essentially the same -- he is great, and our heads will spin when he is president. a republican president. mr. trump: i will be totally pledging my allegiance to the republican party and the conservative principles for which it stands. i see no circumstances under which i would tear up that pledge. gwen: the pledge in question is a nonbinding promise that trump
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will not run as an independent in 2016. remind us why that was an issue, karen? -- jeanne? jeanne: well, it's the first debate. there were all kinds of rumors in the air that he might run, that he might come out as an independent and kill the party. so fox asked him. or asked all of them, who will not pledge to support the republican nominee and he did indeed raise his hand and at that point it sent shock waves through the party abandon has -- and has been an obsession ever sirnings the worry that he would actually do this. so for him to do, to put it to rest is, for the republicans, a pretty big relief. gwen: did he put it to rest though, karen? this is not a legally binding document karen: it's not legally binding
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and it's contingent on his continuing to believe that the republican party is treating him fairly. gwen: what does that mean? i kept watch -- wanting to watch at the television -- karen: i think watchies -- his twitter feed and you will get moment by moment whether he thinks people are treating him fairly. the bad news is that the republican party is now solidly aligned with donald trump. so this again could -- could -- you know, as much as they want to talk about him like he's some sort of force of nature out there who, when he says something to alienate hispanics that he's not speaking for the party, it's i think a little bit more difficult to do that now. gwen: it is interesting to watch the other candidates wrestle with what to dosm the person most interesting to watch this week was jeb bush. there was even a dispute between the two of them where
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they talked about what language you are allowed to speak on the campaign trail. listen to that exchange. >> here i am a candidate for president of the united states believing that we should campaign con brazos abiertos, with our arms wide open. mr. trump: when you get right down to it, we're a nation that speaks english and i think while we're in this nation we should be speaking english. gwen: the interesting thing, jeb bush speaks incredibly fluent spanish and his wife is a spanish speaker. so what is this really about? is it about some larger issue? jeanne: absolutely. the biggest change this week came from the bush camp. trump has been steadily pummeling jeb bush. the bush campaign had to decide really what are they going to do? if we keep staying where we are and try to make fun of it and
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not responding, we look weak. the other option was go on the attack and rick whatever wrath is going after -- coming at them after that. karen: and jeb bush said he wasn't going to run unless he could do it joyfully. and he is not joyful. there is only one joyful candidate out there, and that's trump. gwen: so what are they going to do about it? we see scott walker sort of shoiching for a place to land. we see carly fiorina saying much more mildly i think but critsigse him for not being ready to be president. karen: she had the best criticism of him in that first debate and that set her apart. she said, did you get your phone call from big clinton to talk about your presidency? i didn't get one you. and of course donald trump did
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endeed get one to talk about his presidential campaign. she's had the meanest and sharpest attack on trump. she just hasn't said it lately. and christie is promising to be more aggressive and he's criticized trump. the one who has stayed under the radar is marco rubio. he has p said anything much at all about trump, and as a consequence, trump has not said anything on him either the gwen: let's talk about carly fiorina for a moment. she was, you are right, at the kiddies' table in the first debate. they've changed the rules to -- so she will be in. karen: and they changed the rules in a way that i think made the rules more fair because not stead of using old polls, they're using more recent polls. one thing, there may be 11 candidates on the stage now
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instead of 10. there will be a woman on the stage where there wasn't one before, but i do think that carly fiorina earned her way onto that stage by really demonstrating that she, outside of donald trump, probably has the best sort of thrust and parry skills of niff another candidates the you talk to people in silicon valley and they -- they say that's what she was known for, too, at h.p., she could do a sales or marketinggresentation like no one they ever saw. gwen: donald trump gave an interview to a conservative radio host who, among other things, about a couple of foreign names and whether he knew who they were and his spornings which is typical now, was to push back aggressively
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and say that's a gotcha question. is that something americans expect though of consider -- their candidates, to know the answers? peter: remember, when george bush was running, he was asked the names of four foreign leaders and om got maybe three and a half. but it didn't matter. it was a peaceful time, mostly focused on domestic issues. this is a different moment. the difference between the kuds military force, the par military force in iran fighting us for years and the kurds, fighting on our side against isis, is a pretty big difference. whether the average voter connects with that or not, probably not. but it's more relevant probably to today's issues than it has been in the past. karen: and hugh huet put those -- hewitt put those exact same
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questions to carly fiorina and she was able to answer them. peter: even if you don't know who they are because -- it was his dismissive tone about well, does it matter, they'll be gone when i'm in office and i'll know them better than i know who you are -- let's turn to the iran uclear deal. secretary kerry: we want anybody and everybody to vote
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or it. we're going to continue to try to persuade people up until the last moment, and our hope is that number will grow, obviously. but it is enough to sustain the president's veto. but that's not satisfactory for us. gwen: opponents aren't done yet. ted cruz has asked donald trump to rally against the deal at the capitol next week. and more than one candidate has pledged to take it apart. senator rubio: if i'm president, that deal will not survive. it's not a treaty, it's not legally binding on the united states. it's a decision the president has made to use the national security waiver of an existing sanctions law not to impose sanctions on iran. gwen: so who has the up ever hand tonight, peter -- the upper hand tonightepeter? peter: well, it was a good lead for the president in the sense now knows he can go ahead with the receipt of his administration. but lowering the bar by saying you can get a third of each house to back you, this is not just lowering the bar. but on the other hand he brought the king of saudi arabia to the white house today. they were not very happy with this deal but came to grudgingly accept it. they were trying to move on as
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well. can a republican president undo this deal on day one? i don't think it's that simple. it's six world powers, the u.n. security council is going it vote on it, procedures are going to be put in place. the europeans are not going to put sanctions back just because the americans don't like the dealt a whole confused mess the gwen: but i seem to remember that one of the political weaknesses of the health care law was it was aeid to without any agreed to without remember support. peter: no, it's simply his own party. he's got no hope of getting any republican votes in either house at this point and he's just trying to get his votes to stand by him. senator ben cardin said today he can't vote for the deasm
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he's the third democratic senator to say so. gwen: and the head of foreign relations? peerks -- peter: yes. so he's just trying to keep his people together. he's hoping that 18 months later when he leaves office it will seem like a better deal than it does today. jeanne: peter, when they started out, it seem like their whole dradgessh strategy was just to make sure to have the firewall, that the house would uphold the vetoo. they may get enough democratic senators to block themselves if they get to 41. that's going from basically zero to 41. if i read it, i don't think they ever thought they would do this well in the senate. peter: wel good point. a bunch of democrats had teamed up at the beginning to say we
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think this is flawed and a number of those in the democratic caucus have come around, again, grudgingly but -- jeanne:: how about -- did the white house get them to do that? peter: partly they've been much more aggressive and trying to put information before their friends than they have. this has not been a white house known for working with other people, even its own party. this time they've been much more assertive about getting on on the cause. jeanne: was there actually a backlash to bibi netanyahu's decision to come and speak before the congress? peter: i think there was. it becomes a more partisan thing, rather than bringing democrats along with them, republicans p sort of lost their chance to form a
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consensus on the deal. on some level a certain reality sets in where there isn't another choice. it's not like you can say let's go back to the bargaining table, because the other world powers aren't going back. this sts -- the president can say this is it now, not like you can take this deal or a better deal. gwen: notice in that clip earlier that joe biden was wearing a yarmulke and trying to per suede jewish supporters that this is a good deal, trying to persuade against the real strong pushback on the deal. the : and i remember president saying he resented being lled an anti-semite and sent out a letter saying here
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are all the ways we're going to try to make sure israel can defend itself so he's tried to make clear that being for the deal doesn't mean you are against israel. gwen: well, thank you, everyone. we have to go now, but as always, the conversation continues online on the "washington week" webcast extra where among other things we'll talk about the president's historic trip this week to the alaskan arctic. keep up with developments with judy woodruff and me on the pbs newshour and we'll see you hore next week on "washington week. have a restful labor day. ood night. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org/]
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