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captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: welcome to the program. i'm charlie rose. the program is "charlie rose: the week." just ahead, trouble hits the trump campaign. new worries over the zika virus. and jonah hill takes up the international arms trade in "war dogs." >> 100 million rounds of ak-47 ammo? we can fill the whole order. >> i'm barred from doing any business with the u.s. government. i'm on a watch list. >> you're on a terrorist watch list? >> rose: we will have those stories and more on what happened and what might happen. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide.
>> rose: and so you began how? >> having that conversation. >> rose: is it luck at all or is it something else? >> i have that belief in myself. >> rose: what's the object lesson here? >> build up the whole process. >> rose: tell me the significance of the moment. this was the week donald trump's presidential campaign was battled by controversies. concerns over the swriers zikaa virus swept the u.s. and the olympics. here are the sights and sounds of the past seven days. >> looked like a nice guy to me. if you look at his wife, she was standing there. she had nothing to say. maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. >> rose: trump faces backlash about his comments about a fallen soldier's family. >> he is incapable of empathy. >> i don't know where the bottom
is. >> we all feel sorry for what he went through. we have to stop the risk of radical jihad. >> the spread of zika in florida. >> that's why we've taken the the step of advising pregnant women not to travel to this area. >> president obama's administration secretly sent $400 million in cash on iran, the same time four detained americans were released. >> rose: warren buffet calls on trump to release his taxes. >> i'll bring my tax return. he can bring his tax return. nobody is going to arrest us. you're only afraid if you have something to be afraid about. >> vice president biden tweeted this message today-- "happy 55th barack, a brother to me, a best friend forever." and he had a photograph of some friendship bracelets. >> and donald trump tweeted a picture of ones he made for hillary clinton. those are not friendship bracelets! ( applause ). >> settle down. settle down ♪ happy birthday to you happy birthday ♪
>> president obama celebrated his birthday at the young african leaders summit. >> i'm a little disappointed with the lack of enthusiasm. >> the 2016 p.g.a. champion, jimmy walker. >> yesterday was just a dream come true. ♪ freefalling >> here we go. >> sky diver luke aikens jumped out of a plane with no parachute. >> and the crowd on the ground look up. they have a visual on him right now. he's in! ♪ today is the day teddy bears have their picnic ♪ >> we had a bear inside of our house. >> a bear broke into this man's house in california. >> whoa! oh, my god! ♪ at 6:00 their mommas and daddies will take them home to bed because they're tired little teddy bears ♪ >> rose: we begin with the 2016 presidential race and the trump campaign's very rocky
week. the issue is the ongoing ripple effect of the candidate's very public feud with the parents of an army captain kid in iraq. there have been unforeseen consequences for both the candidate and his party. amy chosic is here. she's covering the race for the "new york times." i'm pleased to have her back on this program. so tell me where is the trump campaign todayed? >> well, as proo paul ryan put , donald trumps that had a strange run sin the convention. i would argue it started during the democratic convention when donald trump called on the russian hackers to target hillary clinton's e-mails when she was at the state department. that was sort of the start of these ongoing daily controversys. and i think the point is no one can rein donald trump in and some of his advisers and those who want to see him succeed are learning that this week, and democrats as well, wondering if
he will emerge as a more disciplined presidential candidate. i think all of those questions have been killed this week. >> rose: is this different than when we all looked at what he said about john mccain and the muslim ban and so many things that happened during his campaign and said this is the one that will derail this candidacy? because it was unlike anything any other candidate for the president had said. >> glsk and yet he said it and it did not derail the candidacy? >> of course. but that was a republican primary. he is still popular among those republican primary voters and that's part of the open warfare in his party because he is popular with the base which the republicans are going to rely on during their election campaigns. i think this felt like more of a turning point because the convention is when a candidate is supposed to go out on a high. and hillary clinton is ahead by double digits in pennsylvania, in new hampshire, in places where donald trump is fending on winning.
>> rose: there is also the missed opportunity to make issuees of things that would provide fertile ground for donald trump to be aggressive in his attacks on hillary clinton. >> right, absolutely. republicans view hillary clinton as a very vulnerable candidate. and in a way the numbers reflect that. a majority of voters even afterra successful convention don't trust her. they don't like her. there are a number of vulnerabilities that a traditional opponent would be exploiting every day but she has slid under the radar as everyone talks about donald trump's comments. >> rose: clearly, donald trump is trying to make the case he's a change candidate but he wasn't talking about that this week. he did fortunately get on message but he has been derailed for four or five days at the democratic convention talked about the khan family. >> exactly, and also talking about the debates and whether the debates are unfair. democrats think he's going to suck a lot of oxygen up talking about himself and the rigged system. meanwhile, he's not going to hit her on a weakness for the
democrats, which is this is a change year. voters want a change. they want a different direction, even though obama's approval ratings are still pretty high there's an opening for an outsider and he's not seizing that right now. >> rose: you have had some defections, people who have said they simply cannot support donald trump. you have others who say i cannot support donald trump and i will in fact vote for hillary clinton, meg whitman being one. >> i don't think donald trump is the answer for president of the united states. >> rose: and there have been others, especially those in the foreign policy community. >> right. >> rose: is it possible this will unleash a whole series of republican leaders who will say, "i can't vote, and i'm going to vote for the opponent, even though i find much to fault with hillary clinton, on this choice, it's hillary clinton?" >> right, right. i think right now, president obama just urged congressional republicans to break with-- to -- >> not withed standing what you might have done early, you
should break with that now. >> i think the next step is saying you're going to summit hillary clinton. that is a big step we have not seen from sitting republican leadership. >> rose: when you look forward, is it possible that donald trump can recover from this? is it likely he can recover from this? or is he going to have a disadvantage until we see some change possibility, liebt debates. >> reet. the debates will be a turning point, but i also think donald trump's chances of turning this around-- and he certainly could-- are dependent on something else that could be damaging to hillary clinton and whether that comes from his own campaign shifting focus from her, and julian assange said he had, mails that could damage her candidacy. what could be coming next. >> rose: this week, the government issued an unpress departmented warning for pregnant women to steer clear of
a miami, florida neighborhood. mosquitos carrying the zika virus have infected 15 residents. meanwhile, federal funding to fight zika is in danger of running out this month. joining me now is dr. jon lapook. he is a physician and the chief medical correspondent for cbs news. welcome. >> charlie. >> rose: what is the latest you know about where we are in this story and what the medical community is doing? >> well, i think the number one thing that's going on right now is every one of my colleagues at every level of government, especially in the health professions, at the local, at the state, at the federal, are beside themselves over the lack of funding to help had zika outbreak. now, back in february, president obama requested $1.9 billion in emergency funding at the request of the c.d.c., dr. tom frieden is the head of that -- >> this was not new money, moving money around? >> well, they wanted new emergency money. they didn't want it to be moved
around. what happened was-- nothing, nothing. no new funding has been allocated. almost $600 million has been moved around. it was money that was supposed to go to ebola and other things but that's sort of robbing from peter to pay paul and that has to be replenished. what's happened is a lot of politics. but the bottom line right now is congress is away on recess, no new funding. and i just spoke to tom frieden, head of the c.d.c., and he is beside himself, same thing with tony fauci, and tom frieden said to me, "this is no way to run an epidemic." >> rose: i find it stunning that the president can't find $1.9 billion in funding for this. there must be some money somewhere in an existing budget. >> you would think so, but at the end of the day, the bottom line is we knew back in the winter. we had this amazing ability to see this in advance, and for me it's been like watching a car accident in slow motion. we were so lucky it happened in
our winter. we had plenty of time to get ahead of this epidemic. and that would have meant would have been getting control of the local mosquito population. because that is a very meticulous operation. you look at what's going on in miami right now, how are they handling this? what they have to do sfirst of all, go house to house, and talk to people and measure their urand i know their blood and find out is this spreading to areas where we don't realize because 80% of the infections with zika are asymptomatic. you don't know it. in terms of getting rid of the mosquitos themselves, they spray on the outside of the house. they spray on the inside of the house. they get rid of free-standing water because the mosquitos can multiply in just a little bottle cap. wn larvicide, and the reasonut is that these mosquitos, they lay down the larvae. you can kill them all, and then a couple of days later, the larvae hatch. >> rose: let me go back to the money for a second. if they run out of money, if they do not get the money somewhere what are the
ramifications on the ground? all of the things you've just been talking about will stop? >> right now, if you look at a place like miami, they're actually relatively well funded and they got $26 million in emergency funding from rick scott. houston, relatively well funded. what about small areas if of on the gulf coast. places that don't have the experience, don't have the resources? number one, they're going to have a tough time knowing if people are infected because they won't be able to test them. >> rose: and they don't show thicismoms. >> they don't show the symptoms. ly say they're lucky enough and find out somebody is infected. then they have to get rid of the mosquitos. it's not something you can say, "here's some money. do it tomorrow." you have to build up the whole process. and one of the biggest things is, you talk about this vaccine, all right? this week for the very first time, the n.i.h. vaccinated the first of 80 volunteers. inary going to be male and female, 18-35 years old.
not pregnant but that's an age where they could be thinking about getting pregnant. they have enough money for phase one which is a safety trial, what dose, and does is it illicit an immune response, does it help you boost your body's ability to fight zika? what will happen now is they think phase two should start in january. tony fauci said they have to start gearing up for that phase now, and they're running out of the money. >> rose: how does this compare to other circumstances like this? >> in terms of an outbreak, an epidemic? well, the only thing i can think about in terms of not getting the response from congress for funding was at the beginning of the aids epidemic. i mean, listen to me. i like to sort of be the reporter who is dispassionate, who is reporting on this and i've tried to do that. but it's sort of gotten to the point, charlie, where, you know, the world is round. you can say well there are some people who think the world is round and some people think the world is flat. the world is round, and the fact
here that i'm just reporting but with some emotion is, congress can't get it together, for whatever reason, whose ever's fault it is, to get this emergency funding, everybody says it is needed. i spoke to the head of public health in harris county where houston is, and he's beside himself. you look at every level of government and people can't understand why they can't get it together. >> john dickerson is the moderator of "face the nation" and political director of cbs news. over the years, he has covered six presidential campaigns. his new book is called "whistle-stop: my favorite stories from presidential campaign history." >> election religion about the future. although, in a way, donald trump is very much relying on a vision of the past and saying what you miss and long for in america, i can return to you, which is another way in which we're talking about different turf here. >> rose: i'm asking what that
is, other than in america. >> it's an america in which values that people feel like they grew up with are-- are still a part of the common conversation. people are are, you know-- i mean, depending on-- it has to do with an economy that works and people feeling like they can leave their children in an economy ask a country where they will have a better life tomorrow. they feel all of that is threatened. and they feel like if they went back, if you got rid of the policies of the liberal obama, that it-- america would settle down into its natural state. that's why he always says, "make it agreement again." >> rose: so everything was fine before obama. >> that's part of it. the interesting question is when was it fine? what period are you going back to? and that's often a difficult answer to get people-- people to give you. but to your question about where we are now on hillary clinton. you're quite right, this trust question. just as donald trump has had some stumbles on the question of
temperament, hillary clinton has reanimated questions on her honesty by giving answers to chris wallace. she got four pinocchios from the "washington post." >> rose: what is it about her that she commits that mistake, knowing, as intelligent as she is, she would not recognize it as-- she defended the fact that it was not a lie. >> yeah. >> rose: so on the one hand you can recognize it is not a lie. on the other hand, you can have a set of experiences and a set of self-protection that forbids you to acknowledge something. >> right. well, that's the character logical flaw that people are most worried about, is that there is a permanent mindness this causes that situation and that that would be detrimental in a president to have somebody that their default position is to always move where the answer is not the forthright one. >> rose: is there conventional wisdom on people who cover
politics every day with the skill that you do that in fact she did this, knowing it was wrong, knowing it was against the law-- she said it was a mistake because of the aftermath. >> that's right. and that's what irks people about her. and the choice people are going to have to make is it the trustworthiness people feel on hillary clinton based on what she did in office or crump-- and these are people voting on trust. that's an open question. how many people for them is trust the key question? for donald trump the question is, this is somebody who has changed his positions and views on multiple things, including some of his signature policies. he's moving around a lot on the question of muslim immigration, the temporary ban. so do you find that kind of change in position worse than hers? >> rose: what's the joy of this for you? >> well i think the joy it's joy of it is trying to figure out-- it's the same with you-- what's
going on in the country? this is a chance for a big national conversation. the joy is having that conversation and figuring out to-- because at the end of that conversation are a bun of people who are frustrated that their country is not going in the right direction. and to the extent that you can get any answers, it's a mystery. un, you're out there panning for clues, and when you find something you think is real, that's enjowbl. >> rose: jimmy walker, golf's newest p.g.a. champion. he led the four-day tournament from start to finish, overcoming a late charge sunday by the world's top-ranked player, jason day. the victory was walker's first major title on tour. >> i've had that belief in myself and my abilities, that this was possible one day, and it was just a dream come true.
>> rose: and do you think-- once you get a major-- it will unleash something so that the likelihood of winning more is more likely? >> i would think so. i think once you know you can do something, then it's-- then i think the gates can open. it's the same thing that happens at a golf tournament. had somebody knowledges a golf course is tough, somebody put a good number out there, then somebody's like, "oh, you can on do that." and then you start to see more scores happen like that. i think that's the same way. i know when i won my first event, more came very quickly right after that. once you know you can do something, then you know you can do it. >> rose: has your game changed between this and when you won your first tournament? >> i think it's about the same. i feel like this year i haven't played quite as well as i would have had liked to, especially compared to the last three, four years. but i knew it was right there. i felt like i had had kind of a breakthrough in canada. i felt like stuff was starting
to materialize. >> rose: is that from practice or does it just sort of happen? >> it's from practice, and it's from practicing, better thinking, and staying in a positive frame of mind, not getting so down. just keeping upbeat, knowing you're right there. see the been a little bit of both. >> rose: they used to say about tiger at his best that he had raimental edge, that his father had drilled that into him. true? >> i think so. if you stand out on the range and watch all of us hit golf because. everybody can do it. i think what separates the great players is that ability to mentally just dominate the field, honestly. >> rose: talk about strategy in terms of how you approach it. when you approach the first tee on the final day, you've played it three times. you've practiced the course. you're one of the great famous top courses in america. what are you thinking? i would be thinking, "i hope i get this ball off the tee."
>> mine was, "i'm going to put this right in the middle of the fairway." it really was. i'm not going to make it up. di, and hit a great 6 iron right in the middle of the green where i was supposed to and just continued that the rest of the day, keeping the ball right on the fairway, keeping it in front of me. i just didn't want to make any mistakes. >> rose: did you make any mistake joodz technically, no, no boths. but there are some shots i would like to take back just for sure. >> rose: 65, 66, 68, 67. could you hear the footsteps of jason day? >> i saw the footsteps of jason day. he was-- he was right in front of me. >> rose: i know! >> so that was nice. being in the last group, you're in the driver's seat, and you get to watch what's going on. i know how -- >> you had been leading every day. that's what you get to do. >> that's right. beak in the last group is huge because you kind of control your fate.
>> rose: "war dogs "is a new film from writer-director todd phillips. jonah hill stars as one of two young men hoenter the world of international arms trading during the the wars in iraq and afghanistan. >> i first read about this story, it was a "rolling stone" article written by guy lawson, who writes for "rolling stone." i read the article and it was one of those moments where you go, whoa, this feels like it could be a movie, in the panton that truth is stranger than fiction. sometimes you do an investigation and kind of unpack. it. and go it's better off than an article. it's not really a movie. but this kept getting weirder and more involve involved and b- >> the more you learned the more you wanted to do.
>> yeah, basically. as we were writing and doing our own research on it, it became a bigger story. >> gl and who is ephron? >> ephron is a reptilian kind of guy. whoever he needs to impress in the room he can become the person to impress that person. he doesn't have a high moral compass, i don't think, but he's so tenacious, he's the kind of person you meet in life and may not want to be best friends with, but you walk away saying that guy is it going to be successful. >> rose: and how does he pull it off? >> manipulation, intelligence. >> rose: the ability to persuade. >> yeah, yeah. >> rose: to appear what he is not. >> the meeting of manipulation and fierce intelligence can be very dangerous, think. >> and confidence, you know. >> confidence. >> the ultimate confidence that jonah really portrayed really well in this film. >> rose: you have to have confidence to do that.
>> you have to have confidence and swagger, i think. >> rose: confidence, swagger, and a little bit of insanity. >> probably true. >> rose: the real ephron did not want to meet with you or did not meet with you? >> no. >> rose: you never asked to meet with him? >> i have played a hand full of real people now at this point, and whenever the person doesn't want me to play them and wants no involvement in the film, it turns out good. they want me to play them, then it turns out not very good. so i took it as a good sign. "money ball" and "wolf of wall street--." >> rose: the character you were playing or was based on their lives in part. >> had some objection to me playing them. >> rose: why would that be? >> part of the objection is they don't want to be-- >> i think, honestly, i think it could have to do with me. i think-- with, in the others kays what was interesting is, who is playing the other guy. leonardo dicaprio, brad pitt. who is playing me? jonah hill. another i'm not going to be involved. i think in this case specifically he probably wanted
to make-- i feel like he wanted to make his own version of the film of his life, portraying him as sort of starface or the godfather. >> rose: here say look at the week ahead. sunday is the day the indianapolis colts mean the green way packers in the annual hall of fame game. monday is the start of elvis week in memphis, tennessee. tuesday is the day the american women's soccer team plays colombia at the rio olympiced. wednesday is the start of the 400th annual puck fair in ireland. thursday is the opening day of the iowa state fair in des moines, iowa. ed from is the first day of the new york friends festival. saturday is a private memorial serservice for prince in minneapolis. and here's what's new for your weekend. the edinborough international festival gets under way in edinborough, scotland.
will smith, jared leto, viola davis, and margot robbie are in theaters with "suicide squad." >> seriously, what the hell is wrong with you people? >> we're bad guys. it's what we do. >> rose: and kermit ruffin, john schofield, and the reverse jazz band are playing the telluride jazz festival in telluride, colorado. >> rose: that's "charlie rose: the week" for this week. on behalf of all of us here, thank you for watching. i'm charlie rose. we'll see you next time. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by:
steves: the latin quarter is the core of the left bank, as the south side of the seine river is known. this has long been the city's university district. in fact, the university of paris, a leading university in medieval europe, was founded here in the 13th century. back then, the vernacular languages, like french and german, were crude, good enough to handle your basic needs. but for higher learning, academics like this guy spoke and corresponded in latin. until the 1800s, from sicily to sweden, latin was the language of europe's educated elite,
and parisians called this university district "the latin quarter" because that's the language they heard on the streets. today, any remnant of that latin is buried by a touristy tabbouleh of ethnic restaurants. still, it remains a great place to get a feel for the tangled city, before the narrow lanes were replaced by wide, modern boulevards in the 19th century. the scholarly and artsy people of this quarter brewed up a new rage, paris's café scene. by the time of the revolution, the city's countless cafés were the haunt of politicians and philosophers who plotted a better future as they sipped their coffee. and the café society really took off in the early 1900s as the world's literary and artistic avant-garde converged on paris. in now-famous cafés along boulevard st. germain and boulevard st. michel, free thinkers like hemingway, lenin, and jean-paul sartre enjoyed the creative freedom these hangouts engendered.
>> rose: welcome to the program. we begin with jeffrey toobin and his new book, "american heiress: the wild saga of the kidnapping, crimes and trial of patty hearst." >> they are all legally related, but they are not necessarily the same thing. i have to say, this is the first book i've written that is at the border between journalism and history. >> rose: yeah. and fortunately, most of the people were still alive 40 years later, but it was enough in the past that it really felt like another time that i was writing about, not current events, and that was fun. >> rose: we continue with adam driver, the ac door from "girls" and "star wars." his project is arts in the armed forces where he brings theater to the military. >> having left for the military, when i got out and went to school was really the first time