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attkisson. welcome to "full measure." this week, the french national assembly votes on extending a state of emergency in effect since november's islamic extremist attacks. s with armed gunmen on the sfamous eiffel tower. ific night became their 9/11ife may never be the same. scott thuman found the fresult and patriotism. -- resuolve and patriotism. scott: paris, november 13, 2015, the sounds of a city under siege. parisians at random -- a crowded theater, packed cafes and match. 130 dead, nearly 400 injured. and a nation that once survi was now under attack by a new enemy, in this case, one that didn't wearike
>> this is paris and i'm an ance of paris isn't just a product of hollywood, it's inherent in ents and picturesque cafes -- captured in the phraof life. but three months later, thean ominous message -- that the bullets pierced both liv. -- the way of life. at the carillon cafe, the site of the first s a careful eye, always alert as to what's around them. >> the big thing now is that they are shorandomly. scott: luc morah owns this downtown restaurant. >> there was basically nobody anymore in the restaurants, so we had, in the initial days after, we had something like
it was really empty. just for dinner? ded a bit, but to say it's back to what it was prior to the attacks would mean more th it would mean a level of comfort here at the bataclan, there are of what happened -- the bulhe fresh bouquets of flowers,t see -- that invisible ay has the most impact. whatwhat might be just around the french are now admitting they have to live with what they call, "the new normal." this is the manager of the grase it's like every day you open your tv and they tell you maybe you're goingre going to die today, and that's terribng is not to know. scott: in some respects, they did know something er the publishers of the satirical paper "charlie hebdo" werest 10 months before.
was an explanation. it was a big shock, but with an explanation. there it's anoteople going out into the streets and shooting everybody. it's pure bad luck if you are there. scott: the recoil is hard to ignore, especially among tourists, who now stroll by soldiers with intimidating hardware on their way to france's most famous sights. >> you see police with all the guns and it's kind of scary. >> i kind of expected it, knowing what had happened, but it's quite confronting just seeing it. not used to it. >> i was thinking not son, i was thinking, i think it's better to jump country that and continue our travels to germany. scott: if it sounds familiar to
state of mind as a populatiican population just after 9/ we have and what i mean by that is we are in a state of pure and simple psychosis, we are in a state of global psychosis. scott: just as all of ride in old glory and anthemion, france is feeling it, too. a 600-year-old motto made a comeback here, "fluctuat nec mergitur" -- tossed, but not sunk, like a ship battered in rough seas. >> the machine right here, which is printing flags, was working all night e week. scott: enzo quoniam says the run on this country's tri-colors was unprecented. enzo: people feel more comfortable because, before the events, it was associated with extreme movements, political movements, and it was bad our house.
going against the terrorists. denise: i think it was probably the same way i remember going tod i felt that everyone had come together. in france, this is, i feel this, too -- i feel that a lot other. scott: denise pruvost s who, with her family, runs a denise: my neighbors were all e talking. in paris, that doesn't happen. scott: so there was a sense of community that didn't exist before? denise: a strong sense of community. scott: but to say that somehow as a fix would be decieving>> we have to learn to live with the terrorism. they did not know terrorists. century, we have to learn living with the terrorists.
any proof that the problem is solved anyway. so it happen again in france, but her countries, too, in europe which has produced another post-9/11 united states. >> just like in the united states after 9/11, we wing hatred against the muslim population. i'm not saying that americans became -- all of them -- anti-muslim, anti-arab population, but some of them, some of them began to feel very strong hatred against that part of the population. we have the same problem. scott: you're seeing that here now in france? >> yea scott: and while such reaction would have been expected a this type of talk has long been taboo. >> if i wanted to make a sarcastic joke, i would say that racism is the new black, basically. basic racist tendencies anars ago saying that, you would have
today, you become prime minister. scott: harsher laws similar to the patriot act, stricter border checks, and the ubiquitous show a new paris. with mosques under more watchful eyes and the glare now leery parisians make many wonder i to its storybook setting. >> i think it will return to normal but it will take time. scways going to be a target? >> probably, probably. scott: and the attacks in ress rehearsal. according to french media officials, 2015 was nothing and
countries. scott:acrts quoting intelligence what are they g sharyl: people say they are not doing enough, there were no firings or intelligence sources and that is why there is now a lack of ly interesting. thanks so much, scott thuman. ahead on "full measure" -- with new hampshire behind and south carolina ahead, the political caw phase. we'll talk with two political2016
sharyl: the remaining presidential candidates haveto the next prizes on the camuth carolina. as tgns and their spending will bd. the making of the presideninvolve billions of dollars s. last week, kingmakers from both political parties, republican karl rove and democrat jim messina, appeared together and gave their vt about the 2016 race. karl: on the ides of march, it was a bad day for caesar and it is going to be a pretty bad day for candidarchitect of the two successful presidenush. his super pac, american crossroads, hato a republican this election, but rove has been a strong jeb bush supporter.'s yang. jim:in the 2012 presidential race, "a presidentiar soul." sharyl: messina led l presidential
pac priorities usa action, which supports hillary clinton. together, the two represent tens of millions of super pac fundraising dollars from individuals, special interests, and corporations. the money is used to support their candidate and attack their opponents. before a recent town hall debate, the poliolitics and money. first, the influence of social media on the 2016 presidential campaign. jim: you'ion in social media and the way it's changed campaigns. you know, i just ran a campaign for the kingdom. we won a surprising majority and our research showed at the end social media wan traditional direct mail, television, anything else. and it goes to one theory -- and karl and i presidential races, as well -- people are getting so much information, so much news -- you guys are covering these campaigns ubiquitously that
friends and ut what to do in these sorts of decisions. president obama, in 2012, became the first incurity of the undecided voters in the final two days since nixon in 1972. when you asko obama in the final two days, 86% of them said because my friends and familpaign and we did most of that on social media. snapchat is now number one with young americans. ng the 2012 obama campaign. . and so i think what you'll continue to see e to change. but what won't change is peers they can believe in. and the campaigns who are able to consolidate that and have a message and a do really well on social media. and the ones who aren't and don't won't. karl: these are tools that are
it's an avenue, it's a means to a goal. and that goa a young lawyer in sagama county, illinois wrotommittee and said, "make a perfect list of voters, hav someone held in confidence, and on election day, make sure that eolls." abraham lincoln was pretty good practical politician, as well as a president, and the important point was "have the undecideds talked to by someowhich is what social media allows us to do in a powerfully broad fashion. jim: facebook would have saved him some time. [laughter] karl: though i'm not sure he had a face made for facebook. [laughter] sharyl: rove and messina also some states are winner-takes-all. but under this year's republican parttting delegates proportionally, which could make for a late decision on the nominee. karl: we have a lot more states that are gonna award their delegates proportionally and this means the contest is, in my opinion -- we're gonna go
the convention. i'm not certain i see that at the convention we go back to the old style of we have 7 backroom deals are made, and ballot, they all drop out. convention with somebody who has a majority and clearly the will be consolidation behind time since 1948, more than on think that could help the thidates all nominated, backrothe first or second ballot, 're going to the republ there was lots of party eldewas that obama and clinton went difficult it could be for our and the truth is the opposite aigning in all 50 states in tation, we figured out who the good data. we went into the general agar position, so i think karl's right. karl: we're going to go through gyrations that it's gonna we get to the ides of march.
sharyl: and what about the trump factor? rove says trump's secoelling. karl: he thought the r. so he dissed the last deba he did not build a ground game in iowa. jim: i've said publicly it would blcians would nominate donald trump. i'll do whatever i can of ted cruz, too. have at itt like me enough to give us donald trump and i think he'll continue to sink in the polls, but one thing we've seen so far is unpredictability and all of thought he would have been gone by now. sharyl: when asked if a candidate backing of a super pac, both men said, no. rove and messina appeared at a town hall debate that i to benefit the ringling college library association. still ahead on "full measure" -- president obama delivers h he may be a lame duck trying to
into wha sharyl: on tuesday, president obama submitted his eighth, and last, budget proposal to congress. at $4.1 trillion, it's the largest of his administration or any to date. republicans in congress, which controls the purse strings, have already declared it dead on arrival. we "follow the money" to see why. pres. obama: these are proposals reflected in the budget that work for us and not against us. it adheres to last year's bipartisan budget agreement, it drives down the deficit, it includes smart savings on healthcare, immigration, and tax reform. sharyl: even with the president's "smart savings," his final spending plan would drive up the debt from the current $19 trillion to $27.4 trillion over
that's according to the office of management and budget. with his proposal, president obama will leave office having never proposed a budget that balances. some of the new spending in the record $4.1 trillion plan includes -- $7.5 billion for the pentagon to fight isis -- a 50% increase over the current budget, $1.8 billion to fight the mosquito-spread zika virus, $12.2 billion for food aid programs, and $4 billion to expand computer science programs in schools. but the republican-controlled congress has already made it clear it's not planning to write a check to cover the president's spending plan. house speaker paul ryan labeled it "a progressive manual for growing the federal government." speaker ryan: the way we hold the obama administration accountable is controlling their budget. and that's why having the power of the purse and a functioning appropriations process serves that goal. and that's why i'm confident we'll figure this out. sharyl: on the income side, the budget calls for eliminating tax
new fees on the largest banks , and a $10 a barrel tax on crude oil. overall, the budget would increase taxes by $2.6 trillion over the coming decade, even as it drives up the debt, how much the u.s. owes, as counted in the u.s. national debt clock website. it also drives up the federal deficit, how much more the u.s. is spending than it actually has. republicans will be releasing their own budget in the coming weeks.
sharyl: the u.s. navy is pressing new ships into duty. there's the nearly $13 billion uss gerald r. ford, a new class of aircraft carrier, which goes into service this spring. and the dramatic launch of the new uss sioux city two weeks ago. both claim to have the latest technology for the navy's global presence of late in the strait of hormuz in the mideast and increasingly in the south china sea. but we noticed one thing that hasn't changed for a half century -- ships go to sea painted battleship grey. so we asked a few questions and met one man who introduced us to some ships of a different color. jim: as a young boy, i had a poster from world war one that hung in my bedroom and it showed
of a merchant ship and the destroyer was painted orange and blue andll kinds of different colors and i thought, "this is so ridiculous -- they would never paint ships like that." sharyl: but that's exactly what they did. jim bruns is the director of the national museum of the u.s. navy in washington, d.c. he tells the story of the art of war. in order to evade the german u-boats, the u.s. and british navies took a page out of the sketch pads of picasso and the cubists, hiding their ships in plain sight -- with paint. jim: you can't disguise a ship on the high seas, it's impossible to disguise it. you see it on the horizon, it's giving off smoke, they are burning coal. you can't disguise them, you can't literally camouflage them, but what you can do is distort cubists, hiding their ships in plain sight -- with paint. them and that's what the art and science of razzle dazzle is all
sharyl: the brits called it "dazzle," the americans "razzle dazzle." on both sides of the atlantic, the two navies transformed thousands of ships into floating works of art. like the rms olympic, a british luxury liner converted into a troop ship to transport americans to the front lines. jim: you can clearly see the curve shape, which makes it look like it is a wave. its stacks are painted so that the portion that would be greatest in the sun is now painted in black. sharyl: and the uss west mahomet. jim: by using vivid patterns and vivid colors, you break the image to the point where you don't know whether you are looking at the back, looking at the front, or how big the actual object is because it is totally distorted to you. sharyl: the "razzle dazzled" ships were stunning. one observer at the time called them "a flock of sea-going easter eggs." jim: artistically, to me, they
phosphorescent greens, vivid oranges, bright yellows, purple, red, fire engine red. it is almost like psychedelic art. in the early 1900s. i would love to see this ship in honest-to-god color. it's so dramatic. sharyl: razzle dazzles arrived at a critical time for the war effort. by 1917, british morale was sinking as fast as its ships, with german u-boats torpedoing one out of every four vessels crossing the atlantic. jim: this is a world war ii era periscope, but you're basically limited to a viewing portal that's this big. sharyl: facing zig zags and distorting colors, the u-boat captains struggled to target their torpedoes. jim: we know, even from german statements, that it was hard to plan an attack on a razzle dazzled vessel, because you didn't know where the front was, you weren't sure where the back was, you weren't sure what angle it was sailing at, you weren't sure of its speed. sharyl: america escorted 18,000
supporting the war effort. >> we have just begun the fight. that is the slogan of the navy of today. jim: the u.s. navy never lost a vessel in convoy and that was in part due to "razzle dazzle." sharyl: the national museum of the u.s. navy is open to the public and is located in the middle of the navy yard in washington dc, which is an active military installation, so there is an extra layer of security to go through. there are plans to relocate it to a more public place. next week on "full measure" -- we'll have results of a shocking investigation into the cost of medical services and how they vary wildly from place to place, even sometimes within the same city. the difference can be thousands or even ten thousand dollars for the exact same procedure. with more patients paying out of pocket, we'll show you why it makes sense to shop around, but also reveal how difficult that can be. that's it for this week. thank you for watching. i'm sharyl attkisson. until next time, we'll be
you guys are a married couple and you're doctors... >> you-- no? >> no. >> okay. >> no, we're actually veterans. we're good friends. we were-- >> veterans? >> yes, sir. >> military veterans? >> yes, sir. [cheers and applause] >> hold on. >> huh? >> every time we have military veterans on the show, i give them a free owl. >> oh, well, thank you. >> yeah, it's a-- it's a way our nation-- our nation says "thank you" with a free owl. now, this symbolizes one owl. there will be a separate owl for each of you, i hope. should i put it here for now? >> definitely. >> all right. yeah. i'd take care of your owl. well, thank you. what branch of the services were you in? >> i was in the navy. >> unfortunately, that's not the really best branch. i was in the marines, you know. >> okay. >> you know what i'm saying? >> okay. >> so as we know, the marines are-- >> are america's 911-- america's force. >> a subdivision of the navy. >> all right, that's enough of that. all right, let's meet the celebrity you'll be playing with first.