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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: a pause in the fighting a cease-fire between turkish forces and kurdish fightersar apto take tentative hold. then, flight risk. revelations that boeing employees knew of the 737 max's problems years before two fatal crashes. plus, the artistic achievements of native american women have been long overlooked. a new traveling exhibit looks to change that. >> this exhibition was really necessary a non-native context because it had never been explored bere. it was stunning, becse
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>> woodruff: the battleground in northeastern syr appears to be quieting tonight. a ceasefire between turkish trying to take hold, afteris ing off to a rocky start meanwhile, president trump's decision to withdraw u.s. troops from syria is bringing more bipartisan condemnation on capitohill. senate majority leader mitch mccconnell today wrote an opinion article for "the washington post" calling the decision a "grave mistake." amna nawaz has our report. >> nawaz: thick plumes of smoke billowed above the syrian border town of ras al-ayn this morning, hours after the ceasefire officially began. activists and syrian war monitor said turkish troops shelled kurdish forces, but reports from the scene said the attack subsided by midday. in istanbul, turkish presidentp reyyip erdogan denied any fighting had continued. >> ( translated ): i do not kn where you receive information from, but according to the ones
i get from my defense minister, there are no ongng clashes. all of these are speculations >> nawaz: and in washington, president trump also said, after speaki with erdogan, the cease-fire was holding. >> there was some sniper fire thisorning. there was mortar fire this e rning th was eliminated quickly and theyck to the full pause. >> nawaz: mr. trump also claims that the five day ceasefire will save "millions of lives". the turks cast it as a complete victory that grants th a 20- mile-wide so-called "safe zone" in northeastern syria free of syrian kurdish figers and stretching to the iraqi frontier. erdogan insisted today, what happens next is up to the kurds and the u.s. >> ( translated ): if the united states is able to keep the promises it gave us, the issue of a safe zone will have been resolv. but if this promise is not kept, our operation will resume fromt where it lf in an even
more determined way. >> nawaz: already, u.n. chemical weapons inspectors are investigatg reports that the turkish military used white phosphorous munitions this week, severely burning a numr of children. in brussels today, the head of the european union council donald tusk called for turkey to for good.ly halt its operation, >> this is not what we expected. in fact, it's not a ceasefire. it's a demand of capitulation of the kurds.la >> nawaz night at a rally in texas, president trump likened the turkish offensive against the kurds to children sqbbling. >> sometimes you have to let them fight like two kids in a lot. you got to let them fight and then you pull them apart. >> nawaz: but that fighting has also triggered another humanitarian crisis in syria. the united nations' refugee agency reports some 166,000 civilians, many of them syrian kurds, have fled the violence. aboua thousand of the displaced crossed into nthernir
. >> ( translated ): we don't trust turkey and the ceasefire agreement.ey re talking about a ceasefire while the bombardment is still going on.: >> nawck in washington, defense secretary mark esper said today that cos. forces are inuing their withdrawal from northeastern sia. and, he said the troops will not be helping to enforce the turkish "safe zone." atmeanwhile, secretary of e mike pompeo was in jerusalem, eting with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. pompeo sought to reaffirm u.s. support, en as president trump vows to reduce the overall american troop presence in the middle east. for the pbs newshourm amna nawaz. >> woodruff: in the day's other news, several more republicans w druff: mr. trump faced discontent in republican ranks after acting white house chief
acknowledged the president did tie military aid for ukraine to an investigation ofe dmocrats. mulvaney later denied any "quid pro quo." but today, repubcan congressman francis rooney of florida cannot sply erase his initial comments-- or, as he put it: "it's not an etch-a-sketch." >> whatever might have beebegray and unclfore is certainlycl quitr right now that the actions were related to getting the ukraine to do some of thes things. >> woodruff: another prominent republican, former ohio governor john k supports impeachment.w we'll talk to him later in the program. >> woodruff: boeing is facing new questions about whether it was up front with fedefety regulators over the grounded 737 max. at issue are instant messages om a boeing pilot who says he unknowingly lied to officials about a new flight-control system.
that system is now linked with two crashes that killed 346 people. am'll examine this in full, later in the pro in lebanon, thousands of protesrs turned out for a second day, angry over a proposed tax hike and economic chaos. crowds in beirut faced off with police, demanding the government resign. later, the police fired tear gaa anr cannon as prime minister saad al-hariri appealed for reforms. >> ( translated ): i personally gave myself a very short time for our partners in the government to give a clear and final answer that will convince those who are expressing their anger. all parties should make the decision to reform and to stop overspending a w corruption. druff: hariri said he was patting a deadli of 72 hours for his coalitioners to agree. more than half aillion people rched in barcelona, spain today demanding independenan for catalonifreedom for jailed separatists. lyst crowds mafohed peacef
the most part. but later, a few hundred masked youth set trash containers riot police fired iths. rubber bullets. boin eastern afghanistan, exploded in a mosque during frid prayers, killing at lea 62 worshippers. hospitals in nangarhar province scrambled to treat the wnded, including children. it underscored a u.n. reportvi that afghan ans are dying in record numbers. there was no immediate claim of responsibility for the bombing. backn this country, the brother of the president of honduras was convicted in new york on drug trafficking charges. antonio hernandez smuggled more than 200 tons of cocaine into the u.s. since 2010.hi brother, honduran president juan orlando hernández, was labeled a co-conspirator but was not charged. in chicago, public school
a second day.ed picket lines for schools stayed closed for more than 300,000 students in the country's third-largest public school system.th wiore than 26,000 teachers on strike, union leaders reported some progress in negotiations.ig mayor lorifoot said there needs to be more. >>e put a fulsome, comprehensive offer on the table and as i've said now for many iweeks they need to respo kind with a comprehensive counteroffer. and we need to be at the table every single day seven days a week at least 10 hou g a day until a deal done. >> woodruff: lightfoot said the d school district has offe 16% raise for teachers over five years, ps smaller class sizes. a tropical storm is threatening the southeastern u.s. after forming in the gulf of mexico today. it is expected to make landfall
early tomorrow before moving across southern coastastates over the weekend. president trump says he will nominate dan brouillette to the next energy secretary. he is now deputy to secretary rick perry, who plans to leave the post by year's end. perry said today his departure is not related to the ukraine issue. and, on wall street, stocks closed out the week on a down note. lost 255 points to close average at 26,770.th nasdaq fell 67 points,e and p-500 slipped 11. still to come on the newshour: lrunning for cover as car gunmen clash with security forces in mexico. flight risk: new details on when
boeing employees knew about their plane's deadly flaw. a conversation with republican john kasich, who's now saying president trump should be impeached. mark shields a david brooks break down all the week's major impeachment news. and much more. >> woodruff: the mexican state of sinaloa erupted into violence thursday as police captured, then released, the son of drug kingpin jouin "el chapo" guzman. the failed raid has called into question the mexican government's ability to contain drug violence.ex nick schifriores what this says about the capabilities of the united states' top ally in the fight against illegal narcotics.
reporter: the descent into chaos played out on social media. a phalanx of mexican security forces deploy to a neighborhood controlled by the y-werful, locased drug cartel and capture theitarget: ovidio zman lopez, who now runs the family business built byis father, known as el chapo, mexico's mosinfamous drug lord, now in a u.s. prison. ( music ) but then, the cartel called in the cavalry. with music blaring and phones filming, gunmen with machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades raced to the rescue. they deployed a 50-caliber machine gun that's so heavy, it's attached to the back of a truck. ( gunfire, yelling ) and the yhem began. for more than four hours, cartel militia members and xican soldiers fought in the streets n.and paralyzed culiacá the violence left vehicles burning and dead bodies in the middle of the city, in t middle of the day. ( gunfire ) for residents, it was absolutely terrifying.
they fled for their lives, this woman carrying her baby in her arms. and on a nearby road, a father shields his daughter. "daddy, can we get up," she. as >> no, mi amor. >> reporter: "no, my love," he says. >> rapido, mi amor. ( gunfire ) r orter: this level of violence is stunning even in a country known for violence, and it's never happened in this city. here in the capital aloa state, the sinaloa cartel, long led by el chapo even when on the run from mexican and u.s. tythorities, controls the and keeps the peace. >> reporter: and as residents searched for safety and the gun battles mounted, the cartel tooa soldiers hostage. and that's when the government released the kingpinhey'd captured, having achieved nothing except for the death of eight people. today, mexican president andres manuel lopez obrador defended the decision to retreat. >> ( translated capture of one delinquent cannot be worth more than the lives of people. >> think what happened in culiacán was a big mistake for the lopez obrador administration
on all fronts-- tactic strategic. it evidences t contradictions of his efforts to pacify the country. >> reporter: denise esser is a mexican political analyst. she calls the operation a copy of lopez obrador's predecessors. in 2006, nly-elected president felipe calderon officially declared war against the cartels. they publicized their spoils, parading kingpins and weapons and showinoff contraband. e operations weakened the cartels but also set them against each other and ireased overall violence. in 2014, 43 students went missing after they commandeered a school bus to get to a protest.y, every anniversemonstrators call to end the violence, andst that ftion helped get lopez orbador elected. he promised to be different. >> ( translated ): you can't fight violence with violence,
you can't put out fire with with evil.can't fight evil >> "hugs and not bullets," he says. and what happened yesterday simply shows that the mexican state and his mexicagovernment in particular are failing at thr mission to pacify the country. he is simply reproducing the failed strategy of his predecessors, which was to go after drug kingpins with the hopehat that would dismantle cartels. and all it produces is further violence. >> reporter: sdiers launched the raid with no arrest warrantn apparently no plan for extraction.by and failing to achieve their objective, the cartels become stronger, dresr argues. >> the more that the lopez obrador administration proceed with these ill-conceived attempts to seize drug kingpins and then backs away, it's sending the message to cartels that they can basically do what they want. >> reporter: today in culiacán, they saluted the caskets of slain ofcers, and police
families grieved for the f husbands ahers who'd been killed. but they were also angry. ( yelling ) ley shouted down the loca governor, saying he had sent their family members to the slaughterhouse. he vowed their deaths would not be in vain. >> reporter: but today, the kipin is free and the cart still runs the city. just as it did yesterday. for the pbs newshour, i'm nick schifrin. boeing has known for several months there were concerns being raise bilo pi about te 737 max's safety. it's leading to questions about whetr boeing mled the f.a.a. amna nawaz has the story.
>> nawaz: the messages in ngestion were sent by a bo pilot back in 2016, more than two years before a pair of fatal airline crashes involving the 737 max. those crashes in indonesia and now, an automated flight control and anti-stall system known as mcas is at the heart of ongoing investigations. when the system was still being certified in 2016, the pilot messaged a second piying the system was difficult to control inlight simutions. in one message, he wrote: "granted, i suck at flying, but even this was egregious." boeing has insisted there were no serious problems during that certification period. but the head of f.a.a. wrote to boeing today, asking why the company had not told the government about these messages months ago. david shepardson of reuters broke this story and he joins ms now. welcome back to "newshour". >> thanks. at the time of theif ceation process in 2016, what role are the pilots
supped to be playing. their job is to cojonvince the f.a.a. the system is safe under a variety of different simulations, tests, various flight patterns, and during this period, they uncovered, appears by the messes, more problems with the mcas system than they were aware. this system was designed toe address sue that bigger planes, more fuel efficient sould stall and tend to push nose to the ground. boeing has said the system would russian operative operate in the background, pilots tneed to know about it and it wouldn't be in the manua the tests suggest there were more concerns raised about the system than we knew about. >> do we know how the conversation got to here, if it got reported i up and went to boeing expensive? >> we don't knw. the justice depstartment, f.b.i, inspector general, there are a lot of reviews looking at this question. we know there are a lot of
concerns raised in a couple of reports about how the f.a.a. delegates much of the responsibility for cing the planes to boeing itself and, as a result, congress is saying we need to take a look at the process. should boeing need to do the work of certifying the plane the a.a. is responsible for. them right now?ust finding about >> it goes back to tissue of the justice department. so boeing turned these uments ar've now learned over to the f.b.i. in feb and there's some concern about whether other reasons why, if the f.a.a.'s role or d.o.t.'s role in thatif ceation is being investigated. is that a legitimate reason for boeing not to turn those over? f.a.a. said we need the documents, we're trying to review, ensure the new mcas, when this plane goes back into service, operates properly, and we need to see everything. t question is are there other documents and more shoes to drop, other concerns about the system.
>> the real heard of it is the question about what they knew about the m kaz system based on what they know about the roll it played in two fatal cash crashes, right? >> absolutely, the issue is about the fact the system misfired because it got conflicting data from the sensors on the outside of the airplaneha that had thed additional safeguards like the ones the f.a.a. is demanding now, potentially coulnthave pre the two crashes. >> nawaz: the f.a.a. says it's not lifting the grounding on the 737 maxes untilmihey det they are safe to fly. do these earlier concerns complicate the process in any way?nl >> it's certaimore bad news. we saw this week that southwest airlines, the largest operator of these planee have dlayed their fights till february, her u.s. airlines aren't until january. the house of the transportation committee says these suggest the f.a.a. needs to masure boeing is being up front, that there
aren't any more unresolvedsu . every deadline had been missed. we're still waiting for a certification flight first, and that's at least another month or six weeks beyond that, the earliest the preen c go bak in the air. it's certainly not good news. remember, the public has to be confident they can go back on the airspac that's pobably the bigger issue, will the people go back on the planes once the f.a.a. gives the okay. >> there will be testimony on capitol hill. what are sme of the key questions you think need to be answered now? first, dennis lost hi title of chairman one week ago today. he will be asked a lot of questions. how comeo one at boeing has been disciplined or fired as a result of thi is it really your position boeing did nothing wrong?i publicly they our only goal is to make a safe plane safer. that's theueyestion that will be asked, did boeing make mistakes, was this a preventible
tragedy? what exactly did boeing know about the key safety system? did regulators know enough and do the whole syem of how planes certified to be operate rated need to be changed. >> nawaz: do you expect more message? >> another ten page of e-mails tonight went from the f.a.a. to congress fmeom the sailot involved in these -- in the internal text messages, so that sheda little more light. they're not as explosive as we've seen s far. but i think between the f.b.i., the a.i.g. and others, more is going to come out about what exactly did boeing knowrn intely during that period. >> nawaz: we'll be following the reporting for sre. david shepardson of reuters. thank you so much foinr here. >> thanks. >> woodruff: former ohio governor john kasich served in public office for over threede de
but in his new book, "it's up to us," he calls on the american people to pay less attention to the president and the dramas in washington. instead, kasich urges individual americans to focus on the ability each one has to move a their communit the country, forward. governor kasich, welcome back to the "newshour". >> always great to be with you. uff: i want to ask yo about the book but first news of the day. you've made news yourself. you've said today that you've now come around to view that president trump should be impeached by the house ofes retatives. why is this. >> well, first of all, judy, i thought there should have been an impeachment inquiry from the beginning. in fact, i think the democratsot should have a in the full house on the inquiry. it gives it credibility and transparency and i think that's very important. what was hautging me up abhe call that the president made to the president of ukraine was was there a quid pro quo, and there's so much going on in this
drama yesterday with sondland and text messages between him and taylor ando vlcker, those had me greatly concerned. woodruff: different diplomats. >> , we all thetimes. sut wh mulvaney said it' absolutely true that we withheld aid until they agreed to go back and do an investigation of the 2012016 election, withholding ad from a country like ukraine that lives inhe shadow of russia, has troops on their land, there's no excuse fort. tha >> woodruff: as you know, inough, mick mulvaney said, then, he said agoday, hey, there's political infence in american foreign policy, get over it. in fact, the trump campaign is now today selling t-shirts with "get over it." >> well, look, it's one thing for a pre tsident to be ab pull aid from a country baseon public policy, but it's anotherl thing to say -- toangle aid, vital military aid over the heaa of a ntion that's fighting literally for their survival.
so, based on politics, based on you've got to go do t g investigation we want. and we don't want any president to do that. and i don't come to- thisis is really, really hard for me. it's a really sad day for me. i don't want to have to be doing this, ut when i look it, and i have responsibily to respo to questions, i felt this was absolutely the right thing to do. i feel good about what i've said but i'm sad at the same time. >> woodruff: as you know, though, john kasich,p president trid -- again he said it again last night, i'm unconventional, i do things in a different way. why isn't he, in his words, allowed to do things in a way we've never seen before? >> well, because there's appropriate ways in which a president should conduct themselves in office, keeping in mind that there can't be things like an abuse of power. everyone's held accountable. if the president had said i'm not going to give any money to ukraine because i threink the too much corruption, that would be okay with me, but to say i'm
going to withhold this aid untii you do whant you to do politically, which is wh the chf of staff said yesterday, and no matter how hard they try, they can't take those wordsth back, becauset gives us a window into the way they were thinking there. 'r>> woodruff: so you saying if you were in the house yu would photo for featured. >> i would. >> woodruff: which is aat ent of charges. what about convicting him? >> i would like to see what tarls of feach -- the articles f peachment arewhatever the house comes up with, and i think so it's important for democrats to bring the republicanslong. now that we're so partisan, republicans have to ask themselves, is it right for my president to dangle foreign aid for the survival of the untry in a quid pro quo that you need to investigate either your political rival or some political manipulation or political investithtion? i thinanswer is, no, we have to have guardrails in whicn
our pres and leaders have to operate. >> woodruff: so are you ready to say he should b removed from office? >> i want the process to go forward. for me to say impeachments as hard as it gets for me, and that indites, i think, there's t enough the be able to do that, but that's the job of the senate, and we all have to slow down and let this process take its place. >> woodruff: there are so few republicans in congress, virtuaiy none who agreeth you right now. why so few? >> well, you know,gain, it's tribal. we want to protect our guy, and what has been amazing to me is. they're not even saying that that phone call wasng wroand they won't say, of course, they wantve an impeachment inquiry, but when a mas majority of americans are saying this is necessary, we need to get to the bottom of it. t tomorrow is a different day, more people testify, there are more wnesses, everybody will have to judge for themselves. i'm nogoing to beat anybody up
to having the opinion i have. it was so hard for m ve toote to impeach clinton when he was up, i struggled with tht but decided to do it. this is not the area of government i like to focus on, have our responsibilities to do and say things that, even when we have to get out of our comfort zone. >> woodruff: your book is about "don't focus so much on washington." the title is "it's up to us." you're saying the americanav peoplethe ability, they have the obligation to themselves to try to makethe country better. >> live life a little bigger than themselves. we all have certain ts. you have them, the people m, they arave th given to us and we're expected to be heeclers in the world, not dividers, and we have to get out of our silos. we need to put ourselves inop other 's shoes and we need to take care of things where we live. that does not mean sometimes those actions don't evolve int bigger things like greta thunberg who held a sign and
created a global movement or thn people in parkland in florida who pushed gun control through the flori legislature, through there are also stories about people, one girl lives in illinois, she was five years old when hurricane florence was coming, her name was florence. she told their mom, they're not going to like it seems t me bece is floren and that strm is terrible, i've got to get band aids. she and her little brother collected supplies ahey filled the garage. they took a tractor-trailer to north calina. did she change the world is thio sh certainly did. >> woodruff: what do you say to some 60 million pople who voted for trump in 2016, many who told us and others i voted for him because i wanted change, i did n't like what's going on in washington and i thought he would bring change. >> thehave to ask did he bring the change he promised. are there nor st ael mil cars made, more auto plants open, and how do i feel about the rhetoric?
you know, this whole busess of bullying, to some degree, i've had people argue who work in schools that somehow bullying has becomeore acceptable. look, i don't like this, judy.k i don't e to have to say these things about our president, but when i look at it, when i look at the scale of his policies and the behavior that divides us, smation to be done about it. but that's not why i'm for impeachment.i'm for impeachmentf what i think is the quid pro foreign aid and putting other nations at risk. >> woodruff: john kasich, former governor of ohio, former congressman. the book is "it's up to us: ten little ways to bring about change." >> it's for us, the middle age and the young and our seniors. uf
>> woo stay with us. coming up on the newshour, a new exhibit puts an overdue achievements of namerican women. and an astronomical milestone: the first all-woman space walk. and to the analysis of shields and brooks. that's syndicated columnist mark shields and new york times columnist david brooks. welcome to both of you. so let's pick up, mark, with my conversation just then with johi . he said he reluctantly has come to the place, after hearing andi following what's n in the last couple of days, thattr presidenp should be impeached. now, he's only one of a very fec repus, but do you see, given all the events of this week, the testimony before congress, what mcmulvaney said yesterday, that this argument for imachment is getting stronger? >> yes, it most certainly is, i'd say right that two dozen, maybe three dozen housean republwill end up voting for impeachment at the current
velocity. >> woodruff: in the house? in the house. i don't think there's any question about it. you can fe it. just put yourself in the shoes of trying to be a defender, a supporter of the president, you wake up on an hourly or daily basis, almost hourly now, you're hit erth another thult. what is it? it's foreign policy, its mick mulvaney in a condescending, antagonisting, stupid -- he understood why he's never been a spokesman and never had a press conference before -- harmful. you can't defend the prsoesident hat republicans are doing if i'll notice led by fox news is attacking democrats is what they're doing. ere's no defense in it. so i just think you can feel support shrinking. >> woodruff: how do you asss this? >> yeah, i mean, if your defense was there was no pqu quo, it's pretty hard to stand on that ground right now. what we've learned in e last two or three weeks is the
transcript we heard severals weom now is true. for me if you read the transcriptthere was a quid pro quo. now we have testimony from fionahill, deputy of state for ukraine, it was quid pro quo, that trump was doing this, separate policy run by trump and giuliani bpassing the formal apparatus and witnesses testify that, mlvaney puts thean exion point. if that'what you see, you vote for impeachment. john kasich has been the number republican party is here, congressman rooney is here, but so far there aren't many others and i'm skeptical you will see testimony republican senators. >> woodruff: what is the argument republicans are hanging their belief to?
you're just alluding to this, that this is not an impeachablee offense. is it ine president sayi'm unconventional? we're always asking foreign countries to doomething for us. >> i think right now it's a position in search of an argument. they know where they are because they know where their voters are and th're terrified of their voters and they've got to findfo rationalizatiowhere they are. is seems to be the most rational rationalization, the president is defending the country's interests and the media is to get him.at the argument. the republicans are the ones that have to move. >> woodruff: if david's right, mark, even if there's an impeachment vote in the house, the senate --not the votes in >> think where we were two week. this thing is moving at a pace and velocity i don't think any of us could have predicted.
after this week, i mean, we haven't even talked about the cave, the capitulation. david mentioned doing this in the national interest, i mean, we saw a demonstration to have the national interest this week. i mean, there's ano waynybody could look at that and have confidence in this man let alone -- >> woodruff: talking about syria. e>> talking about syria, abandonment. because just think, think, if you were souodth koreaay, all right, you're surrounded on one side, you hahina a menacing force not that far off, you have noh korea a certified mman open your border and what have you relied on? the good word, the trust, the honor to have the united states of america, and we saw that just absolutely trashed and abandoned this week in te middle east by the president. >> woodruff: david, let's talk about at. i mean, this decision, it came sort of out of the blue, people didn't know about it and we learned the president had given,
the administration said it wasn't a green light, but the turks have gone in and they've been given permissionly basic by the u.s. to control that >> there's never been a minute he could pick out where a bad decision was made and blunder came middle east, the results came rightay aand it was a total win for erdogan and the turks, total win for syria and russia because the turks get to do their ethnic cleansing,ia the sy get to go into the region, the russians have been trying to get into the region, now ey get to walk into the region, the iranians have a proxy. so the score was erdogan, zero for trump and the united states. this is shocking not only the incompetence, and the letter written to erdogan could have been written by a kindergartener. it didn't look like an official government letter. then the moral calloryeces
about having no remorse about the deaths and cleansing, i think thiswi combineth impeachment is what shakes people. this is a more shocking event, and it ges against a generation of republican and american foren policy to be afo stabilizing force in that region and also a sign -- i think this is the only way i c see yo really get some erosion from thn republide, is a lot of republicans think, well, we had kelly there for a little while, mattis was there for a little while, we had sane people controlling hime controls are gone and this guy is spinning wildly out of cotr, and i think that could be a conclusion people would reach. >> wchdruff: in fact, mrk, w reported tonight we learned mitch mcconnell, senate republican leader, has written washington post" saying it was a grave mistake what the president did. t every day that mitch mcconnell separate himself from the president like this. >> no, certainly isn't. i just think it's quite serious. i think republicans i talk to
are, frankly, nervous. they're nervous about the governorship in mitch mcconnell's home state. losing that, about losing bot houses of the virginia legislature. these ey,ections, judre basically ten days away and, you know, it's really -- and they are concerned that they lose arein in louisiana, thes red and purple states that they're losing. if donald trump is thereare they going to go into 2020 blissfully having sustained enormousosses in red states in november of 2019 and watching this happen? this is truly -- the turks said we've got everything we wanted, the easiest negotiation we' ever had, you know. erdogan took the president's letter, put it in the trash can, but he's not forgetting what was in it, don't be a fool.
i don't know how at any point you could dfend, explain, poll and get four morrs of this.ard >> woodruff: you mentioned 2020 and, once again, daid, it looks as if the democrats are being overshadowed but they had a debate this week al 12 on stage. what's the shape of the race? >> this is why republicans hang with trump because they look at the democratic debates and say anything but that. we're writing off biden too fast. in the polls, i thire are two frontrunners. biden is still doing well in the polls and has a solid base fr support. warren mas to have an answer for how she'll pay fo the healthcare han, suggested to cost $32 trillion, which meadens th would go up by 60%,
taxes go up by 60%. if you don't look serious. pete buttigieg and the others have an easy lane to go aftuer or making plans that don't make sense. >> woodrf: how vulnerable i she on this healthcare? >> i think she is. when you run it as tell it like it isp , keee big boys honest theme and douin dodge and duck e did aditly or not as to what's the cost going to be and she ands in contrast, strangely ile bernie sanders indicts her. bernie sanders says, yeah, it's you that.cost more and i'l tell i think it's an acknowledgment she is a frontrunner if not a co-frontrunner or the frontrunner by the fact everyone went after he there was a fear she was going to run away with theth race, whether pete buttigieg,r, klobu, o'rourke, joe bien,
they all tried to bring her back to earth. i think it's serious and central to she thinks she's going to get away with that in the fall, or any democrat does, in 2020, that's not going to be the case. as far as joe biden is concerned, i don't think he's had a really good debate, and, you know, he almost had an advantage that she became the lientning rod, elizabeth wa and i think other democrats went a little bit easy on him because of hunter biden, whicis the allegation about his son. it was abutely inappropriate and wrong for the vice president's son to beom involved in a ny he had no knowledge of in a country he had no knowledge of simply because his father was vice president. woodruff: what about bernie sanders, david? he was on the stage. he had the health issue, a heart attack a few weeks ago. he came back and looked vigorous. >> he's still in the race. he has core of support.
whether it can grow beyond what he had last time, it doesn'tem clear. it seems more the energy, more the growth and theterest is on the warren side. i'm interested in how volatile th race could be. usually in the last few months, last month, you see a lot of up wns, a lot of people rising out of nowhere. i wonder if people are payinged unprted levels of attention this year that things are much more baked in. so far we'lyve seen on gradual rises and falls. the final thing i've observed is in the iowa polls if not national polls, pe buttigieg is doing well, the two leaders s around 17. if he's stong in iowa it could set him up for a momentum ride in the comksing wee >> he's definitely a threat. he's going after the biden vote. i thought he had a good debate. i thought there were two missed moment. elizabeth warren, when joe biden
raised the point about id sponsored rokd to get your financial advisory board committee passed by the senate, she should have said thank you, joe, thank you, president obama. and i thought peanut butter looked like he was spoiling for a fight in going afer beto o'rourke. >> woodruff: in addition to warren. >> yheh. it was likad a line with her. amy klobuchar was the most organically, naturally hursorous in the debate which means something to me. >> woodruff: before we go, i want to raise the passing of elijah cummings, someone who served a long time in the ngress, part of the house leadership, had been in the civil rights movement before then. just learned tonight that speaker peloswill have his remains lying in state at the >> a remarkable man, a truly remarkable man. i woulsay a giant. some would say a gentle giant. eloquent.
just a quick little anecdote about elijah cummings. trey gowdy, a white republican from south carolina, fierce conservatives, they crossed swords. they spent time together and trey gowdy found out he had grown up in the same area of south carolina as cummings' family. he said, why did they leave? he said so my children and myself could get anducation. and the the conversation ended up with them both in tears. that doesn't happen in n shington. that doesn't hapere you caricature and have cartoon cutouts of your advesersand just sneer at them. he was that strong a man that could show the weakness andes gentleness of him and he will be missed. >> when freddie gray died in baltimore a few a yeao, he was passionate about the wrong that was done. wh, the riots start he went out with a bullhorn and tried to
calm things done. so strong and respecting order and law. >> woodruff: rememberingem elijah cummings. david broaoks,rk shields, thank you. >> thank you, judy. and now, a look at an art show that is both making history -- and tehing it. "hearts of our people: native women artists" is the country's first ever exhibition devoted solely to the works of native american women. jeffrey brown traveled to minnesota and new mexico to meet with some of the team behind the retrospective. it's part of our ongoing arts and culture series, "canvas." >> reporter: how many artists have a masters in fine arts and studied auto mechanics? meet rose simpson, whose day of making art includes hours coiling clay in her studio, soldering metal pieces for sculptures in her garage, and
spending time under the hood of a ¡64 buick rivierahe's fixing >> reporter: simpson lives and works on the santa clara pueblo ju mexico.e espanola, new her moer, roxanne swentzell, is a ceramicist, as was her time.r-- a tradition through >> i come from a long, long line of artists and creative people. and a long lin i mean, as far as you can go back. >> reporter: not talking ayeut ten or 2s. you're talking about hundreds. >> yeah, i'm talking about hundreds, possibly thousands. >> reporter: "continuity" an seeing "art" as part of daily life, simpson's work is a contemporary take on the traditions of her santa claraad tewa ancestors. and now, she's part of a groundbreaking exhibition, the first of its kind dedicated to more than a thousand years of artistic achievements by native american women. put togeer by the minneapolis institute of arts, where we saw it, the exhibition is called" hearts of our people."
co-curator, jill alberg yohe: >> this exhibition was really necessary in a non-native context because it had never been explored before. and that was stunning becauseme ing that is so clear in native communities was not atve all addressed in the art world. >> reporter: on displa some 117 works of art from more than 50 native american communities across the u.s. and canada, there are traditional pieces like this anishnaabe jingle dress created in 1900 and worn for dancing at powwows, and a hohokam bowl dating back to 1000 a.d... there's also contemporary photography video andti instal pieces like" fringe," a 2007 piece by rebecca belmore tackling the issue of violence against nativl people, partly women. whenever possible, the creators of these works are named. "craftspeople," thbition wants us to see creative
individuals making art. >> i think that the way that the development of collecting native americ art andhe stories that had previously been toldpo are ones thation native women as non-artists. >> reporter: contemporary artists are shown alongside those of their ancestors, highlighting the way nate women's t has adapted while remaining connected to generations past. one example: this towering sck of blankets by seneca artist marie watt entitled "blanket stories," displayed next to a traditional navajo chief's blanket from the 1880s. and then, there's ro simpson's piece: a restored 1985 chevrolet el camino she named "maria." sitting at the show's entrance, it's paired with a large vase by the car's namesake: maria martinez, the celebrated pioneer of the "black on black" pueblo pottery style emulatede car's paint job.
but a car as "art"? rose spson made "maria" herself to use, to drive. plus, she realiz, it holds ings, just like some of her otr creations.ha >>was like my sign in the field. i'm going to paint it like a poi because a pot! this is where there is no disconnect between life and arti >> reporter: nonnect. >> no. and this is... what does art have to do with cars? i'm like, what does ve to do with life! the int is that we've ripped art away from our lives, so, the more i could apply the creative process to every part of my life, the stronger i felt as a person. >> reporter: given the show's size and scope, jill albergh yohe and co-curator teri greeves knew they could not put it together alone. they assembled an advisory board artists-- 21 women in total, native and non-native.
>> reporter: among the advisors, dyani white hawk of the rosebud sioux tribe, a painter and mixed media artist based in minneapolis. this exhibit covers 1,000 years. still, it was so hard to pick the pieces that were going to ge in the show because there's so many that could be. white hawk's work mixes modern techniques with traditional lakota artforms like bead and quillw rk. she says tognition of native women artists is long overdue. >> the vast majority of native arts has been supported by women over generations, but it's an aside. it's a side note in the way that we understand and look at a americ history. it's not a truthful and honest ory to understand the hist and artistic history of this land. >> reporter: simpson also served on the museum's advisory board. for her, being in the show is an
opportunitto open doors for other native american artists. >> it's absolute about changing a mindset, you know? the first step is to infiltrate and then get respect, and then, you know, pull it back the other way. i was handed this baton, right, and i have to go further and really respect it and be responsible with it. >> reporter: and she's choosing to remain in her rural home where she's passing on an ancient artisthe tradition to own daughter. for the pbs newshour i'm jeffrey brown on the santa clara pueblo in new mexico. >> woodruff: finally, tonight, a milestone moment. two american astronauts, both women, stepped out of the the first, all-female spaceor walk. william brangham has more onth
landmark day. >> brangham: the momentin chrikoch and jessica meir began to exit the international space station, floating out to space 250 miles from earth, history-- or "hersry"-- was made. >> right beneath your feet so don't move down. h copy. >> brangham: mene been on every single space walk-- all 420 of tm-- until today. cook and meir's mission was installing lithium-ion batteries to repla the station's battery charger. today, president trump called the two astronauts fm the white house. >> what would you like to tell everyone watching? >> we recognize that it is a histor achievement and we do of course want to give credit to all those that came before us. there's been a long line of female scientists, explorers, engineers and astronauts, and we have followed in their footsteps to get us to where we are today. >> brangham: today's milestone comes months after the first all-female space walk had
apiginally been planned, b that was sd when nasa revealed that it didn't have a a woman.pacesuit that would fit saturday night live had some fun with that one: >> i'm not mad, you know, they can make a special spacesuit for a dog ( laughter ) or special spacesuit for a monkey but a human girl? only one gets toe moon queen. >> brangham: the first woman to walk outside a spacecraft in orbit was russian cosmonaut svetlana savitskaya. that was back in 1984. this was meir's first space walk. she's now the fifteenth woman to do so. she spoke ahead of today's historic mison. >> what we're doing now showsl e work that went in in decades prior, all the women who worked to get us where we are today. and nice thing for us: we don't think about n always been at the table and it's wonderful to be contributing to the human spaceflight program at aime when all contributions are being accepted, when everyone has a role. >> brangham: both meir and koc were selected as part of nasa's 2013 class. that was nasa's first class to
have an equal number of men and women astronauts. nasa says it hopes to put the and this week, they veryby 2024. publicly unveiled that mission's female-friendly spacesuit. for the pbs newshour, i'm william brangham. >> woodruff: got to love it. and that's the newshr tonight. i'm judy woodruff. have a great weekend. thank you and good night. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> supporting social entrepreneurs and their solutions to the world's most pressing problems-- skollfoundation.org. >> the william and flora hewlett foundation. for more than 50 years, advancing ideas and supporting institutions to promote a better world. at www.hewlett.org.
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