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laura: this is "bbc world news america."rt reg from washington, i am laura trevelyan. president trump lashes out at democrats and the whistleblower over impeachment.re the coman he accuses of treason fires back. pres. trump: i think the whiseblower should be protected if the whistleblower's legitimate. >> this is a blatant effort to intimidate witnesses.em it is an incent to violence. laura: a new brexit plan is rolled out prime ministeris johnson insays a deal can be done ays, but will it have the backing of brussels? plus, their reportinarvey stweein helped spark the me too movement we hear from the two investigative jonalists who gave victims their say. laura: for those watching on pbs and around tg onlobe, welcome to "world news america."
it has been another whirlwind day in washington. house democrats and the president have been squaring off over the impeachment inquiry, hurling accusations record pace. democrats leading key house committees say they wibp na the white house by friday if they do not get the documents they requested. president trump has lashed out, olling the investigation a coup and suggesting ohis critics may be guilty of treason. it should have been a routinehe visit byresident of finland to the white house, but at theesident trump center of the impeachment drama, there was nothing routine about today. pres. trump: very important man to have so much ess. laura: the president is furious with democrats for investigating his phone call with ukraine's leader and the suggestion that b may have abused his pow asking for dirt on a political rival. in the oval office, he let rip. pres. trump: i think the whistleblower should be protected if the whistleblower is legitime. he either got it totally wrong, made it up, or the person giving
the information to thehe whistleblower was dishonest, and this country has to find out who that person was because that person is a spy. laura: events are ung at whiplash speed, with democrats threatening to subpoena the white house unless they get thet docuthey demanded on ukraine. chair of the house intelligence committee adam swaiff had this ing for the white house. rep. schiff: the president wants to make this about the whistleblower and suggests that people who come forward with g evidence of his wrongdoe somehow treasonous and should be treated as traitors and spies. this is a blatant effort to intimidate witnesses. it is an incitement to violence. laura: it's ing reported that the whistleblower first took his concerns about mr. tmp abusing power to a house committee aide. much to the disgust of the tresident,tu who is trying to rn the tables on mr. schiff. pres. trump: it shows that schiff is a fraud. that is a big story. he knew long before any help to
writ -- and he helped to write it, too. laura: that is not true, says lathe whistleblower's er, but ohe president is returni his tried and tested playbook lashing out at accusers. a brief time ago i spoke to anita kumar, white house correspoent for h politico. the president is clearly very angrth how much o is related to the fact that the white house is facing a subpoena for documents by the end of this week? anita: i think it is everything. i think he is getting more and more angry as this goes on and he sees how serious it is. there are people close to the white house who say he does notz rehow serious this would be an all that it would entail. every day there is a new request for doments and requests for people to come forward and talk to congress, and that is upsetting to him. laura: you have covered the president closely. you were with him at the united nations last week. how did you see his mood change? anita: i was struck at it was onhe seven days and last wee was subdued and monotone and
quiet and very different than we usually see. he is usually what we see. but today it was completely diffent. not even like himself. he is very angry, mu more angry, and using curse words. we don't usually see that. very blu language. he is always blunt, but this is up a notch. it is rlds apart from last week. laura: tonight "the w york times" is reporting that the whistleblower to his concerns to an aide of the intelligence committee before taking it to the inspector gteeral of the igence community. the president has seized on this. does it change the dynamic at all?an anita: as you just said, it's another thing from president trump to say, look, adam schiffo and the ats knew all about this and he even said that they helped to write this up, this whistleblower complaint. if you talto democrats and ople on capitol hill, they say, no, we did exactly what we were supposed to do. this person came forward and we told him or her, i don't know, too what is normal, the
ocols -- go back to the inspector general and get this up the chain of command, and then we will see how it is. thpresident is using this an excuse to blame them some more. laura: witnesses will be deposed by the impeachment inquiry this week. kurt volker, former envoy to ukraine, is one of them. how significant will all this bg even tit is happening behind closed doors? capitol hillca is.now how [laughter] it i assume some of it will get out. you saw secretary of state mike pompeo saying he did not want people to testify, or att east t. we will see how eally are this week. you mentioned olker, who said that he would come forward and testify. one of the things going on is that it has been the president against this anonymous whistleblower. this will show what other people did and what other people knew, and the more icomes t, the more it will bolster the congressional case. laura: speaker of the house nancy pelo was always a little
anxious about embarking up have her anxieties been borne out by what has happened, by the fact that there such a enzy? anita: i think that listening to her and other people aher that this shifted a lot of things, not just in her mind -- this means ukraine, the call to ukraine'president -- but she saw members of her caucus really shifting and saying that this is significant, i'm ready to go forward. she saw these new polls coming out. a moricans want to start impeachment. i think she is feeling that, oh, these were where she was taking her cues -- she was looking at her caucus and what the erican public were saying, and they are in h favor on this. laura: meanwhile, the president has raised more than $100e million siis all began, so his supporters are clearly with him. anita: they clearly are. i talked to a lot of his supporte and people close tors a the white house that work for
him and left and worked on the campaign, and they see this as the russia investigation, they say that it is exactly the same you couldn't get him on russia so you are trying to get him on something else. se.they don't see it as very t different and they think even more significant because now it is coming as he is starting his reelection campaign. laura:nita kumar from politico, thanks for being with us. anita: thanks r having me. ura: iner news from around the world, in iraq, securit forces are clashing with antigovernment protesters for a second day in baghdad and other cities. the south. have en killed in demonstrators are angry at the lack of jo and public services and widespread corruption. u.s. presidential candidate bernie sanrs is recovering from surgery. he had two stents inserted for a blocked artery. he was taren to hospital on tuesday after suffering chests in las vegas. he is said to be chatting and in good spirits. former dallas cop amber guyger has been sentenced to 10 years in prisonor fatally shooting
unpleasant she's -- in his home. she said she mrmisto botham an's apartment for her own. presented the eu with a new plan designed to end the brexit deadlock. the question is will it work. boris johnson wants to ditch the idea of northern ireland staying in the customs union temporarily anhas called for compromis but the initial response frome n brussels is not positive. here is the bbc's political editor laura kuenssberg. laura k.: 70 days into office, a man in a hurry.er a ma of hours before he will know and we will know if he has a chance of getting a differenh deal we eu. if he ought to be nervous, it didn't show. the dag of this this hall for years, now their prime
minister. leader here, but with no control of parliament and no w of predicting what will come next. hi next target, with humor and less hostility, parliament itself. prime min. johnson: if parl show, the whole lot of us would've been voted out of the jungle by now. but at least we would have the consolation of watching the speaker being forced to eat a kangaroo testicle. [laughter] laura k.: with friends and fami laughing along, labour's position of holding another referendum on the eu was next. prime min. johnson: a second referendum on the eu! can you imagine another three years of ts? but that is the corbyn agenda, stay in the eu beyond october 31 and pay a billion pounds aonth for the privilege. laa k.: he is determined t get us out of the eu, but how? .there is so much hostili prime min. johnson: this is not an anti-european country. we are european. we love europe.
i love europe, anyway. today in brussels, we are tabling, i believe, a constructive and reasonable proposals which provide a compmise for both sides. we will under no circumstances have checks at or near the border in a northern ireland. we will allow the u.k. whole and entire to withdraw from the eu with control over our own trade policy from the start. yes, this is a comprom the u.k., and i hope very much that our friends understand that and compromise in their turn. laura k.: in a lette-cto jeude juncker, the prime minister laid out what he describes as a fai reasonable compromise, spelling out a replacement for the controversial backstop, the guarantee against the hard border in ireland, promising solutions compatible with the good fridaagreement to protect the peace process. the plan would create an
all-ireland regulatory zone where goods and agriculture in ireland would follow eu rules. but the northern ireland assembly wld have to vote to approve that plan and every four years afterwards. there would have to be some new customs checks, carried out electronically or on business premises. no new customs posts. and there is a committment nevei roduce checks at the bordrodu but the vital response from ireland? wait and s. will all that be lost in translation? a guarded response from the eu. angela merkel said, "we will examine the proposals closely, but it is important the eu stick together." even if they say yes, will mpsvo it through? >> it is worse than theresa may's deal. i cannot see it getting the support he thinks it will get. t it will take us into a regime in laura k.: although crucially,
the tories' nortrn ireland allies seem to be on board. >> we believe that this is a serious and sensible way forward wto have engagemeh the european union and a way that allows us all in the united kingdom to leave the european union, and therefore we will be supporti this plan. laura k.: but if those talks, cannot get goi the proposals have no chance for the eu, then boris johnson would have no hesitation taking us out of the european union without a deal, even though rliament has changed the law to try to stop him, this crowd would push ho to d somehow. prime min. johnson: let us be in no doubt of what the alternative is. the alternative is no that is not an outcome we want. it is not an outcome we seek at all. let me tell you, my friends, it is an outcome for which we are ready. after years found his place oner
the coveted platform leading his how long he will stay there depends not on the show of faith from thi crowdbut on a leap of faith perhaps in brussels. laura t.: our political editor laura kuenssberg reporting on what is next for brexit. you're watching "bbc world news america." still to come on tonight's program, the duke and duchess o, sussex end their tour ofa, southern africeading home amid a legal battle with a newspaper. laura: police in hong kong say they have made hundreds of arrests following the most violent clashes seen yet in more than four mof political turmoil. they have fired 1400 rounds of tear gas and 900 rubber buets. stephen mcdonell reports from e scene. stephen: there is bleak news out of hong kong in terms of the escalating level of violence. y especialesterday on the 70th anniversary thear commonest --
communist party coming to power in china. the latest we have heard is tt an indonesian journalist has st the use of her right eye. she was hit in the face, ity seems, ba rubber bullet in y recent days. in terms of other injuries, 104 people were taken to hospital and two of those are in critical condition.cl that does not ude the young activistho was shot in the chest. he apparently is now in a stable l condition, although stil intensive care. and he hasn't been officially charged with anything yet. by the police have defended the use of that firearm. they say the officer shot while tempting to reach another police officer who had gone down attacked by a group of activists who had homemade weapons, and they were hitting him. he moved in to try and help his
comrade and was being hit himself by apol at the time and that is when he fired his weapon. in terms of the arrests, 269 people have been arrested following the violentye clashes erday. 100 said -- 187 of those work - 178 of those male, 91 female. and the age difference is quite remadiable. the age range goes from 12 to 71 , according to police. laura: the me too movement has had a deep impact on the united states and many countries around the world. when stories of sexual abuse by film mogul harvey weinstein first broke, it opened the floodgates for so many woman to come forward and tell their
stories. from the very start, "new york times" repor megan twohey were on the case.mi their work o the pulitzer prize -- their work onwon them the pulitzer prize, and in their new book "she id," a chronicle the investigation andh they joined me ajohort time ago. , these rumors about harvey weinstein have been circulating for years. how hard was it for you to get women on the record? jo: e reason we wrote th book is because these events have come to mean so much to so many people, we wanted to take you behind the scenes and actuly show you what happene for a long time it was all off the record and we could not tell anyone. we take you into these hushed conversati actresses who were very nervous to tell their stories. but acally talking about how to get that done is at the basis of our partnership. i didn't know megan when sts ination started. we spoke on the phone very early on. she was on maternity leave giving me some advice.
we talked about how to approach these women, and she suggested an argument at said, look, i can't change what happened to you in the past, butf we work gether, we may be able to take yourle terience and put into some constructive purpose. so that became the sort of case we were making two woman after woman. laura: interesting, but you were coming up against these agreements that women signbasically payoffs. that comes up again and again in the book. how did you get around that? megan: one of the things wewa ed to do was pull the curtain back on the machinery that wasn place to silence men, not just accusers of harvey weinstein, but women in sexual-harassment and sexual-assault cases around the country aneven around the world. one of the things that often happens is that when women are violated, they want to do something about it, they are steered into sret settlements, in which they accept money in exchange for silence. weinstein had done as many as 8
settlements stretching1990 up through 2015. these were things that allowed him to cover his tracks time and time again. we realized that if we could actually expos cthat financi trail of payoffs, it would help illuminate the alleged wrongdoing. laura: harvey weinstein himself did not take kindly to your reporting. he was very threatening, wasn't he? jodi: there were certain threats, legal threatsimgainst the " made to our fas, and then there was what was s.happening behind the sce the truth is that we were less worried about ourselves than our brave sources. erybody had something to lose. the big stars were worried it would tarnish the reputation. the women who were not well known said "nobody has heard of me, how could i go on the record about this?" later we found outhat the degree of manipulation he used was quite extensive, which we
think in the end speaks to the bravery of theources. laura: did you ever think that your reporting would lead to this movement, megan? megan: we had no idea. all we knew at "the new york times" in 2017 was that we were committed to covering sexual harassment in a variety of industries, not just in hollywood but in silicon valley, the restaurant industry, the comedy industry, power plants io chicago. there were no guarantees that aneof these stories would h an impact. in fact, a couple nights before the story published, jodi and i shared taxi back to brooklyn where we live and we said we have to step away from the story and we turned to each other at that moment at 1:00 in the morning -- we paused to wonder, do you think anybody will read this story?am these arg the behind-the-scenes moments that we are able to share with readers. laura: you are both mothers of girls. do you hope that this has changed the culture, your reporting? jodi: i think we are like every other parent out there and we want our children to be treated with dignity and respect.
forward, which we try to address in our work, is how can it be that so much has changed and so little has changed at the same time? laura:ight, and to your point, in the book you write about christine blasey ford, who accuses brett kavanaugh of sexual harassment from when they were teenagers, but he stillrm gets con to the supreme court. did that feel as though nothing d changed? megan: we didn't want to stop g our reportinth a harvey weinstein story. we wanted to push into the year at followed as the me to movement took off in earnest. we came to see christisey ford as one of the most polarizing figures in the me too era. people watched her testimony and ame people thought she wa hero and some thought she was a villain. when we were able to ptoce ther the behind-the-scenes story of her private path to testifying in washington, we realized it was so much more complicated than either side knur. but her experience, though, do you think it will deter women from coming forward? jodi: you know, you might think
that was the case, but we founds the opposite. the last chapter of the book is about an unusual group interview consisting mostly of women who had come forward.ca one wh forward about donald trump. ashley judd and gwyneth paltrow. former weinstein atants. a mcdonald's worker who fought harassment at the company. and christine blasey ford was there, and so was rowena chiua never co forward. victim who had even though dr. ford was talking about difficult experiences innt thatview of coming forward, of being criticized, of to her, rowena chiu stillteningg cided to go on the record for this book, and what she said at the end of the day is "i'm not would let this pass away without anyone knowing about it." laura: jodi kant, megan twohey, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. laura: the duke and sussex are flying home from
their tour of southern africa tonight, with "mail on sunday" paperromising to vigorously defend itself against legal action by the couple. esthe du is claiming breach of privacy after the paper published experts of letters she wrote to her father last year. our royal correspondent nicholas witchell reports in johannesburg. nicholas: it has often been a heaught relationship betwe media and the royals. tstories and photographs m sell papers. so as the sussexes, harry and meghan, visited johannesburg on the final day of their tou the cameras were there in force. he is particularlyou sensitive abintrusion, exercised about protivting his family's pracy. we all know the reason. ooere were so many moments in harry's child when he came ea resent the media for th trtment of his mother, diana.
little surprise, perhaps, whennt s such as this are recalled. but in last night's statement about the tabloid media, he aboureferred to the obsessive pursuit of her. "i see what happens," he wrote, "when someone i love is t commoditizthe point where they are no longer treated were seen as a real person.real i lost my mother, and now i watch myife falling victim to the same powerful forces." at no point during the day was there any public reference to the court action begun in the past couple of dayagainst "the mail on sunday" or harry's broadside ainst the tabloids in general. there was, though, this observation. prince harry: we will firmly stand up for what we believe,d will do everything we can to play our part in building a better world. nicholas: in her remarks, meghan indicated how much the visit meant to them both. meghan: thank you for giving us the opportunity to meet with you to be able to feel inspired and for welcoming us.
as: they headed hoft a meeting with south africa's president. back in london they will face the prospect of a very public battle with "the mail on sunday." if the ase does go to court, it will be a defining moment for them, the wider royal family, the popular press. nicholas witchell, bbc news, johannesburg. ura: meghan and harry coming home aftenda successful trip and facing a great big row with the tabids. member, you can find much more on that story and all the y's news at our website, including the latest on our lede connection with the rising tensions between democrats and republicans over the impeachment inquiry and at president from said to the leader of ukraine. plus, to see what we're working on aany time, to make sure to check us out on twitter. 'm laura trevelyan. thank chu for watg "wor announunding for this presentation is made possible by... the freeman foundation;
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