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>> rose: welcome to the program. tonight at our studio here in new york, a rare conversation with mariela castro, the daughter of the cuban president rauĂșl castro. >> how can two countries want to normalize relations when there are some norms for rules and particularly such aggression that makes it difficult even to put in place the actions that would be needed to normalize relations. so the hardest bit is -- the best thing is to see that there is good will, that the bilateral commission has been created in order to advance in the proposal, and i think there is good wishes from both parts, but we have to find the road that
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will allow us to advance faster. >> rose: and we conclude this evening with adam neumann, the founder of wework. >> wework helps create a world where people make a life, not just a living, and we think that's very important. technically speaking, we have 80 locations around the world we're in 30 cities, we're in 12 countries. we had between 5 to 10 locations each month, we have 60,000 members and those members have companies and families and friends and they're all taking part of this great new of working. >> rose: mariela castro espin and adam neumann when we continue. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following:
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>> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: mariela castro espin is here. she is the director of the cuban national center for sex education in havana, and she is also a gay rights activist. her havana-based organization campaigns for aids protection and lgbt rights. last month she held the largest gay pride parade ever held in cuba. she is the niece to have the former president fidel castro and daughter of rauĂșl castro. i had dinner with her in havana and am pleased to welcome her for the first time to my table. wewelcome. tell me what brings you to new york. >> well, i'm here with the cuban
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delegation presided by the minister for public health to participate in the high-level meeting called by the u.n. agency created for the pandemic of hiv/aids in order to establish an agreement amongst the governments for their internal national policies in order to accelerate the end of the pandemic of hiv/aids. >> rose: are we making serious progress? >> i think so. we have to recognize efforts have been made particularly since the first meeting -- the first high level meeting in 2001, there have been programs of action and a better
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understanding of the complexity of h.i.v. epidemic, which is not just a health problem it's a human rights problem, and it's a very complex social program and so, we need programs that are very engaged, policies that are engaged, public health policies, attention to health and reproductive right and no discrimination and no stigma against anybody. >> rose: how did you come to be the advocate that you have become? >> there is something in my past. my mother as a political director and social activist in cuba had started some work in favor of lgbt people at a
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political level, but she was not able to advance as much as she wanted. when i did some research on her life when she got sick, i found out that, even in 1974, she proposed that, in the new family call approved in 1975, marriage was considered a legal union among two people without taking into consideration their sex. it was very advanced for that time, but that was not the best moment for her ideas to be well received. but she left us some kind of seed because, when she realized she was sick and she was not going to be able to continue with the subject, and i was already a director of the center for sexual education, which gave eme some credibility to -- gave me some credibility to take care of the subject, then i started taking care of these subjects. >> rose: you sponsored a gay
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rights parade in havana. is cuba changing? >> yes, we started organizing the activities for education communication, since 1977, and now we have just celebrated the ninth version of these parades. this has has contributed a lot from the political point of view, the expression in the law, in the impact of the awareness change in our population. our population is not violent it's not a characteristic of ours, so it's very rare to have hate crimes, but there is a psychological violence and social exclusion rejection, not
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accepting lgbt people, and with our work we are helping the population as a whole to think about it, and particularly at the level of the political discourse, these subjects being a good position. >> rose: marriage equality. is there a strong push for marriage equality in cuba as there has been here in the united states? >> no, not -- no pressure from the population. we at the center for sexual education are promoting the political and legislative changes that we're having if our country, including equality for couples of the same sex, the same as heterosexual couples. when we speak for all the rights
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for all the people, we also have to include that option, marriage as the same as heterosexual couples. >> rose: you are also in the government. what is your role there? >> my role as a director in the national center for sex education at the legislative level, our proposals should be reflected in the decisions that are made but also in social activism, social practice, and i could say even in the judicial system in cuba in general so that there are important changes in relation to understanding sexual rights as human rights we have advanced, but we still have challenges. >> rose: we have witnessed a remarkable change in the relationship between the united states and cuba.
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secretary of state kerry president obama have visited and met with your father in havana. how would you characterize the developing relationship? >> the most important thing is that there is now a clear will from both governments to start a normalization of relations, but this process to normalize relations is very difficult, and it is going to be a long process because there are many obstacles that will make it difficult, the first one being the economic, financial and commercial blockade which is a type of hostility within the international law. how can two countries want to normalize relations when there
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are some norms, rules and particularly such a big aggression that makes it difficult even to put in place the actions that would be needed to normalize relations. so the hardest bit is -- the best thing is to see that there is good will, that a bilateral commission has been created in order to advance in the proposal, and i think there is good wishes from both parts, but we have to find the road that will allow us to advance faster. >> rose: clearly, the embargo is a part of congress, and the president has often said he would like to see the embargo end. what steps can be taken other than lifting of the embargo to make this relationship be on a
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track? >> the u.s. people can have an important role, putting pressure on their representatives at the highest level of decision-making in the u.s. government and the media journalists celebrities, public personalities can contribute to have a law eliminated and a unilateral decision from the u.s. government, which is also the main obstacle for the development -- economic development of cuba and who creates problems with relationships with other countries, and they also violate the rights of the american
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people. they cannot travel to cuba, they cannot invest in cuba, they cannot export their products to cuba. there is many problems that this law generates. so i believe that the more the people will know, the more the politicians will know in this country, the more probability there will be for a positive influence to eliminate it. >> rose: if, in fact, it is eliminated, it will open gates to an exchange culturally and every other way economically politically between these two countries. >> yes, of course. that is our wish. it's the wish of the people and the government of cuba since the triumph of the revolutions of 1959 but the response has been
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hostility and we have to negotiate. the united states is not going to come now and appropriate cuba for itself. no, we have to negotiate for our sovereignty, for the respect and reciprocity which has been the case since the beginning of the normalization process, and if this continues this way i trust it will happen. >> rose: did president obama in his speech to cuba and to the cuban people resonate with them about the good intentions that he felt to make this leap forward? did they feel enthusiastic about the step by the president? >> in cuba, i can tell you that first there was a great
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reception for president obama. we feel very close to him in his policies because he's the first president that has facilitated this encounter, he's the the first one to go and visit cuba since the triumph of the revolution. he was the one who participated in the negotiation with the cuban president so that the five cuban heros that were unfairly imprisoned in the united states would go back to cuba which was one of the main wishes of the cuban people, and we wanted relations reestablished. obama has a good intention and i think he has made great strides but not all the ones that he could have. so being with the cuban people,
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he spoke, but he didn't hear many things that the cuban people would have wanted to present to him to tell him. he gave his speech, and then he left. so i hope we can have another meeting with president obama. >> rose: but that's -- i mean, you're here and you can tell us. what would they want to hear if he had stayed longer? what do you want to tell us about cuba and the future of cuba and the united states? your father said, don't expect the politics of cuba to change, that's not part of the bargain. cuba is changing economically, and that will have an impact. >> i heard a lot of people who were at that meeting, and they
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will say i really felt the wish to say many things to obama and among the things, the activists from n.g.o.s said the first thing is to eliminate the embargo, to ask the european banks to trust us and do financial activities with us such as they're now doing with iran. do the same for cuba. it's very difficult to develop a country where every little piece of bread has to be divided amongst so many people with such few resources. we're like a country under siege, and we also need to get the territory of guantanamo back. >> rose: the principle request of the cuban government to get guantanamo back?
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>> and the government represents the people. no people want to have a piece of their territory taken from them. it has value, economic and tourist value. it's an important part of our geography. no country wants to be humiliated by having a piece of its land occupied. that is another request. we also want more efforts for world peace. we could have asked for many things, but i'm not sure this is the right moment to tell you. >> rose: it's helpful if you tell us. gantguantanamo is one. and the americans ask for things, as well. as you know, because we've had a political campaign, different opinions about foreign policy, and some american politicians say, i'd like to see more human rights in cuba, i would like to see less political prisoners.
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i would like to see cuba exercise more respect for the freedom of expression. >> well, i have to tell you that, of all these things that you just enumerated, it has been been shown with enough evidence, with enough proof, that cuba applies the human rights conventions at a higher level than the united states does, and this was said to the american journalists by the cuban president, along with the american president when he was in cuba, all governments have a special agenda that they haven't achieved yet on human rights. nobody has reached it 100%. the important thing is to have
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the good will to advance in that direction, and the cuban government has an objective to advance as much as possible towards these goals. it is also coherent with the social revolutionary project that has been defended since 1959. that is part of my job to defend the sex rights, which are not, perhaps, recognized in a certain sense in these documents, but they are recognized as rights, and we want these things to be included. the freedom of expression is a big cliche that has been created. >> rose: is what, a cliche? yes, it's a great -- a big cliche. the cuban people have to always
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give an opinion of even what they love the most, even their engagement, they always question everything, they always doubt about everything. this is something i really like about being a cuban and the cuban people, we always question everything. we have freedom of expression. the media response to those who pay them, and that happens everywhere here and everywhere else. so go to cuba, go and look at all the blogs that are written in cuba, all he social networks. we question everything, and that is very good. it makes the society move and transform. what else? >> rose: but there are others who suggest that's not the case. yes, you question everything. you can have lots of questions about america and its own standards, its values, its institutions, and you have a
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perfect right and we hope that you will ask questions about america and institutions, but america in terms of healing a long rift between two countries is asking about the nature of cuba today, and there are those who say that there is not the level of freedom of expression and protection of individual liberty that they would like to see. >> to those who don't believe there is freedom of expression, i invite you to come to cuba and to talk with the cuban people. come meet us, touch us. you can not categorize a country and give it a judgment from prejudice and from slogans at
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the have been used from the seat of power so that we do or say what is the best for the most powerful groups that want the revolution to fail. and why do they want it to fail? so they can dominate us. this country has been in resistance all the time, in revolution in movement, constant criticism, constant creativity. the ones who know our difficulties the best are ourselves and we talk about them constantly and we do not agree with each decision. i myself don't always agree with all the things that my father decides within the government because he's not the president of cuba, he's the president of the state council and the ministers council. so he doesn't decide. it's a collective decision.
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it's a big structure. but i do not always agree, and i always discuss it and many people do, and they write, and they publish, and dialogue spaces are created, and this is important because we constantly are the in front of a challenge to create a new society, a new economic and social system. in the caribbean, some other countries tried a different way to have more fair societies. we are trying to create our own social fair society. we have to be very brave in order to go against these big countries, but they distort what we say. they try not to show what happens in cuba, so one has to be courageous and get in the face of government, and this has
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to be done constantly. the process is to invent our socialism, invent our democracy as our decision -- the people's decision. nobody has achieved it yet, and we are doing our best is that two points. clearly, many, many people in america -- many journalists citizens, religious groups -- want to come to cuba, and i think they all would welcome your ideas, which is to say we invite you to come see for yourself what cuba is like, and that is helpful and positive and encouraging. the other thing is also to eliminate misconceptions about two countries of which steps are being taken to do that with
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face-to-face meetings between the presidents of the respective countries. does your government believe that america wants to dominate cuba, or is that part of a history that is no longer here? do you accept the idea that america does not want to dominate cuba? >> really? the everyday news shows that the united states wants to dominate the world, not just cuba. they intervene in countries with low blows in order to have a monopoly of material resources from certain areas in the world. i'm not saying it's the united states, but it is a very powerful group who develop these policies. they never get enough with what they have. they want to have a monopoly of
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resources in this world. that is not right. they do everything in order to achieve. they destabilize governments they put governments in trouble so that they can then come in and give humanitarian aid, and then they dominate them. so what happens is chaos violations of human rights. why are we embargoed? why does the united states continue with the embargo? at least this government is trying to eliminate it but there are some groups that, because of economic interests have to keep cuba in difficulties until cuba says, i give up, and then they will have a policy that will be convenient for their dominating interests. i think this idea of they do not want to dominate us i don't think even the mostig most ignorant
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person would accept this. i think they want to dominate us in this geopolitical space. >> rose: do you think there is anything cuba can do to influence the congress to lift the embargo? >> i don't think cuba can do anything. i think only the americans can do that. >> rose: it's been a long team since 1959. 56 years. >> there are new generations of americans, of cuban americans of cubans. has history done anything to heal some of the wounds that came from the bay of pigs and
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other acts in cuba? has history and time softened hostility? >> one important thing that i'd like to point out is that fidel as the highest leader of the revolutionary process, in his political discourse, never generated hate towards the united states. his political discourse was always very clear, that was helping us, the people to understand what was going on and why it was going on, but there were always -- they were looking for a way out on the diplomatic field, and he always said the p best solutions will be the ones
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in the diplomatic field. confrontation and particularly armed confrontation had to be avoided, so he never transmitted shape. the cuban people are not even asking that you ask forgiveness. we could but we don't. we will ask certain compensation for the cuban people, for harm that has happened with the state aggression. we had more than 5,000 victims wounded and dead, material damages. i think it was very valuable to see that, in the midof midst of all this situation, hate was never
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generated. it was just a question of understanding properly what was going on. >> rose: what's the role of the catholic church in cuba today? >> the catholic church is not a majority in cuba. the african religions are dominant, but there is more than 60 different types of congregations and a very good relationship with the communist party and with the state. they all have constitutional rights, and the catholic church is one of those churches that is part of the cuban reality. of course, at this point, the church has had a role in the relationship between the united states and cuba, particularly sense pope francis, who is an exceptional man, and because of
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coincidence of circumstances, there is been a strengthening of the relationship with the communist party the state and all the religious congregations. but here the main role belongs to the pope. >> rose: i assume you have information -- that your information is solid, reliable and comes from the top. >> no, i have the same information as the person who reads grandma every day. (laughter) >> rose: what are beyond the fight that you are making for human rights? the lgbt community on behalf of struggle against aids and disease. what are your aspirations? what does mariela want for her
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own participation in the future of cuba? >> i want to participate in the cuban future as a citizen, with all the rights that being a citizen gives me, and that is why i wanted all of the mechanisms of participation happen so that, that way, i can say everywhere, and in a way much more clear, what are my ideas, what i want. i'm working as a citizen, but i'm also working as a representative in the assembly just now on all the changes that are happening on the social and economic models. we have consultations -- wide consultations with the people in order to define the policies for
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very concrete policies and objectives that include important legislation but we have not advanced as much as possible because it's a lot more complicated than what we expected, but i do have a lot of hope, i'm telling you, that we are on the right road towards progress. that is what i want, progress within a context of respect for our sovereignty our independence, our idea of democracy, our socialism and prosperity. >> rose: but there is a palpable sense, if you go to cuba as i have been several times, of change, that cuba is in the midst of change. yes? that this is a moment of change just beginning.
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it will not happen tomorrow, the next day or the next day but the journey has begun. >> yes. quite honestly, the road started in 1959. >> rose: okay, yes. with the aspects that one could criticize and just as any social transformation, you look at it in hindsight and you can say, well, we could have done this better. even fidel now says, when i look back on to history, there are so many things i would have done differently, but it's part of the social processes and complexities. >> rose: but is it the constant, since 1959, that the communist party is the most powerful institution in cuba? the communist party is the most
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powerful institution? >> i think that, since 1965, then when the communist party of cuba was created, uniting uniting the leftist forces and getting inspiration from from the leader when he united the cuban party and to achieve independence from the spanish government, that is the inspiration, and uniting all the leftist forces in a communist party in cuba with the revolutionary idea that has evolved and is the party that has been at the forefront for the transformation of society.
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that gives it a moral, historic and political authority. but, yes, we could say it is the strongest force, although we're trying to develop also spaces for decisions that will also have strength, but without losing really that sense of union and consensus for change that the communist party brings in with the debates of ideas that happen within the party. i am militant in that party. i also am very critical in that party, and that i like, because the day when you do not criticize the party, we will have given up on our dialectic focus that we need. >> rose: our conversation began in havana, continues in new york, an next time we go
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back to havana, and i look forward to seeing you there. >> thank you very much. we'll see you there. >> rose: thank you for coming. back in a moment. stay with us. >> rose: adam neumann is here. he is co-founder and c.e.o. of wework. the company provides shared office space to entrepreneurs and independent workers. it now serves over 50,000 members. it is valued at more than $16 billion. wework recently took a sharing concept to the home market with the launch of "we live." the first location opened in new york's financial district this april. i am pleased to have adam neumann at this table for the first time. welcome. >> thank you charlie. >> rose: so let's talk about -- take me through the origin and development of wework. then i want to know more about what you have discovered about the people who come to wework.
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>> so born in israel. had actually slightly a challenging childhood. we used to move around a lot. every two years, i lived in a different place. one of the things i realized early on it's hard to be the new kid who goes and doesn't know anybody. i learned compassion. i look out for the person who's coming in. >> rose: that's exactly the reason president obama says he wants to leave in washington. he doesn't want to take his daughter out of a school -- let's say he moved to chicago or new york or somewhere else -- and introduce her. he wants to stay there till she finishes her level of schooling. >> that makes sense, but i argue since i moved so much, my parents got divorced when i was young, and she moved us around a lot, she was a doctor, and upset at her for that, but looking back, i don't think i would exist without these experiences. i think difficulty for kids,
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sometimes is important. >> rose: how did that experience and moving around inform you? you have been a serial entrepreneur. >> right. >> rose: somebody called you an entrepreneurial schlepper or something. how did that experience affect you. >> i lived in a version of a social experience which did not succeed. succeed. in a child, being in the community, having friends i had breakfast, lunch and dinner with, that was meaningful. when i moved to the u.s. which
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was after september 11, i loved there with my younger sister who was living there at the time by herself, and we were in an apartment building, had 15 floors, and we would go up and down the elevator and i would notice no one said hello. i said, do americans not like introducing themselves? they said, it's not considered polite. you go up the elevator and keep your mouth shut. i said as rirlzies we leak to speak to everyone. for a month we had an experiment to introduce ourselves to everybody and find a floor where we could have a cup of coffee. we did that in a month. within a month the whole energy of the building changed. there were parties -- >> rose: community. community. community is gloafnlt americans wanted it, israelis want it. it's a global phenomenon. the experiences took me to wework or to the beginning of wework. i know some of the guys in
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google like to call it kibbutz. it's capitalism and it's a balance. >> rose: how did you develop it. >> it was my third business about eight years ago and i met my then girlfriend, today wife, and i was smoking two packs of cigarettes a day, not doing well i was skinnier than today definitely failing in business and very quickly she looked at me and said, you're a big talker but there is not a lot going on behind it. i wasn't used to someone speaking me like that. i said, what do you suggest? she says, i suggest you drop everything you're doing, find the business you're passionate about and make sure that business can make a positive difference in the world. if you bring those two things together as one, she said first you will find success. success is about passion and doing what you love, coming together with real intention. she said don't worry about it
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the money will follow. as i i said, we met each other and we have been following each other ever since. we met mcgill who is our co-founder. he grew up in a commune in oregon. a kid from the kibbutz, the guy from the commune and the girl friend and now my wife, we were able to bring this thing. this is 2008. the world is about to crash and are crashing. our partner at the time who paid just to do the friers floor came to us and said this is not going to work, in the downturn, real estate goes down. i said it's not about real estate. it's about community. we think of the downturn, people want to be next to orthoindividuals and share the pain and success. whenever there is pain, there is a little success, so we can separate celebrate it. even sharing pain, it's a good quality.
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communities know how to share pain together. as we thought, we put five ads on craigslist, we never did any marketing. >> rose: what would be the ad in craigslist. >> it's being like beautifully designed and communal office spaces. we didn't understand how strong community was. it was called green desk. literally within a week after people moved in, we saw it way more interesting than the workspace was the relationship was the helping each other and the fact that they all actually were like-minded and we said, wow, there is something we can make a difference to. >> rose: what does wework do today? >> helps people to create a life and not just a living. we think that's important. 80 locations around the world 30 cities, 12 countries, we add between 5 to 10 location as month, we have 60,000 members and those members all have companies and families and friends and they're all taking part of this great new way of
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working. >> rose: and your evaluation is $16 billion, maybe different in terms of whatever the next financing, is i certainly would assume that. but it is, in your words, a very appealing opportunity for millennials. you once said to me on a plane that we shared, i know a lot about millennials. what do you know? >> first of all, two lessons from that. number one i know a lot that i don't know, also. i'm learning also to watch out -- >> rose: know what you know and know what you don't know. >> yes. i have a well-established opinion, about 60,000 members we have whose average age is 31, and we also have 1500 employees whose average is 28. we get to experience them a lot. but before we say that, i like to use a different term called the "we" generation, not limited to age or gender. it is anybody who understands being part of something greater than themselves is important that treating other people the
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way you want to be treated is actually the right way to be and that if you really find success in more holistic terms, you will be a more fulfilled individual. i know for a fact you're in the "we" generation. saying that, you asked about millennials -- >> rose: when you talk about that, when i give commencement or other kinds of speeches to people, i always say there are two things you start with. first, you know yourself, and then you know something larger than yourself, and that's where you start. >> and i think if we understand that being part of something larger than ourselves is a positive thing, not a negative, it makes us stronger and that's where millennials come in. then actually there is an opening to start changing the world. i'll tell you a few things we've observed about millennials. yes, they want it and they want it now because they had google in their hands for a long time now. when i was a kid you asked me to do something, i went to the encyclopedia britannica.
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at 14, it took me half an hour to find the question. when i was 17, i could open the exact page. they have knowledge. they have more compassion. they care more about meaning than material goods. they leverage technology. they find ways to make things people don't use, to make things cheaper and better for the environment and the world. i'm very happy that's the generation that's about to take more and more power. i'm very optimistic. >> rose: you know about them because you keep a lot of data. >> i think we keep a tremendous amount of data. things people don't usually talk about, where they -- when they get up how they go to the coffee and how they connect with other people. ourour members connect with each other. they choose to become members. we don't ask for long-term
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chiments. it's month to month. if you're a member of one you're a global member. so you could be from new york, tel aviv or london and with your app you can enter any space around the world. you can say i'm looking for an accountant lawyer or business partner or just the right place to have dinner and immediately get the answers. there are community members around this earth that are ready to help you. they workday time and nighttime. we work 24-7. it's a new way of working. >> you couldn't do this without what? >> technology is very important. the phone allows us at the press of boughten not only to share information but to communicate what we can need and can give. using technology in simple ways we have been able to empower our members. two, we're using technology for the buildings themselves. again, when do the doors open, how many people are using what and what's the occupancy both from safety point of view to east ease of use. these things upcome together. most important, in the generation willing to accept it.
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>> rose: the right idea at the right time. >> very important. not just oh, you guys are so good. we're very lucky and the timing is good. >> rose: you're the sixth most valuable private startup? >> i think if you do the math that way. >> rose: what does that mean? not a lot. what it really means is -- first of all, evaluation, and you know this, when one person is willing to sell, another person is willing to buy, important to remember that. >> rose: exactly. it means we were empowered by our investors to take the wildest dreams and make them into a reality. but by taking their money we've got to deal with them and that deal is we're supposed to make the money back. this was not just giving us money to play. >> rose: your investors. our investors gave us money to help us change the world. our members who are choosing to be with us every day are -- >> rose: how often does a member show up who doesn't fit? >> the beautiful thing is we have hardly ever kicked anybody out. whenever a member doesn't fit
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the community, it takes care of itself. simple example, recycling -- >> rose: change the person or kick them out? >> we haven't but the community communicated to other community members -- usually -- cycling is a good example. somebody comes to the recycling. if you don't know what you're doing, you may get confused and put it in the wrong place. someone may say here at work recycling is very important for us, can i show you how to do it? the guy can say, don't tell me what to do, or the other says please teach me. if you approach people nicely, the please teach me more is the response you get more often. but the strength of the community, the fact you haven't had to kick out. >> rose: they do business with each other. >> we have found out. 48% of the last survey -- we survey every two weeks. each time a different group of people. if you think about it, when it's chalking, you go into your
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community and say i need an accountant, graphic designer or just help. starting a business is such a difficult thing. i just need someone to listen. when you look at one company sometimes we think of big companies, we go to lunch and we have the same problems. i have my problems you have yours and we listen to each other. but they're separate problems. we help each other be empathetic. we find our members to be very helpful to eachout and that's how they do business. >> rose: is the projected growth to expand in scale or to take the concept to unexplored areas? >> so definitely b, we wouldn't be excited if it's just to grow in scale. right now we're focused on growing but putting the infrastructure for scale. creativity means process so we have a lot of creative employees and we love the creators but
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sometimes you need to put processes around that. the new frontier for us has been enterprise. the largest companies in the world have been approaching us and saying, hey, can you bring this community culture and energy into our company? you mentioned to me you're going to do an event with michael dell. our creative team wants to be in a few environment. it's a whole list of companies coming to us. >> rose: members. members with hundreds of thousands of employees and we're just starting with them. the most important thing is the community. we don't want to take a huge company and just put it in a building. we're very thoughtful. >> rose: i close with this, it is an age-old idea. you mentioned kibbutzs. it is the idea of creating work workspaces where people connect
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to each other. they're not sitting away in silos, isolated, doing their own thing, not sharing not having common space not having a place where there is a relationship of ideas and personalities. >> i think the main thing, i watched it so you and david brooks visited together. he said you create a space, the security, and you take the money and security and self-comfort and you've explored yourself and the second half of your life you give back. we think different. all your life is like that. we're helping create a world where always i'm doing what i love and i have mission and intention behind it. even when i'm 25, i want to be at that stage where i give back. but also i want to build myself as a person financially socially technologically.
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when i take the concept, you put it in to work environment. you think about it in corporate america and in enterprise, and you start saying if we can all buy into this thing that on the one hand we're taking care of ourselves but on the other hand giving and sharing, that's great. >> rose: are you close to calling this a movement? >> when we started i used to tell my co-founder miguel, let's start a community. he said you don't get to call yourself a community. community builds themselves, so do movements. when it becomes a movement, we will know. >> rose: tell me briefly about the living space. >> very short version everyone in college, kids all around this country, have an amazing communal experience. i know you went to duke. amazing experience. my friends in their '30s are still talking about that experience. one of the things i think people like so much about college is the community it brings because you hear the same story in all the different colleges.
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you become 22, 23, you come to the city to fulfill your life's dream. it's scary, lonely and expensive. you get to the small apartment by yourself, and you're a her mitt. instead of that, take an apartment building, cut the cost by 30%, put all the securities and amenities downstation put a social air on it and bring the same concepts of co-working into co-living and doing it for the betterment of everyone while saving the money and being surrounded by like-minded individuals and meeting new people which is so hard. >> rose: adam neumann, thank you. pleasure. >> thank you very much. >> rose: co-founder and c.e.o. of wework. thank you for joining us. see you next time. for more about this program and earlier episodes, visit us online at pbs.org and charlierose.com. >> rose: funding for "charlie
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