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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> ifill: good evening. i'm gwen ifill. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff.ll >> ifill: on the newshour tonight, protests erupt in charlotte, north carolina as the city attempts to get to the bottom of how a black man waso killed by police. >> woodruff: also ahead this wednesday, we sit down with libertarian candidate gary johnson on what it means to his campaign to be left off thebe first debate stage. >> ifill: plus, a deep dive inti donald trump's overseas businesses, and how those entanglements could affect hisen foreign policy. >> woodruff: and, a look at the historical gems inside the new national museum of african american history and culture sitting in the country's front yard. >> i hope this museum will continue to evolve, continue to change, because it really has t be a place that is the great t
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is on edge, awaiting a second night of protests over the police killing of a black man. the drama began with a tuesday confrontation that sparked aat night of trouble. william brangham begins our coverage. >> no peace! >> reporter: protests boiled over in north carolina's larges city, within hours of the fatal shooting. the victim was 43-year-old keith lamont scott, and his sister-- who did not give her name-- sai he'd been unarmed. >> they said, "hands up! he got a gun!, he got a gun! pow! pow, pow, pow!" that's it! he had no gun! >> reporter: another woman, claiming to be scott's daughter, went on facebook, saying he'd had a book, not a gun, and also had an unspecified disability. in short order, a crowd blocked traffic on interstate 85, throwing rocks, and destroying police cars. some looted a tractor trailer and set it on fire, and others broke into a nearby wal-mart. police eventually used tear gas to quell the violence, but 16he officers were injured. this morning, police chief kerrs
putney urged people to step back, and be calm. >> i can tell you from the facts that the story is a little bit different as to how it has been portrayed so far, especially through social media. >> reporter: as putney told it, officers had been at an apartment complex, searching for a suspect, when they saw scott get out of a car. they say he did have a gun, andi refused to put it down. >> in spite of the verbal commands, mr. scott exited his vehicle armed with a handgun, as the officers continued to yellti at him to drop it. he stepped out, posing a threat to the officers, and officer brentley vinson subsequentlyey fired his weapon, striking the subject. >> reporter: the officer-- who is also black-- was placed on administrative leave, standard procedure in such cases. meanwhile, local activists and ministers called for an economic boycott of charlotte.
>> across the country we are being shot down. d shot down. very few cops go to jail for that.n. >> reporter: the incident cameid just a day after graphic video from tulsa, oklahoma that showed an officer shooting an unarmed black man. >> ifill: we'll hear from the mayor of charlotte, after therl news summary. >> woodruff: in the day's other news, the federal reserve held fast on keeping a key, short- term interest rate near record lows. fed chair janet yellen said economic activity has picked up but there's no need yet to put on the brakes. >> we're not seeing strong pressures on utilization, suggesting overheating, and myrh assessment would be, based on this evidence, that the economy has a little more room to rune than might have been previously thought. that's good news. >> woodruff: yellen did suggestg an interest rate increase is
likely before year's end. >> ifill: the fed's action sent wall street higher. the dow jones industrial average gained 163 points to close at 18,293. the nasdaq rose nearly 54 points, and the s&p 500 added 23.de >> woodruff: the crisis in syria took center stage today at the u.n. security council. the u.s. and russia clashed over the failure of the latest cease- fire, and monday's deadly attack on an aid convoy. russian foreign minister sergei lavrov denied responsibility,re and offered other explanations. but secretary of state john kerry shot back, "this is not a joke," and he condemned what he called "word games." >> now, this attack has dealt aa very heavy blow to our efforts to bring peace to syria, and it raises a profound doubt about whether russia and the assad regime can or will live up to the obligations that they agreea to in geneva.ne it also raises questions-- not
>> woodruff: kerry called for grounding all aircraft flying over routes for humanitarian r deliveries. meanwhile, another air strike hit a mobile medical unit outside aleppo overnight. activists reported at least 13 people died. >> ifill: president obama and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu had a final meeting today at the u.n., after years of testy relations. this time, the two leaders were all smiles. the president said a new $38 billion military aid package will let israel cope with "enormous uncertainty" in theno region. >> woodruff: the cost of the emergency allergy shot, epipen, and the company that makes it, drew bipartisan scorn today from congress. at a house hearing, heather bresch, c.e.o. of drugmaker mylan, defended raising the price more than 500% since 2007. it now costs $608 for a two- pack. she said mylan will soon introduce a generic version ata half the cost, but lawmakers
were unimpressed. >> a mother would cut off her right arm to get that dose of drug.f you decided to charge $600 instead of cutting off her arm, and now you're saying you're s dropping it to $300 and that should make us all feel better, when in fact, that's probably a about ten times what the drug should cost. >> congressman, we want everyone who needs an epipen to have an epipen.es all the programs we put in place, from the generic, to the higher patient assistant program, to trying to address every facet, is what we will remain focused on. >> woodruff: bresch said the company makes $50 dollars profit from each epipen. >> ifill: and outside the capitol today, construction crews started work on the platform for january's inauguration of the 45th president of the united states. republican and democratic leaders hammered in the ceremonial first nails for the massive 10,000-square foot structure. 1,600 people will have to fit on
the stage. >> woodruff: still to come on the newshour: we sit down withwi libertarian presidential candidate gary johnson; donald trump's foreign business dealings as potential conflictss of interest; police robots being used to detonate and defuse bombs, and much more. >> woodruff: we return to the fatal police shooting in charlotte, north carolina late yesterday, and the violent street protests that followed. here with me now is the city's mayor, jennifer roberts. welcome, mayor roberts. thank you. we're hearing two different versions upon what happened. is there any new information to come forward late today that lends credence to either version? >> well, we have heard from our police chief that we do have
video footage of the incident. i they are still analyzing it. it's from different angles.nt we have heard that a gun was found on the scene. s there was no book found on the scene. and that we are corroborating different witness views as wella to make sure that woe have all the facts in hand.n but we are hearing a very different story from within the city. >> woodruff: you mean from within the community, from the relative, or apparently the daughter of the victim, and from an eyewitness who said she saw a book fall out of his lap when he got out of the car. c >> we want to make sure that we have a thorough investigation.ug we have a history in charlotte of being very transparent, andd we absolutely want the communitm to know that this investigationv will have the highest integrityt we want to of the community to be patient as we put together all the facts. we know there are different versions of the story out there.
and we are calling for a peaceful protest while we put everything together,pu and while we get the evidence clear. >> woodruff: will gun that was found be publicly released?li will it be shown to the public? and will that video that we understand that's available be shown? >> well, i have asked to see the video footage as soon as possible. chief, at his discretion, can show it to leaders in the community. we are working with our officers to help get that information to some key people. and absolutely evidence. once the investigation is completed and that we are sure we have all of it, and it is accurate, i want us to be as transparent as possible. we absolutely need to show folks that this is an investigation that is transparent with the highest integrity. >> woodruff: so does that mean that all of this material will ultimately be made available? a
>> well, there are some legal issues around that. our policy has been that while the investigation is still active that, that is not made public. but once the investigation is concluded, whatever that conclusion is, then it will be accessible in terms of what extent, again, there are somee legal procedures to go through. but my goal is to make it as clear as possible as soon as possible. >> woodruff: do you have any more information, mayor w rober, about who the victim was? we know that-- the the woman who said she was his daughter said that he had a disability. d do we know any more about that?t >> i have not been able to confirm any more information about the victim. v i know that there are many folk in addition community who are stepping up-- our faith leaders, our community leaders -- who are calling for peace, who are calling for patience, absolutelo want people to express their views, express their
frustration, perhaps, with the t slowness of noaks coming out. but we are calling for peace and hope people will wait until all becomes clear and we can get that information out. i >> woodruff: we reported a few moments ago that there appeareda to be demonstrations formingfo this afternoon in charlotte. c what is the state of what's going on in the community right now? we have had some gatherings. we have a small gathering of people in the uptown area, people very peacefully, very quietly, holding up signs, "black lives matter." we have a gathering of the faith community and some faith leaders who are gathering in a park who have made it very clear this is peaceful. they want to express their concern with a story that, again, has played out all around the country, and folks are very skeptical, to be honest, of soms of the investigations that have happened. but weep people to express that
frustration. we want to work with our community. we have a long tradition of our faith business, of our business and community leaders comingde together to work through these things. and we have had numerous dialogues. we have a community relations committee that the city has that has a process where we can have theseav constructive dialogues.r >> woodruff: and finally,y, quickly, we understand president obama telephoned you today. t is that right?t what did he say? >> absolutely. i have spoken to president obaba obama, and he certainly offered anyly help the federal governmet could provide. there are folks in the justice department, others who have worked with community policing strategies who know how to workr with communities.h i was grateful for the call. clearly, this is something our country is facing, and we absolutely do need to know thath there are racial disparities still in our country. and it is in our best interests and in our community's best interest to work together, to continue to be a country that is
more equal and where everyone iy the treated with dignity and respect. and we pledge to do that here in charlotte. >> woodruff: mayor jenniferuf roberts, the mayor of the city of charlotte. c thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. >> ifill: issues of race and justice were also the candidates' focus on the campaign trail today. john yang reports. and a warning: it includeswa language that may be offensive. >> reporter: donald trump-- the self-proclaimed "law and order"f candidate-- raised questions today about the actions of a white police officer whoseli shooting of an unarmed black man last week is being investigated by the justice department. >> i must tell you, i watchedhe the shooting, in particular in tulsa, and that man was handswa up.
that man went to the car, hands up, put his hand on the car. i mean, to me, it looked like he did everything you're supposedou to do. and he looked like a really goo and this young officer, i don't know what she was thinking-- i don't know what she wasas thinking-- but i'm very, very troubled by that. >> reporter: trump was speaking during a conference of pastors at a black church in a cleveland suburb. he was introduced by boxing promoter don king. king recalled counseling michael jackson about the realities of how blacks are viewed in america, and appeared to accidentally use the "n"-word. >> if you rich, you are a rich negro. if you are an intelligent intellectual, you are an intellectual negro. if you are a dancing, sliding, and gliding nigger-- i mean negro--
( chuckles ) you are a dancing and sliding and gliding negro, so dare not alienate because you cannot assimilate. >> reporter: in orlando, hillary clinton weighed in, too, on race and policing. >> we have two more names to add to a list of african-americans killed by
police officers in these encounters.e it's unbearable. and it needs to become intolerable. we need to come together, work together-- white, black, latino, asian, all of us, to turn the tide, stop the violence, build the trust. >> reporter: as the campaign heads into the homestretch, clinton has a big financial advantage over trump. in august, she raised $60 million, her biggest one-monthne
haul yet. trump raised just over $40 million. much of clinton's money has been going into tv ads. since mid-august, according to one analysis, clinton is outspending trump on tv by more than 2-1. for the pbs newshour, i'm john yang. >> ifill: only five days until the first presidential debate,rs but libertarian nominee
gary johnson won't be on the stage-- after saying it was his onlyr path to victory. that's where governor johnson and i began our conversation, earlier today. >> interestingly, something that i did not know is that i am polling higher than ross pero was polling before he was admitted into those debates. >> ifill: the rules were different. >> the rules were different, and, of course, the rules were really adopted to make sure a third party would never be on the stage again. a >> ifill: so what do you do?o? >> well, you just keep plugging away. i mean, i'm representing, i think, the majority of voters in
this country. the majority of voters in thiss country don't know that, but, b you know, that's my task. and speaking broadly, fiscally conservative, socially inclusive, skeptical when ithe comes to our military interventions, regime change, and free market, devoid of croapy capitalism, kevoid of pay to play. >> ifill: you have just described between a rock and a hard place. get known, youu don't get the debate stage.ta >> it's a catch-22, totally a catch-22. >> ifill: we have seen polls, p there are voters out there who don't much like donald trump, don't much like hillary clinton, who are curious about you. how do you get them to find out? >> i have never had an issue with 15%. >> ifill: when is the barrier to get on the debate stage. s >> but here it is-- my name has never appeared in one nationalat poll as the first question,
johnson, trump, or clinton. not one. >> ifill: why should it?t? >> i'm on the ballot in all 50 states. and i'm the only third party on the the ballot in all 50 states. i have meanted, tongue in cheek, if mickey mouse were the top name, mickey would be at 30%. 3 mickey is a known commodity, but mickey is not on the ballot in all 50 state, either.te >> ifill: how do you capitalize on the unpopularity u of the other candidates, ands, maybe make the support which you have, which might be soft, if it doesn't look like you're going to be on thelo debate stage, how do you harden that up? >> well, actually, think the support is really hard. h last night, there was a poll released that i'm number onee among independents right now, and that's something i want to point out, also, is., the largest group of the voting population is independent atnt about 45% now of the population. where's their representation?r well, as of last night, i'm leading in that group, which i think speaks volumes.sp >> ifill: i'm going to give you an opportunity on get past polls and talk about exworching
and leadership. l so this week we've seen a serier of attacks in new york, in new jersey, attempted attacks in minnesota. it never seems to go away. you have advocated eliminating the department of homeland security. somewhat something you would still do, giving what we. are facing? >> yes, i think it's an added layer of bureaucracy that really hasn't accomplished anything.is but talking about governing, this is what i really enjoyed being-- what i really enjoyeden being governor of new mexico was really being at the center. in this case if i were presidenp of the united states, clearly,es what we're doing is working up to a certain point, but clearlyc right now, there's a breakdown. and i'm talking about shooter in orlando, the fact that they did know about this guy in new york, at least-- you know, he was on the radar screen. is it an issue of more resources? i have found those in law enforcement, you know, they really do know their jobs.ir >> ifill: but you would break
apart the department of homeland security. that wouldn't make ourho ability to fight these people or track those people--os >> keep in mind, these are 22 agencies that were broughte together under the department op homeland security. in my opinion, they left their homes that they had existed in for awe long time, and that right now we just have an added layer of bureaucracy that really isn't plushing anything.g i don't know what armed homeland security officers, uniformed officers armed walking the t street are doing in this country. i have no idea what they're doing. >> ifill: how about the unarmed people who: actually track these terrorists? >> the unarmed people. >> sreenivasan: >> ifill: unarmed people.ed >> these are agencies who were doing this prior. p nothing new is created with the deps of homeland security.la i think this should be a furchtion of the f.b.i. i mean, this should be f.b.i. f >> ifill: let's talk a little bit about leadership again, as we have seen this week in charlotte, in tulsa, and around
the country, unrest, racial unrest. how would you lead on that issue? >> well, in this case, black lives do matter. blacks getting shot at six timee the rate of whites.t i have been more outspoken than any politician in the country with war on crugz, recognizinggn if you are of color and you are arrested on a drug-related crime, there are a four times more likelihood that you will any to prison than not.no >> ifill: i want you to focus on what is alleged to be police misconduct, though. what does that have to do with the the war on drugs?ru >> i think it has its roots in the war on drugs? i think roots of discrimination does exist in thef the war on drugs. when it comes to police recognizing that this is happening, that when i'm pulled over, i'm not-- i'm not pulled out of the car. i am not provoked to point that i get angry, and i have cuffs c
put on me because i'm white. >> ifill: what ask a president do? >> the president,: number one, recognizes it, and is able to engage in the dialogue. secondly, the president controls the department of justice. what are the the threads thatha exist in community where's thert is the least amount of discrimination? what are threads that exist in communities where there's thee least amount of police violence. conversely, the worst, president of the united states being able to articulate this, being awbl to bring about change. high-profile shootings in albuquerque, my state, my-- albuquerque, my-- where i grew up-- department of justice camem in, made recommendations. they were good reporteddations. they're being followed. look, that's a role that theha federal government can and should play in all of this. >> ifill: gary johnson,
libertarian candidate for president, thank you very much. >> gwen, thank you very much. >> ifill: why do third-party candidates do better in certaini election cycles? we take a look at history to explain america's on-again, off- again love affair. find it on our website, www.pbs.org/newshour. >> woodruff: turning to the republican party nominee-- donald trump, he highlights his business record as an important reason to vote for him.t but a number of his dealings reach beyond the borders of the united states, and questions have been raised about whetherns any would present conflicts of interest if he becomes president. i'm joined now by "newsweek's" kurt eichenwald, whose recent cover story details trump's extensive global business connections. kurt eichenwald, welcome. first of all, tell us how exactly did you gain access to informationtl about donald trumu
business holdings? h because we know he hasn't released his tax returns.ax >> it's not easy. i mean, a lot of it came down to calling business people, financiers all over the world, tracking down people who had done business with crump, finding the names of entities disclosed in his financial disclosure but that have no description of what they are.ar and from that figuring out who partners were, what their entities were, who the peopleop were in charge, and then linking everybody together.yb >> woodruff: so you write that never before has an american candidate for president had so many financial ties with america's allies and enemies. how extensive is it? >> it's-- it's huge.ug i mean, it basically traces into virtually every major non-european yawr of the world. when you have someone who has
conflicts of interest in india and azerbaijan, in russia, in cheena, in turkey, in-- you know, the list just keeps going on and on and on-- in the philippines. i mean, there was a point wheret i just had to stop because i couldn't keep-- you know, i only had 5,000 words to tell this story, and the number of conflicts would go on-- fill ana entire issue of "newsweek." " >> woodruff: what's an example of a w conflict? among other things, you sayr donald trump is not a builder. b you call him a "licenser." " what does that mean? decade oror the last so, donald trump hasn't been building anything.il he's been on "the apprentice" and he's been selling his name, sort of like hilton hotels sells its name. and so he's been basicallyly selling his name out to people who will pay him without, apparently, a lot of due diligence into who these people are. i mean, a great example is he
has a deal right now with a fellow in azerbaijan whose father is a major government official who has been identified by american intelligence as money laundering for the iranian military. so you have now donald trump, if he's president of the united states, he's got conflicts in azer pijohn, and-- azerbaijan, and he has somebody, whose business partner's father, is linked to some pretty bad things. what does he do? what's his interest? how does's he approach it? >> woodruff: you also right about a businessman in turkey who is very close to turkey's president, erdogan. >> yes, and that created a serious problem because that developer was able to bring erdogan out for a dedication of the trump building-- trump was there-- and then donald trump got up and insulted muslimste around the world. w
there was basically protests in turkey. the turkish president, who was already on the verge of facing a coup, was getting pressured. p he came out, condemned donald trump. heed condemned the person who ws doing business with him. that individual has been indicted. and what i have been told is t that the turkish president is saying that if donald trump is president, the united states,ni because of this whole episode, the united states will not be allowed to have access to a turkir airbase that's a major staging area for the bombings of isis. >> woodruff: now, the trump, campaign says-- and you make note of this in your updated story-- they say if he becomes president, he's going to cut all ties with the trump organization. why doesn't that aleavate any concern about a conflict of t interest? >> trump's too smart a businessman mott to know thatha he's lying on this one. o you know, you start off, he's
had three explanations.d one is that he's going to put the company in a blind trust. a blind trust is something where you take a portfolio of investments, give to an independent person, who then handles your trading and your transactions, exu never knowu what's in it. well, trump is saying, "i will put this one company in a blind trust." he knows what's in it. it's that one company. there's nobody independent managing it. it's his children. when he says he'll sever all ties to it, you can't have a company where you're getting financial benefits, your children are getting financial benefits, and your children are running the company and say, "i have severed my ties on it." third, trump is going into this-- he's not going to suddenly lose all his memory. trump knows who his business partners are.pa the rest of the world doesn't,s but trump knows who all his business partners are.ar he knows what the conflicts ares
and if he gets into office, he h will be sitting there fully aware of every conflict that exists and what decision will lead to profits for his family, even to the detriment of the o united states national securitya >> woodruff: well, assuming all this still exists, if he's elected, what would he have to do then to eliminate a conflict of interest? >> the the only option is you have to sell the trump organization. if he-- if he is truly dedicated to what he's saying, he can sell the trump organization. his family can take the money and start a new real estate empire, should they choose, ands all the conflicts are gone.go but they have made it very clear that they are not going to do that. in fact, trump's daughter, who is now going to be a major official there, has said, you know, we'll decide not to make deals that might present national security or foreign policy problems." p which, of course, raises the question, how are they going to
know? is donald trump going to share classified information with his family? is he going to share foreign policy plans? and even worse, are they saying they could have fuggured out that their business partner in azerbaijan was connected by family to money laundering in iran. of course they can. they're not going to knowir whee they're having problems and where they aren't. >> woodruff: well, it is a significant piece of reporting, kurt eichenwald from "newsweek." thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> ifill: stay with us. coming up on the newshour: how to parse truth from lies in the digital age; and an inside look at the brand new national museum of african american history and culture. but first, in the aftermath of this week's bombings in new york and new jersey, scienceey correspondent miles o'brien
looks at the ways police departments are coming to rely on bomb-disarming robots. it's part of our weekly "leading edge" series. >> reporter: as the pipe and pressure cooker bomb plot unfolded and unraveled in new york and new jersey, police deployed some remotely operated tools aimed at saving the lives of civilians and bomb squad technicians alike. in new jersey, a reminder of the hair-trigger risk that they face in harm's way. ( explosion ) at n.y.p.d. bomb squad headquarters on city island a few years ago, lieutenant mark torre gave me a demo using the same robot, the remotec andros f6a, built by northrop grumman. >> its primary mission is to put distance between our technicians and something of a hazardous nature, because distance in this business is always your friend. >> reporter: in this scenario,o, it is believed there may be an
explosive in this car. and it is much more than a hypothetical. it's what happened in times square on may 1 of 2010. a street vendor discovered a smoldering, abandoned car filled with propane tanks, fertilizer, gasoline and firecrackers. it was a saturday evening.in the busiest time of the week, in one of the busiest, and most iconic, intersections in the world. >> between the theory, and the symbolism, the congestion and it would be just the media central for new york city. you can't get much better of an' background for a terrorist. >> reporter: mitch silber was n.y.p.d.'s director of intelligence analysis at the time. he shudders to think what would've happened if the car bomb, built by pakistaniwo american faisal shazad, had not been a dud. >> it would ripped the car in half, and this is a very busy intersection.
depending on the congestion of people right around the car, certainly, it would kill people, injure many others. and it would have been the first big terrorist attack in new york city since 9/11, since 2001, nine years earlier. >> reporter: so, if he was justs a better bomb maker, it would have been a horrible event. >> absolutely. >> reporter: in fact, a few months later, the f.b.i. built an identical car bomb and detonated it, to see what could have happened. ( explosion ) a scary thought. instead, in times square, the n.y.p.d. bomb squad deployed its andros robot and did pretty much what you are about to see. >> bomb squad is called, a perimeter is set up, and we are now going to use this robot to approach this vehicle and take a look at what's inside. >> reporter: detective james r schutta operated the robot from a safe distance. >> we are not in sight of the
vehicle.>> the key to successful robot operation is that he can do the entire job without ever seeing what the robot is actuallyei doing. it's all done remotely via use of the cameras. >> reporter: but this robot is more than just a remote controlled eye. it is able to get inside the car to take a closer look. the robot fired a 12-gauge blast through both windows. >> and that's what we call a perfect shot. w now it becomes a game of manipulation where he's going to maneuver the robot until we get a better view of what's inside. he took out both windows. now we have an opportunity totu look in both sides. >> reporter: in this scenario, the robot discovered there is indeed a bomb inside the car. >> we try to put ourselves in the mind of the bomber. the bomb itself really hasal remained the same throughout the years. it's what sets them off that set
them apart. the more sophisticated triggering systems, they're difficult to defeat, and that's a concern to us, but again, we a always try to stay one step ahead. >> reporter: remotec robots are also used by the military to defuse bombs, but also to kill insurgents hiding in alleys. in dallas in july, that same tactic was used by police. a robot blew up a cornered sniper who had taken aim at white police officers, killings, five of them.f it was unprecedented in u.s. law enforcement history. but dallas police chief david brown told cnn he had no regrets. >> i'd do it again. d i'd do it again to save your officers' lives. >> reporter: but experts who track the evolution of technology used by the military and law enforcement worry that an important threshold has been crossed, without a national debate on the ethical issues. the question is, is it going to
be viewed as an anomaly, or isis it a precedent that will be followed more widely? peter w. singer is an expert on unmanned and robotic weapons systems. he says it is inevitable local police will increase their useea of robots. >> the question is not, "are police going to be using robotic systems?"em it's, "how?" in what manner? how will they be trained to use them? how will they be regulated? will they be armed or not? if they're armed, will they be lethally armed or with non- lethal weapons? w the issue has to involve not just the police, but also the populace, the people that are to be protected and served by the police and the tools, including the robotic ones, that they use. >> reporter: the devices used in new york, new jersey and dallas all still have human beings in the loop, driving the robot, making the decisions. but as robots become moreot autonomous, defining some clear
rules of engagement will become a more urgent concern for law enforcement and the public. miles o'brien, the pbs newshour, new york. >> ifill: online, how worried >> woodruff: we are inundated bb data, whether we are at work, school, home or play. but how to make sense of it all? that is the focus of the latest addition to the newshour bookshelf.s jeffrey brown leads the way. >> brown: "it ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble, it's what you know for sure, that just ain't so." mark twain said that. and imagine what he mould make of the internet, whereer everything is available and we're sure we know so much. but do we?
the can daniel levitin, a neuroscientist and bestselling author of books, including "thii is your brain on music, and "the organized mind." dan, welcome to you.ou your starting point, we're bombarded with information. but it's harder than ever to know what's true.s >> we're making more and more decisions every day. i think a lot of us feel overloaded by the process. as you say, it's getting harder and harder to know when you find things on the internet what youn can believe and what you can't. and there isn't really anybody doing it for us. u >> brown: and you see this everywhere. you go through both data, numbers, and-- well, everything, right? >> yeah. i mean, it's-- it's in facebook and in statistics and in thingsi that politicians say.an and it's in headlines. it's in representations that a salesman might make to you. it's everywhere. >> brown: it's clearly annoying you as a scientist. you just don't like this word. w >> i like a world where each of us has tools to be awbl to make-- able to make our own
decision. i don't think i'm always right but i empower people to come to sound conclusions using a systemic way of looking at things. >> brown: you give a bunch of examples. a very simple one is the pie chart, right, of a polling, we're hit with for a the lot of times. this happens to be fox news.ew in 2012, it could probably be from any time, any network. n tell us what we're seeing here.h >> the first rule of pie charts, jeff, is you're taking a pie.ie you're dividing it up into pieces. the pieces have to add up to 100%. >> brown: right, that's the idea. >> and as you see here, they don't. you can imagine how this happened. the kind of people who become graphic artists may not be mathematically inclined. so you end up with things like this. >> brown: you can also look at that and say-- i'm trying to imagine what-- maybe people were asked-- they were told they could-- they could favor several candidates, right? >> well, that's right. >> brown: somehow that's not
shown in what we're looking at. >> "who would you support in the upcoming election, "and you're allowed to name more than one. you get something like this that add up 100. in that case, you shouldn't use a pie chart. it's visually deceptive which might lead you to conclude the wrong thing. >> brown: another example, onee truth hiding another, a less-favorable truth. this is showing apple, and tim cook, the c.e.o., talking about sales that actually went down, right? >> yes. >> brown: but he didn't want us to know that. >> this is one of my favorite. what do you do when you have something-- a case like this when the thea sales have goneon down and a graph would clearlya show it? well, you create a cumulative sales dpraf, with as long as you sold only one unit, the graph is anything to appear to go up. but if your sales the quarterua are down, you can hide it this way, and that's what he did. >> brown: now, the biggeste source of information, of o course, in all our lives now isw the spirnt, right?h and you right about-- i think you call it an anti-skepticism
bias. we believe so much of what comes to us on the internet. now, i wonder why. you're-- you're a neurosift. i mean, what's going on to make us not skeptical enough? >>, you know, i don't really know. i mean, part of it is that when we've learned something, there's this thing called "belief perseverance." having learned something, woe tend toso cling to that belief, even in the face of whping evidence to the contrary. new information comes in all time, and the thing we ought to be thinking about doing is changing our beliefs as that new information can comes in.es >> brown: that's what critical thinking means. >> i think so. we need to take a step back, and realize that not everything we encounter is true. you don't want to be gullibly accepting everything is true, t but you don't want to be cynically rejecting everything is false. you want to take f your time to evaluate the information. >> brown: at the end of the day, don't people-- don't we
have to trust institutions or trust somebody? >> well, we do. d of course, science is based on this. i've never seen a proton or electron spinning around it.ar i've never actually seen a chromosome. i trust that they exist because people who i trust tell me they do. >> brown: yeah. >> it does come down to that.t but we can be skeptical, suitably skeptical. and we can trust news out wills-- some more than others. i mean, society functions because we trust one another. i trust that my plumber knows what he's doing, right., i think we need to be armed with the critical thinking skills that lawyers, scientists, and journalists-- such as yourself-- have, and we all need those to make our way through the day. and they're not that hard to acquire. i think they can be acquired in a couple hours.e >> brown: before i let you, i, want to go back to the mark twain quote. i read it. i started the segment. and you tell us at the end of your book-- and i'm going to
tell our audience. that was not said by mark twain. t >> right. the quote ain't so. and it's a wonderful example of how we believe things thathi aren't so. i agree with the sentiment that it's probably more dangerous to believe some things that aren't so, than to not believev something-- you know, to believb in a lie. and in the fact checking for the book, i went to find-- as you do-- i went to find the original source. but testify nowhere to be foundn in any of twain's writings. w >> brown: so mark twain didn't say it.ay daniel levitin lied. the the newshour lied.ie but butt we've now set the record straight. >> which is how things move forward. >> brown: the book is "a fieldl guide to lies." daniel levitin, thank you very much.toit. >> thanks for having me. >> ifill: finally tonight, the
jewel of the smithsonian museum opens on the nation's mall thisu weekend. president obama will dedicate the national museum of african american history and culture, which has been some 100 years in the making. i took a look at how the a unprecedented collection came to be. joyce bailey's legacy turned out to be worth more than money. her mother, lois alexander lane, left her a treasure trove from the museum she created, the harlem institute of fashion: costumes-- dresses sewn and worn by slaves, celebrities and byby civil rights icons. >> one of the things i think people are surprised to know, or to remember, is that rosa parks was a seamstress. >> yes she was. she was actually carrying theg dress that the museum now has, on the day that she was arrested. it's a beautiful yellow with brown stripes in it. and it's really beyond belief. you really just have to see it. >> ifill: beginning this weekend, thousands of peopleus will stream into the brand new
national museum of african american history and culture to see elements of bailey's collection and countless other priceless artifacts. there is this-- an airplane flown cross-country to the museum, once piloted by the all- black tuskegee airmen; the casket of 14-year-old emmett till, lynched in 1955 for whistling at a white woman; the writings of abolitionist frederick douglass; shackles discovered on a sunken slave ship that brought hundreds ofds slaves to america; and, from a south carolina plantation, a fully restored slave cabin. the dress marian anderson wore when she sang at the lincoln memorial, and costumes from "the wiz," the all-black broadway musical based on the wizard of oz, donated from joyce bailey's collection.on this is as an amazing place: chock-full of the expected. and the expected.pe
one thing missing: major artifacts from civil rights leader martin luther king, jr., whose family apparently decidedh to hold on to some of his mosts famous memorabilia, including the bible that president obama used to take his oath of office in 2013. in any case, it fell to museum director lonnie bunch and hisdi band of curators to sort through what turned into a rush of donations. >> when i saw them, i said, wehe are going to tell that story. and i just love, from "the wiz," i just love how they look; iw just think they're so s distinctive. they obviously speak volumes about geoffrey holder. >> ifill: the designer. >> the designer. plus, they're just so beautiful. >> ifill: it was a big moment at the time. >> absolutely. >> ifill: from sobering memorabilia like rebellion leader nat turner's bible, to 20th century musical memories, like chuck berry's cherry red cadillac, and parliament funkadelic's iconic mothership-- here lit up and sheathed in plastic in preparation for the opening. >> during concerts, it would come down, and george clinton
would get out, so it'd be this notion that he was from anothere planet. >> ifill: which he kind of was. >> which he still is. >> ifill: the $540 million project-- a century in the making, and the first green museum on the national mall-- captures the sweep of african american history. so what do we have here? >> this is one of my great treasures. what i love is what my staff is able to find. and this is a playbill from newcastle, england in 1857 that is from ira aldridge's career. ira aldridge, the great black thespian that couldn't get jobs in the united states as a great actor, classical actor, had toss go to europe. >> ifill: othello, who everyone now thinks of as a character always played by a black actor. >> exactly. but it was always in blackface. >> ifill: galleries are devoted to breakthroughs in sports, and performance. >> the joy of prince, and i love the michael jackson fedora, just capture that. and obviously the soul train costume. >> ifill: soul train costume is a little alarming. i >> it is. because we thought that was cool. >> ifill: we, i don't know aboul we. speak for yourself. bunch, a former president of the
chicago historical society, shepherded the project to completion, wooing congress for half the money, and soliciting private donations from millionaires like oprah winfrey and philanthropist david rubenstein. but he also appealed to individuals, families, churches, fraternities and sororities, who handed over gems like james baldwin's inkwell, and malcolm x's tape recorder.m advance tickets flew out the door-- 5,000 of them in 18 minutes, one day. in this journey you have been to get to this point with this museum, what has been the biggest surprise for you alongt the way? >> i think i've been stunned by the excitement and the way people really care. there are times i'll walk in an airport and people will just sort of give me the thumbs up, or i'll walk down the street and church ladies will come to me and say they're praying for me. so i think the fact that this means so much to so many peoplea has been the biggest surprise for me. >> ifill: as with other
smithsonian museums, one building cannot begin to hold its collection. conservator antje neumann has helped preserve the collection at the museum's facility in a washington suburb. >> there's always the balance between preservation and exhibition, and allowing the public to see the national treasures, and then also balancing that with preserving it for future generations. it's lovely to have a place to highlight the struggles, the causes and the progression that many people-- and the contributions-- that many people have done in this country. >> ifill: it falls to neumann to repair shaquille o'neal's size 20 shoe, to prepare a stool from muhammad ali's gym, to restore worn pages of the first book off black poetry, and, to spiff up funk singer bootsy collins'' bright yellow leather costume. >> it just needs a little bit of cleaning in order to make it ready for presentation, as it has been used a lot on stage. >> ifill: collins' outfitll
occupies a place of honor inside the new building, which is a work of art itself. "the corona", the signature exterior feature is made of 230 tons of bronze-colored aluminum panels, 3,600 in all. lead architect phil freelon oversaw the building's striking design:w : >> many of the buildings on the mall are marble, granite, concrete, lighter in color. this building has a variation in how it appears. on certain days, on certain lighting conditions, it can be very vibrant and bright. and other times of the day or evening, it is darker. so there is this interesting dynamic of changing appearance of the building. >> ifill: within view, the washington monument and even a glimpse of the white house, which first lady michelle obama famously noted was itself built by slaves. bunch says this makes race an integral part of the american experience.
but in this country, we are so nervous about talking about race, about engaging.ab we keep having national conversations about race, and ie seems that this building itself is a big conversation. do you-- did you encounter along the way, any resistance to the notion that we talk about americans only by race? >> i think there was fear that we would be a place that mighte be divisive. that people wouldn't want to talk about race, and that wee would force them to talk about race. i think there was a great concern that, would this just bo a museum by black people, for black people? and i think we had to counter that, both by the kind of stories we told, by the way we tried to say, this is a story of america through an african- american lens. >> ifill: joyce bailey's mother could not have foreseen thisn day, but she did see the value of preserving black history. lois alexander passed away in
2007.le leaving her daughter with a window into history.nd >> ifill: but weren't you a little emotional about letting it go?a >> i was very happy about letting it go, because i knew my mother's legacy would continue. >> ifill: curators think about legacy too. lonnie bunch is still looking ahead.ea >> i want to make sure that curators 50 years from now can tell the story of today, if that's what they want to tell. so i hope this museum willis continue to evolve, continue to change, because it really has to be a place that is the great convener, that can bring anybody and everybody into a conversation around race. >> ifill: from ground breaking in 2012-- >> there are few things as important and powerful as peopll in the nation steeped in its history. >> ifill: --to open doors this week. america preserved. america celebrated. right in the nation's front yard. >> ifill: online, you can watch our full, extended interview with museum director lonnie bunch. all that and more is on our web
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