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cummings. the top democrat. what can be done to boost domestic production. we'll ask t.boone pickens who has a new plan. and all of washington is wondering what the supreme court will do about obama care. what does it mean for your health care and the november election? all right now on "fox news sunday". and hello again from fox news in washington. the showdown over the box gun trafficking operation known as fast and furuous escalated with the president exerting executive privilege and the house committee voting to attorney general holder is in contempt of congress. joining us is darrell issa for the house committee . elijah cummings.
assuming there is no deal over the documents congressman issa will the house vote to hold attorney general holder in contempt. >> yes, i believe it will. >> chris: you are saying it is bipartisan. >> there are 31 who wrote to the administration asking them to be forth coming and many of them will stay with us now that the administration has not been. >> chris: no doubt in your mind that the house will vote holder in contempt? >> it is regrettable we are here. we would not like to be here. if attorney general holder and the president could release the documents that are not any means covered by executive privilege this could be eliminated. we can't have a promise to be satisfied and dismiss the contempt. >> chris: and failing that kind
of an agreement, then what? >> it is the speaker's decision. he has announced we will vote if there is not a negotiated settlement. >> chris: give us an example of the kind of document that is important and get to the bottom of the case and clearly not a matter of executive privilege. >> shortly after february 4th, after senator grassley got a letter that was untrue, clearly untrue they don't let guns walk. atf director kenneth nelson sent an e-mail and he had said to us in sworn testimony that he had concerns and we want to see that e-mail. that is an example where he was saying if we believe his sworn testimony that guns walked and he said it shortly after february 4th and july 4th. when he told us that, we asked for the document. >> chris: this is an e-mail between him and who?
>> his handers in the justice. atf respects to the deputy attorney general and this e-mail would have liked to know. and we want to know who talked about it. because they should have known that that february 4th letter was untrue. >> chris: congressman cummings we'll get to the request of nelson. because it is important. in this overall question. do you believe that the house is going to vote failing an agreement vote holder in contempt and this would be the first time in history that either house ever voted and chief law enforcement officer of the land in contempt, what do you think about the action. >> it is extremely unfortunate and i absolutely don't think we need to be in this place. over a year ago, chairman issa accused holder of authorizing
these tactics and nothing accounted be further from the truth from the evidence we have gotten. there is no evidence that he knew about it or that he authorized or condoned it? i am saddened that at this point in the history of the congress that we would be finding this attorney general in contempt. and you know, kris, i think that i am calling on speaker boehner to come forth and show strong leadership and sit down with the attorney general to resolve this matter. the attorney general made it clear he is willing to work with this congress and he turned over 7600 going through millions of e-mails and even given up internal deliberative documents. these are the types of documents
that attorney generals over and over and year after year held close to them and themselves and their offices. he has done that. i think all he's asked for is a good faith promise that we would bring these contempt proceedings to some kind of conclusions and offering to sit down with house leadership to work it out. i hope we do. >> let me get to you congressman issa. let's assume in fact that the house vote to hollander in contempt, then what? you can refer it to the u.s. attorney that works for holder and in all likelihood will not prosecute his boss . file a lawsuit in federal court that takes years that you can impeach him and try to arrest him and have a stand off between the sergeant in arms and his security people or you sit
there. >> kris, i will continue my investigation. i left a message with briantery's mother. >> chris: briantery is the border patrol agent who was killed in 2010. and two of the weapons were found by him at this murder. >> i told her we will continue what the truth is regardless of the vote. we have too finted out about the death and cover up. having said that mine is not to look at postcontempt. i have to do my job of a host of other failures and abuses because we need corrective action. i would take with my colleague in that i did not say that eric holder always knew. i knew that lanny brewer knew before the retraction. >> the head of the crim nam
division. lanny said that to me. he thought it was a good idea and badly executed. and having said that. we are in fact trying to get to the truth when we were told a lie and that's what contempt is about. it is about the cover up. >> we'll get back to that in a moment. congressman cummings i -- you can respond. >> i plan to. >> chris: good. fast and furous as congressman issa points out is not just another washington scandal. someone was killed here. briantery a border patrol agent with some of the guns used here and this is what terry's parents had to say. >> it is something they don't want us to know and something to hide. >> i think they are hiding manage. they are either lying or hiding. >> a year ago congressman cummings you told the terry, the parents this. >> we will not rest until every
single person responsible for all of this no matter where they are, are brought to justice. >> congressman cummings, can you honestly say you kept that promise? >> i have kept that promise and i will keep that promise. you got to understand. i had a nephew who was slaughtered and shot with a gun. i see it in my district and i see it in my city. i see what guns can do. and i am determined to do that. but you have to understand something, kris. the contempt proceeding had nothing to do with the murder of briantery. what we are dealing with, and chairman issa made it clear. we are dealing with documents where there is an effort number one to figure out how this false document was submitted to the senator grassley and keep in mind that there was false
information, kris, that was sent to the legislative department of the department of justice from the folks down in phoenix. that is the atf. many of the people who were carrying on operations like fast and furious since 2006. in other words, they were operating in the bush administration and mr. issa knows that. he knows that. and let me finish. and 1300 pages of documents delivered had already been presented to us by mr. holder. those, we have gotten those . all of the attorney general asked for and i sat in a meet he simply with mr. issa and he simply said look, i am willing to turn over documents, but just give me some you know, assurances that you will make a
good faith effort to the end. >> chris: let me -- >> i am almost finished. >> chris: this is a key point and let me explain to folks who have not followed this closely. in february 2011, a little over a year ago, the justice department sent a letter to senator grassley said no gun walking operation where they had let the guns go over the border and in december 2011, they retracted the letter to congress. that is why it is a big day. congressman issa you talk about finding the truth about briantery, you refused to hold a public hearing with the people at phoenix atf that ran the pradings . you refused a public hearing with the former head of atf. ken nelson. you refused a public hearing and
he testified he never told the higher ups about fast and furious. >> no. kris. he testified he did tell them. >> chris: you also in the case of the letters seeking documents after february of last year which may be politically embarrassing and scrambling to come up for an exmanation but how does that tell you what happened two month it is earlier to priantery. >> what is important this february 4th. kenneth nelson said he had sent shortly after february 4th. he had sent an e-mail. we would like to have kenneth nelson and a gentleman named cunningham who threatened to take the fifth before us. but before you bring them before us, we have to see the documents produce mr. cummings said it it
well perhaps they are lying to their bosses we'll not brimming them in unless we have the questions to ask. i expect to have a panel. >> chris: you refused to have kenneth nelson. >> not at all. >> he testified two days -- ? in a private hearing. >> no, a private gathering with republicans and demicrats. our intention to have him on a panel. >> chris: we have limited time. congressman cummings does that satisfy you? >> no, i have asked the chairman to blidge atf director nelson before us. he has refused to. and we ask add for the witnesses to california before a public hear he refused to do that. the all i am saying the chairman
and me has a willing partner if we are about the business of keeping the promise to the terry family. i want to do that. that is so very, very important. but i can tell you, i said it before, chris. i think regarding to getting the documents we are on the one foot line of the field. i have no doubt that if speaker boehner showed the strong leadership, we can sit it down and work it out with the attorney general and move on >> chris: we have limited time. the president exerted executive privilege this week . congressman issa this is what house democratic leaders pelosi had to say. >> they are going after eric holder because he is supporting measures to overthroww supreddings in the states. this is no accident. and it is no coincidence.
it is a plan on the part of the republicans. >> chris: congressman cummings congress started the investigation of fast and furous in january 2011 one month after briantery was year -- killed. what nancy pelosi talking about? >> i think there are a number of people. looking at attorney general holder and they themselves ask why is he become the punching bag for so many republicans? why is he the subject of all of the conspiracy theories. but you know what, chris. i am a lawyer, and i am used to getting to the bottom of things and resolving and moving forward . again, no matter what other people think, i think they have a duty to the american public and congressman of the united
states. and critical moment of the documents and it is getting the documents and get the matter resolved. >> chris: i am sorry, we are almost out of time and i want to ask congressman issa a final question. after the president envoked executive privilege. house speaker boehner said that changes everything. >> the decision to evoke executive privilege is an admission that the white house officials were involved in decisions that mislead the congress and covered up the truth. >> chris: do you have any evidence that white house officials knowingly misled congress. >> no, we don't. and we are seaninging documents that we know to exist that are about briantery-- terry's murder and get to the trouth. eric holder ends up being the
custodian to get the documents. we would go to the deputy general easily. all we are looking for is documents internal to the false statement and not part of the deliberative process. >> chris: i want to be clear. no evidence that the white house is involved in the cover up. >> and i hope they don't get involved. i hope it stays with the justice . ultimate justice lied to the american people on february 4th and didn't make it right for 10 months >> chris: we have to leave it there. congressman issa and congressman cummings thank you very much. up next. we'll hear from t boone pickens on how to cut foreign oil. in south africa, alumin and the aerospace industry in the u.s.? at t. rowe price,
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>> chris: with summer driving in full swing and all of us watching the price in the gas pump. what can be done to reduce the country's dependence on foreign oil. welcome back to "fox news sunday" t. boone pickens? >> thanks, kris. >> last time we heard about energy is when you were pushing a major investment in wind power. >> america is blessed with one of the behest wind corridors in the world. using private invest technology that exists we can supply 20
percent. >> now you are off wind power, what happened? >> price. wind is priced off of the margin. the margin is natural gas. when i made that ad natural gas was 7 dollars. today natural gas is 2..0. >> you can't finance a wind deal unless you have natural gas. >> you lost 150 million promoting an investing in wind power. >> yes. >> did that hurt in >> yes. >> chris: well. >> it was painful. >> chris: now you are pushing natural gas why? >> it is up every street and alley in the united states. it is the largest natural resource that we have and we are now talking about exporting it out of the country.
use it here. increase the demand for natural gas and use it here. don't send our cheep and 30 percent cleaner than diesel. don't ship it out to china and import dirty opec crude. i mean, we are going to go down as the dumbest generation in the world if we do that. we are fools if we do it. because we have so much natural gas it is unbelievable. but we also have a lot of oil, too. we are increasing our oil in the united states and that's all because the industry has geped techniques to recover both oil and gas. >> and let's focus on the natural gas that is cheaper and cleaner and we don't have to ship trillions over to opec our enemies. your idea is to convert the
nation heavy duty trucks. 18-wheelers for natural gas. what does that mean in pollution and terms of dependence on foreign oil. >> there are 250 million vehicles in america. i just want 8 million. give me the eight million. what can i do for us? if i had 8 million. that is 3 million barrels was oil a day. and that is four million from opec. we cut opec by, 60 percent. close to 70 percent. and just 8 million. and it is like a freebey. and it truly is. and it is moving in that direction and that's what my opponents say. you let the free market take over and let it happen. natural gas is 1.50 or 2 dollars cheap are than diesel.
it will take you 8-10 years. if you want to do something as far as legislation is concerned half that time. >> chris: the biggest problem with natural gas we don't have the infrastructure. we have to concert all - convert all of those trucks and filling stations on the country . your answer that you are pushing in congress is natural gas act give 3.8 in tax credits. i have done my research to companies to build the infrastructure and you lost in the senate. >> i lost because the 18-wheelers were not germane to a highway transportation bill. 18-wheelers were not germane and they were demeaned nongermane
and i need 60 votings. anymore place but washington 51-47 wins. it had a pay for in it. it does not cost the taxpayers one penny . who does it pay for? people buying the fuel. it is like a toll road. if you use it. you pay for it. and if you don't. you don't pay for it. >> you brought up one house majority leader and eric cantor said it is an example of washington picking winners and losers giving monies to the natural gas industry. if it is so good, the private sector will find a way to pay for it. >> cuhave it twice as fast and not pay anything. eric knows that and we discussed it, but here, people who are opposed to me is coke industry. >> that has nothing to do with
coca-cola. that is the coke brothers. they are opposed for natural gas for transportation because -- >> they don't want to see the price go up because they are in the chemical and fertilizer business and import 60,000 barrels of opec crude every day and third largest on subsidies for ethanoyl. everything that i am talking about is cokes, don't like it. >> chris: they would like the natural gas for the fertilizers and other things and if you are spending it for heavy duty trucks it will raise the price for that. >> yes. >> chris: another objection you have huge surge of natural gas that we have gotten through fracing. where drillers use high pressure mix of frudes to fracture the gas that lets the natural gas
escape. concern and criticism is, that you release benzene and endanger our water supply? >> give me an example of that happening. the largest aqua fer in north america extend from midland, texas to the south dake border. across eight states. there are over 800,000 wells fractured in that area. kansas, oklahoma, and texas, all of them. they manage the aquafer no problem. i don't know of any case. i fraced over 3000 list myself. and i never damaged the water. aqua fers occur above 1,000. fresh water is above 1,000 feet down in the earth and you are down 5,000 to 10,000 or 15,000
feet fractured. >> you are saying one thing doesn't get into the other. we'll bring you the last question. >> brian: recent drop in oil prices with the economic slow down. take a look at in april 3.88 gas. and now 3.48 and projections by the end of the year under 3. when the price of gas falls, so does the sense of crisis? >> sure, no question . great for the economy. but historically for 40 years when gasoline prices went up american people got upset and politicians started to talk about doing something. we never had an energy plan. and only time we talk about it is when gas prices are up. why are we in the fix today where we import over 60 percent of the oil. why are we in that spot today?
because of cheap gasoline. that's why we are there. if we had expensive gasoline we would have figured it out and got our own resources. i am in touch with a lot of people and i started that plan four years ago. it will be four years july 8th. i have a million seven hundred people signed up with it. and made hundreds of speeches in the united states. and i have done 50 town halls in the united states. and i am in touch with the grass roots on energy. >> we are getting to politics and have a couple of minutes left. you supported john mccain and never voted for democrat. are you impressed with either president obama or governor romney when it come to plans for energy. >> obama when he received the nomination in 08 in denver, he said in 10 years we'll not import oil from the mideast.
never again has hed that. now is the time to show up with the plan. romney has the kind of skepton - skelton of the plan. i haven't heard it either. this is an opportunity for us to rebuild the economy off of the back of cheap energy . we have the cheapest energy in the world in the united states. we are 15 percent less on oil cost and a fraction on natural gas and half of gasoline. >> finally, do you intend to get involved in the presidential race? >> you mean run? >> i am sure a lot of people listening to you say that is what we need. are you going to support. >> i will support the one that has the energy plan for america. >> are you saying that you are not going to be a sure republican vote? >> i think, i think romney will
show up with the plan is what i think. because i've seen obama and heard what he says, but he never has a plan. and never come forth with a plan for energy from america. >> chris: mr. pickens, thank you for coming in today. always a pleasure to talk to you. if you decide to run you are welcome here. >> i would come to you first. >> chris: up next. supreme court gets set to announce one of the biggest rulings in dec deck aids and the sunday panel weighs in on what the court will do about obama care and what it means for all of us. let's do this i am from baltimore south carolina... bloomington, california... austin, texas... we are all here to represent the country we love this is for everyone back home
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>> woo finally passed a form that makes health care affordable for every american. that was right to do. >> unless the court throws out the entire law, the house will vote whatever is it left of obama care. >> president obama and speaker of the house john boehner setting the stage for this week's big news. supreme court's ruling on obama care. brit hume, fox news senior analyst. kirsten powers of the daily beast website. nicole wallace and offer of the novele it is classified. and jeff zeleny of the new york times. how big of a deal, what are the stakes for president obama and end up saying about the role of
government in our lives. >> the stakes are high for the had the and everybody who is involved in the issue. congress and both presidential candidates and it is huge. what i say about it, we don't know what the court will do. there is speckules that the court blows it up by declaring the individual date and funding mechanism that basically supports it it would be better for the president because it takes the monkey off of his back and the unpopular law will be gone. >> if it is truck down it is a declaration of his single achievement of his first team to the exclusion of helping the economy is illegitimate. if it is not struct down it is an unpopular law . the court's judgment might add legitimacy to it.
the law is law -- unpopular. i don't see for any way for him to win on the court may come down in any number of different directions and maybe go off in a bunch of different directions . >> we are all in speculation . none of us know or have the slightest idea. what are you hearing from the democratic contacts. what do they anticipate will power happen . what is the reaction be if the court strikes down. >> i think it is a lot of fear. they thought it was constitutional and not an issue. and realized it got before the court there was a problem. i think they can work it to their advantage if they handle it correctlyy. and i think ultimately, the best case, it is upheld in the entirity even though there are
political down sides that. is his central landmark deal and to say he did something unconstitutional is bad. if it is struck down in the entirity. they use it to the advantage it is over reach and look at the people. only 18 percent know what it said. we'll have a spat of stories saying this person is going to die because the preexisting condition they can't get coverage and this person will be taken off of the parent's coverage. and they can turn it on to you don't realize what you had. >> nicole; the over all law according to the polls is unpopular. there are aspects that are popular. allowing your kids to stay on the coverage until they are twex. >> depends on who you ask. >> insuring coverage. people like that idea. certainly the kids do. and insuring coverage even if you have a preexisting
condition. if the court strikes down all or part of obama care; what is the challenge for republicans,? how do they show they are part of the solution and not the problem. >> the cost of health care has been a dangerous topic for republicans. i remember in 2004, we were always prepared to have something constructive to say. that the is piece of the debate that doesn't break down in partisan lines. cost of the health care democrats and republicans have to have an worry to. but the interesting opportunity for the romney campaign. his position in massachusetts was a big burden to care. he's freed himself from that. and having the debate and philosophical debate about the role of government and the one that republicans have been able to lead on. and the other thing for romney
campaign the victory when it comes down to court and the power of appointing justices to trust in the lime light and it is resolved around the economy thus far. >> jeff, run through various scenarios and what if this, then that. and how does it play if the court strikes down the whole law. there is no question. but there is not a short-term hit for president obama and a serious one. he had a democratic house and senate and it is a central achievement and it fail would. that was more than a year. >> and the white house is loathe to talk about it but working to plan the scenarios and like making lemonade out of the lemons sceniario. it might give a chance to reargue the things that we
troyed a couplev years ago and failed by branding the health care law something other than the mandate. no one wants the court to do if that happens, they see a potential silver listening. - lining. >> if the justices strike down the judged man date. >> that is the best case sceniario they think they can get. but who knows. what if this coverage of democratic finger pointing and did the white argue it in the right way and should they have planned for the sceniario. and you will see the white house from the beginning try to point out these things that people generally like about the bill. i think what is most interesting to watch what is mitt romney doing? he plans to come to washington and this is an interesting moment for him. it will shine the spotlight for
him on his own health care plan. how he handles it had is fascinating to watch. >> that is good for the white house if they uphold it. but the legal remedy is out and if you oppose a obama care only way to elect a republican. >> it energizes the repeal and replace. that helps mitt romney more than anything else at all. what if there is a retirement on the supreme court. i don't know if there will be. that would amplified the president. he's trying to run against the supreme court. this is about the economy. >> i want to bring that up in the time we have left, brit, assuming the court strikes down all or part of the obama care, do you see the obama white house campaigning against the court saying this is a political decision and if you have a
president. >> i think it would be a mistake to do that. the president is known to the public as a blamer. here again he is blaming somebody else for something of his that failed. my since is, it wouldn't work. what is wise to do. and that is to have the plan ready to g. and say that has fail move forward and try this and this and this. republicans are saying this is not good. what is your plan mr. mitt romney. governor romney will do tort reform and health care debate . they have the outlines of something to say. both sides need something constructive to say. i don't think blame casting is going to work. showdown over operation fast and
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congressional republicans are focused on this tax paid funding year phishing exection. expe>> this is about justice for the people of the united states of america. >> trading charges over the investigation in what went wrong with operation fast and furious. what is yourr sense of where things sphand now. are house republicans reach is the obama white house in a cover up. >> the cover up is pretty strong now. there is no evidence that this is not executive privilege made because of presidential communication which is where the
strongest privilege lies are involved here. this is internal justice department deliberations . so far as we know don't involve the president or the white house. what they are saying. we have to have confidentiality and not have congress snooping in our internal deliberations. the courts recognized some privilege in that area but not much. i think it is a frivolous claim. there was a false letterr here and evidence of cover up and the committee is trying to see who said what to whom and when and what the process was. this is the kind of things that investigating committees are titled to. they are funded by congress and upposed to investigate. but the delay of the matters until after the electionn.
that satisfies the obama white house and the justice department purpose which is to put this off. >> let me for people who are not following. key here february 2011. the justice department denied there was a gun walking operation and allow guns to be brought and sent over the border and denied it happened. by december 20111 said it was operation fast and furious and darle issa is seeking the documents and obviously they are scrambling around and realizing that the denial is false. they are trying to figure out how to handle it and conceivably cover up who knew what and why not turn it over to congress? >> i think the white house or justice department would say, frankly, but when you hand over
that wide array of documents to the other party, they are going to go through and start look for example thingings n >> it is totally partisan investigation. >> it is totally partisan. they keep saying we want to get to the bottom of what happened to the agent. that investigation is taken place and we know that tragically with this program and in which administration disavowed and had an investigation to. and the information doesn't relate to any of that. it relates to the fact this is what is difficult for holder to recover from. >> and don't you think in the scrambling around in the months after there might be interesting information. i told you about that or lanny brewer or head of the division . >> it ising interesting. how will it do anything to
change. >> kristin the congress is entitle to investigate the processes that led to a false letter and aftermath. they are investigating two thingings. what happened that led to the agent's death and what happened in the aftermath. >> we know what happened to the agent's death. it was the program. what they are trying to do is pin it on eric holder. it is not whether the program was good or bad. it was shut down and investigated. >> and all about the false letter. how did that come about. >> let me bring in nicole. you worked in the bush white house and they got in a battle with the house. and the bush white house asserted executive privileges over those documents. how is it difficult? >> three thoughts i have been to the movie and i know how it ends and the documents were turned over. >> three things happened when
the white house excerted executive prive ledge. it was a story follow would carefully and closely on the ride. it was not followed as closely as it was by the media outlets and now it has. the white house hases their self to for that. they made voters deeply suspicious of the white house and justice department . no one in obama's cabinet with a worse relationship with congress than holder. and third, when the white house was called to turn over the documents, there was not the life of an american federal agent that was lostt. this is so much more serious and the stakes are dire and grave. >> jeff, how does the romney campaign feel about the confrontation. there is talk whether thiare
entitled. this plays in the narrative that republicans are obstructionist and involved in washington gotcha games. and i have to say, i haven't heard much from boston headquarters and romney campaign. >> this is one of those things that they are fine witha letting it play out. if it is a dominating issues with the republicans on the hill and democrats in the white house and overtook the economy that would be a problem. that is not likely to happen. and this is about the economy. and how house republicans and house speaker boehner skieds to handle this will be interesting. if they have a vote, they will schedule that vote on thursday. for example. there is a big health care decision by the supreme court they don't want a lot of attention on it. and at this point they are fine with let play out on its own. there is no urgency for him to
weigh in at this moment. bret, there is a political risk. there is change washington presidency involved in what could be seen as covering up and certainly refusing to turn over documents house republicans run the risk of appearing to overreach. >> republican brand name is in terrible shape. people are not sympathetic to republican in congress. it is an interesting and certainly not to the republicans. any time they do anything big or bold they run the difference. >> and they fought like cornered rats and increase in the debt ceiling and came out looking terrible for trying to do what i think. it is kind of like the things they promised to do. and so they are at that risk.
>> kirsten. not talking about the economy and romney campaigns are unhappy and risk of over reach and feeds in the story line that congress and trying to get the other party. put yourself in the hands of the obama white house and they are happy to have it happening and not focused on the economy and house republicans. >> yes. they are very happy to change the subject. you answers that quickly. we'll have the group pick up with the decision and on our website at foxnewssunday.com. make sure to follow us on twitter. up next. we hear fru. - from you. [ male announcer ] how can power consumption in china,
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