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>> rose: welcome to the program, i'm charlie rose. the program is "charlie rose: the week." just ahead. republicans is fail if and every to repeal and replace obamacare. president trump at the united nations announces a new axis of evil and dame judy dench plays the queen, queen victoria, in victoria and abdul. >> no one really knows what it's like to be queen. >> mother. >> are you spying on me? >> what is the point? >> rose: we'll have those stories and more on what happened and what might happen. funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and
information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: and so you given how? >> force of life. > >> rose: is it luck at all? >> i think she was interested in those subjects. >> rose: what is the object lesson,. >> direct engagement. >> rose: teleme the significance of the moment -- tell me the significance of the memo. this is the way from the addressed the united nations with harsh words for north korea, venezuela and iran. and one last effort to repeal the affordable care act. and hbo's big little lies and hulu's big little lies were the big winners at the emmys here are the sights and sounds of the last ten years. >> lendingary new york journalist lynn yah roth has died of 99. >> the damage so widespread some are wondering how they will ever
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axius and newsletter. friday afternoon as we tape this that john mccain has announced he will vote no. what are the implications of that for the graham-cassidy bill? >> charlie as you know, this is a very dramatic moment, almost certainly kills the graham-cassidy bill, named in part for senator mccain's close friend senator lindsay graham. the bill could not lose another vote and most of likely will go down. the amazing thing about this charlie the republican leaders once again got themselves out on this limb. i don't know how many times republican leaders need to put their hand on the health care stove to learn this is not going to have a happy ending for them. senator rand paul a hard no, senator mccain hard no, susan
collins a likely no, and lisa murkowski, of alaska no. he did this with no joy but the line in there that was so memorable and going to provoke a lot of conversation here in washington is very consequential for where our country is right now. he said that he thought something this big needed to be done in a bipartisan way.needed to include both parties. and here is the key line in senator mccain's statement, he said that wasn't really tried. but charlie there was another huge issue here. and something that a hole that i don't think republicans were going to dig themselves out of. and that was, the jimmy kimmel factor, the abc late night host, in very personal terms talking about his own childhood had fought and said that this bill broke a promise to him, by
republican senators that they were going to continue to cover preexisting conditions even for people whose last name isn't kimmel, who can't afford the millions of dollars it might cost for some of these surgeries. for the third night in a row he has talked about republican leaders who had not been honest in this bill. even this might be a first chearm on a light -- charlie saying on a late night tv screen, the telephone numbers of the senators, the fact check that jimmy kimmel was right, that's a tough thing to overcome. >> rose: if tax reform is the next order of the day and the president decides to negotiate with schumer and pelosi is there a tax bill that will be signed by the president? >> yes yes and yes.
the big question is whether or not it will include democrats. it is possible to do it only with republican votes, such a treacherous path and the white house is very optimistic about getting some democratic senators who are up for reelection in trump states to join with them and that would both give them probably the margin of victory but also would allow them to say that this was not a republican-only bill. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> rose: president trump was in new york this week for the opening of the united nations general assembly. he focused on a new axis of evil, venezuela, iran and north korea. he followed this up on thursday by announcing the sanctions aim of halting north korea's nuclear program. joining me with a reaction to
the program is lise doucette, the bbc's chief international correspondent. everybody wans to know could this thing spiral offer into some accidental war? >> nightmare scenario isn't it? you're dealing with a leader to be kind who is unpredictable, who is determined to -- >> rose: against united states and north korea? >> both of them. i think they were shocked by -- but again it is a measure of the way the world is now with people falling into different sides. >> rose: no one's on the north korean side not even the chinese not the russians, there's no one on their side. >> but when president trump used the podium of the united nations to call for the complete destruction of a country i mean everyone went to look at the history books to say the first time that someone has done this, is this illegal for him to do this? >> rose: but let me just, that question, particularly what the president said or defend what he said, if you know these
things that you have threatened to do if you do them will destroy north korea.now we have said to the iranians, it is unacceptable for us for to you have nuclear weapons. that's the same thing we are saying to the north koreans and they're further along perhaps than the -- certainly than the iranians were. we're saying the same thing to both countries did we not? >> yes. >> rose: the president says if you do that if you threaten us we want to negotiate, he said that we want to negotiate we want to do this peacefully but we cannot allow you to have nuclear weapons and icbms that can threaten our cities and if you do we will destroy you. it's more that than simply saying we're going to destroy north korea. >> no, he said he hoped that the united nations would do its job. >> rose: exactly. >> and if it didn't in other words if negotiations didn't find a way out, then therefore the united states would have no other choice. he was very -- he wasn't -- the
problem i think people have sai- >> rose: and it's more the rhetoric than it is the reality. >> war of words have a way of ratcheting up the tension and the last thing that's needed in north korea now is tensions. for months charlie, people far more expert than i am sitting in this chair saying, do i want to put options on north korea because the sanctions aren't working. rex tillerson warranted to say we need to look at options. anything militarily you are doing in the north is going to have a direct impact on the south. if you take out north korea you are taking away parts of south korea, not many options which is why he keeps firing off these tests, which is exactly why people like the french president emmanuel macron, and don't tear up the iran nuclear deal, it's
the most important deal in the last quarter century and the most extraordinary for international diplomacy. you never get the right one, a perfect one, but iran has been stopped -- criminally for at least ten years. >> yes, i think that's what's worrying some, these sunset clauses. but i think europe has reacted to president trump's speech when it comes to the iran nuclear deal by saying this is our deal as well. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> rose: on sunday, two of america's most popular musicians will headline an effort to raise money and awareness in wake of the violent protest in charlottesville, virginia. it is called a concert for charlottesville, an evening of music and unity. i spoke on friday afternoon with pharrell williams and dave
matthews. >> i just think that we as a country we need to open our eyes and there are people who say what, why are you making such a big deal, world sight? if you are not african american, you don't understand what is like to be african american in this country. it may look and feel like i'm successful but if i'm only enjoying it and there are millions upon millions upon millions that are not i'm not successful. i'm successful when we're all successful. and being from virginia, i know there's systemic racism. i've seen it growing up. and we just -- when dave's camp reach out, i thought it was a great opportunity to sort of turn on a light to get people to understand, like, this is a very
real thing. and you feel like you can relate. but you know what? when you go to bed, we're still black. we're still dealing with this. i'm african american. that means africa is in me. but america means this is where i am. this is -- this is what i'm subject to. >> i was talking with pharrell earlier and talking about listening to you, too, about what this could be. and that this should be not one event that says hey, you know, let's shine a light on what's possible, and the truth of a future that incorporates more honestly everybody, let's -- and let's also acknowledge the terrible racism and bigotry that exists in this country. and the true history of this country. but also, that this should be something that goes on. that we should be doing -- we should be acknowledging and
celebrating this into the future. because the only way we can change the way that this creeping fearful hateful racism -- only way can stop it from continuing to grow or continuing to exist or continuing to murder people, innocent people and keep people from being able to do what they want to do in their list of or having the advantage of what they want to do in their lives we have to shine a light on it, shine a light on bigotry honestly. we have to say what is our past, what was slavery, who build harvard? who built the warehouse, who build uva? was it thoms jefferson? he had -- thomas jefferson? he had a pencil but what brilliant crafts people, what amazing people, talented people
did that? where are their names listed? we need to look at our past and see that not only was slavery the subje subjugation of peoplea great effort but also in my opinion my humble poa opinion bt was a lie that we tell ourselves that the people that were the birth of of this country that somehow were supermen that built an economy by themselves. they didn't build the economy that allowed this country to be what it is. without being on the backs of thousands of people who did not get acknowledged. >> what dave and i are trying to do it's just lying bringing the culture together so that we can talk and be realistic about these issues. you know when you have a president that says these beloved statues, these statues represent a time when people talk about a heritage. a heritage of what?
much people that wanted to fight to keep slavery, you know what i'm saying, so like people complaining left and right complaining like kaepernick taking a knee during the national an them, you know, you say there is a time and place for everything, you're right. there is a time and place for everything. the time is right now, the place is right here. ♪ ♪ >> rose: the vietnam war ended more than 40 years ago. it cost the lives of 58,000 americans, 3.4 million vietnamese. it divided the country like no conflict since the civil war. a new film by ken burns and len nocick, looks back at the ten part 18 hour documentary series airing on pbs. >> no month so than in the civil
war but also here which is the opposing sides, once you've separated the policy, once you've separated the strategy and the tactics and the plans which go out the window the second the firing starts, then you're dealing with human beings you have asked to do terrible things on both sides and they become very similar to us. what we've enjoyed is sharing this with our veterans and who go, we showed this to john mccain, all we thought was the north vietnamese what they felt, or the guerillas, that point of combat where none ever us who haven't experienced it have no idea how vilified life is, but sometimes the very, very best of us. where is the ultimate dehumanization of the other? in order to fight a war you have to create a one dimensional
portrait of the other. >> rose: so you're not nervous pulling the trigger to save a colleague. >> exactly. what happens is you get into war and all of a sudden you begin to see that this pact that you have toik mat with the devil, there's gaps tonight. and you can see the other side in his case and the americans as well. we have a marine talking about how scared he was and how much he respected and hated all in one breath the other side and the american colonel, who said i'd like to have 200 of these, they're the best soldiers, and the interviewer, said are you making an error? he says yes, charging charlie beckwith, holding offer for days and days, merrill mcpeek, i
have great respect for those who kept open the ho chi min trail, i was proud i was able to. >> it's available in vietnam and hundreds of thousands of people in vietnam are watching it as we speak. and there's great interest there. >> rose: the ierchy, we have come to very good relationship with vietnam. >> we have potentially -- >> rose: sorts of an ally in whatever competition we have with china. >> but the largest thing is they are as conflicted as we are. >> rose: viewed as a war of independence. >> yes but they have a whole southern population where a lot of people have been not involved, they haven't figured out how to strategize, which means they have those 3 million casualties and they are agonizing could we have done it
better, could we have done it with negotiations? i think in the same way that we're struggling, they're struggling in perhaps the fact that our two countries have come together that americans visit there that love the americans, think are an entrepreneurial sort of forward-looking people, they represent not just an economic but a potentially strategic partner for us. you could sort of wish we could skip to the reconciliation part right away. sneets ♪ ♪ >> rose: dame judy dench is celebrating her 60th year of work in the police officers and stage. it focuses on the unlikely friendship between queen victoria and ab dul abdul carr .
her servant and teacher. >> you give the relationship. >> you certainly do. she certainly does i'm sure she had it for other people. we laughed quite a lot actually. >> rose: where does she stand in terms of the memorable characters you have portrayed on screen either fictional or real? >> i never know. i do it and he tells me how to do it and i get up and do it and then i see it and then i want to change it. >> rose: we'll get to him in a moment. (laughter) >> rose: tell me how you see her. >> when i see her in terms of the fact had i had an opportunity to play her 20 years ago. so i've done that kind of homework and then thought that i knew the story about her then very, very surprised, to find that there she was in her 80s.
as she says, all her friends dying and still the weight of sovereignty on her shoulders very much so. god knows we feel it in our 80s more and more difficult every day to have to carry out her duties. and then quite suddenly, this 81 man turns up. >> whatever you're doing you must not look at her majesty. >> that feeling that has always been in her, that kind of huge zest for not perhaps for life, but for enjoying somebody's company. at ease from everybody else suddenly it was reawakened. >> rose: what paid him interesting as a companion to this powerful queen? >> as i understand it, she liked him standing behind her because it made her look good. i think she was interested in the subjects, suddenly a man
appeared from another part of the world which she was empress of india by then and this idea of learning urdu arrived. i'm only guessing. >> rose: what was it like? >> he was such a good looking man. >> rose: what was it like? they liked each other, they could talk to each other? here was somebody that was at ease around her. it's slum. what i liked about if book was the empire was so ridiculous. somebody who wasn't powerfully part of it. shoats ♪ ♪ ♪ >> rose: i want to let you know about our new digital series, called off the table. it is a place where our guesses are able to field one last question. you'll be able to see it on facebook, youtube and instagram.
comedian samantha b off the table. >> how do you break into an all boy's country club club like late night? you have to demonstrate stick to itiveness, you have to kill everyone in your way, you have to suffer a tremendous amount of (bleep) along the way and somehow stick with it and someone has to believe in you. maybe more than just one person. maybe like a whole bunch of people have to demonstrate great faith in you. and you have to have incredible connection to the right people. >> here's what's new for your weekend. the i heart radio festival runs all weekend at the t-mobile arena in las vegas. episode 6 of ken burns and lynn
novack's are the vietnam war premiers. >> and we continue the ask what happened, the vietnam war. >> and emma stone and steve karrell star. battle of the sexes. based on the match between billie jean king and bobby riggs. and here is a look at the week ahead. dave matthews band hosts a benefit concert for charlottesville. at charlottesville, virginia. former congressman anthony weiner is sentenced in his sexting case. and paris ready to wear collections. and wednesday is the day insurance companies must sign up
to offer plans ton health care.gov website. thursday is the first day of the new york film festival. friday is the opening day for the state fairs in virginia, georgia, and texas. saturday is the timing day of the federal government's fiscal year. -- is the final day of the federal government's fiscal year. >> rose: that's "charlie rose: the week." for this week, from all of us here. thank you for watching. we'll see you next time. for more about this program, visit us at pbs.org and charlierose.com. funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by: captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >>
>> rose: welcome to the program. we begin tonight with mike allen and a look at the week in politics. >> the amazing thing about this is, charlie, that republican leaders once again got themselves out on this limb. like, i don't know how many times republican leaders need to put their hand on the healthcare stove to learn this is not going to have a happy ending for them. so senator rand paul of kentucky, a hard no. senator sno john mccain a hard . susan collins of maine saying likely no, and that's enough to kill it. the other vote that was in doubt as you know senator lisa murkowski of alaska. look at the fact checks of the bill, dig into the policy of this bill. this was going to be, of all the different versions that have come up, this was goto