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black enterprise," on location in new york city for an exclusive interview with the legendary quincy jones. that's what's going on in our world starting now. ♪ ♪ we are the world his life's work has taken us to new heights. as a world renown musician, tv and film producer, director, record executive and philanthropist, quincy jones is
unstoppable. >> the record of the year is. >> the grammy goes to quincy jones and michael jackson. >> quincy joans. >> nominated for 79 grammys, jones has taken home 27. >> he was also just honored at the tribeca film festival. for a career spanning 60 years. jones has discovered and worked with some of the biggest stars of all-time. i recently sat down with quincy jones to talk about his legacy. >> you have had a career that spans over six decades. you play with everybody. you have done just about everything. how did you get here? >> i don't know. as they say in chinese, ebu, ebu, which means step by step. one step at a time and i couldn't -- nobody in the world could predict what happened in my life. i couldn't predict it, man, of what happened to work with every idol i ever had from billy holiday, ray charles and i came up together between 14 and 16. cab cal obey, jay mcsham, buoy,
daisy duke, ray charles, aretha, paul simon, frank sinatra, michael jackson. >> that's the whole 20th century of black music. >> ludicrous, snoop dogg, everybody. incredible, man. it is a blessing and i receive it very gracefully. >> when you got into the music business, you began as an artist. playing the trumpet. how did you get your first big break? >> i wanted to be a gangster until i was 12. >> before music, you wanted to be a gangster? >> yeah. my dad was a master carpenter in chicago in the depression. five million black people and he was a carpenter for the city's most serious triple owe gees on the planet, the jones boyce. i got my medals, switchblade, seven years old, ice pick in my head. >> so what got you out of the gang life and into the music?
>> oh, no, no. my father was busy all the time. my mother was put in a mental home. so he was never home to look out after us. he was working and all. he was working with these guys. capone found out that they started a policy racket in the first black-owned businesses. the five and dime stores. they made $100 million one year in the '30s. that's like $1 billion, you know. he freaked out. he underestimated them. they -- he ran them out of chicago to mexico and the next day, my father came and got my brother and i and put us on the trailway bus with him and went to the northwest. >> thank god. and we are still going to the baby gangsters, right? doing everything, burning down dance halls and breaking into stores and everything, man.
we broke into an army one weekend. we heard they had this lemon meringue pie and ice-cream. so we broke in and ate up all that and got tired and full and start fights. >> inside the place? y'all still in there? >> yeah. we had some pie fights and we were individually breaking into roochls separately. i broke into this supervisor's room. i saw a spend et piano and almost closed the door. thank god something above said go back in the door, idiot. i bent over to the piano. i knew when i hit it that that was what i would do the rest of my life. every drop of blood in the cell of my body could tell me that. i would play after school, played tu ba, horn, pick horn, french horn, trom bones. i could be up front with the majorettes in the marching band. i really wanted to play trumpet. i finally got to trumpet.
>> most people can't span that range like you do. you do everything from jazz to symphony orchestra. is that something that somebody mentored you to do? >> no, no, no. in a way, ray did. in seattle, during the '40s, you had to play everything from jewish weddings, bar mitzvahs and strippers and the black clubs. we played everything. i am glad of that sa za, baby souza. the lady i went with, who was the men for for stravinsky, leonard bernstein, i studied with her in paris for five years. she said, there are only 12 notes. you learn what everybody did with them until they send 13, you will be okay. nothing has ever bothered me no matter whether it is big band,
bee-bop, do-op, hip-hop, no problem. >> it is hard to go anywhere without finding your imprint, whether it is television or music. >> did you imagine when you were playing that trumpet you would be everywhere? >> absolutely not. i have learned to -- art linkletter used to live next door to me before he died. he used to say to me, quincy, just make god laugh. don't make plans. we have nothing to do with it. i have always believed that music is, we are terminals for a higher power. i can feel it. it goes through you, man. i get curious how you guys get all these ego. the ego is the higher power coming through you. i believe that. as you go to your creativity with humility with grace. >> we will be right back. >> would you consider doing a
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he is the coolest person in the world. >> everything he has done has a mind towards progress, social progress, cultural progress, making change. i think that's the greatest gift he has given to the world. >> welcome back to ""our world with black enterprise."" we are here with mr. quincy jones. the legend. not only are you a legend but you have had a whole career working with other legends. let me know what it was like working with them. i have to start with ray charles. >> ray was like my brother from another mother. ray came into the town in florida. he had sight until he was six. he had chickenpox and scratched his eyes when he was in florida. he went to the white house, they wouldn't let him in. when he got to the black house, he was blind. he was like 100 years older than me. he was living at home. i was 14. he had his own apartment, two pair of shoes, two pair of
suits, two girlfriends, a record player then and everything. ray was very independent. his mother taught him to not be like with the canes and the dogs. ray would go shopping on his own, whatever. the streets, cross the lights. i never could figure out how he could do that. the only time ray got blind was when there pr pretty girls around. stevie does the same thing today. i bust him all the time. you get all blind, man. >> part of their rap, man. >> you meet my girlfriend. they are beautiful, though. we had the time of our life man. >> what about frank sinatra? >> oh, please, man, that's my brother, another brother. i was working in paris running a record company and studying. one day i came in. they said, grace kelly's office
called from monoco. they want mr. sinatra and the house band and lucky pounce and all those guys. so we took them down. we played with frank at the sporting club for grace kelly and cary grant and all those people. after six words, he said, good job, kid, cuckoo. four years later, i get a call from his wife. the first guy that called me "q." i am directing a film and i just heard the record you did with basecy with clark howard. it is a waltz. he said, i like the way you did it. i put it in 4/4. he said, that's the way i want
to do it. he said, would you consider doing a record with my and bacey? i said, man, are you crazy? is the pope a catholic? i was in hawaii two days later and worked with him the rest of his life. >> let me run one more past you. i can't not talk about michael jackson. >> what else is there to say? it is in the music, man. we worked on the wiz. he said to me, i'm going to do an album on epic. could you help me find a producer? i said, i don't want to talk about it. you don't have the song and the movie yet. he was on down the road with diana. i was working to get him a song. we finally got the song, you can't win, with the crows and all, the scarecrow. i started watching him after that and seeing how focused he was. he knew everybody's dialogue, all of their songs, all of their steps, the choreography, everything. he was so on the case.
i was trying to find stuff in him that hadn't been exposed to the jackson 5, you know. i realized at the oscars one year and he sang ben which is a love song but it is a love song to a rat. i had him turn the song around, she's out of my life. a frnd of mine wrote when his wife left him. i was saving it for sinatra. i said, i'm going to give it to michael. michael sang it and every tape he did, he cried. that was on the record. >> that world included off the wall, thriller and bad, three of the most successful records in music history. could you imagine that? when y'all went in the booth the first time? >> no. i just make music that i like. that's the only thing you can do. naturally, going for the throat, my least favorite records are number 2, 6, and 11. i don't want to be number two. >> right. >> you get success addicted to.
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and i saved you money on brakes. that's personal pricing. there is no word for quincy. it's legacy. i am thankful to be here and i am honored to be here. i am trying to be the next. if i was ever trying to be the next, his blueprint and his works speak for themselves. >> he is one of the greatest icons that we have living in the united states. his influence on music, culture, world peace, he is just, he is quincy. one of the things you have done and really laid a pathway for other people behind you is you have taught us to own our own stuff, whether it is copyrights, masters, negatives or film. >> right. >> you have owned your own stuff. >> if you don't have the copyright, a negative or a
masters, you are not in the music business. the value is in ownership of those things, the recordings, you know, or the footage or copyrights of songs. >> how did you know to do that? >> i learned early, in new york. they take you out quick. sinatra says, if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere. they took you out fast. i would go right to the record date and i would sign the contract and they said, you can say anything you want, you are only getting 1%, you know. i would sign it and they would put somebody else's name as the writer and publish it. they would sell the song before i walk out the door. i go, we're not going to have that. that is some plantation stuff. we don't do that. >> for sure. >> it took me a few years, because everybody was going through that back then. that's the way it was. black entertainers were at their peak in the '50s.
>> as you think about the next generation of artists, who are some of the folk that you see carrying the torch? who do you sees as the next big people? >> we are at amazing crossroads right now. number one, we are at the end of the recording industry as we knew it. that hurts me a lot. it's all over the world. it is 95% to 90% piracy. the kids just take the music now. they just take it. >> do you think there will be a recording industry in 20 years? >> no. i will say in ten years, there won't be one. we are going to have to reinvent it. >> i can't believe it. i'm looking at it come straight at me. most of the people in the business act like nothing is wrong. they are wrong. 100 miles an hour. you can't look at everything like a big problem. it's a puzzle.
we are going to do a deal with the new president of china, whose wife is an opera singer and, hopefully, he will be protect tore of intellectual property. little by little, we will get there. >> on television, looking at the sanford and son theme song, i could watch the color purple which you co-produced or open up a magazine which you help found. >> you put oprah and will smith on the map for that? >> fresh prince was our show, our production, co-production on the color purple. >> what's the key for you having such a wide reach and such longevity? >> i don't know, man. if god gives it to you, i am not going to send it can ba. it is about orchestration, number one and vision too. i could see down the street.
i was with dallas simpson. i saw her singing when she was 19. the guys did that to me. they lifted me up and put me on the show with sidney poitier. great director. automatically, that hand was out there. mandela says, quincy, come over, i would like you to co-host with me up in botswana in south africa and we promised to build 100 homes for habitat from humanity. i brought five gang bangers with me from l.a. in ten days, we turned around. they saw the essence of south africa we were going through and all this stuff with mandela. all these kids are executives at big organizations and help kids stay out of jail. >> what's the next thing? what's the next big thing for quincy jones? >> we are going to kanye west and the film festival with us.
>> kanye west? >> we are helping hundreds of families. >> maybe a month or two ago, there was a little minicontroversy about you and conway? >> the inlt net always has something going. they are people that don't have a life, man. they are sitting down there with their pants on the ground and making up stuff and hiding behind an a.k.a. we don't have any beef. they make up stuff. >> what do you think about kanye as an artist and a producer? >> i know all the rappers. i work with all of them. >> you still have a lot of world. >> i travel at least 200,000 miles a year, brazil. everywhere. [ applause >> when are you going to rest? >> you have been doing it for 62 years? >> rest when you are dead, man.
then, you will get a lot of rest. >> i love it, man. i'm a road rat. i have been a musician since i was 13. i've been in nightclubs and stuff like that. if you don't go away, you don't have to make a comeback. >> i like that. we'll be right back. [ crew guy hi...welcome to mcdonald's. what can i get you guys? derek, did you forget something? ♪ ♪ a happy meal, please. you got it. [ mom my derek loves his mcdonald's happy meal. and now, i love knowing that when i buy one, a donation is made to ronald mcdonald house charities to help kids like derek feel better. so kids can focus on doing what they do best... just being a kid. [ male announcer mcdonald's happy meal. the simple joy of helping.
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